lelchainpullz wrote:
It's feasible to pick a map pool such that only these players are even capable of passing the map.
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You saying "Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament." implied that Taiwan (or USA) would have different standing if OWC used Score v1, I just replied to it saying that Austria would still win with Score v1, if I was wrong in my understanding then I don't understand why you'd say anything about Score v2 in the first place.Xayne wrote:
Are you a psychic and knew Taiwan was going to be grouped with a team like Austria two months ago?
We are aiming to have a minimum $5,000 cash prize pool for this world cup. We will be announcing a way you can help raise funds for the prize pool shortly, so stay tuned!That's some long shortly...
Plz tell me where to send my moneyz.
profile banners..zyvik wrote:
We are aiming to have a minimum $5,000 cash prize pool for this world cup. We will be announcing a way you can help raise funds for the prize pool shortly, so stay tuned!That's some long shortly...
Plz tell me where to send my moneyz.
it's been out since groups, they're $2.50USD i believe in osu store
Ty, I had no idea that such thing exsists... Well, I belive its time to update wiki thena loli wrote:
profile banners..
it's been out since groups, they're $2.50USD i believe in osu store
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
Makan1 wrote:
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
I recall Blue Zenith in the 2014 finals, not sure about 2013 though.
Yeah they picked Freedom Dive as a warmup and cptnXn, Cookeasy were the only one who could actually play it xD, not too sure about blue zenith though, I think the other warmup was a different mapMakan1 wrote:
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
didn't fir3ko/firmament use HR? Holy crap.Makan1 wrote:
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
Placing bets on Poland.... But have I support team USA on my profile..... USA!
Rucker and Uan are brothers :O
Never knew that.
Never knew that.
Ztrot : What have we done!?
and I was like falling off the chair just from laughing at the commentators.
and I was like falling off the chair just from laughing at the commentators.
spread the love boys
;w;deadbeat wrote:
spread the love boys
I'M SO SORRY ;W;
deadbeat wrote:
What I've learnt from the first few matches.
- Rucker and Uan are brothers
- Commentator's curse is no longer a myth
- #blamejuan
- the osu community is still inflicted with the dadada and TATOE memes
- Rucker and Uan are brothers
- Commentator's curse is no longer a myth
- #blamejuan
- the osu community is still inflicted with the dadada and TATOE memes
yay 
HONG KONG DID IT. THEY FINALLY BEAT GERMANY!!!
Well, that UK warmup escalated qu-O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U- JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A- E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA
woo! Now China next upAthrun wrote:
HONG KONG DID IT. THEY FINALLY BEAT GERMANY!!!
can't wait for Norway vs Poland
Poland the only team which haven't lost a single map so far?
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wiki is updated o/
haha loldeadbeat wrote:
spread the love boys
thank you loctav <3Loctav wrote:
wiki is updated o/
nvm, the layout of the brackets on the wiki confused me for a bit
Hong Kong is vsing against China.
Hong Kong attempting to have independence against china?!?!
Hong Kong attempting to have independence against china?!?!
Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
deadbeat wrote:
spread the love boys
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After said survey among all participants, we will push hidden v2 to multiplayer again. Far over 90% agreed with going there. (I think it's on CE already)CXu wrote:
Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
Loctav wrote:
After said survey among all participants, we will push hidden v2 to multiplayer again. Far over 90% agreed with going there. (I think it's on CE already)CXu wrote:
Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
Thank god
I loved the mappool showcase with Chippy and ToGlette xD
I'm very excited for Poland vs Austria with the mappool being somewhat hard now.
I'm very excited for Poland vs Austria with the mappool being somewhat hard now.
rippy chippy
We have already got independence in this game.Athrun wrote:
Hong Kong is vsing against China.
Hong Kong attempting to have independence against china?!?!
RIP Hong Kong.
Four FCs in Hong Kong against two FCs in China at Dream Walker.
#Neverforget
Four FCs in Hong Kong against two FCs in China at Dream Walker.
