1. Corrosion (6,72 stars, 1295 notes)

1. Imo the AR doesn't fit the map, I know you're going for the x.x pattern but 9.5 or lower is what fits best
2. 00:13:332 (6) - can blanket (4), if you change it, I would also rotate (5) with it
3. 00:22:423 (4) - would look better if you rotated 4 to 6º towards (1)
4. 00:24:696 (1) - why did you change the pattern from here? it's playable, but can't help but feel some notes should be mapped like 00:25:302 - and 00:25:908 - for example
5. Try to use the same distance between 00:28:787 (2,3) - and 00:34:242 (2,3) - and so on for consistency
6. 00:40:909 (5) - this note should be to the left of 00:40:606 (4) - to have the same flow as the previous sliders, current position creates a bad flow
7. 01:03:787 (3,4,5,6) - weird pattern due to spacing, a suggestion would be to use the same spacing between 01:03:333 (2,3) - and 01:03:939 (4,5) - which would be 1.6x and the same between 01:03:787 (3,4) - and 01:04:242 (5,6) - which would be 2.0x
8. 01:25:152 (3) - ctrl+g? love the flow it gives
9. 01:29:848 (5,6) - ctrl+g
10. 01:36:515 (7,8) - a jump like this is rude after a stream, even for a 6.7 star map ;c maybe you could increase the spacing on the stream a bit?
11. 01:44:242 (7,8,9) - this spacing variation feels really out of place and doesn't fit with the rest of the chorus, try to increase it a bit
12. 01:54:696 (5,6,7) - in this pattern (7) should be highlighted, it's more important for the map to fit the music than to have a triangle pattern
13. 01:57:273 (5,1,2) - does anyone like to play patterns like this? ; ; everyone I know hates them eheh
14. 02:02:878 (1) - well this is a personal opinion but positioning this a bit lower would improve flow. By a bit I mean mirror (6) ahah
15. 02:31:969 (1,2) - ctrl+j flows better imo
16. 02:46:364 (6,1) - this jumps has bad flow, maybe ctrl+h?
17. 03:03:788 (7,8) - same as before
18. 03:23:787 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern is really messy, due to spacing mostly, I'd say it would be better ti rework the positioning of (3), (4) and (8)
19. 04:08:787 (4) - man these slider shapes xD they are really confusing and flow breaking, most are ok but I really think this one is the worst due to the following stream with the weird jump spacing
20. 04:14:242 (3) - I thought this was unrankable? ._.
21. 04:17:424 (1) - this is an awful way to start a stream x.x I think the stream and the previous pattern shouldn't be connected like this, it becomes really hard to read and at this point in the song, it's really frustrating to fail / combobreak when it could be avoided
22. 04:22:878 (1,1,1,1) - shouldn't these be 1/6 as well?
23. 04:25:151 - imo we should be able to click this strong note, suggestion would be to end the slider at 04:25:075 - and add a note at this point
24. 04:27:273 (3,1) - overkill jump, should even have the same spacing as the kicksliders
25. 04:28:787 - same as before
26. 04:38:636 (9,10) - increase this jump, try to stack it on (10)'s slider end or somthing, currently it feels too short and breaks flow of the pattern
27. 04:51:969 (1,2,3,4,5) - imo mirroring this whole pattern would improve flow, just because the jump from 04:51:818 (8) - into 04:51:969 (1) - is really hard to achieve without sliderbreaking
28. 05:15:605 (1) - from here forward you repeat patterns you used before, that's fine but as it is the end of the song, and the music is all hyped up I think you could increase the spacing a bit for all the remaining part of the map, as it feels really underwhelming currently

1. Maybe add "Metal" to tags (I know you already have Steel and Iron, but Metal would be good as well :>). Other than that, metadata and tags look good as far as I can see.
2. This map has very dense, complex patterns with very sudden and often spacing changes all over, making it very hard to read. Looks good, but as it is now, you might as well use that extra 0.1 AR to make it more playable, and that's coming from someone fairly proficient at reading EZ mod and old school style maps. The style reminds me of BD's airman, overmapped fullscreen jumps at ~200bpm, but that said, I like it and think it's a good map, and that you should keep going in this direction, just make it AR10.
3. 00:53:787 (1,2) - Would play better with more spacing in between them IMO
4. 01:35:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The stream would play and read better if it was connected to the end of the slider
5. 03:02:878 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
6. 04:08:787 (4) - Looks cool but same thing as above, except much bigger problem in this case cos the slider goes back into itself.
7. 04:09:696 (9) - Could be weird to read, maybe more standard sliders would be suited here
8. 04:12:424 (4,7) - ^
9. 04:15:605 (1,2,3) - No reason really for these triples to be spaced like that, just really hard to play.
10. 04:52:878 (3,4,5,7,8,9) - ^
11. 05:14:242 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
    04:16:666 (12,13,14,15,16) - The spacing on this should be the same as the previous jumps imo, just make more jumps here instead of killing the spacing like that, can be hard to read since they are the same spacing as the stream right after.

