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Been waiting too long..
I think that my difficulty seems a bit too hard.
I was thinking of editing some parts a bit more..
I was thinking of editing some parts a bit more..
Topic Starter
Nah. I think it's okay now.
[Rust]
-beginning of the map has a lot of dead space, a bit boring
-the different notes and combos don't seem to form a coherent whole; usually this is formed by musical phrases, symmetry, and patterns
00:12:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a coherent pattern
00:15:818 (1,2,3) - this is not
00:41:680 (3,1) - this is a coherent link between combos
00:43:404 (2,1) - this is not
if you have any more questions for how to move your notes around so that they are more coherent, ask me
I also think you have an opportunity to make some of the longer sliders really pretty shapes, but that is up to you
01:24:783 (1) - maybe move farther away?
[Bronze]
00:00:646 (1,1) - if you are going to overlap two sliders, try to make them symmetrical and/or overlapping in the center of each
00:05:473 (2,1) - overlap is messy
00:42:370 (2) - line this up with 1
00:43:059 (3) - and this up with 2
01:22:714 (2,3) - again, 3 should have some relation to 2 (linear, same x-axis, same y-axis, etc)
01:26:852 (2,3) - ^, etc
[wmf]
looks good. for a second i thought there were no kats and then i realized youre just incredibly good at them.
[Emdyon]
00:06:163 (1) - clap spam starts here and does not sound good
00:10:128 (4) - clap spam ends
00:25:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice
00:29:094 (2) - this gap feels like a hiccup
00:31:852 (2) - ^
00:35:646 (2,3) - a bit wtf
00:41:680 (8) - fit this around the end of 7
01:26:508 (1,2) - random whistles
[Chrome]
00:08:921 (1,2) - having one beat on every white and red tick and nowhere else is getting repetitive around here. Try to vary it up a bit more either with hitsounds or other rhythms
00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy and hard to read, why not a square instead?
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - ^
00:49:956 (4) - this tiny slider feels kind of lost on the end here
01:16:508 (1,2,1,2) - this pattern here is quite well-done, good job
[Gold]
00:19:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - im not quite sure what part of the music this goes to
00:29:611 (1,2) - this is kind of wonky
01:00:818 (1) - again, not sure what part of the music this goes to. maybe if you made it quieter?
01:08:404 (2,3,4) - these jumps are not ok unless you want to storyboard in something that indicates to the player that they are jumps, not sightreadable
01:22:370 (2) - messy overlap, maybe curve it the other direction
01:24:783 (1,2,3,4,5....) - ok one stream of doom per map is plenty per map and you already did one. Are you trying to make a map that is challenging yet exhilarating or one that wears out the player and leaves them with bloody nubs where their fingers used to be? I might also mention that at this point its likely that you are giving them muscle cramps, which can cause the muscles to spasm involuntarily, which can make the player lose their combo through no fault of their own. Very bad, very sad players
[Platinum]
I would like to start by reminding you of the lecture at the end of my comments on Gold
00:18:404 (14) - no way to sightread this jump
00:19:783 (14) - ^
00:21:163 (14) - ^
00:21:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy, why do they need to overlap? cant you put the second pair somewhere else? If you want it to be hard you could always put it in the opposite corner or something.
00:24:180 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - as bfore
00:28:749 (6,7,8,9) - put a new combo to mark the jumps
00:30:128 (6) - ^
00:31:508 (6) - ^
oh the other reason for new combo, this will kill lots of people so the comboburst bonus hp will help frustrated players pass it
00:34:266 (6) - again
00:35:646 (6) - ^
tbh there are a bunch of places where you use very short sliders that would be better off as just hitcircles instead of sliders. It adds more focus to the EPIC parts and allows the players to rest their broken fingers
00:51:508 (14) - illegal jump
00:52:887 (14) - ^
00:54:266 (14) - ^
01:00:818 (1) - not sure what part of the music this goes to
01:02:370 (13,4,5,6) - messy overlap. Also the jump at 1 is ish :\
01:08:232 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is very very good. you need more of this kind of thing in your map.
01:12:197 (15,16,1,2....,3,4) - messy
01:15:301 (3,4,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ^
01:17:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you could do for this part kind of like what you did for Chrome where the combos all point towards the clap note, that'd be a lot better
01:21:852 (7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - i feel like the combos should start on the 7, 3, etc rather than the sliders
01:30:214 (16,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
01:30:990 (1) - how does this go to the music?
Talk to me if you have any questions.
-beginning of the map has a lot of dead space, a bit boring
-the different notes and combos don't seem to form a coherent whole; usually this is formed by musical phrases, symmetry, and patterns
00:12:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a coherent pattern
00:15:818 (1,2,3) - this is not
00:41:680 (3,1) - this is a coherent link between combos
00:43:404 (2,1) - this is not
if you have any more questions for how to move your notes around so that they are more coherent, ask me
I also think you have an opportunity to make some of the longer sliders really pretty shapes, but that is up to you
01:24:783 (1) - maybe move farther away?
