1. Presto Agitato (6,13 stars, 2236 notes)

Potet wrote:

This is fucking amazing. I wish you the best of luck mapping this masterpiece
Thank you :')

EvilElvis wrote:

just rank this okay

HML wrote:

gay

add custom combo colors plzzzzzzzzzzzz

Make HP6? nah
OD8.5 or 9 would be cool as well. gonna stick to OD8

00:14:602 (1,2,3,4) - This curve is ugly. Clean it up a bit? kk
00:17:190 (1) - Should be a single note and away from 00:17:375 (2) - Because The slider end is on a silent note while the rest of teh pattern isn't. Also, the sound part you mapping to doesn't start til 00:17:375 (2) - . ye

00:22:004 (1,2,1,2) - Do this 00:19:041 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - here. done
01:03:391 (4,1,2,1) - I don't see why you did this. The pitch changes the same it does in the rest of the song/ it's because of the really strong sounds on 01:03:832 (1,1) -
01:22:582 (1,2) - Ctrl+G because song is going down in pitch. I'd personally just make these horizontal because the sound doesn't stand out enough to chnage the flow of the section for these two notes. i ctrl G'd but i do like the jumps

01:55:602 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Same as before ye
02:40:387 (1,2) - ^ same argument as before
02:55:489 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - Make these bigger. They feel less impactful than 02:54:025 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - aight
03:35:001 (2) - Make the first note on this a note and the other a 1/4 slider. Fits better rhythmically imo. ex since the blue and white tick are the strongest i will do something else, having your rhythm ignores the white beat
04:02:442 (1,2) - This was a bit weird to play. I's add (2) in at the tail of (1) kk
04:29:339 (1,2,1,2) - You did it hereeeeeeeeeeeeee
04:38:328 (2,1) - Make blanket better. k
04:45:107 (10) - , 04:46:570 (6) - , 04:48:034 (6) - You were NCing these before accident
05:17:940 (1) - Ends on a strong note. ye
05:18:305 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - You forgot to do teh NC thingy here yep
05:20:866 (1) - Ends on a strong note e
06:25:619 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - Space out more. I though I was playing 250bpm and overstreamed it to hell. noticed this too, will do
06:52:810 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This looks ugly. Maybe space it out more and make more of a wave. You turned the stream on one place, but didn't do it on the other even though they have teh same amount of strength in their sounds. cleaned up a bit

06:54:770 (1) - Space more to the left, the Ctrl+C and past it on 06:55:592 (1) - . Then flip it horizontally and vetically to get something like THIS. I think it flows more and give a better impact.

did something else that was good

Fun mep

BryLego wrote:

General

I think you have to put a Time Break if you want this ranked... it seems impossible to do xD
Put sound effects too... if you want i can help you with it

Striking Fire From The Heart Of Man

00:17:190 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Leave or move the big distance of these sliders not sure what you're asking for but i'm going to keep it as it is
00:35:741 (3,1) - Look at this yes it's because 00:35:952 (1) - has a different offset
01:03:832 (1,2,1) - People can't never see this lol gotten enough complaints, will change
01:32:116 (3,1,2) - 01:32:491 (1,2) - 01:35:406 (3,1,2) - 01:36:263 (1,1,2) - 01:37:052 (1,1,2) - 01:37:874 (1,1,2) - Look da distance yeah? i think its fine
01:53:751 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Leave or move the big distance of the sliders no
02:12:300 (3,1) - This is impossible to do i have never seen anyone miss on this ever
02:40:387 (1,2,1) - Best Choke ever changing all of these into playable ones
03:05:802 (1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1) - Same fact... nein
05:41:302 (1) - Out of timing, impossible to do yea u rite
06:45:786 (1,1,2,3) - Another Choke not really a choke but i fixed the sv
05:28:431 (1,2) - Look the Bpm on this sliders and the distance 05:47:093 (1) - This too
For make you an idea look at this pattern going to keep as is

For now i saw only this pattern to adjust... I Hope you the best!

