That map is SO easy compared. 4d makes this look like the easiest map ever.AkoSuminoe wrote:
There's a map which has been approved lately, so I would say it's sort of new, and the treacherous difficulty can be put into comparison with 4d.
---> Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0>
First of all, it's clear that you have to be able to read and play AR10.
The high BPM makes it difficult for mainstream players to tackle. Especially the few long streams in there.
The absence of break times and the length of the song makes consistency essential.
That's what I see, although so I still think 4d would take the win~ :3
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Literally. Well you have a point there.jesus1412 wrote:
That map is SO easy compared. 4d makes this look like the easiest map ever.AkoSuminoe wrote:
There's a map which has been approved lately, so I would say it's sort of new, and the treacherous difficulty can be put into comparison with 4d.
---> Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0>
First of all, it's clear that you have to be able to read and play AR10.
The high BPM makes it difficult for mainstream players to tackle. Especially the few long streams in there.
The absence of break times and the length of the song makes consistency essential.
That's what I see, although so I still think 4d would take the win~ :3
how about the U.N. Owen nico megamix TAG4? it's impossible to FC even cookiezi can't do it.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7385Koko Ban wrote:
how about the U.N. Owen nico megamix TAG4? it's impossible to FC even cookiezi can't do it.
Cookiezi also couldn't pass this without NoFail yet Jesse did it. Jesse for #1 osu! player!
JAKACHAN wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7385Koko Ban wrote:
how about the U.N. Owen nico megamix TAG4? it's impossible to FC even cookiezi can't do it.
Cookiezi also couldn't pass this without NoFail yet Jesse did it. Jesse for #1 osu! player!
4d makes this look like the easiest map ever.wtf exaggerations
but yes 4d is still hardest (not counting tag4 maps because duh)
Big blackjesus1412 wrote:
Not including troll maps (like the above xD) Freedom Dive (4 Dimensions) is without a doubt the hardest map in the game! Compared to that, all TAG4 maps seem passable (well, not to me, but to people who can actually play this game xD).
TAG4 maps are relatively easy to pass since they have very low HP Drain, playing them correctly is another matter though.Artaxerx wrote:
Not including troll maps (like the above xD) Freedom Dive (4 Dimensions) is without a doubt the hardest map in the game! Compared to that, all TAG4 maps seem passable (well, not to me, but to people who can actually play this game xD).
TAG4 maps are all kind of the hardest maps in the game by far (talking about ranked) imo.
Only utage is harder to pass than 4d, the other tag4's are pretty easy too.
Well that's true, most TAG maps are about 1 or 2 hard parts (if you just want to clear). But all of them are harder to FC than 4D imo.
why does this thread just keep coming back
because some random person that cant even pass insanes plays a map he cant pass and thinks "wow this must be the hardest map ever"
gee williker guys have you heard about the big black? that map is really hard 
Kodora
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/7671
heh, still hardest - noone S it nomod :\awp wrote:
Apparently someone got to the first break in Shotgun Symphony [Impossibly Intense] but nobody's even come close to getting halfway through that map.
Using half-time I got pretty close to the first break but couldn't make it.
#3 nomod score
But yeah, shotgun symphony is probably the hardest in terms of complexity in patterns (4d is just hard because high bpm and long/huge streams).
But yeah, shotgun symphony is probably the hardest in terms of complexity in patterns (4d is just hard because high bpm and long/huge streams).
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How did it not get excludedB-52 wrote:
Excluding all the maps that were made for watching Auto playing, Big Money would be the hardest
2211178
Well, theoretically Big Money is at least mapped for human... some maps like this is the most eggpain map you've ever seen is not, and I'm pretty much talking about excluding them.Aqo wrote:
How did it not get excludedB-52 wrote:
Excluding all the maps that were made for watching Auto playing, Big Money would be the hardest
Someone should map a ranked lolwtf version of Big Money.
The 5-diff one is not enough.
Even if $100 is bloody hard.
The 5-diff one is not enough.
Even if $100 is bloody hard.
