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ello


anyways this is a fun tech map ^.^ , Good luck!~

- Matha - wrote:

ello

SPOILER

00:41:986 (5,1) - not parallel x.x

00:53:669 - add a note here will be better , slow down the music and listen closely , there is a beat there

01:03:765 (7,8,9) - kinda spiky


01:04:558 (8,9) - same here

01:27:563 (3,4) - since they are the same sound there is no need to be different

01:39:294 (4,5) - spikeyyy

01:41:313 (1,2,3,4,5) - could have made this more rounder

01:49:486 - Maybe add a slider here

02:11:678 (3,4) - sliders not parallel looks weird

02:18:042 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could make this more round (02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this too)

03:22:133 (4,5) - off the play field xd

03:52:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make this more round please

04:38:965 (1) - can be placed a bit more towards the right

04:40:420 (1,2,3) - maybe change it to this since the music from the back already came to the front , listen closely and u'll get what I mean


05:46:511 (8) - misplace or on purpose

anyways this is a fun tech map ^.^ , Good luck!~

I had nothing to disagree with this mod as I fix/change everything as much as I could

- Forgive but this is the first time I heard someone call my map this - What is a tech map? Also thank you (so fast lol)

DJ Lucky wrote:

- Forgive but this is the first time I heard someone call my map this - What is a tech map? Also thank you (so fast lol)

actually it means technical map
so a tech map is a technical map lo

My Angel Kanan wrote:

DJ Lucky wrote:

- Forgive but this is the first time I heard someone call my map this - What is a tech map? Also thank you (so fast lol)

actually it means technical map
so a tech map is a technical map lo

Well I figure it was shorten for something and u didn't answer my question... - anyways I already found out on #modhelp

Man thought I had a mod - don't disappoint me like that

DJ Lucky wrote:

Well I figure it was shorten for something and u didn't answer my question... - anyways I already found out on #modhelp

Man thought I had a mod - don't disappoint me like that

okay.

00:31:025 (1,2) - This don't like nice with how they are curved imo
00:33:332 (1,2) - ^
00:35:640 (1,2) - ^
00:50:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe lower it a bit? the spacing is kinda huge imo ( I mean the jump from 00:50:496 (8) - to 00:50:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - )
01:56:042 (1) - this should have more emphasis imo. the snare is kinda the same strong as the drum on 01:55:860 (4) -
01:56:224 (2) - this shape would fit better here 01:56:405 (3) - imo
03:54:512 (1,2) - not stacked correctly

I can't play this properly lo
but imo the slidershape should be better would be better aestheticely imo
short mod sorry but this is basically a stream map and I can't mod them b:
gl with it tho

My Angel Kanan wrote:

DJ Lucky wrote:

Well I figure it was shorten for something and u didn't answer my question... - anyways I already found out on #modhelp

Man thought I had a mod - don't disappoint me like that

okay.

00:31:025 (1,2) - This don't like nice with how they are curved imo change
00:33:332 (1,2) - ^ change
00:35:640 (1,2) - ^ change
00:50:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe lower it a bit? the spacing is kinda huge imo ( I mean the jump from 00:50:496 (8) - to 00:50:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ) I'm gonna give this part consistent spacing rather than gradually the spacing be higher since I realize it didn't make much sense
01:56:042 (1) - this should have more emphasis imo. the snare is kinda the same strong as the drum on 01:55:860 (4) - move it around slightly - might change furthe
01:56:224 (2) - this shape would fit better here 01:56:405 (3) - imo didn't do nothing
03:54:512 (1,2) - not stacked correctly fix

I can't play this properly lo
but imo the slidershape should be better would be better aestheticely imo
short mod sorry but this is basically a stream map and I can't mod them b:
gl with it tho

I hear u on the aesthetics - I'm currently going over the kiai parts and make them more appealing cause I myself don't like it as it is

Thanks for the mod

00:49:486 (1,2) - I would make a small jump here to follow the guitar
00:53:092 (2) - Making this a 1/4 slider would fit better and make 00:53:380 (1) - easier to read because jumping on a blue tick is weird
00:53:380 (1,2) - Put the jump on the white tick to follow the guitar
00:54:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe change stream shape to follow guitar
00:57:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Move the second combo so that (1) is at the on the vertex
01:16:746 (6) - Change this so that there's something clickable on the snare
01:35:640 (1,2,3) - Use a repeat slider here to let the player know it's a 1/3 stream
01:35:640 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Try mapping this section in groups of 3 or 6 notes instead. Put the emphasis on the red and white ticks. At 01:35:928 (4,1) - you emphasize the 1/6 before the white tick by having a jump. This goes for the entire section
01:37:563 (1) - Map something clickable on the snare drum
01:55:315 (1,2,3,4) - For this whole section, use the vocals to decide whether to use circles or sliders. I would use sliders on notes the vocals emphasize. Also, don't be afraid to not map some of the 1/4ths because there are times I think a longer slider would fit better.
01:55:315 (1,2,3,4) - Try using spacing or rhythm to emphasize the snare drum throughout this section
02:06:951 (1,2,3,4) - Same for this section but with the cymbal on the big white tick
03:28:405 (1,2) - Make this a slider because it's really hard to tell it's a 3/4 jump while playing

The song repeats sections from here so just apply the same ideas to the rest of it.

Hi!

From my modding queue


It's a really nice map!

Cactipiller wrote:

00:49:486 (1,2) - I would make a small jump here to follow the guitar
00:53:092 (2) - Making this a 1/4 slider would fit better and make 00:53:380 (1) - easier to read because jumping on a blue tick is weird
00:53:380 (1,2) - Put the jump on the white tick to follow the guitar
00:54:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe change stream shape to follow guitar
00:57:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Move the second combo so that (1) is at the on the vertex
01:16:746 (6) - Change this so that there's something clickable on the snare kept the same for now until I come up with something - didn't actually notice it until now
01:35:640 (1,2,3) - Use a repeat slider here to let the player know it's a 1/3 stream meh I rather not do this for personally reasons
01:35:640 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Try mapping this section in groups of 3 or 6 notes instead. Put the emphasis on the red and white ticks. At 01:35:928 (4,1) - you emphasize the 1/6 before the white tick by having a jump. This goes for the entire section ok I got confused what u mean by this so if u clarify more I might change it if it make sense
01:37:563 (1) - Map something clickable on the snare drum this part I would rather just keep simple with a slider
01:55:315 (1,2,3,4) - For this whole section, use the vocals to decide whether to use circles or sliders. I would use sliders on notes the vocals emphasize. Also, don't be afraid to not map some of the 1/4ths because there are times I think a longer slider would fit better. I personally would rather keep it the same on this whole section - the long sliders are good and all but I tend to avoid it in this song because I felt like I would use them the wrong way and it will lose more emphasis in the song If I attempt and fail but that is not the main reason - I do have attention of changing the rhythm slightly to make more sense but I am more than likely going to keep the rhythem similar as it is as I think it works just fine without be blatantly plain
01:55:315 (1,2,3,4) - Try using spacing or rhythm to emphasize the snare drum throughout this section me personally I think the spacing is fine as it is - Not saying I am not going to change the spacing but it won't be major
02:06:951 (1,2,3,4) - Same for this section but with the cymbal on the big white tick tbh I thought I had already put emphasis on this...
03:28:405 (1,2) - Make this a slider because it's really hard to tell it's a 3/4 jump while playing change - it might feel awkward now but that cause I wasn't plaining on having it like this

The song repeats sections from here so just apply the same ideas to the rest of it.

Sorry majority of this I denied and even the stuff I didn't replied to - Not saying I won't look at ur mod and consider any changes so don't be mad at me please

Also thank you

Crypthesis wrote:

Hi!

From my modding queue

Extra

If you're going to do 1/8 streams, just set your bpm to 208. Is there really a point to this? Sorry it just that if the streams is going to play the exact same regardless if I use 1/8 on 104 bpm or 1/4 on 208 - I see no absolutely no point

Your stacking isn't exactly consistent.
00:37:082 (4,5) - This is a 1/2 space.
00:44:294 (1,2) - This is a 1/4 space.
The one with a NC and short slider is fine since it's visually different.

00:59:438 (1) - There's nothing to emphasize here, so why a jump? I wasn't really trying to make jumps - I can however reduce the spacing slightly so it make more sense

01:01:746 (1) - ^

01:02:900 (1) - ^

01:03:332 (1) - ^

01:04:053 (1) - ^

You probably get it.

01:55:232 (5,1) - Space this closer, like the stream. done

02:03:678 (3,4,5) - Not equally spaced. fix

02:06:860 (6,1) - Space closer. done

02:17:405 (1) - There's no reason to put this. If you don't put this, the vocals would be more emphasized. Meh I get more opinons on this before changing however I agree to an extend so I will probably end up getting rid of it

02:35:951 (6,1) - Space this a bit closer. done

02:36:587 (4) - Less curve? change a bit

02:40:678 (1) - Same as the emphasis thing. same answer as before

02:41:769 (6,1) - This jump is a bit unreasonable. Agree and sorta don't - I wanted it be clear that this stream is different from the other stream as they are both covering different sounds - I will however reduce the spacing a bit

03:23:860 (4) - This doesn't have to be like this... this has been change before u mention it - didn't update map yet

Okay... for the fast slider parts in general, it's be nice to put a pattern.
Like curved for whatever that main sound is, straight for overmaps... etc.

04:43:329 (1,2,3) - Equal spacing? fix i think

05:04:874 (6,7,8,9,10) - Make it more gradual. change slightly

05:10:238 (1) - Make this slanted? It would fit with the pattern so far. change

05:35:147 (2) - Less curve? I didn't really move that much but slightly

It's a really nice map!

thanks for the mod - some of ur points I already change due to never updating but majority I didn't until now



If my grammar seems off blame that for reading manga in the middle of the night knowing I need sleep haha

From my queue

Amaikai wrote:

enemy of fingers

00:53:380 (1) - whats this mapped to? guitar "double" sound starts at next white tick 00:53:525 (2) - Shouldn't pairing be 00:52:948 (1,2) - and 00:53:525 (2,1) -? Mistakes happen - I went ahead and change this

I didn't like this section too much, felt like it ignored song 00:54:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Because:
Guitar riff starts at 00:54:390 (1) - and lasts until 00:55:111 (6) - then you get vocals + different guitar note at 00:55:255 (1,2) -
You started patterning at 00:54:101 (1) - strong guitar sound and again at another similar guitar sound 00:55:255 (1) - which also make sense but i feel like guitar is the main instrument at this section and patterning should be based on that instead. So it would go something like double stack + 6 stream guitar then double stack + stream again, basically strong sound being seperated from guitar riff. I am keeping this section like it is for now - I might change if I get more suggestions but too me I would rather have it like it is

This is ugly 02:22:951 (1) - Meh I did move it a bit but I didn't do nothing else since I don't really see how this is ugly

Not sure of rhythm followed here 02:42:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - it sounds overmapped because singer takes a break after 02:42:951 (3) - and there is some other instrument doing funky tune on background. Rhythm wise i would see something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8753327 working better to follow whatever-funky-instrument + singer rather than just map a stream there.

There is silence mapped as stream here too 02:44:224 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
Maybe have a small pause again when singer takes one at 02:44:496 (5) - ? the whole stream was really following the piano in the back ground - not that I disagree with u as I change up so it makes more sense - I will work more into after I reduce the slider velocity a bit so it don't feel too awkward

Singer pronounces words more clearly at 02:44:769 (1) - and 02:45:133 (5) - which wasn't really reflected on map by either patterning or rhythm. Maybe change to sliders https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8753392 or tweak stream a bit?. Made the stream more gradual rather than constant

03:54:512 (1) - What's this mapped to? Same as first point i mentioned. Same what i wrote on 2nd to section right after. fix this as it was my bad for not paying attention to this

From my queue

Thanks for the mod

oh shit waddup
Hello, from my queue


Also, this genre is called J-Rock. I always mod J-Rock touhou songs so you're free to come back to my queue anytime ^^

FruityEnLoops wrote:

oh shit waddup
Hello, from my queue

Mod is down there.

[General]
- First thing, your background in not compressed. It's really not important but I did it for ya. changeHere.

- From what I see in the mp3 it's from YouTube. Please note that YouTube does NOT host high quality audio, and this mp3 is UPSCALED. Not a problem, here's a fixed mp3. This will also solve the "Map exceeds 10mb without video" AIMod entry. change mp3

- Widescreen Support does not need to be checked unless you have a Storyboard. I want there to be a storyboard for this map - but I can't make 1 myself - I keeping this check cause I want lyrics for this song but uncheck if it never happens

- Timing seems weird to me at 01:52:224 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1) - . Sound great when playing, but not metronome wise.

- Use 1/4 instead of 1/8. If you NEED to use 1/8 it's mostly because you misstimed your map. (BPM is 208 instead of 104 for example). I just went on and change this

- Source should be "東方Project ～ Shoot the Bullet" change

[Extra]

- You can use a modified name for the Top Difficulty. You're not forced too, but since this is a touhou song, i'm sure you can find something cool I suck at making difficulty names so I probably just sticking with Extra even though I don't like to call it that

- 00:44:438 (2) - Should be snapped on 1/4 mistake - change

- 01:52:224 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - As I said previously, timing is weird. Seems right in play, but not on the metronome side.

- 01:55:315 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Using this kind of "slider hell pattern" as I call them is fine in kiai, but not this fast AFTER a kiai. Using 0.75 sv would be better in my opinion, and resnap slider lenght using the timing setup. (check the box, do the timing point et click ok should resnap the sliders to the new sv)

- 02:54:769 (5,3) - stack

- 03:02:042 (5,2,3) - stack

- 03:19:678 (1,2,3) - doesn't flow really good to be honest

- 03:19:678 (1,3) - stack

- 03:23:133 (4,3) - overlap

- 03:24:042 (1,1) - ^

guess you got what I mean, I won't point out stacks and overlaps further except if you want me to.
(uncheck "Hit Animations" in the View tab in the editor to see the mess that is your map in for stacks and ugly overlaps). tbh I didn't even remember this exist when I try to fix overlaps... Anyways, I fix (attempt to at least) some overlaps - I'm not going to changes too much since I might end up messing my map up for going to far

01:55:315 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) -


Overall, the map has really good slider design and ideas but you use too much SV during the non kiai time I pointed out ^ .The map gets boring and just hard to play consistently. Achieving an FC without missing sliderends is too hard. The base SV is also too high in my opinion, even though this is needed when mapping this style of extra difficulty.
The only thing to change about your map is the speed between the first and second kiai time. After a Kiai time, the speed should decrease significantly after a Kiai and increase progressively.

Hope I helped!

Also, this genre is called J-Rock. I always mod J-Rock touhou songs so you're free to come back to my queue anytime ^^

I kind of disagree with changing the SV during non kiai - I will; however, may change the SV for the non kiai from 1.2x to 1.1x but its not gonna be any slower than the base SV.

Consider it is a 6.2* recently made - I will not do anything to the SV just yet until more testplay/mods to have more feedback.

Thanks for the mod

btw I didn't know this was call J-rock - now I know what to use when asking genre lol...

Thanks for applying to my queue!

[Extra]

01:05:495 (5,1) - This change of flow is way too sudden when you calculate the length and speed (1/4) in between the notes.
01:06:215 (9,1) - Same ^^
01:07:802 (5,1) - Same again ^^
And 01:07:948 (1) - 02:59:224 (8,1) - slider velocity is too slow. When the speed and distance between notes are that great and you have too slow of a slider velocity you will slider break almost every time.
01:57:315 (4,1) - 03:19:678 (1,2) - These have a new combo and great distance even though there's no special sound to emphasise.
05:01:874 (3,4) - Distance too small.

02:08:951 (4,1) - Wierd angle on both the slider (4) and the slider-end to the next note (1), when it's that high speed.
02:11:133 (3,1) - Same ^^
02:13:315 (4,1) - Same again (You will probably say "ohh but it's a repeating pattern" well that doesn't make it a good pattern)
02:16:951 (3,1) - Same again again ^^
02:26:769 (2,3) - 02:32:224 (4,1) - 02:33:496 (3,4,1) - 02:36:951 (3,1) - 02:53:678 (2,3) - 02:56:042 (4,1) - 03:20:042 (4,1) - 04:43:147 (4) - 04:52:602 (5,1) - 04:56:784 (4,1) - 05:00:602 (4,1) - 05:29:511 (3,4) - 05:30:056 (2,3) - 05:36:238 (4,1) -

05:35:147 (2) - Probably the first slider I've seen that's different but I can't believe I'm saying this it actually doesn't fit very well.

You might think I'm picky. And I can see this map is for the pro players out there but the thing is while they might seem like they have superhuman circle-clicking skills. Not even them can play a map if it has these weird angles at such high speed. In short, it feels like the map is deliberately trying to break the players flow/combo on too many occasions and on such high speed, combine that with the fact that it feels like the majority is copy pasted and there's alot of work that can be done here

Don't think that I'm only here to bash this. It's certainly an impressive map and on the parts where the angles aren't weird, it does play amazingly well!

Maxylan wrote:

Thanks for applying to my queue!

[Extra]

01:05:495 (5,1) - This change of flow is way too sudden when you calculate the length and speed (1/4) in between the notes.
01:06:215 (9,1) - Same ^^
01:07:802 (5,1) - Same again ^^
And 01:07:948 (1) - 02:59:224 (8,1) - slider velocity is too slow. When the speed and distance between notes are that great and you have too slow of a slider velocity you will slider break almost every time. Tbh the song goes slow after the stream so it can't be help that much - I don't wish to change the velocity as that means this will affect the spend for the rest of this slow part and having the slider alone faster seems to be off considering this
01:57:315 (4,1) - 03:19:678 (1,2) - These have a new combo and great distance even though there's no special sound to emphasise. if u notice - I always with the exception of some of course- always have a new combo after 4 - 5 notes so I am not changing the 1st - the 2nd didn't makes since so I did change that
05:01:874 (3,4) - Distance too small. keeping this as is for now

02:08:951 (4,1) - Wierd angle on both the slider (4) and the slider-end to the next note (1), when it's that high speed.
02:11:133 (3,1) - Same ^^
02:13:315 (4,1) - Same again (You will probably say "ohh but it's a repeating pattern" well that doesn't make it a good pattern)
02:16:951 (3,1) - Same again again ^^
02:26:769 (2,3) - 02:32:224 (4,1) - 02:33:496 (3,4,1) - 02:36:951 (3,1) - 02:53:678 (2,3) - 02:56:042 (4,1) - 03:20:042 (4,1) - 04:43:147 (4) - 04:52:602 (5,1) - 04:56:784 (4,1) - 05:00:602 (4,1) - 05:29:511 (3,4) - 05:30:056 (2,3) - 05:36:238 (4,1) -

05:35:147 (2) - Probably the first slider I've seen that's different but I can't believe I'm saying this it actually doesn't fit very well. went out and change this

You might think I'm picky. And I can see this map is for the pro players out there but the thing is while they might seem like they have superhuman circle-clicking skills. Not even them can play a map if it has these weird angles at such high speed. In short, it feels like the map is deliberately trying to break the players flow/combo on too many occasions and on such high speed, combine that with the fact that it feels like the majority is copy pasted and there's alot of work that can be done here It wasn't truely my intentions making it hard to pass even for pro maps - that really just how my mapping style works in general and theses flow problems is what I always deal with but I do not it on purpose - I have at least attempt to fix any flow problems above and hoply this won't cause too much trouble in the near future

Don't think that I'm only here to bash this. It's certainly an impressive map and on the parts where the angles aren't weird, it does play amazingly well!