Mirash wrote:

Hello, coming from Elvis

firstly i want to suggest you to set combo colors on 1/6 and 1/3 for better readability, like it done here https://osu.ppy.sh/s/210731 i really like this suggestion, i will do this
00:35:110 (1) - i dont get it, plays strange, consider removing it made it more pleasant
00:37:413 (2) - remove whistle from last repeat(white tick) sounds better for me, less threatened kk, did so for the other ones also
00:43:073 (3) - put nc like you do further 00:44:533 (1,1) - this was a mistake
01:26:067 (2) - stuck it under slider like you do further this is ok
01:28:523 (1) - saem. or arrange them accordingly to music, from relatively high spacing too low kk
01:30:402 (1,1,2) - something wrong with green lines and snapping also check aimod lol fixed everything AI-mod (again)
01:30:710 (1) - and guess you dont need to nc it, bpm and snapping does not change here SV goes from 1 to 0.5
01:39:503 (2) - i'm in no way bpm master but it surely is wrong here it is actually 143 instead of 15
01:40:675 (1) - offset is 100719 it's actually 100 700, just that the reverse slider on the wrong bpm is overshadowing it
01:41:489 (1) - add a timing point here with 101466 ye blu tik nc catch my attention here, i'll let someone more confident to check timing here xd fixed with the timing error removed
03:13:196 (2) - its too curve for me, blanket it more fix blanket kd pls
03:15:590 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - looks messy with 1-2 ncs, 1-4 would be prettier and playability will not be affected i disagree i think it looks messy with 1-4
03:17:177 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - and here playability is affected by your ncs, i got super discomfort while playing. 03:17:927 (1,1) - removing this two should be enough basicly redid this part but not sure what you mean
06:27:814 (1) - i'm in love with this circle section thanks <3


streams plays fine and timing is mostly correct, gl

1. 00:16:975 (2) - probably should NC to denote radical bpm change
2. 00:35:560 (1,2,3) - decrease spacing for this? assuming you're trying to map the pitch.
3. 00:37:413 (2) - it's infact 1/16 (and the timing is not on point here, but it's not too important), but try 1/8 instead because 1/16 is just unfair at this point.
4. 00:39:472 (1,1) - the sliderends on pretty much non existent beats are kinda ew. Just drag the sliderend to where the circles are should solve it.
5. 02:13:949 (2) - same problem for the last two points for this whole section
6. 03:28:929 (2) - ^ same, and every repeating sections later on.
7. 00:39:472 (1,1) - btw nerf the SV for these sliders, they're way too fast for this section . (i know it's the timing points, just don't forget to fix same issues when you scan through the map.)
8. 01:00:052 (1) - silence sliderend because technically overmap and sounds offputting.
9. 01:21:485 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - could be cleaner.
10. 01:25:705 (1,1,4) - shouldn't those be snapped to the red tick since there are actual sounds there?
11. 01:04:362 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I get what you're trying to do, but this is too conflicting with the mapping to the pitch concept.
12. 02:30:391 (1) - silence sliderend
13. 02:36:595 (1) - ^ do the same for overmapped sliderends. You really want to avoid misinformed feedback in an erratic timing song like this. Sliderends are what regulate the timing for the player.
14. 03:09:987 (2,1) - very drastic change in rhythm, try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655855 .
15. 03:36:915 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - why different rhythm from 03:36:315 (1,2,3) - ?
16. 03:38:066 (5,1,2,3) - kinda iffy rhythm, these 03:38:907 (2,3) - are vastly different from these 03:38:066 (5) - , though music suggests they should be the same. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655980 try this .
17. 05:48:635 (5,1) - careful spacing should be used for weird snaps like this. It's too different from 05:48:167 (1,1) - and you're interpreting in 1/6 rhythm, chances that the player would expect the next object to be at the white tick instead of the red one right now. Try switching 05:48:870 (1,3) - around.
18. 05:52:254 (1,2,3) - same reason
19. 06:15:870 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - cut these streams into 4 each so the 1/3 and 1/4s are better differentiated.
20. 06:16:955 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ same , into 3 each
    

LMT wrote:

1. 00:16:975 (2) - probably should NC to denote radical bpm change 00:16:770 (1) - this is already new combo'd so its not nescessary
2. 00:35:560 (1,2,3) - decrease spacing for this? assuming you're trying to map the pitch. yeah alright
3. 00:37:413 (2) - it's infact 1/16 (and the timing is not on point here, but it's not too important), but try 1/8 instead because 1/16 is just unfair at this point. it is actually 1/12, there are 4 beats and they start at the blue tick
4. 00:39:472 (1,1) - the sliderends on pretty much non existent beats are kinda ew. Just drag the sliderend to where the circles are should solve it. been thinking of this a lot and decided i'm going to do this for all of them, will not respond to these as fixing them all
5. 02:13:949 (2) - same problem for the last two points for this whole section
6. 03:28:929 (2) - ^ same, and every repeating sections later on. Here i will not do it as there are distinct piano sounds on the sliderends
7. 00:39:472 (1,1) - btw nerf the SV for these sliders, they're way too fast for this section . (i know it's the timing points, just don't forget to fix same issues when you scan through the map.) Yeah i messed this up
8. 01:00:052 (1) - silence sliderend because technically overmap and sounds offputting. sure
9. 01:21:485 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - could be cleaner. i think it's fine
10. 01:25:705 (1,1,4) - shouldn't those be snapped to the red tick since there are actual sounds there? bpm changes in this make little sense
11. 01:04:362 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I get what you're trying to do, but this is too conflicting with the mapping to the pitch concept. yeah this should actually be reversed, got u
12. 02:30:391 (1) - silence sliderend ye
13. 02:36:595 (1) - ^ do the same for overmapped sliderends. You really want to avoid misinformed feedback in an erratic timing song like this. Sliderends are what regulate the timing for the player.
14. 03:09:987 (2,1) - very drastic change in rhythm, try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655855 .
15. 03:36:915 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - why different rhythm from 03:36:315 (1,2,3) - ?
16. 03:38:066 (5,1,2,3) - kinda iffy rhythm, these 03:38:907 (2,3) - are vastly different from these 03:38:066 (5) - , though music suggests they should be the same. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655980 try this . I like what i have more, havent seen people have too much of a problem with it (myself included)
17. 05:48:635 (5,1) - careful spacing should be used for weird snaps like this. It's too different from 05:48:167 (1,1) - and you're interpreting in 1/6 rhythm, chances that the player would expect the next object to be at the white tick instead of the red one right now. Try switching 05:48:870 (1,3) - around. i think it's fine, nobody has had a problem reading that
18. 05:52:254 (1,2,3) - same reason
19. 06:15:870 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - cut these streams into 4 each so the 1/3 and 1/4s are better differentiated. going to change it, but i dont like your suggestion. I will use 1 reverse slider whenever i change rhythm so its easier
20. 06:16:955 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ same , into 3 each

Pretty good, if you could reduce the amount of extended sliderends to allow more feedback that'd be great.

HighTec wrote:

good thing i have 4 versions of the same map now

Mapper wrote:

you dont need "beethoven moonlight sonata presto agitato piano tutorial" in tags, since this isnt a piano tutorial and the rest is already in the title

1. you need some volume control in your map on the crescendo's and some other stuff, hitsounding needs some more attention.
2. 00:24:597 - this is still on previous bpm so this timing point is not needed.
3. On repeating patterns that i modded, apply them globally.
   
   00:05:927 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Those ones are 0.40x spaced 00:05:566 (1,2,3,4) - polish this to 0.4x spacing?
   00:07:373 (1,1) - as you scale up the stream's spacing the emphasize you had on the 1/1 rhythm got nullified a bit, would make that jump a bit larger like about 1.30x instead of 0.83x.
   00:08:095 (1,2) - These really require to be hitsounded as they sound quite significant, i suggest japanese clap/soft-hitclap/soft-hitfinish OR simply putting more volume.
   00:08:457 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - what happend to the x0.40 spacing concept? This is the same intensity as 00:05:566 - fix previous one or this one.
   00:09:903 (1) - fix dis spacing.
   
   00:19:782 (1,2) - this is still musically part of 00:19:041 (1,2,1,2) -
   The placement is changed a bit too drastically, and 00:19:967 (2) - that needs a whistle hitsound i'm pretty sure.
   
   00:17:375 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - If you removed those whistles, those 00:19:041 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - would emphasize more in the audio field, just a suggestion.
   00:22:930 (2) - I've looked at your hitsounding patterning and i think there shouldn't be a whistle here.
   00:23:115 (1) - soft-hitfinish is really unfitting here.
   