MarioBound are you talking about this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/109928
(Also look at the tags: the big black freedom dive for the big money of atama no taisou featuring blue dragon yeah yeah woo woo dunna dunna dunna duna dunna dunna dunna skystar vocaloid attack on titan guren no yumiya shingeki no kyojin moe kawaii uguu the best 10/10 would hug )
I'm not sure if Blue Dragon actually intended for this to get ranked, but I think I remember him saying something about trying to make something that cookiezi couldn't FC, or something along those lines.
(Also look at the tags: the big black freedom dive for the big money of atama no taisou featuring blue dragon yeah yeah woo woo dunna dunna dunna duna dunna dunna dunna skystar vocaloid attack on titan guren no yumiya shingeki no kyojin moe kawaii uguu the best 10/10 would hug )
I'm not sure if Blue Dragon actually intended for this to get ranked, but I think I remember him saying something about trying to make something that cookiezi couldn't FC, or something along those lines.
no
cant you people let this thread rip in peace?
cant you people let this thread rip in peace?
oh FOR FUCKS SAKE
everytime someone posts scarlet rose in this topic i wish i could punch them through my screenZarerion wrote:
oh FOR FUCKS SAKE
you're forgetting scarlet black 4D [TAG4]silmarilen wrote:
everytime someone posts scarlet rose in this topic i wish i could punch them through my screenZarerion wrote:
oh FOR FUCKS SAKE
pfft yeah right, that has NOTHING on thissilmarilen wrote:
no man, this is totally the hardest map ive ever played
lol noobs here saying scarlet rose.
hardest map is obviously with a dance number or talent shredder.
hardest map is obviously with a dance number or talent shredder.
From ranked maps id say freedom dive, big black, ghost of 3,13 or image - material
Unranked the most impossible thing i have seen is lemon tree from MillhioreF, serious shit from cookiezi and some random vuvuzela shitmaps. Being possible to pass dunno, maybe some Aqo maps (i dont know very much about unrankeds XD)
PD: i still remember when i saw scarlet rose when i was starting and looked incredibly fast and hard. I cant pass it yet because my reading is shit, but doesnt impress my at all anymore xD
Unranked the most impossible thing i have seen is lemon tree from MillhioreF, serious shit from cookiezi and some random vuvuzela shitmaps. Being possible to pass dunno, maybe some Aqo maps (i dont know very much about unrankeds XD)
PD: i still remember when i saw scarlet rose when i was starting and looked incredibly fast and hard. I cant pass it yet because my reading is shit, but doesnt impress my at all anymore xD
Let's just make an objective list and lock the thread:
1: utage
2: four dimensions
The subjective 3rd place maps: rd likes girls/atama/night of knights/BARUSA of MIKOSU
Nothing else is hard to pass.
EDIT: Maybe AugoEidEs if you're accepting gimmick difficulty.
1: utage
2: four dimensions
The subjective 3rd place maps: rd likes girls/atama/night of knights/BARUSA of MIKOSU
Nothing else is hard to pass.
EDIT: Maybe AugoEidEs if you're accepting gimmick difficulty.
Argh...jesus1412 wrote:
EDIT: Maybe AugoEidEs if you're accepting gimmick difficulty.
That freaking spinner.
Desire Dream is way easier to pass than Augo, and even Augo is not that hard to pass.
if you can spin 390+ constantlyGoldenWolf wrote:
Augo is not that hard to pass.
and if you can FC the last stream before the spinner, which is my only problem. I cannot click that shitstream so i end up with 1/2 of my hp when the spinner starts
oh i forgot about that one stream right before it
i still hate that spinner
i still hate that spinner
I actually passed Desire Dream with HR, and almost passed Augo with HR.pielak213- wrote:
have you seen both played on hr with auto? they're both od8 btw
They're both OD8 but also only HP6, they're not that hard to pass nomod, gimmicky hard but not hard enough to fit in the "Hardest Beatmap Ever" category imo.
Soarezi
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
lol he can, rrtyui got 98+ acc untill he broke combo already once (about 1700 combo), and the map is just high bpm, it stil has more passes in a month than 4D has in a year
You do realize this is the same as "I can't hit cross screen jumps" or "I can't stream X bpm"?Soarezi wrote:
Some people cannot spin constantly high amounts, including me. I can't pass Augoeides no matter how good i play the map.
It's just another part of the game.
