nano - Nevereverland [Osu|Taiko] · forum

zhu

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-06-02T20:12:09+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, April 27, 2018 at 10:24:45 PM

Artist: nano
Title: Nevereverland
Tags: naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
BPM: 150
Filesize: 3130kb
Play Time: 02:14
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (2.78 stars, 271 notes)
Cordi's Easy (1.87 stars, 162 notes)
Insane (5.27 stars, 425 notes)
Light Insane (4.22 stars, 324 notes)
Nifty's Inner Oni (4.53 stars, 777 notes)
Nifty's Muzukashii (3.01 stars, 500 notes)
Nifty's Oni (3.7 stars, 649 notes)
Normal (2.32 stars, 219 notes)
Starset's Redemption (6.04 stars, 516 notes)
Tochi's Extreme (5.9 stars, 557 notes)
Victor's Hard (3.33 stars, 328 notes)

Download: nano - Nevereverland
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy by Cordie
Normal by zhu
Advanced by zhu
Hard by Victorfernando
Light Insane by zhu
Insane by zhu
Extreme by -Tochi
Redemption by Starset

Muzukashii by Nifty
Oni by Nifty
Inner Oni by Nifty

MP3 edited by zhu
Hitsounded by zhu
Banner created by hypercyte

First Nomination by Wishkey
Second Nomination by Jonawaga

Last edited by zhu 2019-03-23T05:45:08+00:00, edited 333 times in total.

-Aerith-

843 posts

Joined March 2015

-Aerith- 2017-06-06T02:50:25+00:00

# Hello !!! Hitsound Mod from my Modding Queue #
As i said this is a Short Mod so... Here we go :

Insane

-01:51:339 add finish
-01:55:999 add finish
-01:54:542 add clap
-01:54:979 add clap
-01:55:707 add clap
-02:21:339 add clap
-02:21:921 add clap

Done !!! Thats all from me Good luck with your map. like the song btw

CucumberCuc

1,316 posts

Joined January 2016

CucumberCuc 2017-06-07T14:48:21+00:00

Hi

Check AiMod and kiai time
and yes, add tags

[Normal]
check Distance Snap (ctrl+shift+a)
00:13:734 (1,2) first slider shorten to red tick and do like on picture

00:18:534 (2,3) do like on picture and put circle on free white tick

00:20:134 (1,2) are close
00:22:534 (4,1,2,3,4,5,1) do like on picture

00:28:134 (2,3,4,1) do are close
00:28:134 (2,1) overlap
00:31:334 (2,3,4) do far
00:37:334 put circle on end previous slider?
00:37:734 (3) if you do previous step, do here centre slider move up or left
00:39:334 (1) end spinner not on tick and little later put Break
00:45:514 (1,1,2) it's far
00:46:387 (1) remove NC
okay, for next times: click on circle or slider and watch top-right, you see "Next" and "Prev"?If Yes - between a maximum of 7 numbers difference, so just fix anywhere for this complexity range between sliders and circles
Now Other stuffs
01:20:310 (3) do curve
02:10:271 (1,2) not good flow, start second slider move down
03:19:590 (2,2,1,3) don't overlap
03:30:075 (3,1) remove circle and put start spinner here
And Yes, listen to the song again, sliders for me are not suited to certain sounds

[Hard]
00:13:688 (1) shorten to previous red tick
00:18:888 NC?
00:20:088 (7,1) swap NC
00:22:688 (4,5,6) here overlap but 2,3,4 not overlap, fix this
00:27:488 (2) remove circle and make slider?
00:38:488 (5) slider make more open
00:40:810 put Break
00:51:586 (5) move to x:400 y:104
00:51:877 (6,7) stack with 00:53:479 (4)
01:41:392 (2,3) overlap
01:44:159 (4,5,6) ^
02:06:149 NC?
02:14:668 (1) be better if spinner start on next white tick
02:23:916 (1) move slightly right
02:35:566 (8) move left for better flow
02:56:246 (1,2,3) - 1,2 not overlap; 2,3 overlap - fix this
03:02:654 (2) not good idea put here, maybe stack with next slider?
03:12:265 NC
03:13:139 ^
03:46:343 (1,2,3) like for 02:56:246 (1,2,3)
04:06:003 NC?
04:08:188 (3,4) stack?

[Insane]
to reassign this complexity... make it almost like Everland or Hard

[Everland]
00:43:331 (3) move to x:304 y:36?
01:50:175 (1,2,1,2) fix this
02:07:655 (1,2,3) ^
02:12:311 (1,2) ^
02:13:476 (1,2,3) ^
03:00:952 (1,2) do far
03:28:330 (3,4) maybe remove this sliders and make circles?

[Neverland]
00:05:734 (1) remove slider
00:09:534 (2) remove circle
00:20:134 (4) you have sound on 00:20:734, maybe shorten?
00:32:934 (1,2) overlap
00:49:519 (8,1) do this?

00:50:028 (2) remove circle
00:52:213 (1,3) overlap
01:06:193 (5,6) end slider and circle move down
01:42:309 (6) move left
02:26:217 (8,1) i think it's far

seegii

2 posts

Joined July 2014

seegii 2017-06-07T16:15:49+00:00

Hi my first time modding so it wont be that much

[Neverland]

01:30:077 (5) Shorten the slider maybe?
02:26:945 (4) Remove circle
03:49:080 (2) Remove circle
03:51:410 (2) Remove circle
03:53:740 (2) Remove circle

[Everland]

03:49:302 (2) Make the slider come out little bit early?
Only one?

there is almost no mistakes well for me gud job ^_^

[Insane]

Umm is this EX kinda difficult? idk can you make the sliders look more bendier and cool? not straight and add streams

[Hard]

Sorry bad at spotting mistakes in slow kinda diff

[Normal]

Sorry bad at spotting mistakes in slow diff

Sorry if this was not helpful

SpectorDG

1,167 posts

Joined June 2014

SpectorDG 2017-06-07T17:42:40+00:00

BPM offset check from pm req

[All diffs]

00:40:854 00:40:872 - BPM чинь энд биш сүүлийх дээр нь өсөж байгаа.

[Everland]

00:41:147 00:40:872 - Бусад diff дээр BPM нь энд 00:40:854 өсөж байхад everland дээр ганцаараа BPM нь 00:41:147 энд өсөж байх юм.

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byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2017-06-21T19:22:24+00:00

2017-06-21 11:46 zhu: hello sir
2017-06-21 11:47 byfar: hello
2017-06-21 11:47 zhu: you are awesome
2017-06-21 11:47 zhu: sur
2017-06-21 11:47 zhu: sir*
2017-06-21 11:48 byfar: O.o ty
2017-06-21 11:48 zhu: i have one request for u
2017-06-21 11:51 byfar: ok
2017-06-21 11:53 byfar: ?
2017-06-21 11:54 zhu: i been looking through your profile
2017-06-21 11:54 zhu: and been wondering if you mod maps
2017-06-21 11:54 byfar: i dont full mod now
2017-06-21 11:54 byfar: i do testplays
2017-06-21 11:54 byfar: and offer opinions
2017-06-21 11:54 zhu: can u offer one for me XD
2017-06-21 11:55 byfar: just send
2017-06-21 11:55 zhu: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1314730 Nano - Nevereverland]
2017-06-21 11:55 zhu: onegaishimasu
2017-06-21 11:56 zhu: neverland dif please
2017-06-21 11:56 byfar: lol]
2017-06-21 11:56 byfar: you're missing ur own beatmap
2017-06-21 11:56 byfar: did u update
2017-06-21 11:56 zhu: ah
2017-06-21 11:56 zhu: wait a sec
2017-06-21 12:02 byfar: nice love the hitsounds
2017-06-21 12:02 byfar: its fun
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar: but ur rhythm needs fixing
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar:  i have several suggestions
2017-06-21 12:03 zhu: thanks
2017-06-21 12:03 zhu: i want them all
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar: 00:13:334 (6) - 
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar: ctrl g?
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: and make it hexagon ish
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: 00:19:334 (3,4) - 
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: spacing can be larger
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: maybe a ctrl+h and repositioning would be nice
2017-06-21 12:05 zhu: done
2017-06-21 12:05 byfar: your structure in general is wonky
2017-06-21 12:05 byfar: it demonstrates proficiency in several areas
2017-06-21 12:06 byfar: however when you sum up the map as a whole it doesnt piece
2017-06-21 12:06 byfar: do you wan t me to cover aesthetics or just rhythm
2017-06-21 12:06 zhu: what should i do master
2017-06-21 12:06 byfar: cuz im gonna have to talk about a lot
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: have you tried remapping things
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: i want any suggestions you are going to give me
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: it's not a bad thing at all 
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: to remake a part and make it better
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: yeah
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: even though you may hold some sentimental value towards a section
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: i remapped certain parts
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: who knows you might create something even more memorable
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: yeah i noticed
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: yeas
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: D
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: some parts are noticibly better
2017-06-21 12:08 zhu: omg thanks
2017-06-21 12:08 zhu: im so fired up
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: 00:49:609 (1) - 
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: ?
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: im sure u know whats wrong
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar:  00:58:347 - ?
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: 01:04:172 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ugly
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: 01:06:503 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - 
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: 00:50:192 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - can you map like this please
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: ty
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: try using less diagonal sliders
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: and more slightly tilted sliders
2017-06-21 12:10 zhu: okey
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: you're basically making a different slider
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: for every curve slider
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: its throwing my aesthetic radar off 
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: 01:25:435 (5,6,7) - 
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: examples
2017-06-21 12:11 byfar: 01:27:473 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - not even gonna ask what happened here
2017-06-21 12:11 byfar: 01:52:940 (5,6) - 1/2 slider for vocal emphasis is better
2017-06-21 12:11 byfar: 01:53:669 - stop using slider tails for downbeats please
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: 01:57:164 (1,2) - DIAGONAL SLIDER
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: the inconsistency in straight sliders is boggling 01:58:329 (1) - 
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: 02:04:445 (2,4) - 
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: THESE ARE TOO CLOSE
2017-06-21 12:13 zhu: oh
2017-06-21 12:13 zhu: sir
2017-06-21 12:13 zhu: i cant catch up
2017-06-21 12:13 byfar: 02:06:193 (8,9,10) - these feel like random triples 02:05:610 (3,4,5) - 
2017-06-21 12:14 byfar: 02:12:309 (1,2) - USE PERFECT COPY PASTE PLEASE
2017-06-21 12:14 byfar: use ctrl h and ctrl j please
2017-06-21 12:14 byfar: 02:28:329 - HELLO STOP USING SLIDER TAILS FOR EMPHASIS
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:44:057 - 
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:45:221 (5) - DIAGONAL SLIDER
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:48:571 (9,1) - ever thought of making these sliders have the same rotation?
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: i.e meaning when you put them side by side they align?
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:52:939 (1,2) - 1.2 spacing shit
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 1/2
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:54:396 - 
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:54:396 - 
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:54:396 - 
2017-06-21 12:17 byfar: 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 
2017-06-21 12:17 byfar: 02:56:289 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what rhythm are you even following here. this rhythm choice is as if an amalgam of the vocals, the piano and your own imagination
2017-06-21 12:18 byfar: HOLY FUCK TRIGGERED 03:05:900 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - GEOMETRIC SHAPE PLEASE
2017-06-21 12:19 byfar:  03:06:775 (1,2,3,4,1) - stop being lazy using 1/2 rhythms, put the music to 50%, and take a deep listen
2017-06-21 12:19 byfar: what the hell is going on?
2017-06-21 12:19 zhu: im doing my best sir
2017-06-21 12:20 zhu: can you post it please i cant catch up all
2017-06-21 12:20 zhu: and doesnt understand certain parts
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: 03:21:775 (8,1) - random 1/2 sliders
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: ok
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: `03:24:105 - another emphasis using slider tails
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: rule: make strong parts clickable