#Neverforget
Azer vs Hvick United
So close
Canada wins, Never forget Taiwan
So close
Canada wins, Never forget Taiwan
Canada intentionally took that to 9 maps because a win by any method other than dank memes would not be a win at all. #calculated
I think you should update the "home" and the scheme of the OWC after each match. It would be better 
I don't think so, people(I) may want to watch the matches on the VoD without spoiling themselves by looking at the wiki.blaze-x wrote:
I think you should update the "home" and the scheme of the OWC after each match. It would be better
That's also why I'd like people in this thread to put results into spoilerboxes cause I checked this thread to see if Loctav already updated the wiki(like he announced last time) and if I could open it up without danger and LOOK AT THAT SPOILERS.
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wiki updated. Brackets will be updated whenever cache clears (might take a day or two)
I am so incredibly proud of Team Canada this year
Looking at the Bracket image and there is already 1 mistake it should be loser of bracket L is not Austria but South Korea. Please fix this
Guess what needs to be fixed 
http://puu.sh/lv2Bt/70ec2fc8c8.jpg
Anyway, it sucks we had only one tiebreaker this round
Semi-finals tiebreaker isnt as awesome as united
http://puu.sh/lv2Bt/70ec2fc8c8.jpg
Damn ninjasKor3ry3-Kun wrote:
Looking at the Bracket image and there is already 1 mistake it should be loser of bracket L is not Austria but South Korea. Please fix this
Anyway, it sucks we had only one tiebreaker this round
Semi-finals tiebreaker isnt as awesome as united Loctav, just a heads up that the bracket displays South Korea in the loser's bracket in Austria's place.
RIGGED
RIGGEDBlue Dragon wrote:
RIGGED
Taiwan get lose 2 times in a row with 2 TB in a row.
Poor Taiwan.
Poland such a monster
Poor Taiwan.
Poland such a monster
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FIXEDKor3ry3-Kun wrote:
RIGGEDBlue Dragon wrote:
RIGGED
Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38Hiicantpk wrote:
Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
thanks for supporting nz guydeadbeat wrote:
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
Thanksdeadbeat wrote:
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38Hiicantpk wrote:
Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
pls fix landscape
Poland hype train :c
Playing at 10 am must have been hard for them :/
Wp China
Playing at 10 am must have been hard for them :/
Wp China
6-2 curse is real
Welcome to Skystar World Cup 2015
this mappool sucks dick
chill bro u madfartownik wrote:
this mappool sucks dick
anyone have the new mappool?
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/20593606
(not all are the highest respective diffs star-rating wise on the mapset btw, FREEDOM DiVE is [Another] and Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou is [AngelHoney's Extra] if I recalled correctly)
EDIT : And Asymmetry as well (being [Asphewin's Expert])
(not all are the highest respective diffs star-rating wise on the mapset btw, FREEDOM DiVE is [Another] and Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou is [AngelHoney's Extra] if I recalled correctly)
EDIT : And Asymmetry as well (being [Asphewin's Expert])
Because he doesn't need to say anything more to get his points acrossfartownik wrote:
this mappool sucks dick
if it is for other rounds it would be okay
but for the finals? ouch
messiah dt <3
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Wiki has been updated!
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.Zak wrote:
Such constructive criticism
Yeh. I still remember Histy's tournament finals. That wasn't very fun to watch.fartownik wrote:
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.Zak wrote:
Such constructive criticism
This mappool looks so cancerous.
Grats to Hong Kong! First time they have made it to the finals!
Grats to Hong Kong! First time they have made it to the finals!
there are too many wildcard maps
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Define "wildcard"
First of all, i'm pretty certain i used the wrong word to describe this. Secondly, I want to make it clear that in no way am i saying the map pool is good or badLoctav wrote:
Define "wildcard"
before i start, there are about 2-3 maps in the pool I haven't played. Basically (how i see it) a lot of the maps are either jumps, streams, or require alternating, and hardly a combination of those.
rubik's cube, once again, yuyu metal, require heavy alternating skills. The rohi map also requires decent alternating on the 1/3s. A team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.
perthed again is basically a low bpm version of cheatreal. Perthed again, king for a day, messiah, muteki no soldier consists of nearly only 1/2 jumps. Again, a team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.
this year there are only a handful of maps that require well balanced skill sets, but that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking
the pool last year was fun, because a lot of the maps required the player to be skilled in many aspects of the game; stamina, speed, accuracy, aim etc. A lot of the maps this year require excelling in only one aspect, which is considered a bore to many players
once again:
that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking
I think going forward I like the idea of maps with more specific focuses at least in the later rounds of OWC. I think it's a tricky thing to pull off in group stage for example because each team, for better or worse, is only able to form a team consisting of members of a single country. Some countries have enough players to qualify for competing in OWC but might struggle to even come up with 4 players consistent enough to do well. Thus, picking less generalized maps for the map pool hurts these small countries the most because whatever their 4 players are able to play is all they are able to play.
