True... The stream spacing is wider in the last section of 4d when you have to literally accelerate the speed of your cursor[AirCoN] wrote:
exactly. streaming 222bpm continuously isn't that hard once you hit that level, which is about most of top 1000 or 500 in pp i bet. it's the spacing of the streams that fails almost everyone
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i find the streams that twist and sharp bends to be harder than those spaced ones
Looked thought most of the thread, but I'm kinda surprised no one mentioned Savage Garden - I Want You
This is candidate one of the hardest maps, in my opinion. (which just a handful of full combo's)
Another one worth mentioning is a Kirby Mix, being quite old still only has 1 FC.
Basshunter - Ievan Polkka Trance Remix
This is candidate one of the hardest maps, in my opinion. (which just a handful of full combo's)
Another one worth mentioning is a Kirby Mix, being quite old still only has 1 FC.
Basshunter - Ievan Polkka Trance Remix
1- pp is shit.[AirCoN] wrote:
exactly. streaming 222bpm continuously isn't that hard once you hit that level, which is about most of top 1000 or 500 in pp i bet. it's the spacing of the streams that fails almost everyone
2- Most people can't stream 222 BPM.
3- Even between those who can, most have not enough stamina to do it through the whole map.
4- Even between those who can endure that intensive streaming, most can't follow those streams properly.
That's how it is. :p
Shadow:
Both those maps are very old and use a style that most people now don't really play at all (old maps = few plays too). I Want You = very low AR and non-sense jumps, Ievan Polkka is nicely mapped yet again it uses a low AR (was it 7?). That Kirby's map in fact has no FC, White Wolf got a slider break iirc. They are all old scores anyways I'm quite sure top players can FC that map if they practice it long enough, which is not possible on maps like Freedom Dive, Kokou no Sousei or Atama (imo). Nevertheless yeah they are very hard ones.
hard to fc doesn't necessarily mean it's hard overall
if the map is easy to pass, but hard to fc, then it means that the difficultysettings are ridiculously low (AngeHoney does that often). or that there are some nasty patterns that are hard to fc, in which this statement is true.buny wrote:
hard to fc doesn't necessarily mean it's hard overall
Both those maps have pretty much some nasty patterns that are just very hard to hit even while the rest of the map is quite doable.
So why is Lemon Tree seen as such a hard map? It doesn't seem all that hard. Granted, I probably couldn't pass it, but it doesn't seem as "impossible" as people make it out to be.
My vote for hardest map still goes out to awp's extra Impossibly Intense diff in Shotgun Symphony. Someone finally SS'd it a month ago with EZ mod.
My vote for hardest map still goes out to awp's extra Impossibly Intense diff in Shotgun Symphony. Someone finally SS'd it a month ago with EZ mod.
they're talking about the unranked lemon tree
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57878# I guess this is the reupload of the map
they're not even playable.. why mention them.
bieg plak
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/52487Stefan wrote:
bieg plak
Seriously? Why do people keep insisting on making "lololol unbeatable" maps? Phoenix Wright's Breakdown, the countless Vuvuzela maps and Trap Card sort-of did it right, but this is just stupid.Tanzklaue wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57878# I guess this is the reupload of the map
Lemon Tree was originally the first map to ever do that, iirc. And it's so 'special' because it was a random noob who made it, and it turned out to be an April Fools joke when staff members decided to approve Lemon Tree on April 1st. The map got deleted though, that's just a reupload.
onotoleonide
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/93050
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she_old
see posts like this are the reason why people hate necro'sSuperCuteGirl wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/93050
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not only is it an unranked map and therefor it doesnt contribute at all, but it isnt even the hardest unranked map.
your post has no meaning.
As of this point I can safely conclude that four dimensions is the hardest ranked map. Everything else is passable to me.
she_old
the hardest beatmaps are the ones posted in the era of which OP posted in
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/41686
I think this is the hardest. *^*
I think this is the hardest. *^*
There's a map which has been approved lately, so I would say it's sort of new, and the treacherous difficulty can be put into comparison with 4d.
---> Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0>
First of all, it's clear that you have to be able to read and play AR10.
The high BPM makes it difficult for mainstream players to tackle. Especially the few long streams in there.
The absence of break times and the length of the song makes consistency essential.
That's what I see, although so I still think 4d would take the win~ :3
---> Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0>
First of all, it's clear that you have to be able to read and play AR10.
The high BPM makes it difficult for mainstream players to tackle. Especially the few long streams in there.
The absence of break times and the length of the song makes consistency essential.