- Milhofo - wrote:

Yo, from your queue ^^

[Steel]

1. Imo the AR doesn't fit the map, I know you're going for the x.x pattern but 9.5 or lower is what fits best 6.8 stars, full 1/3 jumps, I think it's fine
2. 00:13:332 (6) - can blanket (4), if you change it, I would also rotate (5) with it
3. 00:22:423 (4) - would look better if you rotated 4 to 6º towards (1) It's fine
4. 00:24:696 (1) - why did you change the pattern from here? it's playable, but can't help but feel some notes should be mapped like 00:25:302 - and 00:25:908 - for example Stronger other sounds here
5. Try to use the same distance between 00:28:787 (2,3) - and 00:34:242 (2,3) - and so on for consistency Blanket
6. 00:40:909 (5) - this note should be to the left of 00:40:606 (4) - to have the same flow as the previous sliders, current position creates a bad flow
7. 01:03:787 (3,4,5,6) - weird pattern due to spacing, a suggestion would be to use the same spacing between 01:03:333 (2,3) - and 01:03:939 (4,5) - which would be 1.6x and the same between 01:03:787 (3,4) - and 01:04:242 (5,6) - which would be 2.0x
8. 01:25:152 (3) - ctrl+g? love the flow it gives
9. 01:29:848 (5,6) - ctrl+g This fits the next slider better, even though it's just a bit
10. 01:36:515 (7,8) - a jump like this is rude after a stream, even for a 6.7 star map ;c maybe you could increase the spacing on the stream a bit? I prefer this tbh
11. 01:44:242 (7,8,9) - this spacing variation feels really out of place and doesn't fit with the rest of the chorus, try to increase it a bit
12. 01:54:696 (5,6,7) - in this pattern (7) should be highlighted, it's more important for the map to fit the music than to have a triangle pattern IMO this plays better
13. 01:57:273 (5,1,2) - does anyone like to play patterns like this? ; ; everyone I know hates them eheh
14. 02:02:878 (1) - well this is a personal opinion but positioning this a bit lower would improve flow. By a bit I mean mirror (6) ahah But but but, 256:192 <3
15. 02:31:969 (1,2) - ctrl+j flows better imo
16. 02:46:364 (6,1) - this jumps has bad flow, maybe ctrl+h?
17. 03:03:788 (7,8) - same as before No change
18. 03:23:787 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern is really messy, due to spacing mostly, I'd say it would be better ti rework the positioning of (3), (4) and (8) Symmetry
19. 04:08:787 (4) - man these slider shapes xD they are really confusing and flow breaking, most are ok but I really think this one is the worst due to the following stream with the weird jump spacing
20. 04:14:242 (3) - I thought this was unrankable? ._. Made it something else
21. 04:17:424 (1) - this is an awful way to start a stream x.x I think the stream and the previous pattern shouldn't be connected like this, it becomes really hard to read and at this point in the song, it's really frustrating to fail / combobreak when it could be avoided Added NC to fix this
22. 04:22:878 (1,1,1,1) - shouldn't these be 1/6 as well? Nope, it's 1/3 here
23. 04:25:151 - imo we should be able to click this strong note, suggestion would be to end the slider at 04:25:075 - and add a note at this point
24. 04:27:273 (3,1) - overkill jump, should even have the same spacing as the kicksliders
25. 04:28:787 - same as before
26. 04:38:636 (9,10) - increase this jump, try to stack it on (10)'s slider end or somthing, currently it feels too short and breaks flow of the pattern
27. 04:51:969 (1,2,3,4,5) - imo mirroring this whole pattern would improve flow, just because the jump from 04:51:818 (8) - into 04:51:969 (1) - is really hard to achieve without sliderbreaking
28. 05:15:605 (1) - from here forward you repeat patterns you used before, that's fine but as it is the end of the song, and the music is all hyped up I think you could increase the spacing a bit for all the remaining part of the map, as it feels really underwhelming currently

That's all I found, I really like the map, it has some really nice and fun patterns and will definitely try to get nice combos on it :v good luck!

cheezstik wrote:

[Steel]

1. Maybe add "Metal" to tags (I know you already have Steel and Iron, but Metal would be good as well :>). Other than that, metadata and tags look good as far as I can see.
2. This map has very dense, complex patterns with very sudden and often spacing changes all over, making it very hard to read. Looks good, but as it is now, you might as well use that extra 0.1 AR to make it more playable, and that's coming from someone fairly proficient at reading EZ mod and old school style maps. The style reminds me of BD's airman, overmapped fullscreen jumps at ~200bpm, but that said, I like it and think it's a good map, and that you should keep going in this direction, just make it AR10.
3. 00:53:787 (1,2) - Would play better with more spacing in between them IMO It's fine because it's the start of the vocals which is quite calm
4. 01:35:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The stream would play and read better if it was connected to the end of the slider Blanket
5. 03:02:878 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ Blanket
6. 04:08:787 (4) - Looks cool but same thing as above, except much bigger problem in this case cos the slider goes back into itself. Changed shape alittle for better readability, should be fine
7. 04:09:696 (9) - Could be weird to read, maybe more standard sliders would be suited here ^^
8. 04:12:424 (4,7) - ^
9. 04:15:605 (1,2,3) - No reason really for these triples to be spaced like that, just really hard to play. It's fine, a really dense part
10. 04:52:878 (3,4,5,7,8,9) - ^ ^^
11. 05:14:242 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ Not that bad
    04:16:666 (12,13,14,15,16) - The spacing on this should be the same as the previous jumps imo, just make more jumps here instead of killing the spacing like that, can be hard to read since they are the same spacing as the stream right after.

And that's all I got, GL.

Kuki wrote:

[Steel]
01:00:757 (8,9) - Ctrl+G, it improves flow imo, you have a slider curved left, which is odd because you force the player to move quickly from (9) to (1) when the cursor would be moving right, this means that there is a pause where the player has to slow his movement to hit it. Intended, it's a ctrl H of 00:59:242 (1) -
01:25:152 (3) - Ctrl+G. An other mod told me that before (and I applied it), but I prefer current one (same distance
01:25:454 (4,5) - Looks like blanket is a little off here, try to fix. It's not, look at 01:25:309
01:57:273 (5) - Ctrl+G, I don't like the flow here. You have the cursor moving up very fast only to stop and move down, and the fact that it happens twice makes it even worse flow in my opinion. It's fine
01:57:727 (2) - If you ctrl+G above, then ctrl+G this too.
04:47:878 (5) - Ctrl+G What? That makes it terrible flow

I would also generally suggest perhaps at 9.5-9.6, as I feel 9.9 is not really needed here I refuse to change AR. And also perhaps bring HP Drain down to 6 since it is a mini-marathon and also the difficulty is quite high.

