If Newbie was town, another mafioso could have easily put another vote on him and I'm pretty sure no one would bat an eye. Maybe I didn't read thoroughly enough, but I don't think there was enough suspicion on animask that saving him would warrant much suspicion.Wojjan wrote:
well
they were trying weren't they?
Mashley wrote:
Like I said, everything so far has just been the usual day one stuff. It's quite clear that Ekaru is a newbie (not saying they can't be mafia of course), and none of the following discussion is especially scummy and it mostly rational, if a little sensationalist. It makes no sense to lynch people who have been genuinely contributing, as the lynch on day one is always just luck based unless a scum seriously gives themselves away.animask wrote:
RVS is obviously over and the discussion already started
Mashley wrote:
So vote Newbie before an actual poster gets lynched
...You're conveniently ignoring the fact that when you voted for Newbie animask had 3 votes on him, not 2; in other words, animask had an extremely high chance of getting lynched at that point in time unless you managed to get votes off of animask. The 3 people who were voting on animask at that time clearly weren't going to go for Ekaru or NoHItter, so you had to bring up somebody else instead. Who else to go for than a lurker?Mashley wrote:
he had two votes on him for crying out loud.
Your point is? That still leaves a huge number who hadn't voted or discussed who we should lynch at at all. In a 15 person game 3 votes is nothing. There was little to no genuine suspicion about animask as far as I know, and those were just the typical votes that animask gets when he posts his usual gibberish so it was actually quite a shock when he actually flipped town. At that point, as always Day 1 there were no strong arguments for lynching anyone, so the best policy had to be lynching a lurker. I mean look at the final vote count, there were three other people with the same number of votes as animask, he only actually got lynched because of when the votes were cast.Ekaru wrote:
...You're conveniently ignoring the fact that when you voted for Newbie animask had 3 votes on him, not 2
huh, turns out you did call itfoulcoon wrote:
yeah Sync, I'm obviously mafia and fucking with you, which is why I left my vote on a mafia member instead of easily saving them by unvoting.
don't worry mashley, if you flip town we'll lynch DxS.
also Wojjan don't take credit for something I called a mile away okay. you didnt even vote for him!
p.s. Thanks whoever voted with me (ekaru i think).
For the record, I got no notification that I was motivated. You guys can take that as you will.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nope.
Roleclaim: Motivator
I motivated Ekaru N1. Carry on now.
more like mafia motivator who last minute vote changed in an effort to not lynch their mafia buddyDeathxShinigami wrote:
Nope.
Roleclaim: Motivator
I motivated Ekaru N1. Carry on now.
However, the only thing that doesn't go well with my suspicions is that DxS could have made much better claims than one that's easily refuted. Possibly roleblocked?Ekaru wrote:
For the record, I got no notification that I was motivated. You guys can take that as you will.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nope.
Roleclaim: Motivator
I motivated Ekaru N1. Carry on now.
This line stands out to me pretty heavily. It seems like at the last minute of day 1, there was a fair amount of vote shuffling in a misguided attempt to avoid lynching animask via tied votes. DxS brought animask's votes to 3, then animask pushed NoHItter up to 2, then DxS unvotes and votes for Newbie instead, possibly hoping that animask going from 3 -> 2 would put him behind NoHItter in the lynch line.Rantai wrote:
Huh... pretty sure that's a NoHItter lynch if I'm looking at this right.
well to be fair, even though DxS looks scummy, if it weren't for his vote + unvote animask wouldnt have been lynched...Ivalset wrote:
This line stands out to me pretty heavily. It seems like at the last minute of day 1, there was a fair amount of vote shuffling in a misguided attempt to avoid lynching animask via tied votes. DxS brought animask's votes to 3, then animask pushed NoHItter up to 2, then DxS unvotes and votes for Newbie instead, possibly hoping that animask going from 3 -> 2 would put him behind NoHItter in the lynch line.Rantai wrote:
Huh... pretty sure that's a NoHItter lynch if I'm looking at this right.
For this reasoning I find all of Mashley, DxS and Rantai to be suspicious in different degrees.
Mashley for clearly attempting to save animask by persuading people to vote for a lurker instead.
DxS for his actions - pushing animask above 2 then back down to 2.
and Rantai for misreading the tied vote rules and bringing attention to the vote changes.
I'm quite comfortable with a Mashley lynch right now, so Vote: Mashley
This is very odd and makes me pretty confident that animask is trying to distance Mashley. Like, he explains a lot about Mashley, but ends up voting for NoHItter without his own reasoning :<animask wrote:
Fos Mashley
*Reasons why he FoSes Mashley*
Vote: NoHItter
havent considered the possibility that sync and or ekaru are mafia yet.Ivalset wrote:
Those were mechanics introduced into two's first mafia game but were changed before the game started. Interestingly enough, you were involved in the discussion.
viewtopic.php?p=1027357#p1027357
Discussion on the tied vote rule is on the first two pages.
viewtopic.php?p=1330260#p1330260 is where animask is solidified at 2 votes and never falls below that. At that point in time, animask is second on the lynch list - viewtopic.php?p=1330461#p1330461
Later, sync brings ekaru up to 3 votes but then unvotes, then animask unvotes ekaru and seals his own fate by bringing himself to the top of the lynch list. Furthermore, Nohitter drops to 1 vote viewtopic.php?p=1333209#p1333209 when mashley votes for newbie instead. When animask switches to nohitter and puts him at 2 votes, animask is still first to be lynched because he reached 2 votes before nohitter did.
Also, there's an example of how tied votes works in this game in the first post!
havent considered the possibility that sync and or ekaru are mafia yet.If I was mafia then I would've voted for NoHItter on day one, not animask. ;P
any thoughts?
Echo, justifying possible town lynch (under the guise of 'safe'), fishing for hammer confirmation. To a lesser degree a vote on Mashley in rvs (distancing anyone?).0_o wrote:
Yeah, even if he is telling the truth there's nothing about the role that really clears him. Worse case scenario we mislynch a scummy town doublevoter, which as far as aux roles go, is one of the safer ones to lose.
Any objections to a hammer?
You must be drunk.Rantai wrote:
18 players. I'd say 4 possibly 5 but that's pushing it.
Salvage wrote:
Hi guys, so this is my first mafia game hosted and hopefully not my last one .. i don't know if i'd really want to host another one but we'll see.
So well .. there is not much to say, registration right here and rules at the bottom, 15 players max (: .. roles are premade (not PyP) so yeah, go then love u all.
Essentially, I was pretending to be DxS in that second sentence.Lilac wrote:
Wow, that was so convincing. Cause saying what I did at night and continuously yelling I am Town makes me scum.
This. He already said he motivated me and I can confirm this, so if LS also confirms then he's definitely town.Wojjan wrote:
wellllll DxS claims motivator and when LS gets in here we'll hear the jist of it
Oh, okay. Good point!Wojjan wrote:
Well motivator isn't per se town, 0_o can account for that. It does however confirm his role and giving him targets to motivate or else he gets caught in the act will also keep scum motivator busy