^
As I said a few days ago in chat, hyt's Hardware Store play is clearly cheated.
As I said a few days ago in chat, hyt's Hardware Store play is clearly cheated.
Man,you are the first one point out what i hope to say but be afraid to say……LoweH wrote:
Hey i'm here for notify a hacker, he is hyt103
btw, here the foundations :
~ All "new pro records" are from May's end and July (this is so obvious o_O)
~ You can see in much maps, from spin or from stream precision (velocity precision and aim precision)
~ I think is possible use the hack "half time" in normal mode (You can see one_love for example),
~ And c'mon guys all know, he was noob and now can SS shounen A and get a S with 3 100s in Nuclear Fusion Dojo ... (so but so obvious ..), you can see all old records, gameplay is "TOTALLY DIFFERENT"
Replay foundations :
~ you can see in this song : Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store (very, very obvious errors here)
[attachment=0:b7538]hyt103 - Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store [Impossible] (2010-05-28) Osu.osr[/attachment:b7538]
1 • the precision with he does the streams is impressive, i think is so hard with a mouse q:
2 • 00:25:674 (4) ^
3 • 00:59:157 (1) - you can see here, before the spin .. is so LOL
4 • 00:48:709 (1) - same here ^
5 • 00:55:714 (4) / 00:55:833 (5) - this mouse stack is so strangelike a half time
6 • 01:10:793 (1) - Ok is totally impossible with mouse, (but i think too with tablet) do a stream like this .. (movement is obv .. :])
7 • 01:33:591 (1) - 01:33:828 (2) - I think is so hard do that sliders so precise like it
8 • 01:41:902 (1) - Why he stopped the cursor before all streams ? (:
9 • 01:43:802 (1) - ^
10 • 01:50:807 (4) / 01:50:926 (5) - 100 in same in the same part (5)
11 • 02:39:489 (8) / 02:39:608 (9) - Oh so strange mouse stack like a half time :3
12 • 02:51:244 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - What about this spins (?)
This is only a part, and only a map, he is obv, he is a hacker ..
"OTHER NEW PRO RECORD, LITTLE LIST"SPOILER~ KOTOKO - Wing my Way
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/46827
Position #02
~ IOSYS - Kanbu de Todomatte Sugu Tokeru ~ Kyouki no Udongein
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16266
Position #05
Other : Spam stream too precise in rhythm in "strange stream part", he got it in 3 tries
~ IOSYS - Club Ibuki in Break All
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/35611
Position #06
~ IOSYS - Fascination Marisa
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/35611
Position #03
~ Ruru Ichinose - Hinarin's Relation of Misfortune
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/46486
Position #04
~ IOSYS - Captain Murasa's Ass Anchor
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13422
Position #02
~ Hanataba - Night of Knights
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5445
Position #10
~ REDALiCE - Taboo Tears You Up
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28025
Position #03
~ Rhapsody - Emerald Sword (So LOL)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/25580
Position #02
Other : srsly, wtf
~ Hommarju feat. Latte - masterpiece
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/47152
Position #04
~ Johannes Brahms - Impromptus No.18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13991
Position #06
~ Seiryu - Time to Air
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24557
Position #01
~ Naoki & Tatsh - Red Zone
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5731
Position #07
~ IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147
Position #12
~ Green Day - American Idiot
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57696
Position #04
~ IOSYS - Kyuukyoku Yakiniku Restaurant! Orin no Jigokutei!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31620
Position #03
~ Suzaku VS Genbu - Himiko
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/47462
Position #08
~ Jun Wakita - Shounen A
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36211
Position #02 (ss is impossible in this map..)
~ IOSYS - Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8442
Position #03
~ ZUN - Deaf to all but the Song (So but SOOO lol)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43589
Position #04
~ Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/2042
Position #05
~ IOSYS - Power of Dream
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34162
Position #14
Ok, this enough? me h1ko and osuplayer think he is a cheater, and you can see we are "expert player of the game" we rarely go wrong about this ...