Aerous wrote:

M4M

General :
Mapping style feels like older mapping styles , so I don't really know if I can help you that much. Most of these are suggestions

Steel :
00:12:423 (2,3,4,5) - I would map this part like what you did at the start with the repeat slider and not the three notes. If you want to change it do 00:20:151 (5,6,7) - Well, the music consists of 4 parts, 1 and 3 are "the same" and 2 & 4
00:16:514 (5) - I don't know why you made a jump here , should be lower considering the music didn't change much at all.
00:23:636 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Are these randomly placed? Should make a shape or something. Or atleast make 00:24:545 (11,1) - have more distance than 00:23:787 (6,7,8) - Because of the finish hitsound
00:25:606 (3) - Stack ontop of 00:24:393 (10) -
00:41:060 (1) - Smooth it out a bit
00:45:606 (6,7,8,9) - NC this , might screw up players who are sightreading
01:13:787 (1,2) - I learned this from pishifat , try not to have red anchor at the end of the slider , wont look nice. 01:16:060 (2) - This one is ok Blanket
01:16:060 (2) - CTRL + G Weird/Bad flow
01:25:605 (5) - I don't like this anti jump ish , more distance here Looks fine to me
01:27:727 (4,5) - Try to fix the flow here ? Kind of awkward , just an example : http://puu.sh/jjiDw/6abbc1bf54.jpg
01:31:363 (5,6) - The music here isn't that strong , don't like how you have this sharp angle I reallo love such sliders, keeping for now
01:42:424 (4,5,6) - RIP
01:42:424 (4,5,6) - CTRL + G
01:50:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - NICE , but NC these 01:50:606 (4,7,10) - easier to read
01:56:060 (2,3) - Switch spots This flows better
02:10:151 (1) - Kind of weird how you mapped the drums and then suddenly the vocal here
02:31:515 (4,6) - CTRL G
03:09:697 (6,7,8) - Not a huge fan of the transition
03:09:697 (6,7,8) - CTRL +G
03:24:394 (7,8) - Thats super sharp with the jumps
04:08:787 (4,5,6,7,8) - Careful with stream jumps
04:10:302 (1) - I would reduce the jump under 4.00x Keeping it high, as it's all high spaced here

eINess wrote:

[steel]

1. you don't need those http://puu.sh/jmv04/04c5e82941.png
2. make sure these http://puu.sh/jmv21/2999c502bf.jpg
3. and why you didn't add preview Point?

[steel]

1. 00:16:515 (5,6,7) - sounds really werid. I think you should be emphasize 00:16:969 - white tick. more fits with songs. and hitsounds is kinda noisy... remve some clap better.
   
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2. 00:20:151 (5,6,7) - same above.
3. 00:38:182 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - why you use N - clap here? Do not fits with the song at all. you can use additions drum's hitsounds. like here 03:32:272 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Here they fit better, but I also forgot to add custom samples
4. 00:42:879 (1) - Ever so it is not necessary to emphasize 00:44:090 - here but The difference in distance is too severe. A little bit more Increase the distance. or stack is good idea. Intended
5. 00:47:727 (3,4) - this DS should be longer then 00:47:576 (2,3) - you know why. looks hitsounds.
6. 00:49:544 (3,4,5) - those are same.
7. 00:50:152 (1,2,3) - same reason here > 42:879 (1) - same reply
8. 00:53:181 (8,9) - Are you sure this DS good at play and fits with song? that's make bad quality only. Strong drum in the background makes this fit
9. 00:53:484 (10,11,1) - same above.
10. 01:34:999 (3,4) - this DS should be longer then 01:34:848 (2,3) -
11. 01:42:727 (6,1) - this DS feel good but not this DS 01:42:424 (4,5) - This highlights that might not at all. Clap
12. 01:54:695 (5,6,7) - try this rhythm. looks better with song.
    
    SPOILER

    
13. 02:34:696 (3,4) - fixed Blanket. you can make better :3
14. 02:44:547 (5,1,2) - hmm... try don't stacks. jumps looks better to read and playable. It is better, as the time between them is 2/3., as opposed to the 1/3 which is Always mapped with jumps
15. 03:06:060 (6) - pls emphasize this clap sound. Increase more DS better.
16. 03:18:334 (1) - add NC.
17. 04:53:333 (7,8,9) - make stacks better. and 02:35:455 (6,1) - same here.
18. 05:14:242 (1,2,3) - ^
19. 05:14:697 (1,2,3) - ^
20. 05:15:152 (1,2,3) - ^ All these are intended
21. 04:57:879 (2) - tail didn't stcak with 04:56:970 (6) -