[Bronze]
00:00:646 (1,1) - if you are going to overlap two sliders, try to make them symmetrical and/or overlapping in the center of each
00:05:473 (2,1) - overlap is messy
00:42:370 (2) - line this up with 1
00:43:059 (3) - and this up with 2
01:22:714 (2,3) - again, 3 should have some relation to 2 (linear, same x-axis, same y-axis, etc)
01:26:852 (2,3) - ^, etc
[wmf]
looks good. for a second i thought there were no kats and then i realized youre just incredibly good at them.
[Emdyon]
00:06:163 (1) - clap spam starts here and does not sound good
00:10:128 (4) - clap spam ends
00:25:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice
00:29:094 (2) - this gap feels like a hiccup
00:31:852 (2) - ^
00:35:646 (2,3) - a bit wtf
00:41:680 (8) - fit this around the end of 7
01:26:508 (1,2) - random whistles
[Chrome]
00:08:921 (1,2) - having one beat on every white and red tick and nowhere else is getting repetitive around here. Try to vary it up a bit more either with hitsounds or other rhythms
00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy and hard to read, why not a square instead?
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - ^
00:49:956 (4) - this tiny slider feels kind of lost on the end here
01:16:508 (1,2,1,2) - this pattern here is quite well-done, good job
[Gold]
00:19:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - im not quite sure what part of the music this goes to
00:29:611 (1,2) - this is kind of wonky
01:00:818 (1) - again, not sure what part of the music this goes to. maybe if you made it quieter?
01:08:404 (2,3,4) - these jumps are not ok unless you want to storyboard in something that indicates to the player that they are jumps, not sightreadable
01:22:370 (2) - messy overlap, maybe curve it the other direction
01:24:783 (1,2,3,4,5....) - ok one stream of doom per map is plenty per map and you already did one. Are you trying to make a map that is challenging yet exhilarating or one that wears out the player and leaves them with bloody nubs where their fingers used to be? I might also mention that at this point its likely that you are giving them muscle cramps, which can cause the muscles to spasm involuntarily, which can make the player lose their combo through no fault of their own. Very bad, very sad players
[Platinum]
I would like to start by reminding you of the lecture at the end of my comments on Gold
00:18:404 (14) - no way to sightread this jump
00:19:783 (14) - ^
00:21:163 (14) - ^
00:21:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy, why do they need to overlap? cant you put the second pair somewhere else? If you want it to be hard you could always put it in the opposite corner or something.
00:24:180 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - as bfore
00:28:749 (6,7,8,9) - put a new combo to mark the jumps
00:30:128 (6) - ^
00:31:508 (6) - ^
oh the other reason for new combo, this will kill lots of people so the comboburst bonus hp will help frustrated players pass it
00:34:266 (6) - again
00:35:646 (6) - ^
tbh there are a bunch of places where you use very short sliders that would be better off as just hitcircles instead of sliders. It adds more focus to the EPIC parts and allows the players to rest their broken fingers
00:51:508 (14) - illegal jump
00:52:887 (14) - ^
00:54:266 (14) - ^
01:00:818 (1) - not sure what part of the music this goes to
01:02:370 (13,4,5,6) - messy overlap. Also the jump at 1 is ish :\
01:08:232 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is very very good. you need more of this kind of thing in your map.
01:12:197 (15,16,1,2....,3,4) - messy
01:15:301 (3,4,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ^
01:17:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you could do for this part kind of like what you did for Chrome where the combos all point towards the clap note, that'd be a lot better
01:21:852 (7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - i feel like the combos should start on the 7, 3, etc rather than the sliders
01:30:214 (16,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
01:30:990 (1) - how does this go to the music?
Talk to me if you have any questions.
I'll also give a star. Good luck XDSaturos-fangirl wrote:
[Emdyon] It's spelled Emdyion, but okay..
00:06:163 (1) - clap spam starts here and does not sound good Switched to whistles for some parts
00:10:128 (4) - clap spam ends Fixed.
00:25:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice XD
00:29:094 (2) - this gap feels like a hiccup Fixed whole section
00:31:852 (2) - ^ ^
00:35:646 (2,3) - a bit wtfonly put one instead of two
00:41:680 (8) - fit this around the end of 7 I tried my best to do so
01:26:508 (1,2) - random whistles Those whistles match the violins in the bgm, not changing
...where did the "attach" button go? 0_0
EDIT: HERE --> http://puu.sh/yBuG
The attach feature was removed from the forum. Simply use puush or [code] tags to enclose your code now.Emdyion wrote:
...where did the "attach" button go? 0_0
Can you fix the thread title please?
Topic Starter
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
[Rust]
-beginning of the map has a lot of dead space, a bit boring
How come? Would like to know why. D:
-the different notes and combos don't seem to form a coherent whole; usually this is formed by musical phrases, symmetry, and patterns
I believe it would be a bit more boring if i made all the patterns coherent. But I guess we're just not in the same point.
