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Topic Starter
Guy-kun
T-Aiko! is a free Taiko no Tatsujin game that plays osu! beatmaps and has been going strong for 4 years!

Features include:
+Online scoreboards and profiles with global ranks (Separate to osu! accounts)
+Daily selected 'competitive' maps
+Local score saving
+Direct links to beatmaps
+1080p grafix
+Many other things I can't be bothered to type up

Download from Google Play

Download from App Store

Enjoy!



OzzyOzrock
This is wrong! All is wrong! I am fan of taiko but is wrong! I am not big notess??!?!?

:D I don't have an Android but good luck with making this awesome.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Oh how I into English!?!?! I AM big notes!
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Updated with 20x more aids
Zhanger_old
very cool ^^ I like the menu. playing on a nexus one.

will this be open source by any chance? i'm curious about how this is made (namely rendering)
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
The menu still needs a lot of work, it's far from done, like most things in the game.

I don't have any plans to make it open source as the code isn't extremely tidy (although it is well commented if anyone were to ever help me on it).
But if you wanted to take a look, I'd be fine to show you, I can give you repository access.
Zhanger_old

Guy-kun wrote:

The menu still needs a lot of work, it's far from done, like most things in the game.

I don't have any plans to make it open source as the code isn't extremely tidy (although it is well commented if anyone were to ever help me on it).
But if you wanted to take a look, I'd be fine to show you, I can give you repository access.
probably not as bad as me, my code sprawls everywhere >_> but yes, I would love to take a look :O
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Okay then, pm me so I remember.
Roga-don
Wow it's a great job for your first beta ! I remember the taikosanjiro game that was really buggy on the android :lol:
Can't wait for a stable version of it ! :3
But I've got an HTC Desire, so shitty touchscreen :cry:
foulcoon
Testing with Samsung Epic 4G:

Game crashes during refreshing if you start with a gigantic songs folder :P

Rarely got any songs to sync properly, but thats to be expected with an alpha stage project.

Skip button stays there throughout the entire song, and pressing anywhere on the top of the screen (not just the skip button) causes the song to "skip" to the start point of the song.
eldnl
Good idea but, T-aiko is not a good name :<
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

foulcoon wrote:

Game crashes during refreshing if you start with a gigantic songs folder :P
Yeah... I haven't ever tested it with more than about 10 songs.

foulcoon wrote:

Skip button stays there throughout the entire song, and pressing anywhere on the top of the screen (not just the skip button) causes the song to "skip" to the start point of the song.
Yup, skip is generally broken, it worked at one point but I broke it...

eldnl wrote:

T-aiko is not a good name :<
My opinion > *
Zhanger_old

foulcoon wrote:

Skip button stays there throughout the entire song
I don't get that oO nexus one.
foulcoon

Zhanger wrote:

foulcoon wrote:

Skip button stays there throughout the entire song
I don't get that oO nexus one.
Were you playing a song that actually had a skip button? because I'm pretty sure it happened to everyone song I played that needed a skip button.
Zhanger_old

foulcoon wrote:

Were you playing a song that actually had a skip button? because I'm pretty sure it happened to everyone song I played that needed a skip button.
yup. although, if I don't skip, the button just stays there even while playing, and upon touching it goes to the beginning p:

on a side note, in game downloads coming \:D/
foulcoon
thats exactly what I posted in the first place

I just assumed that people didn't push the skip button because the OP specifically says not to push the skip button
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
It'll be sorted next build, a lot of timing corrections and fixes are in place, may have to re-write this thread not to be pesimistic.
wmfchris
a run in neo Xperia

- timing ._.
- can't read more than 1 BG per map
- only give red notes
- broken taiko slider
foulcoon

wmfchris wrote:

a run in neo Xperia

- timing ._.
- can't read more than 1 BG per map
- only give red notes
- broken taiko slider
yeah, i think he knows

read the first post next time
Roga-don
Any update ? ;_;
It looked so cool ! I hope you'll finish it !
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Don't worry about it, a lot of work has been and will be done. Timing for maps has been pretty much solved, ka's are now in the right place and a lot more is to come.
MMzz
Looks fun, i'll have to get it when all the kinks are worked out.

