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Let's try this again.
Topic Starter
Cygnus
Thanks. Hope this gets ranked soon so I can make a full Leave on this society.
yeahyeahyeahhh
whoever deleted my post, I hate you
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Let's get this back on track.

General

  1. Since some people may be confused as to which game this first appeared in, you may want to add "Beatmania IIDX" 15 to the tags.
  2. You have a TaikoBG in your folder, but it isn't used on the Taiko difficulty.
Rust

  1. 00:07:197 - I feel as if you should add a note here due to the fact that it's present in the music. It feels somewhat bland without it.
  2. 00:08:577 - Same as above.
  3. 00:26:852 (3) - You should make this slider into one that blankets the previous slider. It would look much neater.
  4. 01:01:335 (1) - A whistle should be at the beginning and end of this slider.
  5. 01:02:714 (2) - ^
  6. 01:19:611 (1) - A clap should be on this in order to follow what you were doing at 01:16:852 (2,3,1,2).
  7. 01:20:990 (1) - This one too.
  8. 01:30:301 (1) - A clap on the end of this one to follow your 2 4 clap pattern.
  9. 01:32:628 (1) - This spinner should really start 1 1/4th tick earlier.
Bronze

  1. 00:15:818 (1) - You may want to tilt this slider a bit to go along with the previous angled slider. Like this.
Emdyion's Silver

  1. 00:03:059 (4) - This should be one grid to the right to from a symmetrical pattern.
  2. 01:26:508 (1,2) - What's with the sudden whistles on these sliders? They don't fit with the previous hitsounds.
  3. 01:30:990 (1) - The clap should be removed from this slider. It doesn't really sound right to me.
Chrome

  1. 01:09:611 (1) - Rather than a spinner, I believe this section of the song would be better if you mapped it out.
Gold

  1. 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - Somewhere in this long series of streams, you really need to give the player a break. This isn't the hardest difficulty.
Platinum

  1. 00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
  2. 00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =[
  3. 00:32:714 (5) - A clap should be here.
Good luck!
Topic Starter
Cygnus

Jacob wrote:

Let's get this back on track.

General

  1. Since some people may be confused as to which game this first appeared in, you may want to add "Beatmania IIDX" 15 to the tags.
    Oh okay. ^^ Added Beatmania IIDX only because 15 would be a useless tag.
  2. You have a TaikoBG in your folder, but it isn't used on the Taiko difficulty.
    Oh lol. fixed
Rust

  1. 00:07:197 - I feel as if you should add a note here due to the fact that it's present in the music. It feels somewhat bland without it.
    sure
  2. 00:08:577 - Same as above.
    sure
  3. 00:26:852 (3) - You should make this slider into one that blankets the previous slider. It would look much neater.
    I tried. But it made me redo the whole map because of the spacing problem. Would love to follow this, but I hope you'll understand if i say no.
  4. 01:01:335 (1) - A whistle should be at the beginning and end of this slider.
    sure
  5. 01:02:714 (2) - ^
    sure
  6. 01:19:611 (1) - A clap should be on this in order to follow what you were doing at 01:16:852 (2,3,1,2).
    k
  7. 01:20:990 (1) - This one too.
    k
  8. 01:30:301 (1) - A clap on the end of this one to follow your 2 4 clap pattern.
    k
  9. 01:32:628 (1) - This spinner should really start 1 1/4th tick earlier.
    No change. This one was suggested by Derekku, so I guess I shall stick to his choice. Hope you understand. :O
Bronze

  1. 00:15:818 (1) - You may want to tilt this slider a bit to go along with the previous angled slider. Like this.
    I don't really see any errors here. so I'm afraid I'm going to say no. Hope you understand.
Chrome

  1. 01:09:611 (1) - Rather than a spinner, I believe this section of the song would be better if you mapped it out.
    Replace this one with slider stream. ^^
Gold

