kvnyaoi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/-flandre%20scarlet-
def multi, first/top ranks in hard taiko maps on first day on first try, 99 acc
also, total hits in osu is lower than max combo? what the

My multi account..

sorry..

but i don't use hack.. TT

total hits in osu is lower than max combo:
I Don't know this happen. but i think not include the slider tick in total hit.

Bikko IS NOT A CHEATER.
I was spectacor many times. Also, bot did 100s and 50s?

poor bikko always been accused for cheating
people really need to read your profile

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/349603
Possible Multi-account, a week being player, and near FC this map... i think impossible for a noob ._.
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51308&m=2

Hmm, in this song (http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34527) the first 4 look strange to me, the kampfer77 ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/76502 ), Thssy (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/200357), Kensei Akio ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/142425), looks very strange to me but lll ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/203892) looks like a bot 100%. And all except kampfer77 played with just like 2 mods. lll played with 3 but is clear that it is a bot i guess.

In this song too, ( http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34562 ) the #2 player AlmarM (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/195336 ) uses a bot for spin too I guess.

For this song, (http://osu.ppy.sh/b/35124 ), the #2 XiaoWei (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/254056 ) spins very strange, especially the 2 spin. And not sure about kampfer77 again. Maybe just a good spinner...

P.S. I am sorry if i suspect someone who is innocent, just wondering about someone's really "crazy", more like unhuman spin skills.

Neruell wrote:

Hmm, in this song (http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34527) the first 4 look strange to me, the kampfer77 ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/76502 ), Thssy (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/200357), Kensei Akio ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/142425), looks very strange to me but lll ( http://osu.ppy.sh/u/203892) looks like a bot 100%. And all except kampfer77 played with just like 2 mods. lll played with 3 but is clear that it is a bot i guess.

In this song too, ( http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34562 ) the #2 player AlmarM (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/195336 ) uses a bot for spin too I guess.

For this song, (http://osu.ppy.sh/b/35124 ), the #2 XiaoWei (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/254056 ) spins very strange, especially the 2 spin. And not sure about kampfer77 again. Maybe just a good spinner...

P.S. I am sorry if i suspect someone who is innocent, just wondering about someone's really "crazy", more like unhuman spin skills.

just would like to point out that Thssy is legit, has been proved many times

Bikko isn't bot.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10926

*cough*

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522: #1 lightROCK spinners are way too weird. #2 Glasslake spinners are weird too and his cursor movement is weird as well.

This guy has no idea what he's talking about, you're comparing my spins with lightrock's midpoint spin LOL. And weird cursor movements? Oh lawd.

Obviously I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. I haven't been playing this game for long so I don't know how to recognize cheats to skills. Sorry if I offended you, your spinners look way too perfect to me and I watched a lot of replays of the very top tier guys and they don't spin the way you do, that's all.

Alright, sorry.

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41116

#6 Cerise

1x100 / 99.67% acc


Final result: SS 100%


o.o?

h3k1ru wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41116

#6 Cerise

Looking at his/her statistics, Cerise fails to get an SS on this map (see around #27) but still maintains an accuracy of 100%

What's more, Cerise has been here for mere three weeks, and SSing some of the harder maps in osu!

Fishy, don't you think?

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/26179


#3

nevermind.

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/26179


#3

Spins are seriously glitched on this map. Look #9 and #26(but Gens actually did that on purpose, as a test).

Blue Dragon wrote:

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/26179


#3

Spins are seriously glitched on this map. Look #9 and #26(but Gens actually did that on purpose, as a test).

Oh wow, that's still there.

Lia - My Soul, Your Beats! (TV Size)
[xxheroxx's Beats] in Taiko and look seed2978 in #13

This guy are adding 9 combo after song is end, everyone are 38 combo, but why seed2978 is 47? Weird isn't it?

#10 136,490 100.00% [Hong Kong] siupain035 38 38 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#11 134,817 98.68% [Taiwan] ggyy8997700 38 37 / 1 / 0 0 0 0 None
#12 134,255 97.37% [Taiwan] chuck76722 38 36 / 2 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#13 133,210 100.00% [Taiwan] seed2978 47 47 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#14 131,205 93.42% [Taiwan] jjacky811011 38 33 / 5 / 0 0 0 0 None
#15 131,169 96.05% [Korea] sinoriz 38 35 / 3 / 0 0 0 0 None
#16 130,755 100.00% [China] Colin Hou 38 38 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 None
#17 128,715 93.42% [Taiwan] a094516 38 33 / 5 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/47123

#1 Replay on Easy - ravand , he has a Constant Hexagonal spin on the spinners, he has 1 less mod than Yorucita, but he gets 17k more points than him, this really doesn't look right.

Leorda wrote:

Lia - My Soul, Your Beats! (TV Size)
[xxheroxx's Beats] in Taiko and look seed2978 in #13

This guy are adding 9 combo after song is end, everyone are 38 combo, but why seed2978 is 47? Weird isn't it?