00:12:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a coherent pattern
00:15:818 (1,2,3) - this is not
00:41:680 (3,1) - this is a coherent link between combos
00:43:404 (2,1) - this is not
if you have any more questions for how to move your notes around so that they are more coherent, ask me
Okay. I really don't understand what you're trying to say above. Do you mean like making the pattern consistent? But wouldn't that be a little more boring if the rhythm keeps repeating over and over? :O
I also think you have an opportunity to make some of the longer sliders really pretty shapes, but that is up to you
Believe me, I do too. But moving even a few grids might make a big tragedy in spacing. D:
01:24:783 (1) - maybe move farther away?
Away from what?
[Bronze]
00:00:646 (1,1) - if you are going to overlap two sliders, try to make them symmetrical and/or overlapping in the center of each
Is that really necessary? I believe the overlaps are just fine and smooth.
00:05:473 (2,1) - overlap is messy
Same thing I stated above.
00:42:370 (2) - line this up with 1
Fixed. But I believe this is unnecessary. lol
00:43:059 (3) - and this up with 2
Same as above.
01:22:714 (2,3) - again, 3 should have some relation to 2 (linear, same x-axis, same y-axis, etc)
Seriously? I don't see any requirement on this. No change.
01:26:852 (2,3) - ^, etc
Same as above.
[wmf]
looks good. for a second i thought there were no kats and then i realized youre just incredibly good at them.
Great. (:
[Chrome]
00:08:921 (1,2) - having one beat on every white and red tick and nowhere else is getting repetitive around here. Try to vary it up a bit more either with hitsounds or other rhythms
I'm trying to follow the rhythm here, and I don't see anything wrong here. No change, sorry.
00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy and hard to read, why not a square instead?
Hard to read? It's great. Also, I'm trying to avoid super COMMON patterns on my map, trying to bring up new kind of note structures for the society. No change here, sorry.
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - ^
Same as above.
00:49:956 (4) - this tiny slider feels kind of lost on the end here
So what do you want me to do here?
01:16:508 (1,2,1,2) - this pattern here is quite well-done, good job
Thanks! (:
[Gold]
00:19:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - im not quite sure what part of the music this goes to
It's following the piano in the background.
00:29:611 (1,2) - this is kind of wonky
I'm trying to make a good hit sound for the music on this one.
01:00:818 (1) - again, not sure what part of the music this goes to. maybe if you made it quieter?
If you'll try to remove the slider, you will hear a little 1/8 on this part. But sure, I silenced this one a bit.
01:08:404 (2,3,4) - these jumps are not ok unless you want to storyboard in something that indicates to the player that they are jumps, not sightreadable
I've asked a few people about this part, and they said it was sight readable because they were actually expecting a hard part when the kiai time enters the scene.
01:22:370 (2) - messy overlap, maybe curve it the other direction
Fixed a little.
01:24:783 (1,2,3,4,5....) - ok one stream of doom per map is plenty per map and you already did one. Are you trying to make a map that is challenging yet exhilarating or one that wears out the player and leaves them with bloody nubs where their fingers used to be? I might also mention that at this point its likely that you are giving them muscle cramps, which can cause the muscles to spasm involuntarily, which can make the player lose their combo through no fault of their own. Very bad, very sad players
Come on, there is a repeat slider that gives the players a bit of time to rest. I am not an Insane Player but I definitely can hit all these notes. If you want a play from me, just ask me.
[Platinum]
I would like to start by reminding you of the lecture at the end of my comments on Gold
00:18:404 (14) - no way to sightread this jump
I guarantee that these notes are 100% sight readable.
00:19:783 (14) - ^
Same as above.
00:21:163 (14) - ^
Same as above.
00:21:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
I would like to know why.
00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy, why do they need to overlap? cant you put the second pair somewhere else? If you want it to be hard you could always put it in the opposite corner or something.
They look good when they overlap, but that's just me. Also, this is also the part in Chrome that you told me. So, no change.
00:24:180 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
Same as above.
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - as bfore
Same as above too.
00:28:749 (6,7,8,9) - put a new combo to mark the jumps
Well, okay.
00:30:128 (6) - ^
00:31:508 (6) - ^
oh the other reason for new combo, this will kill lots of people so the comboburst bonus hp will help frustrated players pass it
00:34:266 (6) - again
00:35:646 (6) - ^
Followed all of the new combo suggestions above.
tbh there are a bunch of places where you use very short sliders that would be better off as just hitcircles instead of sliders. It adds more focus to the EPIC parts and allows the players to rest their broken fingers
00:51:508 (14) - illegal jump
This is not an illegal jump.
00:52:887 (14) - ^
Same.
00:54:266 (14) - ^
Same.
01:00:818 (1) - not sure what part of the music this goes to
Silenced this part like you suggested in Gold.
01:02:370 (13,4,5,6) - messy overlap. Also the jump at 1 is ish :\
This one is fine for me, no change.
01:08:232 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is very very good. you need more of this kind of thing in your map.
Thanks. But I will only use this on this part.
01:12:197 (15,16,1,2....,3,4) - messy
Not messy, really.
01:15:301 (3,4,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ^
Same as above.