STILL DON'T BELIEVE? Ask a bat to do the command " !multi hyt103 "
he have over 40 accounts ... only this is enough for a ban i think (:(:(:(:(:
nothing to add, i can only say : I (i think too you) DON'T WANT A HACKER 1st IN OSU
Blue Dragon wrote:
I saw Hardware Store and found nothing wrong, but Emerald Sword was just ridiculous. He goes to the beat on the EXACT moment that it "explodes".
LoweH wrote:
HE MUST BE BANNED, don't do favours because he is 1# ...
Glasslake wrote:
SSing SHOUNEN A LOL, even taNa couldn't SS it.
Besides that, I've only watched his Emerald Sword replay, the weird thing I found was how he spins; starts slowly and gets really fast towards the middle until the end.
If you see any replays that are fishy, post them here. Even though it's gonna take months for an admin to check. (Seriously that lightROCK and ravand guy still aren't banned, how many more replays do you admins need to realize that their spins aren't humanly possible?)Suck wrote:
If so, then ban him, but I wonder, how many cheaters like him, high rank, pro replays, and their scores dont look right.
I think there are so many ss scores on hard maps dont look right, so many hidden flanshlight scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. so many hard rock double time scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. If #1 is cheating, then we must ban him, but how about other cheaters just becoz they arent #1, they arent high rank players(well, they may high rank players) or they dont play alot, we dont need do anything to them? Let them still playing in osu, let them replays still watching by other ppl, let them still show their scores to you and tell you, " you are so noob!" ?
Well, I used to tell bats and other ppl, someone is cheating, but seems no one really care that much like me. I dont know what I can do except tell other ppl "I think this guy is cheating" and, most time I get answer like, " You think, but you cant prove it". Yes, If I didnt see the cheater play by myself, I can never prove anything. However, I dont like to see osu become a game full of cheaters and they are the top players in this game, just becoz we think this guy is cheating but we cant prove he is cheating.
Except I was actually watching taNa when he was trying to SS Shounen A. I know that he doesn't have to SS every hard map here, I only used him as an example.Suck wrote:
Glasslake wrote:
SSing SHOUNEN A LOL, even taNa couldn't SS it.
Besides that, I've only watched his Emerald Sword replay, the weird thing I found was how he spins; starts slowly and gets really fast towards the middle until the end.
Just saying, there are alot of maps TaNa cant ss but other ppl can do, or TaNa cant get a nice acc but other ppl can do.
Glasslake wrote:
If you see any replays that are fishy, post them here. Even though it's gonna take months for an admin to check. (Seriously that lightROCK and ravand guy still aren't banned, how many more replays do you admins need to realize that their spins aren't humanly possible?)Suck wrote:
If so, then ban him, but I wonder, how many cheaters like him, high rank, pro replays, and their scores dont look right.
I think there are so many ss scores on hard maps dont look right, so many hidden flanshlight scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. so many hard rock double time scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. If #1 is cheating, then we must ban him, but how about other cheaters just becoz they arent #1, they arent high rank players(well, they may high rank players) or they dont play alot, we dont need do anything to them? Let them still playing in osu, let them replays still watching by other ppl, let them still show their scores to you and tell you, " you are so noob!" ?
Well, I used to tell bats and other ppl, someone is cheating, but seems no one really care that much like me. I dont know what I can do except tell other ppl "I think this guy is cheating" and, most time I get answer like, " You think, but you cant prove it". Yes, If I didnt see the cheater play by myself, I can never prove anything. However, I dont like to see osu become a game full of cheaters and they are the top players in this game, just becoz we think this guy is cheating but we cant prove he is cheating.
And what are you saying there's no proof, did you even read LoweH's post?
Then what kind of proof can they provide? There's no solid proof other than the fact that he suddenly got all those scores in only a month and the fact that the mouse movement is clearly weird. Other than that, I don't think there's anymore proof.Suck wrote:
Man, the proof means you think the replay dont looks right, that also means there will be ppl think it looks right. I got that reply from bat and peppy last year. Then I just give up to point out the ppl "I think are cheating". Well, yes, he cheats, but I doubt if ppl can get him banned.