Also regarding to the front post: "HTC devices also suck, your touchscreens miss rapid touch events, tough."
My HTC EVO never does anything like this when I play stepmania / random games that require rapid tapping (Like tap so many times to charge something)
Roga-don

MMzz wrote:

Also regarding to the front post: "HTC devices also suck, your touchscreens miss rapid touch events, tough."
My HTC EVO never does anything like this when I play stepmania / random games that require rapid tapping (Like tap so many times to charge something)
My HTC Desire does... And it really sucks D:
Does someone know the reason of it ?
lepidopodus
:DDD
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

Roga-don wrote:

MMzz wrote:

Also regarding to the front post: "HTC devices also suck, your touchscreens miss rapid touch events, tough."
My HTC EVO never does anything like this when I play stepmania / random games that require rapid tapping (Like tap so many times to charge something)
My HTC Desire does... And it really sucks D:
Does someone know the reason of it ?
I've never got to the bottom of it, it happened on my Desire HD and whatever peppy tested on too.
If you write a simple piece of code to output taps and their count in debugger and tap various rhythms at various speeds, some taps will be missed. It really does seem like a hardware issue.
Doesn't happen at all on any other devices AFAIK
Musty
i've a Little Screen, so hard to play :SS
Saeris
You should team-up with Pesets:>
Slih
parsing failure ... :( ...
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Try a different map
Zelos
I sincerely hope you do work out everything to make an epic Taiko app.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
No-one's interested, latest version that fixes many things isn't even released.
Backfire
Who isn't interested? I am :(
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
That makes one. Want the new version?
Roga-don
I AM interested.
Cheer up and make us a great game 8-)
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Hmmmm, maybe I'll carry on one day.
Here's the latest version:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bc51vwrrm9w9w2h
Backfire
It crashed when I started playing geishas dream.
Playing on droid x ;-;
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Link me the map and difficulty, I might take a look <:
Backfire
Zelos
Please do continue ;_; people aren't super interested at first because it still says Alpha and such. I swear once you get things going it will have more interest.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Hmmmm, I think I will actually, I've finally fixed it up for smaller resolutions and once sliders are fixed, it may be time for a Beta bump and possibly a market release.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

Backfire wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/28766
Here.
I've actually fixed this, thanks for that.
Zelos

Guy-kun wrote:

Hmmmm, I think I will actually, I've finally fixed it up for smaller resolutions and once sliders are fixed, it may be time for a Beta bump and possibly a market release.
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuu <3
palion
I'll help out, like I said. Speaking of which, if it is ever released to market, we would have to inform the beatmap mirror :p
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Y-yeaaaaah. Youdothat.
Jalatiphra
i hope you finish that game so i have a reason to buy an android :)
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Done a lot of work on sliders(rolls) today together with Srbija as well as a song-select overhaul.
A much more polished Beta may be on its way soon <:
Backfire
You fixed it? Well shit man gimme the .apk im ready to play c:
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
That map is fixed, yeah. Wait till tomorrow where we'll have rolls in a much better state and I'll probably put out another apk <:
Zelos
Yessssssssss.
Ririz_old
Wow great work! Can't wait till final release :)
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Something to whet some appetites:



Zelos
There are a few little bugs that I wanna point out (Not sure if this has been pointed out already because im to lazy to read back.)

1: TaikOsu maps that have 1/4th kick back sliders which should show up as kkk (or any other pattern) but instead they show up as short drum rolls.
2: After leaving TaikOsu, lets say I start up another up which has the average black screen loading time, the T-Aiko main screen is there until the app itself loads. (I used appkiller to end T-Aiko to see if this issue would fix but regardless that main screen was still there)
Srbija_old

Zelos wrote:

1: TaikOsu maps that have 1/4th kick back sliders which should show up as kkk (or any other pattern) but instead they show up as short drum rolls.
Slider ticks are fixed now (they appear same as in osu! taiko mode), although still all sliders in osu! mode appear as sliders in T-Aiko. We will work on making sliders of total length shorter than 2 beats to become dons and kats instead (like osu! taiko mode).
OnosakiHito
немој зезати да ити ту нештo правиш?? :3
Требамо да се видимо у србију. Стварно. хаха
Баш је интересанто ста радис.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