Thanks for the mod!

Also majority of this map isn't copy and pasted - Not that it means anything but I feels like i need to mention this....

DJ Lucky wrote:

And 01:07:948 (1) - 02:59:224 (8,1) - slider velocity is too slow. When the speed and distance between notes are that great and you have too slow of a slider velocity you will slider break almost every time. Tbh the song goes slow after the stream so it can't be help that much - I don't wish to change the velocity as that means this will affect the spend for the rest of this slow part and having the slider alone faster seems to be off considering this

You do know that maps have actually been disqualified for this in the past right? With circles, it isn't as strict when it comes to sudden slow parts because it's easily readable. But slider velocity doesn't have an approach circle, so if you don't make it painfully obvious that a slider will have low velocity after a really really quick part of a song. Chances are 99% of people slider break on them and loose their combos.
The most famous case of this exact issue happened after the first ever 600+ PP score was set on a ranked map, and shortly thereafter the map was taken down from ranked by a QAT member because of low slider velocity slider breaks. And the score was lost... Thank god we have Cookiezi nowadays who get's 600PP on everything he touches am I right?

DJ Lucky wrote:

01:57:315 (4,1) - 03:19:678 (1,2) - These have a new combo and great distance even though there's no special sound to emphasize. if u notice - I always with the exception of some of course- always have a new combo after 4 - 5 notes so I am not changing the 1st - the 2nd didn't make sense so I did change that

Instead of having a new combo every 4 - 5 notes you should start new combos to emphasize new sounds or different parts of a song, but that's just a tiny detail. The more important issue is that you should always aim to use the length in between objects to emphasize sound.
Forget I ever mentioned new combos if you want to, but imagine the slowest possible song you can.
You got it?
Okay, now imagine that same song but with 1/2 cross-screen snap jumps.
Doesn't fit well does it, yeah... This is why BN's and QAT's push for distance in between notes to fit with the song. I might have used exaggerated language but it doesn't change the fact that it's a pressing issue.

I hope you found this equally helpful!

Maxylan wrote:

DJ Lucky wrote:

And 01:07:948 (1) - 02:59:224 (8,1) - slider velocity is too slow. When the speed and distance between notes are that great and you have too slow of a slider velocity you will slider break almost every time. Tbh the song goes slow after the stream so it can't be help that much - I don't wish to change the velocity as that means this will affect the spend for the rest of this slow part and having the slider alone faster seems to be off considering this

You do know that maps have actually been disqualified for this in the past right? With circles, it isn't as strict when it comes to sudden slow parts because it's easily readable. But slider velocity doesn't have an approach circle, so if you don't make it painfully obvious that a slider will have low velocity after a really really quick part of a song. Chances are 99% of people slider break on them and loose their combos.
The most famous case of this exact issue happened after the first ever 600+ PP score was set on a ranked map, and shortly thereafter the map was taken down from ranked by a QAT member because of low slider velocity slider breaks. And the score was lost... Thank god we have Cookiezi nowadays who get's 600PP on everything he touches am I right?

I never really pay attention to maps disqualifying for stuff like this tbh... If is that big of an issue - I can will change it... not now as this mean I have to use my brain to come up with a way to fix this....
Edit: I change 1 of the issues brought up - I will simply need suggestions how to fix the other issue as I much prefer to keep it the same velocity and the long slider

DJ Lucky wrote:

01:57:315 (4,1) - 03:19:678 (1,2) - These have a new combo and great distance even though there's no special sound to emphasize. if u notice - I always with the exception of some of course- always have a new combo after 4 - 5 notes so I am not changing the 1st - the 2nd didn't make sense so I did change that

Instead of having a new combo every 4 - 5 notes you should start new combos to emphasize new sounds or different parts of a song, but that's just a tiny detail. The more important issue is that you should always aim to use the length in between objects to emphasize sound.
Forget I ever mentioned new combos if you want to, but imagine the slowest possible song you can.
You got it?
Okay, now imagine that same song but with 1/2 cross-screen snap jumps.
Doesn't fit well does it, yeah... This is why BN's and QAT's push for distance in between notes to fit with the song. I might have used exaggerated language but it doesn't change the fact that it's a pressing issue.


I hope you found this equally helpful!

I must have miss that part in ur sentence but tbh there is a sound that justify it being a NC...

- Now I will change the distance just slightly only because compare to how it is right here 02:08:405 (1) - the sound is stronger and this makes since for the Distance and when I go back to here 01:57:315 (4,1) I see the sound is more mild - I have only realize this after this was brought back to my attention

Doing all these changes for this map that only affects it if it was going for rank, makes me wonder if I should just go for rank...

Random modding, cuz was bored.

1. 00:32:467 (4) - 00:37:082 (4) - I think this should be an NC, since this part is mapped with vocal, while the last 3 object before it is mapped to the instrument. (It also makes the NCing consistent.. except if you're looking for variety)
2. 00:42:563 (6) - Hm? Missing NC..
3. 00:49:053 (2,1) - 00:50:496 (8,1) - Inconsitency flow of movement... One of them is a 1/2, while the other is 1/4.
4. 00:49:630 (2) - It'd be nice if you an give some emphasis to it .. This applies to the rest as well (00:52:948 (1,2) - 00:53:525 (1,2) - Like this one is empasized enough due to them being a standalone so you can recognize the sound it mapped to easily)
5. 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You're breaking the pattern too sudden from the usual 00:56:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to 208 bpm stream (I know you're probably aiming to map the riff, but it just doesnt seems to capture the sound for me '~')
6. 00:58:427 (5) - Mssing emphasis
7. 01:11:698 (2,3,1) - Any reason for this obtuse jump? It doesnt play well, and it doesnt suit well with the vocal.
8. 01:21:216 (5) - 01:25:831 (5) - Any reason as to why one of them is a sharp and the other is a curve? There's some more random sharp slider on this section. But I'm pointing the most obvious one.. (You can use the sharp slider, in case there's a difference in the intensity of the song. People tend to use sharp slider, when its a more intense sound)
9. 01:37:561 (1) - The drum is actually on the red tick. I'm sure what you want to mapped to here is the drum since, 01:37:273 (1,2) - is mapped to that drum sound as well. (I would suggest make 2 1/4 slider, so that the sliderhead will always land on the drum sound, while keeping consistent. And avoiding that weird entrance to the stream with slider.) Apply this to the rest as well
10. 01:52:224 - Suggestion. It'll be much better if you make this part a build up for 01:55:315 - instead of making all of them with same intenstiy. (Actually, 01:52:224 - 01:54:633 - have higher intensity, due to higher bpm.)

Unfortunately, I cant do 01:55:315 - 03:29:850 - since I cant do 165 1/4 map. But there's some slider-jump with a really strange angle or distance spacing, like
01:58:405 (2,3,4) - Distance,
01:59:678 (1,2) - 01:59:860 (2,3,4) - 02:00:224 (4,5) - Strange Movement,
02:01:496 (3,4) - Angle + Distance, etc. (I cant really judge it tho, since I cant do this style '~')

1. 03:50:546 (16,1) - 03:51:628 (8,1) - The other is 1/8, and the other one is 1/4. Altho, I guess flow-wise isnt that much of difference. But, playability-wise. 104 bpm 1/8 is quite hard '~'
   
2. 04:41:965 (10) - Why 0.6x distance? If you want to make it so the spacing is gradually increasing but not too much, then make it so 04:41:874 (9,10,11,12) - is 0.6x distance, and then 04:42:238 (13,14,15,16) - 0.7x distance, since changing stream DS in the middle, 1 note at a time, usually result in a weird stream, unless you decided to make it an increasing DS stream from the beginning to the end of the stream. (Also dont forget to NC everytime, you change the DS of the stream, if you follow this mod) (Suggestion : 04:42:238 (13,14,15,16) - Give claps on all of them to emphasize that its the start of the kiai)

I probably missed something a bit. But, that's it. Some of the section is repeating, and mapped with the same concept. So you can just applied those mod to those part.

Overall, I'm sure you can polish the slider shape. Especially, on the 165 bpm part. But then, I cant really mapped a fast song, so who am I kidding? '~'

sullywally wrote:

Random modding, cuz was bored.

1. 00:32:467 (4) - 00:37:082 (4) - I think this should be an NC, since this part is mapped with vocal, while the last 3 object before it is mapped to the instrument. (It also makes the NCing consistent.. except if you're looking for variety) I rather keep the NC as is for now
   
2. 00:42:563 (6) - Hm? Missing NC.. oh shit fix lol
3. 00:49:053 (2,1) - 00:50:496 (8,1) - Inconsitency flow of movement... One of them is a 1/2, while the other is 1/4. Well I wanted to make a well this is like starting a new section with 00:49:053 (2,1) - and I wanted to make a difference - I probably gonna adjust flow because there is stuff I see that is inconsistent with the map as a whole
4. 00:49:630 (2) - It'd be nice if you an give some emphasis to it .. This applies to the rest as well (00:52:948 (1,2) - 00:53:525 (1,2) - Like this one is empasized enough due to them being a standalone so you can recognize the sound it mapped to easily) I kind of want to change this part so not that I disagree with u - I just keeping it like is until my brain can come up with something
5. 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You're breaking the pattern too sudden from the usual 00:56:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to 208 bpm stream (I know you're probably aiming to map the riff, but it just doesnt seems to capture the sound for me '~') Not changing unless get more opinions and suggestions
6. 00:58:427 (5) - Mssing emphasis didn't hear this my bad - still I am not changing the stream until I can come up with an idea to fix it
7. 01:11:698 (2,3,1) - Any reason for this obtuse jump? It doesnt play well, and it doesnt suit well with the vocal. this was mapped to music not the vocals - I have changes this - The change probably didn't help - I just did it cause I didn't like how it look in the get go
8. 01:21:216 (5) - 01:25:831 (5) - Any reason as to why one of them is a sharp and the other is a curve? There's some more random sharp slider on this section. But I'm pointing the most obvious one.. (You can use the sharp slider, in case there's a difference in the intensity of the song. People tend to use sharp slider, when its a more intense sound) I change it to a curve slider and along with a few - and change some curve sliders to sharp sliders that sounds more fitting - I didn't wanted to get rid of them entirely but this way it works better
9. 01:37:561 (1) - The drum is actually on the red tick. I'm sure what you want to mapped to here is the drum since, 01:37:273 (1,2) - is mapped to that drum sound as well. (I would suggest make 2 1/4 slider, so that the sliderhead will always land on the drum sound, while keeping consistent. And avoiding that weird entrance to the stream with slider.) Apply this to the rest as well Ugh... I can't believe I mess up that... anyways I follow the suggestion on this
10. 01:52:224 - Suggestion. It'll be much better if you make this part a build up for 01:55:315 - instead of making all of them with same intenstiy. (Actually, 01:52:224 - 01:54:633 - have higher intensity, due to higher bpm.) I ain't changing this yet but I like the idea so i'm keeping it in mind

Unfortunately, I cant do 01:55:315 - 03:29:850 - since I cant do 165 1/4 map. But there's some slider-jump with a really strange angle or distance spacing, like
01:58:405 (2,3,4) - Distance,
01:59:678 (1,2) - 01:59:860 (2,3,4) - 02:00:224 (4,5) - Strange Movement,
02:01:496 (3,4) - Angle + Distance, etc. (I cant really judge it tho, since I cant do this style '~') I adjusted them slightly

1. 03:50:546 (16,1) - 03:51:628 (8,1) - The other is 1/8, and the other one is 1/4. Altho, I guess flow-wise isnt that much of difference. But, playability-wise. 104 bpm 1/8 is quite hard '~' Eh I forgot to put timing section here whoops! that is actually 208 1/4 not that mean anything to what u just said... - the worst case scenario is the best way to fix this problem is just changing it to a spinner
   - the reason I am not changing this is I see no point unless I was going for rank and this is a reason to keep it from being so
   
2. 04:41:965 (10) - Why 0.6x distance? If you want to make it so the spacing is gradually increasing but not too much, then make it so 04:41:874 (9,10,11,12) - is 0.6x distance, and then 04:42:238 (13,14,15,16) - 0.7x distance, since changing stream DS in the middle, 1 note at a time, usually result in a weird stream, unless you decided to make it an increasing DS stream from the beginning to the end of the stream. (Also dont forget to NC everytime, you change the DS of the stream, if you follow this mod) (Suggestion : 04:42:238 (13,14,15,16) - Give claps on all of them to emphasize that its the start of the kiai)
   I did what u suggestion - didn't add no NCs but probably will - I am not adding claps to all of those notes as I felt it is pointless

I probably missed something a bit. But, that's it. Some of the section is repeating, and mapped with the same concept. So you can just applied those mod to those part.

Overall, I'm sure you can polish the slider shape. Especially, on the 165 bpm part. But then, I cant really mapped a fast song, so who am I kidding? '~'

You ain't wrong about the polishing the slider shapes - This map is still fairly new and even I can still tell they need a bit more work even just for loved status -

thanks for the mod!

Throughout the map there are issues with consistency, you frequently map once sound in a certain manner, then change it the next time the sound reoccurs. This is an important issue to address.

00:31:025 (1,2) - Copy paste the first slider to make the second, there's no reason to make them different

00:37:948 (1,2) - ^

00:40:255 (1,2) - ^ There are more than just these, use Copy + Paste and Rotate in order to create these pairs of sliders. Doing so manually is unsightly.

00:33:909 (2,3) - large distance here to emphasize the snare on 3, but the rest of this section 00:31:601 (2,3) - and 00:36:217 (2,3) - for example, have lower spacing.

01:11:553 (1,2,3,1,2) - make them parallel

01:15:592 (2,3,4,5,6) - even out slider spacings and slider angles,

01:22:947 (3,4) - don't need such a large spacing

01:56:042 (1,2,3,4) - slider shapes in this section are constantly changing, without the song changing much to accompany it. Look into creating more symmetrical and neater structures. Certain patterns are particularly notable in how they are aesthetically unpleasing 02:00:042 (3,4,5) -.

02:01:315 (2,3,4) - Spacing is also of concern here, even out the spacing throughtout the section

02:06:951 (1,2) - make sure you use copy past and rotate more often, as they create better structure, and while things like 02:11:860 (4,5) - look approximately correct, it's both faster and better to make them Copy and pasted.

In terms of structuring and pattern design, take the case of 02:17:133 (1,2,2) -, while it's close, because it's manually made, it's not very pleasing. Rather if you use copy and paste + rotation by 120 degrees, you'll be able to create a perfect triangle, which is much more pleasing to the eye.

02:48:042 (3,1) - you have some stacking issues throughout the song, address these as well 02:50:769 (2,4,2) -

I'll stop here, Many of the things I covered with you in pm, and above are faults that are repeated throughout the map, so you should clean up patterning and structure throughout the map. However despite a lot of issues being present, the map's core concept is strong.

ailv wrote:

Throughout the map there are issues with consistency, you frequently map once sound in a certain manner, then change it the next time the sound reoccurs. This is an important issue to address.

00:31:025 (1,2) - Copy paste the first slider to make the second, there's no reason to make them different done

00:37:948 (1,2) - ^ done

00:40:255 (1,2) - ^ There are more than just these, use Copy + Paste and Rotate in order to create these pairs of sliders. Doing so manually is unsightly.

00:33:909 (2,3) - large distance here to emphasize the snare on 3, but the rest of this section 00:31:601 (2,3) - and 00:36:217 (2,3) - for example, have lower spacing. change the large distance on snare and kept the rest the same since this was intentional

01:11:553 (1,2,3,1,2) - make them parallel change a bit

01:15:592 (2,3,4,5,6) - even out slider spacings and slider angles, adjusted

01:22:947 (3,4) - don't need such a large spacing fix spacing here

01:56:042 (1,2,3,4) - slider shapes in this section are constantly changing, without the song changing much to accompany it. Look into creating more symmetrical and neater structures. Certain patterns are particularly notable in how they are aesthetically unpleasing 02:00:042 (3,4,5) -.

02:01:315 (2,3,4) - Spacing is also of concern here, even out the spacing throughtout the section I am gonna make the spacing I used more sense when I rework this part

02:06:951 (1,2) - make sure you use copy past and rotate more often, as they create better structure, and while things like 02:11:860 (4,5) - look approximately correct, it's both faster and better to make them Copy and pasted.

For this following issues - I am going to rework the here 01:55:315 - to here 02:06:860 - because I am a bit dissatisfied by it
- Every else I will just fix the structure up like u suggest the best way I can

In terms of structuring and pattern design, take the case of 02:17:133 (1,2,2) -, while it's close, because it's manually made, it's not very pleasing. Rather if you use copy and paste + rotation by 120 degrees, you'll be able to create a perfect triangle, which is much more pleasing to the eye. will change

02:48:042 (3,1) - you have some stacking issues throughout the song, address these as well 02:50:769 (2,4,2) - Eh I was thinking of redoing this part of the song anyways since I didn't very much llike how I did this pattern - will fix as much stacking issues that I see

I'll stop here, Many of the things I covered with you in pm, and above are faults that are repeated throughout the map, so you should clean up patterning and structure throughout the map. However despite a lot of issues being present, the map's core concept is strong.

Lot of things I agree with u - I am going to update the map probably in another 2 - 3 hours since I am going to be fixing a lot of stuff

thanks for the mod

EDIT: Taking longer than I anticipated - decided to update anyways but I am not done applying mod or fix other problems in the map just yet...

DJ Lucky wrote:

Lot of things I agree with u - I am going to update the map probably in another 2 - 3 hours since I am going to be fixing a lot of stuff

thanks for the mod

i'm looking forward to it.