That's what I see, although so I still think 4d would take the win~ :3
That map is SO easy compared. 4d makes this look like the easiest map ever.AkoSuminoe wrote:
There's a map which has been approved lately, so I would say it's sort of new, and the treacherous difficulty can be put into comparison with 4d.
---> Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0>
First of all, it's clear that you have to be able to read and play AR10.
The high BPM makes it difficult for mainstream players to tackle. Especially the few long streams in there.
The absence of break times and the length of the song makes consistency essential.
That's what I see, although so I still think 4d would take the win~ :3
Literally. Well you have a point there.jesus1412 wrote:
That map is SO easy compared. 4d makes this look like the easiest map ever.AkoSuminoe wrote:
There's a map which has been approved lately, so I would say it's sort of new, and the treacherous difficulty can be put into comparison with 4d.
---> Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0>
First of all, it's clear that you have to be able to read and play AR10.
The high BPM makes it difficult for mainstream players to tackle. Especially the few long streams in there.
The absence of break times and the length of the song makes consistency essential.
That's what I see, although so I still think 4d would take the win~ :3
how about the U.N. Owen nico megamix TAG4? it's impossible to FC even cookiezi can't do it.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7385Koko Ban wrote:
how about the U.N. Owen nico megamix TAG4? it's impossible to FC even cookiezi can't do it.
Cookiezi also couldn't pass this without NoFail yet Jesse did it. Jesse for #1 osu! player!
JAKACHAN wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7385Koko Ban wrote:
how about the U.N. Owen nico megamix TAG4? it's impossible to FC even cookiezi can't do it.
Cookiezi also couldn't pass this without NoFail yet Jesse did it. Jesse for #1 osu! player!
4d makes this look like the easiest map ever.wtf exaggerations
but yes 4d is still hardest (not counting tag4 maps because duh)
Big blackjesus1412 wrote:
Not including troll maps (like the above xD) Freedom Dive (4 Dimensions) is without a doubt the hardest map in the game! Compared to that, all TAG4 maps seem passable (well, not to me, but to people who can actually play this game xD).
TAG4 maps are relatively easy to pass since they have very low HP Drain, playing them correctly is another matter though.Artaxerx wrote:
Not including troll maps (like the above xD) Freedom Dive (4 Dimensions) is without a doubt the hardest map in the game! Compared to that, all TAG4 maps seem passable (well, not to me, but to people who can actually play this game xD).
TAG4 maps are all kind of the hardest maps in the game by far (talking about ranked) imo.
Only utage is harder to pass than 4d, the other tag4's are pretty easy too.
Well that's true, most TAG maps are about 1 or 2 hard parts (if you just want to clear). But all of them are harder to FC than 4D imo.
why does this thread just keep coming back
because some random person that cant even pass insanes plays a map he cant pass and thinks "wow this must be the hardest map ever"
gee williker guys have you heard about the big black? that map is really hard 
Kodora
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/7671
heh, still hardest - noone S it nomod :\awp wrote:
Apparently someone got to the first break in Shotgun Symphony [Impossibly Intense] but nobody's even come close to getting halfway through that map.
Using half-time I got pretty close to the first break but couldn't make it.
#3 nomod score
But yeah, shotgun symphony is probably the hardest in terms of complexity in patterns (4d is just hard because high bpm and long/huge streams).
But yeah, shotgun symphony is probably the hardest in terms of complexity in patterns (4d is just hard because high bpm and long/huge streams).
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How did it not get excludedB-52 wrote:
Excluding all the maps that were made for watching Auto playing, Big Money would be the hardest
2211178
Well, theoretically Big Money is at least mapped for human... some maps like this is the most eggpain map you've ever seen is not, and I'm pretty much talking about excluding them.Aqo wrote:
How did it not get excludedB-52 wrote:
Excluding all the maps that were made for watching Auto playing, Big Money would be the hardest
Someone should map a ranked lolwtf version of Big Money.
The 5-diff one is not enough.
Even if $100 is bloody hard.
The 5-diff one is not enough.
Even if $100 is bloody hard.
MarioBound are you talking about this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/109928
(Also look at the tags: the big black freedom dive for the big money of atama no taisou featuring blue dragon yeah yeah woo woo dunna dunna dunna duna dunna dunna dunna skystar vocaloid attack on titan guren no yumiya shingeki no kyojin moe kawaii uguu the best 10/10 would hug )
I'm not sure if Blue Dragon actually intended for this to get ranked, but I think I remember him saying something about trying to make something that cookiezi couldn't FC, or something along those lines.
