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TAKA respect for J.S.B - Ubertreffen

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Cygnus
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Cygnus
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 15 July 2012 at 20:48:47

Artist: TAKA respect for J.S.B
Title: Ubertreffen
Source: pop'n music 14 FEVER!
Tags: Johann Sebastian Bach Beatmania IIDX wmfchris Emdyion dj troopers
BPM: 174
Filesize: 2666kb
Play Time: 01:32
Difficulties Available:
  1. Bronze (4.42 stars, 152 notes)
  2. Chrome (5 stars, 366 notes)
  3. Emdyion's Silver (4.98 stars, 270 notes)
  4. Gold (5 stars, 533 notes)
  5. Rust (2.51 stars, 95 notes)
  6. Wmf's Taiko (4.89 stars, 868 notes)
Download: TAKA respect for J.S.B - Ubertreffen
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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You will not regret if you tried the link above.

Please do not call this a map if you will not remember Platinum Diff.
Last edited by Cygnus , edited 90 times in total.
Cygnus
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Cygnus
Did a few tweeks. Now we're ready for mods. :) :) :) :) :) GO GO GO!
-[ ix Ishida xi ]-
Former osu!taiko Champion: #3
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-[ ix Ishida xi ]-
nice map :)
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
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Joined July 2011
[CSGA]Ar3sgice

ISHIDAMITSUNARI wrote:

nice map :) 石田快来个21*taiko秒杀这图233
my mod:

Rust

  1. fine, I think sliders are a little fast 0.0 not a big problem
Bronze

  1. 00:04:439 (2) - sounds not so good
  2. 00:55:128 (4) - http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot434-0.jpg ?
Silver

  1. generally: this is a Hard diff, so it shouldn't have so many streams/triplets, you should reduce some of them as 1/4-repeat sliders or whatever.
  2. for example: 00:04:783 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - it's too hard for a hard diff.
  3. 00:04:266 (4) - move here: http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot432.jpg
  4. 00:37:887 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 2x repeat arrow sliders stream?
  5. 00:48:059 (2) - http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot433.jpg here? hard to follow this jump for me
  6. 01:06:249 (7,8) - change to a slider here? it's not so readable as 3/4, easy to mistake it for a jump 1/2.
  7. 01:07:628 (7,8) - ^ this is also too hard imo.
Gold

  1. 00:22:714 (1) - I think it's better to jump here, (2)'s position is pretty good.
  2. Maybe make 00:22:714 (1,2,3,4,5) a pentagon/star? http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot435.jpg
  3. 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why large spacing in jumps T_T
  4. 01:14:697 (6) - remove this note? doesn't feel good
  5. this stream at the end..
Platinum

  1. 00:04:783 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - why close spacing? his doesn't fit the entire map
  2. 00:11:594 (16,1) - remove claps here
  3. 00:22:714 (1,2) - 1.5x, 1.5x, 1.75x, 1.75x sv? fits music more, imo.
  4. 00:25:473 (1,2) - ^
  5. 00:28:318 (2,3,4,5) - spacing?
  6. 00:48:490 (12) - move up 1 grid?
  7. 00:49:869 (12) - down ^
  8. 01:27:111 (12) - left / up 1 grid?
  9. 01:28:749 (15,16,1) - the shape here looks not so good
nice stream, what a pity cookiezi is afk .__. star, good luck on ranking this!~
Cygnus
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Cygnus

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

ISHIDAMITSUNARI wrote:

nice map :) 石田快来个21*taiko秒杀这图233
my mod:

Rust

  1. fine, I think sliders are a little fast 0.0 not a big problem
indeed XD

Bronze

  1. 00:04:439 (2) - sounds not so good ok
  2. 00:55:128 (4) - http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot434-0.jpg ?
what's with this? :O

Silver

  1. generally: this is a Hard diff, so it shouldn't have so many streams/triplets, you should reduce some of them as 1/4-repeat sliders or whatever.
  2. for example: 00:04:783 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - it's too hard for a hard diff. ok
  3. 00:04:266 (4) - move here: http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot432.jpg no
  4. 00:37:887 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 2x repeat arrow sliders stream? no
  5. 00:48:059 (2) - http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot433.jpg here? hard to follow this jump for me no
  6. 01:06:249 (7,8) - change to a slider here? it's not so readable as 3/4, easy to mistake it for a jump 1/2. ok
  7. 01:07:628 (7,8) - ^ this is also too hard imo. ok


Gold

  1. 00:22:714 (1) - I think it's better to jump here, (2)'s position is pretty good. no
  2. Maybe make 00:22:714 (1,2,3,4,5) a pentagon/star? http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot435.jpg no
  3. 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why large spacing in jumps T_Tno
  4. 01:14:697 (6) - remove this note? doesn't feel goodno
  5. this stream at the end..yes :D
Platinum