NewPlayer

83 posts

Joined April 2014

NewPlayer 2017-07-02T20:08:05+00:00

IRC brief mod/testplay, random PM request

IRC

2017-07-02 21:09 NewPlayer: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1346841 Nano - Nevereverland [Normal]]
2017-07-02 21:15 NewPlayer: k so
2017-07-02 21:15 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:15 zhu: how was it
2017-07-02 21:15 NewPlayer: you havent got an easy diff so there shouldnt be as many overlaps as you have
2017-07-02 21:16 zhu: if i create easy dif
2017-07-02 21:16 zhu: there can be
2017-07-02 21:16 zhu: ?
2017-07-02 21:16 NewPlayer: especially like that one 03:18:426 (1,2) -
2017-07-02 21:17 NewPlayer: idk really, at least 2 years ago people said that overlaps is highly not recommended in easy (and) normal
2017-07-02 21:17 NewPlayer: not an expert tho
2017-07-02 21:17 NewPlayer: 03:18:426 (1,2,1,2) - but suggesting remap that anyway
2017-07-02 21:18 NewPlayer: 01:55:999 (1,2,3,4) - intense moment and you undermapping it
2017-07-02 21:18 NewPlayer: 02:05:319 (1,2,3,4) - ^should be something like that
2017-07-02 21:19 NewPlayer: 02:06:484 (3,4) - also i think u can move that one tick earlier
2017-07-02 21:19 NewPlayer: and add two notes
2017-07-02 21:20 zhu: i can fix that overlap
2017-07-02 21:20 NewPlayer: http://puu.sh/wzSZq/f93f606cce.jpg something like that
2017-07-02 21:21 NewPlayer: aand also distance snap should be consistent in easy-normal diffs
2017-07-02 21:22 NewPlayer: 04:14:057 (4) - here for examle
2017-07-02 21:22 NewPlayer: prev 1.28x, next 1.42x
2017-07-02 21:23 NewPlayer: maybe there are more such mistakes so go through the diff with distance snap on
2017-07-02 21:24 zhu: i see
2017-07-02 21:25 NewPlayer: wont mention patterns since you'll probably change them in future
2017-07-02 21:25 NewPlayer: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1346839 Nano - Nevereverland [Hard]]
2017-07-02 21:30 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:32 NewPlayer: you can increase SV on kiai
2017-07-02 21:32 zhu: silder velocity?
2017-07-02 21:32 NewPlayer: yep
2017-07-02 21:32 NewPlayer: overall impression - could be harder

2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: doesnt that
2017-07-02 21:33 NewPlayer: 00:27:934 (3,4) - distance again
2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: change other parts too
2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: how to change
2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: certains part's velocity
2017-07-02 21:33 NewPlayer: use green sections
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: you used them to set 0.75x
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: and 0.5
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: so basically set kiai on 1.10/1.20 maybe
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: you'll have to fix sliders tho
2017-07-02 21:35 zhu: u mean umltiplier?
2017-07-02 21:35 zhu: sorry
2017-07-02 21:35 zhu:

2017-07-02 21:35 zhu: roger that
2017-07-02 21:36 NewPlayer: 01:05:337 (4,5) - those overlaps a bit each other and apparently not symmetrical
2017-07-02 21:36 NewPlayer: not look so neat
2017-07-02 21:37 NewPlayer: 01:40:853 (1) - here you can shorten till white tick and note on the red tick
2017-07-02 21:37 NewPlayer: and add*
2017-07-02 21:37 NewPlayer: http://puu.sh/wzTIn/dc380c77a2.jpg
2017-07-02 21:39 zhu: done
2017-07-02 21:39 NewPlayer: 01:48:717 (1) - 01:49:591 (1) - are those supposed to be 1/3?
2017-07-02 21:39 NewPlayer: or its me
2017-07-02 21:40 zhu: its not u
2017-07-02 21:40 NewPlayer: 02:08:523 (3,4) - missed beat between them
2017-07-02 21:41 NewPlayer: 03:13:182 (4,5,6) - distance could be increased
2017-07-02 21:42 NewPlayer: 03:55:415 (5,6) - dont really like this overlap
2017-07-02 21:43 NewPlayer: makes me think that its 1/2
2017-07-02 21:44 NewPlayer: 04:35:464 (7) - _may be_ hard to see, maybe its fine
2017-07-02 21:46 NewPlayer: so overall take look on a distance again (consistency in certain parts not over a map like in easy/normal), make sliders like 01:05:337 (4,5) symmetrical and neat-looking and take care of overlaps
2017-07-02 21:46 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 21:46 zhu: ill now
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: fix those kiaia
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: parts
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: could i ask you to do this later?
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: and check distance
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: ofc
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: ty
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: i ll do it later
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: lets get into other dif
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: also probably you need one more diff for this to be ranked
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: cause 3.35 --> 5.11
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: 3moe dif coming
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: more*
2017-07-02 21:48 NewPlayer: oh ok
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: easy one insane
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: one extra
2017-07-02 21:48 NewPlayer: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1346840 Nano - Nevereverland [Insane]]
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: holy shit
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: how the fuck
2017-07-02 21:53 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: didnt play for a year or si
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: so*
2017-07-02 21:53 zhu: should i lower the ar?
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: ar is fine
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: raise od
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: for 7 i think
2017-07-02 21:54 zhu: 7would be fine
2017-07-02 21:54 zhu: right
2017-07-02 21:54 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 21:54 NewPlayer: cs4 maybe
2017-07-02 21:54 NewPlayer: hp7
2017-07-02 21:55 NewPlayer: not really like modding high diffs cause i cant really mod anything there :<
2017-07-02 21:55 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:55 zhu: next dif
2017-07-02 21:55 zhu: ?
2017-07-02 21:55 NewPlayer: always think that everything's fine
2017-07-02 21:56 NewPlayer: lets next, yeah
2017-07-02 21:56 NewPlayer: nice diff, cant say more without in-depth look
2017-07-02 21:56 zhu: next one gonna be tricky
2017-07-02 21:58 NewPlayer: here
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: too close
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: to the next note
2017-07-02 21:59 zhu: whoch one
2017-07-02 21:59 zhu: which
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: will say later in editor
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: if i'll remeber
2017-07-02 21:59 zhu: okey
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: the one that i missed
2017-07-02 22:00 NewPlayer: something with rhythm here, maybe its me
2017-07-02 22:01 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 22:01 zhu: something felt strange
2017-07-02 22:01 NewPlayer: here
2017-07-02 22:01 NewPlayer: that overlap
2017-07-02 22:02 NewPlayer: unexpected
2017-07-02 22:03 NewPlayer: dat sliders
2017-07-02 22:04 NewPlayer: SV too high imo
2017-07-02 22:04 NewPlayer: w/o real reason
2017-07-02 22:04 zhu: okey
2017-07-02 22:04 NewPlayer: check later tho
2017-07-02 22:05 NewPlayer: aaaand there coming 7* part with actual 5.5* map
2017-07-02 22:05 zhu: XD
2017-07-02 22:05 NewPlayer: that was (is?) a trend in 2016-17 tho
2017-07-02 22:06 NewPlayer: wont mention last part ofc
2017-07-02 22:06 zhu: im feelings laggy
2017-07-02 22:06 zhu: let me res
2017-07-02 22:06 zhu: im feeling
2017-07-02 22:10 zhu: im back
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: im here
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: so
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: btw how do set
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: 00:52:959 (4,5) -
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: something like
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: is away
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: ./away <msg>
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: pretty helpful
2017-07-02 22:15 NewPlayer: ./help
2017-07-02 22:15 NewPlayer: even more helpful