#10 136,490 100.00% [Hong Kong] siupain035 38 38 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#11 134,817 98.68% [Taiwan] ggyy8997700 38 37 / 1 / 0 0 0 0 None
#12 134,255 97.37% [Taiwan] chuck76722 38 36 / 2 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#13 133,210 100.00% [Taiwan] seed2978 47 47 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#14 131,205 93.42% [Taiwan] jjacky811011 38 33 / 5 / 0 0 0 0 None
#15 131,169 96.05% [Korea] sinoriz 38 35 / 3 / 0 0 0 0 None
#16 130,755 100.00% [China] Colin Hou 38 38 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 None
#17 128,715 93.42% [Taiwan] a094516 38 33 / 5 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock

Not only this map Leorda, look:
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=57222&m=1

#1 351,790 96.76% [Denmark] Onizuki 309 289 / 20 / 0 0 0 0 None
#2 350,350 95.79% [Japan] deri0507 309 283 / 26 / 0 0 0 0 None
#3 339,480 93.85% [China] AyuAqua 309 271 / 38 / 0 0 0 0 None
#4 336,980 94.01% [China] smoker 309 272 / 37 / 0 0 0 0 None
..........................................
#36 174,236 90.74% [Taiwan] seed2978 324 264 / 60 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock,HalfTime

He's a cheater.... must be BAN -.-

Sorry for double post, but a bug replay or something strange happen http://osu.ppy.sh/s/1391
#6______14,139,810___86.66%____[China]__LirsRosso___940____627 / 111 / 25___39____21___8___None

I saw his replay, and miss in 490 combo, i repeated the replay some times and always the same miss... maybe a replay bug??, someone can say me what is it?

replay bug man.
There are many same replays in osu!.

No. that guy's been doing that shit over and over. if anything it's still bug abusing.

I am reporting weird spinners from this map once more (why all weird spinners that I found is on that map?)

#4 - MariiLaiin, that spin is humanly impossible.
And among another top fours, there's also ravand and TheGear that I've mentioned before. Only Glasslake that has a humanly possible spinner.

EDIT: ravand, MariiLaiin, and TheGear are all from Germany? I sense something suspicious.

LOL, using Halftime in Taiko seems you cheat O_o, but no!
Halftime is so usefull in taiko's easy songs (and Halftime+Hardrock is more usefull, the sppiners are so looooooong)

lllllllllllllllllll wrote:

i dont no how i got score. i not cheat!!
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=7960&m=1

Not matter, we know no cheat ^^

mikhe wrote:

LOL, using Halftime in Taiko seems you cheat O_o, but no!
Halftime is so usefull in taiko's easy songs (and Halftime+Hardrock is more usefull, the sppiners are so looooooong)

lllllllllllllllllll wrote:

i dont no how i got score. i not cheat!!
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=7960&m=1

Not matter, we know no cheat ^^


[attachment=0:3e83f]HTusefull.png[/attachment:3e83f]

People are just starting to figure this out? wow lol. I thought most people knew.

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18775

The hard diff. O_o is in the lead. WTF

81000 score. No mods and that bastard spin 2k each spinner. Those that are second and third spin more and even use mods.. Cheat?

Same goes with the second and third place. Their score isn't right either when I checked replay. Second rankedo nly got 68k on replay. Third got like 71k. I got 77k with 3 mods and SS. Seriously :p They didn't even SS. It can't be right -.-

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45881 Easy diff...
How did LightROCK mad that Impossible spin...

Teras wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18775

The hard diff. O_o is in the lead. WTF

81000 score. No mods and that bastard spin 2k each spinner. Those that are second and third spin more and even use mods.. Cheat?

Same goes with the second and third place. Their score isn't right either when I checked replay. Second rankedo nly got 68k on replay. Third got like 71k. I got 77k with 3 mods and SS. Seriously :p They didn't even SS. It can't be right -.-

It's somthing with the old spinner scoreing or somthing, this has been reported a million times.

Selee wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45881 Easy diff...
How did LightROCK mad that Impossible spin...

He did it on this( http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39469 ) as well, and there's been numerous reports about this guy earlier in this thread. Seriously do the admins still check this thread?

edit: and this too http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41071 , but on this one he stopped being that much of a dumbshit and used a slightly larger radius for his macro

Teras wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18775

The hard diff. O_o is in the lead. WTF

81000 score. No mods and that bastard spin 2k each spinner. Those that are second and third spin more and even use mods.. Cheat?

Same goes with the second and third place. Their score isn't right either when I checked replay. Second rankedo nly got 68k on replay. Third got like 71k. I got 77k with 3 mods and SS. Seriously :p They didn't even SS. It can't be right -.-

loool Faceman the 2nd :p

Ichijo - Roulette Roulette
[Easy] in Taiko, and look assa0860

#1 136,223 99.15% [Korea] assa0860 117 115 / 2 / 0 0 0 0 None
#2 136,129 100.00% [Indonesia] Leorda 117 117 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 Flashlight
#3 135,860 100.00% [Korea] youngdow 117 117 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#4 134,000 100.00% [Japan] suinagi 117 117 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock

I think this is so weird...... how he beat me, youngdow and suinagi without mods D:? I have no idea, is he's cheat?

IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard] in Taiko Mode

#1 kanopu
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1147&m=1

Is it possible for a human to beat the 1/8 circles in a bpm 170 song?

He got all 300... that part need you press the buttom 21 times per second.

EIDT: K, that's crazy. Sorry for this.

We have already discussed that issue and it's actually possible. Look a few pages back for youngdow's post.

EDIT: Wait what, all 300? But all were single hits, right?

mikhe wrote:

Leorda wrote:

Lia - My Soul, Your Beats! (TV Size)
[xxheroxx's Beats] in Taiko and look seed2978 in #13

This guy are adding 9 combo after song is end, everyone are 38 combo, but why seed2978 is 47? Weird isn't it?

