1. Advanced (2.76 stars, 115 notes)
2. Anxient's Normal (1.64 stars, 67 notes)
3. Hiding (4.44 stars, 206 notes)
4. N/A's Hard (3.19 stars, 133 notes)

Xenans wrote:

why short ver :v it's literally less than tv size now
The cut at ~36 is pretty abrupt and noticable

Mmm, I wasn't even aware there was a full version at the time of mapping this, otherwise I would have.

Anxient's Normal

I get that the NC's are grouped by measure but it really seems like you could do better grouping them by their placement or by the pauses in the melody, instead of trying to force the player to recognize the downbeat in an artificial way when it is not really too important; at least for the introduction

00:16:126 (3,1) - fix blanket
00:18:269 (3) - Making this 2 notes in terms of the rhythm would probably distinguish it from the sliders before 00:16:483 (1,2) which follow the vocals, in comparison to this third slider which follows sounds. Putting emphasis like this would distinguish between the two and make playing it more responsive, in a way
00:20:055 (2,3) - fix blanket
00:20:055 (2,3) - ^ if fixing dont forget to fix this one
00:25:055 (1,2) - ^ very slightly off
00:38:365 (3,1) - ^
00:42:294 (1,2,3) - Does not really follow the synth rhythm that well, it would probably be more responsive when playing if you made it follow the synth instead of whatever it is currently following, which I can't really tell.
00:44:080 (3) - Since it is following the vocals and you are just about to transition, I feel that having a smooth curved slider would be better than a repeat because of how it would match the vocals, providing flow and still signal a change once you hit the next slide. This could probably be replaced with an upside-down u to attain what i am talking about.
00:48:000 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:55:857 (4,5) - ^
01:05:142 (1) - this slider looks ugly somehow. it probably curves too much

Slidertick hitsounds are a bit weak for use in the kiai in comparison to the other hitsounds used like clap and finish. Sure, you are following the vocals in the sliders that have the ticks, but at the same time you ignore the beat and ruin the rhythmic flow by having such a weak hitsound even if it just for the vocals.

Advanced

These hitsounds kind of suck, it feels really boring when playing it even in comparison to the normal because of how little impact I feel from the notes. The kiai is fine, but the intro is lacking. The triples add nothing without the hitsounds and feel overmapped I'm not too sure what you mean here, could you explain? The hitsounding is the same in the two diffs.


00:16:483 (3) - No real reason for a repeat here, it does not land on a strong beat and does not follow the vocals, so if you simply wanted a long slider I would rework the repeat and just make it a single slider. N/A's diff uses the same slider, although I do agree. Changed
00:18:269 (5) - This really is not intuitive to play and confuses me when playing, being unexpected in terms of the beat. You don't do it 2 measures over either, so it really serves no point. Did you mean to note 00:17:912 (4) - , as i map the rhythm earlier with 00:15:412 (5) -
00:20:055 (4,5) - blanket fixed
00:27:912 (2) - clap blanket fixed
00:30:769 (2,3) - blanket blanket fixed
00:35:055 (1,2,3) - This seems strange rhythm wise because it is clearly following the synth sound which 7 tones and then a clap, but the way this is mapped completely ignores the emphasis of the clap, and does not match up with the feel of the tones either. You don't seem to have any qualms putting 1/4ths elsewhere, so you may as well map the first tone as well instead of leaving a gap there. The beat pattern of repeating 1/4 and 2 kick 1/4ths does not match the tone, so if you want to keep things this way I would shift the current pattern forward by 1/4th and add a circle at the end so that you are hitting all the key parts of the melody and beat. Thanks for noticing this, I glossed over it, fixed according to your suggestion.
00:40:865 (1,2,3,4) - Very weird to play, too much strain of tapping that many circles in a row even if you are trying to highlight the melody. The melody isn't necessarily different here, you've simple chosen to highlight a portion that you ignored previously, randomly, but by doing so there's too much emphasis placed on it and it doesn't feel right. Changed this to match the more vocal-focused emphasis in this section.
00:42:294 (1,2) - This does not follow anything, so I would swap it with a repeating 3/4 slider and a 1/1 slider to hit the change in pitch of the melody and the vocals. Changed this around, I mapped it to the bass as I felt it was more representative
00:54:607 (2,3,4,5) - blanket slight adjustment fixed
00:57:642 (3,1) - ^ big adjustment fixed
00:59:428 (1,2) - ^ fixed
01:00:499 (4,1) - ^ fixed
01:03:714 (1,2) - ^ fixed
01:10:321 (5,6) - ^ wow this was really lazy fixed tbh this wasn't supposed to be a blanket orgiginally until anxient asked me to change it
Usage of 1/4ths in the kiai is rather strange, there are 4 such cases in total, 1 near the start, and 3 near the end. The first one throws off the player because it is not consistent with the middle section of the kiai, and the ending 3 cause unnecessary buildup imo because the kiai doesnt get more intense, it just ends. There is no real need to change things up for the end. 00:56:392 (8) - Kept this one, it's the only one mapped to the synth as well.
Removed the rest

