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Sync
hi

vote: Mashley
doesn't want RQS
Wojjan
vote mashley
fuck the police

RQS YAY

1. DO YOU ENDORSE OF LYNCHING LIURKERS??????!!!
2. DO YOU LIKE PLAYING SCUM-ALIGNED?
3. ARE YOU MAFIA LIKE SRSLY FOR A SECOND?
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

vote mashley
fuck the police

RQS YAY

1. DO YOU ENDORSE OF LYNCHING LIURKERS??????!!!
2. DO YOU LIKE PLAYING SCUM-ALIGNED?
3. ARE YOU MAFIA LIKE SRSLY FOR A SECOND?
1. It's tricky now, since we have people on this forum who generally lurk but yet mafia are starting to lurk as a strategy. Neutral right now.

2. Not really.

3. No, but part of my role theoretically works better as mafia. At least, in most games.
Mashley
MAYBE
Wojjan
VOTE LS for roleclaiming day one
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

vote mashley
fuck the police

RQS YAY

1. DO YOU ENDORSE OF LYNCHING LIURKERS??????!!!
2. DO YOU LIKE PLAYING SCUM-ALIGNED?
3. ARE YOU MAFIA LIKE SRSLY FOR A SECOND?
1. If there's not much to go on, sure. Keeps the game going, and avoids situations at LyLo with players we don't know anything about.
2. It's alright, though I was mafia the last 2 games, and while being all sneaky and stuff is fun, it got pretty tiring having to worry about every detail of my posts.
3. Yes.

Wait I mean,

DAMMIT WOJJAN.

/ragequit
Wojjan
you should post your role pm else it's not a real ragequit
Sync

Wojjan wrote:

1. DO YOU ENDORSE OF LYNCHING LIURKERS??????!!!
2. DO YOU LIKE PLAYING SCUM-ALIGNED?
3. ARE YOU MAFIA LIKE SRSLY FOR A SECOND?
1. EVER SINCE SONGFIA WENT DOWN YES. SERIOUSLY THAT GAME WAS BULLSHIT AND I STILL HATE MYSELF FOR IT
2. I'VE NEVER PLAYED SCUM-ALIGNED
3. LOL NO SOZ I CAN BE UR UNCLE THO
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

you should post your role pm else it's not a real ragequit

Salvage wrote:

You are a Jester and One-shot bulletproof.

You win when you are lynched. If you are Nightkilled, you lose.
I would laugh if anyone thought that was real.
Ekaru
Confirm. /slow

Also, I don't vote for anybody right now 'cuz nobody has been killed yet so we can't come up with any trends yet.
Sync
No-lynch day one has been shown to be bad for town

there are people who disagree with you, including myself

it's still practically RVS though...or not?
bmin11
Confirm

I don't think Ekaru was going for a No-Lynch.
Sync
oh, you think? I thought he was because of:

Ekaru wrote:

Also, I don't vote for anybody right now 'cuz nobody has been killed yet so we can't come up with any trends yet.
oh well, you should clear it up for us Ekaru
DeathxShinigami
I'm at a lost if Ekaru actually knows how to play this game unless he's soft claiming a day kill based role?
Ekaru

Sync wrote:

oh, you think? I thought he was because of:

Ekaru wrote:

Also, I don't vote for anybody right now 'cuz nobody has been killed yet so we can't come up with any trends yet.
oh well, you should clear it up for us Ekaru
That was more of a way to read people's reactions to that. Anyways...

vote: Mashley because I don't like his namechange. Agent_Spin_Here was far superior, dammit!
Sync
I think that hunting for reactions is pretty scummy

but it's D1
Mashley
3 votes on me in RVS? Keep em coming guys!
Rantai
Wow lots goes on when I go to sleep huh. Anyway Ekaru, try not to blow off statements as reaction fishing, it tends to be a very weak one.
Mashley
Wait no only 2 :(
Sync
vote: Mashley ducks in his avatar
Mashley
party hard party hard
Mashley
Also it's a goose not a duck
just sayin
Rantai
I always thought that guy in pink was looking at that goose/duck/bird extremely creepily.
Mashley
And it's eeeeeeend loooooove theeeeeee sky is fallin'
Sync
unvote

