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nano - Nevereverland [Osu|Taiko]

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Nifty
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Joined September 2014
Nifty
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osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nevereverland.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
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[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 2.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
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[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Nifty's Oni
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
BeatmapID:1503444
BeatmapSetID:621438

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zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

Mishima Yurara wrote:

00:26:134 (4,5,6) - misplaced stack and 6 should be a new combo not 00:26:934 (1) - Tbh
00:29:534 (1,2,3) - th u should focus on putting ncs on the BNig White Ticks isntead of the heads of triples and shit Lol
should take more consideration about ur visual spacing consistency and overlaps such as 01:04:737 (3,4,1) - and 01:06:339 (6,4) - being rediculously close 2gether or 01:06:194 (5,1) - 01:09:397 (3,4,1) - having inconsistent visual overlap distance, helps make ur map much cleaner
same with using patterns together like 00:51:630 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:52:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks weird when u completely stack in1 pattern but only custom stack in the other pattern Lol
ur alternation between vopcals and drums is also very inconsistent (specifically in the verse, the kiai seems to be very well done rhythmically-speaking) where u alternate a few times between 1/1 and 3/4 sliders while also randomly switching between wot the 1/2 sliders and circles r mapping to as well between vocals and drums, its kinda prety really Super Weird

01:51:047 - also prety weird to just leave this when the whole kiai is mapped to the vocals
02:09:979 (7,1) - nc swap

i think the main problem is that ur visual spacing is just super inconsistent (especially with stacking), some of the ncs are done weirdly/for the sake of design instead of playability/based on the music, and rhythms in the verse are kind of whack, if u polish them up throuhgouht the whole map it could make it significantly better overall


sry 4 taking 50 yrs
oh god took you long enough
zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

He said it bois. I removed override and border color from all difs made no other changes.
Last edited by zhu , edited 1 time in total.
Jonarwhal
1,227 posts
Joined November 2013
Jonarwhal
mod from queue: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/689354/start=0
[Nifteh]
  1. Your Oni needs to be nerfed or your Inner Oni needs to be increased in some sections.
    Example:
    ~
    Preferably you nerf the Oni there. Thanks >W</~
  2. I know I'm not seeing unsnapped notes
  3. 02:14:639 - This kiai needs to be snapped too
That's important so I'll continue later. Call me back!
Nifty
902 posts
Joined September 2014
Nifty
snapped kiais, did nerfs to section. the rest of the diff should be fairly balanced, it looked like just the beginning was wonky

muzu
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Nifty
902 posts
Joined September 2014
Nifty
second post for char limit

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victorfernando
292 posts
Joined October 2016
victorfernando

Namki wrote:

[Victor's Hard]
  1. I don't really know if this concern of mine is that solid here since it's Hard and it's not supposed to be complex and reflect music by 100 percent but still. 00:46:824 (1,2) - it's stacked and 00:46:824 - stronger than 00:46:970 - so it's logical to stack these but on the other hand 00:47:407 (4,5) - music is pretty the same for 00:47:407 - and 00:47:553 - (I would even say 00:47:553 - is more prominent) so it lacks logic. The same here 00:52:358 (4,5) - it's even the new measure. I suggest you to keep some of the stacks and remove stacks on that prominent sounds.
  2. 00:49:591 (6) - that's too obvious issue as for me. Replace it?
  3. 01:01:679 - want to see a circle here.
  4. Maybe NC every 01:48:717 (3) - / 01:49:591 (5) - / 01:50:319 (7) - and 01:51:047 (8) - . The last two ones defenitely should be NC'd and 01:51:339 (9,1) - switched NC for sure.
  5. 01:50:319 (7) - the same concern as for Very Hard. You expressed it in the same way as 01:47:844 (1) - / 01:48:717 (3) - and 01:49:591 (5) - so maybe circles for variety. fixed NC thing's , and changed the part of repeat, but the stack's i will see
victorfernando
292 posts
Joined October 2016
victorfernando

PandaHero wrote:

[victorfernando]
Ah, I would recommend you to use cs 3.5-3.8 since Light Insane use 3.5 if I use low cs, space gets low so no .3.

00:11:134 (4,1) - try 1/1 slider + note instead? It will fit song better imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9989278
00:57:019 (4) - this pause confused me a bit? Try to add note on red tick and 1/2 slider on white, this is how the normies map such places
01:48:717 (3,5,7,8) - nc spam to show pauses in music to people?
01:54:979 (4,5) - players on this lvl can missread this thing
fixed all
victorfernando
292 posts
Joined October 2016
victorfernando

Myxomatosis wrote:

[Viktor's Hard]

  1. why is the second half of the kiai not hitsounded? (now it's hitsounded)
  2. in general, the spacings seem rather messy. there's almost no consistency in spacing, which is especially noticeable in calmer parts with fewer halfbeat rhythms. examples: 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - 3 different spacings for the same gap here, 00:13:334 (2,3,4,1,2) - this part uses similar distances for 1/1 and 3/2-gaps, 00:19:334 (1,2) - here the 1/1-spacing is the same as the halfbeat spacing right afterwards. i'd really recommend you to clean this up a bit and try to stick to similar distances throughout, unless you want to emphasize something special or it's needed for your patterning. if you need help with this or want more explanations find me ingame
  3. 00:31:734 (4,5) - seems quite out of place to have an extended slider (3/4-slider) here, since you don't use it anywhere else. turning it into a halfbeat slider would be more fitting. http://puu.sh/z0M9O/e76fbe14f4.jpg
fixed all :3
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400,216,79009,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,144,79154,2,0,L|232:120,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,64,79591,2,0,L|240:48,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,144,79883,2,0,L|112:128,1,55
48,184,80174,5,8,0:0:0:0:
48,184,80320,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,248,80465,2,0,L|96:312,2,55,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,224,80902,2,0,P|224:248|280:232,1,110
232,168,81339,6,0,L|240:104,1,55
328,64,81630,2,0,L|320:128,1,55
376,192,81921,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,82067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,240,82213,2,0,B|448:296|448:296|432:352,1,110
312,304,82795,6,0,L|192:288,1,110,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,320,83232,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,272,83378,2,0,B|88:208|48:208|72:144,1,110,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,104,83815,2,0,P|168:88|232:120,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,184,84252,2,0,P|296:152|304:128,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,240,84834,5,8,0:0:0:0:
192,240,84980,2,0,L|184:304,1,55,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,328,85271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,328,85417,2,0,L|96:208,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,159,85853,2,0,L|48:31,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,16,86290,6,0,L|200:24,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,96,86582,2,0,L|208:96,2,55,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,168,87164,2,0,P|376:208|376:248,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87455,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87601,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,328,87747,6,0,B|192:344|192:344|128:320,1,110,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,264,88184,2,0,B|120:208|80:208|104:144,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,96,88620,2,0,L|224:104,1,55
280,168,88912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,168,89057,2,0,L|264:240,2,55,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,96,89494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89640,5,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89786,2,0,B|416:96|416:96|392:176,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,224,90222,2,0,B|336:280|376:280|352:336,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,376,90659,2,0,P|232:368|216:360,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,304,90951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
168,304,91096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,224,91242,2,0,P|128:184|136:152,1,55
264,152,107844,6,0,P|261:115|272:80,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,224,108280,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,296,108717,6,0,P|412:289|448:296,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,344,109154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,272,109591,6,0,P|188:305|176:344,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,200,110028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110319,5,0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110465,2,0,P|304:176|296:192,1,55
144,200,111047,6,0,P|136:160|144:128,1,55
190,26,111339,2,0,P|191:53|184:80,1,55,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
137,146,111630,6,0,L|57:146,2,60.5000018463135,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,168,112067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,224,112212,2,0,L|288:312,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,320,112504,2,0,L|368:232,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,152,112795,5,8,0:0:0:0:
320,80,112940,2,0,P|272:96|192:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113377,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113523,1,2,0:0:0:0:
72,104,113669,2,0,L|8:88,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,152,114105,6,0,B|112:208|160:208|120:288,1,121.000003692627,0|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,321,114542,2,0,P|108:345|132:345,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,320,114834,1,0,0:0:0:0:
263,271,114979,2,0,L|260:197,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
335,124,115271,2,0,L|342:247,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,316,115707,6,0,P|417:322|447:313,1,60.5000018463135,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
477,242,115999,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,171,116144,2,0,L|432:107,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116581,6,0,B|326:64|326:64|246:32,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,21,117018,2,0,L|117:45,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117309,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117455,2,0,B|85:155|85:155|56:239,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,298,117892,5,2,0:0:0:0:
68,298,118038,2,0,L|149:299,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,255,118329,2,0,L|278:253,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,185,118766,2,0,P|145:105|177:57,1,121.000003692627,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,40,119203,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,93,119348,2,0,L|389:85,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119785,6,0,B|448:200|448:200|424:272,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,304,120222,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,256,120368,2,0,L|224:248,3,30.2500009231568,0|0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,248,120659,2,0,L|128:240,1,60.5000018463135,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,296,120950,1,8,0:0:0:0:
40,224,121096,2,0,L|48:88,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,48,121533,6,0,L|128:128,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,192,121824,2,0,L|208:120,1,60.5000018463135
272,72,122115,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,72,122261,2,0,B|336:88|336:88|408:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
459,116,122698,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,202,122843,2,0,P|384:153|394:61,1,181.500005538941,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,8,123426,5,2,0:0:0:0:
272,72,123572,2,0,L|144:56,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,120,124008,2,0,B|104:176|104:176|80:240,1,121.000003692627,4|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124445,1,8,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124591,2,0,P|75:323|128:312,1,60.5000018463135
176,272,124882,2,0,P|240:256|304:288,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,240,125319,6,0,P|363:204|376:160,1,60.5000018463135,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,72,125610,2,0,P|444:112|436:144,1,60.5000018463135,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,104,125902,2,0,B|326:100|326:100|288:112,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,144,126193,2,0,L|216:224,1,60.5000018463135,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,272,126484,2,0,L|312:192,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,329,126775,2,0,P|312:353|368:321,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127212,5,2,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127358,2,0,L|496:284,1,60.5000018463135,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,208,127649,2,0,B|464:152|464:152|488:80,1,121.000003692627,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,40,128086,2,0,L|336:32,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,104,128377,2,0,L|248:80,1,60.5000018463135,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,104,128669,2,0,B|152:152|152:152|176:224,1,121.000003692627
240,272,129105,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,272,129251,2,0,L|232:352,1,60.5000018463135
383,282,129688,6,0,L|388:196,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,143,129979,1,4,0:0:0:0:
287,69,130271,2,0,B|231:77|231:77|167:45,1,121.000003692627,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130853,6,0,P|121:156|94:230,1,121.000003692627,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131290,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131436,2,0,P|123:294|147:286,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
202,242,131727,2,0,P|233:236|273:244,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,317,132018,2,0,P|330:322|384:316,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,367,132309,2,0,P|446:311|405:244,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,191,132746,6,0,B|357:151|357:151|373:63,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,37,133183,2,0,L|282:102,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,150,133474,2,0,P|158:206|178:290,2,181.500005538941,14|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,232,134639,1,6,0:2:0:0:
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal
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zhu
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Joined March 2016
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zhu

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Shiguma
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Shiguma
Your Neverever...

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zhu
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zhu

Shiguma wrote:

Your Neverever...

full version

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MaridiuS
879 posts
Joined June 2014
MaridiuS
The promised mod

[Redemption]

The rhythm in the map doesn't seem to be executed on point. At times you fully follow the prime layers like synth or vocals, but sometimes you just decide to ignore it for some drums or indistinct guitar. Here is how I think it could be improved and why with examples.
  1. 00:40:854 - In this section there is the prime bass guitar and a solo guitar. You kept following the bass guitar until 00:43:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . In this example you switched to the solo guitar, which has a much higher pitch while the bass guitar is doing something too. Usually you'll want to switch layers when the one you were following completely settles down. Other than that high pitched guitar is left ear, bass is right ear so you have no idea how difficult it was for me to notice the change in layers. My suggestion would be to keep following bass guitar here, like make https://i.imgur.com/krSAeul.jpg this rhythm where all bass guitar sounds will be followed.
  2. 00:50:174 - The synth is making the melody in this section (we talked about what is a synth, its an electronic piano). So I assumed that the map should express that melody on point like you do on these sliders 00:50:174 (1,2,6,1,2,6) - . You should try this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/MGKXkm8.jpg because all clickable things will be only for synth rather than including not so relevant drum or guitar. You can include possible variations such as https://i.imgur.com/i7exSlW.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bk517o5.jpg . Applies to the whole section.
  3. 01:03:718 (6) - This note is empty, it has no sound in the song. 01:04:009 (8) - You should also consider not mapping this note so that you can give full emphasis to guitar. Vocals without any bgm, drum or guitar backup generally are really weak and mostly irrelevant to map, I think this is that case.
  4. 01:22:795 - In this section you should either follow the bass guitar or the synth. 01:25:125 - this sound is really irrelevant compared to the bass guitar and vastly different from it. By mapping both, the rhythm gets messed up, so either do https://i.imgur.com/yzjbIWq.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bkbe4xn.jpg. Most humans are not capable of following two different melodies at once (only the really trained ones like professional pianists), which is why I suggest you to follow one throughout. Repeats to other cases like this 01:25:999 - 01:27:455 - 01:29:494 - ..... 01:28:038 (6,7) - you did it nicely here
  5. 01:51:339 (2) - This note is too strong not to be a slider tbh, its tons stronger than 01:51:484 (3) - bcs more prominent guitar vocal and drums ;/. 02:02:989 (2,3) - Applies to this too.
  6. 02:01:096 (3,4) - By ctrl+ging here you will follow the vocals on point, you shouldn't make drums without vocals clickable if you did not till now.
The aesthetics could also use some work.
  1. 00:45:514 (1,3,5,7) - These seem really randomly placed. They all sound similar in the song, they are in the same combo, yet you change their shape and placing all the time. I suggest you do something nicer and more organized, like switch between two slider shapes (only copy paste and rotate by 90 degrees), don't overlap stuff if you won't overlap all the stuff. My example: https://i.imgur.com/SOERdGc.jpg , don't mind the movement, i just made a good looking pattern real fast.
  2. 00:52:213 (11,1,2) - A bit complicated to explain in a simple way, but if you use patterns such as this, it is a good idea to blanket them like https://i.imgur.com/hV6bxLd.jpg it should look much better.
  3. 00:58:038 (5) - Sliders shouldn't be tilted this much (blame the meta). Check pishifat video about aesthetics and slidershapes https://i.imgur.com/eaeJwSk.jpg this is about the max rotation until it starts looking bad :/.
  4. 00:54:834 (1,2,4) - Consider putting the circle in the middle so it gets blanketed by 2 sliders https://i.imgur.com/q21qAC2.jpg
  5. 01:05:611 (7,10) - You should avoid placing objects so close to each other, I moved it just slightly https://i.imgur.com/LNKToIR.jpg but it should give much more space. Applies to many examples in this map like 01:25:125 (3,5) - 01:27:747 (5,7) - 01:55:707 (1,3) - idk picked random examples, some may look okay but generally its a good idea to give bigger spacing between objects.
Generally I'd advise looking into pishifat videos about aesthetics and slidershapes. Hopefully this mod will not be to hard to understand since there could be language barriers.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/690966 if you've found this mod helpful, this is the mapset for m4m. If you don't have much time, just mod top and bottom diff.
zhu
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Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