#10 136,490 100.00% [Hong Kong] siupain035 38 38 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#11 134,817 98.68% [Taiwan] ggyy8997700 38 37 / 1 / 0 0 0 0 None
#12 134,255 97.37% [Taiwan] chuck76722 38 36 / 2 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#13 133,210 100.00% [Taiwan] seed2978 47 47 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#14 131,205 93.42% [Taiwan] jjacky811011 38 33 / 5 / 0 0 0 0 None
#15 131,169 96.05% [Korea] sinoriz 38 35 / 3 / 0 0 0 0 None
#16 130,755 100.00% [China] Colin Hou 38 38 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 None
#17 128,715 93.42% [Taiwan] a094516 38 33 / 5 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock

Not only this map Leorda, look:
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=57222&m=1

#1 351,790 96.76% [Denmark] Onizuki 309 289 / 20 / 0 0 0 0 None
#2 350,350 95.79% [Japan] deri0507 309 283 / 26 / 0 0 0 0 None
#3 339,480 93.85% [China] AyuAqua 309 271 / 38 / 0 0 0 0 None
#4 336,980 94.01% [China] smoker 309 272 / 37 / 0 0 0 0 None
..........................................
#36 174,236 90.74% [Taiwan] seed2978 324 264 / 60 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock,HalfTime

He's a cheater.... must be BAN -.-

yeah wth man, he's been doing this way too often and should be banned!

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/54119

#1 195,044 96.74% Mikethefox 102 44 / 1 / 1 19 1 0 None
this guy spins like auto.Is it possible to spin 477

Hirano Aya - Hare Hare Yukai
[Easy] in Taiko, look mikanshuukei

#1 91,870 97.96% [China] mikanshuukei 98 94 / 4 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#2 90,636 100.00% [China] march9th 78 78 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock,Flashlight
#3 89,880 99.36% [Brazil] Rickisb 78 77 / 1 / 0 0 0 0 Flashlight
#4 89,640 100.00% [Denmark] Onizuki 78 78 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#5 89,640 100.00% [Japan] kanopu 78 78 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#6 89,640 100.00% [Japan] deri0507 78 78 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#7 89,065 99.36% [Japan] pakkumandesu 78 77 / 1 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#8 88,620 100.00% [Korea] youngdow 78 78 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#9 88,140 100.00% [Brazil] rickisbb 78 78 / 0 / 0 0 0 0 HardRock
#10 87,564 99.36% [Russia] peretransformator 78 77 / 1 / 0 0 0 0 None

This guy are freaking up the combo, why this guy combo is 98, but the rest is 78? Cheater/Hacker?

Hey i'm here for notify a hacker, he is hyt103

btw, here the foundations :

~ All "new pro records" are from May's end and June (this is so obvious o_O)

~ You can see in much maps, from spin or from stream precision (velocity precision and aim precision)

~ I think is possible use the hack "half time" in normal mode (You can see one_love for example),

~ And c'mon guys all know, he was noob and now can SS shounen A and get a S with 3 100s in Nuclear Fusion Dojo ... (so but so obvious ..), you can see all old records, gameplay is "TOTALLY DIFFERENT"

Replay foundations :

~ you can see in this song : Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store (very, very obvious errors here)

Download: hyt103 - Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store [Impossible] (2010-05-28) Osu.osr

1 • the precision with he does the streams is impressive, i think is so hard with a mouse q:
2 • 00:25:674 (4) ^
3 • 00:59:157 (1) - you can see here, before the spin .. is so LOL
4 • 00:48:709 (1) - same here ^
5 • 00:55:714 (4) / 00:55:833 (5) - this mouse stack is so strange like a half time
6 • 01:10:793 (1) - Ok is totally impossible with mouse, (but i think too with tablet) do a stream like this .. (movement is obv .. :])
7 • 01:33:591 (1) - 01:33:828 (2) - I think is so hard do that sliders so precise like it
8 • 01:41:902 (1) - Why he stopped the cursor before all streams ? (:
9 • 01:43:802 (1) - ^
10 • 01:50:807 (4) / 01:50:926 (5) - 100 in same in the same part (5)
11 • 02:39:489 (8) / 02:39:608 (9) - Oh so strange mouse stack like a half time :3
12 • 02:51:244 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - What about this spins (?)


This is only a part, and only a map, he is obv, he is a hacker ..


"OTHER NEW PRO RECORD, LITTLE LIST"


Ok, this enough? me h1ko and osuplayer think he is a cheater, and you can see we are "expert player of the game" we rarely go wrong about this ...


STILL DON'T BELIEVE? Ask a bat to do the command " !multi hyt103 "

he have over 40 accounts ... only this is enough for a ban i think (:(:(:(:(:


nothing to add, i can only say : I (i think too you) DON'T WANT A HACKER 1st IN OSU


EDIT : I asked to play hyt103 this maps, with me and osuplayer with spect, he said : NO D:

^

As I said a few days ago in chat, hyt's Hardware Store play is clearly cheated.

LoweH wrote:

Hey i'm here for notify a hacker, he is hyt103

btw, here the foundations :

~ All "new pro records" are from May's end and July (this is so obvious o_O)

~ You can see in much maps, from spin or from stream precision (velocity precision and aim precision)

~ I think is possible use the hack "half time" in normal mode (You can see one_love for example),

~ And c'mon guys all know, he was noob and now can SS shounen A and get a S with 3 100s in Nuclear Fusion Dojo ... (so but so obvious ..), you can see all old records, gameplay is "TOTALLY DIFFERENT"

Replay foundations :


~ you can see in this song : Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store (very, very obvious errors here)

[attachment=0:b7538]hyt103 - Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store [Impossible] (2010-05-28) Osu.osr[/attachment:b7538]

1 • the precision with he does the streams is impressive, i think is so hard with a mouse q:
2 • 00:25:674 (4) ^
3 • 00:59:157 (1) - you can see here, before the spin .. is so LOL
4 • 00:48:709 (1) - same here ^
5 • 00:55:714 (4) / 00:55:833 (5) - this mouse stack is so strange like a half time
6 • 01:10:793 (1) - Ok is totally impossible with mouse, (but i think too with tablet) do a stream like this .. (movement is obv .. :])
7 • 01:33:591 (1) - 01:33:828 (2) - I think is so hard do that sliders so precise like it
8 • 01:41:902 (1) - Why he stopped the cursor before all streams ? (:
9 • 01:43:802 (1) - ^
10 • 01:50:807 (4) / 01:50:926 (5) - 100 in same in the same part (5)
11 • 02:39:489 (8) / 02:39:608 (9) - Oh so strange mouse stack like a half time :3
12 • 02:51:244 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - What about this spins (?)


