How are you feeling about Loved so far?

Ephemeral

Inland Empire

Joined April 2009

Topic Starter

Ephemeral 2016-12-03T06:34:16+00:00

Now that we're 3 rounds in (or 3 and a half for the osu!catch people), I'd like to take a minute to ask all of you how you feel about the current set of Loved maps, and the voting system we've been using in the past 2 rounds.

To clarify for those who are not aware, we've been taking every map that reaches a 9%~ threshold of the votes, (+/- 1%) in order to fill the listing as quickly as possible with maps that people obviously like.

If you're middling or towards the dislike end of the options listed in the poll, please take a moment to explain why in this thread. Maps too difficult? Not difficult enough (hello Cookiezi)? Any and all feedback is welcome.

Do note that voting will by no means be the sole method for maps to enter Loved in the future.

B1rd

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Joined December 2013

B1rd 2016-12-03T06:38:24+00:00

I just don't think using votes, i.e. popularity contest is a good or effective way to choose loved maps. Plenty of the classics are still not loved.

Azer

World Cup Organiser

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Joined December 2012

Azer 2016-12-03T06:43:40+00:00

There's room to improve on it, mainly map selection because popularity votes are always going to be garbage (*cough* top 10 maps of 20xx). Great addition as a system though.

blahpy

297 posts

Joined November 2013

blahpy 2016-12-03T08:18:18+00:00

I think it's a really good thing but I feel like the votes aren't often enough at the moment? The last one was a month from the previous one...

Toy

Former osu! Champion: 2019 / Grilled Dodongo

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Toy 2016-12-03T09:52:08+00:00

It's probably one of the greatest additions to this game ever. The only thing it's lacking is just more maps. Like the community voting is cool, and it makes loved maps special and high quality, but it just feels too slow and there's very little choice for the community really. Like there's a very feigned sense of community interaction considering staff still chooses what we vote on. It's a fake choice.

I love just having more and more maps being accessible and with leaderboards so I personally would love a more streamlined process of getting maps consistently into the category, but also keeping the level of quality and discretion with what actually gets through.

Also I personally just don't enjoy flooding the category with nearly unplayable 9*+ shit even if those maps are extremely popular. Some are good but preferably I think it's best to stay away from them simply because a lot of them are simply not mapped well but yet the majority of people will vote for it because they wanna see it with a leaderboard. Variety is key, and I think there's been a good job of that, I'm just greedy and want more of everything

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

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Nelly 2016-12-03T09:58:33+00:00

Less 9* shitmaps and more obscure, aspiring maps. Overall I like it but its needs few improvements about voting stage and maps in general

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DeletedUser_7520443 2016-12-03T12:33:30+00:00

one thing that i'm not a fan of is the random wait time we have to go through before getting a new set of maps to vote for (and the random time we have to wait for those maps to get implemented) like the wait we had to go through for our 4th set of maps to get into it's voting stage (20 days from the previous set). other than that i think its an alright feature

Jukkii

596 posts

Joined October 2015

Jukkii 2016-12-03T12:34:49+00:00

lets put more gimmicky maps here, high * shitmaps just arent good and there are too many of them already in the loved section
also add 2B maps (there are other 2B maps than tewi-ma park, and many of them dont fail you in the end).
i would really like to see loved having gimmicky and new concepts that are fundamentally unrankable due to the ranking criteria (not maps unrankable due to their bad quality).

pijon95

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Joined July 2016

pijon95 2016-12-03T17:36:28+00:00

I enjoy watching high rank players playing hard maps <3 But, also, i would like more less * maps cuz for noobs like me, there´s not that many playable maps in the love section. And... The votes are too slow, it was suposed to be once a week, but it seems that is once every two or three weeks... Oh yeah, the stuff is doing a great job whit it btw. Oh, i and, i don´t understand why do ppl complain about high star maps, theres nearly non of em in the loved section. Like what, Galaxy colapse and...?

7ambda

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7ambda 2016-12-03T19:26:00+00:00

pijon95 wrote:
theres nearly non of em in the loved section. Like what, Galaxy colapse and...?