2017-07-02 22:15 zhu: i see
2017-07-02 22:15 zhu: ACTION hug
2017-07-02 22:15 NewPlayer: 01:04:172 (1) - dont like a shape of this one
2017-07-02 22:15 zhu: XD
2017-07-02 22:16 NewPlayer: looks like it bugged cause only one anchor
2017-07-02 22:16 NewPlayer: just replace it and it'll be fine
2017-07-02 22:16 zhu: i can fix that
2017-07-02 22:16 zhu: any suggestions about hp ar etc?
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: 01:34:154 (2,3) - here 1/4
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: oh forgot about that
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: hp8/9 od8/9
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: hp8 od9 i think
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: its 7* after all
2017-07-02 22:18 zhu: its gonna become 6.5 or low
2017-07-02 22:18 zhu: after i fix some parts
2017-07-02 22:18 NewPlayer: od8 is fine anyways
2017-07-02 22:18 NewPlayer: so
2017-07-02 22:18 NewPlayer: as you want
2017-07-02 22:19 NewPlayer: 02:12:164 (8,1) - close
2017-07-02 22:20 NewPlayer: 02:26:727 (3,1) -
2017-07-02 22:20 NewPlayer: 02:38:377 (2,3) -
2017-07-02 22:21 NewPlayer: 02:52:939 (1,2) - maybe increase distance between them
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: 03:53:376 (1,2) -
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: that ones
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: keep it 0.75
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: whole section
2017-07-02 22:23 NewPlayer: 04:23:668 (1) - after that one map should be easier than on kiai, not harder
2017-07-02 22:23 NewPlayer: so thats all i think
2017-07-02 22:24 zhu: mmm
2017-07-02 22:24 zhu: thanks for the help
2017-07-02 22:24 NewPlayer: youre welcome

SpectorDG

1,167 posts

Joined June 2014

SpectorDG 2017-07-03T15:42:50+00:00

2sr unrankable Easy diff хий 1.5 юму эннээс бага

Akitoshi

2,687 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-07-04T17:07:44+00:00

General

Diffspread is kinda meh, I strongly recommend to add 1 lower insane (around 4.5*) and 1 lower Expert-tier (around 5.5 ~5.8*)

Normal

use distance snap for entire parts. I'll write some important stuff here for now
00:20:134 (1,2) - pls avoid this kind of overlap and flow in future, this plays kinda forced as normal.
00:39:334 (1) - this spinner should be ended at 00:40:872 -
00:51:357 (3,4,5) - vs. 01:04:172 (1,2,3) - yea that's why you need to use distance snap, this is inappropriate tbh
02:32:115 (3) - this object is touching the HP bar with default skin so pls move it lower

Hard

increase CS to 3.5 for fair gap with Normal and Insane?
00:15:534 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - 00:21:934 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - 00:31:534 (4,5,6,1) - 00:34:334 (3,4) - 00:35:534 (5,6,7,1) - and other calm parts: I don't agree how cramped these objects are, they looks messy with those spacings that touching with each others ;;
00:39:334 (1) - should be ended on 00:40:872 -
00:51:939 (6,7) - this pattern is inconsistent with other parts, try to stick with 1/2 rhythm or you can also nerf it into 1/1 rhythm on 00:56:600 (6,7,8) -
01:16:842 (5,6) - why they are sticking tho
01:20:847 (2) - no it's not even on the beat with the music lol
01:19:317 (4,5) - pls avoid this kind of slight overlaps
03:13:182 (4,5,6) - vs 03:22:503 (7,8,9) - why their spacing is different? try stick to 1 spacing with those similar sounds on the music
03:55:706 (6) - new combo

Insane

01:14:075 (4,5,6,1) - this plays meh tbh, try moving 01:14:367 (6) - to 175|164
01:50:174 (1) - this is overmapped as there's no piano sound in 01:50:174 - , u should start to put new object in 01:50:319 -
01:52:795 (2,3,4) - 01:54:105 (3,4) - you spammed 1/2 rhythm, now you put 1/1 slider suddenly on 01:55:270 (4) - , i dont think it will b a good idea in term on consistency.
02:08:669 (4,5) - you can also ctrl + G the rhythm for the sake of vocals
02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - spread this more to avoid those overlaps aaa
03:05:609 (1) - this is also overmapped, piano starts on 03:05:754 -

ah i'm sleepy and it's 1am here already so i'll stop here, you can take this as free mod, goodluck

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-05T04:37:00+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
General
Diffspread is kinda meh, I strongly recommend to add 1 lower insane (around 4.5*) and 1 lower Expert-tier (around 5.5 ~5.8*)
Normal
use distance snap for entire parts. I'll write some important stuff here for now
00:20:134 (1,2) - pls avoid this kind of overlap and flow in future, this plays kinda forced as normal.
00:39:334 (1) - this spinner should be ended at 00:40:872 -
00:51:357 (3,4,5) - vs. 01:04:172 (1,2,3) - yea that's why you need to use distance snap, this is inappropriate tbh
02:32:115 (3) - this object is touching the HP bar with default skin so pls move it lower
Hard
increase CS to 3.5 for fair gap with Normal and Insane?
00:15:534 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - 00:21:934 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - 00:31:534 (4,5,6,1) - 00:34:334 (3,4) - 00:35:534 (5,6,7,1) - and other calm parts: I don't agree how cramped these objects are, they looks messy with those spacings that touching with each others ;;
00:39:334 (1) - should be ended on 00:40:872 -
00:51:939 (6,7) - this pattern is inconsistent with other parts, try to stick with 1/2 rhythm or you can also nerf it into 1/1 rhythm on 00:56:600 (6,7,8) -
01:16:842 (5,6) - why they are sticking tho
01:20:847 (2) - no it's not even on the beat with the music lol
01:19:317 (4,5) - pls avoid this kind of slight overlaps
03:13:182 (4,5,6) - vs 03:22:503 (7,8,9) - why their spacing is different? try stick to 1 spacing with those similar sounds on the music
03:55:706 (6) - new combo

Insane
01:14:075 (4,5,6,1) - this plays meh tbh, try moving 01:14:367 (6) - to 175|164
01:50:174 (1) - this is overmapped as there's no piano sound in 01:50:174 - , u should start to put new object in 01:50:319 -
01:52:795 (2,3,4) - 01:54:105 (3,4) - you spammed 1/2 rhythm, now you put 1/1 slider suddenly on 01:55:270 (4) - , i dont think it will b a good idea in term on consistency.
02:08:669 (4,5) - you can also ctrl + G the rhythm for the sake of vocals
02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - spread this more to avoid those overlaps aaa
03:05:609 (1) - this is also overmapped, piano starts on 03:05:754 -
ah i'm sleepy and it's 1am here already so i'll stop here, you can take this as free mod, goodluck

Thanks for free mod! oWo

Pok0555

131 posts

Joined January 2017

Pok0555 2017-07-05T16:13:53+00:00

Wow 0_0 This is definitely ranking material right here, this is too good for a new mapper
anyway, I'm from my NM q
Tbh this map this very good, call a BN to rank it after you get 12 kudosu, cuz this is amazing, mistakes in your map are pretty seldom so I'll try my best to find them, I'll mod Cordi's easy, Normal and Hard

Cordi's Easy
New players often don't how slider works, so having a huge slider section will make them break their combo more easily, you should have at least 1 circle every 2-3 sliders here are some examples of slider that you should change into circles:
00:16:934 (1) - this
00:23:334 (1) - ^
00:28:334 (1) - ^
00:36:134 (1) - ^
00:49:027 (2) - ^
01:07:668 (3) - ^
You get the idea

Also try to avoid reverse slider if you can, most of your sliders are too small for new players to react and can often make them lose their combos, of course you could use this but try to do rarely, here are some examples you could change, but it's up to you
00:20:134 (1) - you could change this
00:29:734 (1) - ^
01:29:221 (1) - ^

You should also make your slider patterns more predictable like at 03:39:396 (1) here's an image to show you what I meant

That's all for easy

Normal
There really aren't any mapping mistakes I could spot so I'll try to improve on the a e s t h e t i c
00:13:734 (1) - Make this a bit less curvy
00:22:534 (4) - Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J this and make it more curvy
00:45:532 (1,2) - Make these slider curve a bit more
00:57:182 (1) - Make this a little less curvy
01:51:339 (1,3) - Make these sliders more curvy
01:53:669 (1,3) - Same ^
03:03:278 (1,2,3) - Make all these sliders straight
03:18:425 (1) - Remove the red point
Hm... That's it, the rest looks fine

Hard
Approach rate 8 is too fast, I recommend making it 7.5 instead
I think the circle sizes are a bit too small, you should make it bigger from around 3.5 to 4 instead
Another thing I realized that you switch rotation a lot, first you were going clock-wise then you changed to anti-clockwise then you changed again, all in a really small amount of time, you should do this seldom and only do this during Kiai time, slower sections, faster ones,...etc

I think that's all I could cover, this map was very good, I hope you get ranked!

Cordie

67 posts

Joined February 2015

Cordie 2017-07-06T04:03:03+00:00

-

Pok0555 wrote:
Cordi's Easy
New players often don't how slider works, so having a huge slider section will make them break their combo more easily, you should have at least 1 circle every 2-3 sliders here are some examples of slider that you should change into circles:
00:16:934 (1) - this Simplified this whole section, 00:15:534 (2) - 00:19:334 (3) - 00:21:934 (2) - 00:25:734 (3) - made these circles instead
00:23:334 (1) - ^
00:28:334 (1) - ^
00:36:134 (1) - ^ done
00:49:027 (2) - ^
01:07:668 (3) - ^
You get the idea

Also try to avoid reverse slider if you can, most of your sliders are too small for new players to react and can often make them lose their combos, of course you could use this but try to do rarely, here are some examples you could change, but it's up to you
00:20:134 (1) - you could change this done
00:29:734 (1) - ^
01:29:221 (1) - ^

You should also make your slider patterns more predictable like at 03:39:396 (1) here's an image to show you what I meant
done

Thank you for modding!