This is only a part, and only a map, he is obv, he is a hacker ..


"OTHER NEW PRO RECORD, LITTLE LIST"

SPOILER

~ KOTOKO - Wing my Way
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/46827

Position #02

~ IOSYS - Kanbu de Todomatte Sugu Tokeru ~ Kyouki no Udongein
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16266

Position #05

Other : Spam stream too precise in rhythm in "strange stream part", he got it in 3 tries

~ IOSYS - Club Ibuki in Break All
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/35611

Position #06

~ IOSYS - Fascination Marisa
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/35611

Position #03

~ Ruru Ichinose - Hinarin's Relation of Misfortune
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/46486

Position #04

~ IOSYS - Captain Murasa's Ass Anchor
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13422

Position #02

~ Hanataba - Night of Knights
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5445

Position #10

~ REDALiCE - Taboo Tears You Up
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28025

Position #03

~ Rhapsody - Emerald Sword (So LOL)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/25580

Position #02

Other : srsly, wtf

~ Hommarju feat. Latte - masterpiece
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/47152

Position #04

~ Johannes Brahms - Impromptus No.18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13991

Position #06

~ Seiryu - Time to Air
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24557

Position #01

~ Naoki & Tatsh - Red Zone
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5731

Position #07

~ IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147

Position #12

~ Green Day - American Idiot
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57696

Position #04

~ IOSYS - Kyuukyoku Yakiniku Restaurant! Orin no Jigokutei!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31620

Position #03

~ Suzaku VS Genbu - Himiko
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/47462

Position #08

~ Jun Wakita - Shounen A
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36211

Position #02 (ss is impossible in this map..)

~ IOSYS - Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8442

Position #03

~ ZUN - Deaf to all but the Song (So but SOOO lol)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43589

Position #04

~ Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/2042

Position #05

~ IOSYS - Power of Dream
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34162

Position #14

Ok, this enough? me h1ko and osuplayer think he is a cheater, and you can see we are "expert player of the game" we rarely go wrong about this ...


STILL DON'T BELIEVE? Ask a bat to do the command " !multi hyt103 "

he have over 40 accounts ... only this is enough for a ban i think (:(:(:(:(:

nothing to add, i can only say : I (i think too you) DON'T WANT A HACKER 1st IN OSU

Man,you are the first one point out what i hope to say but be afraid to say……
Finally……someone exposes it.

I saw Hardware Store and found nothing wrong, but Emerald Sword was just ridiculous. He goes to the beat on the EXACT moment that it "explodes".

Blue Dragon wrote:

I saw Hardware Store and found nothing wrong, but Emerald Sword was just ridiculous. He goes to the beat on the EXACT moment that it "explodes".

Exactly

I felt as if I was watching osu! playing the song in auto mode

What scandals for China, this and the lzy-sprosive-zetia multi-account

HE MUST BE BANNED, don't do favours because he is 1# ...

LoweH wrote:

HE MUST BE BANNED, don't do favours because he is 1# ...

Great, great work LoweH. It's one thing to go through all that evidence, and another to speak out. Same goes to osuplayer111 and H1ko. You three earn my highest respect.

SSing SHOUNEN A LOL, even taNa couldn't SS it.

Besides that, I've only watched his Emerald Sword replay, the weird thing I found was how he spins; starts slowly and gets really fast towards the middle until the end.

If so, then ban him, but I wonder, how many cheaters like him, high rank, pro replays, and their scores dont look right.

I think there are so many ss scores on hard maps dont look right, so many hidden flanshlight scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. so many hard rock double time scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. If #1 is cheating, then we must ban him, but how about other cheaters just becoz they arent #1, they arent high rank players(well, they may high rank players) or they dont play alot, we dont need do anything to them? Let them still playing in osu, let them replays still watching by other ppl, let them still show their scores to you and tell you, " you are so noob!" ?

Well, I used to tell bats and other ppl, someone is cheating, but seems no one really care that much like me. I dont know what I can do except tell other ppl "I think this guy is cheating" and, most time I get answer like, " You think, but you cant prove it". Yes, If I didnt see the cheater play by myself, I can never prove anything. However, I dont like to see osu become a game full of cheaters and they are the top players in this game, just becoz we think this guy is cheating but we cant prove he is cheating.

Glasslake wrote:

SSing SHOUNEN A LOL, even taNa couldn't SS it.

Besides that, I've only watched his Emerald Sword replay, the weird thing I found was how he spins; starts slowly and gets really fast towards the middle until the end.

Just saying, there are alot of maps TaNa cant ss but other ppl can do, or TaNa cant get a nice acc but other ppl can do.

Suck wrote:

If so, then ban him, but I wonder, how many cheaters like him, high rank, pro replays, and their scores dont look right.

I think there are so many ss scores on hard maps dont look right, so many hidden flanshlight scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. so many hard rock double time scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. If #1 is cheating, then we must ban him, but how about other cheaters just becoz they arent #1, they arent high rank players(well, they may high rank players) or they dont play alot, we dont need do anything to them? Let them still playing in osu, let them replays still watching by other ppl, let them still show their scores to you and tell you, " you are so noob!" ?

Well, I used to tell bats and other ppl, someone is cheating, but seems no one really care that much like me. I dont know what I can do except tell other ppl "I think this guy is cheating" and, most time I get answer like, " You think, but you cant prove it". Yes, If I didnt see the cheater play by myself, I can never prove anything. However, I dont like to see osu become a game full of cheaters and they are the top players in this game, just becoz we think this guy is cheating but we cant prove he is cheating.