MaridiuS wrote:

The promised mod

[Redemption]

The rhythm in the map doesn't seem to be executed on point. At times you fully follow the prime layers like synth or vocals, but sometimes you just decide to ignore it for some drums or indistinct guitar. Here is how I think it could be improved and why with examples.
  1. 00:40:854 - In this section there is the prime bass guitar and a solo guitar. You kept following the bass guitar until 00:43:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . In this example you switched to the solo guitar, which has a much higher pitch while the bass guitar is doing something too. Usually you'll want to switch layers when the one you were following completely settles down. Other than that high pitched guitar is left ear, bass is right ear so you have no idea how difficult it was for me to notice the change in layers. My suggestion would be to keep following bass guitar here, like make https://i.imgur.com/krSAeul.jpg this rhythm where all bass guitar sounds will be followed.
  2. 00:50:174 - The synth is making the melody in this section (we talked about what is a synth, its an electronic piano). So I assumed that the map should express that melody on point like you do on these sliders 00:50:174 (1,2,6,1,2,6) - . You should try this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/MGKXkm8.jpg because all clickable things will be only for synth rather than including not so relevant drum or guitar. You can include possible variations such as https://i.imgur.com/i7exSlW.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bk517o5.jpg . Applies to the whole section.
  3. 01:03:718 (6) - This note is empty, it has no sound in the song. 01:04:009 (8) - You should also consider not mapping this note so that you can give full emphasis to guitar. Vocals without any bgm, drum or guitar backup generally are really weak and mostly irrelevant to map, I think this is that case.
  4. 01:22:795 - In this section you should either follow the bass guitar or the synth. 01:25:125 - this sound is really irrelevant compared to the bass guitar and vastly different from it. By mapping both, the rhythm gets messed up, so either do https://i.imgur.com/yzjbIWq.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bkbe4xn.jpg. Most humans are not capable of following two different melodies at once (only the really trained ones like professional pianists), which is why I suggest you to follow one throughout. Repeats to other cases like this 01:25:999 - 01:27:455 - 01:29:494 - ..... 01:28:038 (6,7) - you did it nicely here
  5. 01:51:339 (2) - This note is too strong not to be a slider tbh, its tons stronger than 01:51:484 (3) - bcs more prominent guitar vocal and drums ;/. 02:02:989 (2,3) - Applies to this too.
  6. 02:01:096 (3,4) - By ctrl+ging here you will follow the vocals on point, you shouldn't make drums without vocals clickable if you did not till now.
The aesthetics could also use some work.
  1. 00:45:514 (1,3,5,7) - These seem really randomly placed. They all sound similar in the song, they are in the same combo, yet you change their shape and placing all the time. I suggest you do something nicer and more organized, like switch between two slider shapes (only copy paste and rotate by 90 degrees), don't overlap stuff if you won't overlap all the stuff. My example: https://i.imgur.com/SOERdGc.jpg , don't mind the movement, i just made a good looking pattern real fast.
  2. 00:52:213 (11,1,2) - A bit complicated to explain in a simple way, but if you use patterns such as this, it is a good idea to blanket them like https://i.imgur.com/hV6bxLd.jpg it should look much better.
  3. 00:58:038 (5) - Sliders shouldn't be tilted this much (blame the meta). Check pishifat video about aesthetics and slidershapes https://i.imgur.com/eaeJwSk.jpg this is about the max rotation until it starts looking bad :/.
  4. 00:54:834 (1,2,4) - Consider putting the circle in the middle so it gets blanketed by 2 sliders https://i.imgur.com/q21qAC2.jpg
  5. 01:05:611 (7,10) - You should avoid placing objects so close to each other, I moved it just slightly https://i.imgur.com/LNKToIR.jpg but it should give much more space. Applies to many examples in this map like 01:25:125 (3,5) - 01:27:747 (5,7) - 01:55:707 (1,3) - idk picked random examples, some may look okay but generally its a good idea to give bigger spacing between objects.
Generally I'd advise looking into pishifat videos about aesthetics and slidershapes. Hopefully this mod will not be to hard to understand since there could be language barriers.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/690966 if you've found this mod helpful, this is the mapset for m4m. If you don't have much time, just mod top and bottom diff.
Fixed all. Thanks for the mod sir! i'll mod your map in 24 hours.
tochiii
Elite Storyboarder
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sahuang
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Joined December 2014
sahuang
Mod here.

Normal
00:13:734 (1) - This is "okay" but generally, edgy and curvy sliders are not recommended in easier diffs like Normal. It is very easy for newbies to misread and have many issues with it.
00:25:734 (4,5) - The flow is not ideal imo, and the feel that 00:24:934 (3,5) - almost overlap is awkward. Suggest that you move 00:26:534 (5) - up above tail of 4 and adjust some spacings.
01:11:727 (3,4) - please improve blanket
01:12:310 (4,5) - same and there are many places the aesthetics is kinda bad, try to make them look good!
01:31:242 (4) - 1/2 slider seems better as it can represent all strong beats
02:07:649 (1,2) - Try not to do this in Normal. The anti-flow and spacing will be misleading for new players.
Also i'd say use 1/1 slider 02:09:105 - instead is much better.
01:51:339 (1,2) - incorrect DS

So I think it's ok but needs more aesthetics. Plus, since almost all of your rhythm is 1/2 and 1/1 spam, I would personally suggest that you rename it to easy and remove the lowest diff which is unnecessary. Easy is also messy and needs a lot of reword. It is missing many beats and thus feel uncomfortable.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles

Light Insane
00:15:534 (4,5,6) - this distance is uncomfortable and try to make intro DS consistent, maybe use 00:16:334 (6,1) - ds
01:05:320 (4) - rhythm is bad as you are not following music at all.01:05:756 - etc shouldnt be emphasised while 01:05:902 - should. Try
http://puu.sh/z790d/a91f38cee6.jpg
imo those empty parts at the beginning can be mapped a bit cuz rn it sounds too empty for me lol

Insane
00:44:350 (6) - why not use curve slider as before?
Seems ok overall, just need more polish on object aesthetics

Redemption
Use more NCs as the combo is so big now lol
01:21:630 - 01:21:921 - these should be downbeats but you are using them as stacking, which plays weird
I think you need to improve a lot on aesthetics. While the map has no unrankable issue, it has a lot of random spacing jumps as well as messy slider/circle combinations.
e.g. 00:54:252 (8,9,10,11) - i feel the spacing is suddenly increasing too fast and it's not expected
00:57:747 (4,5) - try similar shape
00:55:125 (2,4) - 01:09:397 (3,6) - etc kind of random overlaps
01:26:582 (9,10) - judging from music its better to sue circles instead of sliders cuz downbeats
01:59:639 (9,10) - messy

Basically i agree with mardius that you can have a lot of improvements because of the aesthetics issues. Still not bad as a new mapper map but yeah, keep improving xd
zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

sahuang wrote:

Mod here.

Normal
00:13:734 (1) - This is "okay" but generally, edgy and curvy sliders are not recommended in easier diffs like Normal. It is very easy for newbies to misread and have many issues with it.
00:25:734 (4,5) - The flow is not ideal imo, and the feel that 00:24:934 (3,5) - almost overlap is awkward. Suggest that you move 00:26:534 (5) - up above tail of 4 and adjust some spacings.
01:11:727 (3,4) - please improve blanket
01:12:310 (4,5) - same and there are many places the aesthetics is kinda bad, try to make them look good!
01:31:242 (4) - 1/2 slider seems better as it can represent all strong beats
02:07:649 (1,2) - Try not to do this in Normal. The anti-flow and spacing will be misleading for new players.
Also i'd say use 1/1 slider 02:09:105 - instead is much better.
01:51:339 (1,2) - incorrect DS

So I think it's ok but needs more aesthetics. Plus, since almost all of your rhythm is 1/2 and 1/1 spam, I would personally suggest that you rename it to easy and remove the lowest diff which is unnecessary. Easy is also messy and needs a lot of reword. It is missing many beats and thus feel uncomfortable.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles

Light Insane
00:15:534 (4,5,6) - this distance is uncomfortable and try to make intro DS consistent, maybe use 00:16:334 (6,1) - ds
01:05:320 (4) - rhythm is bad as you are not following music at all.01:05:756 - etc shouldnt be emphasised while 01:05:902 - should. Try
http://puu.sh/z790d/a91f38cee6.jpg
imo those empty parts at the beginning can be mapped a bit cuz rn it sounds too empty for me lol

Insane
00:44:350 (6) - why not use curve slider as before?
Seems ok overall, just need more polish on object aesthetics

Redemption
Use more NCs as the combo is so big now lol
01:21:630 - 01:21:921 - these should be downbeats but you are using them as stacking, which plays weird
I think you need to improve a lot on aesthetics. While the map has no unrankable issue, it has a lot of random spacing jumps as well as messy slider/circle combinations.
e.g. 00:54:252 (8,9,10,11) - i feel the spacing is suddenly increasing too fast and it's not expected
00:57:747 (4,5) - try similar shape
00:55:125 (2,4) - 01:09:397 (3,6) - etc kind of random overlaps
01:26:582 (9,10) - judging from music its better to sue circles instead of sliders cuz downbeats
01:59:639 (9,10) - messy

Basically i agree with mardius that you can have a lot of improvements because of the aesthetics issues. Still not bad as a new mapper map but yeah, keep improving xd
fixed all i guess?
victorfernando
292 posts
Joined October 2016
victorfernando

sahuang wrote:

Mod here.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles
fixed all thanks!
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Okoayu
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YukiZura- wrote:

q

[Redemption]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu fixed
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes changed the rhythm so dont need
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example fixed

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) - fixed
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation fixed
like this for example
00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition fixed
01:51:047 (3) - no sound :( fixed

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle it sound better with whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here? sure
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this not going for blankets here
insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol .. it is because im trying emphasize drum there
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls fixed
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player fixed

ok that's all ><
goodluck

Djulus wrote:

last
00:39:334 (1) - nc no its okay without nc
00:40:999 (2,3) - stacking on 1/4 so weirdly imo looks okay to me
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - that part needs more ds cuz this pattern looks weird imo fixed
02:13:474 (11) - nc fixed
02:13:620 (1) - it would be better if you put spinnner on blue tick no vocal im emphasizing starts from on redtick
insane
00:54:252 (6,8) - what about unstack 00:54:398 (7,9) - and pls nerf ds, too far for insane sound is enough strong to be emphasized that far on this part
00:58:621 (5,6) - same with ds sound is enough strong to be emphasized that far on this part
01:19:592 (6) - replace this circle on left side for better flow cuz ds looks weirdly sure
01:54:250 (4) - same with ds no ds feels okay
verY
01:43:183 (1,2) - what with ds,its should be better if you do for this same ds like 01:47:843 (1,2) - (i mean you should fix ds on slow part cuz looks weirdly for me) fixed
01:51:775 (2,3) - idk but you should fix ds uwu. fixed
nice diff btw
normal
00:21:934 (3,4) - fix ds fixed
this diff needs more aesthetics patterns not a just 1/4 jumps for example use some 1/2 sliders
easy
clean

Namki wrote:

[Redemption]
  1. 00:04:534 - / 00:05:734 - / 00:06:334 - / etc - they're giving too much feedback to player but there's no even a sound. I suggest you to silence sliderends. its better without silencing them imo
  2. 00:30:334 (4) - you are undermapping vocals right now, by judging the entire section I could say that you're prioritizing vocals over instrumentals and sometimes when vocals end you map according to instrumental. It's decent rhythm choice but this certain pattern breaks this idea. Consider replacing it with a circle on red tick and a 1/2 slider on white tick. fixed
  3. 00:40:999 (2,3) - pretty emphasis lacking pattern. 00:41:290 - music here is quite prominent for being understacked with a slider. Something like that would fit. fixed
  4. 00:43:038 (10) - don't you think it's too way prominent to have it that unemphasized? This sound is outstading and spacing should be so. Consider making spacing bigger for better emphasis. fixed
  5. 00:44:349 (5,6) - stack isn't something good to play here, you stop cursor movement and also it goes sorta inconsistent. fixed
  6. 00:54:252 (9,10,11,12) - music kinda changes here, bigger spacing for better emphasis? sure
  7. 00:57:601 (2,3,4) - spacing looks pretty illogical. 00:57:747 - it has more prominent sound under than this 00:57:892 - so the first circle should've spaced more than the second. fixed
  8. 01:21:922 (2,1,2,1) - flow is really uncomfortable here. Angle suddenly becomes too wide here 01:22:067 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - and it makes little sense as well. There are no sounds to change flow angle in this way. Consider making angle less wide, you can do it simply move this circle 01:22:212 (2) - somewhere down this circle 01:21:922 (2) - . Furthermore, if you make that jump bigger it would emphasize music better. For instance, https://namki.s-ul.eu/F0MKmd2D.jpg . remapped this section
  9. Okay, I will summarize my main concern for this diff. It's spacing emphasis. As I said earlier, map lacks it. Also, your map is pretty "generic" as they say so logic here is something about "more prominent sound - more spacing" and sometimes you are following this logic but sometimes you do not. Try to make it more consistent. Some examples: 01:23:815 (6) - it's like the peak of measure and beat is kinda audible, 01:25:417 (5) - too prominent for being stacked, 01:30:951 (4,5,6,7) - the same, 01:53:669 (3,4) - the same (but some stackes are perfectly fitting, I only pointed out these which had prominent sound on the second circle), etc. I think you've got my idea. remapped whole kiai
  10. 01:26:582 (5,6) - I'm quite satisfied with this one but you may like to follow 1/2 here, instead. Because these sound are kinda outstanding and they appear like only one time per part, so. Arguable. Try to recieve feedback on this. okay i will
  11. 01:41:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that's soooo inaudible. Mind explaining what are you following there? remapped this section
  12. 01:45:441 (6,7) - minor. Maybe try to avoid overlap? fixed
  13. 01:51:047 (3) - this circle makes no sense at all. There's no music so I assume you were following vocals but how about this 01:51:193 - it has vocals, too! Consider either deleting this circle or add one more at 01:51:193 - . fixed
[Insane]
  1. Okay, I've pointed that quite few but 00:43:039 (1) - this sounds pretty weird, having such strong sound understacked isn't the best way of emphasizing things. The soulution would be simply unstack and make jump to that prominent sound. alright
  2. 00:45:514 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - nice triangles but they kinda cover theirselves and it goes visually unpleasant. Consider just placing it a bit right every time new triangle appear. Like that https://namki.s-ul.eu/52alsRvY.jpg nah id reather with this pattern it looks clean without moving them that way
  3. 00:47:407 - it defenitely has kinda audible sound. ok fixed
  4. And as I've pointed again 00:48:282 (2) - density is starting to rise and having small spacing makes little sense. If you had spacing acceleration fixed
  5. 01:01:242 (6,7,8,9) - it would be spacing-wise correct to make it that way because each of 01:01:387 (7,8,9) - have the same sound and the different one is 01:01:242 - . ok fixed
  6. 01:15:223 (2,3,4,5,1) - you are decelerating spacing which doesn't make sense at all, I agree with bigger spacing here 01:15:223 (2,3) - because of snare but 01:15:806 (1) - defenitely needs more spacing. Alright, I will not write just timestamps with "bigger spacing due to prominency" or "less spacing because of weakness". Will point out few patterns and you'll decide if you find my point of view correct. 01:20:465 - bigger due to prominency, 01:24:834 - the same, 01:53:376 (5,6) - bigger spacing because of vocals and less spacing makes little sense as music didn't become less strong, etc. You've got what I mean.fixed
  7. 01:22:359 (8) - NC because of other instrument is introduced. yeah
  8. 01:51:339 (1,3) - minor. It's overlapping just by one pixel, move it pleease?sure
[Very Hard]
  1. If higher difficulties were finу with NC here I recommend you to place NC every new measure, it's quite hard to deal with combo of 8 in Hard.
  2. 01:16:095 (2) - rhythm seems weird. Vocals are 1/2 as well as instrumentals, consider replacing with two 1/2 sliders.
  3. Spacing to 01:16:678 (3) - is too way small, you had 1.7x with 1/2 gap but this one looks like 1/2 pattern instead of 1/1. So, ye, bigger spacing for sure.
  4. 01:18:718 - mhm, this sudden rhythm change isn't really a good idea, try to fill this with objects. Also, spacing there as for 1/2 gap but you have there 3/4 gap.
  5. 01:24:834 (1,2) - switch NC. Also, they seem to correalte with each other but music is too different. Try differen slidershapes or angles.
  6. 01:50:319 (1) - you express this piano in the same way as 01:47:843 (1) - / 01:48:717 (1) - / etc. - so this rhythm-wise lacking, try just 3 circles with something about 1.2x spacing, istead.
  7. The rhythm in kiai is something I disagree with. So, why is this kiai? Because it's a chrous and it's music apogee but rhythm is undermapping both vocals and intrumentals also rhythms have too way little density. Also, spacing is even smaller than in non-kiai parts. I highly recommend you to reconsider kiai part fully with dense enough patterns and with logical spacing. dif is remapped into light insane