IOSYS - Kanbu de Todomatte Sugu Tokeru ~ Kyouki no UdongeinGlasslake wrote:
[*]High scores with low playcount
Me too,then what?ycsnake wrote:
btw hyt103 use a tablet
for what?... to look like a "cool player"?...(more probably he did some trick or cheat)Arusha Shuna wrote:
...
offline much?
And... what? (this fact don't prove that he isn't a cheater)ycsnake wrote:
btw hyt103 use a tablet
hyt103 must prove that he isn't a cheater... or we can consider him a cheater (too much evidences)Neo Adonis wrote:
(P.S.: Note I'm not saying hyt013 is a hacker, unless you really prove it is)
h-hey don't throw me that hard it's just a theory D;mikhe wrote:
for what?... to look like a "cool player"?...(more probably he did some trick or cheat)
DJ KRZY wrote:
I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.
DJ KRZY wrote:
I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.
If you can then do it.Suck wrote:
DJ KRZY wrote:
I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.
That only means he really move his mouse or pen on tablet, I never believe a man can ss Just to Believe Keyboard Breaking in the old days, back to a year before, the video on youtube only prove mouse moving, how can you prove clicking with that kind of video? I can do that too, act like Im clicking. Now I dont believe ppl can ss Night of Knight DJpop's Ex Stage either, with or without hidden. Put a video on youtube? Wtf, video can be cutted and editted too. Oh, well, before all those things, you need a 1000 USD Sony HDR-XR350E to make an awesome video.
Suck wrote:
DJ KRZY wrote:
I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.
That only means he really move his mouse or pen on tablet, I never believe a man can ss Just to Believe Keyboard Breaking in the old days, back to a year before, the video on youtube only prove mouse moving, how can you prove clicking with that kind of video? I can do that too, act like Im clicking. Now I dont believe ppl can ss Night of Knight DJpop's Ex Stage either, with or without hidden. Put a video on youtube? Wtf, video can be cutted and editted too. Oh, well, before all those things, you need a 1000 USD Sony HDR-XR350E to make an awesome video.
Not read all thread yet, just point this out.Glasslake wrote:
Then what kind of proof can they provide? There's no solid proof other than the fact that he suddenly got all those scores in only a month and the fact that the mouse movement is clearly weird. Other than that, I don't think there's anymore proof.Suck wrote:
Man, the proof means you think the replay dont looks right, that also means there will be ppl think it looks right. I got that reply from bat and peppy last year. Then I just give up to point out the ppl "I think are cheating". Well, yes, he cheats, but I doubt if ppl can get him banned.
The only ways to tell that someone is surely cheating is if that person does one of these:
[*]Constant 477 spin
[*]High scores with low playcount (For example : http://osu.ppy.sh/u/1_1_1 , come on, this is SO fucking obvious.)
[*]Cursor teleporting (Unless the player is proven to use a touch screen like Bikko)
Heh, no. How can you be so sure you can HD+FL a map as soon you turn off spun out? That guy spent 1 playcount on each map he #1'd. NO second try at all.deepsea wrote:
You can only say "most" instead of surely for this, spunout, offline, multiaccount(Illegal as well but its different as cheat) can do practice as well.
And then Sprosive made a video.deepsea wrote:
For people accused someone simply because "he is too good"(Not all just them), go to page 34 and 35 see how sprosive is misunderstand.
Now who is this directed to?deepsea wrote:
Also, learn 2 play.
That would be the best way, yes.deepsea wrote:
I will try to contact hyt103 to ask him all about this and ask if he can post a video he play like sprosive ASAP, this is the best way to clear all of this I guess.
Scroll up andGlasslake wrote:
Heh, no. How can you be so sure you can HD+FL a map as soon you turn off spun out? That guy spent 1 playcount on each map he #1'd.