On the other hand, we see countries like the United States and Poland who have very deep rosters this year such that they have more specialized players to rotate in depending on what maps are picked/banned. I think on top of this, it encourages players who want to compete in OWC in the future to consider investing a lot of time into specializing in some of the less popular skills that are not as well rewarded by the PPv2 system. Instead of thoughts like "I'll never be able to play in the OWC because I'll never be as good at everything as players W X Y Z" it fosters thoughts such as "I may not ever be able to surpass player X in general, but if I can at least prove my self in niche skill A then I can actually be of use for my country."
So I think finding the balance in which stage of the OWC to start shifting to a more skill specific map pool is something that should continue to be evaluated as the player base improves and grows.
On the other hand, we see countries like the United States and Poland who have very deep rosters this year such that they have more specialized players to rotate in depending on what maps are picked/banned. I think on top of this, it encourages players who want to compete in OWC in the future to consider investing a lot of time into specializing in some of the less popular skills that are not as well rewarded by the PPv2 system. Instead of thoughts like "I'll never be able to play in the OWC because I'll never be as good at everything as players W X Y Z" it fosters thoughts such as "I may not ever be able to surpass player X in general, but if I can at least prove my self in niche skill A then I can actually be of use for my country."
So I think finding the balance in which stage of the OWC to start shifting to a more skill specific map pool is something that should continue to be evaluated as the player base improves and grows.
Also encouraging player switches is nice. There's a reason a team is 8 players and not 4. Sucks to be the 4 that never plays.
Thought for improving map pool showcase for next year:
Either have one of the map selectors commentating why they chose each map and possibly other maps that were considered in it's place or have them do a writeup on this and send it to the commentators along with the map pool itself so that the commentators can point out subtle nuances and such.
It's nice having players like Doomsday and Cptnxn around during the showcase due to their potential experience playing any of the given maps in the past but since the pool is unknown to the commentators until just before the showcase (for good reason) I imagine it's probably hard even for them to think on their toes.
I feel like the map selectors are probably the most capable of highlighting details on each map and the pool in general since they have the ability to prepare such information. It could also clear up possible misunderstandings around a given map pool by providing insight into why certain maps were chosen.
Either have one of the map selectors commentating why they chose each map and possibly other maps that were considered in it's place or have them do a writeup on this and send it to the commentators along with the map pool itself so that the commentators can point out subtle nuances and such.
It's nice having players like Doomsday and Cptnxn around during the showcase due to their potential experience playing any of the given maps in the past but since the pool is unknown to the commentators until just before the showcase (for good reason) I imagine it's probably hard even for them to think on their toes.
I feel like the map selectors are probably the most capable of highlighting details on each map and the pool in general since they have the ability to prepare such information. It could also clear up possible misunderstandings around a given map pool by providing insight into why certain maps were chosen.
Be like Team Canada, switch every map LOLCXu wrote:
Also encouraging player switches is nice. There's a reason a team is 8 players and not 4. Sucks to be the 4 that never plays.
Welp. USA vs China (again) This is it Boys place your bets and who going to win the Final Match
All my money for China.
FREEEEEEDOM!
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Wiki is updated
I wonder why there is always at least a player who fails on PUPA
I know, i'm a stupid retarded mapper ;w;
I know, i'm a stupid retarded mapper ;w;
The fact that the "S" is white was unfortunate, i read "U A Take my Energy" :vPituophis wrote:
WHAT?!
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ USA TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Anyway, good luck USA, you will need it /o/. (Hype!)
pupa is cool but the map a shit on hrCherry Blossom wrote:
I wonder why there is always at least a player who fails on PUPA
I know, i'm a stupid retarded mapper ;w;
USA will win.
Optimal schedule for me, the match starts at 4:30 AM in my timezone, but who needs sleep anyway :^)