N/A's Hard

seems fine lol
only weird thing is that the first 10 seconds or so of the kiai feel more swoopy than the rest, probably due to more horizontal movement without any veritical inbetween. just a comment.

Hiding

00:10:769 (1) - I would just put the spinner on the 1/4th before the downbeat instead of trying to match it up just for the sake of technicality. It feels more natural and follows the rhythm fine even hitting the notes after the spinner. Kind of a nuclear option but i removed it to fit more with the rest of the diffs.
00:14:697 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - Far too much tapping with no real hitsounding is a pain, is not fun to play, and takes away from the impact of the kiai later on because of how this is supposed to be a slow part with sliders and not take any real effort but is harder to tap and aim than kiai. Certainly, the kiai has higher SV, spacing, and triples/pents, but it still feels weird with this section of large amounts of circles because the kiai is very fast and it feels more natural to play it that way. You mentioned no hitsounding twice, but I really don't see how that's an issue, it plays fine for me. There is a pretty obvious soft hihat on every note.
00:17:555 (5,6,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - ^
00:20:055 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^
00:22:197 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I have no idea what this is mapped to. It's certainly not the melody or the vocals, and the hitsounds are too faint to tell if it's supposed to be mapped to the beat. It has no rhythm, this section. In general, the slow parts feel weirdly mapped because the vocals and melody are mostly ignored in favour of random sliders and circles that just happen to follow the beat and don't follow any real pattern. I would reconsider the rhythm for the non-kiai parts because they are not very consistent and don't follow recognizable signals for the player.

For this section, my emphasis is mostly on the instrumentation. I remapped a few areas in order to more clearly express this. I don't think it's more difficult to aim or tap than the kiai, rather it's slightly more difficult to read because of the stack leniency.

00:47:651 (1,2,3,4) - No real need to overmap this, just extend the slider because it makes sense following that sound and the emphasis is still the same for the downbeat slider. This isn't overmapped there's arpeggio being played. Which slider did you mean to extend?

Some of the pents in the kiai have weird hitsounds, this may or may not be intentional, but because it is not consistent necessarily, not following a pattern I can see, even if it does properly reflect some hidden part of the rhythm of the song in the back I would just keep them all consistent simply because it feels unfinished and it's not really possible to tell what the hitsounds reflect in the beat with how fast yet quiet it is. When I say without hitsounds, I mean pents like 00:58:535 (5,1,2,3) which are missing hitsounds compared to 00:56:928 (2,3,4,5,6,7) or such. That's true, I rehitsounded the kiai more consistently, which should address this issue.