hmm.. some DS kinda killing player x_x
anyway, Good luck~

1. setings are kinda random, just use OD9, other settings also looks weird to meas CS and AR tbh
2. 00:23:333 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - patterns feel random and the sudden jump between 2 and 3 will piss off people, I suggest you to gradually introduce jumps instead of doing them suddenly
3. 00:41:060 (1) - tbh slider shapes like this one looks really bad as in a 2007 map, I'll suggest you to remade this shapes a bit more curvy
4. 00:42:879 (1,2) - when you have this bigs gaps in the timeline try to use a masive spacing, doing this kind of antijump play forced and will cause alot of early hits
5. 00:44:545 (4) - don't end sliders on such strong beats, since they need a click action,also by ignoring the cymbal you are breaking your rhythm pattern with other places and yes 00:44:696 - is the place where your NC should be
6. 00:51:817 (4) - same as above, also you forgot to add finish at 00:51:969 -
7. 00:53:787 (1) - this is ending on nothing in the music
8. 00:55:302 - you are missing a beat here, actually the transition between 00:55:151 (3,4) - is really hard to guess, cuz the rhythm isn't nice
9. 01:00:454 (6) - NC cause of antijump, you did it on other places
10. 01:07:727 (6) - ^ also, why is 7 stacked here, I don't see a reason since the music is similar just use the same space as others
11. 01:19:243 (1,2,1) - need more spacing cuz the big gap between them
12. 01:36:515 (7,8) - a massive jump after a stream isn't a good idea tbh
13. 01:45:908 (5,6) - why the sudden massive jump D;, music is basically the same in all the pattern, there isn't an objetive reason to apply this screen jump
14. 01:57:273 (5) - same as 00:44:545 - also missing finish at 01:57:424 -
15. 02:21:211 (1) - spinner end sounds really bad, reduce volume by alot
16. 02:44:546 (5) - same as 00:44:545
17. 02:52:575 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - I already see this part before if I'm not wrong, not a fan of copypast TBH, same things as I said before apply to all this section, since its the same
18. 04:05:151 (4,7) - looks bad and I feel this isn't rankable slider patch its too hard to follow, players will be like ¨what's this, and yes combo break xd
19. 04:08:787 (4,5) - pls don't, how arre players supposed to read and play this? slider back itself then a 1/6 stream jump, patterns like this should never been used IMO
20. 04:16:969 (1,1,1) - first NC is ok for the antijump, but what are the other 2 NCs supposed to do?
21. 04:17:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - first long stream in the map, I suggest you to add some kick slider in the middle to avoid players being surprised by this
22. 04:53:333 (7,8,9) - this isn't a good idea, just use normal spacing like the previous one 04:52:878 (3,4,5) -
23. 05:14:242 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - similar as above

Irreversible wrote:

hi

00:10:151 (1,2,3,4,1) - If you analyze this pattern a bit closer, you can see it doesn't make much sense. I expected something repeating, but I see http://puu.sh/jFW9p/38b5267862.jpg. I personally suggest something similar to http://puu.sh/jFWaT/62d48af794.jpg, just so it makes sense.
00:16:514 (5,6,1) - Could form a triangle, will look neat and flow well. Adjust the angles slightly, and it will be cool. http://puu.sh/jFWe0/a71cbf57ec.jpg
00:23:333 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Again, please take care of your patterning. Look at http://puu.sh/jFWhp/9c833cb088.jpg, it looks completely random, no? Additionally, the flow is broken 00:23:484 (4,5) - here; I suggest something similar to this http://puu.sh/jFWo2/954696609d.jpg, you can see 2 lines: the straight one at the bottom, and the upwards curved on the top. Adjust the flow to your likings after.
00:28:333 (1) - Not enough spacing, bad emphasis. 00:27:272 (4,5) - Compare to this emphasis, you did well here.
00:31:060 (6,7) - This stack makes no sense and kills movement. Basically same suggestion as above, as this pattern looks slightly random. Additionally, 00:31:818 (11,1) - has not enough spacing (emphasis)
00:34:242 (2,3) - Really weird how close they are; compare to this 00:28:787 (2,3) - . It looks better.
00:38:939 (10) - I suggest stacking it with 5 for a way better flow. The way you decrease movement here is not supported by the song or anything at all.
00:44:091 (2,3) - Unreadable antijump imo, would increase spacing slightly. I prefer this antijump actually
00:45:606 (1,2,3,1) - Well, might work for variation but I generally dislike it, wht about an up down pattern?
00:51:363 (2,3,1) - Same antijump prolem Same answer
00:55:151 (3,4,5,1) - I don't see much sense her eithere, what did it exactly follow to justify a movement break here? Quite weak sounds
01:07:727 (6) - According to your logic NC is missing. How? I thought I added it by previous mods O.o
01:20:454 (3) - Wrong rhythm, you follow the vocals I see that but you started off at the wrong point. I'd go for http://puu.sh/jFWFz/903953cb62.jpg if you wanna follow them.
01:25:605 (5) - It looks weird that this isn't symmetric, considering that the rest of the pattern was. Symmetrical perfect blankets are nigh impossible to make. This flows well. If someone has coordinates I'll change it w/o doubt
01:33:787 (1,1) - You can improve the curve part of the slider.
01:36:515 (1) - NC for vocal?
01:43:787 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Could benefit from higher spacing if you ask me, to support the songs intensity.
01:46:515 (1) - emphasis missing here, would increase spacing.
01:58:182 (5) - wrong rhythm, plese don't cover the downbeat with a slider end. Makes the triplet feel more natural and better
02:01:969 - Try a same-sided triangle pattern here to finsh off better: http://puu.sh/jFWSu/df6697f5b4.jpg suggestion Made them triangles, but not in 6-shape
02:10:151 (1) - how about adding a kiai time for this slider? LOL
02:17:424 (1) - same, also, nice pattern
02:27:575 (2) - a bit siletn hitsounds, could risk DQ
02:44:546 (5,1,2) - cool idea tbh
02:52:272 (2) - ignores downbeat again, would not do that just for the sake of symmetry.
02:52:878 (5) - same, is this part copy pasted? xD would go for symmetry here Same
03:10:605 (2,3,4,5,6) - would increase spacing progressiely It does
i'll skip the rest of the kiai, sometimes it seems copy pasted so just apply the things above again

03:51:969 (1) - you can improve that one, looks rly weird, try getting better curves
stream part is cool, but the slow part contains many weird looking sliders.. i'd try to clean them up somehow, i can suggest nold / kiiwa / skystar maps to get ideas
05:14:242 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - really cool <3

Yeah, last kiai was quite cool.