  1. 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - Somewhere in this long series of streams, you really need to give the player a break. This isn't the hardest difficulty.
    This ain't the hardest, but it's an 'Insane Diff'. On the other hand, I guess a 1/2 break for every 5 notes is just enough for this difficulty.
Platinum

  1. 00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
    i hope this would be the final suggestion i'll receive for this one. I change this one and moved all (2) as near as I can.
  2. 00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =[
    same as above.
  3. 00:32:714 (5) - A clap should be here.
Good luck!
Now this is what I call a good mod. Thank you so much for rechecking ^^
Emdyion

Jacob wrote:

Let's get this back on track.
Emdyion's Silver

  1. 00:03:059 (4) - This should be one grid to the right to from a symmetrical pattern. I checked with CTRL+H, and it already seems symmetrical to 1
  2. 01:26:508 (1,2) - What's with the sudden whistles on these sliders? They don't fit with the previous hitsounds. Fixed.
  3. 01:30:990 (1) - The clap should be removed from this slider. It doesn't really sound right to me.
Fixed.


Good luck!
JappyBabes

Jacob wrote:

Platinum

00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =
To be honest, I never saw a problem with those notes. They've always been easily readable and FCable. >_>
GigaClon
In terms of tags, You should add DJ Troopers as that is the name of IIDX 15
Aleks719
We fixed:
  1. inconsistency in source
  2. stats in Gold
  3. some spacing in Platinum

leeeeeeeeeeeeet's try again. Bubbled.
Topic Starter
Cygnus
yes, finally <3 Thank you Aleks! :DD
quiz-chan_DELETED
one more bubbleeee, come ooon.
BeatofIke
^
Derekku

Quiz-chan wrote:

one more bubbleeee, come ooon.
It's not going for Approval, so it only needs one bubble and then a heart. :p
jossieP
^
Yuukari-Banteki
IRC mod

Edit: tentatively rebubbled
Topic Starter
Cygnus
fixed. fixed. fixed. fixed.
BeatofIke
So many disagreements ~_~ Map is good already!
Topic Starter
Cygnus
Life is full of disagreements. It's your choice, do or don't. -___________________________-
Makar
With choices and decisions come consequences~
Just continue focusing on making the map more fun instead of making the map more challenging and it will lead to a rank.
The whole point of modding is to improve a map; even if a map follows the rules that doesn't mean the quality is good enough for ranking (not necessarily the case here, but I'm just saying this because it was your main excuse for why it shouldn't have been unranked).

I was never here *runs*
quiz-chan_DELETED

Derekku wrote:

Quiz-chan wrote:

one more bubbleeee, come ooon.
It's not going for Approval, so it only needs one bubble and then a heart. :p
Two bubbles equal one heart.
Ephemeral
nothing could possibly justify how one is to fill an entire difficulty with a majority of pointless 1/4 streams and unfounded jumps. this is not difficulty - this is pure, unabated laziness. to rank this map in this state would be an affront to all the other hardworking mappers which place obvious effort into making their maps both fun and suitably difficult without resorting to such ridiculous methods.

you would be better off completely removing Platinum difficulty, to be perfectly honest. a two-page modpost would be barely scratching the sheer quantity of problems with this map. you have effectively made a TAG difficulty, and they are not allowed anymore.

until platinum is appropriately addressed (ergo, is either deleted or significantly changed to actually reflect the music it is mapped to), this map is not suitable for ranking. all the other difficulties are well-measured and beautifully mapped, why sully the set with one ridiculous difficulty?
Topic Starter
Cygnus
Let this map die then.

  1. To all BATs/MATs: Thank you for modding [Platinum], and after all your opinions and suggestions, the map has been unbubbled/unranked/nuked/unnuked. You we're all a big help, thanks to Ephemeral.

