17:51 Kibbleru: fark i closed tab by accident say that again pls
17:51 FlawlessTea: am i looking at insane?
17:51 Kibbleru: yes
17:52 FlawlessTea: i don't get how the rhythm is off :C
17:52 FlawlessTea: maybe i'm just bad
17:52 Kibbleru: ok
17:52 Kibbleru: time for explination
17:52 Kibbleru: well its really just for this part 00:47:671 -
17:52 Kibbleru: i can barely hear what you're trying to map
17:52 Kibbleru: with the slider HEAD
17:52 Kibbleru: and usualy slider heads are used for mapping really strong sounds
17:52 Kibbleru: and yet you have this trong sound at a slider end 00:47:827 -
17:53 FlawlessTea: oh should 2 slider end on the red
17:53 Kibbleru: strong sounds should be placed on slider head or circles
17:53 Kibbleru: actualy
17:53 Kibbleru: a suggestion for rhythm
17:53 Kibbleru: 00:47:202 (2,3) - just ctrl g these and thats a pretty fitting rhythm actualy
17:53 Kibbleru: but rearrange obviously
17:54 Kibbleru: 00:49:233 (1,2,3) - just make it like this rhythm here
17:54 FlawlessTea: ok
17:54 Kibbleru: you should never express a strong sound with a slider end
17:54 Kibbleru: it just feels weak
17:55 Kibbleru: i'd also use the rhythm of these 00:58:452 (6,7) - ctrl g'd as well
17:56 Kibbleru: oh right
17:56 Kibbleru: this overlap here 00:57:515 (4,5) -
17:56 Kibbleru: would be better if you used (4) to blanket the head of (5)
17:56 Kibbleru: so like this kinda
http://puu.sh/7W7pY.jpg17:56 FlawlessTea: uuuuuu too fast
17:58 Kibbleru: 01:00:483 (5,6) - for here try something like this instead
http://puu.sh/7W7w9.jpg17:58 FlawlessTea: ok i'll just
17:58 FlawlessTea: save this chat
17:58 Kibbleru: lel k
17:58 FlawlessTea: and then edit all of it later
17:58 FlawlessTea: can't keep up ><
17:59 Kibbleru: xD
17:59 Kibbleru: im not exactly sure why you have this slider going that extra 1/4 though 01:04:546 (3) -
18:00 Kibbleru: 01:05:640 (3) - same with this one
18:00 Kibbleru: if you have a good reason you can keep
18:00 Kibbleru: but it would map out these sounds 01:04:702 - 01:05:796 -
18:00 Kibbleru: ill post this log on the forum actualy
18:00 Kibbleru: after im done
18:00 FlawlessTea: ok ^^
18:01 Kibbleru: so 01:08:140 (1) - ASSUMING that you're mapping the vocals then you should not map 01:08:296 - with a slider end
18:01 Kibbleru: ASSUMING ur mapping vocals though
18:02 Kibbleru: i hear like a guitar thing or osmething
18:02 Kibbleru: or something
18:02 Kibbleru: in the back too
18:02 Kibbleru: so if you're mapping that then this is fine
18:02 FlawlessTea: uhhhhhh
18:02 FlawlessTea: i think i mapped the vocals for 1 and 2 of the beat
18:02 FlawlessTea: and then 3 + 4 i mapped the beat
18:03 FlawlessTea: = v=
18:03 Kibbleru: i think it would be interesting to map the guitar part though
18:03 Kibbleru: its good to have interesting rhythms
18:03 Kibbleru: however, if so, i suggest nc here 01:10:640 (6) - for consistency
18:05 Kibbleru: wait do u have claps?
18:05 Kibbleru: i havent heard any claps so far
18:05 Kibbleru: as in the hitsound
18:05 FlawlessTea: i have a few claps
18:05 FlawlessTea: like here 01:08:140
18:05 FlawlessTea: o_o;;;;
18:05 Kibbleru: wtf i dont see it lol
18:06 Kibbleru: o here 01:10:640 (6) -
18:06 FlawlessTea: yeah like that entire part
18:06 Kibbleru: ok do u know how to hitsound?
