21:00 Kalibe: aaa hey apple
21:00 appleeaterx: yo
21:00 Kalibe: are you free for testplay/ sugesstions about snapping or timing???
21:00 appleeaterx: sure
21:00 *Kalibe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1233793 Imai Asami - Hoshikuzu no ring [Sorrow]]
21:00 appleeaterx: but i havent played for so long, i might suck more than usual
21:00 Kalibe: np
21:00 Kalibe: 5 star diff
21:06 Kalibe: w
21:07 appleeaterx: your structure has gotten so amazing lately lol
21:07 Kalibe: wo thx
21:08 Kalibe: about snapping
21:08 Kalibe: im aware of
21:08 Kalibe: 03:29:023 (1) -
21:08 Kalibe: 04:58:857 (3) -
21:08 Kalibe: 01:05:423 (6) - 02:30:303 (4) -
21:09 appleeaterx: 00:34:142 (2,3,4,5) - difference in ds here is so not noticeable, hard to read atm
21:09 appleeaterx: 00:41:825 (6,7) - i like pattern & placement, but such strong sound just ds is not something you normally do
21:10 appleeaterx: 00:53:716 (5) - not sure what this is snapped to.. actual sound is much later
21:10 appleeaterx: maybe just remove that, break can add nice effect too xd
21:11 Kalibe: o
21:11 Kalibe: nice idea
21:11 Kalibe: btw how about that https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7558986 ?
21:12 appleeaterx: 01:21:886 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - so dense for calm section orz... actually your calm section are pretty 1/4 dense... oh well song offers it
21:12 appleeaterx: uh looks okay, i personally dont like stacks tho but you to you ofcourse :>
21:13 Kalibe: ill change 01:22:618 (5,6,7) - to 1/4 repeat
21:14 appleeaterx: 01:57:557 (3) - am i the only one who thinks this custom sound in this part is a little too loud ?
21:14 Kalibe: :thinking:
21:15 Kalibe: 50% is good?
21:15 appleeaterx: idk
21:15 appleeaterx: 02:04:142 (1) - weird snap
21:15 appleeaterx: sound like 1/12, not 1/16 to me
21:15 appleeaterx: so 1/8 would be invalid then
21:15 Kalibe: ee
21:15 Kalibe: how to fix aa
21:16 appleeaterx: maybe its 1/8
21:16 appleeaterx: dont trust me on this lol
21:16 appleeaterx: too vague
21:16 Kalibe: xd
21:16 Kalibe: ill keep 1/8
21:17 appleeaterx: 02:06:155 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this tho, u need another pair of ears on this
21:17 Kalibe: 02:06:155 (4,5,1) - following drums
21:17 Kalibe: 02:06:703 (3,4,5,6) - idk what snap is this lmao
21:18 appleeaterx: 02:34:876 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - cute pattern, but pitch decrease yet spacing increase
21:18 appleeaterx: doubt players will care tho since not that noticeable
21:19 appleeaterx: 02:46:584 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this ones ok tho
21:19 appleeaterx: if you dont wanna change, you can use consistency as reason
21:20 appleeaterx: same music, different hitsound sample 01:29:386 (2,3,4) - 02:54:450 (2,3,4) -
21:21 Kalibe: nice catch
21:21 appleeaterx: 02:56:096 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - sounds bit too late
21:23 Kalibe: so here 02:56:073 (1) - red line?
21:23 appleeaterx: sounds like offset reset needed at around ~176076
21:24 appleeaterx: tho 02:56:645 (1) - sounds good, so make sure to keep that part the same
21:24 Kalibe: ya
21:26 appleeaterx: maybe still need -4ms the offset i gave u
21:26 appleeaterx: tweak it a bit
21:26 appleeaterx: im using apple headphones atm, so no rely on that lol
21:27 Kalibe: apple using apple headphones
21:27 Kalibe: nice
21:27 appleeaterx: :<
21:28 Kalibe: xd
21:30 appleeaterx: 01:38:990 (7,8,9) - only time you use 5 note rhythm in the identical section each kiai
21:30 appleeaterx: would make more sense to put 5 note stream at end instead
21:30 appleeaterx: but maybe this is too much thinking lol
21:31 Kalibe: maybe remove this stream
21:31 Kalibe: to keep consistency with all kiais?
