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This line stands out to me pretty heavily. It seems like at the last minute of day 1, there was a fair amount of vote shuffling in a misguided attempt to avoid lynching animask via tied votes. DxS brought animask's votes to 3, then animask pushed NoHItter up to 2, then DxS unvotes and votes for Newbie instead, possibly hoping that animask going from 3 -> 2 would put him behind NoHItter in the lynch line.Rantai wrote:
Huh... pretty sure that's a NoHItter lynch if I'm looking at this right.
well to be fair, even though DxS looks scummy, if it weren't for his vote + unvote animask wouldnt have been lynched...Ivalset wrote:
This line stands out to me pretty heavily. It seems like at the last minute of day 1, there was a fair amount of vote shuffling in a misguided attempt to avoid lynching animask via tied votes. DxS brought animask's votes to 3, then animask pushed NoHItter up to 2, then DxS unvotes and votes for Newbie instead, possibly hoping that animask going from 3 -> 2 would put him behind NoHItter in the lynch line.Rantai wrote:
Huh... pretty sure that's a NoHItter lynch if I'm looking at this right.
For this reasoning I find all of Mashley, DxS and Rantai to be suspicious in different degrees.
Mashley for clearly attempting to save animask by persuading people to vote for a lurker instead.
DxS for his actions - pushing animask above 2 then back down to 2.
and Rantai for misreading the tied vote rules and bringing attention to the vote changes.
I'm quite comfortable with a Mashley lynch right now, so Vote: Mashley
This is very odd and makes me pretty confident that animask is trying to distance Mashley. Like, he explains a lot about Mashley, but ends up voting for NoHItter without his own reasoning :<animask wrote:
Fos Mashley
*Reasons why he FoSes Mashley*
Vote: NoHItter
havent considered the possibility that sync and or ekaru are mafia yet.Ivalset wrote:
Those were mechanics introduced into two's first mafia game but were changed before the game started. Interestingly enough, you were involved in the discussion.
viewtopic.php?p=1027357#p1027357
Discussion on the tied vote rule is on the first two pages.
viewtopic.php?p=1330260#p1330260 is where animask is solidified at 2 votes and never falls below that. At that point in time, animask is second on the lynch list - viewtopic.php?p=1330461#p1330461
Later, sync brings ekaru up to 3 votes but then unvotes, then animask unvotes ekaru and seals his own fate by bringing himself to the top of the lynch list. Furthermore, Nohitter drops to 1 vote viewtopic.php?p=1333209#p1333209 when mashley votes for newbie instead. When animask switches to nohitter and puts him at 2 votes, animask is still first to be lynched because he reached 2 votes before nohitter did.
Also, there's an example of how tied votes works in this game in the first post!
havent considered the possibility that sync and or ekaru are mafia yet.If I was mafia then I would've voted for NoHItter on day one, not animask. ;P
any thoughts?
Echo, justifying possible town lynch (under the guise of 'safe'), fishing for hammer confirmation. To a lesser degree a vote on Mashley in rvs (distancing anyone?).0_o wrote:
Yeah, even if he is telling the truth there's nothing about the role that really clears him. Worse case scenario we mislynch a scummy town doublevoter, which as far as aux roles go, is one of the safer ones to lose.
Any objections to a hammer?
You must be drunk.Rantai wrote:
18 players. I'd say 4 possibly 5 but that's pushing it.
Salvage wrote:
Hi guys, so this is my first mafia game hosted and hopefully not my last one .. i don't know if i'd really want to host another one but we'll see.
So well .. there is not much to say, registration right here and rules at the bottom, 15 players max (: .. roles are premade (not PyP) so yeah, go then love u all.
Essentially, I was pretending to be DxS in that second sentence.Lilac wrote:
Wow, that was so convincing. Cause saying what I did at night and continuously yelling I am Town makes me scum.
This. He already said he motivated me and I can confirm this, so if LS also confirms then he's definitely town.Wojjan wrote:
wellllll DxS claims motivator and when LS gets in here we'll hear the jist of it
Oh, okay. Good point!Wojjan wrote:
Well motivator isn't per se town, 0_o can account for that. It does however confirm his role and giving him targets to motivate or else he gets caught in the act will also keep scum motivator busy
Wojjan wrote:
I don't even see why you would see "no kill" and assume that instead of "sucessful doc protect" it's "maf was all afk and got autoprotected"
I'm basing this on a claim that mafia has lost their interest for this game.
is this the claim if so vote syncSync wrote:
lol'd
is mafia completely inactive or some shit
I just didn't wanna kill the discussion by hammering. If I had hammered, one could just as easily say that I wanted to stifle discussion since he was pretty much dead anyway.Rantai wrote:
18 players. I'd say 4 possibly 5 but that's pushing it.
Also; Vote: 0_oEcho, justifying possible town lynch (under the guise of 'safe'), fishing for hammer confirmation. To a lesser degree a vote on Mashley in rvs (distancing anyone?).0_o wrote:
Yeah, even if he is telling the truth there's nothing about the role that really clears him. Worse case scenario we mislynch a scummy town doublevoter, which as far as aux roles go, is one of the safer ones to lose.