(Also look at the tags: the big black freedom dive for the big money of atama no taisou featuring blue dragon yeah yeah woo woo dunna dunna dunna duna dunna dunna dunna skystar vocaloid attack on titan guren no yumiya shingeki no kyojin moe kawaii uguu the best 10/10 would hug )
I'm not sure if Blue Dragon actually intended for this to get ranked, but I think I remember him saying something about trying to make something that cookiezi couldn't FC, or something along those lines.
no
cant you people let this thread rip in peace?
cant you people let this thread rip in peace?
oh FOR FUCKS SAKE
everytime someone posts scarlet rose in this topic i wish i could punch them through my screenZarerion wrote:
oh FOR FUCKS SAKE
you're forgetting scarlet black 4D [TAG4]silmarilen wrote:
everytime someone posts scarlet rose in this topic i wish i could punch them through my screenZarerion wrote:
oh FOR FUCKS SAKE
pfft yeah right, that has NOTHING on thissilmarilen wrote:
no man, this is totally the hardest map ive ever played
lol noobs here saying scarlet rose.
hardest map is obviously with a dance number or talent shredder.
hardest map is obviously with a dance number or talent shredder.
From ranked maps id say freedom dive, big black, ghost of 3,13 or image - material
Unranked the most impossible thing i have seen is lemon tree from MillhioreF, serious shit from cookiezi and some random vuvuzela shitmaps. Being possible to pass dunno, maybe some Aqo maps (i dont know very much about unrankeds XD)
PD: i still remember when i saw scarlet rose when i was starting and looked incredibly fast and hard. I cant pass it yet because my reading is shit, but doesnt impress my at all anymore xD
Unranked the most impossible thing i have seen is lemon tree from MillhioreF, serious shit from cookiezi and some random vuvuzela shitmaps. Being possible to pass dunno, maybe some Aqo maps (i dont know very much about unrankeds XD)
PD: i still remember when i saw scarlet rose when i was starting and looked incredibly fast and hard. I cant pass it yet because my reading is shit, but doesnt impress my at all anymore xD
Let's just make an objective list and lock the thread:
1: utage
2: four dimensions
The subjective 3rd place maps: rd likes girls/atama/night of knights/BARUSA of MIKOSU
Nothing else is hard to pass.
EDIT: Maybe AugoEidEs if you're accepting gimmick difficulty.
1: utage
2: four dimensions
The subjective 3rd place maps: rd likes girls/atama/night of knights/BARUSA of MIKOSU
Nothing else is hard to pass.
EDIT: Maybe AugoEidEs if you're accepting gimmick difficulty.
Argh...jesus1412 wrote:
EDIT: Maybe AugoEidEs if you're accepting gimmick difficulty.
That freaking spinner.
Desire Dream is way easier to pass than Augo, and even Augo is not that hard to pass.
if you can spin 390+ constantlyGoldenWolf wrote:
Augo is not that hard to pass.
and if you can FC the last stream before the spinner, which is my only problem. I cannot click that shitstream so i end up with 1/2 of my hp when the spinner starts
oh i forgot about that one stream right before it
i still hate that spinner
i still hate that spinner
I actually passed Desire Dream with HR, and almost passed Augo with HR.pielak213- wrote:
have you seen both played on hr with auto? they're both od8 btw
They're both OD8 but also only HP6, they're not that hard to pass nomod, gimmicky hard but not hard enough to fit in the "Hardest Beatmap Ever" category imo.
Soarezi
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
lol he can, rrtyui got 98+ acc untill he broke combo already once (about 1700 combo), and the map is just high bpm, it stil has more passes in a month than 4D has in a year
You do realize this is the same as "I can't hit cross screen jumps" or "I can't stream X bpm"?Soarezi wrote:
Some people cannot spin constantly high amounts, including me. I can't pass Augoeides no matter how good i play the map.
It's just another part of the game.
He could probably 1x100 itLily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
Soarezi
You do realize spinners don't have any rhythm to them, therefore they should not be in a rhythm game.lolcubes wrote:
You do realize this is the same as "I can't hit cross screen jumps" or "I can't stream X bpm"?Soarezi wrote:
Some people cannot spin constantly high amounts, including me. I can't pass Augoeides no matter how good i play the map.
It's just another part of the game.
No. Image material is easy.Lily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
270 BPM AR10 and it plays like a normal somewhat challenging map with half-time.jesus1412 wrote:
No. Image material is easy.Lily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
so easy.
Relative to the other maps mentioned, yes.Soulg wrote:
270 BPM AR10 and it plays like a normal somewhat challenging map with half-time.jesus1412 wrote:
No. Image material is easy.