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/124997
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/766190&m=2 (in-game scoreboard)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/409345
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/356426
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/293705
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/18315
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/180771
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/291154
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/429469
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/342207
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=806325&m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/203309
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/129314
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/291155
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/489236

plz

pijon95

7 posts

Joined July 2016

pijon95 2016-12-03T22:08:48+00:00

F1r3tar wrote:
pijon95 wrote:
theres nearly non of em in the loved section. Like what, Galaxy colapse and...?
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/124997
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/766190&m=2 (in-game scoreboard)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/409345
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/356426
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/293705
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/18315
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/180771
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/291154
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/429469
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/342207
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=806325&m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/203309
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/129314
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/291155
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/489236

plz

Yes, im aware that theres a lot of 7* and 8* Maps, but, most of them are possible to pass no mod for most of people between 5000# and 1#, now, im not saying that those aren´t hard maps, they are, but i was talking about maps that are hard to pass no mod, as Promethean King, or Galaxy colapse, and so on, that´s the stuff i like to see, i supose i expresed myself incorrectly last post...

pijon95

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Joined July 2016

pijon95 2016-12-03T22:13:43+00:00

F1r3tar wrote:
pijon95 wrote:
theres nearly non of em in the loved section. Like what, Galaxy colapse and...?
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/124997
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/766190&m=2 (in-game scoreboard)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/409345
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/356426
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/293705
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/18315
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/180771
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/291154
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/429469
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/342207
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=806325&m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/203309
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/129314
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/291155
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/489236

plz

Also, maps between 1* and 6* are even whit 7/8* i think... So maybe more playable maps than i thought. Anyway, much love <3

Endaris

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Joined June 2010

Endaris 2016-12-03T22:29:00+00:00

I don't mind it mainly due to the reasons already mentioned by Toy:

- maps are not actually chosen by the community, they are chosen by staff
- very focused on extremely high star difficulty
- quality partially lacking

The leaderboards aren't really that interesting for me.
What counts for me is the actual "approvement" of the maps added that is out to give the maps more plays and imo the current trend doesn't really give good unranked maps the opportunity to receive more plays and spotlight. Partially it's already there but it remains very obscure which kind of maps one should expect from that category because it is really all over the place both quality- and difficultywise. That way I don't have any incentive to look for maps to play in the Loved section opposed to the Graveyard.
That is why I'm literally ignoring that section by now.

Also Konbini love when

nibs

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Joined February 2015

nibs 2016-12-04T00:00:00+00:00

you should automatically make a map loved after a certain amount of favourites and manually block maps like centipede

Ankanogradiel

177 posts

Joined June 2014

Ankanogradiel 2016-12-04T04:13:22+00:00

It's a pretty good addition. some great maps get more attention that normally wouldn't. Having a leaderboard is also pretty good and I love the fact that they aren't pp related.

Saturnalize

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Joined March 2011

Saturnalize 2016-12-04T06:26:19+00:00

Love state is actually a pretty good feature. The content? Terribly horrible. It's already mentioned by most of guys up there, so I will just put my cents here.

If the nominated maps are BASED on:
1. How difficult it is
2. How big its star rating
3. How hard the community want to see pro players play these particular "hard" maps

Then do not ask why I dislike the content while I myself (truthfully) ignore the voting since the beginning.

Also, playable by high rank player DOES not means enjoyable for most of people. Having a favorite mileage for a map is not a good idea either (oh look it's xxx map auto like! yeah figure where's the broken in that).

Lastly, I worry this will build a broken mindset for future mapper : oh my look at these loved state maps, hard as shit. gonna map like them so I can have my popularity boosted in no time!
If it doesn't concern you guys, look at our current community map contest on expert diff.

hm?

pijon95

7 posts

Joined July 2016

pijon95 2016-12-04T15:30:47+00:00

Lumineon wrote:
you should automatically make a map loved after a certain amount of favourites and manually block maps like centipede

If they earned the favs, then, why would you block them? Also, wouldnt be that way a problem for maps that want to get rank?

REUSE-ABLE

360 posts

Joined October 2015

REUSE-ABLE 2016-12-06T07:42:59+00:00

hmmm when we play the loved maps there's qualified state notice right? well maybe you can change it? so maybe player who new at this game can know the differents. and also :
1. most of it is high star diffs.
2. there are some of diffs which not completed, and that's annoy me.
3. ingame notice for voice pools maybe a really great idea for me. so you dont have to go to the community voice forum to vote. ( like OWC live notice) so it will get so much votes and easily select the voted maps

that's what i think bout. pls don't bully.