  2. To the rest modders: Thank you too, you hardwork paid off.

  3. To all people waiting for a rank: I'm very sorry but this is the end.

To the whole of osu!: Farewell and Have a nice day.
yeahyeahyeahhh
Damn, that's a lot of stars wasted rofl.
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
farewell then

well I wasted more stars on my map I don't care ?_?
Topic Starter
Cygnus
for the sake of all the people waiting for the map to be ranked, You've convinced me enough to remove Platinum Diff. :( But this is just disappointing.
JappyBabes
That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
dkun

JappyBabes wrote:

That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.

On a side note, great set now.
Ephemeral

JappyBabes wrote:

That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
it's not even difficult?

literally anyone with any proper streaming practice could ss that map in a few goes
JappyBabes

dkun wrote:

JappyBabes wrote:

That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.

On a side note, great set now.
Oh because you know whether I've been looking at this thread from the start.

Ephemeral wrote:

it's not even difficult?

literally anyone with any proper streaming practice could ss that map in a few goes
Forgive me for possibly misinterpreting what you said, that this map is essentially a TAG difficulty which would be difficult for a single person to FC which in this case is not.
Ephemeral
it is a very poorly made TAG difficulty, or at least that is the only justification i could see for making it.

regardless, the difficulty was removed from the set by the mapper, so i am restoring the bubble.
dkun

JappyBabes wrote:

dkun wrote:

That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.

On a side note, great set now.
Oh because you know whether I've been looking at this thread from the start.
"can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things"

Also... If you put it like that, then you have no idea what a proper map is.

~just saying~
Topic Starter
Cygnus
Please stop saying Platinum is a TAG Diff. That is just pretty insulting.
JappyBabes

dkun wrote:

you have no idea what a proper map is
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#General What.
Topic Starter
Cygnus

JappyBabes wrote:

dkun wrote:

you have no idea what a proper map is
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#General What.
i'm pretty sure Platinum passed all the criteria.
dkun

Ephemeral wrote:

nothing could possibly justify how one is to fill an entire difficulty with a majority of pointless 1/4 streams and unfounded jumps. this is not difficulty - this is pure, unabated laziness. to rank this map in this state would be an affront to all the other hardworking mappers which place obvious effort into making their maps both fun and suitably difficult without resorting to such ridiculous methods.

you would be better off completely removing Platinum difficulty, to be perfectly honest. a two-page modpost would be barely scratching the sheer quantity of problems with this map. you have effectively made a TAG difficulty, and they are not allowed anymore.

until platinum is appropriately addressed (ergo, is either deleted or significantly changed to actually reflect the music it is mapped to), this map is not suitable for ranking. all the other difficulties are well-measured and beautifully mapped, why sully the set with one ridiculous difficulty?
did I miss something or did this post never exist?
JappyBabes
Pointless and unjustified 1/4 streams? The whole song is just a piano with fast notes. Not much you can do there. Also, I find the map both enjoyable and difficult. Also, nice job on just completing deflecting my point that the difficulty is rankable.
xsrsbsns
As someone who hates Platinum with all his heart

I don't know exactly why are you guys preventing him from ranking it, sure it might not be that creative but it technically 'follows' the music (accurate down to the 1/4s, LOL) AND is a rankable difficulty (lmao about this being TAG4)

Heck I didn't even agree with the unrank. The map isn't even yours, that's how he mapped it

There are people enjoy boring streams all over the map (not me and many others, obviously)

tl;dr: Platinum is rankable, just rank it and let ratings do the talking
rickyboi
>Platinum diff removed

Welp. That's only diff I'm going to play....

Ephemeral
standards have fallen to absolutely abysmal levels in recent months, or so it seems, if such things are even considered close to acceptable

you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly. in platinum's case, more than half of the jumps that i saw had only loose correlation with the song (there were some very well placed ones though) and practically everything decent in the map was completely overwhelmed by the unrelenting 1/4 streams.

and then outside of platinum, you have this well-adjusted and finely constructed mapset. 15.6mil score in 87s speaks volumes.
JappyBabes

Ephemeral wrote:

you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly
So it comes down to whether a BAT/Admin likes it or not even though they probably won't play it. I love this ranking system.
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