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-06T09:13:15+00:00

Pok0555 wrote:
Wow 0_0 This is definitely ranking material right here, this is too good for a new mapper
anyway, I'm from my NM q
Tbh this map this very good, call a BN to rank it after you get 12 kudosu, cuz this is amazing, mistakes in your map are pretty seldom so I'll try my best to find them, I'll mod Cordi's easy, Normal and Hard

Cordi's Easy
New players often don't how slider works, so having a huge slider section will make them break their combo more easily, you should have at least 1 circle every 2-3 sliders here are some examples of slider that you should change into circles:
00:16:934 (1) - this
00:23:334 (1) - ^
00:28:334 (1) - ^
00:36:134 (1) - ^
00:49:027 (2) - ^
01:07:668 (3) - ^
You get the idea

Also try to avoid reverse slider if you can, most of your sliders are too small for new players to react and can often make them lose their combos, of course you could use this but try to do rarely, here are some examples you could change, but it's up to you
00:20:134 (1) - you could change this
00:29:734 (1) - ^
01:29:221 (1) - ^

You should also make your slider patterns more predictable like at 03:39:396 (1) here's an image to show you what I meant

That's all for easy

Normal
There really aren't any mapping mistakes I could spot so I'll try to improve on the a e s t h e t i c
00:13:734 (1) - Make this a bit less curvy
00:22:534 (4) - Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J this and make it more curvy
00:45:532 (1,2) - Make these slider curve a bit more
00:57:182 (1) - Make this a little less curvy
01:51:339 (1,3) - Make these sliders more curvy
01:53:669 (1,3) - Same ^
03:03:278 (1,2,3) - Make all these sliders straight
03:18:425 (1) - Remove the red point
Hm... That's it, the rest looks fine

Hard
Approach rate 8 is too fast, I recommend making it 7.5 instead
I think the circle sizes are a bit too small, you should make it bigger from around 3.5 to 4 instead
Another thing I realized that you switch rotation a lot, first you were going clock-wise then you changed to anti-clockwise then you changed again, all in a really small amount of time, you should do this seldom and only do this during Kiai time, slower sections, faster ones,...etc

I think that's all I could cover, this map was very good, I hope you get ranked!

thanks for the mod

CucumberCuc

1,316 posts

Joined January 2016

CucumberCuc 2017-07-06T10:05:22+00:00

Hi
you wanted me to do the mod to your "neverland" complexity, well, okay

[Neverland]
I think that the sound of bells at the beginning are too loud, maybe lower it to better fit the song?
00:04:934 (3) I think this slider can be made more open so it does not overlap the slider to 00:08:534 (3)
00:55:871 (1,3) overlap
01:05:920 (6) i think this circle can move down for better flow and distance
01:22:959 (1) move down for better flow or can stack with 01:21:794 (2)
01:39:833 (3,4,5,6,7) look into how you decided to do here, 3 and 4 you have a block stronger than the next circles
01:43:329 (2,3) - 01:44:785 (3,4) do far for the some distance?
01:47:844 (1) move slightly up
01:48:863 (2) i think you can move down for better flow and to make it look more like the letter "Z"
01:52:504 (1,4,6) strange overlap
01:57:746 (3) move left for better flow
02:06:848 (3,4) fix stack
02:09:397 (4,5) i think it's far
02:27:892 (5) move slightly down and right for better overlap
02:43:766 (2) move right for distance
02:56:289 - 1,2 and 3,4 different range
for Insane and Neverland - why on 01:51:047 not have slider/circles? if at 04:00:075 is the same beginning voice and sound?

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-06T10:22:43+00:00

CucumberCuc wrote:
Hi
you wanted me to do the mod to your "neverland" complexity, well, okay

[Neverland]
I think that the sound of bells at the beginning are too loud, maybe lower it to better fit the song?
00:04:934 (3) I think this slider can be made more open so it does not overlap the slider to 00:08:534 (3)
00:55:871 (1,3) overlap
01:05:920 (6) i think this circle can move down for better flow and distance
01:22:959 (1) move down for better flow or can stack with 01:21:794 (2)
01:39:833 (3,4,5,6,7) look into how you decided to do here, 3 and 4 you have a block stronger than the next circles
01:43:329 (2,3) - 01:44:785 (3,4) do far for the some distance?
01:47:844 (1) move slightly up
01:48:863 (2) i think you can move down for better flow and to make it look more like the letter "Z"
01:52:504 (1,4,6) strange overlap
01:57:746 (3) move left for better flow
02:06:848 (3,4) fix stack
02:09:397 (4,5) i think it's far
02:27:892 (5) move slightly down and right for better overlap
02:43:766 (2) move right for distance
02:56:289 - 1,2 and 3,4 different range
for Insane and Neverland - why on 01:51:047 not have slider/circles? if at 04:00:075 is the same beginning voice and sound?

thanks for the mod!

epes2001 773

148 posts

Joined September 2014

epes2001 773 2017-07-26T10:04:43+00:00

Hello m4m here , sorry for taking way too long

One thing , the second bpm offset is a bit odd , should be 40862 instead of 40872

Cordi's Easy

. 00:16:934 (1,2) - Make a hole in between them to look nicer
. 00:34:134 (2) - The slider should be parallel to the previous slider like this

. 01:55:999 (1,2,3) - These should be either 4 circles or 2 slider to follow the song
02:05:319 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:20:755 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:05:027 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:14:347 (1,2,3) - ^ same

Normal

01:55:999 (1,2,3) - ^ same
. 02:11:144 (2) - Lower the head of the slider like this

. 02:12:309 (1) - Match the circle to the end of the previous slider like this

. 03:40:270 - Need a circle here
. 04:05:026 (1,2,3) - These doesn't seems to follow the song , maybe replace it with something else?

Hard

. 01:53:376 (6) - Lower the circle to balance out the distance with 01:52:940 (5) and 01:53:522 (7)
. 02:11:580 (6) - Move the circle to the right to balance out the distance with 02:11:144 (5) and 02:11:727 (7)
. 02:35:609 (8) - This circle is a bit far away
. 03:25:415 (1) - Blanket
. 04:00:075 - Change the slider velocity to 1x

Insane

. 01:21:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These circles doesn't really follow the song , something like this would be better

. 02:14:712 (1) - Remove the spinner and map the gap because it feels like something is cutted out of here
. 02:46:969 (3) - Remove this circle
. 02:59:202 (2,3) - These two looks weird , something like this would be better

Neverland

. 00:44:075 (8) - Push the note a bit to the left like this

. 00:44:949 (5,6,7,8,9) - These looks a bit weird , something like this would be better

Overall the map is really good and actually rankable , good luck with that!

Cordie

67 posts

Joined February 2015

Cordie 2017-07-27T13:12:49+00:00

SPOILER

epes2001 773 wrote:
Hello m4m here , sorry for taking way too long

Cordi's Easy

. 00:16:934 (1,2) - Make a hole in between them to look nicer - done
. 00:34:134 (2) - The slider should be parallel to the previous slider like this - done

. 01:55:999 (1,2,3) - These should be either 4 circles or 2 slider to follow the song - 2 sliders would be redundant here. 4 circles would boost the star rating too much. Will keep in mind
02:05:319 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:20:755 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:05:027 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:14:347 (1,2,3) - ^ same

Thanks for modding!

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-27T17:33:15+00:00

epes2001 773 wrote:
Hello m4m here , sorry for taking way too long

One thing , the second bpm offset is a bit odd , should be 40862 instead of 40872

Cordi's Easy

. 00:16:934 (1,2) - Make a hole in between them to look nicer
. 00:34:134 (2) - The slider should be parallel to the previous slider like this

. 01:55:999 (1,2,3) - These should be either 4 circles or 2 slider to follow the song
02:05:319 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:20:755 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:05:027 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:14:347 (1,2,3) - ^ same

Normal

01:55:999 (1,2,3) - ^ same
. 02:11:144 (2) - Lower the head of the slider like this

. 02:12:309 (1) - Match the circle to the end of the previous slider like this

. 03:40:270 - Need a circle here
. 04:05:026 (1,2,3) - These doesn't seems to follow the song , maybe replace it with something else?

Hard

. 01:53:376 (6) - Lower the circle to balance out the distance with 01:52:940 (5) and 01:53:522 (7)
. 02:11:580 (6) - Move the circle to the right to balance out the distance with 02:11:144 (5) and 02:11:727 (7)
. 02:35:609 (8) - This circle is a bit far away
. 03:25:415 (1) - Blanket
. 04:00:075 - Change the slider velocity to 1x

Insane

. 01:21:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These circles doesn't really follow the song , something like this would be better

. 02:14:712 (1) - Remove the spinner and map the gap because it feels like something is cutted out of here
. 02:46:969 (3) - Remove this circle
. 02:59:202 (2,3) - These two looks weird , something like this would be better

Neverland

. 00:44:075 (8) - Push the note a bit to the left like this

. 00:44:949 (5,6,7,8,9) - These looks a bit weird , something like this would be better

Overall the map is really good and actually rankable , good luck with that!

no time to reply ive made few changes based on your opinion ill mod your map in 5days

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2017-08-14T22:35:35+00:00

i started to make hard

HARD

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nevereverland.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 61260
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Victor's Hard
Source:
Tags:
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zhu 2017-08-15T03:31:04+00:00

victorfernando wrote:

i started to make hard

HARD

osu file format v14

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Alright i uploaded it seems pretty well made

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2017-08-22T20:28:48+00:00

Pls help me (do the parts i left)

Hard

osu file format v14

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Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-09-19T16:36:51+00:00

