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The Emperor
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Kor3ry3-Kun

Blue Dragon wrote:

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Ddraigon
Taiwan get lose 2 times in a row with 2 TB in a row.

Poor Taiwan.


Poland such a monster
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Loctav

Kor3ry3-Kun wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

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Xayne

Loctav wrote:

Kor3ry3-Kun wrote:

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Minhtam

Xayne wrote:

Loctav wrote:

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Senko-san
Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
deadbeat

Hiicantpk wrote:

Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
buny

deadbeat wrote:

http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
thanks for supporting nz guy
Senko-san

deadbeat wrote:

Hiicantpk wrote:

Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
Thanks :D
buny


pls fix landscape
deadbeat
Xayne
I can feel the Freedom intensifying...
Makan1
congratz china! this is pt.1 done
Rajten
Poland hype train :c
Playing at 10 am must have been hard for them :/

Wp China
Kor3ry3-Kun
6-2 curse is real
-N a n a k o-
Welcome to Skystar World Cup 2015
fartownik
this mappool sucks dick
Zak
Such constructive criticism
HaibokuShounen

fartownik wrote:

this mappool sucks dick
chill bro u mad
buny
anyone have the new mappool?
Niva
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/20593606

(not all are the highest respective diffs star-rating wise on the mapset btw, FREEDOM DiVE is [Another] and Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou is [AngelHoney's Extra] if I recalled correctly)

EDIT : And Asymmetry as well (being [Asphewin's Expert])
Karuta-_old_1

fartownik wrote:

this mappool sucks dick
Because he doesn't need to say anything more to get his points across
if it is for other rounds it would be okay

but for the finals? ouch
buny
messiah dt <3
Topic Starter
Loctav
Wiki has been updated!
fartownik

Zak wrote:

Such constructive criticism
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.
Reyvateil

fartownik wrote:

Zak wrote:

Such constructive criticism
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.
Yeh. I still remember Histy's tournament finals. That wasn't very fun to watch.
Athrun
This mappool looks so cancerous.

Grats to Hong Kong! First time they have made it to the finals!
buny
there are too many wildcard maps
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Loctav
Define "wildcard"
buny

Loctav wrote:

Define "wildcard"
First of all, i'm pretty certain i used the wrong word to describe this. Secondly, I want to make it clear that in no way am i saying the map pool is good or bad

before i start, there are about 2-3 maps in the pool I haven't played. Basically (how i see it) a lot of the maps are either jumps, streams, or require alternating, and hardly a combination of those.

rubik's cube, once again, yuyu metal, require heavy alternating skills. The rohi map also requires decent alternating on the 1/3s. A team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.

perthed again is basically a low bpm version of cheatreal. Perthed again, king for a day, messiah, muteki no soldier consists of nearly only 1/2 jumps. Again, a team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.

this year there are only a handful of maps that require well balanced skill sets, but that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking








the pool last year was fun, because a lot of the maps required the player to be skilled in many aspects of the game; stamina, speed, accuracy, aim etc. A lot of the maps this year require excelling in only one aspect, which is considered a bore to many players

once again:

that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking
chainpullz
I think going forward I like the idea of maps with more specific focuses at least in the later rounds of OWC. I think it's a tricky thing to pull off in group stage for example because each team, for better or worse, is only able to form a team consisting of members of a single country. Some countries have enough players to qualify for competing in OWC but might struggle to even come up with 4 players consistent enough to do well. Thus, picking less generalized maps for the map pool hurts these small countries the most because whatever their 4 players are able to play is all they are able to play.

On the other hand, we see countries like the United States and Poland who have very deep rosters this year such that they have more specialized players to rotate in depending on what maps are picked/banned. I think on top of this, it encourages players who want to compete in OWC in the future to consider investing a lot of time into specializing in some of the less popular skills that are not as well rewarded by the PPv2 system. Instead of thoughts like "I'll never be able to play in the OWC because I'll never be as good at everything as players W X Y Z" it fosters thoughts such as "I may not ever be able to surpass player X in general, but if I can at least prove my self in niche skill A then I can actually be of use for my country."

So I think finding the balance in which stage of the OWC to start shifting to a more skill specific map pool is something that should continue to be evaluated as the player base improves and grows.
CXu
Also encouraging player switches is nice. There's a reason a team is 8 players and not 4. Sucks to be the 4 that never plays.
chainpullz
Thought for improving map pool showcase for next year:

Either have one of the map selectors commentating why they chose each map and possibly other maps that were considered in it's place or have them do a writeup on this and send it to the commentators along with the map pool itself so that the commentators can point out subtle nuances and such.

It's nice having players like Doomsday and Cptnxn around during the showcase due to their potential experience playing any of the given maps in the past but since the pool is unknown to the commentators until just before the showcase (for good reason) I imagine it's probably hard even for them to think on their toes.

I feel like the map selectors are probably the most capable of highlighting details on each map and the pool in general since they have the ability to prepare such information. It could also clear up possible misunderstandings around a given map pool by providing insight into why certain maps were chosen.
YodaSnipe

CXu wrote:

Also encouraging player switches is nice. There's a reason a team is 8 players and not 4. Sucks to be the 4 that never plays.
Be like Team Canada, switch every map LOL
Kor3ry3-Kun
Welp. USA vs China (again) This is it Boys place your bets and who going to win the Final Match
Cherry Yume
All my money for China.
Xayne
USA will have Toy for the match against China this time.
chainpullz
FREEEEEEDOM!
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