18:06 FlawlessTea: uhhhhhhh apparently not
18:06 Kibbleru: ok dw
18:06 Kibbleru: its easy
18:06 Kibbleru: ok
18:06 Kibbleru: first of all,
18:06 Kibbleru: the basic clap pattern
18:07 Kibbleru: well people usually find a custom clap
18:07 Kibbleru: that sounds like their drum
18:07 Kibbleru: i think u did that
18:07 Kibbleru: um
18:07 FlawlessTea: i think i'm using the default clap
18:07 Kibbleru: so u can A: put a clap ever 4 white ticks
18:07 Kibbleru: B: put one every 2
18:07 Kibbleru: C: put one every white ticks
18:07 Kibbleru: personally i'd put on every 2 white ticks
18:08 Kibbleru: on the 2nd and 4th white tick of the stanza
18:08 FlawlessTea: of every loud part of the map?
18:08 Kibbleru: every part of the map where u can hear drums
18:08 Kibbleru: ofc if you don't hear drums don't put clap
18:08 Kibbleru: but uh
18:08 Kibbleru: just for an example
18:09 Kibbleru: so starting from where the drums start
18:09 Kibbleru: 00:10:952 - 00:11:577 - 00:12:202 -
18:09 Kibbleru: so and so every 2
18:09 Kibbleru: white ticks
18:10 Kibbleru: and for streams or 1/4 patterns like this i would put a clap on every one of them 00:10:640 (2,3,4) -
18:11 FlawlessTea: seems kinda loud
18:11 Kibbleru: turn the volume down then lol
18:11 Kibbleru: also i wouldnt suggest using the default clap
18:11 Kibbleru: look for custom ones
18:11 Kibbleru: they sound 100x better
18:12 FlawlessTea: phew ok
18:12 Kibbleru: when i say turn the volume down i mean like
18:12 Kibbleru: press f6 and go to the volume tab
18:12 FlawlessTea: but like here 00:11:108
18:12 Kibbleru: i mean audio
18:12 FlawlessTea: wouldn't i put claps on the red
18:12 Kibbleru: u dont o-o
18:12 Kibbleru: u put claps every 2 WHITE ticks
18:13 Kibbleru: oh
18:13 Kibbleru: here
18:13 Kibbleru: um
18:13 Kibbleru: i think you should because there is like a stream thing ish
18:13 Kibbleru: a drumroll
18:13 FlawlessTea: no like
18:13 Kibbleru: and you definitely SHOULD put claps
18:13 FlawlessTea: maybe i'm musically illiterate o3o
18:14 Kibbleru: 00:11:108 - actualy don't put clap here cant hear drums so no clap
18:14 FlawlessTea: ok white ticks
18:14 Kibbleru: wait let me explain about stanzas and stuff
18:14 FlawlessTea: claps everywhere
18:14 Kibbleru: 00:08:765 -
18:14 FlawlessTea: got it
18:14 Kibbleru: this large white tick
18:14 Kibbleru: is called a stanza
18:14 FlawlessTea: mhm
18:15 Kibbleru: 1 large white tick is followed by 3 smaller ticks
18:15 Kibbleru: so lets say the large one is tick 1, then followed by 2,3,4
18:15 Kibbleru: that basically makes up a bar
18:15 Kibbleru: claps
18:15 FlawlessTea: on 2 and 4
18:15 Kibbleru: you can either put them on 2,4 or 1,3
18:15 Kibbleru: i think 2,4 works better for this song though
18:15 Kibbleru: cuz the loud drums come on 2,4
18:16 Kibbleru: like u can hear it right?
18:16 Kibbleru: 00:12:827 - here,
18:16 Kibbleru: 00:13:452 - here
18:16 FlawlessTea: possibly = v =
18:16 FlawlessTea: i might also be deaf
18:16 Kibbleru: lel
18:16 Kibbleru: so just put claps on 2/4, thats the basis of hitsounding
18:16 Kibbleru: after that
18:17 Kibbleru: use whistles to emphasize certain sounds
18:17 FlawlessTea: i have some whistles o3o
18:17 Kibbleru: 00:41:265 (1,2,3,4) - for places where they clearly emphasize drums, i'd break the 2,4 and put a clap on every one
18:18 Kibbleru: the 2,4 is juts a base
18:18 Kibbleru: put claps on anywhere else where you feel like they're emphasized
18:18 Kibbleru: and finishes i think you know how to use them
18:19 Kibbleru: u getting this so far xD?
