I'm having troubles trying to find info about owc matches, maybe that should be added onto the wiki?
I like seeing a lot of these two particularly but it's also extremely time consuming to dig through all the participants and all the maps and assemble a proper set of notes on them for use in commentating. To aid in this perhaps next year we could have a place where community members could contribute information on specific players (perhaps like a thread per team) and a place for discussion of each map (or pool). That way commentators would be able to probe the thoughts and experiences of the community without having to actually ask around. For each lesser known player there are probably people who they are friends with that could provide a lot of information.Railey2 wrote:
SPOILERB) Information about the players.
There are at least 8 players present per game, so theres lots of information the commentators could draw out from that.Theres lots of things to be said, in fact there are so many things to be said that someone who did all the research would probably not run out throughout a 1 hour game.
- Did some of the players compete in prior OWC's?
- Are they well-known mappers, maybe? If yes, what are some of their most famous maps?
- Were they in the top10 at some point?
- Is there anything notable about their top-plays? Do they have a top-performance on the map that is currently played, maybe?
- When did they join osu?
- Are they mods themselves, or BAT's or maybe even QAT's?
- What are their strong points, are they hidden or hardrock players, or nomod or DT, or allrounders? What are their weaknesses?
The commentators already mention many things, but there still is a lot more to say about the people that participate - or about the people that don't participate.
C) Information about the maps.
Doomsday did a hood job at giving a quick analysis of the map-pool for the upcoming round. Theres lots of things to be said about maps, and lots of it already gets said, but for the sake of completeness I'll make another list here.Lots of this is done already, and that is one of the reasons why I enjoyed the commentary so much this time around.
- How old are the maps? Are they ahead of their time?
- Who mapped them? Is the mapper known for other, famous maps?
- What about the song? Do we have famous maps that include songs of the same artist? What genre is the song? Is it well known?
- How popular is the map?
- Who holds the top-score on the map? Anything notable about it? Any other famous plays on that map?
- With what mod-combinations is the map popular?
- If it is part of a map-set, is there something to say about the other difficulties?
- Is the map technical, does it have scary jumps or particularly hard parts that many people choke on?
Agreed. As I said, commentating is a research-heavy task, and as such it is definitely time consuming. So it would be best to split up the wordload, at best between people that already have lots of knowledge. Crowdsourcing is an interesting idea, but I wonder how that would look like in practice.chainpullz wrote:
I like seeing a lot of these two particularly but it's also extremely time consuming to dig through all the participants and all the maps and assemble a proper set of notes on them for use in commentating. To aid in this perhaps next year we could have a place where community members could contribute information on specific players (perhaps like a thread per team) and a place for discussion of each map (or pool). That way commentators would be able to probe the thoughts and experiences of the community without having to actually ask around. For each lesser known player there are probably people who they are friends with that could provide a lot of information.Railey2 wrote:
SPOILERB) Information about the players.
There are at least 8 players present per game, so theres lots of information the commentators could draw out from that.Theres lots of things to be said, in fact there are so many things to be said that someone who did all the research would probably not run out throughout a 1 hour game.
- Did some of the players compete in prior OWC's?
- Are they well-known mappers, maybe? If yes, what are some of their most famous maps?
- Were they in the top10 at some point?
- Is there anything notable about their top-plays? Do they have a top-performance on the map that is currently played, maybe?
- When did they join osu?
- Are they mods themselves, or BAT's or maybe even QAT's?
- What are their strong points, are they hidden or hardrock players, or nomod or DT, or allrounders? What are their weaknesses?
The commentators already mention many things, but there still is a lot more to say about the people that participate - or about the people that don't participate.
C) Information about the maps.
Doomsday did a good job at giving a quick analysis of the map-pool for the upcoming round. Theres lots of things to be said about maps, and lots of it already gets said, but for the sake of completeness I'll make another list here.Lots of this is done already, and that is one of the reasons why I enjoyed the commentary so much this time around.
- How old are the maps? Are they ahead of their time?
- Who mapped them? Is the mapper known for other, famous maps?
- What about the song? Do we have famous maps that include songs of the same artist? What genre is the song? Is it well known?
- How popular is the map?
- Who holds the top-score on the map? Anything notable about it? Any other famous plays on that map?
- With what mod-combinations is the map popular?
- If it is part of a map-set, is there something to say about the other difficulties?
- Is the map technical, does it have scary jumps or particularly hard parts that many people choke on?
I said something about this on one of the group info videos - it's hard to be hyped up about matches involving players you don't know or a map pool you are unfamiliar with. It might just be me, but I care more about the individuals playing than the specific country/team they are playing for.
Really? I checked last year's bracket and it wasn't like #1 of Group A,B,C,D will be in the same area though.Loctav wrote:
Above unofficial bracket is properly constructed.
Thank you Railey for typing it out in such a detailed manner. I am sure if the commentators take these points seriously, it will improve the commentating a lot.Railey2 wrote:
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Should've been 7 isn't it? 4-1 Italy, 4-2 Lithuania and 2-4 lost to FranceKaruta- wrote:
Thailand lives! Thank you Singapore!
by the way, Hong Kong having one lost match with only 3 game losses?