I like geese more than ducks
Rantai
I don't know, ducks taste better.
Sync
I've never eaten a duck
LadySuburu
Vote: DxS

Let's trust that gut!
LadySuburu

LadySuburu wrote:

Vote: DxS

Let's trust that gut!
Unvote Disregard that, I learned to read.
pieguyn
vote Lilac for giving me a fail role in Touhou PyP :?
Oswald
Vote: No one atm
Mashley
It don't think No one atm is in this game
Topic Starter
Salvage
VOTE COUNT:


Rantai (1) - NoHitter
NoHitter (1) - Mashley
LadySuburu (1) - Wojjan
Mashley (1) - Ekaru
Lilac (1) - pieguy1372


Not voting (10) - DeathxShinigami, LadySuburu, 0_o, -Newbie-, Sync, bmin11, animask, Rantai, foulcoon, Lilac
0_o

Mashley wrote:

It don't think No one atm is in this game
vote Mashley
DeathxShinigami

-Newbie- wrote:

Vote: No one atm
Why didn't you just state you don't want to vote for anyone in this game?

Sccccuuuummmmm.
Rantai
'At the moment' pretty sure it's just an innocent mistake.
DeathxShinigami
He used vote code to state he didn't want to vote anyone.

That's why I'm at a loss on that one.
Lilac
Vote: pieguy.

You asked to be Mafia all the time. No surprise if you are this game.
bmin11
Are we still RVSing around? It's kinda hard to tell, because you guys are actually justifying your votes :?
DeathxShinigami
I was just making a point on people's wording and what not. Style based votes if anything bmin.

Too bad Chris isn't here to force someone into arguing submission :(
bmin11
I'm more worried of Lilac as that is some heavy meta over there.
Sleep Powder
/confirm

Warning: Some of the conclusions may not make sense or have very little explanation.

Today we can conclude, very few people here have a horrible role (vanilla townie, etc.) -Newbie- is actually manslayer disguising himself/herself to look newbie and will destroy their opposing faction. Wojjan takes the role of RQS lead and she tries to scum hunt doing so. Seems a bit too eager to scum hunt... may be trying to show town-tells early in the game.

Ekaru suggests a No Lynch. His logic is probably that we have a very small chance to hitting mafia anyways. You guys should be more open to ideas like this. Then, he switches it around and says he was only doing it to find reactions. Seems pretty scummy to me (and not just from the "hunting for reactions" part that Sync said)

Vote: Ekaru
Sync
animask is one big puff ball of WIFOM

I enjoyed the post through and through.
foulcoon
man, Vote: animask

not an RVS, just read his post
NoHitter

Wojjan wrote:

1. DO YOU ENDORSE OF LYNCHING LIURKERS??????!!!
2. DO YOU LIKE PLAYING SCUM-ALIGNED?
3. ARE YOU MAFIA LIKE SRSLY FOR A SECOND?
1. I now think that we should only lynch lurkers if that's against their town meta. For example, if Rantai starts to lurk (which is against his town meta) then that is definitely suspicious.
2. Yes. It's more fun and challenging.
3. Not right now.

@LadySuburu
Why did you softclaim this early?

@Ekaru
IMO if you were really reaction fishing, you should have let more people post first.
You explained your "reason" behind the statement only after three people posted, questioning it?
That doesn't seem to me like you were really reaction fishing.
Vote: Ekaru

@animask
Adding a disclaimer like that is basically saying:
"I'm suspicious of someone because of X. If X doesn't make sense to you, then deal with it."

Edit:
Also Salvage, nice vote count format you have there.
Rantai
I feel like I'm being targeted.