[redemption]
-00:04:134 - i rly think this cymbal should be clickable, try this maybe http://puu.sh/xDDoi/71ec5a7e7f.jpg
-00:05:334 - same with this note its clearly stronger than other piano notes should be emphasized
-00:08:934 - this reverse is overmapped nothing i can hear on that one
-00:16:134 - missing note?
-00:20:134 (4) - try this http://puu.sh/xDDvj/c5fc43e530.jpg
-00:21:934 (3,5) - just a suggestion but these should be jumps like u did on 00:12:334 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
-00:28:534 (4,5,6) - make it so its doesnt overlap and tbh 3 stacked notes is a little boring maybe move the slider somwhere else
-00:32:934 (4) - new combo for velocity change
-00:34:734 (3) - ctrl+g?
-00:58:056 (4) - convert to circles since the rythm u following isnt quite correct here the red tick should be clickable
-01:03:590 (7) - split into 2 1/2 sliders is more wise imo
-01:06:794 (3,4) - ctrl+g rythm wise
-01:12:619 (6) - ctrl+j asthetics wise
-03:57:818 - mute this slider end
-01:51:047 - u ignored vocals here, but here u didnt 04:00:076 (1) - so either ignore it or map it both for the sake of consistency

rest is fine, gl

Electoz

Beatmap Nominator

1,895 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2017-09-19T18:55:41+00:00

Did an irc mod with the mapper, top diff

chatlog

22:47 zhu: allo
00:44 Electoz: hi
00:44 Electoz: sorry didn't see the chat lol
00:45 zhu: umm
00:45 zhu: do you have any free time
00:45 Electoz: ?
00:46 zhu: if you have can you brief mod 1 dif of my map
00:46 Electoz: oh
00:47 Electoz: now I remembered you
00:47 Electoz: sure I think
00:47 Electoz: though I don't find things much from a quick look
00:47 zhu: give me a min
00:47 zhu: yo upload
00:47 zhu: my changes
00:52 zhu: aighy
00:52 zhu: done
00:52 *zhu is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1394515 Nano - Nevereverland]
00:54 Electoz: what diff
00:54 Electoz: the highest?
00:55 zhu: yeaj
00:55 zhu: yeah*
00:56 Electoz: gimme
00:56 Electoz: a few mins
00:56 zhu: okay
01:09 Electoz: mm
01:09 Electoz: 02:23:960 (1,2,3) - could use a lower volume or something
01:09 Electoz: since the intensity changes already
01:10 Electoz: 02:05:319 (1,2,3) - 02:06:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't see any reason to make these differently
01:10 Electoz: considering you did 03:20:755 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this kind of thing in the same way, in other placeas
01:10 Electoz: *places
01:11 Electoz: sometimes you didn't seem to care random overlaps much
01:11 Electoz: but at some point they made the map looks unpolished/untidy
01:11 Electoz: or whatever
01:11 Electoz: like
01:11 Electoz: 00:13:334 (6,1) - 
01:11 Electoz: 01:56:581 (5,5) - 
01:11 Electoz: etc
01:12 Electoz: like, when doing overlaps
01:12 Electoz: you should have a reason or logic for doing so
01:12 Electoz: could be aesthetics, patterning, etc
01:12 Electoz: e.g. 03:10:561 (3,5) - this kind of thing is fine
01:13 Electoz: 03:30:221 (1,2,3) - this is also okayish since the overlap is for patterning purpose
01:13 Electoz: oh wait are you afk
01:13 zhu: im here
01:13 Electoz: ok
01:14 Electoz: also one of the important things here is that
01:14 Electoz: your repeat slider usage
01:14 Electoz: generally we don't use 1/2 repeat sliders in intense sections
01:14 Electoz: aka when the song is not calm
01:14 Electoz: cuz intense sections tend to have a higher SV
01:15 Electoz: and repeat sliders generally force you to go back and forth
01:15 Electoz: which most people found them uncomfortable
01:15 zhu: oh
01:15 zhu: any examples
01:15 Electoz: stuff like
01:15 Electoz: 01:11:600 (2) - 
01:15 Electoz: for example
01:15 Electoz: other reason is that
01:16 Electoz: repeat sliders at least involve 2 passive beats
01:16 Electoz: which ruins the intensity
01:16 Electoz: passive beats = anything that's not clickable, repeat, slidertails, or whatever
01:16 Electoz: like for example
01:16 Electoz: 01:57:746 (6) - 
01:16 Electoz: for intense sections, like kiai for example
01:17 Electoz: you want objects to be clickable more than any other section
01:17 zhu: so
01:17 Electoz: beause that way represent the gameplay that hey the things are harder to play when the intensity of the song increases
01:17 zhu: i reokace them with
01:17 zhu: replace
01:18 zhu: i see
01:18 Electoz: so
01:18 Electoz: for
01:18 Electoz: 01:57:746 (6) - 
01:18 Electoz: you could use slider + circle, cicle + slider, or 3 circles
01:18 Electoz: according to
01:18 Electoz: the rhythm you're following
01:18 Electoz: use as you see fit
01:18 zhu: okay
01:18 Electoz: because repeat sliders don't really force you to jump right
01:19 zhu: yes
01:19 Electoz: if it were 2 separated objects
01:19 Electoz: at least the intensity can be somewhat reflected by the jump
01:20 Electoz: 02:00:368 (5,6,1) - hmm I wish you could do this kind of stuff more
01:20 Electoz: instead of
01:20 Electoz: long ass streams like
01:20 Electoz: 03:15:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 03:28:327 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 
01:20 Electoz: just my
01:20 Electoz: presonal preference
01:20 Electoz: but
01:21 Electoz: generally 1/4 sliders involve more speed in gameplay
01:21 Electoz: compared to stream
01:21 Electoz: while stream needs more tapping than 1/4 sliders
01:21 Electoz: these are gameplay differences between them
01:22 zhu: kick sliders?
01:22 Electoz: 02:13:183 (7) - 03:28:619 (7,8,9,10) - should use the same rhythm between these btw
01:22 Electoz: I think?
01:22 Electoz: I'm trying not to call that
01:22 Electoz: beacuse there are 2 definitions
01:22 Electoz: for the term "kickslider"
01:22 Electoz: and it's confusing
01:23 zhu: can you explain it
01:24 Electoz: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/470582/start=0&view=viewpoll
01:24 Electoz: should be easier with that link
01:25 zhu: hold down slider?
01:26 Electoz: I
01:26 Electoz: honestly don't know how to explain that
01:26 Electoz: the link I gave you
01:26 Electoz: is the most straightforward way to explain it
01:26 Electoz: there are two definitions of it, left and right
01:26 Electoz: for each definition
01:27 Electoz: "single 1/4 slider jumps without repeats." vs "1/4 sliders with repeats."
01:27 zhu: first one is kick slider and second one is hold down slider right?
01:29 Electoz: depends on what you want to call it
01:29 Electoz: if you're calling the thing on the left as "kick slider"
01:29 Electoz: then fine I'll use that term today
01:29 Electoz: so it's easier to understand
01:29 zhu: okay
01:29 Electoz: to answer your previous question
01:30 Electoz: 02:00:368 (5,6) - yes these are what you're referring as "kick sliders"
01:30 Electoz: because they involve jumps as well as 1/4 rhythms
01:30 Electoz: so you will need to move your cursor faster than a stream in gameplay
01:31 Electoz: your rhythms are sometimes questionable though
01:31 Electoz: like
01:31 Electoz: 01:52:940 - is not clickable
01:32 Electoz: yet 03:08:376 - is
01:32 Electoz: aka you should be more consistent on what rhythm you're prioritizing
01:32 Electoz: be it vocals, drums, or whatever
01:33 zhu: cant i prioritize other things in other parts
01:33 Electoz: let's see
01:33 Electoz: depends
01:33 Electoz: for example
01:33 Electoz: if
01:33 Electoz: those parts
01:33 Electoz: are musically the same
01:33 Electoz: then you shouldn't
01:34 Electoz: because the rhythms should be consistent, in order to consistently reflect the song throughout the map
01:34 Electoz: also players can't play intuitively if you focused rhythms differently when the parts are the same
01:34 zhu: oh
01:35 Electoz: most of your placements
01:35 Electoz: can be a lot more polished
01:35 Electoz: by making visual spacings consistent
01:35 Electoz: for example 02:18:135 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - these are nice
01:36 Electoz: like you can see the visual spacing between each circle are consistently spaced
01:36 Electoz: even though they're jumps on almost every one of them
01:36 Electoz: I'm not saying that
01:36 Electoz: you must space things visually consistent all the time
01:37 zhu: its like monstrata hexagon
01:37 Electoz: but it's more like a thing to make your map cleaner in some if not most occasions
01:37 Electoz: uh
01:37 Electoz: yeah
01:37 Electoz: kinda
01:37 Electoz: monstrata can be an example of this
01:37 zhu: i felt like using it
01:37 zhu: his maps are so clean
01:37 zhu: i like his style
01:37 Electoz: it's depends on mappers' style also
01:38 Electoz: honestly about aesthetics though
01:38 Electoz: there's no way of it being completely right or wrong
01:38 Electoz: (unless it really sucks)
01:38 Electoz: but it's more like
01:38 Electoz: something you'll figure out by yourself sooner or later
01:38 Electoz: as long as you map more
01:38 Electoz: sometimes getting mods can help
01:38 zhu: imma make this map more clean
01:39 Electoz: because there will be some modders who give comments/feedbacks on aesthetics
01:39 Electoz: in their opinion
01:39 Electoz: 02:41:436 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - yeah could be cleaner here too
01:39 Electoz: like
01:39 Electoz: this thing look unclean because
01:39 Electoz: 02:41:581 (2,6) - there's an overlap
01:39 Electoz: and there's no such thing anywhere else in this pattern or whatever
01:40 Electoz: so the placements look kinda random
01:40 zhu: i dont even remember what i was thinking
01:40 zhu: lol
01:40 Electoz: zz
01:41 Electoz: 03:02:988 (3) - lol what
01:41 zhu: like this
01:41 zhu: 01:03:881 (8,2) -
01:41 Electoz: what do you mean by 01:03:881 (8,2) - 
01:41 zhu: i didnt fixed that after velocity multiplier it seems
01:42 zhu: 01:03:881 (8,2) - these are overlapped
01:42 zhu: should i place 01:04:609 (2) -  this on
01:42 zhu: x144 y72
01:43 zhu: and fix
01:43 zhu: 01:04:755 (3) - this ones spacing
01:43 zhu: ?
01:43 Electoz: depends
01:43 Electoz: but for me it's cleaner
01:43 Electoz: with the thing stacked
01:43 Electoz: overlapping a circle under a sliderbody is
01:43 Electoz: unclean + ruins readability
01:44 zhu: okay
01:44 Electoz: 01:06:357 (1,2) - could swap NC if you care about downbeat stuff
01:45 zhu: roger
01:46 Electoz: actually I'm sleepy now so
01:46 Electoz: probably one last thing
01:46 Electoz: 02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - 
01:46 Electoz: when you're making a pattern
01:46 Electoz: or something
01:46 Electoz: make sure that it represents the song, according to your interpretation
01:47 Electoz: let's see
01:47 Electoz: for example
01:47 Electoz: 01:55:999 (1,2,3,4,5) - you did this
01:47 Electoz: because it reflects vocal right?
01:47 Electoz: and you do that whenever the same vocal happens on other places
01:47 zhu: yeah i suppose
01:47 Electoz: so
01:47 Electoz: that one
01:47 Electoz: reflects vocal
01:47 Electoz: and what about 02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - then?
01:48 Electoz: do they reflect vocals? drums? or other rhythms?
01:48 Electoz: if you can't answer that question to yourself
01:48 Electoz: then yea you got a problem
01:48 zhu: drums
01:48 zhu: i think
01:48 Electoz: so 
01:48 Electoz: assuming you know what you're doing
01:48 Electoz: the next thing to consider is
01:49 Electoz: whether you do that kind of pattern consistently
01:49 Electoz: in this case
01:49 Electoz: 02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - is a pattern
01:49 Electoz: 03:25:415 (1,2,3,4,5) - is not I assume?
01:50 Electoz: if some things are musically the same
01:50 zhu: oh
01:50 Electoz: then they should be reflected by similar patterns
01:50 Electoz: in mapping
01:50 Electoz: that's the very core point
01:50 Electoz: of it
01:50 zhu: okay ill fix that
01:50 zhu: i just couldnt notice that
01:50 zhu: do you think this map will be ranked in near future
01:51 Electoz: probably needs quite a bunch of mods at the very least
01:51 Electoz: to me the biggest issue I have here
01:51 Electoz: *issues
01:51 Electoz: are the way you used 1/2 repeat sliders and random overlaps which made the map untidy
01:51 Electoz: which I already mention those
01:52 zhu: i see
01:52 zhu: ill try my best
01:52 zhu: to dix them
01:52 zhu: fix*
01:52 Electoz: aa
01:52 Electoz: alright
01:52 Electoz: guess I'll sleep now
01:52 Electoz: 1:52 am
01:52 Electoz: zzz
01:53 Electoz: oh
01:53 Electoz: yeah
01:53 Electoz: one more thing
01:53 Electoz: generally for extra diffs
01:53 zhu: its 3am here imma sleep aswel
01:53 Electoz: OD generally is 8 or more
01:53 Electoz: OD depends on the complexity of rhythms in the map
01:53 Electoz: and BPM
01:53 Electoz: higher BPM = chances of higher OD
01:53 Electoz: vice versa happens too when the BPM is low
01:54 zhu: 8is good i suppose?
01:54 Electoz: 8 should be fine
01:54 zhu: okay
01:54 Electoz: ok for real I'm gonna sleep
01:54 Electoz: you don't mind if I post the logs for kds right