21:31 appleeaterx: oh could also work
21:31 appleeaterx: 04:36:157 (5,6) - these also have clap hitsound, maybe clap + whistle and volume change
21:32 appleeaterx: 04:41:828 (4,5,6,7,1) - doubts on this stream. if you follow drum (snare), theres only a snare sound on (7)
21:32 appleeaterx: all the other sounds are not 1/4
21:33 Kalibe: what do you prefer
21:33 Kalibe: as a replacement
21:34 appleeaterx: not following or timing change
21:34 appleeaterx: 04:49:872 (2) - sounds pretty soft... tho maybe just me
21:34 Kalibe: oh yea
21:36 appleeaterx: 05:06:531 (1) - sounds too late
21:38 appleeaterx: 306531 -> 306517, BPM128 -> BPM125
21:38 appleeaterx: ?
21:40 appleeaterx: 05:07:765 (3) - sounds off too late too, but end sounds ok
21:40 Kalibe: ok
21:41 appleeaterx: please dont trust my timing tho
21:41 appleeaterx: these earbuds are beyong crap
21:41 appleeaterx: beyond
21:41 Kalibe: but still better than mine D:
21:42 Kalibe: about 04:58:857 (3) -
21:42 Kalibe: not really sure about snapping
21:43 appleeaterx: 04:58:857 (3,4) - these sound a little off, but the rest sounds fine
21:44 appleeaterx: i dont think its a big problem, and randomly changing timing within a stream doesnt seem playable to me
21:44 Kalibe: okay
21:44 Kalibe: and
21:44 Kalibe: 03:29:023 (1) -
21:44 Kalibe: 03:29:023 (1,2,1) -
21:45 Kalibe: prob my ears are super bad
21:48 appleeaterx: hmm since delay is <10ms and it fixes itself super fast, (only head of (1) and end of (2) are a bit questionable) i think its ok to leave like this
21:49 appleeaterx: <also wondering, why Hoshizuku no ring vs. Hoshizuku no Ring> ?
21:51 Kalibe: em
21:52 appleeaterx: kuzu
21:53 appleeaterx: 04:59:223 (7) - btw, sounds more like 1/3
21:55 Kalibe: eeee
21:55 appleeaterx: sounds something like http://puu.sh/uHqUD/5d050be6f7.jpg
21:55 appleeaterx: with (7) being 1/3
21:55 appleeaterx: dont think thats fixable + playable with red line
21:56 appleeaterx: edit mp3 or just map as 1/4
21:56 appleeaterx: i think they are pretty lenient on this
21:56 appleeaterx: my ito map is 40% 1/6 but pishi said its fine to use 1/4 so
21:56 Kalibe: ok
21:56 appleeaterx: thats all i guess, just the metadata thingy
21:57 Kalibe: i just give up these snaps, ill keep it and tell lasse this is too fking hard to fix ok
21:57 appleeaterx: LOL
21:57 Kalibe: ofc fixable snaps will fix
21:57 Kalibe: xd
21:57 appleeaterx: who checked meta, kwan?
21:58 appleeaterx: i cant find anything with "ring" , so i think it should be "Ring"
21:58 Kalibe: i just go through looking meta like an hour
21:58 Kalibe: yee and i also can't find about title in english
21:58 Kalibe: ranked ver have "ring" but who knows
22:00 appleeaterx: hmm weird
22:00 appleeaterx: RandomEffect wrote it in his mod
22:00 appleeaterx: it was fixed
22:00 appleeaterx: but reverted
22:00 appleeaterx: no other post mentioned anything about that tho
22:00 appleeaterx: maybe cd scan... lemme look
22:02 appleeaterx: nope nothing on scans either, cant find booklet img tho

13:38 *Kalibe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1233793 Imai Asami - Hoshikuzu no ring [Sorrow]]
13:38 Kalibe: send help
13:38 Doormat: oh is this the corpse party thing
13:38 Doormat: fuck
13:38 Doormat: my supporter
13:38 Kalibe: yes
13:38 Doormat: literally just died
13:38 Kalibe: its starred
13:38 Doormat: have to go into website
13:38 Doormat: LOL
13:38 Kalibe: LOL
13:38 Doormat: k
13:38 Doormat: so what's the timing
13:39 Kalibe: so
13:39 Kalibe: 00:07:800 (1) -
13:39 Kalibe: also some snaps
13:39 Kalibe: how to snap end???