Overall I would reduce kiai hitsound volume, the beat is not that strong in the original song itself.Changed the volumes a bit in the kiai

strickluke wrote:

wait a minute anime fuckin SUCKS

also, maybe ctrl+g 00:21:840 (6) - that feels too awkward

for your advanced diff

00:13:447 (2) - imo delet this because triple stacks on a diff below "Hard" is weird in terms of spread Mapped to vocals, removing it feels super weird to me, same for below 2
00:16:305 (2) - ^
00:19:162 (2) - ^
00:39:258 (2) - ^ fixed

00:41:222 (3,4) - Maybe change these two notes into one slider Changed

01:00:321 (3) - Maybe move this note to somewhere near x:155 y:29 fixed

also this mp3 sounds weird D :

Quite Cynical wrote:

MAPPERS SPIRIT

edit: whoops forgot to say this was for Hiding
edit 2: if you want a seamless edit i can make one for you (Y) The mp3 is from the other ranked set, Not sure, although if you could that'd be nice

00:32:912 (4) - add a clap for the clang sound Fixed
00:34:340 (3) - may want to move this slider back a blue tick since since the previous slider is played on an active sound whilst this is played more passively sure, Changed

IF you dont move it back a tick

00:34:340 (3) - add a to the slider head for the clang sound

00:34:876 - add a circle here since the next 3 objects play off of the same sound I changed the previous pattern so a circl here feels really awkward.
00:35:055 (1) - should remove the finish since its not emphasizing anything different from the other objects in the combo Changed
00:35:055 (1,2,3) - I would personally play around with the hitsound volume here, maybe make a crescendo then a drop in volume on the last object to really make the section stand out Yeah i tried it before but it sounded super wierd to be, only pitch is changing not volume
00:51:393 (2,4) - add sampleset drums to these just like you did for (00:48:536 (2,4) - and 00:52:821 (1,3) -Fixed )
01:01:392 (2,4) - ^ Fixed
01:07:553 (5) - maybe remove this since every other similar pattern only plays in fives Changed

Xenans wrote:

why short ver :v it's literally less than tv size now
The cut at ~36 is pretty abrupt and noticable

Anxient's Normal

I get that the NC's are grouped by measure but it really seems like you could do better grouping them by their placement or by the pauses in the melody, instead of trying to force the player to recognize the downbeat in an artificial way when it is not really too important; at least for the introduction

00:16:126 (3,1) - fix blanket - OF COURSE
00:18:269 (3) - Making this 2 notes in terms of the rhythm would probably distinguish it from the sliders before 00:16:483 (1,2) which follow the vocals, in comparison to this third slider which follows sounds. Putting emphasis like this would distinguish between the two and make playing it more responsive, in a way - goctha
00:20:055 (2,3) - fix blanket - uh
00:20:055 (2,3) - ^ if fixing dont forget to fix this one - uhhh
00:25:055 (1,2) - ^ very slightly off - okay...?
00:38:365 (3,1) - ^ - i guess...
00:42:294 (1,2,3) - Does not really follow the synth rhythm that well, it would probably be more responsive when playing if you made it follow the synth instead of whatever it is currently following, which I can't really tell. - i have no idea what youre talking about tbh. 00:42:294 (1) - vocals, 00:43:365 (2) - whatever this sfx is supposed to be, 00:44:080 (3) - で, 00:44:437 - actual sound, 00:44:794 - wind.
00:44:080 (3) - Since it is following the vocals and you are just about to transition, I feel that having a smooth curved slider would be better than a repeat because of how it would match the vocals, providing flow and still signal a change once you hit the next slide. This could probably be replaced with an upside-down u to attain what i am talking about. - 00:42:294 (1) - vocal is hold note, 00:44:080 (3) - same here tbh
00:48:000 (1,2) - fix blanket - oh
00:55:857 (4,5) - ^ - okay?
01:05:142 (1) - this slider looks ugly somehow. it probably curves too much - nah man

Slidertick hitsounds are a bit weak for use in the kiai in comparison to the other hitsounds used like clap and finish. Sure, you are following the vocals in the sliders that have the ticks, but at the same time you ignore the beat and ruin the rhythmic flow by having such a weak hitsound even if it just for the vocals.