- e - v - b-

184 posts

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- e - v - b- 2017-10-01T21:19:58+00:00

Hey there, could you map your own version of the song for your top diff? considering that you literally copy and pasted my map? (talking about [Redemption] diff btw)

zhu

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Topic Starter

zhu 2017-11-13T14:58:59+00:00

repost

Rousseau_old_1

Rousseau_old_1 2017-12-29T14:36:56+00:00

За мод рекүэст oWo !!! Хэлсэнээр чинь экстра дээр чинь л мод хийсэн шүү.
Add tags and check aimod
Extra
Increase SV to 2.2 2.3 or more 1.8 is too low for extra also feels kind a off for kiai parts
00:47:261 (3,4,5,6) - 00:43:038 (1) - 00:43:329 (2) - 00:44:349 (2) - 00:45:805 (3,7) - 00:48:572 (4,5) - add CLAP
00:54:852 (1,4,1,2,1,1) - fix blanket
01:07:959 (1,2,3) - use rotating
01:11:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - fix blanket
01:13:493 (1,2,3) - is this intentional or just ugly ?
за тэгээд ер нь СВ ээ ихэсгээд янзалчвал дажгүй л юм байншд ккк goodluck

zhu

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Topic Starter

zhu 2017-12-29T16:42:15+00:00

Fukada Eriko wrote:
За мод рекүэст oWo !!! Хэлсэнээр чинь экстра дээр чинь л мод хийсэн шүү.
Add tags and check aimod
Extra
Increase SV to 2.2 2.3 or more 1.8 is too low for extra also feels kind a off for kiai parts
00:47:261 (3,4,5,6) - 00:43:038 (1) - 00:43:329 (2) - 00:44:349 (2) - 00:45:805 (3,7) - 00:48:572 (4,5) - add CLAP
00:54:852 (1,4,1,2,1,1) - fix blanket
01:07:959 (1,2,3) - use rotating
01:11:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - fix blanket
01:13:493 (1,2,3) - is this intentional or just ugly ?
за тэгээд ер нь СВ ээ ихэсгээд янзалчвал дажгүй л юм байншд ккк goodluck

Fixed all thanks <3

zhu

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zhu 2017-12-29T16:42:46+00:00

Removed Extra changed Redemption name into extra instead.

zhu

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zhu 2017-12-29T16:44:23+00:00

Added 3 taiko difficulties including
Nifty's Inner Oni (4.15 stars, 748 notes)
Nifty's Muzukashii (3.3 stars, 622 notes)
Nifty's Oni (3.77 stars, 664 notes)

zhu

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zhu 2017-12-29T16:48:01+00:00

Added 2 std guest difficulties including :
Cordi's Easy (1.19 stars, 83 notes)
Victor's Hard (3 stars, 291 notes)

zhu

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zhu 2017-12-30T17:00:10+00:00

Added Starset's Extra (5.9 stars, 515 notes)

bob80905

151 posts

Joined June 2015

bob80905 2017-12-31T00:40:26+00:00

Starset's Extra

00:09:734 (3) - There seems to be a missing note here. There's a sound right before it. Maybe try a short slider?
00:26:134 (7,8,1) - Me being picky, but these aren't evenly spaced
00:07:334 (1,2) - Using this for reference, you establish an aesthetic of perfectly overlapping sliders. But these 00:32:934 (1,2) - 00:35:134 (3,1) - break that pattern. Just fyi.
00:42:310 (2) - I'd make this slider angled more vertically, makes for a better transition for previous and next note.
00:46:824 (2,3,4,5,6) - I'd make these more spaced, you're representing the same sounds with less space. The sounds right before this were spaced, so either make those smaller or make these larger ds.
01:02:698 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is just one example, but I'm not getting the pattern of when you choose to stack and when you choose to space just a little bit and overlap. From here on you seem to put hit circles always directly over slider tails, but other object combinations aren't always stacked which makes it feel kinda weird. imo. Like 01:17:553 (4,5,6) - or 01:26:727 (4,6) - 01:28:475 (6,2) - 01:00:368 (4,1) or - 01:03:572 (5,6) -
01:40:853 (1,2) - Are you not stacking these cause the spacing is 1/1? That might be a good reason, otherwise, it breaks your pattern fyi.
01:47:261 (1,2) - This one definitely breaks the pattern you've seem to have set between 1:10 and 1:30
01:47:844 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Something I personally like to do with jumps like these is leave 4 in the same exact position as 1 will be for the next set. This gives a sense of stop for time and also feels really good to play. consider it. It might give more structure to the jumps as well.
01:54:397 (4) - Maybe if you mean to follow the pattern you set for slightly offset hit circle positions, move 4 a bit to the bottom right so it compliments the previous 2 circles?
02:03:718 (4) - Same with this one, what if you do it with the next 1 circle? 02:04:300 (1) -
02:06:630 (2) - I think if you moved this under the slider in stead of making a super wide jump it'd be smoother to play and more intuitive