For the rest, please work on consistency and patterning a bit, and you'll be fine. GL

Regraz wrote:

Take a place here. Will mod tomorrow

Unused hitsounds: soft-hitwhistle.wav

00:10:151 (1) - For this part, I guess its better to use a more consistent DS. You could use jumps at where you put finishes and keep regular DS at other notes. Kay

I'd have to say that the DS should be considered again. You use very large DS on notes but the DS on sliders are quite unstable and vary from very small to very large with reasons that are not that distinct.
For instance, 01:53:333 (6,1) - The DS on this slider is very large, that's OK because the pitch of the vocal here is high. But when the pitch gets lower, the DS is still very huge. (at 01:55:605 (1,2) - ). Furthermore, 02:01:060 (1,2) - Here the pitch is quite high but the DS is too small.
Another exapmle is the sliders here 02:33:787 (1,2,3) - have small DS while 02:30:151 (1,2,3) - here they are very large. But the music sounds nearly the same.
There're other parts like this. Maybe you can think over them again. Fixed most of them

02:44:242 (4,5,1,2) - Quite hard to read. I kinda like the way this works

03:21:060 (1) - Ctrl+G?

05:30:302 (1) - Use lower volume on the spinner end.

hitsounds are fine.
Streams are quite nice xD
Good Luck!

[ owo] wrote:

Hey! My M4M request mod here =w=

Iron

00:10:151 (1,2) - Pretty sure making this parallel with 00:11:060 (3) isn't too difficult. It'll make it look better too. (rotating it 15 degrees clockwise works) True, but I kinda want to have solid DS
00:23:636 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - The focus of these jumps is up-down-up-down while the rhythm is 1-2-3-1-2-3. Well, it's actually 1-1-1-1-1-1 due to the drums. Good point though, but I prefer current's
I would prefer a remap of these jumps because right now you focused a duple or double rhythm rather than the song's triplet rhythm Soo many triangles
00:28:030 (7,8,1) - To me at least, hit circles with large ds but not much of an "angle" between the jumps are harder to hit. So a jump like this to me is not as "fun" as other jumps are. (aka I don't like flow like this in jumps, but hey, just my two cents)
00:31:060 (6,7,8,9,10) - Same as I described earlier
00:41:060 (1) - This doesn't look that good to me, especially the inside curve of the slider. I would smooth it out. Also, the jump is pretty large o.O Elbows <3
01:27:424 (3,4,5) - I know you want radial symmetry, but the flow is awkward (on mouse at least)
01:33:636 (8,1) - idk, but this anti-jump feels weird to play, especially when considering the strength of the next beat in mind Intended
01:35:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This stream could be better to play if 01:36:060 was a hitcircle, not a slider tail, especially since 01:36:060 is an important beat.
As Jenny would say, "passive hitsounding" It's the same as the previous part with a ctrl H, so I'm keeping it
01:56:515 (3,4) - Blanket >:C
01:57:424 (1,2,3,4) - This reminds me of Garven's mapping style, low angle jumps, which I personally don't like x.x
01:58:182 (5) - Passive hitsounding issue
02:10:151 (1) - This SV slowdown was pretty unexpected IMO Sliderticks
02:44:546 (5,1,2) - This was a bit awkward for me It's fine
03:00:909 (8,1) - Mentioned earlier
03:02:878 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same
03:30:000 (7,1) - This is a pretty underwhelming jump, considering 03:29:697 (6,7) and that it's the climax of this musical phrase
04:08:787 (4,5,6,7,8) - Passive hitsound
04:16:969 (1,2,3) - This leading into the stream makes the start of the stream pretty difficult to read on the 1st or 2nd try. Moving it away or perhaps not stacking would fix that Stack is intended for build up
04:24:696 (1) - Get rid of slider tail hitsound?
04:57:879 (2,3) - Better blanket?
04:59:242 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Tornado jumps get tiring after a while, just put triangle jump varients and a bit of randomness. Also applies to the many times you used tornado jumps before.
05:06:364 (8,1) - Underwhelming jump

Oh boy you love your symmetry
Sorry if I couldn't help your map at all T_T

Thanks!
No reply means fixed


Good luck, and if my mod dosen't help, feel free to cancel the M4M request

1. All looks fine.

1. 00:14:696 (3) - I'm not entirely sure if this was intentional, but would look cleaner if the tail of this slider completely overlapped the head of 00:13:787 (1) - .
2. 00:17:424 (1) - I don't really get it, this is bit more of a stronger beat than 00:18:333 (5) - , yet (5) has 3.6x DS on it...
3. 00:28:181 (8) - Maybe would be better if this was at x=344 y=144 to create a parallel pattern from 00:26:969 (2,5,6) - .
4. 00:35:606 (1) - I do hear a cymbals in the head of this slider, would be better to add a finish here.
5. 00:45:606 (1,1) - If this is part of your NC scheme, then I can't argue, but I don't really get why these has NCs on them when all the previous similar notes (like 00:23:787 (6,9) - ) doesn't have a NC on them.
6. 01:27:423 (3,5) - I don't really know if this was intentional, but I think unequal distance here makes the pattern look a bit weird.
7. 01:56:969 (4) - Personally I think the symmetrical pattern shouldn't be broke by this slider, this has quite a strong vocal on it. Just copy and paste (3) and ctrl + H then ctrl + G for the symmetry.
8. 02:19:166 - Would be good if you could include a circle here for a triplet following the drum beats. If this is applied, claps should be added on the circle which is added here, as well as 02:19:091 (12,1) - .
9. 02:27:878 (5,6,7) - Is this triangular pattern rotated on purpose?
10. 04:14:242 (3) - Not really sure about this wiggle, it is pretty unnoticable during gameplay... May as well be a bit more harsher.
11. 04:27:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Honestly I feel that the whole stream is bit overmapped, I don't really hear any instruments that justifies this. It can just be three 1/2 sliders, with wriggles like your mapping style.
12. 05:30:150 (1) - Aesthetically would be better if this was on the centre of the grid.