He could probably 1x100 itLily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
Soarezi
You do realize spinners don't have any rhythm to them, therefore they should not be in a rhythm game.lolcubes wrote:
You do realize this is the same as "I can't hit cross screen jumps" or "I can't stream X bpm"?Soarezi wrote:
Some people cannot spin constantly high amounts, including me. I can't pass Augoeides no matter how good i play the map.
It's just another part of the game.
No. Image material is easy.Lily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
270 BPM AR10 and it plays like a normal somewhat challenging map with half-time.jesus1412 wrote:
No. Image material is easy.Lily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
so easy.
Relative to the other maps mentioned, yes.Soulg wrote:
270 BPM AR10 and it plays like a normal somewhat challenging map with half-time.jesus1412 wrote:
No. Image material is easy.
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
so easy.
near constant 222 bpm deathstreams is still harder simply due to how easy it is to fuck up and miss a note and it spirals out of control.Lily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
Such a good statement supported by hard evidence =.='Soarezi wrote:
image material is easier than 4d
I can pass image material 90% of the time and could probably fc it with less than 1000 tries. It took me 1200 tries to pass 4d 3 times with C ranks.Lily-Kun wrote:
Such a good statement supported by hard evidence =.='Soarezi wrote:
image material is easier than 4d
They're not even in the same league.
jesus1412 wrote:
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
what about shotgun symphony?
2013 players like to say it's bad since it's not their common flowy AR10 map and is completely different from that, so they don't count itskiter43 wrote:
what about shotgun symphony?
yeah exactly, people nowadays only like flowy ar10, i mean look at the highest rated maps.Blue Dragon wrote:
2013 players like to say it's bad since it's not their common flowy AR10 map and is completely different from that, so they don't count itskiter43 wrote:
what about shotgun symphony?
I meant to say 'pro players', my badsilmarilen wrote:
yeah exactly, people nowadays only like flowy ar10, i mean look at the highest rated maps.
Even though the highest rated maps are either maps with no sense of spacing like pretender or retarded insanes like yousei no teikoku or renard maps, but let's not get into this
shotgun symphony is really a shittyass map though and you know it
Oh yeah, you bring that up but we must not get into it.Blue Dragon wrote:
Even though the highest rated maps are either maps with no sense of spacing like pretender or retarded insanes like yousei no teikoku or renard maps, but let's not get into this
Make sense.
Like pretender's spacing.
yeah, because everything different must suckAqo wrote:
shotgun symphony is really a shittyass map though and you know it
Was just saying that it doesn't make much sense to say that the highest rated maps aren't retardedGoldenWolf wrote:
Oh yeah, you bring that up but we must not get into it.Blue Dragon wrote:
Even though the highest rated maps are either maps with no sense of spacing like pretender or retarded insanes like yousei no teikoku or renard maps, but let's not get into this
Make sense.
Like pretender's spacing.
No, I actually agree with Aqo, Shotgun Symphony does suck but remember that it's a very old map.
It's also very easy relative to the other maps posted.Lily-Kun wrote:
No, I actually agree with Aqo, Shotgun Symphony does suck but remember that it's a very old map.
The king has spoken.
Shotgun Symphony is relatively hard, you just need to memorize it and that's it. It's also a shit map.
you very well know that "being different" is not the reason it's an awful map. stop derailing this BDBlue Dragon wrote:
yeah, because everything different must suckAqo wrote:
shotgun symphony is really a shittyass map though and you know it
idk, the patterns look pretty crappy to me, everytime i play it i can't flow with the beat/rhythmBlue Dragon wrote:
2013 players like to say it's bad since it's not their common flowy AR10 map and is completely different from that, so they don't count itskiter43 wrote:
what about shotgun symphony?
also those start sliders
don't forget people also rate maps depending on how popular the mapper is
I find something ironic about BD bashing hard maps and pro players
hmmm...
hmmm...
Shotgun Symphony+ was mapped for difficulty, and that's really about it. It does a pretty good job at that by having weird patterns that are the polar opposite of flow, and it's harder to nomod FC than even the likes of Big Black or Pluto. Passing is pretty easy though just because of the hp6 and relatively low note density.