;~;
Ekaru
unvote
vote: animask


Reasoning: Your logic sucks and is probably forced in an attempt to get a townie lynched on D1. Your logic sucks because if you have been paying any attention at all to anything, then you would know that I clearly have absolutely no idea what I'm doing and therefore trying to claim that my white lie on D1 is scum behavior is idiotic because, well, I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
Ekaru
...Okay, let's try an explanation that actually makes sense. *ahem*

The only reason I said that I posted that just to look for reactions was solely because I wanted people to shut the fuck up about it. Yes, it was a lie, but it was a small, meaningless one. Either animask is reading too far into things or he's trying to start a bandwagon because he's a non-townie who really wants a D1 lynch. I'm betting it's the latter.
TBTE
Aw Fuck, I just got the message for joining this game.

fml ;_;
Topic Starter
Salvage
Added at replacements, send me a pm next time :3.
Topic Starter
Salvage
VOTE COUNT:


Ekaru (2) - animask, NoHitter
animask (2) - foulcoon, Ekaru
NoHitter (1) - Mashley
LadySuburu (1) - Wojjan
Mashley (1) - 0_o
Lilac (1) - pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (1) - Lilac


Not voting (6) - DeathxShinigami, LadySuburu, -Newbie-, Sync, bmin11, Rantai


@NoHitter I liked yours a lot so it's kind of a copy, i can stop using it if it bothers you, but i feel it's kind of organized and i like it.
Rantai
The omgus is strong in that one.
Sync
Ekaru, you were scummy. That is all it comes down to. You can say that people are reading too far into it, but what else do we have to go on? What do you think the point is of RVS or RQS? It's because D1, town has very little information. Scum has a lot of information (who is scum, who is town).

vote: Ekaru
Sync
also, I was totally going to call OMGUS but nooooo Rantai did it before me :(
Wojjan
Vote: NoHItter

obvious scum is obvious. Leans towards Ekaru while we all know since Luna and Swift that while furry = dumb, dumb =/= scum. Favors Ekaru over animask while Eksy is clearly just out of it because way early nolynching was a valiable strategy back in times of werewolf. day one lynch got animask priest lynched once and since then nolynch became an option if not a trend and Ekaru dropped off soon after. NoHItter KNOWS THIS, and sees animask's post day one, animask who is always always wishy-washy scummy on day one and still thinks Ekaru is the better lynch. Totally ignores animask wall of text in favor of him, probably double teaming with a mafia to get noobtown on the noose.

If Nohitter flips scum I want animask lynched too, and the other way around.
Sync
heavy meta Wojjan

I've never even read a werewolf thread so I don't even know

but I completely agree with NoHItter...
Sync

Wojjan wrote:

we all know since Luna and Swift that while furry = dumb, dumb =/= scum.
lol'd
Mashley
Shit when did this game get serious?
Sync
earlier today
Wojjan
well then you're wrong or scum. It's meta but it's day one what do you want? We both know animask wouldn't go out of his way to write a wall of text when he could just get away with a meek "oh wow ekaru looks a bit scummy *vote*" like he always does. He doesn't have to write that much unless he thinks he has to explain so much to not screw up the farce. NoHItter would have seized the first chance to point that out but he didn't so he's scum, either saving animask or ignoring it to keep everyone on ekaru. I am less sure of animask than NoHItter
Wojjan
NoHItter I can feel you reading this
Sync
I wasn't shooting it down because it was meta or anything :( It was just a shit ton of meta that I have nothing to do with so I was like "~_~"
Sync
10 times I had to try and post that

what the fuck
Ekaru

Sync wrote:

I wasn't shooting it down because it was meta or anything :( It was just a shit ton of meta that I have nothing to do with so I was like "~_~"
*sigh* Fine, I'll confess, since I pretty much have to at this point. Yes, what Wojjan said is true and is exactly what happened.

When I played a couple of games way back when (this was in like 2009), there were a few games where people picked horrible day 1 lynches. Therefore, playing it safe and going with "no-lynch" on D1 was not considered to be that out of the ordinary and most certainly not a sign of a scum.

However, when you informed me that this was now considered to be scum behavior I panicked. I hadn't played in years and did not know this. So, I had no idea what to say. Let's go over my options:

1. "It is?" That would just make me look like both a dumbass and a scum.