18:19 FlawlessTea: hopefully
18:19 Kibbleru: mk
18:19 Kibbleru: and the last thing
18:19 Kibbleru: is
18:19 Kibbleru: for some sections of the music
18:19 Kibbleru: you can't hear any drums right?
18:20 FlawlessTea: i...guess?
18:20 FlawlessTea: maybe i should turn off hitsounds so i can actually hear
18:20 Kibbleru: for these parts what you can do is (well i think im the only one who does this) you can subsitute the claps with whistles
18:20 Kibbleru: actualy you can go to view>volume
18:21 Kibbleru: and you can basically adjust the hitsound volumes and stuff
18:21 FlawlessTea: whaaaaaa
18:21 FlawlessTea: sorcery
18:21 Kibbleru: lel
18:21 Kibbleru: 01:49:390 (1,2) - btw going back to rhythm here, ctrl g this and use that rhythm
18:21 Kibbleru: no the placement
18:21 Kibbleru: not*
18:22 Kibbleru: actualy the placement isnt bad lel
18:22 FlawlessTea: what is lel
18:23 Kibbleru: oh lel -> lol
18:23 FlawlessTea: oh
18:23 FlawlessTea: haha xD
18:23 Kibbleru: i started using lel cuz of fking no dap
18:23 Kibbleru: t-t
18:23 Kibbleru: he sais lel and it caught on to me
18:24 FlawlessTea: can i ask one question o:
18:24 Kibbleru: 02:21:890 (7) - stream recommended- go ahead
18:24 FlawlessTea: should i have a beat here 01:37:515
18:24 Kibbleru: ok first of all can u just copy and paste the timestamp pls
18:24 Kibbleru: lol
18:24 Kibbleru: so i can click on it
18:24 Kibbleru: litteraly just press ctrl c when ur at that place
18:24 FlawlessTea: 01:37:515 -
18:24 Kibbleru: and paste it into chat
18:24 FlawlessTea: sorry i backspaced the dash
18:24 Kibbleru: ah
18:25 Kibbleru: and yes i would put one there
18:25 FlawlessTea: hm
18:25 FlawlessTea: this messes up everything D:<
18:26 FlawlessTea: unless i stack the note with the 6
18:26 Kibbleru: well
18:26 FlawlessTea: or make the whole thing a square i suppose
18:26 Kibbleru: u can put the new note on top of 01:37:046 (4) -
18:26 Kibbleru: and stack 01:37:827 (1) - with it
18:26 Kibbleru: works too i think
18:27 FlawlessTea: oh
18:27 FlawlessTea: oooooh it's pretty
18:27 Kibbleru: also i didn't really want to comment on this but like
18:27 Kibbleru: 01:38:765 (5,6) - stuff like this
18:27 Kibbleru: flow is just meh
18:27 Kibbleru: like it'd be much better if you have it curving the other way
18:28 FlawlessTea: D:
18:28 FlawlessTea: does that apply for EVERYTHING
18:28 FlawlessTea: 01:43:140 (4,5) -
18:28 Kibbleru: yes (satan face)
18:28 Kibbleru:
http://puu.sh/7W9xz.jpg18:28 Kibbleru: suggestion for this
18:28 FlawlessTea: and my entire kiai
18:28 Kibbleru: yes (satan face)
18:28 FlawlessTea: 01:52:046 (2,1,2) -
18:28 FlawlessTea: noooooo
18:28 Kibbleru: but some u can fix really easily
18:29 Kibbleru: like for this 01:43:765 (5) - just ctrl j
18:29 Kibbleru: and move it around abit ofc
18:29 FlawlessTea: i think i saw that in someone's map
18:29 FlawlessTea: and though ooh this is cool
18:29 FlawlessTea: and then put it everywhere
18:29 Kibbleru: 01:52:046 (2,1) - this part seems okay
18:29 Kibbleru: well
18:29 Kibbleru: i mean
18:29 Kibbleru: just curve some of the sliders the other way xD
18:30 Kibbleru: i suppose you can have some
18:30 FlawlessTea: can i map just be
18:30 Kibbleru: but like
18:30 FlawlessTea: different from every other map
18:30 Kibbleru: its just a little too frequent