[Normal]
  1. I am not really sure if this recover time is enough 01:01:970 (1) - for 206 bpm. it is enough
  2. 01:20:466 (1,2) - and 01:47:261 (3,1) - stacks appear only twice per diff. It's really better to remove them as they do not go consistently so it's hard to handle with sudden stacks.sure
gl~



_Meep_ wrote:

From Meep's Love Live Modding Queue!
redemption
00:16:934 (3) - NC? ok
00:20:134 (4,1) - Swap NC and add NC on 00:21:534 (2) - ? ok
00:32:934 (1) - NC this i guess, plays and seems better. ok
00:40:854 - This parts' NCs are pretty long honestly, and it kinda looks bad imo. Look 01:04:154 - here and you can see you NCed every big white tick or notable vocal sound that introduced another part. Why not use the same NCing as the later part in the early parts of the song? The NCing in this song is really messy tbh. i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - honestly there wouldnt be any emphasis on any of them since the players would just be resting their cursors on the sliderheads ._. this would only work if they were 3/4s. fixed
01:11:145 (7) - NC this, why is the NCing different from 01:05:174 - ? i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:20:465 (6) - NC cause of loud sound i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:21:631 (2) - The jump part should start here, why is it that it starts on 01:21:485 (1) - ? Looking from 01:21:630 - the ncing pattern should also be something like fixed
01:23:815 (6) - why is this not NCed when 01:25:853 (1) - is? fixed
01:28:912 (1,2) - Swap NCs, it fits better. fixed
01:45:222 (5,6,7) - This just looks bad visually, i rather you either overlap it more, or dont overlap it at all. ok fixed
01:45:514 (7,4) - at least use the same slider fixed

insane
00:21:534 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - why is the DS changing so inconsistently here? If you want to map the increasing volume of the piano, increase the DS gradually. fixed
00:44:932 (1,2) - it's really hard to hit this 1/8 reverse slider without sliderbreaking, i strongly suggest you change this. fixed
01:10:272 (1) - this shouldnt be NCed according to how you mapped the earlier parts. ok
01:14:932 (1) - remove NC yes
01:49:008 (2,1) - this overlap ._. it looks fine
01:51:339 (1,3) - this too.. fixed
01:52:212 (4) - put the clap here instead of 01:52:358 (5) - , why would u clap to the vocals? fixed
01:59:347 (4,5,6,7) - flow is really bad here, players have to move they mouse further to the bottom left after already doing it once from 5-6, its annoying to hit and i think you should fix it. fixed
02:05:901 (5,2) - i can let this slip but u can change if u want ;/ fixed
I don't really see any consistent emphasis on notes that have claps or powerful sounds in the chorus, or actualy in the whole map. May want to look at this again and remap parts of it.

thats all for now
the spread is somewhat bad because you're going from 3* -> 3.5* -> 5* which is a pretty high jump if i do say so miyself, therefore i suggest you add in a light insane or buff the hard got new light insane dif
Cordie
67 posts
Joined February 2015
Cordie
Normal difficulty as requested. Hope it works.

zzz
oosu file format v14

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zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu
ёоо плИИС РАААААААААААНК!!!!!!!!
Kensuke
1,856 posts
Joined April 2014
Kensuke
pm req

[General]
  1. Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
    1. drum-hitclap.wav
    2. normal-hitclap.wav
    3. normal-hitclap2.wav
    I've tried checking all of these and it looks like they really have a delay. So try to cut them.
  2. it's a cut version so you might add "cut version" in tags. >:(
[Cordi's Normal]
  1. As a current Ranking Criteria states, the lowest difficult difficulty must not be above 2 stars!!
  2. 00:39:334 (4) - The lump thingy is very unrecommended because the slider path doesn't look clear enough for newbie players to understand, that could cause newbies players a confuse. Reminder this is the lowest difficulty and it should be beginner-friendly difficulty. This problem could cause newbie players a confuse. It'd be better to change the slider to plain circle slider for newbie players to understand.
  3. 00:40:854 to 00:45:514 - It is unjustified to leave the empty space here without a blank. Players could failed at this part if the players' health point is really low. Because leaving this part a blank, the health point could decrease. If the situation happened, players' health bar will slowly decrease and finally died. And there is no reason to leave this as a blank anyway so please add a break here.
  4. 01:05:902 (4) - In my perspective it will be better to flip this slider vertically and horizontally. (as known as ctrl+j and ctrl+h) Using the same slider shape as the previous slider looks sloppy and monotonous. But flipping this slider vertically and horizontally could make the slider have the variation and the flow here will look much smoother.
  5. 01:10:562 (4,2) - So try not to make the slider tail 01:10:562 (4) - overlaps with the slider tail 01:11:436 (2) -. It looks anticlimactic.
  6. 02:09:979 (1) - Making an unjustified jump in lower difficulties is strongly unacceptable here. Since it is a lowest difficulty in the mapset, the difficulty should be beginner-friendly difficulty for newbie players to play with, but this unjustified jump could be a strong unfair playing challenge for newbie players!!(just kidding lol. I know you are just forgot to reverse the slider back.)
  7. 02:13:474 (1) - Players could rarely see the slider head because the slider tail 02:12:309 (1) - is perfectly overlapping the slider head, causing an unfair reading challenge for newbie players. I'd recommend to reverse this slider so it will be easier for players to see.
Pretty neat!

[Victor's Hard]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - Making the flow back and forth could be sloppy and repetitive. I'd be better to move the hitcircle 00:08:134 (5) - away so it will not be boring.
  3. 00:10:534 - Since the piano plays here, this spot shouldn't be a passive notes in my perspective. You might make a pattern here like this to emphasize the piano sound.
  4. 00:10:534 (4,5,6) - This hitobjects here (as well as the following ones which in this part) has barely the difference spacing between the previous hitobjects (which have 1/1 beat gap). This could make players become confused when playing because their intuition is these hitobjects are spaced 1/1 gap, (as the previous ones are) causing 100s or misses here. So it will be better to decrease the spacing here, making them overlapped to one another is recommended, so players will not be confused with this.
  5. 00:21:734 - This part is totally have no sound, (or if it is, the sound here clearly has much less intense than the following sound) this spot shouldn't have an active hitobject starts here. Consider start the slider at 00:21:934 - instead.
  6. 00:34:934 (4,5) - I don't really understand the point you make these hitobjects stacked each other, since these piano sounds here are very dominant and the pitch is really high. Consider spacing them to represent the intense of the piano sounds.
  7. 00:50:174 - The sound here is pretty dominant. It shouldn't be only a slider end. :(
  8. 01:24:252 (5,1) - The spacing here could trigger the players. Players' intuition will think that they are spaced 1/2 beat gap, causing a miss here. So it will be better to move the circle 01:24:834 (1) - away to avoid having an unfair reading problem for players.
  9. 01:47:844- This part here is very intense. It shouldn't have used soft sampleset hitsounds tho. Using normal sampleset would be more appropriate with the intensity of this part.
This difficulty has some problems about how to place the hitobjects according to the song's rhythm (it's like the dominant sounds always be passive notes like slider ends or slider reverses) and the new combo placement. I think it could be improved. :|

will continue modding!
zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

- Frontier - wrote:

pm req

[General]
  1. Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
    1. drum-hitclap.wav
    2. normal-hitclap.wav
    3. normal-hitclap2.wav
    I've tried checking all of these and it looks like they really have a delay. So try to cut them. deleted
  2. it's a cut version so you might add "cut version" in tags. >:( added
Cordie
67 posts
Joined February 2015
Cordie

- Frontier - wrote:

pm req

[Cordi's Normal]
  1. As a current Ranking Criteria states, the lowest difficult difficulty must not be above 2 stars!! I thought that only applied to mania. Anyways sacrificed the circles at 01:08:232 (3,4) - into a slider. Also replaced the slider 01:03:572 (3) - with a circle to leave some breathing room, since this section continues too long. Now it sits at 2.00.
  2. 00:39:334 (4) - The lump thingy is very unrecommended because the slider path doesn't look clear enough for newbie players to understand, that could cause newbies players a confuse. Reminder this is the lowest difficulty and it should be beginner-friendly difficulty. This problem could cause newbie players a confuse. It'd be better to change the slider to plain circle slider for newbie players to understand. right, made it more straight
  3. 00:40:854 to 00:45:514 - It is unjustified to leave the empty space here without a blank. Players could failed at this part if the players' health point is really low. Because leaving this part a blank, the health point could decrease. If the situation happened, players' health bar will slowly decrease and finally died. And there is no reason to leave this as a blank anyway so please add a break here. added a break
  4. 01:05:902 (4) - In my perspective it will be better to flip this slider vertically and horizontally. (as known as ctrl+j and ctrl+h) Using the same slider shape as the previous slider looks sloppy and monotonous. But flipping this slider vertically and horizontally could make the slider have the variation and the flow here will look much smoother. right
  5. 01:10:562 (4,2) - So try not to make the slider tail 01:10:562 (4) - overlaps with the slider tail 01:11:436 (2) -. It looks anticlimactic. okay
  6. 02:09:979 (1) - Making an unjustified jump in lower difficulties is strongly unacceptable here. Since it is a lowest difficulty in the mapset, the difficulty should be beginner-friendly difficulty for newbie players to play with, but this unjustified jump could be a strong unfair playing challenge for newbie players!!(just kidding lol. I know you are just forgot to reverse the slider back.) Or maybe, I did it intentionally to bait modders..
  7. 02:13:474 (1) - Players could rarely see the slider head because the slider tail 02:12:309 (1) - is perfectly overlapping the slider head, causing an unfair reading challenge for newbie players. I'd recommend to reverse this slider so it will be easier for players to see. done
Thanks for the feedback!

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osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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GridSize: 16
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Title:Nevereverland
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Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Cordi's Normal
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Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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lit120
3,272 posts
Joined August 2013
lit120
saw the highest diff only + new mapper who mapped that

not bad for a new mapper like u xd

guess i can toss some stars since this is about to qualified xd
zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

lit120 wrote:

saw the highest diff only + new mapper who mapped that

not bad for a new mapper like u xd

guess i can toss some stars since this is about to qualified xd
すき です !! ( •̀ω•́ )
victorfernando
292 posts
Joined October 2016
victorfernando

- Frontier - wrote:

Victor's Hard
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - Making the flow back and forth could be sloppy and repetitive. I'd be better to move the hitcircle 00:08:134 (5) - away so it will not be boring.
  3. 00:10:534 - Since the piano plays here, this spot shouldn't be a passive notes in my perspective. You might make a pattern here like this to emphasize the piano sound.
  4. 00:10:534 (4,5,6) - This hitobjects here (as well as the following ones which in this part) has barely the difference spacing between the previous hitobjects (which have 1/1 beat gap). This could make players become confused when playing because their intuition is these hitobjects are spaced 1/1 gap, (as the previous ones are) causing 100s or misses here. So it will be better to decrease the spacing here, making them overlapped to one another is recommended, so players will not be confused with this.
  5. 00:21:734 - This part is totally have no sound, (or if it is, the sound here clearly has much less intense than the following sound) this spot shouldn't have an active hitobject starts here. Consider start the slider at 00:21:934 - instead.
  6. 00:34:934 (4,5) - I don't really understand the point you make these hitobjects stacked each other, since these piano sounds here are very dominant and the pitch is really high. Consider spacing them to represent the intense of the piano sounds.
  7. 00:50:174 - The sound here is pretty dominant. It shouldn't be only a slider end. :(
  8. 01:24:252 (5,1) - The spacing here could trigger the players. Players' intuition will think that they are spaced 1/2 beat gap, causing a miss here. So it will be better to move the circle 01:24:834 (1) - away to avoid having an unfair reading problem for players.
  9. 01:47:844- This part here is very intense. It shouldn't have used soft sampleset hitsounds tho. Using normal sampleset would be more appropriate with the intensity of this part.
This difficulty has some problems about how to place the hitobjects according to the song's rhythm (it's like the dominant sounds always be passive notes like slider ends or slider reverses) and the new combo placement. I think it could be improved. :|

will continue modding!

fixed all
diff
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nevereverland.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 130416,160271,185609,258571
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Victor's Hard
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
BeatmapID:1387197
BeatmapSetID:621438