Hi

00:32:611 put circle?
00:33:765 - 00:40:688 - 00:42:996 - 00:45:303 put circle and stack with slider 2 for voice sound?
00:37:948 (1,3) fix stack?
01:06:215 (9) move left for better flow
01:17:177 (1) maybe end slider do curve?
01:24:100 (1,2) do distance like on 01:19:485 (1,2) ?
01:36:216 (2) - 01:38:812 (5) - 01:39:966 (1) maybe try stack?
01:44:581 (1) stack with 01:47:273 (2)? and can end slider on 01:44:293 (2) to do so he looked at next slider?
01:46:600 (2) make curve like next little slider?
02:08:042 (1,2,3) - 02:09:496 (1,2,3) - 02:10:587 (1,2,3) - 02:13:496 (1,2,3) - 02:16:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 02:25:496 (3,4,5) - 02:26:951 (3,4,5) - 02:31:315 (1,2,3) - 02:32:769 (1,2,3) - 02:39:678 (1,2,3) slightly different range
02:42:587 (9,1) maybe do far like you do prev time?
02:48:769 (4) copy this slider and ctrl+h - ctrl+j - ctrl+g and put on place next slider (for example x:176 y:240)?
02:52:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) different range
02:58:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ^
03:26:496 (2) move to x:320 y:340 for better distance
04:12:830 (2) move to x:252 y:188 that was like 01:11:697 (2)?
05:17:511 strange start where in next tick he end 05:17:602

CucumberCuc wrote:

Hi

00:32:611 put circle? keep it like it is
00:33:765 - 00:40:688 - 00:42:996 - 00:45:303 put circle and stack with slider 2 for voice sound? I will keep this suggestion in mind but keeping it like it is
00:37:948 (1,3) fix stack? Don't see nothing wrong with it - might had already fix it before mention
01:06:215 (9) move left for better flow adjusted
01:17:177 (1) maybe end slider do curve? change
01:24:100 (1,2) do distance like on 01:19:485 (1,2) ? change
01:36:216 (2) - 01:38:812 (5) - 01:39:966 (1) maybe try stack? did nothing to this
01:44:581 (1) stack with 01:47:273 (2)? and can end slider on 01:44:293 (2) to do so he looked at next slider? change
01:46:600 (2) make curve like next little slider? adjusted
02:08:042 (1,2,3) - 02:09:496 (1,2,3) - 02:10:587 (1,2,3) - 02:13:496 (1,2,3) - 02:16:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 02:25:496 (3,4,5) - 02:26:951 (3,4,5) - 02:31:315 (1,2,3) - 02:32:769 (1,2,3) - 02:39:678 (1,2,3) slightly different range did attempt to fix it
02:42:587 (9,1) maybe do far like you do prev time? change up a bit
02:48:769 (4) copy this slider and ctrl+h - ctrl+j - ctrl+g and put on place next slider (for example x:176 y:240)? did as you said with a few adjustments
02:52:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) different range fix
02:58:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ^ fix
03:26:496 (2) move to x:320 y:340 for better distance change
04:12:830 (2) move to x:252 y:188 that was like 01:11:697 (2)? change
05:17:511 strange start where in next tick he end 05:17:602 Didn't quite get what u mean for a minute there - I still will justt keep it the same as is for now

Thanks for the mod

Hi there! Im here from #modreqs since you requested mods there.

As a suggestion for the diff name, i can say Bunkachou, what is Bunkachou? is the book/notebook where Aya Shameimaru (the girl in the background) saves photos and notes for articles. Oh, and please go for ranked

now, lets get roooooooooight into the mod!

1. 00:31:601 (2) - this slider doesnt fit quite well like that, why not doing this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8797780 or at least doing something similar like in 00:47:178 (1,2)

2. 00:59:437 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - this stream looks kinda bad, maybe because the curve the stream is doing looks/flows bad... why not doing a circle like 01:04:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) ?

3. 01:07:370 (15) - why not doing something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798012

4. 01:19:485 (1,2,3) - this sliders should have the same spacing between them, since they are following the vocals, taking 01:33:332 (1,2,3) as an example

5. 01:24:100 (1,2,3) - same as #4

6. 01:28:717 (1,2,3) - same as #4 too

7. 01:52:224 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 01:54:419 (1,2) - this sliders are... kinda hard to properly SS them, i had to hit the sliders a bit early... why not doing this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798161 (that is just the idea, it doesnt need to look like that)

8. 02:18:042 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks kinda bad, but try to make it look more like a circle, or move 02:18:042 (1,2,3) a bit more down

9. 02:44:587 (5,6) - this doesnt look that nice to play, looks very very hard to be honest... try doing this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798202

10. 03:27:678 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make it look more like a circle, doesnt look very good uwu

11. 03:49:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - this stream doesnt look pretty maybe changing the shape?. Also, in my opinion, delete circle "16", because the transition between that stream and 03:50:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) is waaaaay too difficult man (this is my opinion)

12. 03:50:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fix the curve here, looks kinda bad. take 03:55:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) as an example

13. 04:25:246 (1,2,3) - same reason i said on problem #4

14. 04:29:861 (1,2,3) - same as #4 too

15. 04:47:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make it look exactly like 02:52:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) it will look and flow way better

16. 05:22:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make this stream just a bit wider (especially with the circles 7 and 8), so it can look more circular

17. 05:34:238 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same reason as #16

18. 05:45:874 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this curve looks very weird, fix it so it can be perfect https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798296 (i tried to fix it :p)

Joe Castle wrote:

Hi there! Im here from #modreqs since you requested mods there.

As a suggestion for the diff name, i can say Bunkachou, what is Bunkachou? is the book/notebook where Aya Shameimaru (the girl in the background) saves photos and notes for articles. Oh, and please go for ranked Hmm I will use the difficulty name since it make perfect sense and it not like I came up with something better with just sticking with Extra -

- Idk kind of rather have it loved tbh.. ya know I probably just go for loved as a last resort.

now, lets get roooooooooight into the mod!

1. 00:31:601 (2) - this slider doesnt fit quite well like that, why not doing this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8797780 or at least doing something similar like in 00:47:178 (1,2) change

2. 00:59:437 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - this stream looks kinda bad, maybe because the curve the stream is doing looks/flows bad... why not doing a circle like 01:04:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) ? adjusted the stream - made it curve better and should def flow better

3. 01:07:370 (15) - why not doing something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798012 no change

4. 01:19:485 (1,2,3) - this sliders should have the same spacing between them, since they are following the vocals, taking 01:33:332 (1,2,3) as an example

5. 01:24:100 (1,2,3) - same as #4

6. 01:28:717 (1,2,3) - same as #4 too Did nothing with these suggestions but adjusted them since I think they are fine the way they are

7. 01:52:224 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 01:54:419 (1,2) - this sliders are... kinda hard to properly SS them, i had to hit the sliders a bit early... why not doing this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798161 (that is just the idea, it doesnt need to look like that) I just went on and change the slider velocity to 1x to .8x - whether or not that actually help depends

8. 02:18:042 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks kinda bad, but try to make it look more like a circle, or move 02:18:042 (1,2,3) a bit more down
made it more like a circle

9. 02:44:587 (5,6) - this doesnt look that nice to play, looks very very hard to be honest... try doing this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798202
ik... just change it to a slider and hope this is better

10. 03:27:678 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make it look more like a circle, doesnt look very good uwu change

11. 03:49:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - this stream doesnt look pretty maybe changing the shape?. Also, in my opinion, delete circle "16", because the transition between that stream and 03:50:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) is waaaaay too difficult man (this is my opinion) I figure the stream look ugly - change it up - also I knew that the transition was hard (was pointed out) didn't even think to just get rid of it 16 so change

12. 03:50:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fix the curve here, looks kinda bad. take 03:55:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) as an example change

13. 04:25:246 (1,2,3) - same reason i said on problem #4

14. 04:29:861 (1,2,3) - same as #4 too same as I previously mention

15. 04:47:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make it look exactly like 02:52:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) it will look and flow way better change the spacing but didn't made it look like the other 1

16. 05:22:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make this stream just a bit wider (especially with the circles 7 and 8), so it can look more circular change

17. 05:34:238 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same reason as #16 change

18. 05:45:874 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this curve looks very weird, fix it so it can be perfect https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798296 (i tried to fix it :p) did attempt to fix it

Thanks for the mod

It didnt find much so nice and easy fixing for ya
All the lucks and skills \ o /

Arphimigon wrote:

Lab Mod!

[Bunkachou]
Object at 02:55:769 - should be placed at: [440, 113] currently at: [440, 111] to move in line with slider
Object at 03:10:951 - should be placed at: [302, 190] currently at: [301, 192] to move in line with slider

I hope I didn't malfunction! C:

It didnt find much so nice and easy fixing for ya
All the lucks and skills \ o /

Wow that was short lol - I thought for sure it be longer with this type of map

thanks for mod

Hey saw your NM request

「General」

Try using a 5° Angle on straight sliders like this at 00:53:813


Check AIMod more frequently

「Bunkachou」

01:07:946 (1,2) & 01:09:677 (1,2) - These circles have different rhythm but the same gaps between them, either make the 1/2 beat jump bigger or make the 1/4th smaller
01:12:562 (1,2) & 01:14:293 (1,2) - Same thing

02:01:133 (1) - There is a slightly bigger gap between the stream and the slider

02:12:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try spacing out the stream a bit to match the high velocity sliders
02:17:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same thing
02:35:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^

02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Instead of increasing spacing on this stream, decrease it to signal that the song is slowing down

03:04:769 - Change stream into sliders (shown below) for stamina reasons and the song already has slowed down


01:54:776 - 02:41:860 - There is an entire fast section without Kiai time, please change that
03:16:769 - Start Kiai time here
03:28:405 - End Kiai time here

03:27:678 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Use circular flow into the next slider like this


04:48:329 - 1/8 jumps are near impossible to sightread and play

05:18:420 (2) - I feel like this slider is closer than it should be

05:46:511 - The slider should flow into the next circle and not have to instantly jump to it at a weird angle


That's all I got, good luck on your map

Our Arrival wrote:

Hey saw your NM request

「General」

Try using a 5° Angle on straight sliders like this at 00:53:813


Check AIMod more frequentlythere is nothing wrong in AIMod - What u seeing is just the kiai time and it ain't nothing wrong with it as long as it not abusive

「Bunkachou」

01:07:946 (1,2) & 01:09:677 (1,2) - These circles have different rhythm but the same gaps between them, either make the 1/2 beat jump bigger or make the 1/4th smaller made the 1/4 smaller because I didn't realize
01:12:562 (1,2) & 01:14:293 (1,2) - Same thing

02:01:133 (1) - There is a slightly bigger gap between the stream and the slider opps - change

02:12:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try spacing out the stream a bit to match the high velocity sliders done
02:17:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same thing nothing
02:35:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ done

02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Instead of increasing spacing on this stream, decrease it to signal that the song is slowing down adjusted it here

03:04:769 - Change stream into sliders (shown below) for stamina reasons and the song already has slowed down
eh I prefer the stream - but if others complain that this stream is too much - I will consider

01:54:776 - 02:41:860 - There is an entire fast section without Kiai time, please change that
03:16:769 - Start Kiai time here
03:28:405 - End Kiai time here [/color]

03:27:678 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Use circular flow into the next slider like this
change it

04:48:329 - 1/8 jumps are near impossible to sightread and play yea... I adjusted this - might need more work since this more like a quick fix here

05:18:420 (2) - I feel like this slider is closer than it should beadjusted

05:46:511 - The slider should flow into the next circle and not have to instantly jump to it at a weird angle
change to someting similar

That's all I got, good luck on your map

thanks for the mod

Mod from #ModReq

Sorry for my english , its kinda rusty to be honest
Anyway , hope this will be usefull :3
Loved the Song and the map , i'll be waiting till it gets ranked

AlexTroIIPsy wrote:

Mod from #ModReq

Mod

01:05:639 (1) - This stream is overlappingwith this one 01:05:206 (1) - fix
Also the first one i marked is kinda close compared to the others with 1,76x while the others are at least 2,0x or more
U could also try to make those(Examples:01:03:331 (1) - 01:05:639 (1) - 01:06:360 (1) - ) streams more "round" (More circular , idk if that makes sense , sorry) Try to make more like this one 01:04:052 (1) - It looks a lot smoothier than the others reduce the spacing on all streams - made them look more smoother compare to before
Maybe ctrl + c this 03:13:860 (1) - paste it here 03:14:224 (2) - and ctrl +h and ctrl +j and then just put it back where the other one was change
04:00:570 (1) - this note is kinda weird with this stream , try to change it a lil bit more to the left stream been change up a bit
04:04:465 (1,2,3) - same thing as before about making it more "round" , check if there are more like those fix this problem
04:54:147 (8,1) - 04:48:329 (8,1) - The flow from 8 to 1 in both cases is kinda weird and its a really big spacing compared to the stream b4 , this doesnt happen at other parts like those 04:42:511 (16,1) - 05:05:874 (1) - but the spacing Yea this has been a problem... - I thought I could fix it by just reducing the spacing - I decided to make it similar to the other streams -

Sorry for my english , its kinda rusty to be honest ur english is fine
Anyway , hope this will be usefull :3
Loved the Song and the map , i'll be waiting till it gets ranked

thanks for the mod


I notice nobody mentions the 1 stream in first chorus since it has the same issue but i'm guessing that 1 is ok for the time being until I do a slight remap like I did to the other areas

That's overally an excellent map

00:53:525 (1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - don't place slow circles like this - maybe do this like similiar pattern's are done in rrtyui's Exit This Earth Atomosphere or handsome's Something Just Like This
00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - stream is too round for this spacing, try to make a semicircle
01:04:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - same here, semicircle would be more playable
01:06:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - same
02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - keep it same-spaced
02:44:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same
02:52:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - decrease spacing
02:58:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same
03:27:678 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - keep it same-spaced
03:50:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - same as the first advice
Decrease roundness of some later's streams.
04:41:147 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - here's no reason for spacing change

[ClickMyCircle] wrote:

That's overally an excellent map

00:53:525 (1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - don't place slow circles like this - maybe do this like similiar pattern's are done in rrtyui's Exit This Earth Atomosphere or handsome's Something Just Like This I might check out that map and see how he does it but for now I still prefer it is kept as is
00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - stream is too round for this spacing, try to make a semicircle change a bit
01:04:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - same here, semicircle would be more playable disagree and need more opinons
01:06:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - same same as above
02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - keep it same-spaced
02:44:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same
02:52:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - decrease spacing
02:58:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same
03:27:678 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - keep it same-spaced
03:50:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - same as the first advice
Decrease roundness of some later's streams. same reason as before
04:41:147 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - here's no reason for spacing change there is - the play have just got through with these 04:39:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - so suddenly a space stream out of the blue is annoying - it be better to keep it gradually getting bigger spacing to be prepare for kiai - That oh course isn't the main reason - it gradually getting bigger spacing to go with the music and vocals if u pay close attention

Sorry I disagree with changing the streams like this so I keeping em like it is - thanks for trying

Sorry if my banner is quirky. I am gonna submerge into mapping and modding gradually
From your M4M queue
Since I don't have experience playing 5*+ maps, so mods will focus on the aesthetics and general visualization of the map.
[Comments]
▴Unnecessary double spaces for tags, please check them out: RD-Sounds 凋叶棕 夢
▵03:16:769 (1) - starting from this part the song features guitar heavily, inducing more 1/2 sliders like in 03:17:496 (1) - , to some map-able parts like 03:20:405 (3,4) - would make this part better
[Bunkachou]
▴The map is inconsistent with slider shapes (linear and curved 1/4 sliders). Although there maybe some justifications but they would probably not consistent as well throughout the map. Example include this one: 02:13:133 (3) . Would be better if the slider shape uses like the next section(02:14:224 (1) )

▵01:52:224 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - They have the same sound so don't make the first two look different from the latter two pairs
▴02:06:224 (5) - ctrl+shift+R selection centre, 12 degrees, to make it visually better
▵02:08:133 (2) - Prev: 0.75x Next: 0.73x, make both become 0.72x to fit with 02:07:769 (2) -
▴02:09:315 (3,1) - Why not stack these two overlapped slider?
▵02:10:678 (2) - Prev: 0.75x Next: 0.71x
▴02:14:405 (2) - Make this slider angle better
▵02:16:042 (3) - Considering the slider pairs you have used, try to make this a 180 degree rotation of 02:16:042 (4) -, or vice versa, for map fluency
▴02:22:951 (1) - This slider should not be looking like this, just make it like other ones instead. If not, at least make it like 02:27:315 (1) -
▵02:34:405 (3,1) - Really intriguing slider angle of 3, this should definitely be better if it leads players to move upwards instead of downwards
▴02:45:315 (7,8,1) - They are too further apart
▵02:57:315 (2,3,4) - All of these sliders' angles can be better to be honest
▴02:58:405 (4) - Make this angle better so it slides towards the following streaming section better
▵03:08:042 (1,2) - lower 2, so it flows better, plus it fits the visual look of the next pair
▴03:15:315 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - The song has yet changed from calm to intense part, you should not increase SV here, or you make it a stream, which also provide transitioning of song intensities
▵03:29:133 (3) - NC here and remove the NC 03:29:850 (1) - ?
▴03:57:541 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This looks bizarre, try to make it spirals better maybe?
▵04:06:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above ^
▴04:13:695 (1,2) - This does not fit at all, when other notes are spaced far apart and given these two sounds are very loud
▵04:16:003 (1,2) - Same as above ^
▴04:17:878 (6) - Why not Ctrl+g this?
▵04:35:486 - Since you are following the vocal before 04:35:486, this should be mapped with a note as it has a rather noticeable vocal sound
▴04:47:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This spacing is too hard even for a 6.1* map
▵05:05:147 (9) - NC this?
▴05:22:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as above and above^^
▵05:23:329 - I don't think you need a kiai here, it sounds the same as 03:16:769
▴05:31:147 (4) - I suspect the curvy turn of this slider correspond to the guitar sound, but I don't suggest it because other parts in this kiai section don't follow like that. So it would be weird and random
▵05:37:693 (4,3) - These two sliders' curvature don't really have any backing up from the song
▴05:46:602 (1) - The sudden increse in spacing of this note in this way is not that good in fact
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I hope they can provide support to the map. Thanks for M4Ming with me
Good luck with approval

jack1817 wrote:

Sorry if my banner is quirky. I am gonna submerge into mapping and modding gradually
From your M4M queue
Since I don't have experience playing 5*+ maps, so mods will focus on the aesthetics and general visualization of the map.
[Comments]
▴Unnecessary double spaces for tags, please check them out: RD-Sounds 凋叶棕 夢 got confuse a bit with this so I didn't do anything
▵03:16:769 (1) - starting from this part the song features guitar heavily, inducing more 1/2 sliders like in 03:17:496 (1) - , to some map-able parts like 03:20:405 (3,4) - would make this part better Eh I hear ya a bit - I'm kind of worry of ruining this part so I much rather not use 1/2s why I didn't use it much here - I add 1 more 1/2 but I am not going to add anymore unless I get more creative
[Bunkachou]
▴The map is inconsistent with slider shapes (linear and curved 1/4 sliders). Although there maybe some justifications but they would probably not consistent as well throughout the map. Example include this one: 02:13:133 (3) . Would be better if the slider shape uses like the next section(02:14:224 (1) )
Eh the sliders shapes was intentional made - I guess some might see it random and it makes it look inconsistent so what I did change some that was unnecessary completely and made some patterns more consistent so it should be better now
▵01:52:224 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - They have the same sound so don't make the first two look different from the latter two pairs Copy&Paste them all so they all look the exact same
▴02:06:224 (5) - ctrl+shift+R selection centre, 12 degrees, to make it visually better done
▵02:08:133 (2) - Prev: 0.75x Next: 0.73x, make both become 0.72x to fit with 02:07:769 (2) - done
▴02:09:315 (3,1) - Why not stack these two overlapped slider? not quite sure what u mean't so no change
▵02:10:678 (2) - Prev: 0.75x Next: 0.71x change
▴02:14:405 (2) - Make this slider angle better change
▵02:16:042 (3) - Considering the slider pairs you have used, try to make this a 180 degree rotation of 02:16:042 (4) -, or vice versa, for map fluency kept the same for now until I find a better way to fix it
▴02:22:951 (1) - This slider should not be looking like this, just make it like other ones instead. If not, at least make it like 02:27:315 (1) - change up a bit
▵02:34:405 (3,1) - Really intriguing slider angle of 3, this should definitely be better if it leads players to move upwards instead of downwards change the whole pattern
▴02:45:315 (7,8,1) - They are too further apart change
▵02:57:315 (2,3,4) - All of these sliders' angles can be better to be honest change
▴02:58:405 (4) - Make this angle better so it slides towards the following streaming section better change
▵03:08:042 (1,2) - lower 2, so it flows better, plus it fits the visual look of the next pair change
▴03:15:315 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - The song has yet changed from calm to intense part, you should not increase SV here, or you make it a stream, which also provide transitioning of song intensitiesI disagree a bit - the song does get faster here but at the same I do agree that the pattern I choose was too fast - I change it completely - Now whether it actually help depends and if it doesn't I'll lower the SV from 1x to .8X so it won't be as fast
▵03:29:133 (3) - NC here and remove the NC 03:29:850 (1) - ? Rather not - the NC on the last note is also on a time signature and it represent a completely different sound from the pattern and if I were to actually map the break you probably notice it more
▴03:57:541 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This looks bizarre, try to make it spirals better maybe? change
▵04:06:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above ^ change
▴04:13:695 (1,2) - This does not fit at all, when other notes are spaced far apart and given these two sounds are very loudI disagree on this - not that I had no plan on changing - just not doing it now
▵04:16:003 (1,2) - Same as above ^ same as above
▴04:17:878 (6) - Why not Ctrl+g this? done
▵04:35:486 - Since you are following the vocal before 04:35:486, this should be mapped with a note as it has a rather noticeable vocal sound change and this too similar section
▴04:47:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This spacing is too hard even for a 6.1* map adjusted but I already Nerf this part hard already and I don't want to change too much
▵05:05:147 (9) - NC this? Eh tbh it looks better without the NC
▴05:22:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as above and above^^ Similar to above but this time I kind of don't see how this is hard...
▵05:23:329 - I don't think you need a kiai here, it sounds the same as 03:16:769 Yea you are right... I got rid of it
▴05:31:147 (4) - I suspect the curvy turn of this slider correspond to the guitar sound, but I don't suggest it because other parts in this kiai section don't follow like that. So it would be weird and randomadjusted
▵05:37:693 (4,3) - These two sliders' curvature don't really have any backing up from the song change them
▴05:46:602 (1) - The sudden increase in spacing of this note in this way is not that good in fact I might change this but tbh the last note is a jump and I much rather keep it a jump - need more opinions
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I hope they can provide support to the map. Thanks for M4Ming with me
Good luck with approval

Thanks for the mod

Hey! Quick NM from me. Excuse any language mistakes I make because my English isn't that fluent.


Good Luck with your Map!

Aro wrote:

Hey! Quick NM from me. Excuse any language mistakes I make because my English isn't that fluent.

Bunkachou

00:54:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - they lack emphasis campared to 00:49:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - etc.
Mapping them the same although they are clearly different from each other (and with much stronger sounds) doesn't visualize the song pretty good.
03:50:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 03:55:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ same case they both have different spacing - As much as I would like to agree - there isn't really a good way for me to map this without looking bizzare compare to whole map so I just kept it like this until a idea pop in my head

01:14:437 (2) - I don't know about this one but the strong snare sound is on 1/3 this is not 1/3 I hear it on the blue tick
04:15:426 (1,2) - ^ same as above

01:37:658 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I know you want to emphasize the snare sound, but just ignoring the 1/6 beats isn't quite fitting either this or the stream would look funky and I much rather not as it be losing a lot of emphasis than u really think if I actually map that - I disagree strongly on this

01:53:642 (1,1,1,1,2) - what the? The sounds are clearly on 1/3, please snap the objects to their sounds Well no need to be rude - it was clearly a mistake and most of this map was 1/4 so of course I make them like that - change

In the next section of the song (between the second and third Kia time) you used these space increasing streams but they aren't quite reasonable to me. They give the impression that the end of the stream has much stronger sounds than the beginning, but mostly this isn't the case at all. So the emphasis isn't quite fitting. Also sometimes some circles of those streams are over mapped. meh I much rather not give the stream a constant spacing here since that would just make things harder if I do that- I rather leave the built up and majority of those streams at least, isn't overmap

03:16:496 (3) - over mapped no it isn't
03:21:951 (2) - ^ I agree on this so I change

03:29:405 (4) - what do you think about NC this one so it gets more readable that it has a 2 tick gap and not just only 1 tick. It's hard to read because they have the same screen spacing, also spacing the 4 a more would help fix the spacing here because I haven't realize they were the same -
No NC - I probably will since it still be hard to read

03:49:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I don't know how to feel about this one, but it's oddly over mapped, the week sounds which could be mapped as a stream are on 1/3 and they are really week tbh changing everything here on 1/3 feels so horrible and it play much better what it is right now

Good Luck with your Map!

thanks

Hello mod from my queue~
Good luck!

Hiiiii

I like the music *w* Good map!

TheKingHenry wrote:

Hello mod from my queue~

Bunkachou

1. Check AiMod for unsnapped objects
2. The 208 bpm point at 00:57:563 - (or more like the latter one) is pointless since it's covered by the first one. Althought being completely honest, the first 104 bpm red point is useless too since the section is covered by the 208 anyways (and with 208 you don't have uneven measure at 00:56:409 - ) If you want to have slower SV, you can just use green points instead of abusing red points
   I wasn't really abusing red point for SV change since I can easily have the same SV by doubling it (it was going faster now slower) just some people complain that the song need 208 timing points for 1/8 so I change it even if I did saw it as pointless - I got rid of all red timing points like this and everything is just 104
3. 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I don't think this is smooth curve, maybe fixerino? That being´said, while 00:58:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - are smooth curve, they aren't still completely creating the opening circle type stuff you look like you are trying to do here
4. 00:59:292 (9) - NC the upbeats instead. Also preferably keep the combos at 8 (actually 7 here since one kickslider) since that's what you did with the first ones. So NC at 00:59:870 (7) - too. And then switch the current NC to the upbeat at 01:00:447 (15) - again. And so on, fix all of the section I keeping the nc the same for now
5. 01:09:678 (1,2) - vs 01:07:946 (1,2) - these have very similar spacing, not really good idea. 01:12:563 (1,2) - this for example would be good solution
6. Just noticed, why'd you change back to the 104 bpm at 01:12:563 (1,2) - . The bpm is very much consistent, so either use the 104 or the 208 for as long as it's the correct one look above for what I did with the timing
7. for the stream section again (tho 1/3 this time) NC the white ticks instead (the music isn't really supporting the current NC system here either). So basically NC at 01:36:215 (2,2,2) - and so on. Tho unlike the last one, here you could perhaps slighlty repattern this as well due the 1/3. The currently NCd objects are actually the last ones of the last measures instead of being the beginnings of the next ones, so it would be good idea to pattern is somehow that would implement that. Tho tbh if you don't want to, it's fine to just tune the NC, it will make the structure clear enough. Same as before with the NCs - I will probably in end up changing them tho
8. That being said, for 01:37:370 (2,2) - it would be good idea to pattern it differently, since currently there is like no spacing from the circles to the snare sounds that should be emphasised. So basically would be good idea to space 'em here somehow, maybe in similar fashion how you treat your 165 1/4 later in the map (02:33:860 (1,2) - what I mean) I rather just keep the circles like it is tbh
9. All those gibberish timing points before the 165 bpm at 01:55:297 - are unnecessary. Just add one 165 (or to be exact, 164,650) bpm one to 01:49:485 - and it lines up. Covers the music, and does it in a way that stuff actually emphasises the right places (see for example the drum at 01:52:224 - leading to the 1st white tick at the sliderhead of 01:52:404 (2) - and so on. change
10. 01:52:404 (2,2,2,1) - all these sliders have no sound on their tail, and I think it would be better to just map them as circles. Also, 01:54:971 (1,2,3,4,5) - aren't the correct rhythm. With the correct time this part is the last beat before the beginning of a new measure. And the rhythm is basically just 1/4 (although I'd say there's only triple worth of audible stuff, but I guess it could be possible to map smth like 2 circles + kickslider for some emphasis)
11. 02:00:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - for these I'd personally NC 02:00:769 (3) - instead, but as kinda of separate pattern like this here, this will go too I guess
12. 02:33:678 (4,2) - fix stack? fix
13. 02:39:315 (3,1) - overlap kinda standing out. Speaking of overlaps, very minor overlaps like 02:40:133 (2,1) - don't really look good even if intended, since they just look more like accident nevertheless change a bit
14. 02:41:769 (6,1) - definitely nerf this spacing lmao nerf again...
15. For the stream section, basically the same NC drill again
16. 02:43:497 (5,6,7,8) - not looking good here (actually looks more like the stream is kinda getting straight) fix
17. 02:49:496 (3,4,1) - I don't think this is going to flow well, like you are forcing the player to follow sliders back-and-forth. For most part you've been using fairly smooth flow circular flow. Tho tbh I think it's better if you go stuff like flow of these sections with guys that can actually play the map well enough to see what's what change a bit
18. 03:04:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - not exactly pure 1/6 here, but the strings are rhythmically pretty fucked up so, uh, whatever Just kept it the same lol
19. 03:29:133 (3) - maybe NC to indicate the new beginning of the rhythm you just introduced change since it been needing to be change
20. 03:49:465 - okay the hell's up with the switching between these 2 bpms again lol. Like, at 03:59:271 - for example, red timing point for 1 (or 2) beats. Uh
21. For the stream section, apply the stuff that's somewhere above in this mod. 04:09:079 (1,2,1,2) - also seem like pretty much the same as the couple I mentioned earlier too
22. 04:41:874 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - tune this slightly so that it's actualy somewhat more the shape of circle, the patterns gonna be pretty cool tbh. change it slightly
23. 04:47:965 (4,5,6,7,8) - this curve could use some tuning too (I guess it needs to be tuned more already from the root since it's kinda running out of space tbh) change it a bit
24. 04:58:420 (4,3,1) - fix stack. Same with 05:01:147 (4,2) - and 05:02:784 (5,4) - and probably many others too tbh, but it's not like I can catch everything
25. 05:45:874 (1,2,3) - there's actually 1/6 under this triple (4 notes instead of 3 basically) if you wanna do smth with them
    kept it the same

Good luck!

Thanks for the mod

Lorkee wrote:

Hiiiii

Bunkachou

1. 00:31:025 (1,2) - You can make these cooler by copying one of them and replacing the other one. (You can rotate it by using ctrl+shift+r combination!) idk I kept changing it back and forth since it was either copying it or make (2) different - so I ain't changing this time
2. 00:32:755 (5,3) - Same^, but rework these by making them symmetrical! rather keep it the same
3. 00:49:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't think it's good to overlap these, cuz you have a lot of free space since it's a non intense part. moved
4. 00:52:948 (1,2,1,2) - I understand this part, but you when had the same guitar sounds (00:50:640 - 00:51:794 -) you didn't emphasized them. It's ok if you want to keep it. keeping it the same
5. 00:53:813 (1) - It's not snapped on 00:53:957 - been change
6. 00:54:101 (1,2) - It's different from the rest of the jumps. they are change
7. 00:55:255 (1,2) - ^
8. 00:56:409 (1,2) - ^
9. 01:22:370 (2) - Make it symmetrical!
10. 01:27:563 (3) - ^ This applies to all of these type of sliders.
11. 02:33:678 (4,2) - Overlap?
12. 03:00:405 (4,5,1) - Do it as a straight line! done
13. 03:46:003 (1,1,1) - El triangel desu ne would be cool. D: change slightly
14. 03:49:465 - I would put one more circle here, and then start the spinner from 03:49:537 - no change
15. 04:09:079 (1,2) - Stack these or larger spacing is ok too. change

I like the music *w* Good map!

thanks for the mod

- I may or may have miss some stuff along as I replying to both of you but it not like I didn't apply it or anything...

Why not the previous background? Imo it looked better :>

DominiGG wrote:

Why not the previous background? Imo it looked better :>

I wanted to use it for a demetori song of the same character because after I had listen to this with the lyrics in all - the background really isn't that fitting for the song so I change it

Hi

00:34:486 (3) - make it more spaced because of strong sound
00:39:101 (3) - ^
00:41:409 (3) - -
00:43:717 (3) - - (and more)
00:58:716 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - sound is growing, isn't it should have different spacing than this 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) ?
01:35:351 (6) - maybe you not gonna stack it? Because it's very uncomfortable to read, also you can follow it and circular flow.
01:35:638 (1,2,3) - all your streams are the same until bpm change, it's boring to play if there is no difference in them, +its kiai, maybe you could make a difference?
01:55:860 (4) - make it face it towards this 01:56:042 (1) slider, for making it more readable
01:58:769 (4,1) - very uncomfortable flow, most players will click fast slider rather than follow them fully, I suggest you can change the angle
02:08:951 (4) - ^
02:09:860 (1,2) - strange flow
02:11:133 (3,1) - ^
03:23:133 (4,1) - ^
02:16:042 (3,4) - ^
02:11:678 (3,4) - okey, if you changing the pattern, 02:11:860 (4,5) why this have the different spacing than?
02:12:678 (6,1) -
02:17:860 (2) - you can make it more special, I mean different shape
02:41:133 (2) - ^
02:31:678 (1) - this have different flow, 02:31:860 (2,3) but they follow normal, why ??!?!?
02:46:042 (1,1) - - increase spacing between them a little bit more
02:54:042 (4,1) - okey wtf
03:28:405 (1) - reverse?

Nice alternate map

DendyMudak wrote:

Hi

00:34:486 (3) - make it more spaced because of strong sound
00:39:101 (3) - ^
00:41:409 (3) - -
00:43:717 (3) - - (and more) change all spacing here
00:58:716 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - sound is growing, isn't it should have different spacing than this 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) ?
I slightly disagre to this - I want the spacing on this 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) bigger because it isn't exactly constant like the other stream and reducing the spacing would lose the emphasis to this part - plus the other part to the stream is almost the hardest part in the map so I didn't wanted the spacing to be bigger than the other because it would just make it even harder as well but I have no problem changing it if it gathers more complains
01:35:351 (6) - maybe you not gonna stack it? Because it's very uncomfortable to read, also you can follow it and circular flow. change it
01:35:638 (1,2,3) - all your streams are the same until bpm change, it's boring to play if there is no difference in them, +its kiai, maybe you could make a difference? I'll think of somethign but for now this part is staying the same
01:55:860 (4) - make it face it towards this 01:56:042 (1) slider, for making it more readable
01:58:769 (4,1) - very uncomfortable flow, most players will click fast slider rather than follow them fully, I suggest you can change the angle change
02:08:951 (4) - ^ I don't see much problem here
02:09:860 (1,2) - strange flow I don't see how strange this 1 is but I might change it only because this is the only time I did the flow like this
02:11:133 (3,1) - ^ change
03:23:133 (4,1) - ^ change slightly
02:16:042 (3,4) - ^ change slightly
02:11:678 (3,4) - okey, if you changing the pattern, 02:11:860 (4,5) why this have the different spacing than? didn't pay attention - change
02:12:678 (6,1) - change a bit even tho I didn't see a problem here
02:17:860 (2) - you can make it more special, I mean different shape kept the same shape
02:41:133 (2) - ^ ^
02:31:678 (1) - this have different flow, 02:31:860 (2,3) but they follow normal, why ??!?!? I don't see the big deal here but I change it so it looks and flow better
02:46:042 (1,1) - - increase spacing between them a little bit more change
02:54:042 (4,1) - okey wtf I don't see much of an issue here but I might change this consider this may play weird since I didn't do this pattern often/consistently
03:28:405 (1) - reverse? it is better like it is

Nice alternate map

thanks for the mod

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Hope the mod helps !
im bad at modding

-Latias- wrote:

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only diff

- When u emphasize points like 00:32:178 (3) - 00:34:486 (3) - I found them to be very inconsistent with the amount of spacing. for example 00:32:178 (3) - 00:36:794 (3) - both have a circle emphasizing the same sound but have diffrent spacing between both of them, 00:34:486 (3) - 00:39:101 (3) - slider instead of the circle here, but both have different distances between them. you can use a unique slider shape to differentiate sliders like 00:34:486 (3) - 00:39:101 (3) - which would emphasize that sound even further.00:41:409 (3) -, Also flow here kinda confuses me when compared to other places like 00:32:178 (3) - which the slider before it flows directly in to here. Probably just a flow mistake I made all the spacing the exact same -
Not sure about changing the slider shapes but I did fix that flow mistake though
- 00:49:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Ahhhhh, bad mapping choice imo since this is a really calm part of the song and mapping it to a stream doesn't feel right to me. What you can do is map 00:49:486 (1,2) - to circles and have 00:49:774 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - a 1/4 sliders, so that you can have that 1/4 sound mapped to, but also making the rythem density lower to match this section of the song I disagree here - I really don't like the idea of using sliders for this part and I really think the stream right here works here instead of sliders since sliders don't really help u get prepare for the streams section that is soon to come
- 00:53:092 (2) - Missing hitsound here add
- 00:58:716 (1) - The stream starting here should have more distance to hit like what 00:58:139 (1) - did for the stream
- 01:07:947 (1,2) - You can make this a smaller version of 01:09:678 (1,2) - since they're mapped to relatively the same sound with 01:09:678 (1,2) - being louder keeping this like it is for now
- 01:11:553 (1,2,3) - Sound is unique here so instead of doing the jump pattern you've been using u can use something like rather have it like it is this
-01:12:563 (1,2) - is a lot more louder than 01:07:947 (1,2) - but mapped the same way
-01:15:448 (1) - A lot quieter than 01:15:592 (2) - yet stacked. I would sepearate them to where there a lot of distance needed to click 01:15:592 (2) - since its a prominent sound and 01:15:448 (1) - is very weak just having it like it is here
-01:15:448 (1) - Important sound mapped to slider reverse doesn't give that sound a lot of emphasise keeping like this only cause I didn't have really a better way to map this part
-01:29:005 (2,3) - 2 is a lot stronger than 3 yet the distance to get to 01:29:005 (2) - is the same as 01:29:294 (3) - I wasn't going to change until realize that it was 1/4 and the spacing didn't make much sense as the same so it been change slightly
-01:44:869 (1,2,3,4) - Music is a lot stronger here so I would space this stream out more change
-01:54:394 (1,2) - Slider here should be something like 01:52:212 (1,2) - since nothing significant has changed in the music. This would also make 01:52:212 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - different from 01:54:939 - since you would use only straight sliders while 01:54:939 - uses primarily curve sliders change
-02:00:769 (3,4,5,6) - 02:06:587 (3,4,5,6) - etc -Normally, stream changes spacing because intensity changes, but in this case it doesn't and feels really unsupported to me Since my idea of making it easier for the player while still having the space streams I want didn't work out great (probably was just a stupid idea to begin with) - I made every single stream space except for the couple that did make sense
02:47:678 (1,2) - 02:55:860 (3,4) - Straight slider in an area where you primarlly use curved sliders, you should know what to do at this point You want me to get rid of every single slider that not curve here or something? because if I do that it would just make this part boring -
Now what I can do instead is by making it have more sense by adding more and changing certain patterns but I ain't going to get rid of them without a reason other than the area is primarily curved sliders because then i'll get mods saying that the kiai section is boring and need variety
I'll stop at here since most of the other things I found wrong I already listed in some form or another. The main problem with this map is the lack of consistency in some areas and wrongly using emphasise or not enough emphasise at all.