01:17:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you could do for this part kind of like what you did for Chrome where the combos all point towards the clap note, that'd be a lot better
If I tried doing it in the center, there won't be enough space for a high jump. I'm trying to keep the amount of high jump because this is an Extra Difficulty.
01:21:852 (7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - i feel like the combos should start on the 7, 3, etc rather than the sliders
I don't think so. Because the new rhythm came on 01:22:025.
01:30:214 (16,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
This is fine for me.
01:30:990 (1) - how does this go to the music?
Listen closely to the music, there is a 1/8 part.
Talk to me if you have any questions.
Fixing thread title also means adding the artist back, btw =3=
Topic Starter
I am so lazy right now. And besides, it's not really that necessary.
I am deeply saddened by your disrespect and immaturity regarding my mod of your map. You have some interesting concepts that could have gone very well and your middling difficulties were quite nice, I really wish that you had been willing to cooperate with me on fixing up your unrankable highest and lowest difficulties. Regretfully, you insist on wasting my time and throwing my good intentions back at my face.
Topic Starter
Thank you.
Ultimately what you think is meaningless, cause multiple BATs have said the same thing. You are never going to get anything ranked like this cause the BATs won't even look at your maps cause they know you are going to ignore it. If BATs say something is unrankable, it is. Res Ipsa Loquitar.
Topic Starter
Don't say anything stupid if you don't how what happened.
Did you guys read the mod? It's not even necessary *cough*.
Did you guys read the mod? It's not even necessary *cough*.
GigaClon wrote:
Ultimately what you think is meaningless, cause multiple BATs have said the same thing. You are never going to get anything ranked like this cause the BATs won't even look at your maps cause they know you are going to ignore it. If BATs say something is unrankable, it is. Res Ipsa Loquitar.
With this kind of attitude towards other people, I seriously doubt your ability to have friends, or even get other maps ranked.Philippines wrote:
Don't say anything stupid if you don't how what happened.
If the mapper fails to consent to changing things around, especially from members of staff, then a nuke is warranted, or the map dies. Your choice in the situation.
Scientia potentia est, GigaClon.
Topic Starter
Shut up dkun, go and flirt with some faggots around
Apparantly someone doesn't want to face the truth dkun just showed up.
Whatever, let's see how long it needs until this is the first unranked map being unranked for longer than a half year.
Yey.
Whatever, let's see how long it needs until this is the first unranked map being unranked for longer than a half year.
Yey.
To be quite honest, you only helped dkun's statement on your attitude just by saying that...Philippines wrote:
Shut up dkun, go and flirt with some faggots around
That's about all I wanted to say.
Seph
locked to prevent flaming
if you want to discuss bringing this map back around (And really, bring up a discussion, not a complaint), feel free to contact any of the many bats that have "harassed" you about helping your map.
The mapper has stepped beyond normal bounds; be it distinctly unrankable or no, there is a degree of leeway handed down to the BATs as a whole in the interpretation of the rules given to us - in layman's terms, we can make our own rules on the fly specifically as a counter to people trying to edge past the rules. As such, not only has Philippines disrespected the rules of mapping, he has disrespected everyone and everything around him, including his own map. As his behavior has not changed despite warnings and attempts for reasoned discussions, an impasse has been reached, and as such, I am nuking this map. It is not permanent, but a deterrent for flaming and continued public disrespect of everyone by everyone. It will return when Philippines gets his act back together and everyone else quits being childish.
if you want to discuss bringing this map back around (And really, bring up a discussion, not a complaint), feel free to contact any of the many bats that have "harassed" you about helping your map.
The mapper has stepped beyond normal bounds; be it distinctly unrankable or no, there is a degree of leeway handed down to the BATs as a whole in the interpretation of the rules given to us - in layman's terms, we can make our own rules on the fly specifically as a counter to people trying to edge past the rules. As such, not only has Philippines disrespected the rules of mapping, he has disrespected everyone and everything around him, including his own map. As his behavior has not changed despite warnings and attempts for reasoned discussions, an impasse has been reached, and as such, I am nuking this map. It is not permanent, but a deterrent for flaming and continued public disrespect of everyone by everyone. It will return when Philippines gets his act back together and everyone else quits being childish.
Hello. Philippines has showed interest in continuing this map and enough time has passed to warrant giving this another try.
Everyone, please maintain a respectful and helpful attitude. Setting this back to the "unranked" icon.
Everyone, please maintain a respectful and helpful attitude. Setting this back to the "unranked" icon.
Topic Starter
Thank you SapphireGhost.
It's good to see that you've had a change of attitude. I shall mod this again soon. Good luck and best wishes!
Let's try this again.
Topic Starter
Thanks. Hope this gets ranked soon so I can make a full Leave on this society.
whoever deleted my post, I hate you
Let's get this back on track.
General
General
- Since some people may be confused as to which game this first appeared in, you may want to add "Beatmania IIDX" 15 to the tags.
- You have a TaikoBG in your folder, but it isn't used on the Taiko difficulty.
- 00:07:197 - I feel as if you should add a note here due to the fact that it's present in the music. It feels somewhat bland without it.