   
   00:27:635 (1,1,1) - x0.80 source: previous section.
   00:29:778 (1,2) - one of the reasons why i think this map needs more volume control
   00:35:560 (1,2,3) - i don't see why this is so close the intensity doesnt change that much
   00:37:413 (2) - these sound like they have more notes, so need more repeats
   00:44:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:46:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:44:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - i would just keep those consistent imo and only change the spacing not the whole pattern
   
   
   sections like these really must be denser 00:49:829 (1,2,3) - they really feel undermapped, i know that mapping this part is kind of a dilemma but this is rly bad. vv
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   01:08:314 (1) - would hitsound a whistle on the sliderend to keep rhythm going in players head
   01:09:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - those sound a bit differently than 01:08:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
   
   01:18:558 (8) - for those things, turn this -7 clockwise so it doesnt look like its floating the air,
   it looks good cause the slider goes the same direction of the follow point
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   01:39:022 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - timing feels a bit off here
   01:42:128 (1) - shouldn't this be a stream?
   
   01:56:343 (1,2) - see mod 00:19:782 (1,2) -
   02:04:168 (1) - 0.8x? your spacing keeps changing while these section keeps the same dunno.
   02:11:668 (1) - remove nc
   02:13:949 (2) - revers needs more repeats
   02:18:884 (1) - nc
   02:35:094 (3,4) - ctrl+j so it also emphasizes 1/1 piano rhythm in the song?
   
   02:39:123 (1,2) - 02:40:387 (1,2) - ?? I don't think this nc is oka
   
   02:41:020 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - isn't that a bit counterintuitive to have smaller spacing here? there's like a crescendo there and the pitch increases lol.
   
   06:26:566 (1,2,1) - wats hpepning
   
   I lost a chunk of my mod, i have some more things to say but can't come up with them right now irc me later if you want to know!

zev wrote:

1. you need some volume control in your map on the crescendo's and some other stuff, hitsounding needs some more attention. yes i am currently redoing the hitsounding
2. 00:24:597 - this is still on previous bpm so this timing point is not needed. no it's not
3. On repeating patterns that i modded, apply them globally.
   
   00:05:927 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Those ones are 0.40x spaced 00:05:566 (1,2,3,4) - polish this to 0.4x spacing? i think it's fine
   00:07:373 (1,1) - as you scale up the stream's spacing the emphasize you had on the 1/1 rhythm got nullified a bit, would make that jump a bit larger like about 1.30x instead of 0.83x. i think it's fine
   00:08:095 (1,2) - These really require to be hitsounded as they sound quite significant, i suggest japanese clap/soft-hitclap/soft-hitfinish OR simply putting more volume. i'm redoing all hitsounds and this is a thing i will be focusing a lot on
   00:08:457 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - what happend to the x0.40 spacing concept? This is the same intensity as 00:05:566 - fix previous one or this one.
   00:09:903 (1) - fix dis spacing. It looks the same to me?
   
   00:19:782 (1,2) - this is still musically part of 00:19:041 (1,2,1,2) - yeah, fixing on all other locations too
   The placement is changed a bit too drastically, and 00:19:967 (2) - that needs a whistle hitsound i'm pretty sure. hitsounds are getting redone
   
   00:17:375 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - If you removed those whistles, those 00:19:041 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - would emphasize more in the audio field, just a suggestion.
   00:22:930 (2) - I've looked at your hitsounding patterning and i think there shouldn't be a whistle here.
   00:23:115 (1) - soft-hitfinish is really unfitting here.
   
   
   00:27:635 (1,1,1) - x0.80 source: previous section. this is fine
   00:29:778 (1,2) - one of the reasons why i think this map needs more volume control yes
   00:35:560 (1,2,3) - i don't see why this is so close the intensity doesnt change that much fixed
   00:37:413 (2) - these sound like they have more notes, so need more repeats they don't
   00:44:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:46:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:44:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - i would just keep those consistent imo and only change the spacing not the whole pattern it's basicly the same
   
   
   sections like these really must be denser 00:49:829 (1,2,3) - they really feel undermapped, i know that mapping this part is kind of a dilemma but this is rly bad. vv
   
   SPOILER

   
   i like that better
   
   01:08:314 (1) - would hitsound a whistle on the sliderend to keep rhythm going in players head
   01:09:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - those sound a bit differently than 01:08:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i think it's fine, i dont notice too much of a difference
   
   01:18:558 (8) - for those things, turn this -7 clockwise so it doesnt look like its floating the air, ok?
   it looks good cause the slider goes the same direction of the follow point
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   01:39:022 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - timing feels a bit off here it is
   01:42:128 (1) - shouldn't this be a stream? it's to ease into the bpm change
   