Insane

00:20:134 (1) - This slider should probably be similar to the very first slider in the map. So, maybe make this slider curved, or make the first slider in the map similar to this.
00:29:534 (1,2,3) - Seems to me like these should be more separate from the previous note, like how you spaced 6 from 5 with the note change. here you're entering a new segment. What if you try horizontally flipping this and moving it to x=400 y=128? I like this feel better.
00:32:534 (8,1) - Something about these sliders doesnt feel "right" to play. Like, going from a slider leading upwards, I'm not used to then hitting a curved slider that starts going upwards. So, I'd vertically flip 1. See what's that like, change if you like it more.
00:44:932 (1) - Lots of people have a not so good relationship with 3 reverse slider. I'd recommend you just make this and the next note a 5 stream. Hitting the next note is not intuitive and is also rather far away for the amount of time given to hit it.
00:56:874 (8,9) - The positions of these notes in relation to later notes in the song are not flattering, they aren't perfect, and the patter they're in isn't revolutionary. I'd say try coming up with a pattern so that 6789 compliment the upcoming notes and dont partially overlap with anything. or maybe you could just move 8 and 9 (8 overlaps with 00:58:039 (4) - and 9 overlaps with 00:57:748 (3) -)
01:07:505 (6) - This slider isn't optimally positioned. Try rotating it -30 degrees and bringing it down so it doesn't overlap with anything.
01:14:350 (6) - What if you moved 6 down and made a cool diamond shape? where it is now may be hard to read. 01:14:932 (8) - and then move this down a little
01:19:592 (6) - Why not move this more to the left on the left side of the slider? Needless overlap.
01:24:543 (7,1) - Ehhhh, you could just separate these.... its easier on the eyes.
01:29:495 (2) - Is there some way you can move this so it doesnt overlap with anything? Like, 01:08:524 (9,10,2) - This is an okay overlap cause each end looks like it overlaps the same area with the other. But this overlap doesn't work... Maybe move the square pattern further to the left and try to play with how you position the sliders?
01:48:717 (1,2) - This is a rhythmical inconsistency. You just did 2 circles and a slider for the 4 intense notes. So try copying that. and the next set, shouldn't it be 2 circles and then a slider, not the other way around?
02:05:901 (5) - I think the concavity of this slider is incorrect. This pattern establishes a clockwise flow, and you break that with this slider. You should just ctrlH this slider and place it right back where it was

Good luck on the map, I like the music

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-12-31T16:10:00+00:00

bob80905 wrote:
Starset's Extra
00:09:734 (3) - There seems to be a missing note here. There's a sound right before it. Maybe try a short slider? //i decide to ignore that note since its very quiet and its on a blue tick
00:26:134 (7,8,1) - Me being picky, but these aren't evenly spaced //its meant to be like that
00:07:334 (1,2) - Using this for reference, you establish an aesthetic of perfectly overlapping sliders. But these 00:32:934 (1,2) - 00:35:134 (3,1) - break that pattern. Just fyi.//yes, because they are not using the same timelines
00:42:310 (2) - I'd make this slider angled more vertically, makes for a better transition for previous and next note. //nah i like this flow
00:46:824 (2,3,4,5,6) - I'd make these more spaced, you're representing the same sounds with less space. The sounds right before this were spaced, so either make those smaller or make these larger ds. //they are spaced depending on the instruments used, tahs why claps get more space than others
01:02:698 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is just one example, but I'm not getting the pattern of when you choose to stack and when you choose to space just a little bit and overlap. From here on you seem to put hit circles always directly over slider tails, but other object combinations aren't always stacked which makes it feel kinda weird. imo. Like 01:17:553 (4,5,6) - or 01:26:727 (4,6) - 01:28:475 (6,2) - 01:00:368 (4,1) or - 01:03:572 (5,6) - //overlap when its back and forth movement
01:40:853 (1,2) - Are you not stacking these cause the spacing is 1/1? That might be a good reason, otherwise, it breaks your pattern fyi. //ye
01:47:261 (1,2) - This one definitely breaks the pattern you've seem to have set between 1:10 and 1:30 //changed
01:47:844 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Something I personally like to do with jumps like these is leave 4 in the same exact position as 1 will be for the next set. This gives a sense of stop for time and also feels really good to play. consider it. It might give more structure to the jumps as well. //i know, i just like changin a bit from the normal
01:54:397 (4) - Maybe if you mean to follow the pattern you set for slightly offset hit circle positions, move 4 a bit to the bottom right so it compliments the previous 2 circles? //no need for that honestly, player wont tell the diffrence anyway, so stacking it and thats it
02:03:718 (4) - Same with this one, what if you do it with the next 1 circle? 02:04:300 (1) - //would be too much spaced for the next note
02:06:630 (2) - I think if you moved this under the slider in stead of making a super wide jump it'd be smoother to play and more intuitive //which slider

update

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zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-12-31T16:47:18+00:00

Insane

00:20:134 (1) - This slider should probably be similar to the very first slider in the map. So, maybe make this slider curved, or make the first slider in the map similar to this.
00:29:534 (1,2,3) - Seems to me like these should be more separate from the previous note, like how you spaced 6 from 5 with the note change. here you're entering a new segment. What if you try horizontally flipping this and moving it to x=400 y=128? I like this feel better.
00:32:534 (8,1) - Something about these sliders doesnt feel "right" to play. Like, going from a slider leading upwards, I'm not used to then hitting a curved slider that starts going upwards. So, I'd vertically flip 1. See what's that like, change if you like it more.
00:44:932 (1) - Lots of people have a not so good relationship with 3 reverse slider. I'd recommend you just make this and the next note a 5 stream. Hitting the next note is not intuitive and is also rather far away for the amount of time given to hit it.
00:56:874 (8,9) - The positions of these notes in relation to later notes in the song are not flattering, they aren't perfect, and the patter they're in isn't revolutionary. I'd say try coming up with a pattern so that 6789 compliment the upcoming notes and dont partially overlap with anything. or maybe you could just move 8 and 9 (8 overlaps with 00:58:039 (4) - and 9 overlaps with 00:57:748 (3) -)
01:07:505 (6) - This slider isn't optimally positioned. Try rotating it -30 degrees and bringing it down so it doesn't overlap with anything.
01:14:350 (6) - What if you moved 6 down and made a cool diamond shape? where it is now may be hard to read. 01:14:932 (8) - and then move this down a little
01:19:592 (6) - Why not move this more to the left on the left side of the slider? Needless overlap.
01:24:543 (7,1) - Ehhhh, you could just separate these.... its easier on the eyes.
01:29:495 (2) - Is there some way you can move this so it doesnt overlap with anything? Like, 01:08:524 (9,10,2) - This is an okay overlap cause each end looks like it overlaps the same area with the other. But this overlap doesn't work... Maybe move the square pattern further to the left and try to play with how you position the sliders?
01:48:717 (1,2) - This is a rhythmical inconsistency. You just did 2 circles and a slider for the 4 intense notes. So try copying that. and the next set, shouldn't it be 2 circles and then a slider, not the other way around?
02:05:901 (5) - I think the concavity of this slider is incorrect. This pattern establishes a clockwise flow, and you break that with this slider. You should just ctrlH this slider and place it right back where it was

applied some didnt apply some kinda busy atm will mod your map in 2days

bob80905

151 posts

Joined June 2015

bob80905 2017-12-31T17:59:06+00:00

Sorry, Starset, I meant 02:05:902 (5) - for the last point, move the circle to the left or under this slider for easy and intuitive jumps

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-12-31T18:46:36+00:00

bob80905 wrote:
Sorry, Starset, I meant 02:05:902 (5) - for the last point, move the circle to the left or under this slider for easy and intuitive jumps

i wanna keep the back and forth movement to match the song

tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

tochiii 2018-01-02T14:18:47+00:00

here it is

GD

https://puu.sh/ySGJ5/7df6d3720c.osu

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Starset 2018-01-03T11:54:17+00:00

hitsounds update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nevereverland.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Starset's Extra
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
BeatmapID:1507079
BeatmapSetID:621438

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9.3
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Skylish

1,069 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2018-01-04T14:47:18+00:00

The map owner asked me to do a few testplays on the taiko set, here's the summary of my feedback to Nifty:

1. Wrong barline setting:

> 01:31:533 - this is a new section yes, but it looks so poorly. The music extents from 01:31:387 - and does not show a distinct cut at 01:31:533 - . So you can omit this barline.

2. Spread issue:

The difficulty spread is poor across all 3 taiko difficulties. It is told very obviously already in the no. of objects.

Just simply removing or adding notes based on Oni does not work on Muzukashii or Inner Oni respectively. You must work on them individually considering the use of pattern and density spread via following different mapping channels, under different mapping rationales and emphases.

! Muzukashii should have more 1/2 breaks, the current 1/2 patterns are exactly the same of Oni. It is not okay....

! Inner Oni could contain more stream patterns to enrich the exciting tension of the music.

3. Uses of SV

! If you have SV Oni and SV Inner Oni, Muzukashii should only have light and necessary SV changes only, or even without any SVs. It makes sense to provide a real easier difficulty among the whole Taiko set. Talking about the SVs in Muzukashii, they are too vigorous, and should not be tolerated in Muzukashii level. In Oni and Inner Oni, you can more or less fine-tune the SV changes to show a progression of them respectively.

> The SV changes are questionable: 01:04:154 - / 01:32:115 - they should not share the same value of SV because of their different tensions. It is so weird now, the SVs are mismatch for 0.8x in drum-set-available sections. Simple 1.0x is good enough, for progressive SVs, you can use 1.0x+ method to express it. 1.0x+ (<1.15x perhaps) is acceptable for BPM=206.

[]

A small reminder on the 1366*651 resolution Taiko BG, 1366*768 is the recommended one. (Full HD is always welcome)

You must get mods to fix the above mentioned stuff first before you try to reach BNs' checks.

Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-04T20:47:48+00:00

yeah I kinda shit out these diffs without thinking of them (at the time, this set hadn't had mods for like 5 months.)

Guess I'll actually take a look.

dunno why owner called bn without having mods.

I never noticed that redline issue, I didn't analyze what zhu gave me, anyways. I mean, the sv are even off because I first mapped two diffs with 1.8x base sv instead of 1.4 cause I didn't notice xd

~~how the hell did you get here so fast anyways~~

Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-05T02:47:11+00:00

I'll post them here.