- 00:08:577 - Same as above.
- 00:26:852 (3) - You should make this slider into one that blankets the previous slider. It would look much neater.
- 01:01:335 (1) - A whistle should be at the beginning and end of this slider.
- 01:02:714 (2) - ^
- 01:19:611 (1) - A clap should be on this in order to follow what you were doing at 01:16:852 (2,3,1,2).
- 01:20:990 (1) - This one too.
- 01:30:301 (1) - A clap on the end of this one to follow your 2 4 clap pattern.
- 01:32:628 (1) - This spinner should really start 1 1/4th tick earlier.
- 00:15:818 (1) - You may want to tilt this slider a bit to go along with the previous angled slider. Like this.
- 00:03:059 (4) - This should be one grid to the right to from a symmetrical pattern.
- 01:26:508 (1,2) - What's with the sudden whistles on these sliders? They don't fit with the previous hitsounds.
- 01:30:990 (1) - The clap should be removed from this slider. It doesn't really sound right to me.
- 01:09:611 (1) - Rather than a spinner, I believe this section of the song would be better if you mapped it out.
- 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - Somewhere in this long series of streams, you really need to give the player a break. This isn't the hardest difficulty.
- 00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
- 00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =[
- 00:32:714 (5) - A clap should be here.
Topic Starter
Jacob wrote:
Let's get this back on track.
GeneralRust
- Since some people may be confused as to which game this first appeared in, you may want to add "Beatmania IIDX" 15 to the tags.
Oh okay. ^^ Added Beatmania IIDX only because 15 would be a useless tag.- You have a TaikoBG in your folder, but it isn't used on the Taiko difficulty.
Oh lol. fixedBronze
- 00:07:197 - I feel as if you should add a note here due to the fact that it's present in the music. It feels somewhat bland without it.
sure- 00:08:577 - Same as above.
sure- 00:26:852 (3) - You should make this slider into one that blankets the previous slider. It would look much neater.
I tried. But it made me redo the whole map because of the spacing problem. Would love to follow this, but I hope you'll understand if i say no.- 01:01:335 (1) - A whistle should be at the beginning and end of this slider.
sure- 01:02:714 (2) - ^
sure- 01:19:611 (1) - A clap should be on this in order to follow what you were doing at 01:16:852 (2,3,1,2).
k- 01:20:990 (1) - This one too.
k- 01:30:301 (1) - A clap on the end of this one to follow your 2 4 clap pattern.
k- 01:32:628 (1) - This spinner should really start 1 1/4th tick earlier.
No change. This one was suggested by Derekku, so I guess I shall stick to his choice. Hope you understand. :OChrome
- 00:15:818 (1) - You may want to tilt this slider a bit to go along with the previous angled slider. Like this.
I don't really see any errors here. so I'm afraid I'm going to say no. Hope you understand.Gold
- 01:09:611 (1) - Rather than a spinner, I believe this section of the song would be better if you mapped it out.
Replace this one with slider stream. ^^Platinum
- 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - Somewhere in this long series of streams, you really need to give the player a break. This isn't the hardest difficulty.
This ain't the hardest, but it's an 'Insane Diff'. On the other hand, I guess a 1/2 break for every 5 notes is just enough for this difficulty.Good luck!
- 00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
i hope this would be the final suggestion i'll receive for this one. I change this one and moved all (2) as near as I can.- 00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =[
same as above.- 00:32:714 (5) - A clap should be here.
Now this is what I call a good mod. Thank you so much for rechecking ^^
Jacob wrote:
Let's get this back on track.
Emdyion's SilverFixed.
- 00:03:059 (4) - This should be one grid to the right to from a symmetrical pattern. I checked with CTRL+H, and it already seems symmetrical to 1
- 01:26:508 (1,2) - What's with the sudden whistles on these sliders? They don't fit with the previous hitsounds. Fixed.
- 01:30:990 (1) - The clap should be removed from this slider. It doesn't really sound right to me.
Good luck!
To be honest, I never saw a problem with those notes. They've always been easily readable and FCable. >_>Jacob wrote:
Platinum
00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =
In terms of tags, You should add DJ Troopers as that is the name of IIDX 15
We fixed:
leeeeeeeeeeeeet's try again. Bubbled.
- inconsistency in source
- stats in Gold
- some spacing in Platinum
leeeeeeeeeeeeet's try again. Bubbled.
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yes, finally <3 Thank you Aleks! 
D
DIt's not going for Approval, so it only needs one bubble and then a heart. :pQuiz-chan wrote:
one more bubbleeee, come ooon.
^
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fixed. fixed. fixed. fixed.
So many disagreements ~_~ Map is good already!
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Life is full of disagreements. It's your choice, do or don't. -___________________________-
With choices and decisions come consequences~
Just continue focusing on making the map more fun instead of making the map more challenging and it will lead to a rank.
The whole point of modding is to improve a map; even if a map follows the rules that doesn't mean the quality is good enough for ranking (not necessarily the case here, but I'm just saying this because it was your main excuse for why it shouldn't have been unranked).