If you see any replays that are fishy, post them here. Even though it's gonna take months for an admin to check. (Seriously that lightROCK and ravand guy still aren't banned, how many more replays do you admins need to realize that their spins aren't humanly possible?)

And what are you saying there's no proof, did you even read LoweH's post?

Suck wrote:

Glasslake wrote:

SSing SHOUNEN A LOL, even taNa couldn't SS it.

Besides that, I've only watched his Emerald Sword replay, the weird thing I found was how he spins; starts slowly and gets really fast towards the middle until the end.

Just saying, there are alot of maps TaNa cant ss but other ppl can do, or TaNa cant get a nice acc but other ppl can do.

Except I was actually watching taNa when he was trying to SS Shounen A. I know that he doesn't have to SS every hard map here, I only used him as an example.

And for your information, I'm not saying hyt is a cheater, I'm just saying that those scores don't look right.

Glasslake wrote:

Suck wrote:

If so, then ban him, but I wonder, how many cheaters like him, high rank, pro replays, and their scores dont look right.

I think there are so many ss scores on hard maps dont look right, so many hidden flanshlight scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. so many hard rock double time scores on insane/hard maps dont look right. If #1 is cheating, then we must ban him, but how about other cheaters just becoz they arent #1, they arent high rank players(well, they may high rank players) or they dont play alot, we dont need do anything to them? Let them still playing in osu, let them replays still watching by other ppl, let them still show their scores to you and tell you, " you are so noob!" ?

Well, I used to tell bats and other ppl, someone is cheating, but seems no one really care that much like me. I dont know what I can do except tell other ppl "I think this guy is cheating" and, most time I get answer like, " You think, but you cant prove it". Yes, If I didnt see the cheater play by myself, I can never prove anything. However, I dont like to see osu become a game full of cheaters and they are the top players in this game, just becoz we think this guy is cheating but we cant prove he is cheating.

If you see any replays that are fishy, post them here. Even though it's gonna take months for an admin to check. (Seriously that lightROCK and ravand guy still aren't banned, how many more replays do you admins need to realize that their spins aren't humanly possible?)

And what are you saying there's no proof, did you even read LoweH's post?

Just saying, there are alot of maps TaNa cant ss but other ppl can do, or TaNa cant get a nice acc but other ppl can do.[/quote]

Except I was actually watching taNa when he was trying to SS Shounen A. And for your information, I'm not saying hyt is a cheater, I'm just saying that those replays don't look right.[/quote]

Man, the proof means you think the replay dont looks right, that also means there will be ppl think it looks right. I got that reply from bat and peppy last year. Then I just give up to point out the ppl "I think are cheating". Well, yes, he cheats, but I doubt if ppl can get him banned.

btw hyt103 use a tablet

Suck wrote:

Man, the proof means you think the replay dont looks right, that also means there will be ppl think it looks right. I got that reply from bat and peppy last year. Then I just give up to point out the ppl "I think are cheating". Well, yes, he cheats, but I doubt if ppl can get him banned.

Then what kind of proof can they provide? There's no solid proof other than the fact that he suddenly got all those scores in only a month and the fact that the mouse movement is clearly weird. Other than that, I don't think there's anymore proof.

The only ways to tell that someone is surely cheating is if that person does one of these:
[*]Constant 477 spin
[*]High scores with low playcount (For example : http://osu.ppy.sh/u/1_1_1 , come on, this is SO fucking obvious.)
[*]Cursor teleporting (Unless the player is proven to use a touch screen like Bikko)

Glasslake wrote:

[*]High scores with low playcount

IOSYS - Kanbu de Todomatte Sugu Tokeru ~ Kyouki no Udongein
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/1391
3 playcounts get #5 alomst FC

IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/243
3 playcounts get #12 and FC

ycsnake wrote:

btw hyt103 use a tablet

Me too,then what?

hyt103 is just a joke... fc kanbu in 4 or 3 plays GOOD JOKE, or SS shounen A (HAHAHAHAH) his accuracy sucks... thats hacks nothing more.
i dont care if he pass me or not that's not the point i just want hackers banned...

hyt013 is HACKER!!!

gg

kanbu fc 3 or 4 plays(miss last note rofl)

...
offline much?

Well, well. First at all, innocent until disproven. Good points were exposed, but we don't have a really impossible prove (e.g. their combos are greater than max combo allowed by the song).

Secondly, who cares if the user is #1? If you're really sure it's a cheater, then ignore the situation.

And remember, H1ko: Don't need to prove anything, because everybody knows you're the best! ;D

(P.S.: Note I'm not saying hyt013 is a hacker, unless you really prove it is)

Arusha Shuna wrote:

...
offline much?

for what?... to look like a "cool player"?...(more probably he did some trick or cheat)

ycsnake wrote:

btw hyt103 use a tablet

And... what? (this fact don't prove that he isn't a cheater)

Neo Adonis wrote:

(P.S.: Note I'm not saying hyt013 is a hacker, unless you really prove it is)

hyt103 must prove that he isn't a cheater... or we can consider him a cheater (too much evidences)

mikhe wrote:

for what?... to look like a "cool player"?...(more probably he did some trick or cheat)

h-hey don't throw me that hard it's just a theory D;

I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.

DJ KRZY wrote:

I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DJ KRZY wrote:

I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.

That only means he really move his mouse or pen on tablet, I never believe a man can ss Just to Believe Keyboard Breaking in the old days, back to a year before, the video on youtube only prove mouse moving, how can you prove clicking with that kind of video? I can do that too, act like Im clicking. Now I dont believe ppl can ss Night of Knight DJpop's Ex Stage either, with or without hidden. Put a video on youtube? Wtf, video can be cutted and editted too. Oh, well, before all those things, you need a 1000 USD Sony HDR-XR350E to make an awesome video.