Fixed... everything lmao

muzu

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Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-05T02:47:40+00:00

double post, first post had 900 too many characters lmao

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bezbashn

181 posts

Joined June 2015

bezbashn 2018-01-05T10:48:53+00:00

[Insane]
00:56:290 (5) - Maybe put this with 00:57:601 in a stack ?
01:01:242 (6,7,9) - Maybe it's just me, but for aesthetics look out for things like that

01:10:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Looks perfect centered, but it's not

02:00:076 - I'd make this stream one of this shapes

[Starset's Extra]
00:44:931 (4) - NC perhaps ?
01:50:610 - This piano sound is last and it goes longer than just a single note. Would like it to be made as a slider to 01:50:756

[-Tochi's Extra]
00:03:734 (6,1) - Stack them for the greater good
00:04:934 (3,4) - These two are in contrast of previous two. You need player to realise that there is a time gap between them. Space them a bit
00:13:334 (8) - All previous sounds are going lower but you've emphasized just this one with bigger spacing. Make all circles increase/decrease spacing between each other or don't do anything.
00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - No practical use of NC. All sounds are the same. Also there is no sudden change in music.
01:14:057 (1,3) - Since this difficulty is extra i guess placing it this way is okay. Just decided to mention.

Then there are just repeating things

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-05T10:57:40+00:00

bezbashn wrote:
[Insane]
00:56:290 (5) - Maybe put this with 00:57:601 in a stack ? fixed
01:01:242 (6,7,9) - Maybe it's just me, but for aesthetics look out for things like that fixed

01:10:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Looks perfect centered, but it's not fixed

02:00:076 - I'd make this stream one if this shapes made straight

Narcissu

1,744 posts

Joined August 2012

Narcissu 2018-01-05T11:45:40+00:00

General

try use 192kbps mp3 .
and i think clips will be better than fade out, simple example: http://puu.sh/yUJ3u/fc3fddef32.mp3
01:51:338 - need‘t red line?

Redemption

00:02:134 (2,3) - NC same as 00:08:534 (2,1) - ?
00:10:534 (1,2,3) - i dislike stacking in downbeat lol, i will jump here as your “add whistle” 00:10:934 (2,3) - 00:11:534 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/yUJf1/ad457cf5fa.jpg
00:18:734 - maybe you follow voice, but i suggest add note here 。and 00:16:934 (2) - 1/1 better imo
00:40:854 (1,2,3) - 01:26:290 (7,8,9) - 01:29:786 (5,6,7) - it's really bad, 3hit before downbeat is common sense of music. if you want to add 3hit, should be like 01:43:038 (4,5,1) - 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - under normal conditions

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-05T12:19:15+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
General
try use 192kbps mp3 . alright
and i think clips will be better than fade out, simple example: http://puu.sh/yUJ3u/fc3fddef32.mp3 I will consider this
01:51:338 - need‘t red line? fixed

Redemption
00:02:134 (2,3) - NC same as 00:08:534 (2,1) - ? fixed
00:10:534 (1,2,3) - i dislike stacking in downbeat lol, i will jump here as your “add whistle” 00:10:934 (2,3) - 00:11:534 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/yUJf1/ad457cf5fa.jpg fixed
00:18:734 - maybe you follow voice, but i suggest add note here 。and 00:16:934 (2) - 1/1 better imo it is better this way
00:40:854 (1,2,3) - 01:26:290 (7,8,9) - 01:29:786 (5,6,7) - it's really bad, 3hit before downbeat is common sense of music. if you want to add 3hit, should be like 01:43:038 (4,5,1) - 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - under normal conditions fixed one

ailv

403 posts

Joined August 2015

ailv 2018-01-05T14:07:00+00:00

General Stuff

fix ur slider colours/borders and stuff, they're not the same across all diffs.

Check these hs they have >5ms delay

drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav
normal-hitclap4.wav

Redemption

00:09:334 (1,2,3,1) - spacing is too large, even though it's 1/1 compare to earlier 00:02:134 (2,1) - , 00:04:934 (3,4) - or 00:06:534 (6,1) -
00:07:334 (1,2) - flow is bad here, 00:08:534 (2) - nudge this over so it's in line with the exit of 1

00:13:734 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is kind of bad rhythm wise, i'd use more filler rhythm, cause as it stands the entire background is being ignored in favour of the vocals, and that's not emphasized well either
for example, 00:16:334 (1) - begins on a piano, and misses the big vocal tick here. Try not to mix instrument like this, it doesn't work well.
00:19:734 (3,4) - Certain spacings are also really low :c you lose a lot of emphasis this way.

00:40:926 (2) - theres no note here.00:40:999 (3,4) - stack 4 under 3? i dont think there's enough reason for there to be much movement here, 4 isn't a very strong note.

00:42:164 (3,4) - spacing is too large, this note has no drum it's just a muted string. 00:42:455 (4,5) - needs more spacing since there is a drum

00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - this isn't 1/4 it's 1/4 rhythm, 2 and 4 are mapped to nothing at all. 00:43:620 (4,1) - This low angle and spacing is very awkward to play.

00:46:679 (1,2) - spacing is too low

00:50:174 (2) - rhythm starting here is wonky. I'd recommend checking to make sure strong sounds are clickable and weak sounds aren't. The current way seems abstract and it's difficult to identify the instrument each note is mapped to, there's not really much consistency. Some examples below:
00:50:465 (3) - should be 2 notes, 00:50:756 (4,5) - should be 1 slider
00:53:087 (4,5) - should be a slider, 00:52:795 (3) - two notes.

01:03:863 (7,8) - spacing is literally a cross-screen jump that's basically unsupported by the music whatsoever. 01:03:572 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 circles are much less intense than 01:02:989 (1,2,3,4) - but use much higher spacing.

01:07:941 (3,4,5) - Pattern like this makes no sense really. You kill any sort of spacing emphasis, they're all different sounds, and you've never done this sort of stacking before.

this section also has many issues, 01:08:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - rhythm wise.
01:10:271 (6,7) - should be a slider, 01:09:543 (4) - should be 2 circles.

The rhythm and spacing issues persist for the rest of the map, I'll stop on this diff for now. Feel free to ask me ingame if you need help or if you want another check later once you've replied.

-Tochi's Extra

01:31:533 (custom set number)
01:51:339 (kiai)

double green lines

00:07:284 (1,2) - is kind of misleading since, 00:09:634 (4,5) - is 1/4th rhythm.

00:15:734 (1,2,1,1,1,2) - I don't think you need nc spam here or here 00:21:934 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) -, 00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - , it's really excessive, nc spam doesn't need to be used to make it easier to read or anything they're pretty simple patterns in a slow spot.

01:02:407 (1,2) - these have the guitar while, 01:02:698 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - don't. It'd be better to make them distinguished.

01:33:863 (1,1,1,1) - unneeded nc's 01:35:465 (1) -, 01:43:766 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - , 01:50:318 (1,1,1) -

01:52:649 (2) - stacking this really kills the emphasis

01:53:377 (5,6) - spacing feels low

very fun map c:

Last edited by ailv 2018-01-09T15:21:41+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2018-01-05T15:21:49+00:00

bezbashn wrote:
[Starset's Extra]
00:44:931 (4) - NC perhaps ? //not needed
01:50:610 - This piano sound is last and it goes longer than just a single note. Would like it to be made as a slider to 01:50:756 //i prefer keeping it

update

osu file format v14

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Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Starset's Extra
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
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zhu

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zhu 2018-01-05T18:04:42+00:00

ailv wrote:
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fix ur slider colours/borders and stuff, they're not the same across all diffs. Intentional

Check these hs they have >5ms delay

drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav
normal-hitclap4.wav Took them from ranked set so it is okay

Redemption

00:09:334 (1,2,3,1) - spacing is too large, even though it's 1/1 compare to earlier 00:02:134 (2,1) - , 00:04:934 (3,4) - or 00:06:534 (6,1) - not really i am following the strong piano

00:07:334 (1,2) - flow is bad here, 00:08:534 (2) - nudge this over so it's in line with the exit of 1 fixed

00:13:734 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is kind of bad rhythm wise, i'd use more filler rhythm, cause as it stands the entire background is being ignored in favour of the vocals, and that's not emphasized well either
for example, 00:16:334 (1) - begins on a piano, and misses the big vocal tick here. Try not to mix instrument like this, it doesn't work well.
00:19:734 (3,4) - Certain spacings are also really low :c you lose a lot of emphasis this way. will try to remap this section

00:40:926 (2) - theres no note here.00:40:999 (3,4) - stack 4 under 3? i dont think there's enough reason for there to be much movement here, 4 isn't a very strong note. fixed

00:42:164 (3,4) - spacing is too large, this note has no drum it's just a muted string. 00:42:455 (4,5) - needs more spacing since there is a drum
fixed
00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - this isn't 1/4 it's 1/4 rhythm, 2 and 4 are mapped to nothing at all. 00:43:620 (4,1) - This low angle and spacing is very awkward to play. fixed

00:46:679 (1,2) - spacing is too low fixed

00:50:174 (2) - rhythm starting here is wonky. I'd recommend checking to make sure strong sounds are clickable and weak sounds aren't. The current way seems abstract and it's difficult to identify the instrument each note is mapped to, there's not really much consistency. Some examples below:
00:50:465 (3) - should be 2 notes, 00:50:756 (4,5) - should be 1 slider
00:53:087 (4,5) - should be a slider, 00:52:795 (3) - two notes. fixed

01:03:863 (7,8) - spacing is literally a cross-screen jump that's basically unsupported by the music whatsoever. 01:03:572 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 circles are much less intense than 01:02:989 (1,2,3,4) - but use much higher spacing. fixed

01:07:941 (3,4,5) - Pattern like this makes no sense really. You kill any sort of spacing emphasis, they're all different sounds, and you've never done this sort of stacking before. trying to emphasize lyrics

this section also has many issues, 01:08:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - rhythm wise.
01:10:271 (6,7) - should be a slider, 01:09:543 (4) - should be 2 circles. fixed

The rhythm and spacing issues persist for the rest of the map, I'll stop on this diff for now. Feel free to ask me ingame if you need help or if you want another check later once you've replied.

YukiZura-

762 posts

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YukiZura- 2018-01-06T04:06:08+00:00

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[Reality]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) -
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation

like this for example

00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition
01:51:047 (3) - no sound

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here?
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this

insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol ..
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player

ok that's all ><
goodluck

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