Ontopic: This map should be the final boss of osu!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
Really fun mapPortalLife wrote:
Ontopic: This map should be the final boss of osu!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
And this is why I keep saying negative things about 2013 playersGoldenWolf wrote:
fun mapPortalLife wrote:
This map
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
I don't quite get what you mean; what does that have to do with any of things you've said about 2013 players
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played. If the map has a very fast flow, 200BPM and AR10, insta-favourite. Likes only maps from 7odoa, Saten, nold and a few others.Frostmourne wrote:
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical mappers: They're here to fullfill the players' needs of incredibly hard maps, so they forget about quality or following the song, for the sake of making a very hard map that players will hopefully like.
I apologize for being offensive, btw. It's just that it irks me that people can find something they can't even play the "best maps".
Wrong thread for doing it, so yeah, sorry.
BD, from what I've seen in 2013 you're completely wrong. I won't elaborate though, sicne you won't listen to me anyway.
Truth Final WordBlue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played. If the map has a very fast flow, 200BPM and AR10, insta-favourite. Likes only maps from 7odoa, Saten, nold and a few others.Frostmourne wrote:
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical mappers: They're here to fullfill the players' needs of incredibly hard maps, so they forget about quality or following the song, for the sake of making a very hard map that players will hopefully like.
Just because many people like to play my crazy map,And those map get many favourite...
My easy map always be ignore (No one remember my easy map...)
Btw,I usually play "Hard" diff and I'm relaxed player.
My easy map always be ignore (No one remember my easy map...)
Btw,I usually play "Hard" diff and I'm relaxed player.
Step 1. You see a circle on the screen.PortalLife wrote:
Teach me how to aim please GW
Step 2. You move your cursor to the circle.
Step 3. While aiming to the said circle, you look at the next circle incoming.
Rinse and repeat.
I can't disagree at all since it's true. Whatever, let's stop being off-topic then ~.~Blue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played. If the map has a very fast flow, 200BPM and AR10, insta-favourite. Likes only maps from 7odoa, Saten, nold and a few others.Frostmourne wrote:
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical mappers: They're here to fullfill the players' needs of incredibly hard maps, so they forget about quality or following the song, for the sake of making a very hard map that players will hopefully like.
I apologize for being offensive, btw. It's just that it irks me that people can find something they can't even play the "best maps".
Wrong thread for doing it, so yeah, sorry.
This might come as a shock to you, BD, but some people see osu as a video game and not as a jukebox and actually play for gameplay and not for listening to random songs they don't even like.Blue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played.
It's incredibly insulting for many mappers that you staple "high difficulty" as "lack of quality" (but at the same time you call shotgun symphony a good map? what.) when mappers this days strive to make high difficulty maps of a high quality as much as possible to make them enjoyable for the players who want to play high difficulty maps.
wow, so you enjoy playing easy maps. that's nice and all, but some people like challenging themselves and they don't play this game to listen to music, they already have winamp/foobar for that. You're very arrogant to think that you're the only one who's allowed to decide what are people allowed to have fun with. I don't get WHY or HOW you got the idea that mappers fulfilling the players' desires is a bad thing (isn't it the mapper's goal to create a fun map that people would want to play?) but you have to accept that stuff that is fun for you might be completely boring for somebody else and vica versa.
Had someone else been saying those things I'd understand, but you of all people are being a huge hypocrite for saying nonsense like this.
I can understand that there are ppl who play for difficulty and ppl who play for fun (as u called "jukebox").
Ppl who playing only for difficulty are hypocrite aswell, some of them were suggesting me to avoid map calm songs because its boring for them, I was just laughting.
BD is right in most cases about 2013 players.
Ppl who playing only for difficulty are hypocrite aswell, some of them were suggesting me to avoid map calm songs because its boring for them, I was just laughting.
BD is right in most cases about 2013 players.
As somebody who actually enjoys difficult maps and keeps in contact with people who play them, let me point out one huge flaw in BD's assumptions: most people prefer easy maps over hard ones.
He probably doesn't realize it because he's just going around being angry all day that his calm maps aren't getting as many plays as he wants; but the truth is that difficult maps are much more of a niche thing that very few players are interested in playing and the vast majority of osu spends a lot more time playing calm easy maps that they feel comfortable on.