1. 03:03:788 (7) - NC, like 01:36:515 (1) - here
2. 00:24:242 (9,10,11) - i think this moment has a great diff gap with starting patterns, when i first time played it, i didn't expect that wide one. How about make the beginning a bit harder or reduce DS here?
3. 00:31:969 (1) - how about ctrl+g and 00:32:424 (2,3) - ctrl+g here?
4. 00:39:242 (1) - better stack with (7)
5. 00:46:515 (1,2,3) - how about this, and next objects on your own
6. 01:30:151 (1,2) - ctrl+h, next objects can be ctrl+H'ed too, but i'd suggest to put them by another way.
7. 02:17:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - where are NC for every 3 circles? or i can't get idea
8. 02:29:848 (5,6) - how about ctrl+g, and move this one 02:30:151 (1) to make a sort of diamond
9. 02:33:787 (1,2,3) - i think it's too close
10. 02:44:546 (5,1,2) - what is it? looks like unfinished sliders for some pattern, which you didn't used. if it's a pattern already, it's too confusing and misreadable
11. 02:53:787 (1) - how about this? It's stacked with end of (3)
12. 03:20:151 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - i think this order will be better, and ctrl+h next 2 sliders
13. 04:29:924 - circle here and 04:29:999 - here
14. 04:33:029 (4,5) - ctrl+g again, i like these things
15. 04:48:333 (1,2) - in moments like this and the next symmetrical sliders i think you can increase DS
16. 04:56:515 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - you can experiment with ctrl+g, this is one of variants ( (3) is highlighted )

Slider anchors/nodes must not be used to manipulate slider speeds (whether they are normal nodes or red ones). Using extra nodes to make a slider "wiggle" is usually fine, but using so many that the slider gets scrunched up (which also makes the sliderball go crazy) or become a "hold slider" is abuse of the hitobject's intended use and is not allowed.

Alphabet wrote:

Hey
nub mod pls don't hate

Steel

General
Everything is okay here.

Steel
00:44:696 (1) - New combo isn't needed.

00:51:969 (1) - ^ But I think you should add a NC at 00:52:423 (3) - Doesn't feel well

01:25:152 (3) - Flip this around do it's symmetrical to 01:24:696 (1) - Technically, this would be correct, but look at the movement. (1) goes from the middle to the outside. A reverse means Outside to inside, which is what it currently does

02:12:424 (4,5,6) - You should remove this triplet and make it like this: http://prntscr.com/8i5ejp

02:21:211 (1) - Can you add a break after this spinner? It's a bit mean for people that can just survive those triangles.

04:17:424 (1) - to 04:24:165 (6) - You should add only a couple of repeating sliders inbetween this, imo it's a bit too long. Kinda intended

04:24:696 (1) - Try and shorten this by a tick. But then it loses it's shape ;w;

04:34:696 (5) - not really needed, but it'd be better if you made this slider symmetrical on both sides.

04:38:333 (1) - NC

04:53:409 (8) - I think you should remove this circle. Nah, it follows the drums


Did I do good things? o-o
Love the symmetry in this, and it's hard
Good luck

Deppyforce wrote:

Ayy M4M :3

[Steel]
Overall : I Think There Are A Bit Too Much illuminatiTriangles Patterns Here

00:14:696 (3,4,5,6) - I Think (4) On (3)'s Head Is hard To Read, Maybe Change Pattern?

I Think 00:23:333 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - And 00:30:606 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Should Be Same

01:00:454 (1,2,3,4,1) - Rotate This Star A Bit Will Make It Looks Better I like the antijump between (5,1)

01:07:878 (2) - This Should Be Further Away From (1)

01:24:696 (1) - Maybe Ctrl + G Nah, breaks distnce

02:00:757 (4) - Move Further Up And Move 02:00:908 (5) At The Center Of The Grid

02:10:151 (1) - SV Change Is Bit Too Much imo Not really

02:12:878 (8) - Add NC Nah, breaks consistency

02:45:453 (2) - This Is Hard To Read lol Maybe Ctrl + H Lol, it's quite easy actually

04:22:878 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - I Think The Spacing Is Too Big For The Other Jumps' Spacing Throughout The Map (Diff Spike) This is not even close to being a diff spike, spacing is relatively low

04:44:545 (3,1) - Should Be Bigger Jump Like The Way You Make These Triangle Larger Every 3 Notes And Maybe Increase Stream's Spacing A Bit As it's following a stream, that's be ridiculous

05:11:818 (6) - Should Be Somewhere Like x254 y374

05:44:242 - Spinner End Here It's fine

I Can't Make Good Mod On Extra Marathons ;w;
Good Luck :3

Rakuen wrote:

As requested!

Legend

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue
Pink = Will be discussed if not changed

Hitsound

• Unused hitsound:

1. soft-hitwhistle.wav

Steel

• Is the diff name related? (not the type of "metal")

1. 00:21:060 - Finish (constant)
2. 02:45:453 (2) - This can be like Ctrl+H, looks better for me
3. 03:33:787 - Could make the volume slightly higher, the background noise is still there, and the custom hitsounds are too low
4. 04:05:757 (5) - Feels like too close to 04:05:151 (4) -
5. 04:14:242 (3) - No way...sure this is rankable Talked about this with you in-game, not sure what caused this to happen?
6. 04:44:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Feels like a bit overmap here... ... It feels like a great build up for the next part, due to the high speed in that part

Uhh this map feels alike with my Tengaku, dunno why... >.>"

Call me back if you need!

Garven wrote:

So uh, you asked so here I be.

Firstly: I really like this map on a lower AR. I found 8.6 to work pretty well especially considering how slow-paced the map is. I feel so much hate coming in over me lower AR to under 9. Changed to 8.7

00:41:060 (1,1) - These are fugly and really stick out compared to the slider styles used before. If you're going to do a curved kink, use a 45 degree angle instead of a 90 like this.