Hope the mod helps !
im bad at modding

Alrighty thanks for the mod

Hi from mod queue

[Bunkachou]

First of all I wanna say, the ideas are cool and the map really have potential but a lot of parts feel a bit... emmm away from the song. Like not really following the main instruments of the song and having a very repetitive drum rhythm which is kinda sad since the song is really cool and have a lot of really cool stuff that isnt really represented by the map in a bunch of part.

Also the ''alternating style'' of the map have some part where the slider leniency make some slider not feel super great.
I'll try to point as much as I can to help x)

1. 00:33:765 - Ok so here in the intro before starting the map you actually wait that the vocal start but you dont really map the vocal. I'd be cool to map places like this with a circle stacked on the next slider head or something similar.
2. 00:36:073 - 00:35:063 (1) - 00:42:996 - 00:45:303 - ^
3. 01:20:496 - Here this vocal is really strong maybe you could make a jump on it that would contrast with the current movement. Not mapping vocals like this in a part like this is making the part feel a bit plain and repetitive.
4. 01:24:678 (3) - Here I'd recommend changing the repeat slider to have the vocal here 01:25:111 - mapped. Then you'd just need to put another circle here 01:25:255 - to catch the drum that was initially mapped to the slider repeat. The circle you'll put here 01:25:255 - could be stacked with the next one to not put too much emphasis on it since it was a slider end initially.
5. 01:29:726 - Vocal to map here would prolly feel great mapped as a jump since its a really strong vocal too
6. 01:34:919 - Here changin the repeat to map the vocal would be great but since its weak you might want to make it mapped similar to those 01:33:909 (3,4) -
7. 01:40:253 (1) - From this point in this part, could prolly increase the SV just a little here to emphasize the fact that vocal start and make the spacing of the stream a little larger. Could maybe make changes in direction in the stream on vocals but maybe it would fuck up the streams too much tho.
8. 01:44:869 (1) - Increase again with the increase of intensity of both the instruments and vocal.
9. 01:47:176 (1) - And then from here prolly decrease as the vocals come back to normal.
10. 01:55:315 (1,2,3,4) - Here's where the biggest problems of the map start. First of all those slider curvature are totally random lol. You could prolly copy past them when you want to make them similar and rotate then the way you want them. Also, with slider leniency, those spacing between slider feel a bit off. They kinda make the motion a lot of start and stop and its kinda annoying. And would be great if you could take in consideration the vocals in that part too in a way.
11. 02:16:951 (3) - Up to here the whole map makes pretty much the same rhythm since the 165 bpm part started and it kinda feel like the vocals are completyl ignored through that whole part. Other than like the increased SV and the general spacing of the jump here 02:06:951 (1) - when the part have a bit of a more intense feel.
12. 02:17:133 (1,1,2,1,2) - This is actually cool owo
13. 02:18:587 (1) - SV should prolly be decreased a bit here since intensity kinda go back lower a bit maybe at 1.1 since its not quite the same as this 01:55:315 (1) -
14. 02:42:769 (1,2,3) - This jump here is great to emphasize the vocal so why not reproduce that here 02:44:224 (2,3,4) -
15. 02:48:587 (3) - It would be better to map those two vocal clickable and make those two circle 02:48:405 (1,2) - a slider to emphasize the vocals better
16. 02:49:860 (1,2,3) - Same
17. 02:54:224 (1,2,3) - Same
18. 02:55:678 (1,2,3) - Same
19. 03:18:042 (4) - Now in this part would be great to emphasize the guitar since its the main insturment of that part so maybe map those as two circle instead
20. 03:18:951 (1,2) - Those aswell for the same reason. Here I'd suggest, if you map those two slider as 4 circles to make them in pair of two with jumps to follow what the guitar does kinda.
21. 03:22:587 (1) - And here the spacing of those slider jump could prolly reflect more that the guitar does
22. 04:21:640 - Back to those unmapped vocal. Should map them similarly to those earlier 01:20:496 -
23. 04:26:255 - Those repeat same as earlier
24. 04:30:871 - Same
25. 04:43:329 (1,2,3) - Same as the previous chorus
26. 04:44:784 (1,2,3) - Same
27. 04:49:147 (1,2,3) - Same
28. 04:50:602 (1,2,3) - Same
29. 04:54:238 (1) - Here I think he'd be great to have an increase in SV and spacing till the end of that kiai prolly to reflect the intensity increase
30. 04:54:965 (1,2,3) - Same rhythm thing as before
31. 04:56:420 (1,2,3) - Same
32. 05:00:783 (1,2,3) - Same
33. 05:02:238 (1,2,3) - Same
    
    And I think thats pretty much it. I aslo didnt point out the places where I felt slider leniancy was causing weird stuff with the spacing of some slider jump. Just to give an exemple of that I mean. 05:00:965 (3,4) - When slider heads are close like that, the slider leniancy will make the jump to the next slider almost inexistant, basicly the player wont aim the first slider and go straight to the next one and it create and awkward stopping moment on the next note kinda feel and it should prolly be avoided to have kinda really close slider head from each other when doing alternating style mapping unless its intentionally creating that feel.
    
    

Hope this can help you. I kinda wrote a lot sorry

Shanipika wrote:

Hi from mod queue

[Bunkachou]

First of all I wanna say, the ideas are cool and the map really have potential but a lot of parts feel a bit... emmm away from the song. Like not really following the main instruments of the song and having a very repetitive drum rhythm which is kinda sad since the song is really cool and have a lot of really cool stuff that isnt really represented by the map in a bunch of part.

Also the ''alternating style'' of the map have some part where the slider leniency make some slider not feel super great.
I'll try to point as much as I can to help x)

1. 00:33:765 - Ok so here in the intro before starting the map you actually wait that the vocal start but you dont really map the vocal. I'd be cool to map places like this with a circle stacked on the next slider head or something similar.
2. 00:36:073 - 00:35:063 (1) - 00:42:996 - 00:45:303 - ^ chage
3. 01:20:496 - Here this vocal is really strong maybe you could make a jump on it that would contrast with the current movement. Not mapping vocals like this in a part like this is making the part feel a bit plain and repetitive. preferably not
4. 01:24:678 (3) - Here I'd recommend changing the repeat slider to have the vocal here 01:25:111 - mapped. Then you'd just need to put another circle here 01:25:255 - to catch the drum that was initially mapped to the slider repeat. The circle you'll put here 01:25:255 - could be stacked with the next one to not put too much emphasis on it since it was a slider end initially. keeping it the same for now - changing it differently when I update
5. 01:29:726 - Vocal to map here would prolly feel great mapped as a jump since its a really strong vocal too will think about it
6. 01:34:919 - Here changin the repeat to map the vocal would be great but since its weak you might want to make it mapped similar to those 01:33:909 (3,4) -
7. 01:40:253 (1) - From this point in this part, could prolly increase the SV just a little here to emphasize the fact that vocal start and make the spacing of the stream a little larger. Could maybe make changes in direction in the stream on vocals but maybe it would fuck up the streams too much tho.
8. 01:44:869 (1) - Increase again with the increase of intensity of both the instruments and vocal.
9. 01:47:176 (1) - And then from here prolly decrease as the vocals come back to normal. i'll consider it
10. 01:55:315 (1,2,3,4) - Here's where the biggest problems of the map start. First of all those slider curvature are totally random lol. You could prolly copy past them when you want to make them similar and rotate then the way you want them. Also, with slider leniency, those spacing between slider feel a bit off. They kinda make the motion a lot of start and stop and its kinda annoying. And would be great if you could take in consideration the vocals in that part too in a way. For 1 the sliders were copy paste at first and not random at all. The only reason that is not the case anymore is simply because I am constantly having to change stuff so it better for to polish the map when I pretty much have nothing left to change which I think is a legitimate reason not to do so now - also hard to really map to the vocals tbh - I really feel like the sliders already emphasize the vocals enough without flat out ignoring them
11. 02:16:951 (3) - Up to here the whole map makes pretty much the same rhythm since the 165 bpm part started and it kinda feel like the vocals are completyl ignored through that whole part. Other than like the increased SV and the general spacing of the jump here 02:06:951 (1) - when the part have a bit of a more intense feel. I disagree on this - There really isn't much to do with the vocals here unless you asking me to put in some 1/2 sliders which is a big no no in this map - I feel if I try to put them in here it would just be a awkward mess and it better off left alone than to ruin it - the vocals work perfectly fine with the sliders like is now and it not being completely ignore like u are telling me or else I would had found a way to do so if it was
    -
12. 02:17:133 (1,1,2,1,2) - This is actually cool owo
13. 02:18:587 (1) - SV should prolly be decreased a bit here since intensity kinda go back lower a bit maybe at 1.1 since its not quite the same as this 01:55:315 (1) - i'll change it but not now
14. 02:42:769 (1,2,3) - This jump here is great to emphasize the vocal so why not reproduce that here 02:44:224 (2,3,4) - change
15. 02:48:587 (3) - It would be better to map those two vocal clickable and make those two circle 02:48:405 (1,2) - a slider to emphasize the vocals better
16. 02:49:860 (1,2,3) - Same
17. 02:54:224 (1,2,3) - Same
18. 02:55:678 (1,2,3) - Same going through a rework to all kiai sections and keeping this suggestion in mind because that what was going for but I didn't really realize I fuck up on it so yea.. this is def gonna be change soon
19. 03:18:042 (4) - Now in this part would be great to emphasize the guitar since its the main insturment of that part so maybe map those as two circle instead I'll be reworking this sections after i'm done reworking all the other sections
20. 03:18:951 (1,2) - Those aswell for the same reason. Here I'd suggest, if you map those two slider as 4 circles to make them in pair of two with jumps to follow what the guitar does kinda.
21. 03:22:587 (1) - And here the spacing of those slider jump could prolly reflect more that the guitar does
22. 04:21:640 - Back to those unmapped vocal. Should map them similarly to those earlier 01:20:496 -
23. 04:26:255 - Those repeat same as earlier
24. 04:30:871 - Same
25. 04:43:329 (1,2,3) - Same as the previous chorus
26. 04:44:784 (1,2,3) - Same
27. 04:49:147 (1,2,3) - Same
28. 04:50:602 (1,2,3) - Same
29. 04:54:238 (1) - Here I think he'd be great to have an increase in SV and spacing till the end of that kiai prolly to reflect the intensity increase
30. 04:54:965 (1,2,3) - Same rhythm thing as before
31. 04:56:420 (1,2,3) - Same
32. 05:00:783 (1,2,3) - Same
33. 05:02:238 (1,2,3) - Same
    
    And I think thats pretty much it. I aslo didnt point out the places where I felt slider leniancy was causing weird stuff with the spacing of some slider jump. Just to give an exemple of that I mean. 05:00:965 (3,4) - When slider heads are close like that, the slider leniancy will make the jump to the next slider almost inexistant, basicly the player wont aim the first slider and go straight to the next one and it create and awkward stopping moment on the next note kinda feel and it should prolly be avoided to have kinda really close slider head from each other when doing alternating style mapping unless its intentionally creating that feel.
    It was intentional - I thought it be cool like that but I didn't really fully implemented into the map so it was half-assed - it going through a rework anyways so I am either going to have the slider heads close like that to where it make sense or would get rid of them completely
    

Hope this can help you. I kinda wrote a lot sorry

Just so you know not everything I wrote in red is something I disagree with - Just didn't want to use a different color for stuff I ain't changing right away...
also a lot of ur point I didn't reply to I agree with just got lazy at the end..

Thanks for the mod

I modded this once but im really loving this map so i'll make another mod , sadly i cant get any kudosu of it but i can give u 1priority star if u want :3
Thats it
i dont think that u'll need a star from me cuz u already have some so u can call a BN whenever u want
Good luck with it <3

AlexTroIIPsy wrote:

I modded this once but im really loving this map so i'll make another mod , sadly i cant get any kudosu of it but i can give u 1priority star if u want :3

Mod

First look at thos 2
Both have a good shape (can get better tho) but look at this last one

U can see some flaws in the angles and the DS (just 0.2 or 0.3x but it'd better if u changed)
I recommend u to fix it using the command Ctrl + shift + F to turn sliders into perfect shapped streams (u can even do jumps and other things with this command but nvm it)
00:50:640 (1) -
00:49:486 (1) -
00:51:794 (1) - (The streams from the prints in the order they appear)


I loved the first one , try to use it as a example to a "perfect stream" (at least it is in my perspective)
U can see that another flaw appeared in the second print here , idk if it was intentional or its really a flaw but it'd better being more round (The flow is good tho but the aesthetics arent that beautiful) (idk if i wrote "aesthetics" correct , sorry ) I adjusted it to be more curve
There r more like those so u better check it OwO check and fix those that I felt needed to be change
01:11:553 (1,2,1) - Make a perfect line with those attemped
01:07:947 (1,2) - 01:12:563 (1,2) - 01:14:871 (1,2) - Try to put all those with the same DS (The DS of each one rn is 0,22 , 0,19 and 0,23 , its a small difference but meh :v i guess it'd be good) change
01:27:563 (3,4) - 01:31:602 (2,3) - Maybe same shape? Idk , i dont think it'll change anything but its ur choice made them more similar for now
01:35:640 (1) - U also have some streams to fix in this section of the map (and probably in the others so i wont say it here , pay attention to some angles , flaws on the DS and weird shapes on the stream) fix some - will change some more if it too problematic
03:13:860 (1,2) - Copy and paste the first one in the place of the second and rotate with ctrl + h and ctrl + j
05:18:056 (4,1) - i liked it but i think that the flow might be kinda weird to play adjusted this
05:20:965 (4,1) - 05:26:784 (4,1) - Those the same conceptand the one b4 i think but the flow is more direct so its better i guess kept as is for now

Thats it
i dont think that u'll need a star from me cuz u already have some so u can call a BN whenever u want
Good luck with it <3

thanks for the mod again (I actually tried but had a couple of them saying they didn't like the map so I am just getting more mods until a BN show up eventually)

Just passing by to say that this part of my mod
"05:20:965 (4,1) - 05:26:784 (4,1) - Those the same conceptand the one b4 i think but the flow is more direct so its better i guess kept as is for now"
I typed it wrongly , it was nothing to change , i was just comparing those to the one i said b4 (about the flow)
Sometimes i dont pay attention to what i write , i even rechecked to see if i had any mistakes but i didnt see this one

hi, m4m

bunkachou:

1. um, i don't understand why you didn't start mapping earlier
2. 00:53:236 - 00:53:380 - these sounds are the same as these 00:50:928 (3,4) - , you should not ignore them
3. 00:54:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - guitar, which you are trying to represent here starts at (3), so you should show difference between 1-2 and 3-4-5-6-7-8 (and 5-6 is different pitch, you probably could show that too)
4. 00:58:717 - kiai starts here, but it feels the same as whats before it. Showing contrasts between these parts (before-kiai and kiai) would be cool emphasize of intensity
5. 02:00:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - why you don't keep consistent distance between circles (comparing to this 01:57:860 (3,4,5) - for example)
6. 02:22:951 (1,2,3,4,5) - these seem a bit random
7. 02:42:587 (9,3) - you emphasize drums and vocal the same way, it feels weird
8. 03:04:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - you probably should show somehow that its 1/6 stream
9. 04:10:955 (2) - hm, try to make slow slider here, would be cool emphasize to guitar
10. 04:17:301 (4,5,6) - broken rhythm, if you follow drums, try to change (4) to 2 circles
11. 04:36:784 - red and green timing points must have same volume set
12. 05:40:784 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - imo would be cooler if you emphasized guitar here

Fun map, i wish it was less random and more structered and and organised visually . Hope this helped, good luck!