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Amaikai

70 posts

Joined September 2014

Amaikai 2016-12-06T09:13:26+00:00

I love the concept but not fan of the current implementation because:

Map pool is too large to pick from each time. I'm being lazy and trending towards maps I already know instead of trying out every selection. And looking at results of last round, 3 out of 10 maps didn't get loved this time. Majority of the selected loved maps were around 10% which is average result and didn't seem particularly preferred over other picks on pool. Guessing the vote spread was mostly because you had 4 votes and 1-2 maps you liked on the pool so you spent rest of votes random maps.

Instead I would prefer having smaller pools of lets say 5 where you pick only 2. This should give more variety on voting % because you don't have that many "spare" votes.

Wouldn't mind having several concurrent map pools going on at same time. Like always having 2pools to vote for running at same time. Implemented by lets say 2 week voting time and new pool added weekly. Of course this would require additional management.

@pijon95,
thats because overlapping sliders (tewi) and unplayable maps (centipede) were specifically banned from entering loved for now.

pijon95

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pijon95 2016-12-06T12:34:57+00:00

Amaikai wrote:
@pijon95,
thats because overlapping sliders (tewi) and unplayable maps (centipede) were specifically banned from entering loved for now.

I was not aware of this, thanks for information <3!

unko

517 posts

Joined March 2014

unko 2016-12-06T14:06:03+00:00

i just wish od5 270bpm maps wouldn't get loved before an update or smt

Ideal

Nomination Assessment Team

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Ideal 2016-12-07T11:45:54+00:00

voting is bad imo, but the feature in general is amazing

Pope Gadget

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Pope Gadget 2016-12-07T22:54:58+00:00

Everything's fine except that there needs to be (unless I'm blind) more clarity on when each round starts. Seems to be at random at the moment.

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lemonguy

548 posts

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lemonguy 2016-12-09T09:37:08+00:00

Pope Gadget wrote:
Everything's fine except that there needs to be (unless I'm blind) more clarity on when each round starts. Seems to be at random at the moment.

this

Luqanted

826 posts

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Luqanted 2016-12-09T09:44:04+00:00

It was honestly good

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pijon95

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pijon95 2016-12-09T13:07:19+00:00

Pope Gadget wrote:
Everything's fine except that there needs to be (unless I'm blind) more clarity on when each round starts. Seems to be at random at the moment.

Agree

Xyrus_old_1

407 posts

Joined October 2015

Xyrus_old_1 2016-12-10T19:27:16+00:00

I'd like to see voting rounds with some sort of theme, e.g. rabbit jumps, 3/3 time, high bpm, low AR, etc.

Can't wait to see how else maps get loved too.

Iciee

20 posts

Joined June 2015

Iciee 2016-12-10T19:47:28+00:00

[Toy] wrote:
It's probably one of the greatest additions to this game ever. The only thing it's lacking is just more maps. Like the community voting is cool, and it makes loved maps special and high quality, but it just feels too slow and there's very little choice for the community really. Like there's a very feigned sense of community interaction considering staff still chooses what we vote on. It's a fake choice.
I love just having more and more maps being accessible and with leaderboards so I personally would love a more streamlined process of getting maps consistently into the category, but also keeping the level of quality and discretion with what actually gets through.
Also I personally just don't enjoy flooding the category with nearly unplayable 9*+ shit even if those maps are extremely popular. Some are good but preferably I think it's best to stay away from them simply because a lot of them are simply not mapped well but yet the majority of people will vote for it because they wanna see it with a leaderboard. Variety is key, and I think there's been a good job of that, I'm just greedy and want more of everything

I agree but one of the reasons why the map making is lacking now a days it's because lack of tutorial or the tutorials people make on youtube. The tutorials and explanations on youtube is complicated and a lot of people don't understand like I do. I'm not forcing anyone to "tutorial this, tutorial that", its a recommendation and I think it's a great idea for them to continue doing more tutorials and explanations more detailed and less complex because one day, all of us will end up making more maps. And also, we do need a lot of patience to make a single beatmap but the way how people make tutorials and explanations is complicated as hell, and the way how peppy didn't give us a lot on the edit beatmap thing which is more boring and complex.

pijon95

7 posts

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pijon95 2016-12-11T08:27:57+00:00

Xyrus wrote:
I'd like to see voting rounds with some sort of theme, e.g. rabbit jumps, 3/3 time, high bpm, low AR, etc.