18:30 Kibbleru: well if u want it to be original
18:30 Kibbleru: you can have patterns but at least try to keep flow o3o
18:31 FlawlessTea: you probably shouldn't look at my Hard then
18:31 Kibbleru: lmao
18:31 Kibbleru: im not telling you to fix ALL of it
18:31 Kibbleru: keep some
18:31 Kibbleru: just i think its a bit too overused lmao
18:31 Kibbleru: so just fix the ones that seem easy to fix
18:31 FlawlessTea: i think it's cool T_____T
18:32 FlawlessTea: oh nooo my combo colors
18:32 Kibbleru: this one is fine tho 02:08:140 (1,2) -
18:32 FlawlessTea: they don't end nicely
18:32 Kibbleru: k
18:33 FlawlessTea: i tried to map so that all the major parts end with the 3rd combo color
18:33 Kibbleru: o-o
18:33 Kibbleru: why lmao xD
18:33 FlawlessTea: is that wrong
18:33 FlawlessTea: and now it's ruinnnned
18:33 Kibbleru: not really it just seems a bit pointless since ppl will hardly notice
18:34 Kibbleru: but if you REALLY want to do so
18:34 Kibbleru: click the little arrow beside the new combo button
18:34 Kibbleru: and u can select ur combo color
18:35 FlawlessTea: yeahhhh but
18:35 FlawlessTea: it all has to be dark blue, medium blue, light blue
18:35 FlawlessTea: i can't change that order
18:35 Kibbleru: still seems pointless to me lmao
18:35 FlawlessTea: Q_Q
18:35 FlawlessTea: i'm probably too OCD
18:35 Kibbleru: lol
18:36 Kibbleru: if u want some ocd 01:02:983 (4) - this blanket isnt that even
18:36 Kibbleru: move the middle point up a bit
18:36 FlawlessTea: but then
18:37 FlawlessTea: they won't all be the same slider D:
18:37 Kibbleru: oh
18:37 Kibbleru: nvm then
18:37 Kibbleru: its fine then
18:37 FlawlessTea: oh noeesss
18:38 Kibbleru: 00:11:890 (3) - i suggest a slight curve
http://puu.sh/7Wafn.jpg18:38 *Kibbleru is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/364936 nano feat. MY FIRST STORY - SAVIOR OF SONG [Hard]]
18:38 Kibbleru: btw
18:38 Kibbleru: this is hard
18:38 FlawlessTea: 02:21:890 (7) - do i make this entire slider into a stream o:
18:38 FlawlessTea: oh
18:39 FlawlessTea: i don't even know why i have 0.75 sv
18:39 Kibbleru: and ur choice actualy i recommend
18:40 Kibbleru: 00:26:265 (1) - i'd rearrange some stuff so u can get this slider at 268|212
18:40 Kibbleru: just so u can continue
18:40 Kibbleru: that little triangle pattern thingy
18:41 FlawlessTea: what triangle pattern
18:41 Kibbleru: 00:23:765 (1,2,1) - the shuriken thing idk
18:41 Kibbleru: to make it look like a 3 sided shuriken thing
18:42 FlawlessTea: uh
18:42 Kibbleru: 00:32:202 (2) - this maybe? look at how nice it looks :U
http://puu.sh/7WavX.jpg18:42 FlawlessTea: uuuuuuuuuuuu
18:42 FlawlessTea: so pretty
18:43 FlawlessTea: i don't know how i feel about this slider 00:44:077 (4) -
18:43 Kibbleru: 01:02:515 (3,4,5) - maybe u can curve these a bit more
18:44 Kibbleru: 00:43:765 (3,4,5) - yah i was gunna say something a bout this
18:44 Kibbleru: i have a suggestion
18:44 FlawlessTea: i originally had 4 going the other way
18:44 FlawlessTea: but someone said the flow was bad
18:44 FlawlessTea: :C
18:45 Kibbleru: this maybe
http://puu.sh/7WaHK.jpg18:45 FlawlessTea: but the 4 was facing down obviously
18:45 FlawlessTea: yeah that's what i had before
18:45 Kibbleru: oh