SPOILER

00:45:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I'm not really understanding this pattern progression at all. You have back and forth for 2 sets, then go into a square with no real change in the music.

00:50:152 (1,2) - What's with this spacing?

01:11:666 (4,5,1) - You know, there's a lot of weird spacing going on that is obviously more for the sake of the pattern rather than the gameplay. You need to make patterns that actually work with the music and general flow otherwise you end up with weird stuff like this that makes me think it's more artsy than for someone to play and enjoy as a component of this game. I'm not going to mention any more of these, but they really take away from the experience.

It's also interesting that in the beginning the patterns are very free-form, but later on you turn to more symmetry mapping. I'm not sure if you were trying to follow a pattern anywhere with this transition, but I am not really seeing it.

02:25:605 - This delayed break makes no sense. Just end it at the default spot

04:12:424 (4,7) - Reduce that overlap please.

04:14:242 (3) - Why? Just have a normal slider if you're going to do this. This is just ugly and the initial viewing makes me think it's going to be slower due to the severe crunch. That you increase the speed makes the entire thing pointless and misleading.

04:17:424 (1) - And now for the ridiculous difficulty spike. Why is the spacing increasing as the stream goes on? Why is this even here when you compare it against the rest of the map? Tone this down A LOT. It doesn't belong in this map.

04:24:696 (1) - We don't allow sliders like this anymore that alter the speed at one point vs. another. Really? Wow, that sucks. Changed it

04:28:333 (1,1) - etc

That electronic hitsound really doesn't fit this song at all. Neither do the oriental hitsounds, tbh.

Overall I'm finding that you're overemphasizing phrase changes with your huge jump patterns after very low SV and distance snap which makes the map feel completely unbalanced and plays awkward.

Edit:

Also Iron and Steel are not similes fyi. You might want to think of a different difficulty name.

Garven wrote:

First off: check AI Mod please. Don't forget to playtest your map, otherwise you end up with problems like this.

So let's start getting into some detail work then.

00:27:878 (6,7,8) - This spacing is compromised because of you wanting to return to a stack. It plays poorly.
00:37:879 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Although I love the lower AR, when you start returning to previous stacks while changing your distance snap, it makes me want to break something.
There is still a very large disparity between each of the phrase changing jump sets even before we hit the first minute mark. I'm not sure what you're using as a metric to gauge how difficult you want to make each one, but just playing through this introduction makes me have to stare at the patterns instead of just feel them out naturally. There isn't really a natural flow to follow when it's so inconsistent.
01:07:272 (4,5) - Like right here: why is 4 and 5 the large jump? What in the music is prompting this jump?
01:14:999 (1,2,3) - And the same thing is going on here. If you're going to have jump sections, make sure that the jumps are at least relatively even throughout the pattern, otherwise it just feels random and without musical merit.
01:21:060 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ^No, here they do fit, the spacing is quite similar in the begin, and after 01:22:272 (7) - it is higher. This note is the start of the strong drums, thus the jumps deserve to be bigger
02:10:151 (1) - So although I know you're going for the whole blanket of the previous pattern, but the massive slowdown really hurts the game play a lot. I really recommend that you widen this out so that the slider is moving at a faster pace instead of at half pace.

Anyway, there's a lot more that is similarly problematic. I think this map needs a lot more work still.

1. 00:20:605 (6,7) - This is the only time you didn't map this with three circles or a repeat-slider and it feels a bit off, don't know exactly why but maybe it's because (5,6) doesn't require as much movement as (6,7) because of slider leniency?
2. 00:21:514 (2,3) - You sticked to distance snap until here, but nothing changes here so I don't see a reason for this to be a jump all of a sudden
3. 00:23:333 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - not a big fan of this pattern for two reasons: 1) It gives (5) the most emphasis of all the notes although (6) is actually the most important beat here imo 2) because it's a very sudden change from permanent x1,3-distance snap to x4,5-jump - imo it would fit way better to swap that pattern chronilogically, letting the spacing increase homogeneously instead of sudden jump and then decreasing for no real reason. Changing the spacing so much doesn't make much sense anyways since nothing changes at all, and you emphasize neither offbeats (which are the beats that make this part special, they got finishes too D:) nor onbeats this way : \
4. 00:30:605 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - pretty much the same, although even if you don't change anything from the previous one, I'd suggest to move the last stack next to (7) instead of (8), don't really see a reason for this to be spaced so low
5. 00:34:697 (3,4) - very low spacing, why not make it the same as 00:29:242 (3,4) ? There's nothing changing in the music after all
   