Can't wait to see how else maps get loved too.

Holy, that´s a great idea...

Redon

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Redon 2016-12-13T01:12:57+00:00

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Yuudachi-kun

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Yuudachi-kun 2016-12-13T02:33:22+00:00

Actual good mania charts are getting scoreboards rather than just having ranked trash so it's good.

Toshiyuki Doma

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Toshiyuki Doma 2016-12-13T11:11:09+00:00

Is it alright to nominate a beatmap even it's your own or not?

I still play game sometimes.
But I only map most of the time.

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Stefan

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Stefan 2016-12-13T14:30:22+00:00

Saturnalize wrote:
Love

You seriously did that.

OT: Quite hard to describe about the special mode maps there is just a handful of actual gimmick maps. No idea how well it goes in Standard but generally, we should rather take gimmick maps than just hard stuff. As well, true Marathon maps (longer compilation, albums such as The Unforgiving, etc.) should take place in these category if the audience exist.

FireMelter

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FireMelter 2016-12-13T23:25:24+00:00

Its pretty good. MORE MAPS, MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

Hi

MrKosiej

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MrKosiej 2016-12-14T00:35:40+00:00

It's good, but not as good as it could be.

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Aurele

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Aurele 2016-12-14T04:58:00+00:00

It just makes me think of the old definition of an 'Approved' map

not today, satan

troke

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troke 2016-12-14T07:47:37+00:00

i love ~~my ex~~ it yeah, not going to ranked a map but someone tell me to rank a map, so this "Loved" is pretty good

Arras

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Arras 2016-12-19T13:14:20+00:00

I'm with Stefan - imo, there's too many maps in there already that are just hard instead of being original or creative. I'd love to see more silly gimmick maps, especially given how hard it is to rank them. Something like this would fit perfectly in Loved without getting a ridiculous amount of dislikes simply for being unique. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/418097

Seat Ibiza TDI

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Seat Ibiza TDI 2016-12-19T13:56:14+00:00

I want my heart will go one be jesse loved pls

xasuma

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xasuma 2016-12-19T14:02:29+00:00

Glad to see "easier" maps being added as well, not just 7*+ . I like

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AncuL

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AncuL 2016-12-19T14:23:04+00:00

some people was dissapointed that their favourite maps doesn't give pp

huu

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huu 2016-12-19T14:28:34+00:00

I think Loved is honestly one of the best systems osu! has ever introduced, my biggest issue is the infrequency of map voting. Make it more often (like once a week) and don't forget to include some easier maps there too.

Also, I'd love for a couple of maps to get Loved someday, notably maybe:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/165991
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/284931
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/339939
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/388825

But apart from voting needing to be more often, "Loved" is great.

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lemonguy

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lemonguy 2016-12-20T02:55:27+00:00

Is there a set time on how often loved voting is? Because it seems totally random right now.

Colin

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Colin 2016-12-22T23:18:07+00:00

n0ah

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n0ah 2016-12-26T17:09:51+00:00

I like the loved concept more for the gimmicky maps like rustbells graces of heaven better than just regular hard maps

blahpy

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blahpy 2016-12-27T09:45:11+00:00

blahpy wrote:
I think it's a really good thing but I feel like the votes aren't often enough at the moment? The last one was a month from the previous one...

What happened to every week lol x_x

Luqanted

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Luqanted 2016-12-27T10:52:27+00:00

this feature was really a great idea at feature request and one of the feature that was really implemented fast

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FireMelter

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FireMelter 2016-12-29T21:15:52+00:00

Still waiting for Vote nr.4 ... thats the only thing you need to change :/

Hi

moni

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moni 2016-12-30T23:46:51+00:00

FireMelter wrote:
Still waiting for Vote nr.4 ... thats the only thing you need to change :/

+1 it takes too long time

used to play this game

n0ah

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n0ah 2016-12-31T11:07:40+00:00

I dont mind waiting a month but id like for it to be on the same day every month, the 28th for example (or at the start of each month)

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