General

1. I am really worring about the gap between Normal and Advanced. While there aren't any jumps in Normal, Advanced diff have jumps, more excessive rhythms. I would like to ask you to add a more diff to avoid the spread issue.
2. The Modding assistant tool is saying that: soft-hitfinish51.wav has delay over 5ms, which is unrankable. You should check it!
   

   Ranking Criteria -Audio- wrote:

   Hitsounds must have an acceptable range of delay under 5ms. Every hitsound file should start in time, preferrably at 0ms. This is to ensure that every map doesn't sound mistimed, and therefore could provide acceptably synchronized rhythm feedback to players.

Anxient's Normal

1. We had a discussion in game.
   
   SPOILER

   22:44 Enon: 00:58:714 (7) - 
   22:44 Enon: the only thing
   22:44 Anxient: lul?
   22:44 Anxient: is it NG?
   22:44 Enon: i noticed while i am playing
   22:44 Enon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8735882
   22:44 Enon: how about this shape
   22:44 Enon: lol
   22:45 Enon: i believe
   22:45 Enon: the shape
   22:45 Enon: i suggested will fit
   22:45 Anxient: how about this? http://puu.sh/wYIA4/215f14b614.jpg
   22:45 Enon: for the song
   22:45 Enon: of course fine
   22:45 Anxient: wokey
   22:45 Enon: annnnnnd
   22:45 Enon: 00:56:571 - 
   22:46 Enon: how about adding a NC here?
   22:46 Enon: the NC cycle here is long a bit imo
   22:46 Anxient: but the NC pattern for the entire diff tho xd
   22:46 Anxient: yeah
   22:46 Anxient: should i cut it?
   22:46 Enon: 00:50:857 - 
   22:46 Enon: same
   22:46 Enon: yes
   22:46 Anxient: yeah ok
   22:47 Enon: clean map :B
   22:47 Anxient: ok
   22:47 Anxient: :B

Advanced

1. 00:16:483 - LOL It's really nazi thing though, Stacking isn't perfect here.
2. 00:54:607 (2,6) - Same as above.
3. 00:23:626 (3) - I think it should be started at 00:23:447 - there is a strong vocal and background sound.
4. 00:30:590 - It seems it's better to add a circle here for better rhythm.
5. 00:41:401 (2,4) - I think it's too far from the previous objects.
6. 00:44:080 - Unnecessary green line.

NA's Hard

1. 00:21:126 - LOL It's really nazi thing though, Stacking isn't perfect here. You don't need to fix it though!
2. I don't have to say about this diff anymore. It's awesome!

Hiding

1. 00:35:769 (3) - Ctrl + G for better flow?

Enon wrote:

hi hi <3

General

1. I am really worring about the gap between Normal and Advanced. While there aren't any jumps in Normal, Advanced diff have jumps, more excessive rhythms. I would like to ask you to add a more diff to avoid the spread issue. I think it's okay, still. I nerfed the Advanced a little bit though. In the Advanced most jumps are very close to DS, with some liberties during the slower section.
2. The Modding assistant tool is saying that: soft-hitfinish51.wav has delay over 5ms, which is unrankable. You should check it!
   

   Ranking Criteria -Audio- wrote:

   Hitsounds must have an acceptable range of delay under 5ms. Every hitsound file should start in time, preferrably at 0ms. This is to ensure that every map doesn't sound mistimed, and therefore could provide acceptably synchronized rhythm feedback to players.