18:45 Kibbleru: well i don't see whats the problem with that
18:45 FlawlessTea: except 3 was straight i think
18:45 Kibbleru: if you have good patterns you can ignore flow slightly
18:45 Kibbleru: yah ic
18:46 Kibbleru: that seems fine imo Oo
18:46 Kibbleru: what youve had b4 i mean
18:46 FlawlessTea: o3o ok
18:47 FlawlessTea: also 01:02:515 (3,4,5) -
18:47 FlawlessTea: i was using the 01:01:108 (3) - slider i think
18:47 Kibbleru: oh a thing about stacks, im not saying it applies to any of ur things but only stack things when you hear a slight pause or moment of quietness in music
18:47 Kibbleru: i think u can use this slider instead 01:04:390 (1) - :O
18:48 FlawlessTea: are they... the same
18:48 Kibbleru: they arent o3o
18:48 Kibbleru: bleh don't worry about it too much
18:48 Kibbleru: that just me being nazi
18:49 Kibbleru: 01:16:265 (3) - but for this slider
18:49 Kibbleru: well idunno this looks better i think?
http://puu.sh/7WaYm.jpg18:50 FlawlessTea: why are your patterns soooo pretty
18:50 Kibbleru: they're not lmao i think ur patterns look better
18:50 FlawlessTea: teach me senpai pls
18:50 Kibbleru: i think its just the thing that everybody else's thing slook better lol
18:51 Kibbleru: bleh gunna be bold here and just gunna say this map would probably be ranked if the rhythm was better lel
18:52 FlawlessTea: yeahh... it was even worse before though
18:52 FlawlessTea: tells me how good of a rhythm person i am
18:52 Kibbleru: do u want an honest answer owo?
18:52 FlawlessTea: yesyes
18:52 FlawlessTea: should i remap everythinggggggg
18:53 Kibbleru: uh no
18:53 Kibbleru: but
18:53 Kibbleru: rhythm is
18:53 Kibbleru: probably
18:53 Kibbleru: 5/10 lel
18:53 Kibbleru: 10 being like rankable
18:53 Kibbleru: 0/10 being like wtf r u doing
18:53 FlawlessTea: well at least it's not less than 5
18:53 FlawlessTea:
18:53 Kibbleru: lol 50 and go
18:54 Kibbleru: 01:15:327 (5,1) - spacing here is inconsistent
18:54 FlawlessTea: how do you see that
18:54 Kibbleru: its ok the only reason i have any idea with rhythm is cuz zero taught me alot
18:54 Kibbleru: how do i see that... with eyes lol?
18:54 Kibbleru: it just looks closer than the rest/
18:54 Kibbleru: ?
18:55 FlawlessTea: too much sorcery
18:55 FlawlessTea: oh i just realized this part
18:55 FlawlessTea: 01:29:077 -
18:56 FlawlessTea: should i ... remap
18:56 FlawlessTea: this section
18:56 Kibbleru: 01:29:077 (1,2) - u can actualy stack these
18:56 Kibbleru: um
18:56 Kibbleru: no what i want u to do
18:56 Kibbleru: is go through your ENTIRE
18:56 Kibbleru: mapset
18:56 Kibbleru: look for places with bad rhythm
18:56 Kibbleru: and meanwhile hitsounding them
18:56 Kibbleru: if ur not sure about the rhythm juts ask me
18:57 FlawlessTea: should i do that...right now? o3o
18:57 Kibbleru: if u want
18:57 Kibbleru: let me give another example
18:57 Kibbleru: 01:46:108 - so at this section
18:57 Kibbleru: there's an interesting little
18:57 Kibbleru: idk wha the insturment is
18:57 Kibbleru: 01:46:108 - but like you should probably map this with a slider head
18:58 Kibbleru: rhythm > patterns
18:58 Kibbleru: 01:49:858 - and yah stuff like this should be mapped with slider head
18:58 Kibbleru: ::warning:: this is gunna be lots of work lol
18:59 Kibbleru: imma post this log on website now btw