2. "I'm just being cautious." This would still make me look like a scum. Maybe not as much of a dumbass, but still a scum.

3. "I was just seeing how people would react." I went this route in an attempt to look sneaky (which failed miserably).

4. I could simply not reply. But uh, that would make me look like a scum too. Crap.

In other words, I couldn't think of anything better to say so I went with #3, which didn't end very well. But, my attempt to look cool failed miserably. However, I didn't want to admit this because I didn't want to look like a dumbass; it's too late, though. :(

You can choose not to believe me, of course, but before you do that, just ask yourself one simple question: Is it even possible to try to act this stupid?

Good day, sir. ;P
Wojjan
all things considered 3 is probably the worst option of those. But this is such sad panic it's probably not considerably scummy for anyone to vote over
LadySuburu

NoHItter wrote:

@LadySuburu
Why did you softclaim this early?
Because I felt like it?

Information (or lack thereof) has been the death of town in most games recently. When it's not dangerous to town for me to share it, I will share anything I know.
Wojjan
so "I have an important dangerous role" is not dangerous to town?
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

so "I have an important dangerous role" is not dangerous to town?
Actually, my role is unimportant, and only dangerous if I use it. Actually, only that PART of my role is dangerous if I use it.

So no, it isn't.
Wojjan
he's magic bagging, GET HIM
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

he's magic bagging, GET HIM
I always have a magic bag, aren't you used to that by now? :D
Sync

Ekaru wrote:

Sync wrote:

I wasn't shooting it down because it was meta or anything :( It was just a shit ton of meta that I have nothing to do with so I was like "~_~"
*sigh* Fine, I'll confess, since I pretty much have to at this point. Yes, what Wojjan said is true and is exactly what happened.

When I played a couple of games way back when (this was in like 2009), there were a few games where people picked horrible day 1 lynches. Therefore, playing it safe and going with "no-lynch" on D1 was not considered to be that out of the ordinary and most certainly not a sign of a scum.

However, when you informed me that this was now considered to be scum behavior I panicked. I hadn't played in years and did not know this. So, I had no idea what to say. Let's go over my options:

1. "It is?" That would just make me look like both a dumbass and a scum.

2. "I'm just being cautious." This would still make me look like a scum. Maybe not as much of a dumbass, but still a scum.

3. "I was just seeing how people would react." I went this route in an attempt to look sneaky (which failed miserably).

4. I could simply not reply. But uh, that would make me look like a scum too. Crap.

In other words, I couldn't think of anything better to say so I went with #3, which didn't end very well. But, my attempt to look cool failed miserably. However, I didn't want to admit this because I didn't want to look like a dumbass; it's too late, though. :(

You can choose not to believe me, of course, but before you do that, just ask yourself one simple question: Is it even possible to try to act this stupid?

Good day, sir. ;P
I believe you when you say you weren't aware of it because it appears you haven't played in awhile

plus you have wojjan backing you up

but it doesn't mean that much

it's still a scummy move though but it is D1

unvote
bmin11
Reading reading reading

animask wrote:

Today we can conclude, very few people here have a horrible role
I got lost on this part. Can you tell us which post or posts gave you this conclusion?


I don't agree with lynching Ekaru if the accusations are "No Lynch is scumtell" and "Your cover up sucks". No Lynch was never really a scumtell. I have never seen a mafia who suggested a No Lynch on D1 before. It was usually the (newbie) townie who suggested it. Mafia tends to sway the lynch to a town lynch as D1 is the easiest for them to do so. This is why we rarely get a mafia lynch on D1 tbh.

So ya, I'm taking Ekaru to be town actually.
bmin11
Well we now see that Sync is Wojjan's follower, huh?
DeathxShinigami
Getting that Ekaru = town feeling as well just by reading through these pages.

No foulcoon yet I noticed. General inactivity I'm assuming for him.
DeathxShinigami
Nevermind, I saw his vote on animask.
Rantai
So basically it is reasonable to conclude that is it possible that Ekaru+Wojjan is scum or NoHItter+animask are scum.

