Makar8000 wrote:

[Rust]

1. Overall, this SV is pretty fast. This is supposed to be the easiest diff of the set. If you feel like putting in the effort to change the SV, it will help.
   It seems fine for me.
   
   
2. 00:44:783 (1,2) - The flow from (1) to (2) is really bad, it seems like you are only doing this because the notes wont fit on the screen any other way. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/328117 here is just a simple suggestion, and yes this means you have to do some adjustments to the patterns after.
   I didn't follow your suggestion but I did a new one, hoping this one is better.
   
   
3. 00:50:301 (1,2) - Same thing here that I mentioned above.
   Done
   
   
4. 01:01:335 (1,2) - I find these pretty hard to hit with good accuracy. You have two notes by themselves with a huge gap in the timing between them. Newer players will have a hard to understanding when to hit these exactly because they don't have enough experience to read by looking at the approach circles, and the timing gap is just too high for them to understand that it is one-per-measure. My suggestion is to just do a slider like 01:04:094 (3)
   Done
   
   
5. 01:16:508 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This part, is a major problem. The ends of the sliders are so much stronger than the starts of it. Then, at the end you start on the 2nd and 4th beats with circles (in otherwords, changing the timing of when the player clicks). Please, shift 01:16:508 (1,2,1,2) forward to the next white tick, and add a note at 01:16:508 like so http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/328123. This makes the next part 01:19:611 (1,2,1,2) much less awkward to play.
   Well, this was really intentional. But I fixed it. I don't know If I got it right.

[Bronze]

1. 00:09:956 (2,1) - As I mentioned in Rust, it seems like you just did this due to the amount of room you have. THe flow here is bad and would look and play much better if this was flipped liked 00:10:990 (2)
   Fixed
   
   
2. 00:19:956 (1,2,1,2) - This timing pattern is what bothered me the most about this diff before it got unranked. It's inconsistent when the patterns like 00:15:818 (1,2,1,2,1,2) and so (2) is always going to be hit early.
   Changed (2) into a reverse and moved somewhere below the two sliders between this one.
   
   
3. 00:46:163 (1,2) - Same here as mentioned above.
   Changed to kick slider.
   
   
4. 00:48:921 (1,2) - Same here as mentioned above.
   ^.
   
   
5. 01:02:714 (1,2,1,2) - Again, same as mentioned above. I really hope you adjust this. It will make the map much more readable.
   ^
   
   
6. 01:13:749 (1,2) - Same as above.
   ^

Garven wrote:

I think this difficulty could use a slight toning down since this is only slightly easier than Chrome. Maybe use more sliders instead of circles in your 1/2 runs except for the really powerful parts that you accentuate with the kiai fountains.

val0108 wrote:

omg

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Emdyon] It's spelled Emdyion, but okay..
00:06:163 (1) - clap spam starts here and does not sound good Switched to whistles for some parts
00:10:128 (4) - clap spam ends Fixed.
00:25:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice XD
00:29:094 (2) - this gap feels like a hiccup Fixed whole section
00:31:852 (2) - ^ ^
00:35:646 (2,3) - a bit wtfonly put one instead of two
00:41:680 (8) - fit this around the end of 7 I tried my best to do so
01:26:508 (1,2) - random whistles Those whistles match the violins in the bgm, not changing

Emdyion wrote:

...where did the "attach" button go? 0_0

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Rust]


-beginning of the map has a lot of dead space, a bit boring
How come? Would like to know why. D:

-the different notes and combos don't seem to form a coherent whole; usually this is formed by musical phrases, symmetry, and patterns
I believe it would be a bit more boring if i made all the patterns coherent. But I guess we're just not in the same point.

00:12:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a coherent pattern


00:15:818 (1,2,3) - this is not


00:41:680 (3,1) - this is a coherent link between combos


00:43:404 (2,1) - this is not


if you have any more questions for how to move your notes around so that they are more coherent, ask me
Okay. I really don't understand what you're trying to say above. Do you mean like making the pattern consistent? But wouldn't that be a little more boring if the rhythm keeps repeating over and over? :O

I also think you have an opportunity to make some of the longer sliders really pretty shapes, but that is up to you
Believe me, I do too. But moving even a few grids might make a big tragedy in spacing. D:

01:24:783 (1) - maybe move farther away?
Away from what?

[Bronze]


00:00:646 (1,1) - if you are going to overlap two sliders, try to make them symmetrical and/or overlapping in the center of each
Is that really necessary? I believe the overlaps are just fine and smooth.

00:05:473 (2,1) - overlap is messy
Same thing I stated above.