Advanced

1. 00:16:483 - LOL It's really nazi thing though, Stacking isn't perfect here. Nice Catch, fixed
2. 00:54:607 (2,6) - Same as above. fixed
3. 00:23:626 (3) - I think it should be started at 00:23:447 - there is a strong vocal and background sound. I don't like starting on the blue tick here.
4. 00:30:590 - It seems it's better to add a circle here for better rhythm. yeah
5. 00:41:401 (2,4) - I think it's too far from the previous objects. Changed
6. 00:44:080 - Unnecessary green line.Removed

Hiding[/heading]

1. 00:35:769 (3) - Ctrl + G for better flow? Yeah, applied

Origuon wrote:

Hi M4M from your queue

Hiding:

00:20:055 : i think that's too fast for a slow part it's about as dense as the previous jumps, so i don't really see a problem with it being too "fast"
00:24:697 : Why is it empty there's nothing but breathing sounds
00:24:697 (5) - : u should stack this on this 00:24:161 (2) - I actially moved this up instead, stacking felt too cramped in this area
01:00:678 (5) - to my opinion this should be a note there's a sound on the blue tick, and it's to match the previous 00:58:535 (5,2) -

Hey hope it will help you improving your map :p

Aeds Fuwa wrote:

I'm from the M4M queue

Hiding

You should change the hitsound to normal or drum on the chorus 00:48:000 it would make the part stand out more. i think it's fine this way
00:30:233 (1) - Remove this since the vocal starts on the next red tick changed

00:37:294 (3) - Replace this with this 00:40:687 (1,2,3) It'll make 00:40:687 (1,2,3) feel less random 00:40:687 (1,2,3) - is mapped to the piano, there is no piano on 00:40:151 (4) -

00:36:580 - 00:42:294 Consider mapping to the rhythm of the piano rather than the vocals since the piano is more prominent and stands out more i follow kind of both, they're very similar except for a triple on 00:37:830 (1) - which i mapped vocals to because better structure and playing more naturall

00:42:294 and 00:43:722 Emphasize the violin with full-beat sliders on the white ticks (slider heads on 00:42:294 and 00:43:722 , and the slider ends on 00:43:008 and 00:44:437 respectively

i really have no clue what you mean here, but mapping the violins imo is too boring and too constrasting from the rest of the map

Hope this helps and would love it if you modded my map as well
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/650463

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

m4m

[- - General - -]

• - Modding Assistant says that you have a slight delay on a custom hitsound with a wav file "soft-hitfinish51.wav". Dunno if it's true or not, just saying it here just in case~ This was addressed earlier on by Enon, it shouldn't be a problem
  - Not bad!

[- - Advanced - -]

1. 00:18:090 (5,6) - I might think stacking circle (5) on the slider head of (6) would actually be best for transition. It's probably because the song track's section here sounds solidly strong enough especially on 00:18:269 -. So yeah, stacking up there instead would be cool. Agreed, Fixed
2. 00:22:197 (1,2,3) - 00:26:483 (3,4,1) - Not certainly sure, but the jump here doesn't really have any impact towards the emphasis around these two parts. And speaking about emphasis, the jumps here doesn't really make sense in some way of note density strains, or whatso. I would probably recommend doing the other way around, like making the last two notes 00:23:269 (2,3) - 00:27:555 (4,1) - having an extent spacing than the current ones. Also agreed, Fixed.
3. 00:32:555 (5,1) - Well, the snapping around this section kinda makes this pattern a bit tricky in visual aspect, especially the distance gap between these two sliders in my opinion. Perhaps you might wanna do something a little bit better to spice up the structure, maybe you could try to Ctrl + G slider (5) or just place it somewhere else. It used to be ctrl-g'd, someone said to ctrl-g, so I did but now I ctrl-g'd it again. Fixed!
4. 00:48:000 - This timing section with two different kind of points have different volume level, which is around 80-90%. Self-explanatory. D'oh

[- - Hiding - -]