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:5.6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,41054,44632
2,91587,106944
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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160,296,68523,2,0,L|176:224,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,192,68815,6,0,B|168:216|168:216|240:208,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,168,69252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,168,69397,2,0,P|320:112|304:56,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,32,69834,2,0,B|184:8|184:56|112:16,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,80,70271,2,0,B|64:200,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,264,70708,5,0,0:0:0:0:
112,264,70853,2,0,L|96:328,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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304,288,72019,5,8,0:0:0:0:
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456,224,72455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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304,112,73184,2,0,P|296:152|304:184,1,55,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,248,73475,2,0,P|245:261|192:240,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,160,73912,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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112,64,77261,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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352,88,87019,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,280,87455,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87601,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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400,48,89640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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168,304,90951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
168,304,91096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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296,224,108280,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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304,120,110319,5,2,0:0:0:0:
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216,168,112067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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384,152,112795,5,8,0:0:0:0:
320,80,112940,2,0,P|272:96|192:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113377,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113523,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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136,152,114105,6,0,B|112:208|160:208|120:288,1,121.000003692627,0|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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200,320,114834,1,0,0:0:0:0:
263,271,114979,2,0,L|260:197,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
335,124,115271,2,0,L|342:247,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,316,115707,6,0,P|417:322|447:313,1,60.5000018463135,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
477,242,115999,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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374,48,116436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116581,6,0,B|326:64|326:64|246:32,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,21,117018,2,0,L|117:45,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117309,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117455,2,0,B|85:155|85:155|56:239,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,298,117892,5,2,0:0:0:0:
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206,255,118329,2,0,L|278:253,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,185,118766,2,0,P|145:105|177:57,1,121.000003692627,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,40,119203,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,93,119348,2,0,L|389:85,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119785,6,0,B|448:200|448:200|424:272,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,304,120222,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,256,120368,2,0,L|224:248,3,30.2500009231568,0|0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,248,120659,2,0,L|128:240,1,60.5000018463135,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,296,120950,1,8,0:0:0:0:
40,224,121096,2,0,L|48:88,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,48,121533,6,0,L|128:128,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,192,121824,2,0,L|208:120,1,60.5000018463135
272,72,122115,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,72,122261,2,0,B|336:88|336:88|408:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
459,116,122698,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,202,122843,2,0,P|384:153|394:61,1,181.500005538941,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,8,123426,5,2,0:0:0:0:
272,72,123572,2,0,L|144:56,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,120,124008,2,0,B|104:176|104:176|80:240,1,121.000003692627,4|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124445,1,8,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124591,2,0,P|75:323|128:312,1,60.5000018463135
176,272,124882,2,0,P|240:256|304:288,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,240,125319,6,0,P|363:204|376:160,1,60.5000018463135,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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360,104,125902,2,0,B|326:100|326:100|288:112,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,144,126193,2,0,L|216:224,1,60.5000018463135,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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424,284,127212,5,2,0:0:0:0:
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287,69,130271,2,0,B|231:77|231:77|167:45,1,121.000003692627,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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237,232,134639,1,6,0:2:0:0:
Kensuke
1,856 posts
Joined April 2014
Kensuke
2

General #2
  1. I've just noticed that the combo color 1 and combo color 3 has barely difference in terms of the color. Try to make the color combo 3 become more different so players could identify more between those.
[Light Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:29:634 - Since you've mapped follow piano sound, I think this should be mapped also.
  3. 00:38:934 - I think this spot shouldn't add finish sound here, since there is no any cymbal sound here.
  4. 00:49:009 (5) - Using only one hold reverse slider might feel tedious for players to play. You might add more reverse slider like this, so it will not become too boring to play. As same as 02:00:076 (5) -.
  5. 01:05:174 - Both of the instrumental sound and vocal sound here is pretty dominant. I'd recommend to add a hitobject at this spot to represent the sound better rather than just leaving it as a blank. As same as 01:09:834 -.
  6. 01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are spaced pretty near to one another. It looks very anticlimactic and the aesthetics here is very unpleasant looking. I'd recommend to spaced these further like how you did previously.
  7. 01:47:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Using plain claps here doesn't fit with the song's rhythm and intensity at all. Try to copy how Starset managed with the hitsound in this part.
  8. 01:52:941 (2,3,4,5) - In my first glance, my intuition is these are formed as a perfectly hexagonal pattern, but when I looked over and over again, I noticed that these aren't formed perfectly. So you'd better try to make these formed perfectly hexagonal shape by using Rotate Settings.
  9. 02:14:639 - This spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.
[Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:23:934 (2,4) - After I looked at these slider repetitively, I noticed that the slider tail 00:23:934 (2) - isn't actually perfectly blanketed by the slider body 00:24:734 (4) -. In order to make the blanket here become perfect, move the slider 00:24:734 (4) - to x:409 y:75, creating nice aesthetically pleasant looking.
  3. 00:37:534 (1) - The slider flow here is pretty bad. ;(
  4. 01:27:165 (1,2,3) - This part has exactly the same rhythm as 01:22:796 (1,2,3) -, but why they are mapped differently? Consider making them the same.
  5. 01:43:037 - This spot here has an audible sound. You shouldn't miss it. Consider mapping this part. As same as 01:43:110 -, 01:45:440 -.
  6. 01:47:844 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - It'd be better to change these hitobjects to plain circles with big jumps, to emphasize the intensity of this part here.
  7. 02:05:901 (5,2) - Because the slider 02:05:901 (5) - hasn't fully disappeared while the circle 02:06:338 (2) - is appearing, it appears that the slider body 02:05:901 (5) - overlaps with the circle 02:06:339 (2) -, creating an pleasant aesthetically looking here. It'd be better to move the circle 02:06:339 (2) - away from the slider 02:05:902 (5) - until they don't overlap each other, and it will creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.
  8. 02:14:347 (3) - As I mentioned in the previous difficulty, this spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.
[Starset's Extra]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:07:334 (1,2) - Because of an editor error, the slider tail 00:08:534 (2) - isn't perfectly stacked with the slider head 00:07:334 (1) -. Consider moving the slider 00:08:534 (2) - one pixel downwards and rightwards. (or x:352 y:342) So these sliders will be perfectly stacked, creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.
[-Tochi's Extra]
  1. 00:38:934 (4) - Because the previous sliders are 1/2 beat, it might be better to add a new combo here, to indicate players for the transition.
  2. 01:22:795 (1) - The slider tail's sound here is pretty irritating to listen. I'd recommend to add a 5% volume inherited point (green line) here to silence the slider tail sound. As same as the rest in this part if you agree with this suggestion I suggest.
  3. 02:14:639 (1) - This spot is very intense, it'd be better to add a finish hitsound here.
I'm not gonna mod top difficulty tho.
In conclusion, I think this map needs some more room for improvements. (especially the owner's difficulties) The GD's extras were pretty good in my perspective tho.
Good luck~
zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

- Frontier - wrote:

2

General #2
  1. I've just noticed that the combo color 1 and combo color 3 has barely difference in terms of the color. Try to make the color combo 3 become more different so players could identify more between those.
fixed

[Light Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:29:634 - Since you've mapped follow piano sound, I think this should be mapped also. fixed
  3. 00:38:934 - I think this spot shouldn't add finish sound here, since there is no any cymbal sound here. fixed
  4. 00:49:009 (5) - Using only one hold reverse slider might feel tedious for players to play. You might add more reverse slider like this, so it will not become too boring to play. As same as 02:00:076 (5) -. 00:49:009 (5) -
  5. 01:05:174 - Both of the instrumental sound and vocal sound here is pretty dominant. I'd recommend to add a hitobject at this spot to represent the sound better rather than just leaving it as a blank. As same as 01:09:834 -. im trying emphasize synth here so rather stick with current rhythms
  6. 01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are spaced pretty near to one another. It looks very anticlimactic and the aesthetics here is very unpleasant looking. I'd recommend to spaced these further like how you did previously. fixed
  7. 01:47:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Using plain claps here doesn't fit with the song's rhythm and intensity at all. Try to copy how Starset managed with the hitsound in this part. fixed
  8. 01:52:941 (2,3,4,5) - In my first glance, my intuition is these are formed as a perfectly hexagonal pattern, but when I looked over and over again, I noticed that these aren't formed perfectly. So you'd better try to make these formed perfectly hexagonal shape by using Rotate Settings. fixed
  9. 02:14:639 - This spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.fixed
[Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:23:934 (2,4) - After I looked at these slider repetitively, I noticed that the slider tail 00:23:934 (2) - isn't actually perfectly blanketed by the slider body 00:24:734 (4) -. In order to make the blanket here become perfect, move the slider 00:24:734 (4) - to x:409 y:75, creating nice aesthetically pleasant looking. fixed
  3. 00:37:534 (1) - The slider flow here is pretty bad. ;( flow here is not that bad
  4. 01:27:165 (1,2,3) - This part has exactly the same rhythm as 01:22:796 (1,2,3) -, but why they are mapped differently? Consider making them the same. fixed
  5. 01:43:037 - This spot here has an audible sound. You shouldn't miss it. Consider mapping this part. As same as 01:43:110 -, 01:45:440 -. fixed
  6. 01:47:844 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - It'd be better to change these hitobjects to plain circles with big jumps, to emphasize the intensity of this part here. fixed
  7. 02:05:901 (5,2) - Because the slider 02:05:901 (5) - hasn't fully disappeared while the circle 02:06:338 (2) - is appearing, it appears that the slider body 02:05:901 (5) - overlaps with the circle 02:06:339 (2) -, creating an pleasant aesthetically looking here. It'd be better to move the circle 02:06:339 (2) - away from the slider 02:05:902 (5) - until they don't overlap each other, and it will creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here. fixed
  8. 02:14:347 (3) - As I mentioned in the previous difficulty, this spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better. fixed
I'm not gonna mod top difficulty tho. why though
In conclusion, I think this map needs some more room for improvements. (especially the owner's difficulties) The GD's extras were pretty good in my perspective tho.
Good luck~
Starset
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Joined April 2015
Starset

- Frontier - wrote:

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[Starset's Extra]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:07:334 (1,2) - Because of an editor error, the slider tail 00:08:534 (2) - isn't perfectly stacked with the slider head 00:07:334 (1) -. Consider moving the slider 00:08:534 (2) - one pixel downwards and rightwards. (or x:352 y:342) So these sliders will be perfectly stacked, creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.
fixed

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Starset's Extra
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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tochiii
Elite Storyboarder
1,444 posts
Joined November 2013
tochiii

- Frontier - wrote:

[-Tochi's Extra]
  1. 00:38:934 (4) - Because the previous sliders are 1/2 beat, it might be better to add a new combo here, to indicate players for the transition. fixed
  2. 01:22:795 (1) - The slider tail's sound here is pretty irritating to listen. I'd recommend to add a 5% volume inherited point (green line) here to silence the slider tail sound. As same as the rest in this part if you agree with this suggestion I suggest. fixed!
  3. 02:14:639 (1) - This spot is very intense, it'd be better to add a finish hitsound here. fixed!
thanks for the mod!
here's the update
.osu
osu file format v14

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Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:-Tochi's Redemption
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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Garden
osu! Alumni
1,345 posts
Joined June 2013
Garden
mod as promised long ago

General
  1. delete nevereverlandCordi's Easy100BPM.mp3, also fix artist and tag in Cordi's diff
  2. only top diff is allowed to use custom diff name, even if it's 0.00000001 sr difference
  3. 01:47:843 - need a redline with 3/4 time signature
  4. apparently Nifty mapped 3 difficulties and contributed most drain time in the mapset, this can be an unrankable issue (mapset creator should contribute most)
  5. not sure what happened to hitsounding but there are no hitsounds for sampleset 1, 2, 4
Cordi's Normal
  1. 00:39:334 (4) - you should snap the tail to the red line, so maybe use a spinner instead? also don't forget hitsounding on the tail if you insist on slider
  2. 01:06:485 (5,1) - 01:11:145 (1,2) - should be same comboing pattern i suppose
  3. 01:21:193 (2,3) - why is stack usage here inconsistent from the rest?
  4. 01:28:912 (4,1) - ^ also unstacking for emphasize makes more sense to me
  5. 02:02:698 (4,1) - 01:59:203 (2,3) - ^
Victor's Hard
  1. 00:13:734 - 20% volume? now it seems lacking feedback
  2. 01:04:154 - 01:13:475 - 01:20:465 - etc. normal/soft addition finish would sound great here
  3. 01:29:203 - only this one downbeat is mapped with reversed slider, I suggest u also make it clickable
  4. 01:47:844 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 100% is too loud :o
  5. 01:52:504 (4,1,2) - unintentional spacing inconsistency? you seem to follow a consistent value most of the time
  6. 01:59:639 (7,1) - weird that you followed 01:59:785 - but ignored 02:02:989 - , please either emphasize vocal or the downbeat
  7. 02:00:659 (4) - nc? actually i can't figure out how you did nc, some explanation would be good :c
Light Insane
  1. why is od even lower than hard
  2. 00:23:134 (7,1) - use 1.8x like 00:22:534 (4,5,6,7) - for visual consistency
  3. 00:52:504 - 00:54:834 - 02:00:659 - finish maybe
  4. 01:04:154 (1,2,3) - same or similar rhythm as 01:05:320 (4,5,6,7) - follows vocal better
  5. 01:06:485 (1) - use https://puu.sh/zmDRo/f4565494ac.png rhythm for vocal?
  6. 01:09:687 (3) - maybe use 1/2 slider, for same reason above
  7. 01:56:872 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:56:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - the visual inconsistency is triggering me so hard
  8. 02:01:824 (1,2) - ctrl-g flows better, also for 02:01:824 (1,2,3,4) - etc. I really suggest you do some neat polygon mapping like 01:51:776 (2,3,4,5,1) - , the visual spacings are just random
  9. 02:10:415 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ds mapping light insane is fine but you should pay attention to spaciiing, they are sometimes way too off :c
Insane
  1. 00:39:434 (1) - why doesn't it end at 00:40:854 - ?
  2. 00:40:854 - to 01:31:533 - and kiai: no hitsounding
  3. 01:10:562 (3,4) - spacing is noticeably off, I suppose it should be 1.2x like 01:10:271 (1,2,3) -
    ok there are similar problems to light insane so i'm not gonna point them out in detail, rhythms are good in general but visual spacings and flows between patterns can definitely be improved
Starset's Ex
  1. 00:26:134 (7,8,1) - even spacing looks better i guess
  2. 02:05:028 - 02:05:319 - missing hitsounds
-Tochi's Ex
  1. 00:00:884 (1,2) - 00:07:284 (1,2) - if you decide to map them as 1/8 then 00:04:134 (1,2,3) - snapping should be modified as well cuz 1/4 sounds noticeably off
  2. 01:00:951 (3) - nc maybe, 1212 looks better in terms of visual
  3. 01:41:872 (5) - wrong snap?
good luck!
Starset
652 posts
Joined April 2015
Starset

Garden wrote:

Starset's Ex
  1. 00:26:134 (7,8,1) - even spacing looks better i guess
  2. 02:05:028 - 02:05:319 - missing hitsounds
good luck!
fixed

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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Source:
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victorfernando
292 posts
Joined October 2016
victorfernando

Garden wrote:

Victor's Hard
  1. 00:13:734 - 20% volume? now it seems lacking feedback (Okay changed to 20%)
  2. 01:04:154 - 01:13:475 - 01:20:465 - etc. normal/soft addition finish would sound great here (added)
  3. 01:29:203 - only this one downbeat is mapped with reversed slider, I suggest u also make it clickable (changed for slider)
  4. 01:47:844 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 100% is too loud :o Now it's 50%
  5. 01:52:504 (4,1,2) - unintentional spacing inconsistency? you seem to follow a consistent value most of the time (Fixed)
  6. 01:59:639 (7,1) - weird that you followed 01:59:785 - but ignored 02:02:989 - , please either emphasize vocal or the downbeat (Okay)
  7. 02:00:659 (4) - nc? actually i can't figure out how you did nc, some explanation would be good :c (changed my nc thing, i put nc every high tick white)
Thanks for mod!
DIFFU
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Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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tochiii
Elite Storyboarder
1,444 posts
Joined November 2013
tochiii

Garden wrote:

-Tochi's Ex
  1. 00:00:884 (1,2) - 00:07:284 (1,2) - if you decide to map them as 1/8 then 00:04:134 (1,2,3) - snapping should be modified as well cuz 1/4 sounds noticeably off fixed!
  2. 01:00:951 (3) - nc maybe, 1212 looks better in terms of visual fixed!
  3. 01:41:872 (5) - wrong snap? the end yes, but i like prefer to put a slider here cus it gives an unique addition/emphasis to the piano, tho i muted the sliderend
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Cordie
67 posts
Joined February 2015
Cordie

Garden wrote:

Cordi's Normal
  1. 00:39:334 (4) - you should snap the tail to the red line, so maybe use a spinner instead? also don't forget hitsounding on the tail if you insist on slider spinner it is
  2. 01:06:485 (5,1) - 01:11:145 (1,2) - should be same comboing pattern i suppose ofc
  3. 01:21:193 (2,3) - why is stack usage here inconsistent from the rest? It's the end of the verse, small variance here won't hurt, I think.
  4. 01:28:912 (4,1) - ^ also unstacking for emphasize makes more sense to me yep
  5. 02:02:698 (4,1) - 01:59:203 (2,3) - ^ unstacked the latter
Thanks!