Suck wrote:

DJ KRZY wrote:

I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.

That only means he really move his mouse or pen on tablet, I never believe a man can ss Just to Believe Keyboard Breaking in the old days, back to a year before, the video on youtube only prove mouse moving, how can you prove clicking with that kind of video? I can do that too, act like Im clicking. Now I dont believe ppl can ss Night of Knight DJpop's Ex Stage either, with or without hidden. Put a video on youtube? Wtf, video can be cutted and editted too. Oh, well, before all those things, you need a 1000 USD Sony HDR-XR350E to make an awesome video.

If you can then do it.
I will watch every frame and give you a report it's true or not,the acts are synchronous or not
Video can be cutted or editted ,but it will left their marks also.

Suck wrote:

DJ KRZY wrote:

I guess the only way out for hyt103 is to post a video of himself playing Kanbu, Shounen A, Emerald Sword, etc. with his hand and screen both showing.

That only means he really move his mouse or pen on tablet, I never believe a man can ss Just to Believe Keyboard Breaking in the old days, back to a year before, the video on youtube only prove mouse moving, how can you prove clicking with that kind of video? I can do that too, act like Im clicking. Now I dont believe ppl can ss Night of Knight DJpop's Ex Stage either, with or without hidden. Put a video on youtube? Wtf, video can be cutted and editted too. Oh, well, before all those things, you need a 1000 USD Sony HDR-XR350E to make an awesome video.

Well, do you have a better idea? I'm all ears.

EDIT:Seems my ability of expression failed so do some edit.

Glasslake wrote:

Suck wrote:

Man, the proof means you think the replay dont looks right, that also means there will be ppl think it looks right. I got that reply from bat and peppy last year. Then I just give up to point out the ppl "I think are cheating". Well, yes, he cheats, but I doubt if ppl can get him banned.

Then what kind of proof can they provide? There's no solid proof other than the fact that he suddenly got all those scores in only a month and the fact that the mouse movement is clearly weird. Other than that, I don't think there's anymore proof.

The only ways to tell that someone is surely cheating is if that person does one of these:
[*]Constant 477 spin
[*]High scores with low playcount (For example : http://osu.ppy.sh/u/1_1_1 , come on, this is SO fucking obvious.)
[*]Cursor teleporting (Unless the player is proven to use a touch screen like Bikko)

Not read all thread yet, just point this out.

You can only say "most" instead of surely for this, spunout, offline, multiaccount(Illegal as well but its different as cheat) can do practice as well. I don't think "too good" is a reason for accusing people, yes it is a indication to doubt. But as an indication, you can keep an eye on this player's plays and find more proof, like impossible move or constant 477 spin, THEN ACCUSE A PLAYER BY ALL PROVE INSTEAD OF THE REASON "HE IS GOOD". doubts need no proof but accuses do. See page 34 and 35 and see how sprosive is misunderstand.

I will try to contact hyt103 to ask him all about this and ask if he can post a video he play like sprosive ASAP, this is the best way to clear all of this I guess. Or let peppy spec him when he is playing.

deepsea wrote:

You can only say "most" instead of surely for this, spunout, offline, multiaccount(Illegal as well but its different as cheat) can do practice as well.

Heh, no. How can you be so sure you can HD+FL a map as soon you turn off spun out? That guy spent 1 playcount on each map he #1'd. NO second try at all.

Here are the dates of when he scored those #1s.

All 5 in the same day, all 5 in the same hour, you're gonna say that's possible with just spun out and offline practice? Ya right.

Also, you !multi'd him yourself one time and he appeared to have another account, so why is this guy still there?

deepsea wrote:

For people accused someone simply because "he is too good"(Not all just them), go to page 34 and 35 see how sprosive is misunderstand.

And then Sprosive made a video.

deepsea wrote:

Also, learn 2 play.

Now who is this directed to?

deepsea wrote:

I will try to contact hyt103 to ask him all about this and ask if he can post a video he play like sprosive ASAP, this is the best way to clear all of this I guess.

That would be the best way, yes.

Glasslake wrote:

Heh, no. How can you be so sure you can HD+FL a map as soon you turn off spun out? That guy spent 1 playcount on each map he #1'd.

And just for your information, here are the dates where he scores those #1s.

SPOILER

[attachment=1:77c6d]scores.jpg[/attachment:77c6d]

All 5 in the same day, all 5 in the same hour, you're gonna say that possible with just spun out and offline practice? Ya right.

Scroll up and

deepsea wrote:

You can only say "most" instead of surely for this bla bla

and he is one of the most. I don't know what are you attempt to say here. Sorry for my bad English.>_>

Glasslake wrote:

Also, you !multi'd him yourself one time and he appeared to have another account, so why is this guy still there?

[attachment=0:77c6d]multi.jpg[/attachment:77c6d]

I reported.

Glasslake wrote:

And then Sprosive made a video.

Yes.

Glasslake wrote:

Now who the fuck is this directed to?

Scroll up and

deepsea wrote:

For people accused someone simply because "he is too good"(Not all just them)

And if you need a reason, scroll up again.

deepsea wrote:

I don't think "too good" is a reason for accusing people, yes it is a indication to doubt. But as an indication, you can keep an eye on this player's plays and find more proof, like impossible move or constant 477 spin, THEN ACCUSE A PLAYER BY ALL PROVE INSTEAD OF THE REASON "HE IS GOOD". doubts need no proof but accuses do.

Glasslake wrote:

That would be the best way, yes.

I am doing this, or we can do this as another way like ppy spec, this is the only surely prove.