Zelos wrote:

1: TaikOsu maps that have 1/4th kick back sliders which should show up as kkk (or any other pattern) but instead they show up as short drum rolls.
Yep, It'll come in due to time, It's planned

Zelos wrote:

After leaving TaikOsu, lets say I start up another up which has the average black screen loading time, the T-Aiko main screen is there until the app itself loads. (I used appkiller to end T-Aiko to see if this issue would fix but regardless that main screen was still there)
It sounds like an excuse and I hate saying things like this, but I think this is out of my control. Its up to android what is shown while a new app is loading, and this has never happened to me on my phone, so It's likely to be to do with whatever phone provider/manufacture skin of android you have.

If you give me some phone details, I can try it out in emulator, but that's about all I can do. Things like model, android OS version, maybe carrier.

OnosakiHito wrote:

немој зезати да ити ту нештo правиш?? :3
Требамо да се видимо у србију. Стварно. хаха
Баш је интересанто ста радис.
I hate this, when I can read it, but it makes absolutely no sense. Why oh why must there be multiple languages that use cyrillic letters.
OnosakiHito
@Guy-kun: Russia, Ukraina, Serbia/macedonia, not so multiple at all. There are not more countrys who use cyrillic in this way. So please don't say it makes no sense. lol
Anyway, I just said, I was wondering that srbija is also involved in this project. Good luck with this nice project.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
More than one use of it is multiple to me, plus it was to me that it makes no sense. It's all my opinion y'know.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
If anyone is interested in helping, feel free to PM me, I'm doing a lot of work on this now so it is a fast-moving project:
Zelos

Guy-kun wrote:

If you give me some phone details, I can try it out in emulator, but that's about all I can do. Things like model, android OS version, maybe carrier.
T-Mobile G2x
Procssor: 1 GHz Dual-Core ARM Cortex-A9
Anrdoid OS 2.3.3 Gingerbread
GPU: ULP GeForce 300 MHz
Instruction Set:ARMv7
RAM: 512 MB

Is that enough info to work with?

Guy-kun wrote:

If anyone is interested in helping, feel free to PM me, I'm doing a lot of work on this now so it is a fast-moving project:
What kind of help?
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

Zelos wrote:

Is that enough info to work with?
What kind of help?
Should, be I'll have a try.
What can you do? <:


Another VERY WIP in-game screenshot

Zelos
All I suppose I could do is test test and more testing.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

Zelos wrote:

All I suppose I could do is test test and more testing.
Sure, it'd be useful. PM me when you're free.
Kathunx

Guy-kun wrote:

Zelos wrote:

All I suppose I could do is test test and more testing.
Sure, it'd be useful. PM me when you're free.
PM sent!
MMzz
I gotta question, how in the world do I install maps, I got the app and such, I know whow to download maps but I don't know how to install them to the game.
/noob
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

MMzz wrote:

I gotta question, how in the world do I install maps, I got the app and such, I know whow to download maps but I don't know how to install them to the game.
/noob
place them on your SD-card in /T-aiko/Songs (place .osz files here or beatmap directories)
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
It's been a long time in getting here, (more than it may seem), but T-Aiko! is finally on the market!
I hope that this growth can now be continued steadily!

Get it on your mobile or here: https://market.android.com/details?id=guy.taiko
Dai
oh finally
Backfire
Uhh why doesent the download map button work?
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

Backfire wrote:

Uhh why doesent the download map button work?
As said in the app description, coming soon.
I've yet to agree with a mirror to allow DDL (officially)
alexchan420
Can the map location be set manually?
I don't want the map get duplicated once more with the osu!droid T.T
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

alexchan420 wrote:

Can the map location be set manually?
I don't want the map get duplicated once more with the osu!droid T.T
Yep, this was already on my todo list, sorry that it wasn't done already.
I'll detect the osu!droid directory and ask if you want to use it's songs folder next version.

In the meantime, if you like, you can move your maps into the T-Aiko songs folder and set the osu!droid folder manually to point to it (since it already has this functionality)
Vext_old
Oh dear, I installed it on my Thunderbolt and it was going great, but the longer I played the more it lagged until everything pretty much froze and it took 5 minutes to even exit out of it.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun

Vext wrote:

Oh dear, I installed it on my Thunderbolt and it was going great, but the longer I played the more it lagged until everything pretty much froze and it took 5 minutes to even exit out of it.
What map was this?
This is extremely surprising since it runs smoothly on MUCH weaker phones, including the pitiful android emulator.