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411,113,126193,2,0,L|408:196,1,80,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
453,277,126775,1,2,0:0:0:0:
356,273,127067,2,0,L|269:268,1,80,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,348,127649,6,0,P|242:270|227:192,1,160,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,108,128523,1,0,0:0:0:0:
181,108,128814,2,0,L|93:102,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
54,186,129397,2,0,L|133:191,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
217,236,129979,6,0,P|245:207|282:196,2,80,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,291,130853,1,8,0:0:0:0:
374,236,131144,2,0,P|382:200|374:158,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
306,88,131727,1,2,0:0:0:0:
215,121,132018,1,8,0:0:0:0:
121,100,132309,6,0,L|135:259,1,160,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
146,355,133183,1,8,0:0:0:0:
231,310,133474,6,0,P|238:183|135:259,1,320,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

Garden wrote:

mod as promised long ago

General
  1. delete nevereverlandCordi's Easy100BPM.mp3, also fix artist and tag in Cordi's diff fixed
  2. only top diff is allowed to use custom diff name, even if it's 0.00000001 sr difference not sure about this one
  3. 01:47:843 - need a redline with 3/4 time signature thats not really necessary also adding that causes problem on taiko dif
  4. apparently Nifty mapped 3 difficulties and contributed most drain time in the mapset, this can be an unrankable issue (mapset creator should contribute most) fixed
  5. not sure what happened to hitsounding but there are no hitsounds for sampleset 1, 2, 4
fixed

Light Insane
  1. why is od even lower than hard fixed
  2. 00:23:134 (7,1) - use 1.8x like 00:22:534 (4,5,6,7) - for visual consistency fixed
  3. 00:52:504 - 00:54:834 - 02:00:659 - finish maybe fixed
  4. 01:04:154 (1,2,3) - same or similar rhythm as 01:05:320 (4,5,6,7) - follows vocal better emphasizing synth here so no
  5. 01:06:485 (1) - use https://puu.sh/zmDRo/f4565494ac.png rhythm for vocal? emphasizing synth here so no
  6. 01:09:687 (3) - maybe use 1/2 slider, for same reason above emphasizing synth here so no
  7. 01:56:872 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:56:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - the visual inconsistency is triggering me so hard fixed
  8. 02:01:824 (1,2) - ctrl-g flows better, also for 02:01:824 (1,2,3,4) - etc. I really suggest you do some neat polygon mapping like 01:51:776 (2,3,4,5,1) - , the visual spacings are just random fixed
  9. 02:10:415 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ds mapping light insane is fine but you should pay attention to spaciiing, they are sometimes way too off :c will keep that in mind


Insane
  1. 00:39:434 (1) - why doesn't it end at 00:40:854 - ? fixed
  2. 00:40:854 - to 01:31:533 - and kiai: no hitsounding fixed
  3. 01:10:562 (3,4) - spacing is noticeably off, I suppose it should be 1.2x like 01:10:271 (1,2,3) -
    ok there are similar problems to light insane so i'm not gonna point them out in detail, rhythms are good in general but visual spacings and flows between patterns can definitely be improved fixed
Rakuen
1,654 posts
Joined March 2013
Rakuen
some irc mods

Mod
23:42 Rakuen: hi
23:42 *zhu is away: probably dead
23:43 Rakuen: lel
23:43 zhu: give me a min im testplaying map lol
23:46 zhu: aight
23:46 zhu: im ready
23:46 Rakuen: oke~
23:47 Rakuen: mods from me are general n opinion based
23:47 Rakuen: take it easy XD
23:47 Rakuen: emm first of all
23:47 zhu: okay
23:47 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1551319 Nano - Nevereverland [Advanced]]
23:47 *zhu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1551319 Nano - Nevereverland [Advanced]]
23:47 Rakuen: u could try n use some 1/2
23:47 Rakuen: like triple circles before a slider or something
23:48 Rakuen: because it's too similar to normal
23:48 zhu: like where
23:48 zhu: lol
23:48 Rakuen: which kinda makes the diff a little bit redundant uwu"
23:49 Rakuen: for ex u can make 00:50:174 - to a circle, then put 2 more cirlces at 00:50:174 - and 00:50:611 -
23:49 Rakuen: just an example, i think u get my idea ;3
23:50 zhu: no i dont
23:50 zhu: lol
23:50 zhu: sorry
23:50 Rakuen: then another way of using 1/2 is u can make 01:51:338 (1) - ends in 01:51:630 - and make another slider starts at 01:51:775 - ends in 01:52:067 -
23:50 Rakuen: yea its just difficulty spread
23:50 Rakuen: if u want more beautiful spread u could always try XD but should be ok
23:51 Rakuen: and...
23:51 Rakuen: i remember u need one diff below 2.0 star
23:51 Rakuen: that means normal has to be 1.9
23:51 Rakuen: if im not wrong
23:51 zhu: there were new rules
23:51 Rakuen: oo ok
23:52 Rakuen: my criteria is based on years ago
23:52 zhu: below 2.0 is removed
23:52 zhu: yeah
23:52 Rakuen: because i have no problem adapting to it so i dont recognise new ones
23:52 zhu: yeah so dont mind this
23:52 zhu: alright moving on
23:53 Rakuen: yep so about the spread in advanced diff
23:53 Rakuen: u can add more shorter sliders
23:53 Rakuen: sort of make it look like harder than normal, but easier than hard
23:53 Rakuen: and em... make sure u check the hitsound consistency before u hit BNs
23:54 Rakuen: like for ex hit>clap>hit>clap etc.
23:54 Rakuen: like in kiai part
23:54 Rakuen: should be too much difference
23:54 Rakuen: unless its the music that is changing
23:55 zhu: you noticed hitsound problems?
23:55 zhu: i gone through hitsounds like 3 times
23:55 zhu: lol
23:55 zhu: please tell if there is any
23:55 Rakuen: like for advanced, shouldnt it has clap at 01:56:290 - or 01:56:872 - ?
23:55 Rakuen: im not sure how u want it to sound it
23:55 Rakuen: 01:59:203 (2) - clap too? xD
23:56 Rakuen: like 02:02:698 (4) - too
23:56 Rakuen: hmm or u prefer no clap?
23:56 Rakuen: 02:06:193 (3) -
23:57 Rakuen: basically advanced/normal should be not problem if everything is snapped
23:58 zhu: ill consider this
23:58 zhu: yeah
23:58 zhu: about light insane i mapped with ds on till kiai
23:59 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1518022 Nano - Nevereverland [Light Insane]]
23:59 *zhu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1518022 Nano - Nevereverland [Light Insane]]
00:00 Rakuen: so for the beginning part
00:00 Rakuen: are u on vocal / piano / both?
00:00 zhu: you mean piano part?
00:00 Rakuen: yea
00:00 zhu: both
00:00 Rakuen: before the first spinner
00:01 Rakuen: if u could make 00:15:134 - clickable
00:01 Rakuen: it sounds like heavy vocal part
00:01 Rakuen: making it click would play better imo xD
00:01 zhu: i emphasize piano sound there
00:02 Rakuen: i think u missed one here 00:16:534 -
00:02 zhu: same here
00:02 zhu: 00:21:334 (2) -
00:02 Rakuen: theres piano n vocal on 00:16:534 -
00:02 Rakuen: so this part 00:18:734 (3,4,5,6,1) - u emphasize vocal?
00:03 Rakuen: like 00:19:334 (5,6) -
00:03 Rakuen: because theres piano on 00:19:534 - 00:19:934 -
00:03 zhu: actually its piano
00:05 zhu: and both
00:05 zhu: i dont know
00:05 zhu: how should i explain
00:05 zhu: its mainly focused on piano
00:05 Rakuen: not a problem
00:05 Rakuen: im just making sure u know what u mapping xD
00:05 Rakuen: should be fine
00:05 Rakuen: sometimes its not mod
00:05 Rakuen: i dont wanna force u to change
00:06 zhu: i tried mapping vocal on insane
00:06 zhu: piano part
00:06 Rakuen: 00:44:713 - is there any meaning for this early start?
00:06 zhu: what?
00:07 Rakuen: mm timing
00:07 Rakuen: end of break
00:07 Rakuen: u can see a green bar on top
00:07 zhu: that part is mapped on other extras
00:07 zhu: so yeah
00:08 Rakuen: hmm..
00:08 zhu: what do you mean
00:08 zhu: lol
00:09 zhu: am i missing something?
00:09 Rakuen: https://puu.sh/zsDhb/66f3af11cc.png
00:09 Rakuen: normally a break looks like https://puu.sh/zsDir/9f340e662d.png
00:10 Rakuen: but u decided to let the break ends earlier
00:10 Rakuen: just asking, not a unrankable issue or anything
00:10 zhu: what is that
00:10 zhu: i didnt do anything to intentionally end it earlier
00:10 zhu: how to fix it
00:10 Rakuen: drag the left side of green bar to the right
00:10 Rakuen: so it becomes gray
00:10 zhu: oh that was simple
00:11 Rakuen: because its for special usage
00:11 Rakuen: for example if u want to end the break earlier
00:11 Rakuen: like at 00:44:349 -
00:11 Rakuen: so people have more time to ready
00:11 zhu: no im not
00:11 Rakuen: or if u drag the grey bar to the first spinner
00:11 zhu: it was somekind of mistake
00:11 zhu: probably
00:11 Rakuen: then the break will be removed
00:11 Rakuen: HP will be drained if theres not break
00:11 Rakuen: no break*
00:11 zhu: yeah thanks fixed
00:12 Rakuen: i think u could make 00:47:844 (1) - jump tho xD
00:12 Rakuen: since there are jumps previously
00:13 Rakuen: for 00:49:009 (5,6,7,8) -
00:13 zhu: yeah fixed
00:13 zhu: for?
00:14 Rakuen: do u think if it looks better this way? https://puu.sh/zsDqv/3dee2be0a4.png
00:14 Rakuen: its like a flow from top right to bottom left
00:15 zhu: yeah
00:15 zhu: i see
00:15 zhu: fixed
00:16 zhu: wait let me res osu
00:17 zhu: im back
00:17 Rakuen: wb
00:17 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1518022 Nano - Nevereverland [Light Insane]]
00:17 Rakuen: 02:11:580 (6) - i think theres distance problem here
00:17 *zhu is away: probably dead
00:18 Rakuen: maybe 01:58:184 (7) - too?
00:19 zhu: fixed
00:20 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1386281 Nano - Nevereverland [Insane]]
00:20 Rakuen: 00:34:734 (4) - is there anyway that this can be clicked too? uwu
00:20 *zhu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1386281 Nano - Nevereverland [Insane]]
00:20 zhu: its clickable
00:20 zhu: dude
00:20 zhu: what do you mean
00:21 Rakuen: i mean like make it 3 circles
00:21 Rakuen: hahaha
00:21 zhu: lol
00:21 zhu: oh no
00:21 zhu: then ill have make these
00:21 zhu: 3circles aswel
00:21 zhu: 00:21:934 (3,5) -
00:21 zhu: this aswel
00:21 zhu: 00:28:934 (7) -
00:21 Rakuen: its up to u xD
00:22 Rakuen: im fine if the rhythm is mapped
00:22 Rakuen: not so extreme
00:22 Rakuen: 00:39:434 (1) - snap the spinner end to the big red tick
00:22 Rakuen: slightly drag it to the right
00:23 zhu: yeah
00:23 zhu: fixed
00:26 Rakuen: think u could add one circle here 01:51:193 -
00:26 Rakuen: maybe put behind slider end of 01:50:610 (3) -
00:28 Rakuen: hmm 01:59:348 (4,5,6,7) - this rhythm sounds weird to me
00:28 Rakuen: maybe u can make it two sliders
00:28 Rakuen: one slider at 01:59:348 -
00:29 Rakuen: another at 01:59:639 - with a reverse
00:29 Rakuen: to match with vocal, and tapping for the coming stream
00:30 zhu: yeah
00:30 Rakuen: i think thats all for your mod c:
00:31 Rakuen: the other parts are pretty fine
00:31 zhu: yeah
00:31 zhu: thanks
_Epreus
660 posts
Joined October 2015
_Epreus
hi here goes a random guy modding owo

tochi's redemption
00:47:844 (1) - sound here should be emphasized but 00:47:698 (5,1) - here is too close and next 2 slider is way aparted even it doesnt have strong sound likes 1 i think. i would make pattern here likes https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10315694 this.

01:04:300 (2,3) - here should be larger since 3 has instrument sound that you emphasized by increasing distance i guess

starset's extra
00:21:134 (3,4) - I guess here is pretty spaced. even vocal at 4 is too tiny likes silent. if you did that for emphasize from piano sound. its almost same distance with 00:19:734 (4,1) - this. even 00:20:134 (1) - has higher tone and stronger sound. so id rather 00:21:334 (4) - move this to down side

00:38:934 (5) - you could use reverse arrow slider here. sice you followed piano sound 00:36:134 (1) - here.

00:43:329 (1) - unnecessary nc I guess. because instrument that you nced is too crowded 00:45:514 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - here and following all of them is nc abuse. and 00:43:184 (2,1) - combo difference here is too short.

00:46:824 (2) - nc should start here i guess? because 00:45:514 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this is 3 times repeat of one 1/2 slider + one circle but 00:46:387 (5,1) - they have different combo color even its in one form

00:49:300 (3) - not stacked perfectly 00:48:281 (3) - with this

00:58:184 (6,6,8) - can you make these to follow one flow? by likes stacking 00:58:184 (6) - this to 00:58:766 (6) - here or moving 00:59:203 (8) - this to 162,153 (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10315753 that should work like this)

01:03:572 (5,6,1) - similiar as ^. and 1 needs emphasize because its start of vocal but its stacked to 6's sliderend.