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:

hi, m4m

bunkachou:

1. um, i don't understand why you didn't start mapping earlier I prefer to start my maps when the vocals start which in this song I don't see much of a problem with me doing that
2. 00:53:236 - 00:53:380 - these sounds are the same as these 00:50:928 (3,4) - , you should not ignore them I ignore them because I wanted emphasis on the strong beats and I couldn't have that if those were map
3. 00:54:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - guitar, which you are trying to represent here starts at (3), so you should show difference between 1-2 and 3-4-5-6-7-8 (and 5-6 is different pitch, you probably could show that too) I might change but the pattern is already kind of hard so I don't wanna change it at the same time-
4. 00:58:717 - kiai starts here, but it feels the same as whats before it. Showing contrasts between these parts (before-kiai and kiai) would be cool emphasize of intensity Tbh there isn't no other way for to represent this without it being too hard and the other idea I have which is to simple reduce the spacing on the stream before kiai I rather not do but will consider it
5. 02:00:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - why you don't keep consistent distance between circles (comparing to this 01:57:860 (3,4,5) - for example) because they are representing different sounds (one is the drum and the other vocal/drum) ya know what I just said didn't made sense so I am going to change it lol
6. 02:22:951 (1,2,3,4,5) - these seem a bit random not really random - the first slider was to represent the strong vocal but I do agree that rest I represent look kind of weird so I did adjusted so it won't look random
7. 02:42:587 (9,3) - you emphasize drums and vocal the same way, it feels weird Wasn't exactly focusing on the vocals here and I don't see how it is weird
8. 03:04:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - you probably should show somehow that its 1/6 stream just reduce the spacing a bit
9. 04:10:955 (2) - hm, try to make slow slider here, would be cool emphasize to guitar rather just keep it like it is
10. 04:17:301 (4,5,6) - broken rhythm, if you follow drums, try to change (4) to 2 circles I will change this my own way - as I don't want to ruin it (I know it is a problem for the longest but I don't like the suggestions I get for it but it not like I won't change it)
11. 04:36:784 - red and green timing points must have same volume set opps
12. 05:40:784 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - imo would be cooler if you emphasized guitar here I rather keep it focus to the drum and keep it simple

Fun map, i wish it was less random and more structered and and organised visually . Hope this helped, good luck!

I disagree that it is random - it just that the type style I ended up using was messier than I attended for this song so it just feel that way - Ya should had look at this when it was first made lmao (it is getting polish the best I can so it will be more organised when it comes time to rank it)

Thanks for the mod

Hey from #modreqs!
Bunkachou
General

Starz15 wrote:

Hey from #modreqs!
Bunkachou

1. 00:58:716 (1) - You should change the structure for the rest of the stream here to emphasize the difference in hit sounds sigh... changed
2. 00:59:294 (9) - Not to be too critical but this slider looks like a catmull slider a what? but anyways I did change even though I have no idea what that is lol
3. 01:01:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try rounding out this stream so it looks neat adjusted
4. 01:15:592 (2,3,4,5,6) - These sliders all end on strong sounds which sounds really weird and doesn't reflect the music properly. If you just move them back by 1/4 and just add one more repeat to 01:16:746 (6) - then it would sound proper not sure what you mean exactly - all the strong sounds is on the blue tick which is why it is like it is - I am reworking this pattern when I thinking of something that will work though since it has many far too many times
5. 01:26:409 (1) - Since this slider begins on such a strong sound, I would recommend moving it a little further away than 01:26:265 (6) - so there is spacing emphasismoved
6. 01:49:486 (1) - 2 things about this slider: 1) I don't really understand the sudden high SV change 2) it doesn't cover the full length of the vocals or the violin so I don't really know what it's representing fix - the High SV was when the BPM change so that pretty much can't be help but for me to lower the is from .6x to .5x
7. 01:53:667 (1) - For the sake of consistency, it would be better if you Ctrl + G this slider so it fits with the other 2 slider-circle patterns previously played fix it - was meant to be like that in the get go my bad :c
8. 01:54:213 (1) - This single object new combo is not really necessary, just press Q not changing this
9. 01:54:213 (1,1,2) - This pattern breaks the vertical jump pattern you were using. If you just rotate 01:54:395 (1,2) 90° to the right, it will keep the pattern structure just in time to change for the chorus change this
10. 01:55:315 (1) - Could you possibly make this more curved so it looks like a direct lead in from the ultra-curved stream at 01:54:940 (1,2,3,4) change
11. 02:14:496 (2,3) - Try moving this to the head of 02:13:860 (1) - to avoid the overlap change
12. 02:17:769 (1,2) - Try to center this between 02:17:133 (1) and 02:17:496 (2) change
13. 02:22:769 (4,1,2) - Uncomfortable flow as well as an ugly slider at 02:22:951 (1) - compared to your nice curved sliders. There is really not much I can say about it to help make it better since it is very uncomfortable and the aesthetics don't make up for it adjusted this so the slider won't be ugly anymore (I didn't think it was ugly... ;_;) and it should flow better at least
14. 02:26:587 (1,2) - In the past for the same progression of notes, you have used linear flow between sliders, except for these where there is a semi 90° angle jump
15. 02:26:587 (1,1) - Make sure you remove the ugly overlap between these two fix
16. 02:27:315 (1) - For spacing emphasis and comfortable flow, I would suggest you Ctrl+ G change
17. 02:28:587 (4,1) - Since 02:28:769 (1) starts a new measure and is a stronger note, you should use spacing emphasis to lead into it change
18. 02:29:133 (3) - Move this slider head onto the slider end of 02:28:042 (1) to remove the overlap change
19. 02:37:133 (1,2,3,1) - This flow pattern is not the most comfortable as 02:37:315 (3) leads away from 02:37:496 (1) and doesn't create much spacing emphasis adjusted
20. 02:38:951 (1) - Ctrl + G so the flow is comfortable and rotates into the next object change
21. 02:41:042 (1,2) - I understand you want to be edgy and have this slider lead away from the ultra-death space stream at 02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6), but the flow is really cancerous and can lead to numerous slider breaks or chokes that can become super annoying. I would suggest just Ctrl + G and Ctrl + H so it has semi-comfortable flow That would ruin my whole pattern that I thought was perfect - Please don't be mad - if this ever have a chance to be rank I probably be force to rework it so I keeping it just in case if I don't...
22. 02:42:951 (3,1) - Are there supposed to be hit sounds here, because without them it sounds kind of anticlimactic opps fixed
23. 02:43:315 (3) - You may want to change the structure of the stream here to emphasize the arrival of the vocals just gonna keep it simple
24. 02:51:315 (1) - Ctrl +G for better spacing emphasis and flow change
25. 03:04:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Stream shape is the best
26. 03:24:769 (1) - From here to 03:25:678 (2) , it looks like the 1/4 slider s were spammed in one little section. sure they reflect the music, but the way you've structured it just looks messy It was worst before >_> - I know it look messy... I'll make it look less messy when I come up with a different idea
27. 03:28:405 (1) - Goes against the circular shape of the stream fix i think
28. 03:48:310 (1,1,1) - This is just a suggestion but it could look more satisfying if you have these circles lead into the exact center of the playfield for the spinnerchange lol
29. 04:39:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - The past two circle streams were perfectly shaped, why not this one? fix I think
30. 04:52:602 (5,1) - You've never used this type of movement before and nothing really calls for it here This was going to be curve sliders but it didn't work out at the time - I may do this again when I get the chance to fix it since the reason it was like that was when the map was made - it had more patterns like that but as time go by - they were all removed and change - but anyways I will change just not now
31. 05:04:784 (5) - Add NC
32. 05:05:147 (9) - ^ I rather have the stream without a new combo
33. 05:40:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Stream shape is ehh fixed

General

Overall Topics

1. For the sections of the song where the streams have very small spacing, I would suggest changing the distance spacing every so often according to the music as the music does change during these parts so it's not consistently going at the same intensity the entire time.
2. In the main chorus parts with the super high SV and spacing, I am going to suggest you make sure you map very carefully as I saw some parts that looked messy like from 02:28:769 (1) to 02:23:769 (5) for example. Those parts look very unorganized and low effort so I would suggest you look at your sliders and make sure that they are placed and structured in the best way possible.

Oh gosh it's one of these types of maps. I'm just going to let you know that this kind of mapping is very easy to mess up on due to it's complexity in trying to not make the playing field seem too cluttered as well as being playable while accurately representing the music. Since I'm not a professional mapper, I don't think I'm qualified enough to make professional opinions about it, you're better off asking someone higher up to take a look. Given that, it also means that everything I have suggested is nothing more than that; a suggestion. Since it is entirely possible i messed up or something is perfectly fine and I'm just being an idiot so I am just going to ask you to take what you see with a grain of salt.

It is a cool map though and I hope you continue to try to push it for ranked and I'm so sorry if I messed up on something

Anyway, good luck on ranking this!

P.S. If you are confused when I say "change structure of the stream to emphasize changes in sounds" then here is a section from a pishifat video where he explains it.
^If you already know what I'm talking about then don't bother clicking the link

Thank you for the mod

- I am still going for rank but it going through a much slower pace until I can figured out the main issues I have with this map before going out of the way to change for the sake of changing it

from #modreqs

00:53:236 - Why is there a space here?
01:56:587 (5) - Move sliderend up to blue tick
02:03:496 (2) - This patter would look better if you moved the slider to the left a bit
02:14:951 (1,2,3) - 90 degree streams just don't look that great
02:32:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - They actually work pretty well here though...Hmmm. I think if you're going to use, them, do it in sets of two like you did here. They work much better that way.
02:39:678 (1,2,3) - Make the gap between 2 & 3 the same as the spacing between 1 & 2, or the other way around.
02:40:042 (1,2,3) - ^
02:44:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is the stream like this?
03:12:405 (1) - Really minor thing, but this slider could be cleaned up just a bit
03:26:042 (1,2,3) - Same issues with spacing inconsistency as before
03:26:405 (1,2,3) - ^
03:50:618 (1,2) - Try to emphasize these two notes, as they are much more prominent
03:51:772 (1,2) - ^
03:52:926 (1,2) - ^
03:54:369 - Why is there a gap here?
03:58:696 (1,2) - Same issues with emphasis as before
04:02:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This could be curved a bit better
04:03:310 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^
04:05:690 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - Not as much of an issue as the previous two, but still
04:07:494 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^
04:39:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
04:47:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
05:39:511 (2,3) - This looks really weird. Maybe change the location of 3?
05:40:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Same issue with streams as before


That's all I found. Might be a bit nitpicky :/

Good luck!

(FYI, Approval isn't a thing anymore, and you've got a few spelling errors in the description )

sYreNn wrote:

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00:53:236 - Why is there a space here? to give emphasis on the double stack and I can't do that if those were map
01:56:587 (5) - Move sliderend up to blue tick opps - fix
02:03:496 (2) - This patter would look better if you moved the slider to the left a bit ok..
02:14:951 (1,2,3) - 90 degree streams just don't look that great adjusted but I don't really see much of a problem though..
02:32:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - They actually work pretty well here though...Hmmm. I think if you're going to use, them, do it in sets of two like you did here. They work much better that way. You have a decent point actually since I do favour them like this more than the other way but that will cause me to relocate a lot of things which I am not up for just yet - I may change this just not now
02:39:678 (1,2,3) - Make the gap between 2 & 3 the same as the spacing between 1 & 2, or the other way around.
02:40:042 (1,2,3) - ^ fix them
02:44:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is the stream like this? because the vocals get strong on (5) so that is why
03:12:405 (1) - Really minor thing, but this slider could be cleaned up just a bit change
03:26:042 (1,2,3) - Same issues with spacing inconsistency as before
03:26:405 (1,2,3) - ^ fix them
03:50:618 (1,2) - Try to emphasize these two notes, as they are much more prominent
03:51:772 (1,2) - ^
03:52:926 (1,2) - ^ I rather have it like it is too be honest
03:54:369 - Why is there a gap here? Same reason as I gave before
03:58:696 (1,2) - Same issues with emphasis as before
04:02:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This could be curved a bit better
04:03:310 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^
04:05:690 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - Not as much of an issue as the previous two, but still
04:07:494 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^
04:39:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
04:47:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ adjusted all streams hee
05:39:511 (2,3) - This looks really weird. Maybe change the location of 3? Wow I just realize the (3) wasn't reverse - fix it so it not as weird
05:40:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Same issue with streams as before fix


That's all I found. Might be a bit nitpicky :/
Good luck!

(FYI, Approval isn't a thing anymore, and you've got a few spelling errors in the description )

I called my marathons approval by habit since it was a thing when I was playing this game - Not that ain't changing... I'll do it later.

Thanks for the mod

hi M4M

[General]

1. The source should be "東方文花帖　～ Shoot the Bullet." ? These original songs are from this game.
   from zun's blog : http://kourindou.exblog.jp/12243476/

[Bunkachou]

1. 00:47:178 (1) - It's fine for follow music by one slider. Well, It would be better rhythm for playing like this
   
   SPOILER

   
2. 00:47:755 (2) - How about using x2.00 spacing like this part 00:31:601 (2) - ?
3. 00:51:505 (7) - add a new combo to here ? since you added it around here 00:52:948 (1,2,1,2,1) -
4. 00:56:121 (5) - ^ same
5. 01:11:986 (1) - move this note up for straight on here 01:11:553 (1,2,3) -
6. 01:15:448 (3) - I feel it's better to add a new combo for reading 1/2 rhythm from here.
7. 01:20:496 - add a note for follow the vocal to here ? i feel kinda empty at here.
8. 01:29:726 - ^ same
9. 02:38:951 (1) - Please try to use ctrl + g for flow ? It would be more natural for playing.
10. 03:59:561 (1) - The new combo is not necessary, it seems it doesn't work.

That's all~ Good luck!

alacat wrote:

hi M4M

[General]

1. The source should be "東方文花帖　～ Shoot the Bullet." ? These original songs are from this game. Changed
   from zun's blog : http://kourindou.exblog.jp/12243476/

[Bunkachou]

1. 00:47:178 (1) - It's fine for follow music by one slider. Well, It would be better rhythm for playing like this consider this is the type of rhythm I mainly used in the map - I change to what you suggest
   
   SPOILER

   
2. 00:47:755 (2) - How about using x2.00 spacing like this part 00:31:601 (2) - ? the beginning was the only time I ever done that and while I didn't change this - I change how the beginning work to be consistent instead
3. 00:51:505 (7) - add a new combo to here ? since you added it around here 00:52:948 (1,2,1,2,1) -
4. 00:56:121 (5) - ^ same added both since it's a minor thing and don't hurt
5. 01:11:986 (1) - move this note up for straight on here 01:11:553 (1,2,3) - Damn it I still can get it straight for some reason - it should be now
6. 01:15:448 (3) - I feel it's better to add a new combo for reading 1/2 rhythm from here. error - was suppose to be in the go so change
7. 01:20:496 - add a note for follow the vocal to here ? i feel kinda empty at here.
8. 01:29:726 - ^ same added both
9. 02:38:951 (1) - Please try to use ctrl + g for flow ? It would be more natural for playing. change and adjusted a bit
10. 03:59:561 (1) - The new combo is not necessary, it seems it doesn't work. yea it isn't working as intended - it was suppose to be for the strong beat right there but because I didn't change the spacing it does seem pointless so change

That's all~ Good luck!

thanks for the mod

Hello Hello~

Renquiem wrote:

Hello Hello~

Bunkachou

00:33:332 (1) - The object doesn't quite flow into the following pattern due to where the slider end is facing. Try rotating it 5 degrees and see if you like that or not?
00:40:255 (1) - Same thing here. Honestly you could just adjust it's placement here, or rotate roughly -10 degrees? adjusted both
01:11:986 (4) - Nudge up 5 ticks to be parallel? It's pretty close but just slighhhhhhtly off. Ugh... I will never get it right D:
01:21:216 (6) - Same rotate 5 degrees thing adjusted
01:54:395 (2,3) - I found this pattern to play much nicer if you ctrl+G the slider and ctrl+J the circle (With a little tweaking to get it below the slider as well). Before it was really easy to slider break on this due to the wide angle. This keeps the intensity without risking a derpy slider break imo while this may be a good idea - this will may intentional ruin the distance I have for the stream 01:54:940 (1,2,3,4) - which will cause me to rearrange something for it to work

02:12:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not quite a perfect half circle. If you were to flip this half circle on it's side you'll see that object 4 and 5 are slightly jutting up? fix
02:23:860 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same issue Object 1 is too close. Object 4 and 5 have larger spacing. attempted to fix
02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Whoa there this is a bit funky. Honestly not quite sure how to fix this but it looks rather crooked ya know while I was adjusted this stream - I realize that it was going the wrong direction...(tbh I don't see how this is any worse than 02:17:133 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
since both are quite similar to each other but mods seem to only point at this 1)
02:46:224 (1) - The vocals pause on the white tick rather than the blue tick. Might want to change that slider into a hit circle (It also feels alot more satisfying ) change
02:52:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe using the shape generator would clean this up? (ctrl+shift+D) I also suggest stacking 1 on top of 7.
03:04:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The violin isn't in 1/12. Normal 1/8 streams will do just fine here. this is neither 1/12 or 1/8 - the stream is 1/6 but the violin is a bit weird - using 1/8 will make the stream harder for no reason
03:27:678 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Ya... Use the shape generator tool here to clean this up. fix the streams
04:05:041 (9) - Unmuted hitsound? there isn't nothing muted here
04:18:023 (1) - Honestly, stacking this under Object 7 from the prior combo felt a lot nicer. It's easier to read so you don't just to early. eh I kind of prefer not to do that since I rather give it the spacing emphasis but I may move it so nobody will click it early it is too many issues like it is
04:39:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Check that stream shape! fix
04:47:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Try stacking object 1 on 8 and 2 on 1NC. Then form an octagon?
05:16:420 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Accelerating streams are hard to make so... I don't know how I would explain to fix this one unfortunately :/
05:22:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stack 1 on 8 and make an Octagon I much rather not stack and make it a octagon - I rather have much streams look more like a swirl
05:28:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ same thing
05:40:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Ya... This one needs a check up so. When creating these circle streams, try and stack newer objects on older ones.
05:46:602 (1) - That's quite a jump for a 1/8 rhythm owo. Maybe a bit too much? this is 165 bpm 1/4 not 1/8 - the 1/8 is for the 104 streams 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - So consider how jumpy this map is too begin with and how much easier this stream is compare to the constant 165 1/4 space streams - this isn't hard and shouldn't be for a jump to finish the song

<3 This map ^^

thanks for the mod (I'm too tired to go over my bad grammar mistakes lol)

Yo o/ NM from Q

Pretty fun map!
Good Luck~

[-Crissaegrim-] wrote:

Yo o/ NM from Q

Bunkachou

00:41:986 (6,1) - these two represent almost the same sound, i think 6 could have the same shape as 1, looks a bit better too imo
they were both straight sliders at first but only change 1 - I change it
00:43:717 (4) - this shape is pretty similar to last one, being a kick, you represent the same kick with a different shape through this section
I change them so they all are they all these 00:43:717 (4) - but kept the circle like this 00:32:178 (4,5) - only because I am following the vocals so 2 circle would be more fitting than slider
00:56:121 (1) - this is so odd to aim at imo, following a pretty intense up and down pattern before, try to move it down so its more comfortable to hit
move it down a bit
00:58:428 (5) - i would cut this here, i think it's just too intense without a build up before ah not quite get what you mean here so I ain't changing
i personally dislike this section, i think you could put more sliders or make every stream close to others, but it's very subjective
I understand what you mean - this section was intended to be hard but not too hard and I can make the streams closer if it get bring up at least 1 more time
01:06:217 (9,1) - i would rotate this a bit so it follows the last slider visual flow better done

01:10:255 (1) - why not 2 circles like before? tail sound is pretty intense, it deserves a clickable imo ya ur right - tbh I don't know why I didn't do it in the get go

01:16:890 (1,2,1) - flow here is so uncomfortable at least for me, you could try to improve it change it up a bit

01:35:496 - maybe you deleted this because a mod, but i think you should map this sound I didn't delete because of a mod but rather I didn't hear anything here until u brought it up - but still I think it better to not map it especially going into the 1/6 section

01:35:640 (1,2,3,4) - (1) is a bit 'out' of the stream, move it down a bit so it looks better change

01:37:851 - i really think you should put a circle here, would be more fun to play and add more consistency to the section(same for other empty places)Idk personally - I understand but it's just better to leave it like it is since I already had to redo this section a couple times because of other mods and I rather not go through it again until I certain it will work fine
01:42:563 (1,2,3,4) - same as above change

02:06:405 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - you could make it more circular to the end done

02:48:769 (4,5) - flow here is pretty different than ussual and a bit uncomfortable, try to make the same as 02:49:496 (3,4,1) - here done
02:55:860 (3,4,1) - same here with flow i'll have to think about this - I am considering it

03:04:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this is 1/4, i don't see a reason to make it 1/6, also you entered into a calm section so i think there's no reason to make it like this
F-Fine...
03:07:315 (3,4) - blanket could be better change

03:49:465 - sound is pretty strong, i think it deserve a clickable sure - luckily the spinner is still give 2000 with auto so it's k

04:11:387 (1) - same as i mentioned in the beginning change

04:18:167 (2,1) - same flow thing eh - give me time to think bout this 1 - Although I agree that it looks awkward and probably gonna change some kind of way

04:28:563 - you skip a little sound
04:33:178 - ^ consider the only time I used blue tick was for the vocals and more noticable sounds - I much rather not (plus it kind of hard to hear without paying attention to it)

04:41:874 (9) - i think you should NC to represent the spacing increase add 4 NCs here since the spacing is increase after every 4 circle if you notice carefully -

05:04:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i think you should start to increase distance on 9, before that intensity appears to be the same as before so it have the same distance imo(NC on 9) it start increase as soon as the snare start which is 5 which why the distance doesn't exactly increase at 9 but I did move everything above 9 a bit and added the NC

05:28:056 (1,1) - distance should be higher, i hit it early when i played it, can be confused with a 1/4 so easily Ugh even after increase the distance it can't be help that all my streams is away from the slider so I might get rid of the 1/2 & turn into 2 1/4s but I'll wait for other to say something bout it with this change

Pretty fun map!
Good Luck~

thanks for the mod

from modreqs

00:35:063 (1,2) - do a custom stack or try this rhythm instead https://puu.sh/xuyim/63fc291bd2.png because rn 00:35:207 - this drum doesnt have much emphasis like the other drums in this section do
00:39:678 (1,2) - same as ^, also please check all the same moments in this part
00:48:332 (5) - since you tried to follow vocals, rhythm like https://puu.sh/xuyql/9713a11ac8.png this would work much better
00:52:948 (1,2) - shouldnt have so much spacing, these sounds are not as strong as 00:51:505 (1) -
00:55:255 (1,2) - kinda same, also why 00:55:111 (6,1) - this is larger than 00:55:976 (4,1) - ?
00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - should be different from the other streams, since this is the intro and sounds are noticeably different
01:05:062 (15,1) - transition here isnt neat as in the other places
01:16:890 (1,2) - ctrl+g maybe? so 01:17:178 (1) - this has enough spacing
01:35:640 (1) - i think this part should have bigger spacing since all notes here are 1/3 (1/6 to be correct), but spacing is mostly the same as 00:58:716 (1) - here, where notes are 1/4(1/8).. doesnt really make much sense
also maybe make spacing bigger linear? music becomes more intense, so you increase spacing. for expml, here 01:40:255 (1) - then here 01:42:563 (1) -
and then 01:44:871 (1) - here with a huge difference
01:51:667 - fix your break
02:03:133 (4) - try x=126 y=37? rn visual spacing between 02:03:133 (4,1) - isnt really nice
04:18:023 (1,2) - yeah, you can ctrl+g these too.

good luck!

Komore wrote:

from modreqs

00:35:063 (1,2) - do a custom stack or try this rhythm instead https://puu.sh/xuyim/63fc291bd2.png because rn 00:35:207 - this drum doesnt have much emphasis like the other drums in this section do I decided to completely unstack them
00:39:678 (1,2) - same as ^, also please check all the same moments in this part ^
00:48:332 (5) - since you tried to follow vocals, rhythm like https://puu.sh/xuyql/9713a11ac8.png this would work much better keeping it the same for now
00:52:948 (1,2) - shouldnt have so much spacing, these sounds are not as strong as 00:51:505 (1) -
00:55:255 (1,2) - kinda same, also why 00:55:111 (6,1) - this is larger than 00:55:976 (4,1) - ? adjusted them all so the other 1 be more obvious
00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - should be different from the other streams, since this is the intro and sounds are noticeably different At this point I just gonna keep it like it is seeing how no one is going to ever be satisfied with this - plus If I did it my way it just make things too hard and I already nerf a lot of things in this map
01:05:062 (15,1) - transition here isnt neat as in the other places adjusted
01:16:890 (1,2) - ctrl+g maybe? so 01:17:178 (1) - this has enough spacing change
01:35:640 (1) - i think this part should have bigger spacing since all notes here are 1/3 (1/6 to be correct), but spacing is mostly the same as 00:58:716 (1) - here, where notes are 1/4(1/8).. doesnt really make much sense
also maybe make spacing bigger linear? music becomes more intense, so you increase spacing. for expml, here 01:40:255 (1) - then here 01:42:563 (1) -
and then 01:44:871 (1) - here with a huge difference I understand your point - I can change this part a bit on the spacing but tbh the only reason why 1/4 is the almost exact same spacing as 1/3 is because the streams in the 1/4 is stronger than the 1/3 part in my opinion - Not that I ain't changing anything since it ain't no problem with me
01:51:667 - fix your break adjusted
02:03:133 (4) - try x=126 y=37? rn visual spacing between 02:03:133 (4,1) - isnt really nice sure
04:18:023 (1,2) - yeah, you can ctrl+g these too. done

good luck!

thanks for the mod

Yo, from my queue

1. 00:53:236 - These kind of gaps feel weird to be left out since you mapped adjacent ones with about the same intensity like 00:51:794 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . A slider would be good.
   Similar gaps that should be filled:
   01:44:775 - 01:47:082 - 01:49:390 - (for these you can add repeats to the previous sliders)
   03:54:369 -
2. 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I would've expected this to be a build-up to 00:58:717 - this section, so a stream feels overdone at this point. 1/4 repeatsliders would be an idea.
3. 01:35:640 (1,2,3,4) - These 1/6 streams look very similar to the previous 1/4 streams, so make them more distinguishable (slightly higher DS like 1.3x). This goes for the whole section
4. 02:41:678 (5,6,1,2) - Spaced stream and then a streamjump into a condensed stream? That's not the best transition to do here, better thing would be to 02:41:678 (5,6) - combine this into a 1/4 slider
5. 02:45:496 (1,1,2,3,1) - Make 02:45:678 (1,2) - this a slider and space all of them out a bit more, then you have a good buildup
6. 04:36:784 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 04:38:238 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 04:39:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Could successively increase spacing in those streams, fits better to the song
7. 04:41:965 (2) - Redundant circle since that beat isn't prominent in the music, so putting an object here is kinda meh. Same for:
   02:58:678 (2) - 05:22:693 (2) - 05:28:511 (2) - 05:34:329 (2) - 05:40:147 (2) - etc.
   Just noticed you do that a lot, so try to avoid it since it blurs out the distinctive rhythms of the song if you just stream all over it.
8. 05:04:329 (7,1,2) - That streamjump is pretty huge, try to minimize it.
9. 05:46:511 (8,1) - Can't recommend doing that because It's a huge forced streamjump. At least lower down the spacing on this one.
10. The faster parts of the map are well-structured while the slower parts could be more polished. I believe the patterns could be more refined overall, but solid work for a newer mapper.

Good luck on this

Pho wrote:

Yo, from my queue

1. 00:53:236 - These kind of gaps feel weird to be left out since you mapped adjacent ones with about the same intensity like 00:51:794 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . A slider would be good.
   Similar gaps that should be filled:
   01:44:775 - 01:47:082 - 01:49:390 - (for these you can add repeats to the previous sliders)
   03:54:369 - Since this has been brought up enough - I will change them
2. 00:57:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I would've expected this to be a build-up to 00:58:717 - this section, so a stream feels overdone at this point. 1/4 repeatsliders would be an idea. change
3. 01:35:640 (1,2,3,4) - These 1/6 streams look very similar to the previous 1/4 streams, so make them more distinguishable (slightly higher DS like 1.3x). This goes for the whole section ah yea forgot to do this - changing now
4. 02:41:678 (5,6,1,2) - Spaced stream and then a streamjump into a condensed stream? That's not the best transition to do here, better thing would be to 02:41:678 (5,6) - combine this into a 1/4 slider change
5. 02:45:496 (1,1,2,3,1) - Make 02:45:678 (1,2) - this a slider and space all of them out a bit more, then you have a good buildup k
6. 04:36:784 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 04:38:238 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 04:39:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Could successively increase spacing in those streams, fits better to the song
7. 04:41:965 (2) - Redundant circle since that beat isn't prominent in the music, so putting an object here is kinda meh. Same for:
   02:58:678 (2) - 05:22:693 (2) - 05:28:511 (2) - 05:34:329 (2) - 05:40:147 (2) - etc. Idk about how to fix the first one ya mention without changing the entire stream (which I will consider if I find a way to make it work) - but I can change the other ones by add a slider and removing the first 2 circles so (2) be at the slider end and wouldn't be unnecessarily look like a strong beat like the rest of the stream - I didn't realize how 2 was like that or else I would had been change it/never done it like that
   Just noticed you do that a lot, so try to avoid it since it blurs out the distinctive rhythms of the song if you just stream all over it.
8. 05:04:329 (7,1,2) - That streamjump is pretty huge, try to minimize it. done
9. 05:46:511 (8,1) - Can't recommend doing that because It's a huge forced streamjump. At least lower down the spacing on this one. I lower the spacing a lot
10. The faster parts of the map are well-structured while the slower parts could be more polished. I believe the patterns could be more refined overall, but solid work for a newer mapper.

Good luck on this

Thank you for the mod

I am not updating yet since I am applying changes from post and want to make sure everything is just right(will edit this post when I am actually done) - I will also polish the slow part like ya said and look over all the patterns afterwards

EDIT: Applied everything - just need to polish the changes because its a bit awkward but nothing too bad

Hello, m4m!


This map improved a lot since I first saw it. I still don't like how heavily this abuses slider leniency though, and I still think that overall flow can be improved in the fast parts. This will probably require remapping some areas that suffer from this problem because, while mods can IMPROVE it, remapping will give the pattern a completely new baseline that can more easily be improved on from the previous pattern. Keep in mind, for alt maps like this you need to concede more to what feels comfortable to play (mainly in terms of spacing consistency + angles) due to the higher speeds of the music

My two cents on what to do next, if you were considering more mods (since you have a bit already xd)
Good luck

squirrelpascals wrote:

Hello, m4m!

diff

• 00:58:716 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - can you make a more even , probably circular, curvature on this stream? its oval shaped atm. same with these too 01:01:745 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 01:03:331 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:05:639 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:07:514 (1,2,3,4,5) - this might look like a "remap kds" type of mod, but all these random curvatures don't look aesthetically coherent. use slider to stream for these

• 01:22:372 (2) - sharp corner doesn't fit in with the slight curves of 01:21:794 (1,3,4) - I wanted to emphasize the strong vocals here and having a normal curve slider won't just do - Instead of getting rid of it - I will add more of those type of slider to the strong beats -
- I am also gonna adjust the pattern as well

• 01:54:940 (1,2,3,4) - same idea as the first mod but on a smaller scale

• 01:57:496 (1) - moving down and to the right would give a smoother circular flow through 01:57:042 (2,3,4,1,2) -, thus making it more comfortable

• 02:04:042 (1,2,3) - the change in spacing between these two is also uncomfortable to play adjusted

• 02:13:133 (3,4) - making sliders like this that go together the same slider curve will make this aesthetic more identifiable Will change these others similar

• 02:14:951 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - similar to above, except with triple + sliders. these curves might work somewhere else in the map but doesn't feel strucutred next to these slightly curved patterns 02:14:587 (3,4) - it goes with the circle slider after it but maybe you can transition better into doing this. Same thing here 02:32:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The 1st one I rearrange the pattern to make feel more part of the previous pattern
The 2nd one all I done was just change the direction of the slider since too me it didn't had the same problem as the previous one you talk about
• 02:17:133 (1,2) - would look a lot neater if the second slider was just a ctrl+h and slight rotation of the first one. also, adjust the positions so the symmetry is more identifiable. (im assuming you were going for symmetry because of the curve directions and placements) Actually I wasn't going for symmetry - I wanted the Sliders to both has a slight difference - made same shape but not using the pic because I didn't like it muchexample

• 02:20:042 (1) - would suggest moving this more to the right. creates more smooth clockwise flow at 02:19:678 (3,4,5,1) - and makes it a lot easier to follow slider 5

• 02:28:042 (1,2,3,4) - feels like it goes from really low to high spacing here for no reason,
Adjusted (4) to be less spacing - Everything else is just like previous patterns during this time but arrange differently -
• 02:43:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - oval streams again xp

• 02:49:496 (3,4,1) - typically for patterns like this one would expect the object after 02:49:678 (4) - to be to the right of the slider, because of slidertail direction + the way 4 is placed after 3. because of the way you placed it behind the slider the player has to kinda loop their cursor to follow the slider semi-correctly and hit the next note. this is MOSTLY because of your choice to use fast sv, and one of the minor things that interferes with the map's flow

• 02:53:860 (3,4,1) - another big difference in spacing thats uncomfortable to play, mainly on the y axis I will attempt to change but I not quite sure about this...

• 03:08:769 (1,1) - space these? objects barely touching like this are annoying I didn't see no harm tbh but it wasn't intentional either so change

• 03:18:951 (1,2) - since you use a LOT of 1/2 sliders, using a stream or something else here to follow the guitar would give a nice change in rhythm. Also in this part: if youre going to use sliders then make curvatures similar for aesthetic reasons, as mentioned earlier in this mod 03:18:951 (1,3) -
I will consider but by hearing it- the sliders doesn't necessarily ignores the guitar and if it had I would had made it where it didn't
• 03:24:042 (1) - ctrl+g works better for this, more flow to and from the objects surrounding it, and less angling and minor adjustment to hit it correctly
Eh I have done that already to this slider for the same exact reason so I am keeping it the sameI didn't... but I will wait to change it
• 04:06:772 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 04:07:494 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 04:08:719 (2,3,4,5) - same, use more even curvature for these streams

• 04:42:602 (1,2,3) - spacing change is not comfortable will change

what im saying is getting really repetitive, i feel like i've drawn it out enough times for you to apply this to the rest of these fast sections and stream sections. (as much work as it is) I think its best that you even go over the map again and look for similar issues anyways, to apply this mod all around instead of in these specific places

This map improved a lot since I first saw it. I still don't like how heavily this abuses slider leniency though, and I still think that overall flow can be improved in the fast parts. This will probably require remapping some areas that suffer from this problem because, while mods can IMPROVE it, remapping will give the pattern a completely new baseline that can more easily be improved on from the previous pattern. Keep in mind, for alt maps like this you need to concede more to what feels comfortable to play (mainly in terms of spacing consistency + angles) due to the higher speeds of the music

My two cents on what to do next, if you were considering more mods (since you have a bit already xd)
Good luck

The problems ya talk about like this 02:49:496 (3,4,1) - It was mine intentions to be like that - I have a justify reason for it but I know that I can't sit back explain it since I am bad for that so I would like to hope this wouldn't mean I have to just get rid of it (I will find a way to explain it when I get the rights words to do that)
- I am not going to change those patterns just yet
- I am going to implement it in the map better and more so the player will get used to it instead since it not working as intended
- Going to go over mainly kiai sections and look over other section where I see how I can make it work
- I will get rid of if it is a problem if I can't solve it by doing what I just said since I ain't that hardheaded to change anything


- Besides above - I am fixing unintentional flow mistakes and adjust them/change later


I didn't reply to stream mod because that will just be me agreeing with you - I am going to make them more circular with slider thing - The streams is not going to be change yet as I wanted to make sure that if I do change them - I won't have to do any sorts of arranging during mods and will do it as one of the last things to be change when it comes time to actually get it rank

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Thanks for the help - I may have look over something but I will just go back to reread

Not all changes has been applied but I am updating now and update again when I am fully awake

(I hope I didn't said anything that didn't make sense/that just stupid when I get up later to reread this post..)

double post because I did all that while I was half sleep - All I said above I thought about how much work I am putting myself up for so here how it is:

-I got rid of majority of the flow problem like this 02:49:496 (3,4,1) - by rearranging the patterns - I didn't feel like I needed to remap all of them since all it took was some flipping and rotation but I did with some of them

- Fixing the flow of this map in general (at least trying - I will just get a couple mods to help out on this)

- tbh What I did with Slider to stream didn't made them circular and still more oval since I still like them like they already are and it was a waste of time since I concluded that I just don't like them like that and I kept making it the same way even while converting it - so yea no change but I will clean them up a bit so they at least look better

- I'm map more toward the drum in this song and while I do try to follow the guitar but 03:18:951 (1,2) changing this too a stream doesn't seem quite fitting to me and when I hear it sound overmap and it just doesn't work since this will be more confusing to the players since all the streams in the map is following the drum and just to suddenly make a stream for the guitar is just not gonna do - the 1/4 sliders isn't downright ignoring it and I am not changing them
(I am just explaining more of what I said)

- I am editing this post when I am done cleaning up the map

EDIT: I updated
The kiai is the main problem with flow so I fixed it
I change it so while it seems a bit awkward now - its has a lot less of what u said about and flow better in general (it will be better later)
- I will adjusted other place like the guitar section at the end of this map and other than that - the major problems is mostly gone out of the picture as far as I see
I didn't polish the diff or fix everything yet like I wanted since that will take too long so I will just try to get mods again and fix them gradually each update I do

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dont mind me, ill just shoot another star uwu

Hi, from my modding queue.
awh, it's RD-Sounds here !