Any objections to a hammer?
didn't even know he was in the gameRantai wrote:
No opinion on Facey at all?
Yeah, like I said earlier I know it's hypocritical, but I still think it holds.foulcoon wrote:
didn't even know he was in the gameRantai wrote:
No opinion on Facey at all?
lurk2themax and vote for another "lurker"
faceman got jokes
I'm right here. >_>DeathxShinigami wrote:
So wait, proving my role by motivating Foulcoon?
I suppose since you won't believe my for once logical claim.
Also, Eka, Eka, ruuuuu where are you?
Jinkeys!Ekaru wrote:
I'm right here. >_>
Eh, I stand by my 0_o vote.Wojjan wrote:
We can just sit here and glare at each other until it's a nolynch
or we can vote bmin off we have pleeeenty of mislynches so going at a scummy ISO plus voting lilac for lurhing day fucking 3 is good enough for me at least
Are we still RVSing around? It's kinda hard to tell, because you guys are actually justifying your votesSAY G'DAY TO BMIN on day one, right after or right in RVS, you don't even need context for this one. bmin asking if RVS is over means that he doesn't want to drag out of RVS too fast OR stay into it too long to rouse suspicion. By making it a question he's putting it up to someone else he can ride to victory later on.
Well we now see that Sync is Wojjan's follower, huh?THIS LITTLE DITTY is one of the most classic scumplays I have ever seen: you put an argument out there and then don't do anything with it and leave it as an option so when a bw starts you can just throw that on the pile and look like you're not sheeping. Sync saying that Ekaru has me on him meant that with someone taking Ekaru's side the lynch or kill on him would've been more valuable, but bmin makes it sound as if Sync sheeped because "it's wojjan of course it's good" which when you check the context is totally not the case
I'm up Lilac just purely for his inactiveness.It takes bmin three different posts to say that all the people he is intent on lynching haven't contributed. ALL THREE lurk a lot, there is not a single even remotely active player in the list. Thing is this is on day three. Why doesn't he address anything that happened other than the lynches of last night? He is superduper lurking himself to the point that he only drops by when I remind him of my vote on him, so why is he voting lurkers too?
By the way, how many mafias do you guys expect?
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Good point
My lynch list: Lilac, DxS, 0_o
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this whole shebang
I couldn't quite understand this part. Can you explain what that bmin11 was trying to do and the gain of it?Wojjan wrote:
SAY G'DAY TO BMIN on day one, right after or right in RVS, you don't even need context for this one. bmin asking if RVS is over means that he doesn't want to drag out of RVS too fast OR stay into it too long to rouse suspicion. By making it a question he's putting it up to someone else he can ride to victory later on.
Fixed. tbh I posted that because addressing that as part of the reasoning makes me quite sad. Opinion shouldn't differ from the source it comes from, but Sync posted that the information came from you, thus a believable and a reliable information. It's a play style I do not respect so much... However, I couldn't take it as a scum tell, because the only way for that to work is to believe both of you guys to be mafia. I atleast didn't believe you (Wojjan) was mafia, so I didn't proceeded with it any farther. Question?Wojjan wrote:
Well we now see that Sync is Wojjan's follower, huh?
I won't comment on this. It has way too much WIFOM potential that our arguments may go off topicWojjan wrote:
because calling mash out would earn him major town cred
Because I believe Mafia has lost their interest in this game? Have you even followed my posts? I think I've posted enough that indicates the possibility of mafia afk-ing (animask lynch and peaceful N2). Plus, I don't really suspect any of the active player right now. Most of them are quite confirmed on my note. For example, foulcoon and Ekaru.Wojjan wrote:
there is not a single even remotely active player in the list.
Tell me, what happened? I don't remember anything that casts my suspicion, other then animask and Mashley.Wojjan wrote:
Why doesn't he address anything that happened
I admit. I couldn't come up with anything much for myself to post. Lack of motivation or interest? or my head just not working? could be either I guess.Wojjan wrote:
He is superduper lurking himself
Because I don't suspect much of the active players, and thus, leaving the others on my suspicion list. Why, should I just not cast any suspicions? If that helps town, I'll stop.Wojjan wrote:
so why is he voting lurkers too?
Tell me what happened. I might have skim read, so inform me for the good of town (I actually liked JInx's short recap).Wojjan wrote:
ignoring any dispute in town
Again, I don't see the point of voting on this early stage. I'll vote the most suspicious one at the end of the day.Wojjan wrote:
he so desperately doesn't want to pick sides
Was there any town lynches I didn't vote one? Actually, was there even a town lynch? The only possible town lynch is the 0_o lynch and to have this reason to be valuable is for you to believe 0_o is town. So tell me, do you think I'm not voting 0_o because 0_o is town?Wojjan wrote:
a lynch goes through on a townie he'll lose face.