01:30:951 (1,2) - I think here is way aparted. because they dont have strong instrument sound liikes 01:31:242 (3,4) - here. but 01:30:951 (1,2) - its 2.98 and 01:31:242 (3,4) - its 2.89. slider 01:30:951 (1,2) - here can work either I think

insane
00:47:261 (4) - this should be 2 circles too i think. because drum sound exists on sliderend either

00:48:572 (4,5) - here is larger than 00:48:863 (6,1) - here but song 00:47:844 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - here is getting louder in progress of time so you can move 00:48:572 (4,5) - this to be closer with 00:48:281 (2,3) - here i think

01:20:902 (2,3) - i think here is too close. even 3 has instrument sound and 01:21:485 (4) - doesnt have instrument sound but distance 01:21:339 (3,4) - here is larger than 01:20:902 (2,3) - here

01:26:582 (6,7,8,9) - distance here should be bigger in progress of time or regular because there is drum sound getting bigger in progress of time but i think distance here is random.

01:50:609 (3) - I would use a circle here because higher diffs didnt express vocal sound on this slider and it should do either internationally

01:58:329 (1) - I think you can ctrl g for emphasize or move a bit. this has strong sound but has same distance with 01:57:746 (6,7) - this.

cordi's normal
00:45:514 (1,2,3,4) - music here goes like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10315810 this but I think notes here are placed randomly

00:53:669 (3,4,1) - pretty questionable pattern I guess. wouldnt normal diff players confuse this?

seems really nice set with good song, good luck!
zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

_Epreus wrote:

hi here goes a random guy modding owo no idea how did you find this map and even decide to mod it. i didn't even post this map on modreq channel

insane
00:47:261 (4) - this should be 2 circles too i think. because drum sound exists on sliderend either

00:48:572 (4,5) - here is larger than 00:48:863 (6,1) - here but song 00:47:844 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - here is getting louder in progress of time so you can move 00:48:572 (4,5) - this to be closer with 00:48:281 (2,3) - here i think not strong enough to be clickable imo

01:20:902 (2,3) - i think here is too close. even 3 has instrument sound and 01:21:485 (4) - doesnt have instrument sound but distance 01:21:339 (3,4) - here is larger than 01:20:902 (2,3) - here that is irrelevant imo also that blankets 00:47:844 (1) -

01:26:582 (6,7,8,9) - distance here should be bigger in progress of time or regular because there is drum sound getting bigger in progress of time but i think distance here is random. 01:26:873 (8,9) - have higher ds than 01:26:582 (6,7) -

01:50:609 (3) - I would use a circle here because higher diffs didnt express vocal sound on this slider and it should do either internationally what do you mean i am trying to emphasize piano sound here

01:58:329 (1) - I think you can ctrl g for emphasize or move a bit. this has strong sound but has same distance with 01:57:746 (6,7) - this.looks okay to me



seems really nice set with good song, good luck!
F D Flourite
811 posts
Joined March 2013
F D Flourite
Yeah it's like a month later. You decided to remove your highest diff but anyways.

Problem raised by Garden is still there: Nifty's taiko diffs last longer on drain time than your diffs. You have some breaks in and don't start from the very beginning, but Nifty just mapped everything there. So you still need to do something to make sure that you contribute the most in this set.

Will mod it after this being solved. No kd.
mancuso_JM_
osu! Alumni
4,615 posts
Joined October 2010
mancuso_JM_
Hi! Modding from my queue! It looks like you received quite a bit mods of BNs :P

First of all, I want to clarify something:

- Frontier - wrote:

  1. As a current Ranking Criteria states, the lowest difficult difficulty must not be above 2 stars!!
This is not a rule anymore, if your Normal fits as the easiest difficulty then it should be fine. We don't take care of star rating in these cases, I know you have fixed that already, but take that in mind to your future maps (or if something in my mod increases the star rating xD).

IMPORTANT!
• Normal/Hard were modded before than Garden mods. Make sure to ignore something if they were already fixed.
• From Normal to Insane: These difficulties were modded before than Rukaru's IRC mod. As I said beofre, make sure to ignore things if you've fixed them already.

I did that because I wanted to complete some other mods from my list and when I saw other mod in this thread I decided to start with new ones.

After saying that.. Let's get started!

Standard



[Codi's Normal]

Hitsounds
I'm opening this box because some hitsounds are not following the music really well, they sound just random. And in other cases, you lost the opportunity to add some good ones, I'll give all my hitsounding opinions in this box, so you can check them properly.

  1. 00:35:134 - Add a whistle in this slider end to emphasize the piano.
  2. 01:04:154 - In similar sections of the music you added whistles, Why don't you try to add it here too? You can also add a whistle in the sliderbody if you want.
  3. 01:05:902 (4) - It looks like you're following vocals in this section to place them, or at least I find it more interesting if you try to do so. This whistle at the slider beginning makes no sense because there isn't a sound in the music that justify the usage of it and it sounds random and a bit excessive for the section. Try removing it from this slider beginning.
  4. 01:08:815 (1) - 01:15:077 (4) - 01:18:135 (1) - I personally think you can add whistles in all these sliderbodies to follow those long vocal sections. Give it a try.
  5. 01:10:562 (4) - This Whistle is not necessary at this slider beginning either, same reason as before. Try to remove it.
  6. 01:15:805 (1) - This whistle is not really necessary, I recommend you to follow vocals in this section and there isn't any vocal there.
  7. 01:20:465 (1) - You can perfectly add a whistle in this slider beginning too.
  8. 01:31:242 (5) - If you're following the instrumental here, a whistle at the slider end works perfectly.

  1. 00:21:934 (2,3) - If you're trying to following the piano here, this 1/1 slider doesn't work really good. You can try other variety by using two 1/2 sliders instead.
  2. 00:26:534 (1) - This is really nitpicky, but how about curving this slider a bit? It will provide you a good blanketing with the previous slider.
  3. 02:02:989 (1,2) - You can simplify the rhythm usage here, the constant 1/1 is not helping the map to making it better. My recommendation here is to remove (2) and extend the slider till there to follow vocals closely.
- In term of composition/rhythm I found this difficulty correct. Neverthless, I think you need to adapt better those whistles to the music.

[Advanced]

  1. 00:13:734 (1,2,3) - This pattern is not following anything in the song, it sounds like a 1/1 spam only. I'd like to recommend you this pattern, that it'll follow vocals/piano much better
  2. 00:21:734 (3) - 00:34:734 (5) - Both slider should start 1/2 later to follow the music properly. Looking at the spacing with the previous notes, I suppose that was your idea because I spacing increase is not the best idea in this difficulty to be honest.
  3. 00:33:734 (3) - Move this 1/2 back to follow the piano in a better way.
  4. 01:08:815 (1) - The slider end is following in some way vocals but it doesn't play really well, you snapped it over a blue tick (1/4 tick) and the transition is not the best. Try to extend it until 01:09:688 - .
  5. 01:50:173 (4) - Move this slider 1/2 forward to follow the bells sound. In addition, I think this 1/1 slider doesn't work really well here, try to use this slider instead to follow the music closely.
- I don't feel like doing a complete mod in this difficulty because there are technical issues, especially in rhythm. I can also say that the aesthetic of this map is not the best, it looks like you mapped it quickly to don't have unrankable issues and this is not the way.
The addition of an Advanced difficulty is really good, I was going to suggest you that because the gap between Normal/Hard was bigger than I expected, but you need to add some more 1/2 objects in this difficulty, some rhythmical patterns are easier in this difficulty than in Normal.
Try to check this difficulty by yourself first and then try to find more mods to make it rankable, because in its current state I don't think you can continue with the ranking process if you don't do some big changes here.

[Victor's Hard]

  1. 01:00:077 (2,3) - First of all the distance between these objects is weird, because you used a common 1/2 spacing while it's a 1/1 spacing in timeline. In addition, I don't really know what you're trying to follow with (2) because the main sound are over white ticks, I'd use a single note + 1/1 slider instead.
  2. 00:51:921 (2,3) - The hitsounding here is not the best, the whistle at the end of the slider is not really necessary. If you want a whistle, would be better to add it in (3).
  3. 01:03:572 (8) - Try to map the downbeat in 01:04:154 - because the section change and it's weird to have this as passive mapping. Reduce this slider by 1/2 and add a note there.
  4. 01:40:853 ~ 01:47:843 - It's weird to see this section non-mapped here but in the other difficulties it is, especially in Normal and Advanced. I know that you can have this different because it's a guest difficulty but it doesn't look really well either, so, would you mind to map it?
  5. 02:13:474 (3,4) - I suppose you reduced the spacing for the sake of blanketing this pattern but it doesn't flow really well after the constant 1/2 pattern in the kiai section. Try to increase a bit the spacing between them, at least use 1.20x as you used in other 1/1 patterns.
- It doesn't play bad in general c:

[Light Insane]

  1. 00:13:734 (1,2) - This whistle at the slider end doesn't fit really well to the song, if you want a whistle, would be better to add it at (2) to follow piano.
  2. 00:47:261 (9,10) - Looking at the whole pattern, these objects with a normal spacing plays a bit weird, you can add a little jump between these as you can see in this screenshot.
  3. 00:58:329 (5) - I think you can break the combo'ing a bit here because the hitsounding change suddenly, that means you're following other thing in this section comparing it with the previous pattern. Due this reason, try to add a New Combo here.
  4. 00:59:203 (9,1,2,3) - The cursor movement between these objects is not really natural as I expected to be, especially between (2,3). I think some fixed to imporve the flow is needed here, you can take this as an example but you can use other pattern if you prefer.
  5. 01:11:873 (2) - Are you missing a clap in this slider tail? Following your hitsounding, you're using the common 2/4 beats to place caps. The same thing goes to 01:12:601 (4) - but in its slider head.
  6. 01:22:795 (1,2,3) - This pattern doesn't flow really well, you can change some shapes a bit to make this pattern more fluent. I tried something like this but you can maybe find other way, still I find this one pretty correct.
  7. 01:43:183 (1,2) - I prefer to play this pattern stacked, due the polarity change. You show players something a pattern such as 01:41:435 (3,4) - and having this unstacked is a bit weird because in both cases you have polarity changes.
  8. 01:50:465 (2) - Would you mind removing this whistle? It sounds excessive for the music, having a whistle in (1,3) is more than enough.
  9. 02:00:076 (5) - I don't find this kick slider with tones of repetition really interesting to play in this difficulty in particular. In this section you had some jumps and this kick sliders breaks a bit the flow. Try to use two kick sliders instead, doing that you'll improve the experience of this pattern and in addition you'll emphasize vocals (even if you're following drums here).
- Even if it's not the best difficulty in terms of aesthetic, it doesn't play bad in general. I suppose it has improved after the number of mods you've recieved, so I'm glad to see that in a new mapper. Good job!

[Insane]

• General

  1. First of all, I'd like to know what's happened with the hitsounding in this difficulty. As far as I can notice, it's not completed (you can check chorus for example). If you used hitosound copier, make sure to use it in this difficulty as well, if not make sure to add them manually. Btw.. you can apply hitsounding stuff mentioned in "Light Insane" in this difficulty too.
• Mapping

  1. 00:00:934 (1,2) - vs. 00:07:334 (1,2) - Hmm.. The music sounds in a similar pitch in both patterns (I know the second one needs a little bit of emphasize, listening to the music) but you decided to use a higher jump in the second pattern and a short spacing in the first one. I recommend you to increase a bit more the spacing in the first pattern, so you can emphasize better the piano.
  2. 00:04:734 (1,2,3) - Can you use a kick slider instead of these notes? I think it works better in this slow section.
  3. 00:07:334 (1) - Call me picky, but this curve doesn't look really cool. You can improve it by doing it more like this. You can do a similar thing in 00:00:934 (1) - but I prefer to don't suggest anything before you fix the pattern mentioned above.
  4. 00:10:934 (2,4) - I think you can add New Combo in these notes. Doing that, players won't have problem to read these patterns because in this section the Approach Rate is higher than it should be due the slow BPM.
  5. 00:15:534 (4,1) - Try to increase a bit more the spacing between them to emphasize the piano. You did a similar thing in 00:21:534 (2,3,4,5) - , in term of pitch are different section but if you concentrate on rhythm they are basically the same, that's why I'm not recommending you to use the same spacing.
  6. 00:19:734 (3,1) - Increase the spacing between them too. The reason is basically the same I gave you before, the piano.
  7. 00:39:434 (1) - This spinner ends is unsnapped. Check Normal/Advanced/Hard for further information.
  8. 00:41:873 (3,4,5,6) - First of all, you can improve this pattern aesthetically, then, the jump between (3,4) is a bit excessive for this section of the song. If you improve this pattern, you'll need to re-arrange a bit (5,6) as well. Take a look at my idea. You can see that I changed (4) shape, curved a bit more (5) and moved some grids (6), so you can have a better "diamond pattern" between 00:42:892 (6,7,1,2) - afterwards.
  9. 00:52:504 (1,2,3) - I improved a bit more the blanketing by curving (1,3) a bit more. I'll give you a screenshot and a code in case you want to use it.
    Screenshot + Code

    200,294,52504,6,0,P|243:303|287:293,2,90
    244,196,52941,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    321,121,53087,2,0,P|237:89|160:129,1,180
  10. 01:01:533 (8,9) - The little spacing between these objects doesn't play really weird because you've decided to use some little jumps in the current pattern, you know, generally jumps with anti-jumps patterns don't do a good job. In addition, if you listen to the music, drums sounds in a higher tone so this doesn't justify your current pattern, even if you decided to do it because aesthetically looks good. Well, after saying a lot of things, my recommendation here is to increase a bit the spacing between these objects, you can maybe place (9) where you have 01:01:242 (6) - .
  11. 01:23:378 (3,4) - The composition of this pattern looks random and sloopy. I personally think you can use something like this pattern, you have blanketing there (not really noticeable during the gameplay but still xD) and a neater pattern, you have to move some objects here and there if you decide to make this fix but this is to make the map better, I saw that some modders told you that one of the main problems are aesthetic and I'm trying to help you out with that.
  12. 01:29:786 (3,4) - You can use this composition here. The reason is basically the same I gave you in my previous suggestion.
  13. 01:45:513 (1) - *Praise* I wanted to see more things like this slider. Pretty cool! c:
  14. 02:07:358 (8) - This is the only 3/4 slider in the whole kiai and I don't find it really necessary. Why don't you try a 1/2 slider instead? Doing that, you'll keep that consistent.
  15. 02:12:892 (3,4,5,6,7) - I'd prefer to see a compressed stream (as you did in 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ) instead of this stacked pattern. Can you try it? In my opinion it provides a better effect at the end of the map.
- As you can notice in my mod, I focused in aesthetical issues, I wanted to give you some tips here and there to improve the map in this aspect. As I told you in general, take them as examples. Feel free to use similar patterns that I tried, but if you want to use your own ideas that look/work better than mines, go ahead and do it.
This difficulty has potential, but you may want to fix that. I know you can do this difficulty much better! c:

[Starset's Extra]

  1. 00:13:334 (7) - 00:15:134 (5) - 00:21:534 (5) - 00:34:334 (4) - I understand the techinque that you decided to use here, a long piano/vocal section that you wanted to represent with a slider + a section that needs active mapping, that's why you used a 3/4 slider + note I suppose. But in all these cases, there is not a sound over the blue tick, so I recommend you to reduce the volume in all these slider ends, you can use around 5~10 % .
  2. 00:27:934 (6) - You can use a simple 1/2 slider here, if you listen this in 25% playback rate you'll notice that there isn't any "long section".
  3. 00:43:038 (1,2) - I'd increase a bit the spacing between them to emphasize drums. Neverthless, I agree that the spacing between 00:43:184 (2,1) - needs to be higher.
  4. 00:43:329 (1,2) - Switch these combos because you're following drums with one as you did in the previous 00:43:038 (1,2) - .
  5. 01:14:786 (2,3) - In my personal point of view this pattern follows better vocals/instrumental if you swap these objects in the timeline. That's what I mean
  6. 01:30:659 (5,6) - Try increasing the spacing between these objects, this part of the song is pretty tense and you can do something more interesting because it's an Extra difficulty. You can maybe place (6) in x:135 y:82 or something like that.
  7. 01:30:659 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - Looking at the current pattern, you can make the combo'ing here more interesting as well. You can try something like this
  8. 01:50:320 (1,2,3) - In term of hitsounding, I'm pretty sure you can emphasize better the piano if you use whistles in (1,3) but not in (2).
- Cool difficulty! I didn't find major problems here.