I was never here *runs*
Just continue focusing on making the map more fun instead of making the map more challenging and it will lead to a rank.
The whole point of modding is to improve a map; even if a map follows the rules that doesn't mean the quality is good enough for ranking (not necessarily the case here, but I'm just saying this because it was your main excuse for why it shouldn't have been unranked).
I was never here *runs*
quiz-chan_DELETED
nothing could possibly justify how one is to fill an entire difficulty with a majority of pointless 1/4 streams and unfounded jumps. this is not difficulty - this is pure, unabated laziness. to rank this map in this state would be an affront to all the other hardworking mappers which place obvious effort into making their maps both fun and suitably difficult without resorting to such ridiculous methods.
you would be better off completely removing Platinum difficulty, to be perfectly honest. a two-page modpost would be barely scratching the sheer quantity of problems with this map. you have effectively made a TAG difficulty, and they are not allowed anymore.
until platinum is appropriately addressed (ergo, is either deleted or significantly changed to actually reflect the music it is mapped to), this map is not suitable for ranking. all the other difficulties are well-measured and beautifully mapped, why sully the set with one ridiculous difficulty?
you would be better off completely removing Platinum difficulty, to be perfectly honest. a two-page modpost would be barely scratching the sheer quantity of problems with this map. you have effectively made a TAG difficulty, and they are not allowed anymore.
until platinum is appropriately addressed (ergo, is either deleted or significantly changed to actually reflect the music it is mapped to), this map is not suitable for ranking. all the other difficulties are well-measured and beautifully mapped, why sully the set with one ridiculous difficulty?
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Let this map die then.
To the whole of osu!: Farewell and Have a nice day.
- To all BATs/MATs: Thank you for modding [Platinum], and after all your opinions and suggestions, the map has been unbubbled/unranked/nuked/unnuked. You we're all a big help, thanks to Ephemeral.
- To the rest modders: Thank you too, you hardwork paid off.
- To all people waiting for a rank: I'm very sorry but this is the end.
To the whole of osu!: Farewell and Have a nice day.
Damn, that's a lot of stars wasted rofl.
farewell then
well I wasted more stars on my map I don't care ?_?
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for the sake of all the people waiting for the map to be ranked, You've convinced me enough to remove Platinum Diff. 
But this is just disappointing.
But this is just disappointing.That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.JappyBabes wrote:
That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
On a side note, great set now.
it's not even difficult?JappyBabes wrote:
That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
literally anyone with any proper streaming practice could ss that map in a few goes
Oh because you know whether I've been looking at this thread from the start.dkun wrote:
That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.JappyBabes wrote:
That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.
On a side note, great set now.
Forgive me for possibly misinterpreting what you said, that this map is essentially a TAG difficulty which would be difficult for a single person to FC which in this case is not.Ephemeral wrote:
it's not even difficult?
literally anyone with any proper streaming practice could ss that map in a few goes
it is a very poorly made TAG difficulty, or at least that is the only justification i could see for making it.
regardless, the difficulty was removed from the set by the mapper, so i am restoring the bubble.
regardless, the difficulty was removed from the set by the mapper, so i am restoring the bubble.
"can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things"JappyBabes wrote:
Oh because you know whether I've been looking at this thread from the start.dkun wrote:
That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.
On a side note, great set now.
Also... If you put it like that, then you have no idea what a proper map is.
~just saying~
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Please stop saying Platinum is a TAG Diff. That is just pretty insulting.
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#General What.dkun wrote:
you have no idea what a proper map is
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i'm pretty sure Platinum passed all the criteria.JappyBabes wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#General What.dkun wrote:
you have no idea what a proper map is
did I miss something or did this post never exist?Ephemeral wrote:
nothing could possibly justify how one is to fill an entire difficulty with a majority of pointless 1/4 streams and unfounded jumps. this is not difficulty - this is pure, unabated laziness. to rank this map in this state would be an affront to all the other hardworking mappers which place obvious effort into making their maps both fun and suitably difficult without resorting to such ridiculous methods.
you would be better off completely removing Platinum difficulty, to be perfectly honest. a two-page modpost would be barely scratching the sheer quantity of problems with this map. you have effectively made a TAG difficulty, and they are not allowed anymore.
until platinum is appropriately addressed (ergo, is either deleted or significantly changed to actually reflect the music it is mapped to), this map is not suitable for ranking. all the other difficulties are well-measured and beautifully mapped, why sully the set with one ridiculous difficulty?
Pointless and unjustified 1/4 streams? The whole song is just a piano with fast notes. Not much you can do there. Also, I find the map both enjoyable and difficult. Also, nice job on just completing deflecting my point that the difficulty is rankable.