Also INB4 people flame me for "cheater supporter" or something else, I better say this first. Cheaters suck and gtfo osu. I just want to prove and yes there is an easy way to do(ppy spec). So I think its better to keep on doubt instead of accuse atm.

kaouji wrote:

ycsnake wrote:

btw hyt103 use a tablet

Me too,then what?

not a mouse as lowh said, that's all
I can't say anything more

cheater supporters!!! players dont become the bests in 1 week, i think here is failing common sense but mehhh this is starting to be funny...

deepsea wrote:

Glasslake wrote:

Heh, no. How can you be so sure you can HD+FL a map as soon you turn off spun out? That guy spent 1 playcount on each map he #1'd.

And just for your information, here are the dates where he scores those #1s.

SPOILER

[attachment=1:54351]scores.jpg[/attachment:54351]

All 5 in the same day, all 5 in the same hour, you're gonna say that possible with just spun out and offline practice? Ya right.

Scroll up and

deepsea wrote:

You can only say "most" instead of surely for this bla bla

and he is one of the most. I don't know what are you attempt to say here. Sorry for my bad English.>_>

He doesn't need to do obvious systematic things like 477 rpm spins for us to realize he is a cheater, there's this thing called common sense which you can rely on to judge if something makes sense. 5 playcounts for 5 #1 scores in the same hour is NOT possible how ever you put it.

deepsea wrote:

Glasslake wrote:

Also, you !multi'd him yourself one time and he appeared to have another account, so why is this guy still there?

[attachment=0:54351]multi.jpg[/attachment:54351]

I reported.

Thank you.

deepsea wrote:

Also INB4 people flame me for "cheater supporter" or something else, I better say this first. Cheaters suck and gtfo osu. I just want to prove and yes there is an easy way to do(ppy spec). So I think its better to keep on doubt instead of accuse atm.

I'm sure we all want this to get cleared up.

“low playcount” “too good”

I think this is not the reason

but i also hope he can make a video to prove

H1ko wrote:

cheater supporters!!! players dont become the bests in 1 week, i think here is failing common sense but mehhh this is starting to be funny...

Play Count: 75,136

If he has 7 or 75 or 751 play counts I will say it really disobey the common sense, also he was good at maintaining combo with sucky acc since long ago.

Yes this can't prove he did or didnt cheat, so lets wait peppy for this.


I find my ability of expression really failed so hope this can be more clear.
if(hyt103 is a cheater == TRUE)
{
He sucks ;
He should be banned ;
He should gtfo osu! ;
}
Else
{
This is another Sprosive case ;
}

hyt103 accuracy was always BADand now SS shounen A so pro in one week totaly a new player wooooo damn!!!
common sense pls i need youuuuuuuu!!!

deepsea wrote:

H1ko wrote:

cheater supporters!!! players dont become the bests in 1 week, i think here is failing common sense but mehhh this is starting to be funny...

Play Count: 75,136

If he has 7 or 75 or 751 play counts I will say it really disobey the common sense, also he was good at maintaining combo with sucky acc since long ago.

Yes this can't prove he did or didnt cheat, so lets wait peppy for this.


I find my ability of expression really failed so hope this can be more clear.
if(hyt103 is a cheater == TRUE)
{
He sucks ;
He should be banned ;
He should gtfo osu! ;
}
Else
{
This is another Sprosive case ;
}

It's difference.
sorry, i need to use chinese.
Sprosive 是从无到有……他能证明自己……
hyt103 不是……
he can't be another Sprosive case .

he should be banned by his over 40 accounts no matter he's a cheater or not.

H1ko wrote:

hyt103 accuracy was always BADand now SS shounen A so pro in one week totaly a new player wooooo damn!!!
common sense pls i need youuuuuuuu!!!

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28755
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36636

i need you... to keep calm man.
will keep on doubt until i see a video of hyt103. i'm also one who doubt this thing...
but for now, stop your stupid attitude, this is not totally impossible.

@kaouji
阿姨，显然这不可能是另一个基地，于是坐等video。

It's difference.
sorry, i need to use chinese.
Sprosive 是从无到有……他能证明自己……
hyt103 不是……
he can't be another Sprosive case


why hyt103 can not progress？

changing in quantity leads to changing in quality.

My ability of expression still fail so let's clear up messy stuffs.

1.peppy can prove a player cheat or not cheat just through spec, this is much more convincing than all of our "common sense".
2.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
3.hyt103 has over 7k plays and he was #2, and on many top40 scoreboards since long ago.
4.hyt103 switched from mouse to tablet.
5.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
6.I doubt hyt103 too and I am waiting video or ppy spec prove.
7.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
8.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
9.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
10.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!

I will stop replying people who didnt read my post, as a common sense this is waste of time.

Avfunny wrote:

It's difference.
sorry, i need to use chinese.
Sprosive 是从无到有……他能证明自己……
hyt103 不是……
he can't be another Sprosive case


why hyt103 can not progress？

changing in quantity leads to changing in quality.

Who can progress his acc 95%——>99.6%,in one night?

Progress takes time right? and when?

I'm not sure he did or not cheat

but when you play some map not enough ，and achieved good results

People will think you are cheating

just like Sprosive

So，Waiting for his video or peppy judgments

Do not make conclusions without permission

me and my friend FC'd that Marisa and Kanbu mashup map with a 98%+ or about that acc together (he was using the mouse and I was smashing keyboard with 2 hands) at a party, we were playing some maps like that just for fun. I wonder how many people would call me a cheater if I was logged in that time : D

Anyway, I love this thread so much now.

kaouji wrote:

Suck wrote:

That only means he really move his mouse or pen on tablet, I never believe a man can ss Just to Believe Keyboard Breaking in the old days, back to a year before, the video on youtube only prove mouse moving, how can you prove clicking with that kind of video? I can do that too, act like Im clicking. Now I dont believe ppl can ss Night of Knight DJpop's Ex Stage either, with or without hidden. Put a video on youtube? Wtf, video can be cutted and editted too. Oh, well, before all those things, you need a 1000 USD Sony HDR-XR350E to make an awesome video.