00:42:370 (2) - line this up with 1
Fixed. But I believe this is unnecessary. lol

00:43:059 (3) - and this up with 2
Same as above.

01:22:714 (2,3) - again, 3 should have some relation to 2 (linear, same x-axis, same y-axis, etc)
Seriously? I don't see any requirement on this. No change.

01:26:852 (2,3) - ^, etc
Same as above.


[wmf]


looks good. for a second i thought there were no kats and then i realized youre just incredibly good at them.
Great. (:

[Chrome]


00:08:921 (1,2) - having one beat on every white and red tick and nowhere else is getting repetitive around here. Try to vary it up a bit more either with hitsounds or other rhythms
I'm trying to follow the rhythm here, and I don't see anything wrong here. No change, sorry.

00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy and hard to read, why not a square instead?
Hard to read? It's great. Also, I'm trying to avoid super COMMON patterns on my map, trying to bring up new kind of note structures for the society. No change here, sorry.

00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - ^
Same as above.

00:49:956 (4) - this tiny slider feels kind of lost on the end here
So what do you want me to do here?

01:16:508 (1,2,1,2) - this pattern here is quite well-done, good job
Thanks! (:


[Gold]


00:19:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - im not quite sure what part of the music this goes to
It's following the piano in the background.

00:29:611 (1,2) - this is kind of wonky
I'm trying to make a good hit sound for the music on this one.

01:00:818 (1) - again, not sure what part of the music this goes to. maybe if you made it quieter?
If you'll try to remove the slider, you will hear a little 1/8 on this part. But sure, I silenced this one a bit.

01:08:404 (2,3,4) - these jumps are not ok unless you want to storyboard in something that indicates to the player that they are jumps, not sightreadable
I've asked a few people about this part, and they said it was sight readable because they were actually expecting a hard part when the kiai time enters the scene.

01:22:370 (2) - messy overlap, maybe curve it the other direction
Fixed a little.

01:24:783 (1,2,3,4,5....) - ok one stream of doom per map is plenty per map and you already did one. Are you trying to make a map that is challenging yet exhilarating or one that wears out the player and leaves them with bloody nubs where their fingers used to be? I might also mention that at this point its likely that you are giving them muscle cramps, which can cause the muscles to spasm involuntarily, which can make the player lose their combo through no fault of their own. Very bad, very sad players
Come on, there is a repeat slider that gives the players a bit of time to rest. I am not an Insane Player but I definitely can hit all these notes. If you want a play from me, just ask me.


[Platinum]


I would like to start by reminding you of the lecture at the end of my comments on Gold


00:18:404 (14) - no way to sightread this jump
I guarantee that these notes are 100% sight readable.

00:19:783 (14) - ^
Same as above.

00:21:163 (14) - ^
Same as above.

00:21:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
I would like to know why.

00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - messy, why do they need to overlap? cant you put the second pair somewhere else? If you want it to be hard you could always put it in the opposite corner or something.
They look good when they overlap, but that's just me. Also, this is also the part in Chrome that you told me. So, no change.

00:24:180 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
Same as above.

00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - as bfore
Same as above too.

00:28:749 (6,7,8,9) - put a new combo to mark the jumps
Well, okay.

00:30:128 (6) - ^


00:31:508 (6) - ^


oh the other reason for new combo, this will kill lots of people so the comboburst bonus hp will help frustrated players pass it


00:34:266 (6) - again


00:35:646 (6) - ^
Followed all of the new combo suggestions above.

tbh there are a bunch of places where you use very short sliders that would be better off as just hitcircles instead of sliders. It adds more focus to the EPIC parts and allows the players to rest their broken fingers


00:51:508 (14) - illegal jump
This is not an illegal jump.

00:52:887 (14) - ^
Same.

00:54:266 (14) - ^
Same.

01:00:818 (1) - not sure what part of the music this goes to
Silenced this part like you suggested in Gold.

01:02:370 (13,4,5,6) - messy overlap. Also the jump at 1 is ish :\
This one is fine for me, no change.

01:08:232 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is very very good. you need more of this kind of thing in your map.
Thanks. But I will only use this on this part.

01:12:197 (15,16,1,2....,3,4) - messy
Not messy, really.

01:15:301 (3,4,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ^
Same as above.

01:17:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you could do for this part kind of like what you did for Chrome where the combos all point towards the clap note, that'd be a lot better
If I tried doing it in the center, there won't be enough space for a high jump. I'm trying to keep the amount of high jump because this is an Extra Difficulty.

01:21:852 (7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - i feel like the combos should start on the 7, 3, etc rather than the sliders
I don't think so. Because the new rhythm came on 01:22:025.