1. - I kinda think the HP drain rate is merely way too high up for this kind of difficulty, like heck it's even easier than a generic Insane difficulty. And because the intro of the difficulty is not as dense as the next few sections, like kiai time for example. I do think reducing it to 6 or 5.5 would suit best for this type of difficulty. I didn't have a problem here, although some testplayers agree here, reduced to 5.5
2. 00:40:151 (4) - Not really the best choice of the rhythm around this part, but for this slider... it's literally a no-no. Like, you could've tried to make something a little more interesting than just a slider with reverse arrow. At least a jump would do for the vocal track's pitch of course. Or maybe just change the whole rhythm composition here to make it much more dense than the current. Changed the rhythm here and before slightly to better fit the vocals.
3. 01:06:928 (3,4,5,6,7) - Okay, this one's a bit concerning. It's not the overlapping stream though, it's probably the pattern consistency you're trying to do here. Seems like you were attempting to do some weird variation for the stream here, as I presume. But since the song track actually sounds nearly the same as the next few parts by its intensity. So I think some weird concept of visual stream like this one doesn't really work perfectly for this section. Yeah i guess so. The idea here is that the stream followed the vocal, but it doesn't play to well. Changed.

anxient's diff is gr8 tho
rlly liked the mapset owob

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

recheck owo

r u sure about the delayed hitsound? makes me feel uneasy about it ;c
[Advanced]

00:17:912 (4,5,6) - I probably noticed this 1/4 jump is the only rhythmic pattern through this whole intro section. It kinda seems inconsistent because you only stack the triples on slider heads or so on, and not suddenly space them out. So you might reconsider this one out. yeah it's prolly better as just one circle here

00:55:142 (4) - Ehh, remove this clap here. Not even the right note for once. Just add clap on 01:07:642 (4) - instead. whoops messed up when ctrl-c

[Hiding]

00:39:080 (2,1) - Just a personal suggestion, but how about extending the distance spacing here for a bit of jump? The note here seems pretty compressed and possibly intense for sure. agreed

Pretty good for now.

just a few stuff to go through ok, star icon for now
hmu again whenever ur ready ;p

Lasse wrote:

01:10:857 - feel like this could use some cute hs addition, even default soft whistle would work


hiding
00:14:340 -00:30:055 - missing hs? sounds like it should be same as 00:20:055 -
00:33:626 (1) - spinner is really weird here imo, slider like on hard seems nicer. length makes it even worse since you actually have to spin rather fast in a calm part lol yeh i just mapped this part
01:00:142 (1,2,3,5) - overlap combined with stack looks a bit unfitting with your other visual here. why not just move things a bit and just do cute visual spacing stuff https://i.imgur.com/hj4FlHj.jpg ok
01:00:857 (1,1) -01:02:642 (5) - broken stacking oko

n/a
00:26:305 - 00:32:733 - missing whistle? you had it on all similar repeats


advanced
00:13:269 - custom hs is missing here (compare to other diffs)
00:32:912 - here probably
00:45:151 (3) - looks unfitting with how much you curved the ones before. something like https://i.imgur.com/wsJTVUt.jpg would be cute imo pitch is movng downwards so i wanna keep it, but i curved it more
01:08:714 (3) - really weird since you mapped all other snares, doing https://i.imgur.com/7MkU3ma.jpg would make more sense mapped


anxient
00:17:197 - hitsounding?
some other spots like 00:32:912 - too since it's copied from a diff that mapped way different rhythm
00:52:642 (3) - overlapping hp bar in low diffs is gross, why not https://i.imgur.com/WyHiLVl.jpg he fixed

think you should go over the intro parts in all diffs and check hs things again since the rhythms are so different that all diffs miss some hs stuff currently


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can qualify after bubble if intro hs stuff is fixed hitsound all fixed o/

Kurai wrote:

Hello!

The unicode artist you are using seems to be incorrect, it should be "TOMOSUKE×Jazzin'park". Even if it looks similar, the × should be this non-standard character and there shouldn't be any spaces sourrounding it.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeMp2yJEhAc / http://www.konami.jp/mv/tomosukejazzinpark_lana/

I know this doesn't make much difference, but metadata have to be as accurate as possible!

Cool map btw!