And just for your information, here are the dates where he scores those #1s.SPOILER[attachment=1:77c6d]scores.jpg[/attachment:77c6d]
All 5 in the same day, all 5 in the same hour, you're gonna say that possible with just spun out and offline practice? Ya right.
and he is one of the most. I don't know what are you attempt to say here. Sorry for my bad English.>_>deepsea wrote:
You can only say "most" instead of surely for this bla bla
I reported.Glasslake wrote:
Also, you !multi'd him yourself one time and he appeared to have another account, so why is this guy still there?
[attachment=0:77c6d]multi.jpg[/attachment:77c6d]
Yes.Glasslake wrote:
And then Sprosive made a video.
Scroll up andGlasslake wrote:
Now who the fuck is this directed to?
And if you need a reason, scroll up again.deepsea wrote:
For people accused someone simply because "he is too good"(Not all just them)
deepsea wrote:
I don't think "too good" is a reason for accusing people, yes it is a indication to doubt. But as an indication, you can keep an eye on this player's plays and find more proof, like impossible move or constant 477 spin, THEN ACCUSE A PLAYER BY ALL PROVE INSTEAD OF THE REASON "HE IS GOOD". doubts need no proof but accuses do.
I am doing this, or we can do this as another way like ppy spec, this is the only surely prove.Glasslake wrote:
That would be the best way, yes.
not a mouse as lowh said, that's allkaouji wrote:
Me too,then what?ycsnake wrote:
btw hyt103 use a tablet
He doesn't need to do obvious systematic things like 477 rpm spins for us to realize he is a cheater, there's this thing called common sense which you can rely on to judge if something makes sense. 5 playcounts for 5 #1 scores in the same hour is NOT possible how ever you put it.deepsea wrote:
Scroll up andGlasslake wrote:
Heh, no. How can you be so sure you can HD+FL a map as soon you turn off spun out? That guy spent 1 playcount on each map he #1'd.
And just for your information, here are the dates where he scores those #1s.SPOILER[attachment=1:54351]scores.jpg[/attachment:54351]
All 5 in the same day, all 5 in the same hour, you're gonna say that possible with just spun out and offline practice? Ya right.and he is one of the most. I don't know what are you attempt to say here. Sorry for my bad English.>_>deepsea wrote:
You can only say "most" instead of surely for this bla bla
Thank you.deepsea wrote:
I reported.Glasslake wrote:
Also, you !multi'd him yourself one time and he appeared to have another account, so why is this guy still there?
[attachment=0:54351]multi.jpg[/attachment:54351]
I'm sure we all want this to get cleared up.deepsea wrote:
Also INB4 people flame me for "cheater supporter" or something else, I better say this first. Cheaters suck and gtfo osu. I just want to prove and yes there is an easy way to do(ppy spec). So I think its better to keep on doubt instead of accuse atm.
Play Count: 75,136H1ko wrote:
cheater supporters!!! players dont become the bests in 1 week, i think here is failing common sense but mehhh this is starting to be funny...
It's difference.deepsea wrote:
Play Count: 75,136H1ko wrote:
cheater supporters!!! players dont become the bests in 1 week, i think here is failing common sense but mehhh this is starting to be funny...
If he has 7 or 75 or 751 play counts I will say it really disobey the common sense, also he was good at maintaining combo with sucky acc since long ago.
Yes this can't prove he did or didnt cheat, so lets wait peppy for this.
I find my ability of expression really failed so hope this can be more clear.
if(hyt103 is a cheater == TRUE)
{
He sucks ;
He should be banned ;
He should gtfo osu! ;
}
Else
{
This is another Sprosive case ;
}
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28755H1ko wrote:
hyt103 accuracy was always BADand now SS shounen A so pro in one week totaly a new player wooooo damn!!!
common sense pls i need youuuuuuuu!!!
Who can progress his acc 95%——>99.6%,in one night?Avfunny wrote:
It's difference.
sorry, i need to use chinese.