  1. 00:04:783 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - why close spacing? his doesn't fit the entire map no
  2. 00:11:594 (16,1) - remove claps here replaced with whistle
  3. 00:22:714 (1,2) - 1.5x, 1.5x, 1.75x, 1.75x sv? fits music more, imo. no
  4. 00:25:473 (1,2) - ^no
  5. 00:28:318 (2,3,4,5) - spacing?okay
  6. 00:48:490 (12) - move up 1 grid?okay
  7. 00:49:869 (12) - down ^okay
  8. 01:27:111 (12) - left / up 1 grid?okay
  9. 01:28:749 (15,16,1) - the shape here looks not so goodokay, fixed a little
nice stream, what a pity cookiezi is afk ;_; .__. star, good luck on ranking this!~ thanks
Rue
489 posts
Joined July 2010
Rue
:O

Silver could really use a slightly higher AR. Oh right, catch that!

Edit: I also find the hitsounds pretty loud D:
Cygnus
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Topic Starter
Cygnus
If I do that, it will now be too hard for a hard diff. I'll lower the hit sounds to 60, hope its okay :O Anyway, thanks for the stars XD
Mirage
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Joined May 2011
Mirage
Epic song is epic
Kanye West
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Joined July 2011
Kanye West
star~~~~
Ulysses
1,911 posts
Joined September 2010
Ulysses
Hi !

Black = They're only suggestions.
Blue = You have better to change them.
Red = They're unrankable issue.You should change them.

[General]

I feel a bit weird about kiai time.Only has more than one kiai time but other don't.[/color]

The end time in is weird too,it's spinner end is unsnapped.

And the sound end at 01:36:163 .Spinners end at 01:36:163 in all diff ?[/color]




[Platinum]

00:33:404 (10) - Spacing larger,since your sliders spacing isn't small like that.But it's still readable.

00:36:852 (5) - A clap is missed here?Or it's intentional?

01:03:921 (15) - It's spacing is totally different,fix it.

01:05:301 (15) - ^

I suggest using identically spacing in these two streams.

01:09:611 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - AHO's new world o.0 (Nothing wrong here)

01:32:370 (1) - Del NC?




[Gold]

00:18:232 (4) - A clap is missed here?Or it's intentional?

00:22:714 (1) - Stack it better at the end of 00:22:025 (3)~New coordinate:x238,y194(NAZI)

00:28:577 (2) - I suggest put it on spacing to show it 's a 1/4 beat.like that:
SPOILER

00:29:956 (2) - ^

00:31:335 (2) - ^

01:10:646 (1) - Stack it ,the spacing is misleading.

01:32:370 (1) - Try del NC?

01:32:542 (1) - Slience it as you did in Extra.

[Silver]

Even though you rejected the AR+1 suggest,I still think I have to suggest you once again.
Reason:AR7 doesn't mean it's easier to play,the AR is toooo slow for this diff.
For example,Seeing you use AR2 in your easy diff,you can't set AR0 in this easy diff then tell someone"it's a easy!" AR rating is depended in how the mapset,BPM,melody.Therefore,try AR8,it's easier to play with,to mod with,to enjoy with.

00:01:335 (3) - Don't put huge 1/1 spacing in hard orz.

00:37:025 (2,3,4,5,6) - This pentagon isn't congruent.

00:55:990 (1) - Slience this spinner as you did in [/color]

01:32:370 (1) - Del NC?

01:32:542 (1) - Slience it as you did in Extra.




[Bronze]

00:09:956 (2) - Add whistle?

00:17:887 (2) - Add clap at the end?

00:55:990 (1) - Slience this spinner as you did in [/color]

01:02:714 (3) - Add NC?

01:32:370 (1) - Del NC?

01:32:542 (1) - Slience it as you did in Extra.

This diff needs more works.Seems a bit confuse for a Normal.



[Rust]

01:22:370 (2) - NC?

01:32:542 (1) -

01:32:370 (1) - Del NC?

01:32:542 (1) - Slience it as you did in Extra.






Get more works in your easy,normal diffs
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those
From .:Let those mod those maps:.

[General]
Delete .osb files and full submit if you aren't using a storyboard or the same storyboard across all difficulties.
If you would like, you can delete all your bookmarks to decrease the size of your .osz file by a little since you won't be needing them by the time this gets put on the server.
If it was up to me, Kiai time would be 01:10:990 to 01:22:025, with a flash at 00:22:714, 00:25:473, and 00:39:266
Also, I feel all notes before 00:00:646 can be deleted.

[Platinum]
00:22:714 (1) - A 75% increase in slider velocity, are you kidding?
00:36:852 (5) - You forgot a Clap here.
00:42:283 (4) - I'd remove this, and maybe (5) as well. You'll have to reposition (5) or (6) onwards though.
01:05:301 (15) - Hits HP Bar.
01:15:473 (1) - Too high; too much of it is hidden. Apply this to this entire sequence as well.
01:17:025 (1) - 01:17:714 (1) - 01:18:404 (1) - 01:19:094 (1) - 01:19:783 (1) - 01:20:473 (1) - 01:21:163 (1) - It's really not good that these appear to be random. I know it's meant to be difficult, but it doesn't make any sense at all. You've also got this happening twice in Gold. I really suggest a remap.
01:24:611 (3) - This final stream can definitely be dressed up a bit better. For example, with how 01:27:370 (15,16,1) - is headed, (2,3,4,5,6) look like they don't know where they're going.
01:32:542 (1) - Should end at 01:36:163. Apply to all diffs: Rust, Bronze, and Silver are too short, and Gold is too long.