Seems like the statistic overview was wrong, its just as kuur0 saidKaruta- wrote:
Thailand lives! Thank you Singapore!
by the way, Hong Kong having one lost match with only 3 game losses?
dear me, I wouldn't have noticed that cause Canada played so well against England in owc 2013 so I would have thought that they have been able to make itSi1entKiTTeh wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong. But isn't this the first time Canada has made it to the round of 16
Canada for the past few years seemed to always have a really tough group apparently... So Canada hypee hope they can make it far this year.Karuta- wrote:
dear me, I wouldn't have noticed that cause Canada played so well against England in owc 2013 so I would have thought that they have been able to make itSi1entKiTTeh wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong. But isn't this the first time Canada has made it to the round of 16
^Bere wrote:
BRASIL HYPE
owc #1 bring me feels-Ryuujii- wrote:
^Bere wrote:
BRASIL HYPE
people seem to forget Brazil has always performed well. Even since OWC #1
Got Poland this year : DCXu wrote:
Remember when Norway made it out of groups.
And met Korea.
And it was single elimination.
it was sad.
Not like Taiwan would beat Austria with Score v1... They lost the maps against 3/4 FCs, mangekyou would probably be close (as it was now) but other than that Austria would still win, they are just top tier team in disguise.Xayne wrote:
If you would have told me that USA vs. Taiwan would have been a first round matchup in the knockout stage two months ago, I would have slapped you for stupidity. Crazy how things change. Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament.
^Jetzu wrote:
Not like Taiwan would beat Austria with Score v1... They lost the maps against 3/4 FCs, mangekyou would probably be close (as it was now) but other than that Austria would still win, they are just top tier team in disguise.Xayne wrote:
If you would have told me that USA vs. Taiwan would have been a first round matchup in the knockout stage two months ago, I would have slapped you for stupidity. Crazy how things change. Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament.
Are you a psychic and knew Taiwan was going to be grouped with a team like Austria two months ago?Jetzu wrote:
Not like Taiwan would beat Austria with Score v1... They lost the maps against 3/4 FCs, mangekyou would probably be close (as it was now) but other than that Austria would still win, they are just top tier team in disguise.Xayne wrote:
If you would have told me that USA vs. Taiwan would have been a first round matchup in the knockout stage two months ago, I would have slapped you for stupidity. Crazy how things change. Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament.
It depends a lot on the map pool. Players like Hvick/WWW/Rafis/Axarious/Elysion/etc are capable of playing much much more difficult maps than most of the lower ranking players. It's feasible to pick a map pool such that only these players are even capable of passing the map. I expect lower ranked players to get weeded out as the map pool gets progressively more difficult but also expect extremely under-ranked players like omgforz to stay strong.kuur0 wrote:
Rank doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament/multiplayer setting in the first place lol... Other than seedings maybe.
edit: for now
lelchainpullz wrote:
It's feasible to pick a map pool such that only these players are even capable of passing the map.
You saying "Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament." implied that Taiwan (or USA) would have different standing if OWC used Score v1, I just replied to it saying that Austria would still win with Score v1, if I was wrong in my understanding then I don't understand why you'd say anything about Score v2 in the first place.Xayne wrote:
Are you a psychic and knew Taiwan was going to be grouped with a team like Austria two months ago?
We are aiming to have a minimum $5,000 cash prize pool for this world cup. We will be announcing a way you can help raise funds for the prize pool shortly, so stay tuned!That's some long shortly...
profile banners..zyvik wrote:
We are aiming to have a minimum $5,000 cash prize pool for this world cup. We will be announcing a way you can help raise funds for the prize pool shortly, so stay tuned!That's some long shortly...
Plz tell me where to send my moneyz.
Ty, I had no idea that such thing exsists... Well, I belive its time to update wiki thena loli wrote:
profile banners..
it's been out since groups, they're $2.50USD i believe in osu store
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
Makan1 wrote:
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
Yeah they picked Freedom Dive as a warmup and cptnXn, Cookeasy were the only one who could actually play it xD, not too sure about blue zenith though, I think the other warmup was a different mapMakan1 wrote:
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
didn't fir3ko/firmament use HR? Holy crap.Makan1 wrote:
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?Athrun wrote:
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....
If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
;w;deadbeat wrote:
spread the love boys
deadbeat wrote:
woo! Now China next upAthrun wrote:
HONG KONG DID IT. THEY FINALLY BEAT GERMANY!!!
haha loldeadbeat wrote:
spread the love boys
thank you loctav <3Loctav wrote:
wiki is updated o/
deadbeat wrote:
spread the love boys
After said survey among all participants, we will push hidden v2 to multiplayer again. Far over 90% agreed with going there. (I think it's on CE already)CXu wrote:
Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
Loctav wrote:
After said survey among all participants, we will push hidden v2 to multiplayer again. Far over 90% agreed with going there. (I think it's on CE already)CXu wrote:
Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
We have already got independence in this game.Athrun wrote:
Hong Kong is vsing against China.
Hong Kong attempting to have independence against china?!?!
I don't think so, people(I) may want to watch the matches on the VoD without spoiling themselves by looking at the wiki.blaze-x wrote:
I think you should update the "home" and the scheme of the OWC after each match. It would be better
Damn ninjasKor3ry3-Kun wrote:
Looking at the Bracket image and there is already 1 mistake it should be loser of bracket L is not Austria but South Korea. Please fix this
RIGGEDBlue Dragon wrote:
RIGGED
FIXEDKor3ry3-Kun wrote:
RIGGEDBlue Dragon wrote:
RIGGED
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38Hiicantpk wrote:
Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
thanks for supporting nz guydeadbeat wrote:
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
Thanksdeadbeat wrote:
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38Hiicantpk wrote:
Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?