Completely based off meta I've never even heard of though. I'm going to take it with a grain of salt.
Sync

bmin11 wrote:

Well we now see that Sync is Wojjan's follower, huh?
how did you come to that conclusion?

"Good point, it makes sense."
"WOW NICE SHEEPING!! WOW!!"
Sleep Powder
unvote

bmin11 wrote:

Reading reading reading

animask wrote:

Today we can conclude, very few people here have a horrible role
I got lost on this part. Can you tell us which post or posts gave you this conclusion?
It's not a good reason, but the reason is that nobody seemed lethargic after they confirmed and posted.
bmin11
"plus you have wojjan backing you up"
Irrelevant so you might as well ignore it.
pieguyn
hey, why would you vote me off meta from PyP when these roles are random? o.o

animask, where the hell did you get that from? It doesn't really make sense, so it seems more like a RV to me. I think Ekaru is town, but if he wasn't really reaction fishing all that really does is mislead people. I'm not sure how NoHItter is mafia, it seems like he was trying to figure stuff out to me, and I'm not relying on someone else's meta right now.
pieguyn
oh wait, just checked the thread again

IMO, animask posting a lot right at the start does seem suspicious, but IIRC NoHItter wasn't really calling Ekaru out on no-lynching, just "reaction fishing" which he wasn't really doing. I don't think Wojjan is mafia though.
NoHitter

pieguy1372 wrote:

IMO, animask posting a lot right at the start does seem suspicious, but IIRC NoHItter wasn't really calling Ekaru out on no-lynching, just "reaction fishing" which he wasn't really doing. I don't think Wojjan is mafia though.
Basically this.

I voted Ekaru based on his "reaction fishing" not his "no lynching".
So Wojjan why did you misrep my statement to make it look like I was voting Ekaru because of his "no lynching"?

In fact, right now Ekaru admitted to lying about the "reaction fishing" which all the more makes it suspicious.
There should be no reason for town to lie unless it's some sort of gambit that could out scum or help town power roles (e.g. claiming as a PR so people will target you).

Yet Ekaru himself claims that he just said that lie for people to "shut up" about it.
Then he goes about saying that animask is suspicious for pointing out that what Ekaru said with the "reaction fishing" was suspicious.

I actually didn't think that his plan to no-lynch D1 warranted a vote. In fact it could have been a point of discussion.
But his "reaction fishing" was scummy, and admitting to lying about "reaction fishing" cements my suspicion further.

Wojjan wrote:

Totally ignores animask wall of text in favor of him, probably double teaming with a mafia to get noobtown on the noose.
So I totally ignored animask's text right? Well:

NoHItter wrote:

@animask
Adding a disclaimer like that is basically saying:
"I'm suspicious of someone because of X. If X doesn't make sense to you, then deal with it."
If you're trying to point out that I somehow "commented less" on animask's post though, then let me say that I found animask's post less suspicious than Ekaru's behavior. As you already said, animask always comes out as "wishy-washy scum on day one", so I treated it with less suspicion compared to Ekaru.

Salvage: Sure you can use it ;)
Wojjan
You commented on one bit of all of his wall, the ending. The disclaimer was only tangential and you know it. animask overplayed his hand on getting townie ekaru in the spotlight because he's scum and if he didn't play hard he'd end up lynched instead
Wojjan
also if anything you should unvote Ekaru if your basis was reaction fishing because 1) that was never a reaction fish and I got as much from a cursory read of his post and 2) he admitted it to not be one already. Ekaru is newtown trying not to get lynched because it's been a while and he's just trying too hard to not step on any toes.

consider that if Ekaru is scum, would he not only suggest not killing a townie day one, and admitting to a screw-up TWICE about the same thing? No scum plays that bad even on their first day after a break.
NoHitter
So basically, you're "accepting" Ekaru being suspicious because he's new, and that "newscum" wouldn't make the same mistakes as "newtown" (which Ekaru apparently is in)?