As someone who hates Platinum with all his heart
I don't know exactly why are you guys preventing him from ranking it, sure it might not be that creative but it technically 'follows' the music (accurate down to the 1/4s, LOL) AND is a rankable difficulty (lmao about this being TAG4)
Heck I didn't even agree with the unrank. The map isn't even yours, that's how he mapped it
There are people enjoy boring streams all over the map (not me and many others, obviously)
tl;dr: Platinum is rankable, just rank it and let ratings do the talking
I don't know exactly why are you guys preventing him from ranking it, sure it might not be that creative but it technically 'follows' the music (accurate down to the 1/4s, LOL) AND is a rankable difficulty (lmao about this being TAG4)
Heck I didn't even agree with the unrank. The map isn't even yours, that's how he mapped it
There are people enjoy boring streams all over the map (not me and many others, obviously)
tl;dr: Platinum is rankable, just rank it and let ratings do the talking
>Platinum diff removed
Welp. That's only diff I'm going to play....
Welp. That's only diff I'm going to play....
standards have fallen to absolutely abysmal levels in recent months, or so it seems, if such things are even considered close to acceptable
you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly. in platinum's case, more than half of the jumps that i saw had only loose correlation with the song (there were some very well placed ones though) and practically everything decent in the map was completely overwhelmed by the unrelenting 1/4 streams.
and then outside of platinum, you have this well-adjusted and finely constructed mapset. 15.6mil score in 87s speaks volumes.
you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly. in platinum's case, more than half of the jumps that i saw had only loose correlation with the song (there were some very well placed ones though) and practically everything decent in the map was completely overwhelmed by the unrelenting 1/4 streams.
and then outside of platinum, you have this well-adjusted and finely constructed mapset. 15.6mil score in 87s speaks volumes.
So it comes down to whether a BAT/Admin likes it or not even though they probably won't play it. I love this ranking system.Ephemeral wrote:
you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly
The BAT/Admin is there for a reason. It's called moderation for a reason. It's why the system is in place for a reason.JappyBabes wrote:
So it comes down to whether a BAT/Admin likes it or not even though they probably won't play it. I love this ranking system.Ephemeral wrote:
you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly
If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?
It's completely rankable and some people like it. It follows the music. There is no moderation here, just "I don't like this map". The mapper also has a right to deny mods if they don't assist in what he wanted the map to be. A BAT shouldn't have full say over a map.dkun wrote:
If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?
Also, I didn't know ppy had an alternate account.dkun wrote:
If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?
GJ!dkun wrote:
If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?
霸气外露
We don't mod to rank "rankable" maps. We mod to rank maps that can hardly get better.JappyBabes wrote:
rankable
In a mapper's perspective, and this is soley mine, please don't get me wrong on this; Platinum was mapped very lazily, and could have been an amazing diff, if the mapper just didn't have his pride in the wrong places.JappyBabes wrote:
It's completely rankable and some people like it. It follows the music. There is no moderation here, just "I don't like this map". The mapper also has a right to deny mods if they don't assist in what he wanted the map to be. A BAT shouldn't have full say over a map.dkun wrote:
If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?
In terms of the ranking process; the BAT always has the final say, as it's their job to uphold the mapping "norm", per-say. There's a set quality on maps, rather than if it's just "rankable" or not, and I guess it's my fault for expecting someone who hasn't modded to know this from the start. My apologies.
If the map tickles your pickle, fine. I can't change that fact from you. But the only difference is that said difficulty isn't on BSS. Which is what modders/mappers/moderators uphold the quality of, side by side, as you can see here. As a modder/mapper in this community, there's an obligation that we can take to withstand the ranking standard, and to gradually increase it, not decrease it. I hope you understand this.
You're obviously not a mapper and if you are you must be a terrible one if you think all there is in this song is 1/4 streams and there is not much you can do.JappyBabes wrote:
Pointless and unjustified 1/4 streams? The whole song is just a piano with fast notes. Not much you can do there. Also, I find the map both enjoyable and difficult. Also, nice job on just completing deflecting my point that the difficulty is rankable.
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Why would I map make a 7 diff map if you think I'm lazy? I think you're the one who's lazy for having 2 diff mapsets ~
I'm sorry? At least I don't put notes randomly all over the screen and call it a map.Philippines wrote:
Why would I map make a 7 diff map if you think I'm lazy? I think you're the one who's lazy for having 2 diff mapsets ~
quality > quantity
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Enough dkun, enough. You already won, Platinum is gone. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?dkun wrote:
I'm sorry? At least I don't put notes randomly all over the screen and call it a map.Philippines wrote:
Why would I map make a 7 diff map if you think I'm lazy? I think you're the one who's lazy for having 2 diff mapsets ~
quality > quantity
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7671 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/23058 You were saying?dkun wrote:
I'm sorry? At least I don't put notes randomly all over the screen and call it a map.Philippines wrote:
Why would I map make a 7 diff map if you think I'm lazy? I think you're the one who's lazy for having 2 diff mapsets ~
quality > quantity
Happy birthday ulet pare
Guys please stop flaming.
It has been a hard time for both mappers and modders, and we should pay our effort to make this ranked, not blaming each other.
It has been a hard time for both mappers and modders, and we should pay our effort to make this ranked, not blaming each other.