If your phone has trouble exiting something, it's most likely to do with your OS.
Vext_old
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36884

Well, it wasn't just the exiting. I was going good, but then I noticed my presses were lagging a bit and little by little over the map it got worse until the frame rate dropped and it was jumping ahead randomly and the feedback was the same. So I paused to exit and it took a few mins to even get out of T-aiko. Once I closed it and started back up it was fine though, I am afraid to try it again though haha. The music kept going perfectly fine though.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Very odd, sounds like something was going on with your phone if anything, tell me if it does carry on happening, could circumstances of some sort.
I tested all the difficulties on that map and they were perfectly fine, so the map isn't to blame.
Vext_old
Well I tried another diff. and same problem, tried another couple maps and they worked fine, dunno why that map hates me but oh well. Other than that seems solid, the red center drum hits are incredibly unresponsive for me though, if I hit near the outer half it doesn't always take it and if I use 2 fingers or thumbs it doesn't read the taps fast enough, and if I go to a certain speed of tapping it just doesn't accept any of it. (Blue hits were perfect and worked for as fast as I was able to tap though which is why it seems odd)
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Are you definitely sure that blue hits work fine? I used to have a similar issue when I had a HTC Desire HD and struggled to no end with it, testing it in every way, it turned out that the phone was just not registering rapid successive taps sometimes (especially in a certain rhythm, it'd miss a touch or two every so often).
I've never heard of this on any other device than HTC phones.

I tested this by logging raw touch events after tapping a rhythm I knew involved a certain number of touches and finding some were missing.

Shame about that map for you... Worked fine for me <:
Vext_old
Yep, I was tapping blues as fast as I could to see if it worked and they were firing about as fast as I stream on standard and registering just fine. The red on the other hand will not work that way and actually seem to get slower in response to me going faster. More than 1 finger absolutely screws with it. If my camera wasn't my phone I'd show you what it's doing heh. It is possibly due to the blues being on opposite sections of the screen, while the drum for red is center, the multi-touch might be reading them as one press, unsure though.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
If you're curious enough to find out, I could give you a debug build with blue/red swapped (as confusing as this would be) to see if it really is regions of the screen that have trouble?
Might bring peace-of-mind <:
Vext_old
I would be willing to give it a shot if you'd like, might have to walk me through it a bit though.

EDIT: Tomorrow, I need to get to bed right now for class tomorrow, lots of finals, oh the excitement. PM if you like.
Natteke
How do you quit the game without having to press the home button and killing the game process? D:
(HTC Desire S here)
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Are you asking how to end the game process or saying that the process is killed when you press the home button?
Natteke
Basically, add a "Quit" button or something that would end the game process
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
This would be a bad idea.
By Android application fundamentals, you do not 'quit' your app. You send it to the background and let the OS handle clearing the memory when it is needed. You waste more battery force killing your apps rather than letting Android do so when the memory needs to be claimed by something else. (This is an interesting topic if you read up on it, the more you know)

The game is entirely inactive in the background and presents no notifications so there is no purpose in a 'quit' button. The home button is there for suspending apps.
Natteke
Ah okay, I'm still new to Android devices. However, apps in the background do consume RAM though o.o
lepidopodus
Well, at least exiting to the home screen or terminating the application when hitting back button on the device when you are in the main menu of T-Aiko would be better? Like other applications.

Score system(combo bonus or gogo-time bonus or something?), barlines, gekki-renta or spinner or something like that... More to improve, I guess?

Some issues I've met until now.(I'm using Samsung Galaxy S2 and I don't have SD card.):
- The application got error when trying to read files in songs folder with USB storage mode enabled.
- Some songs got duplicated when refreshing after modifying the song folder manually.
- Removed songs never got removed in the song list after ^ happens. Currently my db is screwed up.
- No lead-in, and this bothers me quite a lot in some maps.
- Significant delay between hitting the Taiko and acutal effect of it. (This is a rhythm game, you know.)