Sprosive 是从无到有……他能证明自己……
hyt103 不是……
he can't be another Sprosive case
why hyt103 can not progress?
changing in quantity leads to changing in quality.
kaouji wrote:
If you can then do it.Suck wrote:
That only means he really move his mouse or pen on tablet, I never believe a man can ss Just to Believe Keyboard Breaking in the old days, back to a year before, the video on youtube only prove mouse moving, how can you prove clicking with that kind of video? I can do that too, act like Im clicking. Now I dont believe ppl can ss Night of Knight DJpop's Ex Stage either, with or without hidden. Put a video on youtube? Wtf, video can be cutted and editted too. Oh, well, before all those things, you need a 1000 USD Sony HDR-XR350E to make an awesome video.
I will watch every frame and give you a report it's true or not,the acts are synchronous or not
Video can be cutted or editted ,but it will left their marks also.
…………………………Suck wrote:
Buy me a Sony HDR-XR350E honey, I will do it for you
pieguy1372 wrote:
In other words, yes, hyt103 may be cheating, but I don't think there's quite enough proof to reach an entirely solid conclusion yet.
I don't know why but……DJ KRZY wrote:
pieguy1372 wrote:
In other words, yes, hyt103 may be cheating, but I don't think there's quite enough proof to reach an entirely solid conclusion yet.
^
We should probably give this a rest until peppy specs him
You can decline your acc so much... doing only "D" ranks (60%~70% acc)kaouji wrote:
I don't know why but……
He shuts down his ava and his personal data.
decline his acc to 93.1733%……
Is it an answer?
that whyGladi wrote:
'Ranked Score: 16,666,666,666 (#2)'
Derp.
^Really, from that you can only see he got it within an hour. Sure there are only 3 scores there, but only when you beat your own score, it would get announced there, no? And that doesn't mean you can't esc->retry. And he does have 358 plays on Rhapsody - Emerald Sword [Extreme]. It doesn't look like how people usually play, but yes, you CAN play like that.H1ko wrote:
hyt103 is just a joke... fc kanbu in 4 or 3 plays GOOD JOKE, or SS shounen A (HAHAHAHAH) his accuracy sucks... thats hacks nothing more.
i dont care if he pass me or not that's not the point i just want hackers banned...
hyt013 is HACKER!!!
gg
kanbu fc 3 or 4 plays(miss last note rofl)
it sounds funny but sounds like a plan.TKiller wrote:
afaik he was dropping acc to make it 66.6%
looks like he got bored in process : D
kaouji wrote:
it sounds funny but sounds like a plan.TKiller wrote:
afaik he was dropping acc to make it 66.6%
looks like he got bored in process : D
if i or unknown player have 40 accounts staff ISTANT BAN ME/HIM, this is the rule and this is correct, but why no to hyt and cookiezi ??Glasslake wrote:
When Cookiezi's multi accounts got deleted, his 'Cookiezi' account was saved. So the same thing will probably happen in this case. Anyways, let's see if he says no to peppy when he tells him to play some maps.
these are 4-5 account he have 40 accountsGlasslake wrote:
Maybe because it was his first(also last) offense, so they let him have the main account.
Here's the post if you're interested : viewtopic.php?p=379793#p379793
more than 40.LoweH wrote:
these are 4-5 account he have 40 accountsGlasslake wrote:
Maybe because it was his first(also last) offense, so they let him have the main account.
Here's the post if you're interested : viewtopic.php?p=379793#p379793
Maybe because he didn't want to play? ;PLoweH wrote:
if he don't cheat why when me and osuplayer asked him to play Emerald sword he said "No, don't annoying me, i don't want play it"
^ He does have a point. it can also be applied to other countries tooTonoko wrote:
BUT,in china,you cannot use this account rule to all the players.
like me >< .if you mulit my account,maybe you can find 20 or 30 account below. I am not sure about that,because my college's network have only 1 IP address...3kinnagi >< is also here...