Enough? I wasn't even talking to you and you put this on yourself.Philippines wrote:
Enough dkun, enough. You already won, Platinum is gone. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
I feel like you didn't read a word of what I said.JappyBabes wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7671 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/23058 You were saying?
I feel like you haven't looked at either of those maps. More specifically the first one.dkun wrote:
I feel like you didn't read a word of what I said.JappyBabes wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7671 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/23058 You were saying?
Now that's just plain rude and I don't think it was needed.
ok.jpg
okay,so
thumbnails don't work in the beatmap listing for me,could anyone else confirm?
you're missing the last kiai in Gold diff,which is 01:05:473 - 01:10:990
could you use soft sampleset (as in Silver) or at least lower the volume to 40% from beginning up to the 00:11:680 in all your diffs? hitsounds are really rough there
and the last thing - as Gold is now the hardest diff - use AR9? it plays more comfortable with it imo.
thumbnails don't work in the beatmap listing for me,could anyone else confirm?
you're missing the last kiai in Gold diff,which is 01:05:473 - 01:10:990
could you use soft sampleset (as in Silver) or at least lower the volume to 40% from beginning up to the 00:11:680 in all your diffs? hitsounds are really rough there
and the last thing - as Gold is now the hardest diff - use AR9? it plays more comfortable with it imo.
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fixed all except the volume thing since i believe it's fine
about the thumbnail, i already talked about ephe, it will be fixed asap if it doesn't update
about the thumbnail, i already talked about ephe, it will be fixed asap if it doesn't update
neither for me
okay few things to point out here
platinum diff wasn't either fun or original, it was just streams. There's many ways to make a very challenging difficulty with this song without filling it with streams. It's rankable; but is it worth the rank? If I map something where I just repeat one pattern over and over just copypasting, flipping horizontally, vertically, rotating and whatnot, technically, it's rankable. Is it fun? Hell no. To the map's benefit, I thought the sped-up sliders, as much controversy as they caused, were, in essence, a nice idea. They just needed to be used better.
More about the Platinum difficulty; it's simply unreasonable. 85% of the map was streams, hands down. When I play a map, I don't expect it to just hand the SS to me, but I don't expect to get stuck on it for hours on end because there are too many streams - yes there is such a thing - and my arm simply starts to get tired. When I play a map, I expect it to go like this: "Okay, you're going to have to master a number of various techniques to beat me or FC me." Now, I might not get it on my first try, I might not get it on my tenth try, but at no point will I judge that I've been asked to do something that is unreasonable. This difficulty was unreasonable.
Just don't rank maps because they're rankable. Rank them because they're fun. maps that are original, readable, that flow well, that follow the music, and overall provide a great rhythm experience. You don't need over-the-top difficulty to have fun and enjoy the game.
Good luck to Philippines for this map, is it is now a reasonable mapset. Let us forget about that Platinum difficulty, it's not there anymore.
platinum diff wasn't either fun or original, it was just streams. There's many ways to make a very challenging difficulty with this song without filling it with streams. It's rankable; but is it worth the rank? If I map something where I just repeat one pattern over and over just copypasting, flipping horizontally, vertically, rotating and whatnot, technically, it's rankable. Is it fun? Hell no. To the map's benefit, I thought the sped-up sliders, as much controversy as they caused, were, in essence, a nice idea. They just needed to be used better.
More about the Platinum difficulty; it's simply unreasonable. 85% of the map was streams, hands down. When I play a map, I don't expect it to just hand the SS to me, but I don't expect to get stuck on it for hours on end because there are too many streams - yes there is such a thing - and my arm simply starts to get tired. When I play a map, I expect it to go like this: "Okay, you're going to have to master a number of various techniques to beat me or FC me." Now, I might not get it on my first try, I might not get it on my tenth try, but at no point will I judge that I've been asked to do something that is unreasonable. This difficulty was unreasonable.
Just don't rank maps because they're rankable. Rank them because they're fun. maps that are original, readable, that flow well, that follow the music, and overall provide a great rhythm experience. You don't need over-the-top difficulty to have fun and enjoy the game.
Good luck to Philippines for this map, is it is now a reasonable mapset. Let us forget about that Platinum difficulty, it's not there anymore.
Topic Starter
Platinum is a Legend. No one will ever forget this diff.
well,if Eph said so
I see no more problem then,ranked
also please don't spam shit anymore,it's already 20 pages
I see no more problem then,ranked
also please don't spam shit anymore,it's already 20 pages
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YEY! Thanks IceBeam! <3
^nold_1702 wrote:
rank來的不是自己喜歡的
rank來幹什麼?
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Let's rank it while it's early!
the platinum diff is still not he original original diff
what was the original reason to unrank it anyway...? everything is extremely clear in the one i just downloaded too. /too lazy to look in thread
what was the original reason to unrank it anyway...? everything is extremely clear in the one i just downloaded too. /too lazy to look in thread
what diff?Philippines wrote:
Platinum is a Legend. No one will ever forget this diff.
.you deleted that diffthelewa wrote:
what diff?Philippines wrote:
Platinum is a Legend. No one will ever forget this diff.
I still have it in my pc :p