If you can then do it.
I will watch every frame and give you a report it's true or not,the acts are synchronous or not
Video can be cutted or editted ,but it will left their marks also.

Buy me a Sony HDR-XR350E honey, I will do it for you

I think I should point out that I tried to play in hyt103's... "style" that's apparently a piece of evidence, and I didn't do half bad (for me anyway). If one got used to it and was precise enough he/she could probably do exactly what is done in his replays. As for him suddenly improving in skill, some people tend to improve in "blocks" where they make huge improvements suddenly instead of improving constantly at a lower rate, so that explains why he started doing so well all of a sudden.

In other words, yes, hyt103 may be cheating, but I don't think there's quite enough proof to reach an entirely solid conclusion yet.

Suck wrote:

Buy me a Sony HDR-XR350E honey, I will do it for you

…………………………

(°д°) Blackmail? Extort?

pieguy1372 wrote:

In other words, yes, hyt103 may be cheating, but I don't think there's quite enough proof to reach an entirely solid conclusion yet.

^


We should probably give this a rest until peppy specs him

DJ KRZY wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

In other words, yes, hyt103 may be cheating, but I don't think there's quite enough proof to reach an entirely solid conclusion yet.

^


We should probably give this a rest until peppy specs him

I don't know why but……
He shuts down his ava and his personal data.
decline his acc to 93.1733%……

Is it an answer?

kaouji wrote:

I don't know why but……
He shuts down his ava and his personal data.
decline his acc to 93.1733%……

Is it an answer?

You can decline your acc so much... doing only "D" ranks (60%~70% acc)
This fact not strange, i have seen much players doing it.

You have 99% (average) + you do 10 or 20 maps with a "D" rank (less than 50% or like you want) = decline your acc fast

I'm not asking how but asking why……

'Ranked Score: 16,666,666,666 (#2)'

Derp.

Gladi wrote:

'Ranked Score: 16,666,666,666 (#2)'

Derp.

that why

man,half of the D-rankings come from app.
no matter to his rank score.

I'm just curious,I guess Only himself knows the answer

H1ko wrote:

hyt103 is just a joke... fc kanbu in 4 or 3 plays GOOD JOKE, or SS shounen A (HAHAHAHAH) his accuracy sucks... thats hacks nothing more.
i dont care if he pass me or not that's not the point i just want hackers banned...

hyt013 is HACKER!!!

gg

kanbu fc 3 or 4 plays(miss last note rofl)

^Really, from that you can only see he got it within an hour. Sure there are only 3 scores there, but only when you beat your own score, it would get announced there, no? And that doesn't mean you can't esc->retry. And he does have 358 plays on Rhapsody - Emerald Sword [Extreme]. It doesn't look like how people usually play, but yes, you CAN play like that.

Fixing accuracy really isn't that hard either. If you got time and dedication, sort by rank, and just go through every score you have. I'm not saying that he isn't a cheater. I can't prove anything for one side or another, but I seriously think you should atleast let him say something himself before accusing all over the place

Just felt like saying that :p

afaik he was dropping acc to make it 66.6%

looks like he got bored in process : D

TKiller wrote:

afaik he was dropping acc to make it 66.6%

looks like he got bored in process : D

it sounds funny but sounds like a plan.

kaouji wrote:

TKiller wrote:

afaik he was dropping acc to make it 66.6%

looks like he got bored in process : D

it sounds funny but sounds like a plan.

Well, this is why, like deepsea said

1.peppy can prove a player cheat or not cheat just through spec, this is much more convincing than all of our "common sense".
2.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
3.hyt103 has over 7k plays and he was #2, and on many top40 scoreboards since long ago.
4.hyt103 switched from mouse to tablet.
5.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
6.I doubt hyt103 too and I am waiting video or ppy spec prove.
7.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
8.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
9.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
10.cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!

and

cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!
cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!

Yes

cheaters suck and they should gtfo osu!

thats all

why do i feel like this isn't going to end well

hehe.............
that's all what i wanna say

I don't know if this story would help..

I and some of OSUer played CS with hyt103 a few days ago.
He asked us to install sxe (a software that to prevent cheating in CS)
We wonder why he did this for we've known each other for a long time.
His words impressed me:
"我不是怕你们作弊，我是怕你们以为我作弊"
（"I'm not afraid of you guys cheating,I'm afraid of you guys consider me is cheating"）

And hyt103 is really a CS pro.
i believe hyt103 is really a pro, not a cheater

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48057 Easy #1 kuurei
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/54959 #29 etc...

Weird Spinning, slow move to the centre like auto, and speed up dramatically...

if he don't cheat why when me and osuplayer asked him to play Emerald sword he said "No, don't annoying me, i don't want play it"

No one has the courage to ban him ..


Go h1ko! get cheat, you can't be banned because you are 1#!!! ROFL c'mon guys ...


btw, you "MUST" ban him for MULTIACCOUNT if you don't want ban him for cheat

When Cookiezi's multi accounts got deleted, his 'Cookiezi' account was saved. So the same thing will probably happen in this case. Anyways, let's see if he says no to peppy when he tells him to play some maps.

Glasslake wrote:

When Cookiezi's multi accounts got deleted, his 'Cookiezi' account was saved. So the same thing will probably happen in this case. Anyways, let's see if he says no to peppy when he tells him to play some maps.

if i or unknown player have 40 accounts staff ISTANT BAN ME/HIM, this is the rule and this is correct, but why no to hyt and cookiezi ??

the answer is : because the staff is stole D:

(poor english i know)