01:30:214 (16,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - messy
This is fine for me.

01:30:990 (1) - how does this go to the music?
Listen closely to the music, there is a 1/8 part.

Talk to me if you have any questions.

GigaClon wrote:

Ultimately what you think is meaningless, cause multiple BATs have said the same thing. You are never going to get anything ranked like this cause the BATs won't even look at your maps cause they know you are going to ignore it. If BATs say something is unrankable, it is. Res Ipsa Loquitar.

Philippines wrote:

Don't say anything stupid if you don't how what happened.

Philippines wrote:

Shut up dkun, go and flirt with some faggots around

Philippines wrote:

A respect for a respect.

Philippines wrote:

Shut up dkun, go and flirt with some faggots around

1. Since some people may be confused as to which game this first appeared in, you may want to add "Beatmania IIDX" 15 to the tags.
2. You have a TaikoBG in your folder, but it isn't used on the Taiko difficulty.

1. 00:07:197 - I feel as if you should add a note here due to the fact that it's present in the music. It feels somewhat bland without it.
2. 00:08:577 - Same as above.
3. 00:26:852 (3) - You should make this slider into one that blankets the previous slider. It would look much neater.
4. 01:01:335 (1) - A whistle should be at the beginning and end of this slider.
5. 01:02:714 (2) - ^
6. 01:19:611 (1) - A clap should be on this in order to follow what you were doing at 01:16:852 (2,3,1,2).
7. 01:20:990 (1) - This one too.
8. 01:30:301 (1) - A clap on the end of this one to follow your 2 4 clap pattern.
9. 01:32:628 (1) - This spinner should really start 1 1/4th tick earlier.

1. 00:15:818 (1) - You may want to tilt this slider a bit to go along with the previous angled slider. Like this.

1. 00:03:059 (4) - This should be one grid to the right to from a symmetrical pattern.
2. 01:26:508 (1,2) - What's with the sudden whistles on these sliders? They don't fit with the previous hitsounds.
3. 01:30:990 (1) - The clap should be removed from this slider. It doesn't really sound right to me.

1. 01:09:611 (1) - Rather than a spinner, I believe this section of the song would be better if you mapped it out.

1. 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - Somewhere in this long series of streams, you really need to give the player a break. This isn't the hardest difficulty.

1. 00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
2. 00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =[
3. 00:32:714 (5) - A clap should be here.

Jacob wrote:

Let's get this back on track.

General

1. Since some people may be confused as to which game this first appeared in, you may want to add "Beatmania IIDX" 15 to the tags.
   Oh okay. ^^ Added Beatmania IIDX only because 15 would be a useless tag.
   
2. You have a TaikoBG in your folder, but it isn't used on the Taiko difficulty.
   Oh lol. fixed
   

Rust

1. 00:07:197 - I feel as if you should add a note here due to the fact that it's present in the music. It feels somewhat bland without it.
   sure
   
2. 00:08:577 - Same as above.
   sure
   
3. 00:26:852 (3) - You should make this slider into one that blankets the previous slider. It would look much neater.
   I tried. But it made me redo the whole map because of the spacing problem. Would love to follow this, but I hope you'll understand if i say no.
   
4. 01:01:335 (1) - A whistle should be at the beginning and end of this slider.
   sure
   
5. 01:02:714 (2) - ^
   sure
   
6. 01:19:611 (1) - A clap should be on this in order to follow what you were doing at 01:16:852 (2,3,1,2).
   k
   
7. 01:20:990 (1) - This one too.
   k
   
8. 01:30:301 (1) - A clap on the end of this one to follow your 2 4 clap pattern.
   k
   
9. 01:32:628 (1) - This spinner should really start 1 1/4th tick earlier.
   No change. This one was suggested by Derekku, so I guess I shall stick to his choice. Hope you understand. :O

Bronze

1. 00:15:818 (1) - You may want to tilt this slider a bit to go along with the previous angled slider. Like this.
   I don't really see any errors here. so I'm afraid I'm going to say no. Hope you understand.

Chrome

1. 01:09:611 (1) - Rather than a spinner, I believe this section of the song would be better if you mapped it out.
   Replace this one with slider stream. ^^

Gold

1. 00:47:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - Somewhere in this long series of streams, you really need to give the player a break. This isn't the hardest difficulty.
   This ain't the hardest, but it's an 'Insane Diff'. On the other hand, I guess a 1/2 break for every 5 notes is just enough for this difficulty.

Platinum

1. 00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
   i hope this would be the final suggestion i'll receive for this one. I change this one and moved all (2) as near as I can.
   
2. 00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =[
   same as above.
   