13:39 Doormat: o
13:39 Doormat: lmao
13:40 Kalibe: xd
13:42 Doormat: couldn't you do something like this https://puu.sh/uHcbc/cd7153700e.png
13:42 Doormat: there's a drum roll there so you can probably get away with it
13:42 Doormat: it breaks consistency a bit though which is the problem
13:43 Kalibe: inb4
13:43 Kalibe: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7557820
13:43 Kalibe: xd
13:44 Doormat: well yeah
13:44 Doormat: that was my other suggestion
13:44 Doormat: too lazy to think
13:44 Doormat: because have to get ready to leave for class lol
13:44 Kalibe: oh
13:45 Kalibe: about snapping
13:45 Doormat: also as a minor thing i'd consider moving 00:18:609 (1) - to start on 00:18:430 -
13:45 Kalibe: 04:58:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
13:45 Doormat: trill sound sounds like it starts on the white tick tbh
13:46 Doormat: and it also matches the white tick start sound with the drum rolls
13:46 Doormat: so just patterning
13:50 Doormat: so
13:53 Doormat: k
13:53 Doormat: i gotta get going now
13:53 Doormat: if you wanna still discuss i'll be back in like 2-3 hours
13:54 Kalibe: k
13:54 Doormat: i'm saving log in case for later though lol
16:25 Doormat: k i'm back where were we
16:25 Kalibe: lol
16:25 Kalibe: i have an irc with apple
16:34 Kalibe: wait a bit
16:34 Kalibe: i need to update from apple irc
16:34 Doormat: sure
16:35 Doormat: let me know when it's updated
17:21 Kalibe: ok
17:22 Doormat: ok
17:23 Doormat: 00:41:459 (4,5,6,7) - what happened to this pattern :c
17:23 Kalibe: o shit
17:23 Kalibe: xd
17:23 Kalibe: no idea
17:24 Kalibe: what happened
17:24 Doormat: you tell me
17:24 Doormat: fixed?
17:25 Kalibe: ye
17:25 Doormat: 00:49:508 (1,3) - idk why but this aesthetic triggers me slightly
17:25 Kalibe: :eyes:
17:27 Doormat: 01:16:581 (3,4,5,6) - you could make this a bit more hexagonal imo, might improve aesthetics https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7559626
17:28 Doormat: sorry not hexagonal
17:28 Doormat: trapezoidal*
17:28 Kalibe: hoyl
17:28 Doormat: good idea or no?
17:29 Kalibe: did it i guess
17:29 Doormat: zzz
17:29 Kalibe: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7559641
17:29 Doormat: ya better than what i had lol
17:29 Kalibe: lol
17:31 Kalibe: btw fixed 04:21:155 (1) -
17:31 Doormat: oh lol
17:31 Doormat: k
17:31 Doormat: 01:55:362 (1,2) - slightly bothers me because the rhythm density is really simple compared to the next few patterns
17:31 Doormat: how do i describe it
17:31 Doormat: it's like
17:32 Doormat: kiai ended, so here's a simpler rhythm because calmer section
17:32 Doormat: and then literally right after this combo it's pretty heavy with 1/2s
17:32 Doormat: like i'd at least put a circle at 01:55:911 -
17:33 Doormat: basically the 1/1 gap feels weird compared to all the next patterns
17:34 Doormat: `02:29:389 (3,4,5,1) - i'd also space this out a bit more
17:34 Doormat: the 3->4
17:34 Kalibe: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7559684
17:34 Kalibe: d
17:34 Doormat: music is getting more intense so spacing drop is like ???