Well, that delay (or lag, whatever you call it) issue is quite annoying. Can't play somewhat hard maps due to that. Offset settings were ok when I check auto-play. (I also have an iPad with Taiko no Tatsujin for iOS installed and I know even that app have slight delay, but not that significantly affects gameplay. Can FC even some maps with high note-density like Kurenai with that thing.)

I think I've experienced multi-touch issue too. Maybe due to small screen and relatively small taiko drum.

...Yeah, still lot more to go, but at least this may be a good application for playing Taiko in Android before Namco notices it lol.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
BOY this turned out to be a long post, sorry

Natteke wrote:

Ah okay, I'm still new to Android devices. However, apps in the background do consume RAM though o.o
Apps in the background hold RAM, but It's up to android to clean them out when that memory is needed. Background apps have much less priority over foreground ones.

lepidopodus wrote:

Well, at least exiting to the home screen or terminating the application when hitting back button on the device when you are in the main menu of T-Aiko would be better? Like other applications.
Hmmm, I'm considering this now that everyone seems to keep asking, the back button from the menu screen, I was against it though... I'm not sure.

lepidopodus wrote:

Score system(combo bonus or gogo-time bonus or something?), barlines, gekki-renta or spinner or something like that... More to improve, I guess?
Of course, this will be coming, the current score system is just a barebones one.


- The application got error when trying to read files in songs folder with USB storage mode enabled.
Thanks, I'll fix this, I got a market error report of something similar too. (My mistake)

- Some songs got duplicated when refreshing after modifying the song folder manually.
- Removed songs never got removed in the song list after ^ happens. Currently my db is screwed up.
I'm aware of this too and need to make improvements to the songDB. In the mean-time, if you go to Settings>Apps>T-Aiko and Clear Cache this will clear the song database and you can refresh to create it from scratch (doesn't take that long)

- No lead-in, and this bothers me quite a lot in some maps.
Also on the todo list

- Significant delay between hitting the Taiko and acutal effect of it. (This is a rhythm game, you know.)
I don't appreciate being told it's a rhythm game, I wouldn't spend $25 shoving out some garbage that didn't play well to the best of my knowledge.

However, what kind of timescale do you think this delay is, is it visually noticeable? Is there a delay between you touching the screen and the drum appearing to have moved down?
There is no noticeable delay on my less powerful Nexus S and it has been tested on another Galaxy SII as well.

I think I've experienced multi-touch issue too. Maybe due to small screen and relatively small taiko drum.
I highly doubt this is happening on the SII,

...Yeah, still lot more to go, but at least this may be a good application for playing Taiko in Android before Namco notices it lol.
Thanks, there's further to go and I'm here to do just that <:
There are apps that directly infringe copyrights on the Market, I doubt much will be done against one who's gameplay is similar to another.
maay
would you mind uploading the latest .apk somewhere for me? I can't really get it from the market for now...

also thank you for your hard work
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Thankyou for your support ;_; <3

Here's the APK: http://puu.sh/9Ii0
lepidopodus
@Guy-kun: Quite subtle to say about delay since it is just a miliseconds scale,(hard to notice expect a few experienced players, I guess.) but I sometimes find myself tapping the taiko twice since the note didn't disappeard that quickly like I assumed. (yeah hitting Taiko became something like a reflex to me unless it's a complex stream, lol.)

I mentioned about multi-touch issue but I don't think it's a real issue, so nevermind :D

EDIT: Uh, do we have some misunderstandings about the word 'rhythm game', or just I mistranslated the word you said? I mean, one of genre of games, synonym of music games, like osu!, TnT, etc., not a bad word or something.
Topic Starter
Guy-kun
Hmmmm, I'd say I'm pretty adept at Taiko and I can't feel anything off, but of course I can't test with your device nor can you test with mine.
Can you try a map I can definitely say is perfectly playable to see if there could be a difference in device performance?
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13628 : Taiko difficulty is 100% playable and enjoyable

Either way, of course I'll be optimizing the performance.

P.S. I understand what Rhythm Game means, I just didn't like to be patronized as if I didn't understand what's important in a rhythm game.
anthonyyy0
I guess this isn't compatible with iPhone, right? *sigh*
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