One group might be more vocal than the other but it's very wrong to assume that all 2013 players only play hard maps and ignore calm songs.
He probably doesn't realize it because he's just going around being angry all day that his calm maps aren't getting as many plays as he wants; but the truth is that difficult maps are much more of a niche thing that very few players are interested in playing and the vast majority of osu spends a lot more time playing calm easy maps that they feel comfortable on.
One group might be more vocal than the other but it's very wrong to assume that all 2013 players only play hard maps and ignore calm songs.
Aqo wrote:
it's very wrong to assume that all 2013 players only play hard maps and ignore calm songs.
mhmBlue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players
It's inevitable that somebody who can actually plays hard maps would need very few tries to produce an FC or an otherwise satisfying play by their own standards on an easy map, while needing many tries to beat a truly hard map; so if you look at those people you might get the assumption they only play the hard maps all day because that's what you'll see them spending most of their time on - but in reality for every one hard map they play they also play 50 other easy maps.
I remember you said at one point that you're angry that people only remember maps you made like big black and airman while not remembering your easy ones, but guess what, somebody who FC'd an easy map in 10 minutes with DTHD isn't going to be left with a strong mark of it in his memory and he's not going to discuss it a lot later or keep retrying it after he already FC'd (or got the rank he wanted or whatever). It's not that he hated it, but you're not going to hear about it a lot.
If you're angry that people are not fav'ing calm songs and discussing them left and right then you're forgetting the most basic thing that osu is a video game and not a jukebox.
I remember you said at one point that you're angry that people only remember maps you made like big black and airman while not remembering your easy ones, but guess what, somebody who FC'd an easy map in 10 minutes with DTHD isn't going to be left with a strong mark of it in his memory and he's not going to discuss it a lot later or keep retrying it after he already FC'd (or got the rank he wanted or whatever). It's not that he hated it, but you're not going to hear about it a lot.
If you're angry that people are not fav'ing calm songs and discussing them left and right then you're forgetting the most basic thing that osu is a video game and not a jukebox.
Aqo, don't even bother arguing about this, it's pointless.
Not only he is wrong overall (most players are extremely bad and play easy maps forever) but is also not able to understand that some people find really entertaining to play hard stuff, and those players are usually the ones that do not suck, and when you don't suck you don't play easy maps because they bore you even more than watching random commercials on TV.
Also, you are breaking one of the golden Internet rules!!!
Not only he is wrong overall (most players are extremely bad and play easy maps forever) but is also not able to understand that some people find really entertaining to play hard stuff, and those players are usually the ones that do not suck, and when you don't suck you don't play easy maps because they bore you even more than watching random commercials on TV.
Also, you are breaking one of the golden Internet rules!!!
tl;dr "every easy map is boring, hard map rules, easy maps are for n00bs XDXXDDXXDXD"Wishy wrote:
Aqo, don't even bother arguing about this, it's pointless.
Not only he is wrong overall (most players are extremely bad and play easy maps forever) but is also not able to understand that some people find really entertaining to play hard stuff, and those players are usually the ones that do not suck, and when you don't suck you don't play easy maps because they bore you even more than watching random commercials on TV.
You're just proving what I said about you guys.~
Also, Aqo's post really does bring a point. However, I don't mean that "easy maps should be the center of the game", but that people should care more about following the song AND that there are some outstanding easier maps that are largely ignored simply because of the fact they are not hard enough. I didn't say all hard maps suck and that people should only play/discuss easy diffs.
Anyways, enough talking about this subject, we're not going anywhere. It's obvious that things will stay the way they are (as bad as it is).
Of course. Easy maps are extremely boring to me, hard maps are extremely fun to me, conclusion: I play hard maps. Map quality = challenging, fun to play, and maybe good looking for me. Some other people find map quality in something else like you do. I'd rather have a completely overmapped fun to play song than some perfectly mapped easy.
Games are for fun, if you have fun playing challenging stuff then that's what you are gonna play, and easy maps are not challenging at least you are half retarded or started playing this game a week ago.