17:34 Doormat: yeah that works
17:36 Kalibe: something something make it bigger
17:36 Doormat: i'd also nerf 03:15:485 (7,8) - slightly
17:36 Kalibe: but a little bit
17:36 Doormat: d
17:37 Kalibe: moved by few pixels
17:37 Kalibe: xd
17:38 Kalibe: btw lmao www played my ayane hdnc xd
17:38 Doormat: 03:43:107 (1) - does this really have to be kick slider
17:38 Doormat: and nice
17:39 Doormat: i mean
17:39 Doormat: it's not a bad idea
17:39 Doormat: but like
17:39 Doormat: idk
17:39 Doormat: actually ignore what i just said
17:39 Doormat: kick slider is fine
17:40 Kalibe: LOL
17:41 Doormat: 04:16:583 (4,5,6) - i don't hear a triple here
17:41 Doormat: also i think using a back-and-forth rhythm for the "yura yura yura" like 03:03:228 (3,4,5,6,7) - is a better idea for 04:16:400 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:42 Doormat: iirc lyrics for "yura yura yura" translates to something like "swaying back-and-forth" anyways
17:42 Kalibe: xd
17:43 Kalibe: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7559752
17:43 Kalibe: welp
17:44 Doormat: whatever works i guess
17:44 Doormat: also is 04:24:631 (1,2) - intentionally not a blanket
17:44 Kalibe: ofc
17:45 Doormat: k just making sure
17:45 Kalibe: just wanted to curve 04:24:631 (1) - to make flow better from 04:24:449 (4) -
17:45 Doormat: it looked intentionally misplaced
17:45 Doormat: yeah
17:45 Doormat: k that's about it
17:45 Kalibe: aaa
17:45 Kalibe: 03:29:022 (1,2,1) -
17:45 Kalibe: about this snap
17:46 Kalibe: 04:58:857 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
17:46 Kalibe: and this one
17:46 Doormat: oh
17:46 Kalibe: lasse wrote to look at these
17:46 Doormat: now that you mention it
17:46 Doormat: 03:29:388 (2,1) - snap here feels weird
17:46 Doormat: i think the buzz slider is a good idea
17:47 Doormat: but i'd start it at 03:29:387 (1) -
17:47 Doormat: similar to what i suggested earlier today
17:47 Kalibe: wait wait wait
17:47 Kalibe: show me that
17:47 Doormat: uh
17:47 Doormat: this thing
17:47 Doormat: 00:18:431 (1,1) -
17:47 Doormat: how i said the it felt too short?
17:48 Doormat: similar thing at 03:28:388 (2,1) -
17:48 Doormat: cause the trilling starts on the white tick from what i can hear
17:48 Doormat: as for 04:58:857 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it sounds fine now
17:48 Doormat: :thinking:
17:49 Doormat: dunno why it sounded so weird to me earlier
17:49 Kalibe: maybe cuz of placement
17:49 Doormat: yeah
17:49 Doormat: probably
17:49 Kalibe: make it more doormat's
17:49 Doormat: LOOOL
17:49 Kalibe: :gabrielthinking:
17:49 Doormat: do i really design my streams like that :thinking:
17:49 Doormat: HOLY CRAP I DO
17:49 Doormat: LOOOOOL
17:49 Kalibe: xdd
17:50 Doormat: the triple at the start followed by the 5-note stream
17:50 Doormat: xd
17:50 Kalibe: 03:29:388 (2) -
17:50 Doormat: ya what about it
17:50 Kalibe: how do i do here buzz
17:50 Doormat: i'd probably do something like https://puu.sh/uHuXc/78c853d9d1.png
17:50 Doormat: cause buzz sounds like it starts on 03:29:387 -
17:51 Doormat: buzz being where the guitar does the whammy thing
17:53 Doormat: k anything else?
17:53 Kalibe: okay
17:53 Kalibe: did it
17:53 Doormat: test it out a bit
17:53 Doormat: see if it feels and sounds better
17:54 Kalibe: lemme update