[-Tochi's Extra]

Combos
  1. 00:21:934 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - Is this combo spam really necessary? All these notes are following the piano, so having all these notes in a same combo make more sense. You can use (1,2,3) / (1,2,3,4) because the first part of these notes are following only the piano but the second one is following both piano and vocals.
  2. 00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - Similar as above, try using (1,2,3,4) because all of them are following the piano.
  3. 00:35:534 (5) - I feel necessary a New Combo here because you're following piano mainly with th previous notes and in this case, you don't have piano to follow, so you decided to follow vocals.
  4. 01:33:863 (1,1,1,1) - I understand your idea but this combo spam doesn't provide you anything interesting during the gameplay after all. Would be better to use (1,2) / (1,2) to emphasize this piano crescendo.
  5. 01:43:766 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Looking at your pattern, I think you can do (1,2,3,4) / (1,2,3,4) here. As you can notice, I didn't like this combo spam basically because it doesn't provides anything interesting during the gameplay and I think that kind of implements can work better here.
  6. 01:48:279 (1,2,1) - 01:49:154 (1,2,1) - In both cases, I'd use (4,1,2) combo pattern to emphasize better those jumps/antijumps pattern, you used them due the music. If you want to keep them, would be better to change the whole pattern, so they fit your combo'ing much better.
  7. 01:50:318 (1,1,1) - (1,2,3) please, you're following the piano and in this case there isn't too much varieties on it.
  8. 02:13:038 (1,1,1) - (1,2,3) here as well.. You're following drums with all these notes.

  1. 00:54:252 (4) - In my personal point of view, would be better to use two notes (into a jumpy pattern) instead of this slider. I think you can emphasize much better the music if you do that.
  2. 01:41:982 (T) - You don't need to reduce the volume in this slider end that much. Using something like 15~20% in this green line will be more than enough because the music sounds like this.
  3. 02:13:911 (3,1) - In this particular case you can use a slider instead of two notes. A lot of notes here sound a bit excessive because drums are not acting that high and as I see you used a slider to follow "Never" and I find it interesting to use a slider to follow "ever" as well. Give it a try!
- I think you did a good job in this difficulty. The only thing that I didn't like here were those combos.

Conclusion: In general, your own difficulties can work better in term of aesthetics, that's why I focused on that in Insane especially. Still, I think this set has potential in general and I'll probably give this a chance in the future if you receive some more mods.

[]


Taiko



[Nifty's Muzukashii]

  1. 01:42:600 (259) - Try using a kat in this note due the clap sound in the music. You generally followed it with kats in all this section, except for this one and this don sounds a bit "flimsy" in my opinion.
  2. 01:46:096 (273) - (^). These suggestions can apply in other difficulties, make sure to check them and apply it in the others as well.
  3. 01:57:746 (324,325,326,327) - I'd change a bit this pattern to emphasize a bit better the music, especially vocals (it looks like you're following that in this chorus) and that big kat in 01:58:329 (327) - . My idea here is basically that.
  4. 01:59:203 (x) - What about adding a don here? The constant off-beats generally don't flow that well.
  5. 02:03:280 (351) - In this case, I find this kat not really necessary. You can leave a blank here, a rest moment would work in this difficulty due the constant patterns that you have in this kiai and vocals don't feel really well emphasized in the followin pattern. If I were you, I'd try to remove it.
[Nifty's Oni]

  1. 00:38:134 (119) - I think this note can fit better if you move it 1/2 back and transform it into a don. It'll follow better the piano and actually is not following a thing in particular if you ask me.
  2. 00:38:934 (122,123,124,125,126) - I find the emphasis you tried here goes in an oposite way to the music. Yeah.. I personally kkddk will sound/play much better.
  3. 00:54:252 (73) - I suppose you can use a kat here. There is a "bell" sound in the music and it doesn't make sense a don here due this reason.
    *Note*: You can proabably apply this in the other difficulties.
  4. 01:00:368 (114,115) - Is this double K necessary? I don't listen cymbals nor any strong sound in the second note. I think if you leave this as K k the pattern will feel more natural.
  5. 01:46:387 (360) - Move this one 1/2 forward? It sounds weird in its current place, at least if you move this it'll follow vocals in some way.
  6. 02:03:717 (460,461,462,463,464,465,466) - I know this little section is not really simple to map it because there is a little pause in the instrumental and vocals. Neverthless, I think you can make something more interesting here because the flow feels a bit broken. You may want to give this one a try.
[Nifty's Inner Oni]

  1. 00:34:134 (115,116) - k k give a better emphasis to the piano, the pitch in both objects are higher than 00:33:534 (114) - for example.
    *Note*: You can apply this in the other difficulties.
  2. 00:38:934 (133,134,135,136,137) - I still think this works better as kkddk. Specially 00:39:334 (137) - needs to be a kat and yeah.. the first two notes have a higher pitch if you compare it with the others.
  3. 01:09:980 (201) - How about moving this note to 01:10:417 - ? There is a little stop over this downbeat and it doesn't deserve a note over there but I find it more necessary in 01:10:417 - as I told you.
  4. 01:40:853 (387) - I'd prefer a kat here. There is a change in the music and the "clap" sound appear too.
  5. 02:05:465 (567,568,569) - I think you can follow vocals closer by using kdk instead.
  6. 02:11:872 (621,622,623,624) - You can do a great pattern here by adding a note in 02:12:091 - and using ddkdk. It provides a great flow, something really interesting at the end of the map and of course, it follows the music (it makes a good "mix" between vocals/drums). Give it a try, please!
Conclusion: I agree with Jonawaga, that this difficulties are pretty correct, still I needed to give some suggestions that came to me while I played all these difficulties.
Good job, Nifty!

[]

That's all from me!
I have told my thoughts before, so I don't need to add any other thing here hehe.
I hope this can help you!
Best of luck!
Nifty
902 posts
Joined September 2014
Nifty

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

Taiko



[Nifty's Muzukashii]

  1. 01:42:600 (259) - Try using a kat in this note due the clap sound in the music. You generally followed it with kats in all this section, except for this one and this don sounds a bit "flimsy" in my opinion.
  2. 01:46:096 (273) - (^). These suggestions can apply in other difficulties, make sure to check them and apply it in the others as well. I guess so
  3. 01:57:746 (324,325,326,327) - I'd change a bit this pattern to emphasize a bit better the music, especially vocals (it looks like you're following that in this chorus) and that big kat in 01:58:329 (327) - . My idea here is basically that. I would rather follow what I have been for the first two instances of this vocal, changing it would be an unnecessary switchup of emphasis.
  4. 01:59:203 (x) - What about adding a don here? The constant off-beats generally don't flow that well. sure
  5. 02:03:280 (351) - In this case, I find this kat not really necessary. You can leave a blank here, a rest moment would work in this difficulty due the constant patterns that you have in this kiai and vocals don't feel really well emphasized in the followin pattern. If I were you, I'd try to remove it. prob good to have a break
[Nifty's Oni]

  1. 00:38:134 (119) - I think this note can fit better if you move it 1/2 back and transform it into a don. It'll follow better the piano and actually is not following a thing in particular if you ask me. it's following piano there, and I like the emphasis it sets up for 00:38:534 - , but either position would work.
  2. 00:38:934 (122,123,124,125,126) - I find the emphasis you tried here goes in an oposite way to the music. Yeah.. I personally kkddk will sound/play much better. changed to kkdkd, the last note must be a d, the piano is so low
  3. 00:54:252 (73) - I suppose you can use a kat here. There is a "bell" sound in the music and it doesn't make sense a don here due this reason.
    *Note*: You can proabably apply this in the other difficulties. changed a couple things here
  4. 01:00:368 (114,115) - Is this double K necessary? I don't listen cymbals nor any strong sound in the second note. I think if you leave this as K k the pattern will feel more natural. either way it's pretty weird to play, but I want to emphasize the guitar there as much as I can.
  5. 01:46:387 (360) - Move this one 1/2 forward? It sounds weird in its current place, at least if you move this it'll follow vocals in some way. the violen and piano have a pickup note into 01:46:678 - that is being mapped here.
  6. 02:03:717 (460,461,462,463,464,465,466) - I know this little section is not really simple to map it because there is a little pause in the instrumental and vocals. Neverthless, I think you can make something more interesting here because the flow feels a bit broken. You may want to give this one a try. eh, I think it's fine the way it is with the simple drum pattern plus the vocals on k.
[Nifty's Inner Oni]

  1. 00:34:134 (115,116) - k k give a better emphasis to the piano, the pitch in both objects are higher than 00:33:534 (114) - for example.
    *Note*: You can apply this in the other difficulties. but the lower range of the piano is so much lower than it was before, and vocals are super low, and it would also remove the distinction between pitches at 00:34:934 -
  2. 00:38:934 (133,134,135,136,137) - I still think this works better as kkddk. Specially 00:39:334 (137) - needs to be a kat and yeah.. the first two notes have a higher pitch if you compare it with the others. changed to... kdkkd
  3. 01:09:980 (201) - How about moving this note to 01:10:417 - ? There is a little stop over this downbeat and it doesn't deserve a note over there but I find it more necessary in 01:10:417 - as I told you. but there's percussion where it is now and nothing but a tiny guitar at where you pointed.
  4. 01:40:853 (387) - I'd prefer a kat here. There is a change in the music and the "clap" sound appear too. louder guitar is here, the bass kick is introduced as well, and the clap isn't really until 01:41:435 - .
  5. 02:05:465 (567,568,569) - I think you can follow vocals closer by using kdk instead. existing pattern isn't to follow vocals precisely, it's for emphasis on the downbeats.
  6. 02:11:872 (621,622,623,624) - You can do a great pattern here by adding a note in 02:12:091 - and using ddkdk. It provides a great flow, something really interesting at the end of the map and of course, it follows the music (it makes a good "mix" between vocals/drums). Give it a try, please! giving it a try
Conclusion: I agree with Jonawaga, that this difficulties are pretty correct, still I needed to give some suggestions that came to me while I played all these difficulties.
Good job, Nifty! u 2
Kensuke
1,856 posts
Joined April 2014
Kensuke
@mancuso_JM_ what i said is "current ranking criteria". that means that time that rule hadn't been approved yet.
that's why i said like that. hope you understand
Cordie
67 posts
Joined February 2015
Cordie

_Epreus wrote:

cordi's normal
00:45:514 (1,2,3,4) - music here goes like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10315810 this but I think notes here are placed randomly I know, it's overly simplified because red ticks aren't used regularly through the rest of the song.

00:53:669 (3,4,1) - pretty questionable pattern I guess. wouldnt normal diff players confuse this? I think the AR is just high enough to be readable. But you might be right, I'll keep in mind.

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

Cordi's Normal
  1. 00:35:134 - Add a whistle in this slider end to emphasize the piano. ok
  2. 01:04:154 - In similar sections of the music you added whistles, Why don't you try to add it here too? You can also add a whistle in the sliderbody if you want. done
  3. 01:05:902 (4) - It looks like you're following vocals in this section to place them, or at least I find it more interesting if you try to do so. This whistle at the slider beginning makes no sense because there isn't a sound in the music that justify the usage of it and it sounds random and a bit excessive for the section. Try removing it from this slider beginning. done
  4. 01:08:815 (1) - 01:15:077 (4) - 01:18:135 (1) - I personally think you can add whistles in all these sliderbodies to follow those long vocal sections. Give it a try. alright
  5. 01:10:562 (4) - This Whistle is not necessary at this slider beginning either, same reason as before. Try to remove it. removed
  6. 01:15:805 (1) - This whistle is not really necessary, I recommend you to follow vocals in this section and there isn't any vocal there. done
  7. 01:20:465 (1) - You can perfectly add a whistle in this slider beginning too. done
  8. 01:31:242 (5) - If you're following the instrumental here, a whistle at the slider end works perfectly. Donezo
  1. 00:21:934 (2,3) - If you're trying to following the piano here, this 1/1 slider doesn't work really good. You can try other variety by using two 1/2 sliders instead. I don't think neither of them work here. Changed into more simplistic 3/2 slider
  2. 00:26:534 (1) - This is really nitpicky, but how about curving this slider a bit? It will provide you a good blanketing with the previous slider. done
  3. 02:02:989 (1,2) - You can simplify the rhythm usage here, the constant 1/1 is not helping the map to making it better. My recommendation here is to remove (2) and extend the slider till there to follow vocals closely. done
Thanks for the mods!