3. 00:32:714 (5) - A clap should be here.

Good luck!
Now this is what I call a good mod. Thank you so much for rechecking ^^

Jacob wrote:

Let's get this back on track.
Emdyion's Silver

1. 00:03:059 (4) - This should be one grid to the right to from a symmetrical pattern. I checked with CTRL+H, and it already seems symmetrical to 1
2. 01:26:508 (1,2) - What's with the sudden whistles on these sliders? They don't fit with the previous hitsounds. Fixed.
3. 01:30:990 (1) - The clap should be removed from this slider. It doesn't really sound right to me.

Fixed.


Good luck!

Jacob wrote:

Platinum

00:22:714 (1,2,1,2) - =[
00:25:473 (1,2,1,2) - =

1. inconsistency in source
2. stats in Gold
3. some spacing in Platinum

Quiz-chan wrote:

one more bubbleeee, come ooon.

Derekku wrote:

Quiz-chan wrote:

one more bubbleeee, come ooon.

It's not going for Approval, so it only needs one bubble and then a heart. :p

JappyBabes wrote:

That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.

JappyBabes wrote:

That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.

dkun wrote:

JappyBabes wrote:

That moment when people complain about Platinum being too hard yet people FCd the harder version within the first day of initial ranking.

That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.

On a side note, great set now.

Ephemeral wrote:

it's not even difficult?

literally anyone with any proper streaming practice could ss that map in a few goes

JappyBabes wrote:

dkun wrote:

That moment when someone walks in a thread and starts pointing fingers, yet said person has no idea with the background story, or for that fact; can't even read the thread properly and starts assuming things.

On a side note, great set now.

Oh because you know whether I've been looking at this thread from the start.

dkun wrote:

you have no idea what a proper map is

JappyBabes wrote:

dkun wrote:

you have no idea what a proper map is

http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#General What.

Ephemeral wrote:

nothing could possibly justify how one is to fill an entire difficulty with a majority of pointless 1/4 streams and unfounded jumps. this is not difficulty - this is pure, unabated laziness. to rank this map in this state would be an affront to all the other hardworking mappers which place obvious effort into making their maps both fun and suitably difficult without resorting to such ridiculous methods.

you would be better off completely removing Platinum difficulty, to be perfectly honest. a two-page modpost would be barely scratching the sheer quantity of problems with this map. you have effectively made a TAG difficulty, and they are not allowed anymore.

until platinum is appropriately addressed (ergo, is either deleted or significantly changed to actually reflect the music it is mapped to), this map is not suitable for ranking. all the other difficulties are well-measured and beautifully mapped, why sully the set with one ridiculous difficulty?

Ephemeral wrote:

you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly

JappyBabes wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

you can fill an entire beatmap with 1/4s and claim it fits with the music as and as long as it does not violate the ranking criteria, you could effectively claim it is rankable. does that mean it is a good idea to rank the map? hardly

So it comes down to whether a BAT/Admin likes it or not even though they probably won't play it. I love this ranking system.

dkun wrote:

If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?

dkun wrote:

If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?

dkun wrote:

If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?

JappyBabes wrote:

rankable

JappyBabes wrote:

dkun wrote:

If you don't like it, then simply leave. Is it that hard to comprehend?

It's completely rankable and some people like it. It follows the music. There is no moderation here, just "I don't like this map". The mapper also has a right to deny mods if they don't assist in what he wanted the map to be. A BAT shouldn't have full say over a map.

JappyBabes wrote:

Pointless and unjustified 1/4 streams? The whole song is just a piano with fast notes. Not much you can do there. Also, I find the map both enjoyable and difficult. Also, nice job on just completing deflecting my point that the difficulty is rankable.

Philippines wrote:

Why would I map make a 7 diff map if you think I'm lazy? I think you're the one who's lazy for having 2 diff mapsets ~

dkun wrote:

Philippines wrote:

Why would I map make a 7 diff map if you think I'm lazy? I think you're the one who's lazy for having 2 diff mapsets ~

I'm sorry? At least I don't put notes randomly all over the screen and call it a map.

quality > quantity

dkun wrote:

Philippines wrote:

Why would I map make a 7 diff map if you think I'm lazy? I think you're the one who's lazy for having 2 diff mapsets ~

I'm sorry? At least I don't put notes randomly all over the screen and call it a map.

quality > quantity

Philippines wrote:

Enough dkun, enough. You already won, Platinum is gone. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

JappyBabes wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7671 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/23058 You were saying?

dkun wrote:

JappyBabes wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7671 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/23058 You were saying?

I feel like you didn't read a word of what I said.