[Gold]
00:15:473 (5) - Missing Clap here, not sure if intentional.
00:18:232 (4) - And here.
00:55:990 (1) - This spinner should be consistent with Platinum, and all diffs. Either remove them all, or add Spinner to Platinum, unless you have some sort of justification.
01:05:990 (1) - Mentioned in Platinum.

[Silver]
00:02:025 (1) - Hits HP Bar.
00:16:508 - there should be a note here and not a note at 00:17:025 (6) - to match previous pattern.

[Bronze]
Try CS3. This is still considered a Normal diff, and seeing how much more difficult Silver is, you need to show the difficulty difference the best you can. This may or may not cause a problem to circles located like 00:39:439 (2) - .

[Rust]
00:24:094 (3) - Might look better if (2) fit more into the corner of that slider, like how you have with 00:26:163 (2,3) - .
00:47:542 (1) - I feel this should end at 00:48:577 and 00:49:611 (2) - should start at 00:48:921; that's how I read the symphonic background, anyway.

Good luck :3
L_P
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Joined July 2011
L_P
Plat
00:22:284 (4) - touch hp bar
01:00:818 (1) - stack with note 2 would be more comfortable to me, and also, can apply a bigger spacing between note 2 and next combo1

01:03:921 (15) - touch hp
01:05:301 (15) - touch hp

Gold
00:48:577 (1,2,3) - noticed you use rhythm pattern, could try replacing some of those three notes into repeating sliders
01:10:646 (1) - why 0.5 slider speed.. i expect faster slider though imo
01:12:714 (2,3,4) - these 3 can make some pattern?
01:32:542 (1) - do it like platinum or make platinum like this...
(also for the other diffs... make them the same?)

silver
seriously.. fix the shape 00:37:025 (2,3,4,5,6) -
01:30:473 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ^

bronze
although not a problem but personally think slider velocity 1.2 or 1.1 can make prettier sliders
00:17:887 (2) - last head clap

star and run
whymeman
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whymeman
Okay, I don't know what the hell is going on, but it needs to stop. This is a forum to MOD MAPS, not some dramatic talk show about beating the crap out of each other. I do not care who started it at this point. Either start making actual mod posts, or stop posting here. Any posts shown to be negatively nonconstructive after this warning post will have action taken.

@ Philippines: Stop disrespecting people and crap, seriously.

@ Everyone else: Enough of the fighting now. If there's more problems from this point, just don't bother modding the map. But, keep the pointless drama out.
Cygnus
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Topic Starter
Cygnus
I'm glad everything's cleaned up. A respect for a respect. Fine. Thanks whymeman!

Now to go with this map..
Stefan
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Stefan
What an Ubertreffen..
Leorda
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Leorda
Hi there

[Rust]
* AR +1?

00:05:473 (2) - I feel this slider is doesn't symetric (Nazi)
01:16:508 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - You overusing a new combo for this. This should avoided


[Bronze]
00:26:163 (2) - This object is touch the HP Bar (just a warning)


[Silver]
00:02:025 (1) - This object is touch the HP Bar (just a warning)
01:11:163 (2,3) - Overlapped by hitbursts from spinner. It might be hidden for players some cases


[Gold]
00:39:266 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think stream after 0,5x slider is kinda bad gameplay, I guess.....

Orz
wmfchris
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wmfchris
what was happening :?

Download: TAKA respect for J.S.B - Ubertreffen (Philippines) [Wmf's Taiko].osu
Emdyion
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Joined October 2009
Emdyion
Decided to make another Silver.

Of course, like last time, this is only part of what I have, I'll finish the map later~ (if you want if, of course)

Download: TAKA respect for J.S.B - Ubertreffen (Philippines) [Emdyion's Silver].osu
Cygnus
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Cygnus

Emdyion wrote:

Decided to make another Silver.

Of course, like last time, this is only part of what I have, I'll finish the map later~ (if you want if, of course)
Finish it first before I add it to the song so I can get mods. Nice map :D




@wmfchris. Nothing. D: btw, thanks XD
Emdyion
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Joined October 2009
Emdyion
Finished.

Self-Opinions:

01:16:508 to 01:22:025: Spam Kiai Time every 2nd and 4th beats?
-01:19:266 -> : might need to remap

01:28:921 -> : might need to remap this as well

Enjoy!

Download: TAKA respect for J.S.B - Ubertreffen (Philippines) [Emdyion's Silver].osu
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