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victorfernando
292 posts
Joined October 2016
victorfernando

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

[Victor's Hard]

  1. 01:00:077 (2,3) - First of all the distance between these objects is weird, because you used a common 1/2 spacing while it's a 1/1 spacing in timeline. In addition, I don't really know what you're trying to follow with (2) because the main sound are over white ticks, I'd use a single note + 1/1 slider instead. (Okay FIXED)
  2. 00:51:921 (2,3) - The hitsounding here is not the best, the whistle at the end of the slider is not really necessary. If you want a whistle, would be better to add it in (3). (changed whistle to 3)
  3. 01:03:572 (8) - Try to map the downbeat in 01:04:154 - because the section change and it's weird to have this as passive mapping. Reduce this slider by 1/2 and add a note there. FIXED
  4. 01:40:853 ~ 01:47:843 - It's weird to see this section non-mapped here but in the other difficulties it is, especially in Normal and Advanced. I know that you can have this different because it's a guest difficulty but it doesn't look really well either, so, would you mind to map it? FIXED
  5. 02:13:474 (3,4) - I suppose you reduced the spacing for the sake of blanketing this pattern but it doesn't flow really well after the constant 1/2 pattern in the kiai section. Try to increase a bit the spacing between them, at least use 1.20x as you used in other 1/1 patterns. FIXED
- It doesn't play bad in general c: Thank you :)
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zhu
1,326 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
zhu

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

[Advanced]

  1. 00:13:734 (1,2,3) - This pattern is not following anything in the song, it sounds like a 1/1 spam only. I'd like to recommend you this pattern, that it'll follow vocals/piano much better
  2. 00:21:734 (3) - 00:34:734 (5) - Both slider should start 1/2 later to follow the music properly. Looking at the spacing with the previous notes, I suppose that was your idea because I spacing increase is not the best idea in this difficulty to be honest.
  3. 00:33:734 (3) - Move this 1/2 back to follow the piano in a better way.
  4. 01:08:815 (1) - The slider end is following in some way vocals but it doesn't play really well, you snapped it over a blue tick (1/4 tick) and the transition is not the best. Try to extend it until 01:09:688 - .
  5. 01:50:173 (4) - Move this slider 1/2 forward to follow the bells sound. In addition, I think this 1/1 slider doesn't work really well here, try to use this slider instead to follow the music closely.
- I don't feel like doing a complete mod in this difficulty because there are technical issues, especially in rhythm. I can also say that the aesthetic of this map is not the best, it looks like you mapped it quickly to don't have unrankable issues and this is not the way.
The addition of an Advanced difficulty is really good, I was going to suggest you that because the gap between Normal/Hard was bigger than I expected, but you need to add some more 1/2 objects in this difficulty, some rhythmical patterns are easier in this difficulty than in Normal.
Try to check this difficulty by yourself first and then try to find more mods to make it rankable, because in its current state I don't think you can continue with the ranking process if you don't do some big changes here.

[Light Insane]

  1. 00:13:734 (1,2) - This whistle at the slider end doesn't fit really well to the song, if you want a whistle, would be better to add it at (2) to follow piano.
  2. 00:47:261 (9,10) - Looking at the whole pattern, these objects with a normal spacing plays a bit weird, you can add a little jump between these as you can see in this screenshot.
  3. 00:58:329 (5) - I think you can break the combo'ing a bit here because the hitsounding change suddenly, that means you're following other thing in this section comparing it with the previous pattern. Due this reason, try to add a New Combo here.
  4. 00:59:203 (9,1,2,3) - The cursor movement between these objects is not really natural as I expected to be, especially between (2,3). I think some fixed to imporve the flow is needed here, you can take this as an example but you can use other pattern if you prefer.
  5. 01:11:873 (2) - Are you missing a clap in this slider tail? Following your hitsounding, you're using the common 2/4 beats to place caps. The same thing goes to 01:12:601 (4) - but in its slider head.
  6. 01:22:795 (1,2,3) - This pattern doesn't flow really well, you can change some shapes a bit to make this pattern more fluent. I tried something like this but you can maybe find other way, still I find this one pretty correct.
  7. 01:43:183 (1,2) - I prefer to play this pattern stacked, due the polarity change. You show players something a pattern such as 01:41:435 (3,4) - and having this unstacked is a bit weird because in both cases you have polarity changes.
  8. 01:50:465 (2) - Would you mind removing this whistle? It sounds excessive for the music, having a whistle in (1,3) is more than enough.
  9. 02:00:076 (5) - I don't find this kick slider with tones of repetition really interesting to play in this difficulty in particular. In this section you had some jumps and this kick sliders breaks a bit the flow. Try to use two kick sliders instead, doing that you'll improve the experience of this pattern and in addition you'll emphasize vocals (even if you're following drums here).
- Even if it's not the best difficulty in terms of aesthetic, it doesn't play bad in general. I suppose it has improved after the number of mods you've recieved, so I'm glad to see that in a new mapper. Good job!

[Insane]

• General

  1. First of all, I'd like to know what's happened with the hitsounding in this difficulty. As far as I can notice, it's not completed (you can check chorus for example). If you used hitosound copier, make sure to use it in this difficulty as well, if not make sure to add them manually. Btw.. you can apply hitsounding stuff mentioned in "Light Insane" in this difficulty too.
• Mapping

  1. 00:00:934 (1,2) - vs. 00:07:334 (1,2) - Hmm.. The music sounds in a similar pitch in both patterns (I know the second one needs a little bit of emphasize, listening to the music) but you decided to use a higher jump in the second pattern and a short spacing in the first one. I recommend you to increase a bit more the spacing in the first pattern, so you can emphasize better the piano.
  2. 00:04:734 (1,2,3) - Can you use a kick slider instead of these notes? I think it works better in this slow section.
  3. 00:07:334 (1) - Call me picky, but this curve doesn't look really cool. You can improve it by doing it more like this. You can do a similar thing in 00:00:934 (1) - but I prefer to don't suggest anything before you fix the pattern mentioned above.
  4. 00:10:934 (2,4) - I think you can add New Combo in these notes. Doing that, players won't have problem to read these patterns because in this section the Approach Rate is higher than it should be due the slow BPM.
  5. 00:15:534 (4,1) - Try to increase a bit more the spacing between them to emphasize the piano. You did a similar thing in 00:21:534 (2,3,4,5) - , in term of pitch are different section but if you concentrate on rhythm they are basically the same, that's why I'm not recommending you to use the same spacing.
  6. 00:19:734 (3,1) - Increase the spacing between them too. The reason is basically the same I gave you before, the piano.
  7. 00:39:434 (1) - This spinner ends is unsnapped. Check Normal/Advanced/Hard for further information.
  8. 00:41:873 (3,4,5,6) - First of all, you can improve this pattern aesthetically, then, the jump between (3,4) is a bit excessive for this section of the song. If you improve this pattern, you'll need to re-arrange a bit (5,6) as well. Take a look at my idea. You can see that I changed (4) shape, curved a bit more (5) and moved some grids (6), so you can have a better "diamond pattern" between 00:42:892 (6,7,1,2) - afterwards.
  9. 00:52:504 (1,2,3) - I improved a bit more the blanketing by curving (1,3) a bit more. I'll give you a screenshot and a code in case you want to use it.
    Screenshot + Code

    200,294,52504,6,0,P|243:303|287:293,2,90
    244,196,52941,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    321,121,53087,2,0,P|237:89|160:129,1,180
  10. 01:01:533 (8,9) - The little spacing between these objects doesn't play really weird because you've decided to use some little jumps in the current pattern, you know, generally jumps with anti-jumps patterns don't do a good job. In addition, if you listen to the music, drums sounds in a higher tone so this doesn't justify your current pattern, even if you decided to do it because aesthetically looks good. Well, after saying a lot of things, my recommendation here is to increase a bit the spacing between these objects, you can maybe place (9) where you have 01:01:242 (6) - .
  11. 01:23:378 (3,4) - The composition of this pattern looks random and sloopy. I personally think you can use something like this pattern, you have blanketing there (not really noticeable during the gameplay but still xD) and a neater pattern, you have to move some objects here and there if you decide to make this fix but this is to make the map better, I saw that some modders told you that one of the main problems are aesthetic and I'm trying to help you out with that.
  12. 01:29:786 (3,4) - You can use this composition here. The reason is basically the same I gave you in my previous suggestion.
  13. 01:45:513 (1) - *Praise* I wanted to see more things like this slider. Pretty cool! c:
  14. 02:07:358 (8) - This is the only 3/4 slider in the whole kiai and I don't find it really necessary. Why don't you try a 1/2 slider instead? Doing that, you'll keep that consistent.
  15. 02:12:892 (3,4,5,6,7) - I'd prefer to see a compressed stream (as you did in 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ) instead of this stacked pattern. Can you try it? In my opinion it provides a better effect at the end of the map.
FIXED ALL
tochiii
Elite Storyboarder
1,444 posts
Joined November 2013
tochiii
mods

_Epreus wrote:

00:47:844 (1) - sound here should be emphasized but 00:47:698 (5,1) - here is too close and next 2 slider is way aparted even it doesnt have strong sound likes 1 i think. i would make pattern here likes https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10315694 this. not necessary imo

01:04:300 (2,3) - here should be larger since 3 has instrument sound that you emphasized by increasing distance i guess breaks the pattern if i do so

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

[-Tochi's Extra]

  1. 00:21:934 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - Is this combo spam really necessary? All these notes are following the piano, so having all these notes in a same combo make more sense. You can use (1,2,3) / (1,2,3,4) because the first part of these notes are following only the piano but the second one is following both piano and vocals.
  2. 00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - Similar as above, try using (1,2,3,4) because all of them are following the piano.
    the two issues above are 100% intentional. The logic of combo can also be used for aesthatics (visually). So having all the piano parts with only circles new combo'ed also sets a rule in the map. Which is to have new combos on all piano parts, which is pretty much intentional. It also makes it more interesting, than regular combo'ing.
  3. 00:35:534 (5) - I feel necessary a New Combo here because you're following piano mainly with th previous notes and in this case, you don't have piano to follow, so you decided to follow vocals. I will consider it.
  4. 01:33:863 (1,1,1,1) - I understand your idea but this combo spam doesn't provide you anything interesting during the gameplay after all. Would be better to use (1,2) / (1,2) to emphasize this piano crescendo.
  5. 01:43:766 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Looking at your pattern, I think you can do (1,2,3,4) / (1,2,3,4) here. As you can notice, I didn't like this combo spam basically because it doesn't provides anything interesting during the gameplay and I think that kind of implements can work better here. same response for the two first issues.
  6. 01:48:279 (1,2,1) - 01:49:154 (1,2,1) - In both cases, I'd use (4,1,2) combo pattern to emphasize better those jumps/antijumps pattern, you used them due the music. If you want to keep them, would be better to change the whole pattern, so they fit your combo'ing much better. I think they're fine just as they are.
  7. 01:50:318 (1,1,1) - (1,2,3) please, you're following the piano and in this case there isn't too much varieties on it. same response as the first two issues
  8. 02:13:038 (1,1,1) - (1,2,3) here as well.. You're following drums with all these notes. this is an exception, i wanted to use the combo'ing i used for the pianos on the drum here. feels neutral this way imo.
  1. 00:54:252 (4) - In my personal point of view, would be better to use two notes (into a jumpy pattern) instead of this slider. I think you can emphasize much better the music if you do that. I think it's fine like this.
  2. 01:41:982 (T) - You don't need to reduce the volume in this slider end that much. Using something like 15~20% in this green line will be more than enough because the music sounds like this. hmmm, but there's no sound here soo..
  3. 02:13:911 (3,1) - In this particular case you can use a slider instead of two notes. A lot of notes here sound a bit excessive because drums are not acting that high and as I see you used a slider to follow "Never" and I find it interesting to use a slider to follow "ever" as well. Give it a try! adding a slider here will break the intensity, so nah
- I think you did a good job in this difficulty. The only thing that I didn't like here were those combos.

Conclusion: In general, your own difficulties can work better in term of aesthetics, that's why I focused on that in Insane especially. Still, I think this set has potential in general and I'll probably give this a chance in the future if you receive some more mods.


thanks for the mods!
- no changes
Starset
652 posts
Joined April 2015
Starset

_Epreus wrote:

starset's extra
00:21:134 (3,4) - I guess here is pretty spaced. even vocal at 4 is too tiny likes silent. if you did that for emphasize from piano sound. its almost same distance with 00:19:734 (4,1) - this. even 00:20:134 (1) - has higher tone and stronger sound. so id rather 00:21:334 (4) - move this to down side //no its fine its not that diffrent spacing from before

00:38:934 (5) - you could use reverse arrow slider here. sice you followed piano sound 00:36:134 (1) - here. //i did but since piano here is so quiet i filled it up with a long slider instead so its covered up by the slider body

00:43:329 (1) - unnecessary nc I guess. because instrument that you nced is too crowded 00:45:514 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - here and following all of them is nc abuse. and 00:43:184 (2,1) - combo difference here is too short. //nc here is used cuz of sharp angled jumps, iuse it on most of my maps its better for reading

00:46:824 (2) - nc should start here i guess? because 00:45:514 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this is 3 times repeat of one 1/2 slider + one circle but 00:46:387 (5,1) - they have different combo color even its in one form

00:49:300 (3) - not stacked perfectly 00:48:281 (3) - with this

00:58:184 (6,6,8) - can you make these to follow one flow? by likes stacking 00:58:184 (6) - this to 00:58:766 (6) - here or moving 00:59:203 (8) - this to 162,153 (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10315753 that should work like this) //no i wanted the 2nd 6 to be more spaced than first one

01:03:572 (5,6,1) - similiar as ^. and 1 needs emphasize because its start of vocal but its stacked to 6's sliderend. //i mean theres a 3/4 slider before idk how u want more emphasizing

01:30:951 (1,2) - I think here is way aparted. because they dont have strong instrument sound liikes 01:31:242 (3,4) - here. but 01:30:951 (1,2) - its 2.98 and 01:31:242 (3,4) - its 2.89. slider 01:30:951 (1,2) - here can work either I think //violin is stronger here so its more worth to follow that more than drums

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

[Starset's Extra]

  1. 00:13:334 (7) - 00:15:134 (5) - 00:21:534 (5) - 00:34:334 (4) - I understand the techinque that you decided to use here, a long piano/vocal section that you wanted to represent with a slider + a section that needs active mapping, that's why you used a 3/4 slider + note I suppose. But in all these cases, there is not a sound over the blue tick, so I recommend you to reduce the volume in all these slider ends, you can use around 5~10 % . //fixed
  2. 00:27:934 (6) - You can use a simple 1/2 slider here, if you listen this in 25% playback rate you'll notice that there isn't any "long section". //tryed through the whole map to balance between the vocals and instruments so it doesnt feel empty when theres only vocals in some parts
  3. 00:43:038 (1,2) - I'd increase a bit the spacing between them to emphasize drums. Neverthless, I agree that the spacing between 00:43:184 (2,1) - needs to be higher. //its fine as it is even if increase it a bit it wont make much diffrence its just nitpicking
  4. 00:43:329 (1,2) - Switch these combos because you're following drums with one as you did in the previous 00:43:038 (1,2) - . //i dont really understand what u mean but i only nced on those cuz of sharp angled jumps
  5. 01:14:786 (2,3) - In my personal point of view this pattern follows better vocals/instrumental if you swap these objects in the timeline. //but then the drum isnt clickable anymore so id stick to my pattern That's what I mean
  6. 01:30:659 (5,6) - Try increasing the spacing between these objects, this part of the song is pretty tense and you can do something more interesting because it's an Extra difficulty. You can maybe place (6) in x:135 y:82 or something like that. //its on purpose so player has kind of a rest there since its not an intense sound and prepare for the next big jumps, u can see it as a build up or sth
  7. 01:30:659 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - Looking at the current pattern, you can make the combo'ing here more interesting as well. You can try something like this //why tho, doesnt make sense to me
  8. 01:50:320 (1,2,3) - In term of hitsounding, I'm pretty sure you can emphasize better the piano if you use whistles in (1,3) but not in (2). //changed
- Cool difficulty! I didn't find major problems here.
sry im late
osu file format v14

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