Good luck ~

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue.
awh, it's RD-Sounds here !

Bunkachou

1. 01:15:448 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this plays rather "close" and it would be better if you make them more voluminous to make this pattern more comfortable to play, so you move 01:15:880 (3) - and 01:16:169 (4,5,6,7) - on the right, you have enough space to do it. While I did adjust it - I the pattern itself seem to be fine as far being comfortable - I made it little less close but nothing more
2. 01:59:678 (1,2,3,4,5) - this looks good for aesthetics but, in terms of playability it isn't really nice imo, because you made them closer compared to what i can see before and after for no reason maybe (or maybe to show that you follow the quiet guitar in the background when there's no vocals), and it isn't really nice to play. There should be more distance between these sliders.If you make them more distant, don't forget to do it here too 02:05:496 (1,2,3,4,5) -
   It was for the quiet part due to the vocals - however if interfering with playability - I did made it had more space (2nd too)
3. 02:09:860 (1,2) - the transition between these objects is really broken during this fast section. It will be technically very difficult to complete this slider 02:09:860 (1) - because 02:10:133 (2) - starts at its middle, concerning its placement. 02:10:133 (2) - must be moved downward to improve the playability fo this pattern. Couldn't lower it too much (might have to rearrange some things) but it should be a bit better
4. 02:23:496 (4,5) - there's no reason to increase the distance between them, compared to 02:23:133 (2,3) - , because they follow the same sound, and there's nothing more audible on 02:23:678 - to allow you to use a higher distance. it wasn't intentional - I was copy - paste and didn't adjusted the spacing yet - fixed it
5. 02:28:042 (1,2) - the same idea as i suggested here 01:15:448 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . You can make them play better if you don't make them close like this. You have enough space to move 02:28:042 (1) - a little on the right to make this pattern more voluminous and more comfortable to play. adjusted
6. 03:04:315 - make this tick played because you followed the same sound with your 5objects stream here 03:04:769 (1,2,3,4) - . Same goes for 05:10:874 (3) - change the 1st one but the 2nd is the same since it would make me have to do some rearranging which I rather not do atm
7. 03:18:042 (4) - it should be circles instead here, because of guitar which is intense and just a slider here doesn't show the real impact of it, and you emphasized the guitar here 03:21:133 (1,1) - this require me to change the other pattern after this - Not that I won't consider it - I will do something about when I come up with an idea
   
   The overall spacing in all 1/4 mapping parts looks weird and not really tidy, it would be better to make things consistent and more structured.

Good luck ~

the spacing is inconsistent because it recently went through 5- 10 hours (not sure) polishing slidershape and changing up the flow on the whole map without thinking of spacing too much since I didn't realize it was an issue
- Anyways I wen't through the whole map and did a hotfix on all spacing so it should be consistent (sorta)
- Gonna remap this 02:09:860 (1,2) - since it may still be a problem Nvm - just had to move it a bit more instead

Thanks for Mod

Also thank you Joe Castle for the stars <3

Hello :3

Bunkachou

That's all, cool map and good luck

Waku wrote:

Hello :3

Bunkachou

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  00:39:101 (3) - This sliderend isn't stacked on 00:37:948 (1) - sliderend correctly fixed
  I don't understand the ds of 00:41:986 (6,1) - , you had around double for all the other ones, so why change it here?
  00:49:486 (1,2) - These have a distinct sound that I feel should be emphasized like you did at 00:52:948 (1,2) - or 00:54:101 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - . I don't see a reason to not emphasize those sounds there. Also 03:50:618 (1,2) -
  In my opinion, sliders like 01:22:372 (2) - don't really belong in that section, due to it being much more calmer than the other parts. Maybe just a regular curved or straight slider would work better, which brings me to this: it due to the strong vocals here and beat (I know there is other places this can be applied to which is why I will change them to sharp sliders as well - just not now)
  I feel you kind of place slider shapes randomly through out the map, and not only that. You also seem to use the exact same 3 shapes through out the map. I understand your intention might be for the fast sliders to be a highlight, but still, using only those sliders can get somewhat boring especially when certain spots feel like you should. This is just an opinion though, so don't feel forced at all to change this. I felt I would just use any other than 3 completely random (it wasn't much shapes I can with 1/4 sliders without looking kind of funky to me also) - I am more aware that my usage of sliders is inconsistent in areas which is why it is random so I will slowly change them each mod I get to be consistent - I may use more wavy sliders for 1/2 sliders and sharp slider too but that should be about it
  01:54:940 (1,2,3,4,1) - This stream looks really ugly, I won't even lie lol, I'm sure you can make it more pleasing adjusted - forgot
  Another problem I have is the contrast between 01:55:315 - to 02:41:769 - and the kiai after. There is barely any difference between them, and this is a problem for me as spots like 02:19:678 (3,4,5) - have the same intensity as 02:48:587 (2,3,4) - . Everything in the kiai is more intense, such as the instruments and vocals, so mapping both spots the same doesn't make sense to me. You can lower the sv and ds at 01:55:304 - to 02:06:951 - , then you can lower the ds (especially for the streams and spaced 1/4 circles) at 02:06:951 - to the kiai. 02:06:951 - Is somewhat more intense as the part before, but the spaced streams still don't really suit, so just lowering the ds compared to the kiai between sliders and raising it compared to the part before would be nice. (if that sounds confusing just msg me lol i think i worded it badly) I really mostly mention this as it becomes an issue gameplay wise more than aesthetic wise.
  I will adjusted it later - will change the streams as well
  02:06:405 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this ds can work nicely at 02:18:587 -
  For streams like 03:04:769 (1,2,3,4,1) - you seem to make the slider head follow the stream's "flow", but you forget about the slider body too. This isn't much a problem in gameplay, but it is weird while looking at. So just make it so the stream also follows the slider body! adjusted
  Not really a problem, but do you have a reason why you did 00:57:563 (1,2) - compared to 03:59:272 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ? If it's for variety that's fine. it was because the stream before was basically just too long expecially before a stream section - while the 2nd one wasn't and I didn't think repeating slider was just gonna do it
  04:38:238 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This stream is a really irregular oval lol, i think you can fix it easily by making 04:38:238 (1,2,3) - less straight. adjusted
  04:42:784 (2,3,4) - This seriously doesn't flow well for me. I think it would be better if you made it go from 04:42:784 (2) - to 04:43:147 (4) - and move 04:42:965 (3) - somewhere else didn't as ya said (kind of got confused) but did adjusted
  05:11:329 (1,2,3,4,1) - Remember the slider body stream thing I mentioned earlier? Here it would work aswell. adjusted

That's all, cool map and good luck

Don't feel like updating the map now... - I will continue looking at the mod tomorrow or the day after and will update then

thank you for the mod

k lol a whole week... so much for doing it tomorrow..

Anyways I did kind of what I said:
I lower this section and other like this 02:18:587 - from 1.2x to 1x and the streams has reduce spacing
same here 02:30:224 - but 1.1x this time since it is faster
Other fast sections has lower SV but most is the same
I have made it more consistent with my usages of different slider and aware it may need more some work on that before it could get rank

UnNVus wrote:

hi i mod from my q

01:18:909 (4) - Change this slider shape to be sharp cause its on the drum sound that you were making the 1/2 corner sliders on earlier change
01:19:775 (2) - I'd also make this straight for the same reason as above but you do use this shape consistenlty in this section so thats kinda up to you keeping it the same
01:58:405 (2) - Again, I'd make this into a sharp slider, it wouldnt ruin the movement and it would adhear to what you were doing earlier more change
03:05:678 (2,3) - This is fine but I'd prefer something more interesting on these sounds rather than a stack eh i'll think about it
05:43:511 (3) - I dont really think this should be spaced this similarly to the two notes before it not sure what ya mean

Honestly I couldn't see too much wrong with it. The stuff I pointed out was mostly consistency stuff and applies throughout the whole map. I think some of your sliders especially towards the fast part could be made to mimic the ones toward the beginning if only for the sake of consistency.

Really cool map, sorry if this wasn't very helpful, gl on rank!

wow haven't seen this my bad >.<

I will check it out later since I see I can fix this quickly

EDIT: K I applied what I agree above and see how I can make it more consistent now - I will do more to the map later when I have time

thank you

I don't really know if you can consider it a mod, but here comes something.

Maybe you'll want to make a different colour/set of colours for sections like this 01:35:640 - 01:49:486 - where the map goes into 1/6 streams.

02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5) - looks messy, + 02:41:678 (5) - this slider is sort of uncomfortable

02:45:133 (5,6,7,8) - why not make it curved like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9246998 ?

03:18:951 (1,2,3) - I don't think this 3 sliders represent this guitar sound. Maybe try something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9247038 ?
(Reversed slider followed by a note on a blue tick and a 1/4 slider after that)

03:25:496 (1) - this slider should be 1/2 slider not 1/4

04:36:784 (1) - doesn't this supposed to be a bit lower like this note 04:37:511 (1) - or you weren't going for a perfect circle stream ?

04:36:784 - This change in BPM is quite a surprise. Are you sure you don't want to highlight it somehow ?

05:03:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this part feels kinda of after this extreme change in spacing from before. The distance gap between slider and stream should be a bit more.

Well, that's it. Sorry for such a short mod

871 wrote:

I don't really know if you can consider it a mod, but here comes something.

Maybe you'll want to make a different colour/set of colours for sections like this 01:35:640 - 01:49:486 - where the map goes into 1/6 streams.
- Eh that seems a lot of trouble for 1 section of the song but it comes down to it - I may use just 2 NC colors instead of 1 if the streams is too confusing as it is -
02:41:315 (1,2,3,4,5) - looks messy, + 02:41:678 (5) - this slider is sort of uncomfortable adjusted it but not too much

02:45:133 (5,6,7,8) - why not make it curved like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9246998 ? adjusted it and made it more curve

03:18:951 (1,2,3) - I don't think this 3 sliders represent this guitar sound. Maybe try something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9247038 ?
(Reversed slider followed by a note on a blue tick and a 1/4 slider after that) Ahhh people keeping saying lol - I am gonna change it but not the way ya done it since it just gonna keep being brought up

03:25:496 (1) - this slider should be 1/2 slider not 1/4 not sure about this - since I mainly following 1/4 drum - that is 1/4 but I may consider changing it

04:36:784 (1) - doesn't this supposed to be a bit lower like this note 04:37:511 (1) - or you weren't going for a perfect circle stream ? adjusted

04:36:784 - This change in BPM is quite a surprise. Are you sure you don't want to highlight it somehow ? Idk - I don't want to go the extremes so I think it is better as is

05:03:693 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this part feels kinda of after this extreme change in spacing from before. The distance gap between slider and stream should be a bit more. adjusted this

Well, that's it. Sorry for such a short mod

Wow I posted the wrong map link - I guess that what I get - mean't for you to mod this map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/675527 (in the q I had the title+song right atleast XD) but It was my fault for mixing the songs up so I ain't worry about it

thank you for this mod

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00:51:361 (6,1) - probs would be better if you made 6 lead into 1 a bit better as well as making the transition from 00:51:505 (1,1) - smoother as well since ur going against slider flow
01:44:871 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - angle could be less sharp, since the first stream is at an angle and 4 -> 1 has straight line flow, having the purple stream be a sharp stream shape is kinda meh in play
01:56:224 (2) - could ctrl + j to make it flow better into the triplet
01:57:496 (1) - having 1 kinda like the picture below can help w/ the change in flow to 2
02:02:224 (3,4,5) - mm having just a straight line stream after 2 doesn't really flow well since 2's shape kinda calls for movement going toward the left but you're trying to go back right
tbh the section kinda just keeps repeating the same things, one thing I do recommend for alt maps is smaller spacing for triplets like you're doing, that way you have a lot more room to really work with and don't have to care as much about slider to triplet flows, rn a lot of your triplets are fairly linear which usually go against the flow of the 1/4 sliders you have (e.g. 02:10:405 (4,1,2,3) - and 02:13:315 (4,1,2,3) - or an extreme examples being 02:14:951 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ) which end up having pretty snappy movements which doesn't really play too well in high bpm maps when alternating
you're not really creating a whole lot of variation either during the high bpm section which is kinda boring, since it's the same cycle over and over again of 1/4 sliders and then two triplets with the same sharp spacing concepts. try mixing in some of the vocals in the bg that really stand out, since you're really just going along with the bg rhythm over and over again with the same kind of rhythm and object usages, and try mixing up when you throw in triplets and when you're having sliders for more playing interest
02:52:042 (1,2,3,4,1) - the problem with having really high svs is that it can get really hard to control in parts kinda like this, the movement here is overall pretty linear while the transition to the stream starting at 02:52:587 (4,1) - has a very sharp, snapping motion to it, try to set up slider shapes so they assist in the flow you're trying to achieve, as well as trying to structure things before a pattern so it natural flows into something like a stream that you did here
03:21:133 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - here's kind of another example where you shouldn't just be following the bg rhythms, there's pretty prominent guitar beats around here on 03:21:133 (1) - 03:21:496 (1) - 03:21:860 (3) - 03:22:224 (3) - but you're just repeating the same things over and over again, you could have done something like a 1/1 slider ->1/4 circle -> 1/1 slider but you just don't which kinda ends up leading to somewhat lackluster gameplay
03:28:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - larger spacing for the 3/4 beats and smaller spacing for the 1/2 beat for 03:28:951 (3,1) - would help readability
04:49:511 (4,5,1,2) - flow here is pretty sharp and awk tbh
04:54:965 (1,2,3,4) - going against slider flow

kinda just pointing out examples here and there so you kinda see what im talking about w/ that big block of text

overall there's kinda just a lack of variety for rhythms which just stick to the background rhythms and just ignore all other rhythms as well as flow overall needing some improvement

flow and movement for alt maps kinda just comes with time tbh, i probably mapped like 10 different alt maps before kinda finding out what works, cuz really high bpms like this have different kinda "rules" that dictate the playability of the map

Ok you mod post is basically repeating the same thing over and over again that I almost got confused so I am breaking it into parts instead

03:21:133 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - here's kind of another example where you shouldn't just be following the bg rhythms, there's pretty prominent guitar beats around here on 03:21:133 (1) - 03:21:496 (1) - 03:21:860 (3) - 03:22:224 (3) - but you're just repeating the same things over and over again, you could have done something like a 1/1 slider ->1/4 circle -> 1/1 slider but you just don't which kinda ends up leading to somewhat lackluster gameplay

I disagree on this example - this was 1 of the times I did follow the guitar so I think it could have been a better example tbh

I even put a pause 03:21:405 - to emphasis that I was following the guitar

03:21:496 (1) - the guitar does not stop until here 03:21:678 - hence why it a 1/1 slider and not circles

Did change it up slightly though since you point wasn't entirely wrong

00:51:361 (6,1) - probs would be better if you made 6 lead into 1 a bit better as well as making the transition from 00:51:505 (1,1) - smoother as well since ur going against slider flow change up
01:44:871 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - angle could be less sharp, since the first stream is at an angle and 4 -> 1 has straight line flow, having the purple stream be a sharp stream shape is kinda meh in play
01:56:224 (2) - could ctrl + j to make it flow better into the triplet
01:57:496 (1) - having 1 kinda like the picture below can help w/ the change in flow to 2
adjusted all above

03:28:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - larger spacing for the 3/4 beats and smaller spacing for the 1/2 beat for 03:28:951 (3,1) - would help readability done
04:49:511 (4,5,1,2) - flow here is pretty sharp and awk tbh that was the point here - the music was a bit different this time (if you listen close the music) and I wanted to reflect that with sharp rhythm - I adjusted it a bit though
04:54:965 (1,2,3,4) - going against slider flow

02:02:224 (3,4,5) - mm having just a straight line stream after 2 doesn't really flow well since 2's shape kinda calls for movement going toward the left but you're trying to go back right
tbh the section kinda just keeps repeating the same things, one thing I do recommend for alt maps is smaller spacing for triplets like you're doing, that way you have a lot more room to really work with and don't have to care as much about slider to triplet flows, rn a lot of your triplets are fairly linear which usually go against the flow of the 1/4 sliders you have (e.g. 02:10:405 (4,1,2,3) - and 02:13:315 (4,1,2,3) - or an extreme examples being 02:14:951 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ) which end up having pretty snappy movements which doesn't really play too well in high bpm maps when alternating
I will look over all of them and make them flow better since this is quite minor to me and something I can at least attempt to fix

Ok overall I do agree with you - While I am still focusing on the bg music - I will change up the map where I focus more to the vocals and other sounds - As of now I have already change some section that is now following the vocals
and not just 1/4 sliders all over the place

- Overall flow is no problem - I had plenty of testplays with people who can play this map and none had a problem with it in it current state and mods from other experience modders including ex bns, ex qat, etc - had only mention about how about the that was way too uncomfortable in some patterns(which was change oh course) but I do see that I can make it flow better with your suggestions since it not a big deal to me

- I am not updating yet since too many things to change at once -

I am not expecting you to come back since it looks you don't like the map in it current state
but it would be cool if you pm me if you would like to look at it again if all of the changes above is fixed which I can do quickly.
(not rushing it though - just that these changes I am gonna do is not gonna cost me to rework the whole thing due the map's nature in general since it is fairly simple)

I will be done tomorrow or the next day

thank you for taking the time with me

revive

Joe Castle wrote:

:( revive

Meh I rather work on something that will actually get rank - It pretty much was a clear waste of time and I don't wanna rework it knowing that

Hailie wrote:

Joe Castle wrote:

:( revive

Meh I rather work on something that will actually get rank - It pretty much was a clear waste of time and I don't wanna rework it knowing that

ill shoot my 47 kudos if you go to rank

Joe Castle wrote:

ill shoot my 47 kudos if you go to rank

ehhh Idk about that but if you get a bn to actually look at it and be interest in it if I rework it then i'll happily revive it

other than that, this map was pretty much a negative experience that I didn't even enjoy much to the point I almost quit mapping working on it

Map going through a complete overhaul but at the same time I am not ranking it anymore so its be a long time before that comes