Please turn to page 33-34 of this thread to check what I have said, OK?Suck wrote:
I wonder here in osu HOW MANY PROS HAVE EVER CHEATED ONCE OR MORE? I wont surprise if there are many of them had done it. Let us face it, either hyt103 cheat or not. He will never been banned becoz cheating but becoz he was #1 and looks like cheating. You guys talking about Emerald sword, then Who The Fuck is esonic and if you ppl think there are things hyt103 done not common sense then Why The Hell is this DOUBLE TIME HARD ROCK score is common sense. If not, esonic should been banned long time ago. Well, let me tell you, the common sense is " you think a guy is cheating, it looks like cheating, and yes he is cheating but you just cant get him banned." Sry, maybe you can get him banned, if he is high rank pro.
esonic wrote:
Please turn to page 33-34 of this thread to check what I have said, OK?Suck wrote:
I wonder here in osu HOW MANY PROS HAVE EVER CHEATED ONCE OR MORE? I wont surprise if there are many of them had done it. Let us face it, either hyt103 cheat or not. He will never been banned becoz cheating but becoz he was #1 and looks like cheating. You guys talking about Emerald sword, then Who The Fuck is esonic and if you ppl think there are things hyt103 done not common sense then Why The Hell is this DOUBLE TIME HARD ROCK score is common sense. If not, esonic should been banned long time ago. Well, let me tell you, the common sense is " you think a guy is cheating, it looks like cheating, and yes he is cheating but you just cant get him banned." Sry, maybe you can get him banned, if he is high rank pro.
BTW, I'm sorry to hear that hyt103 is a cheater.
getting banned or not is not under my control, what I can do is just AFK forever.Suck wrote:
But you still here right? didnt get banned, did you? the replay still watched by others other cheat replay and the score you scoring by cheating are all here. I wonder if hyt103 is cheating and he does an appologize, will him get away from being banned?
Suck wrote:
I do remember what they did to one_love when they found out he cheated, thats all what I wanna say.
ouranhshc wrote:
why do i feel like this isn't going to end well
He admitted to osuplayer that these accounts are his .. (: repeat : he must be banned. and no, I have nothing against him i want only a honest game, and don't want a hacker 1#/2# , I hope good sense for the 40 accounts and for skill boostouranhshc wrote:
Why would a person create 40 accounts; use your common sense.
I need proof.LoweH wrote:
He admitted to osuplayer that these accounts are his .. (:
(My last post, sorry beuchi)
the topic wrote:
"This score doesn't look right" Thread
People seems don't like to read.Beuchi-chan wrote:
Okay, enough of this.
I have no idea about if hyt103 is a cheater or not, but you're all already taking this too far. Yes, he'll have to prove if he's cheating or not, yes, peppy (or someone able to) will decide if he's cheating or not, but fighting here and starting talking shit about him or any other people doesn't solve anything, so please stop.
I fail to comprehend this sentence.LoweH wrote:
Beuchi, seriously anyone ask your opinion, so ok stop cya
seriously, if your going to accuse someone. atleast have some CONCRETE evidenceLoweH wrote:
Beuchi, seriously anyone ask your opinion, so ok stop cyaBeuchi-chan wrote:
LoweH, seriously, stop now <_< You already made us to lock this thread, don't do it again.
And a crazy mouse spin on sliders...Neruell wrote:
Well, I am no pro in Osu! but if i watch at least the replay of this beatmap ( http://osu.ppy.sh/b/3516 ) of Perfect____X ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/332787 ), especially the last part with the spinning looks very strange to me, kinda like 477 all the time.
Looks perfectly fine to me. The end spinner probably just looks like constant 477 because the only times that you see the RPM with FL on just happens to be around that number.Puskin wrote:
And a crazy mouse spin on sliders...Neruell wrote:
Well, I am no pro in Osu! but if i watch at least the replay of this beatmap ( http://osu.ppy.sh/b/3516 ) of Perfect____X ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/332787 ), especially the last part with the spinning looks very strange to me, kinda like 477 all the time.