6. 00:42:879 (1,2) - confusingly low spacing as it's almost the same absolute distance as previous and following notes but double the time interval
7. 00:52:423 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - now here instead of decreasing the spacing towards the end, as you sort-of did with all these previous combos, you mostly increase it towards the by spacing (10) (which I like since it fits the importance of the beat in the music, but you never did that before) and (12) (which doesn't make that much sense), that's pretty inconsistent : \
8. 00:58:787 (6,7) - same as the very first point
9. 00:59:242 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - whoa, pretty huge spacing compared to the previous combos - I see that you probably intended to increase the spacing each combo but that's not really fitting to the song, and at least I only recognized that after looking at it three times, so I don't think that really works : \
10. 00:59:696 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - inconsistency with 01:06:969 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I like the second one more, because I'm having classical singing lessons and a pretty basic thing when singing Lieder is that if a verse or something like that is directly repeated it is more interesting to arrange it differently, the first time louder and the second time more quiet or smth like that, so that's why I like spacing the second time more than the first, it makes it more interesting, you kinda did it at 01:21:515 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) too
11. highly subjective but I don't like how 01:31:060 (3,4,5,6,7,8) plays : \
12. 01:45:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - In pretty much all of this Kiai these have been mapped very jumpy but not here, feels off. Also, I think you're missing at least one hitsound here
13. 01:51:969 (1,2) - same, pretty much the only time this is spaced so low D:
14. 02:06:061 (9) - get's almost no emphasis here although it's one of the important beats, maybe just 'merge' the two triangles into a hexagon?
15. 02:10:151 (1,2,3) - (2,3) shouldn't be seperated from the slidertail imo, it's the same group of hits in the song. Also, extremely inconsistent with 02:11:060 (4,5,6) lol.
16. 02:11:969 (1,2,3,4) - Don't really understand why this is stacked, it's a different kind of drumhits, and you didn't stack 02:12:424 (5,6,7,8) either. neither 02:27:424 (1,2,3,4) although these would at least be the same kind of drumhits ^^
17. 02:31:818 (6,1) - don't like that stack either, 02:31:515 (4,5,6,1) is a pattern of four equally important beats when you ignore (1) being the downbeat (which should give it even more emphasis, not a stack), (4,5,6) kinda build up to (1) but that's not represented with a stack, (1) doesn't belong to (6) in any way
18. 02:44:242 (4,5,1,2) - ewww, the beats on the tails of (5,1,2) are way more important than the heads, which gives completely wrong emphasis causing it to play really weird, and the NCs don't fit either because it should be on the tail of (5) which is obviously impossible this way. Also, it's pretty confusing to read when you space the two slider-pairs the same absolute distance when the time interval is doubled. Also, leaving out 02:45:302 is pretty random too when it's mapped every other time so far
19. 02:58:333 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This looks more like grouping it into 4 and 2 instead of 3 and 3 which you probably went for : \
20. 03:00:909 (8,1) - why stack this? D:
21. 03:01:060 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - uuh there is nothing in the song that would suggest spacing (1,2,3) so much and not spacing (3,4,5) at all, (4) is a really important beat
22. 03:04:242 (4) - again this beat deserves more spacing than all the others but you spaced it least? D:
23. 03:08:788 (2,3) - You probably blanketed things like these before but it's pretty inappropiate here as it doesn't give (3) the emphasis it deserves, also it's kinda confusing that 03:02:878 (1,2) is spaced almost the same when half the time interval. Should've pointed that out anyways: You have a lot of important beats on slidertails, which should generally be avoided, but I didn't say anything bc it could also be your 'style' or whatever, but spacing (1,2) at all is already problematic because it gives (2) really much emphasis and therefore suggests that (2) is on the white tic, as that would normally be the beat that you emphasize the most, so it's pretty weird to read and play
24. 03:11:060 (4,5,6,7) - You hitsounded these notes really intense, not like 03:10:605 (2,3) so it's really weird that you mapped them exactly the same, should be circles (as they are in the rest of the diff). You spaced sections where literally nothing changes at all extremely high, like 03:14:697 (3,4,5) but then you don't space the really important things at all, that's just really inconsistent and not fitting the song at all. 03:15:151 (6,1) is extremely too btw, especially when taking slider leniency into consideration
25. 03:17:424 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - again the second half of this pattern is hitsounded double as intense as the first half but mapped in the same way (the increase of spacing doesn't change so that's not sufficient), really weird. I think you used that pattern before, dunno if it's the same there
26. 03:22:424 (5,6) - the thing with intense hitsounding again, don't treat mapping and hitsounding as two independent things, they should complement each other!
27. 03:23:787 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - following the previous hitsounding-things, this is suddenly extremely high spaced but not hitsounded at all, it just feels off
28. 03:25:605 (4,5,6,7) and 03:29:697 (6,7) - just pointing these our too for the record, it's always the same issue
29. 03:33:787 (1,2) - This is the only time you didn't map this as 2/1-slider in this section, consider changing it to stay consistent
30. You're generally leaving out many 1/3-beats that are clearly audible, you only mapped around half of them, feels kinda weird : \

Zectro wrote:

Yo \o/ (the m4m thingy)

[Corrosion]
00:41:060 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This pattern just feels off and weird in comparison with the rest of the map
00:44:242 (3,4) - Spacing between these is confusing, since they have the same spacing as 00:42:879 (1,2) - even though 00:44:242 (3,4) - is way closer in to eachother in the timeline
00:45:606 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - Not really a fan of this pattern, it seems kinda ugly and doesn't really flow at all I disagree, patterns as these flow really well imo, and I love them
01:13:787 (1,2) - Shape of these is bleehhh Dem Blankets
01:17:424 (1) - This shape fits here because of the vocals but then 01:19:243 (1) - just feels out of place, but then again you need it to be the same for symmetry and EHHYUINI IDKANYMORE lol haha wot
01:49:242 (3,4) - I would change the positioning of these so they fit/look/flow better towards 01:48:333 (1,2) - Meh, it's fine, due to slider leniency
02:17:424 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - o.o
02:44:546 (5,1,2) - This looks and plays kinda ehh ARGHH< Why does everyone complain about this? I talked about this with multiple Qat and they all found it fine
03:16:515 (3,4) - Look, here it just feels/looks/flows way better than the other one
04:03:333 (3) - Dat slider ass could be nerfed :^) Nicki Minaj <3 Ok sorry
04:05:151 (4,7,3) - Shapes can look way better than this, cmon Be happy you didn't see the older ones, which all were ugly af, and on the border of unrankable, but it fits the song perfectly
04:10:605 (3) - ^ ^^
04:17:424 (1) - The big ass stream that starts here feels a little too overdone/long/over the top, you could add some more variation to the whole thing listening to the music, atm it just looks too cheap compared to the rest of the map imo Already nerfed it
04:44:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Should be different than 04:45:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - for sure
05:03:333 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The way you have to change direction from 05:01:060 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - feels a bit meh, you can make the flow WAY better Constant clockwise flow would become boring after a bit
05:08:333 (1,2) - Shape pls

Overall it seems like a cool map, I really love the theme, it also plays very cool to such an epic song.

Good luck!