   01:56:343 (1,2) - see mod 00:19:782 (1,2) -
   02:04:168 (1) - 0.8x? your spacing keeps changing while these section keeps the same dunno.
   02:11:668 (1) - remove nc no, cause of the strong piano sound, and it stands out
   02:13:949 (2) - revers needs more repeats oh wait they do, fixing on other parts also
   02:18:884 (1) - nc
   02:35:094 (3,4) - ctrl+j so it also emphasizes 1/1 piano rhythm in the song? ye
   
   02:39:123 (1,2) - 02:40:387 (1,2) - ?? I don't think this nc is oka its not
   
   02:41:020 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - isn't that a bit counterintuitive to have smaller spacing here? there's like a crescendo there and the pitch increases lol. i forgot to change this in another mod, i changed the other pattern like this
   
   06:26:566 (1,2,1) - wats hpepning big bpm change for no reason so i have to use sliders
   
   I lost a chunk of my mod, i have some more things to say but can't come up with them right now irc me later if you want to know!

Mir wrote:

Some suggestions. (haha i lied i ended up modding the whole damn thing cuz I love this map)

curse you bonsai for making me find this

[ General]

1. You have two unsnapped slider ends 00:37:413 (2) - 04:38:328 (2) - easiest way to fix this is just remove a reverse. Sound is so fast no player would notice. yeah, will do
   
2. 00:53:841 - Two green points with different volume settings exist here. One should be removed.

yep

[ Striking Fire From The Heart of Man]

1. 00:55:286 (1) - This doesn't seem to get very much emphasis aside from an NC so maybe have the direction change here instead of at 00:55:376 (2,3) - ? done
   
2. 02:06:337 (1,2) - Spacing seems extremely low for such an intense set of sounds. Perhaps try 3x? // 02:09:228 (1,2) - 01:50:441 (1,2) -
   
3. 02:11:668 (1,1) - Uhh, is this intentional? xD If so I don't see a need for it personally, at least for 02:11:668 (1). i think it looks fine but i can see it not fitting with the rest of the map
   
4. 02:26:393 (1) - Finish intentional? Doesn't seem to happen at 02:29:307 (1). Perhaps change to a whistle instead. Finishes don't seem to fit the song very much. it's not intentional
   
5. 02:58:050 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I think these are the highest intensity jumps in the map but at 01:18:558 they don't reach nearly this level of spacing. Maybe nerf these a bit? slightly nerfed (they were actually the easiest jumps to hit because vertical 1-2-1-2 lol
   
6. 02:59:513 (1) - This is a pretty awkward angle to come into, maybe ctrl+g this? Especially considering the next note is under the reverse. If the 2 were above it it would be okay imo. i like the angle
   
7. 03:36:915 (4,5) - These stood out to me as kind of unnecessary. In the song there is a background piano that does have constant 1/4 but only blending part of it into the layer you're mapping to feels kind of weird. I think you can remove this or if you really want to keep notes here add a kickslider instead? // 03:37:472 (2,3) - i really don''t want to ignore that 1/4 but i can use a kickslider instead
   
8. 04:37:268 (1,1) - This increase of SV feels very sudden and might be a bit surprising to players. Maybe try to lower the SV of 04:38:859 (1) - a bit more?i can see where you're coming from
   
9. 05:04:740 (1,2,1) - If this DS is intentional it looks kind of out of place, could you possibly make it the same ds as the rest of the stream? yeah i like that better too
   
10. 05:17:940 (1,2) - I understand the progression but 1 is way weaker than 2, and making them stacked gives them both the same emphasis. I think what might work is if you instead stacked 05:17:760 (7,1) - slightly off like so: http://i.imgur.com/HcQCE4z.png or by just unstacking them and using regular spacing emphasis because what you have now kind of threw me off. The stack anyways forces a stop in movement which is very weird when it only happens on the first set of two and not on the rest, you know? i totally misheard this and mistook the 1 for being strong, i will use regular spacing emphasis
    
11. 05:32:263 (1,2) - This also caught my ear as the 2 isn't very audible in the song, in fact I'd dare to say it doesn't exist and is just a continuation of the background piano. In which case I'd recommend removing it and extending the 1 instead to cover that note. alright
    
12. 06:13:611 (4,1) - Spacing increase felt a little too underwhelming when the song picks up much faster. Perhaps space 06:13:521 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - slightly im all for buffing things <3, i also buffed 06:16:593 (1) - more? Could be said for all the streams here, they felt a little bit weak compared to what the song is doing. You're definitely not afraid of going bonkers like 06:23:095 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - so a little buff wouldn't hurt, right?
    