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
so easy.
near constant 222 bpm deathstreams is still harder simply due to how easy it is to fuck up and miss a note and it spirals out of control.Lily-Kun wrote:
I'm inclined to say Image Material is harder than FDive [4d] because of it's insane 270bpm throughout the whole map. I doubt even Cookiezi can get above 99% on that...
Such a good statement supported by hard evidence =.='Soarezi wrote:
image material is easier than 4d
I can pass image material 90% of the time and could probably fc it with less than 1000 tries. It took me 1200 tries to pass 4d 3 times with C ranks.Lily-Kun wrote:
Such a good statement supported by hard evidence =.='Soarezi wrote:
image material is easier than 4d
They're not even in the same league.
jesus1412 wrote:
My post is the only objective post in this thread, I am the king of gameplay and rankings. Listen to me, my subjects.
what about shotgun symphony?
2013 players like to say it's bad since it's not their common flowy AR10 map and is completely different from that, so they don't count itskiter43 wrote:
what about shotgun symphony?
yeah exactly, people nowadays only like flowy ar10, i mean look at the highest rated maps.Blue Dragon wrote:
2013 players like to say it's bad since it's not their common flowy AR10 map and is completely different from that, so they don't count itskiter43 wrote:
what about shotgun symphony?
I meant to say 'pro players', my badsilmarilen wrote:
yeah exactly, people nowadays only like flowy ar10, i mean look at the highest rated maps.
Even though the highest rated maps are either maps with no sense of spacing like pretender or retarded insanes like yousei no teikoku or renard maps, but let's not get into this
shotgun symphony is really a shittyass map though and you know it
Oh yeah, you bring that up but we must not get into it.Blue Dragon wrote:
Even though the highest rated maps are either maps with no sense of spacing like pretender or retarded insanes like yousei no teikoku or renard maps, but let's not get into this
Make sense.
Like pretender's spacing.
yeah, because everything different must suckAqo wrote:
shotgun symphony is really a shittyass map though and you know it
Was just saying that it doesn't make much sense to say that the highest rated maps aren't retardedGoldenWolf wrote:
Oh yeah, you bring that up but we must not get into it.Blue Dragon wrote:
Even though the highest rated maps are either maps with no sense of spacing like pretender or retarded insanes like yousei no teikoku or renard maps, but let's not get into this
Make sense.
Like pretender's spacing.
No, I actually agree with Aqo, Shotgun Symphony does suck but remember that it's a very old map.
It's also very easy relative to the other maps posted.Lily-Kun wrote:
No, I actually agree with Aqo, Shotgun Symphony does suck but remember that it's a very old map.
The king has spoken.
Shotgun Symphony is relatively hard, you just need to memorize it and that's it. It's also a shit map.
you very well know that "being different" is not the reason it's an awful map. stop derailing this BDBlue Dragon wrote:
yeah, because everything different must suckAqo wrote:
shotgun symphony is really a shittyass map though and you know it
idk, the patterns look pretty crappy to me, everytime i play it i can't flow with the beat/rhythmBlue Dragon wrote:
2013 players like to say it's bad since it's not their common flowy AR10 map and is completely different from that, so they don't count itskiter43 wrote:
what about shotgun symphony?
also those start sliders
don't forget people also rate maps depending on how popular the mapper is
I find something ironic about BD bashing hard maps and pro players
hmmm...
hmmm...
Shotgun Symphony+ was mapped for difficulty, and that's really about it. It does a pretty good job at that by having weird patterns that are the polar opposite of flow, and it's harder to nomod FC than even the likes of Big Black or Pluto. Passing is pretty easy though just because of the hp6 and relatively low note density.
Ontopic: This map should be the final boss of osu!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
Really fun mapPortalLife wrote:
Ontopic: This map should be the final boss of osu!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
And this is why I keep saying negative things about 2013 playersGoldenWolf wrote:
fun mapPortalLife wrote:
This map
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
I don't quite get what you mean; what does that have to do with any of things you've said about 2013 players
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played. If the map has a very fast flow, 200BPM and AR10, insta-favourite. Likes only maps from 7odoa, Saten, nold and a few others.Frostmourne wrote:
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical mappers: They're here to fullfill the players' needs of incredibly hard maps, so they forget about quality or following the song, for the sake of making a very hard map that players will hopefully like.
I apologize for being offensive, btw. It's just that it irks me that people can find something they can't even play the "best maps".
Wrong thread for doing it, so yeah, sorry.
BD, from what I've seen in 2013 you're completely wrong. I won't elaborate though, sicne you won't listen to me anyway.