I used that playing the newbie card tactic on Mafiascum once when I was scum. Wasn't lynched and the guy who replaced me eventually won the game. That's why I generally don't consider being new as an excuse for being suspicious.

Also, the fact that he tried to cover up with a lie stating that he was "reaction fishing" is what I am suspicious of - not the actual act of "reaction fishing". He never did so in the first place.
Rantai
You know, I was more concerned about his reaction to animask. 'You suck, I'm new, therefore you suck. I'm new."

Of course 2 hours later he comes back and 'fixes it' either by his own accord or because he was recommend to by a day chat.

Pure speculation but the timing is fairly suspicious in itself.
Wojjan
I'm not accepting him being suspicious I'm saying that for newtown what he did is not suspicious.
NoHitter
What's the difference?
You're using the justification that he's "newtown" to say that what he did was suspicious.
So if he wasn't "newtown" you would find what he did suspicious?

Edit:
You're using the justification that he's "newtown" to say that what he did wasn't suspicious.
Wojjan
If he wasn't I wouldn't have lived it down this easily but some people are just idiots like that. If you want to lynch the poison doctor again like in PyP restaurant where Luna pulled EXACTLY this move, be my guest.
Rantai
Reverse meta says you are mafia for defending it!

In seriousness the content wasn't enough to move me from "eh what were you thinking?" however the chain of events after it made me perk an eyebrow (ESPECIALLY that 'fix' post)
Wojjan

Rantai wrote:

Reverse meta says you are mafia for defending it!

In seriousness the content wasn't enough to move me from "eh what were you thinking?" however the chain of events after it made me perk an eyebrow (ESPECIALLY that 'fix' post)


I lead the lynch on Luna AND I HAVE NO REGRETS ABOUT THAT and you know why BECAUSE I WAS MAFIA ALIGNED IN THAT GAME

NOTICE A PATTERN

VOTE NOHITTER HARDER
Rantai
Pfft patterns. Reverse meta is the way to go. I don't even know what reverse meta is.

Anyway I still stand by my opinion in regards to timing.
Ekaru

Rantai wrote:

In seriousness the content wasn't enough to move me from "eh what were you thinking?" however the chain of events after it made me perk an eyebrow (ESPECIALLY that 'fix' post)
I fixed it of my own accord because I realized just how damn stupid my post sounded. Anybody who realized just how stupid their post sounded would have done pretty much the same thing. ;P
Rantai
Yep I addressed that, however I can't simply rule out the use of a oh-so-common daychat that scum tend to sport these days based purely on your assurances.
Rantai
Alright going to sleep. 9:15 am and counting~!
Topic Starter
Salvage
VOTE COUNT:


animask (2) - foulcoon, Ekaru
NoHitter (2) - Mashley, Wojjan
Ekaru (1) - NoHitter
Mashley (1) - 0_o
Lilac (1) - pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (1) - Lilac


Not voting (7) - DeathxShinigami, LadySuburu, -Newbie-, Sync, bmin11, Rantai, animask




DEADLINE IS IN 17 HOURS
DeathxShinigami
Vote: animask

If he flips town then NoHItter may make a better D2 option.
Mashley
Shit I need to read the thread now
Unvote
Mashley
Yep this is all just the usual day one stuff, someone inexperienced says silly things then everyone starts arguing over it etc etc, not that this is really a bad thing but there isn't much to read into it from someone who wasn't really involved in the discussions. Sorry 'bout that, I've been kind of focusing on Celebrity Mafia more than this game. Serious playing day 2 though, I promise!
Vote Newbie because bleeeaaargh they posted once and I can't meta them... No one who's actually posted is behaving scummily so far so lynching the lurker works for me.
Topic Starter
Salvage
VOTE COUNT:


animask (3) - foulcoon, Ekaru, DeathxShinigami
Ekaru (1) - NoHitter
NoHitter (1) - Wojjan
Mashley (1) - 0_o
Lilac (1) - pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (1) - Lilac
-Newbie- (1) - Mashley


Not voting (6) -LadySuburu, -Newbie-, Sync, bmin11, Rantai, animask
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