Also, you are still wrong, most players are bad and play easy maps, thing is casuals don't really get into the forums and post, they just play, like in every game, so you won't see them here posting "qq that is too hard and ugly I LOVE THIS --> [Link to easy]".
Games are for fun, if you have fun playing challenging stuff then that's what you are gonna play, and easy maps are not challenging at least you are half retarded or started playing this game a week ago.
Also, you are still wrong, most players are bad and play easy maps, thing is casuals don't really get into the forums and post, they just play, like in every game, so you won't see them here posting "qq that is too hard and ugly I LOVE THIS --> [Link to easy]".
Mamoru Senpai
Shall I feel offended now because I started playing 2013 and play for challenging myself? x_x Pointless. My personal view: No matter what game I played, I tried always to challenge and improve myself. That's at one point not possible with only playing easier maps. And yes, I have more fun with focussing 100% on the game instead of waiting for clicking the next circle, while watching TV. When I start playing Osu! I do it because I want to play, not because I want to touch myself while playing.
*2013-trash out*
*2013-trash out*
...Wishy wrote:
I'd rather have a completely overmapped fun to play song than some perfectly mapped easy.
No.Wishy wrote:
Map quality = challenging
I can pass hard insanes like Ascension to Heaven by Zapy, but I still enjoy more calm maps, the same I enjoy more playing BD easier maps than his renards, airman etc.
Just saying there are ppl who have fun playing easier ones (but unfortunately 80% players care only about hard ones).
Mamoru Senpai
Take a look at the multiplayer lobbys and you'll see how many people are playing hard ones and how many playing easy ones. Just saying.Tidek wrote:
No.Wishy wrote:
Map quality = challenging
I can pass hard insanes like Ascension to Heaven by Zapy, but I still enjoy more calm maps, the same I enjoy more playing BD easier maps than his renards, airman etc.
Just saying there are ppl who have fun playing easier ones (but unfortunately 80% players care only about hard ones).
Most good players don't play in multi though
why doesnt anybody mention scarlet rose?
You know, the point is, Ellie Goulding - Burn by Ultimate is an OUTSTANDING map, it is INCREDIBLY good and fun.
I say that as a mapper and modder.
But when I'm actually playing I strive to become better. And since I won't improve all that much from playing that map, since I can already FC it, I most likely won't play it except for some random plays when F2 spits it out and I'm like "oh that map, might as well play it rn" after ranking on it.
I say that as a mapper and modder.
But when I'm actually playing I strive to become better. And since I won't improve all that much from playing that map, since I can already FC it, I most likely won't play it except for some random plays when F2 spits it out and I'm like "oh that map, might as well play it rn" after ranking on it.
Mamoru Senpai
Idk, I know more people who are hanging on hards for about 1 year than people who are playing really difficult stuff to improve themselves. Anyway, you don't need to care about what people prefer to play. And you don't have the right to complain about it. It's their business and you have to deal with it.GoldenWolf wrote:
Most good players don't play in multi though
People are playing with different intentions, that's a fact. So get used to it.
For me, map quality means that the map is fun, to be fun it has to be challenging. But that's just me, even if you submit the best map ever and get it ranked if it's very easy I'm gonna call it BORING.Tidek wrote:
No.Wishy wrote:
Map quality = challenging
I can pass hard insanes like Ascension to Heaven by Zapy, but I still enjoy more calm maps, the same I enjoy more playing BD easier maps than his renards, airman etc.
Just saying there are ppl who have fun playing easier ones (but unfortunately 80% players care only about hard ones).
Some people just don't have fun by playing easy stuff, that's it.
The biggest issue is that making a hard map that fits well is SO hard.
If I listed all the hard but actually impressively done maps, my list would be rather short. It's not that people don't want to follow the song, they just can't.
EDIT: And they never could, the only difference now is that there are more people who want hard maps in 2013.
If I listed all the hard but actually impressively done maps, my list would be rather short. It's not that people don't want to follow the song, they just can't.
EDIT: And they never could, the only difference now is that there are more people who want hard maps in 2013.
scarlet rose is hardest map
Im pretty sure my "imagine" statistics are close to truth ; )enik wrote:
StatisticsTidek wrote:
80%
About multiplayer, some1 already say that most better players dont spend time in multi.