13. 06:32:714 (1,1,1) - How about, to go with the decrease in pitch, you do something like this: http://i.imgur.com/ZAuFVCK.jpg might be a cool effect considering the downwards spiral has to do with pitch as well (and is pretty damn cool). i like that a lot
    
14. 06:47:882 (3) - This slider whistle is probably a mistake. yes
    
15. 06:54:770 (1,1) - Might do nicely with a lot more spacing because for me the song is calling for a lot of emphasis on these notes, but the player doesn't really need to move much to hit them.

alright

Almost there! Keep going! Good luck! thanks <3

Bonsai wrote:

ok here's the timing-fix! :3

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jk lol, that's how converting the MIDI into osu! ends up like and it's completely bonkers and doesn't help fixing the timing a single bit because it's so fucked up

not relevant or anything, just wanted to share it bc it's so fun
(shoutout to Dudehacker for converting that)

1. Artist should be the creator of the MIDI, which is "Bernd Krueger"
2. The most 'beautiful' version that I found for the Title is the one you get from opening the original MIDI-file from the website which is "Sonata No.14 in cis-Moll, Op. 27/2 - 3. Satz" - This is pretty much the most common way to cite classical pieces in german (the creator is german), all the other versions you get by looking at the website ("Sonata No. 14 C# minor (Moonlight) , Opus 27/2 (1801) 3. Movement") / downloading the mp3 ("Beethoven: Moonlight 3rd movement") / whatever are all somewhat ugly so I'd recommend to just use this one.

I wrote:

while I procrastinate for another month

Bonsai wrote:

I wrote:

while I procrastinate for another month

IT ONLY TOOK ME 29 DAYS AHAHAHA

hmu concerning cutting the intro-silence / finding the right offset afterwards

oh also I'ma steal Oko's star bc I was here first
ätschbätsch

1. 00:05:606 (1,2) - This jump seems very low compared to all the other ones, why not move (2) more to the right?
2. 00:27:296 (1,2) versus 00:24:407 (1,2) seems random too, I find the low spacing quite fitting here but whatever you want, just not so different from each other, assuming that there's no particular reason for that ^^
3. 00:30:579 - Kinda a matter of taste, but I personally dislike the fact that you basically NC'd every object in this section, it completely removes the musical.. line, emphasis.. idk words, but I feel like just NCing every measure would be more fitting
   Also you decided to barely do that at 03:24:094 so :psy:
4. 00:36:975 - For this section I think I suggested unstacking the different harmonies/measures multiple times in irc but you never responded, idk, did you understand what I meant? Do you dislike it? Bc I dislike how the note-placement completely ignores all the changes in the harmony and makes it into one long stagnant pattern, I don't find that to be very fitting tbh
   
5. 00:16:635 (1) - Why do you start putting the Whistles on these sliderheads here? You didn't do it at 00:13:672 (1) either, I kinda find it weird to change the use from offbeats to onbeats, and if you leave them out here too it would build a stronger contrast to 00:17:746 (1)
6. 00:42:929 (2,4,6) - You set drum-hitnormals for those but didn't for 00:44:747 (2,4,6) -, idc which way you prefer but it being inconsistent feels weird to me
7. 00:43:384 (5) - 00:46:293 (5) - Just a personal suggestion, I feel like NCs would fit quite well here!
8. 00:45:929 (3,4) - No good mod without a bit of nazi'ing, those two are spaced a little too low for a follow-point to appear, which appears between all the other objects of the combo
9. 00:48:111 (5,1) - I realize you spaced this so low to have the slider perfectly go through the circle, but tbh I don't find that to be looking any better or any worse than spacing it normally and having it overlap, imo the sound on (1) is "radical" enough for it to "justify" an overlap like that, but it really deserves more emphasis imo
10. Also I think you messed up your Kiais here lol, like, here the strong note at 00:48:475 isn't Kiai but the following quiet stream is Kiai, whereas at 00:54:666 the strong note is Kiai and then ends at the next measure lol, I feel like using the second version at the first spot too would make most sense
    Also I feel like it would be more fitting to start the next Kiai at 01:00:053 bc that's kinda the climax of the phrase, and also the map is actually changing something there, putting more emphasis on that note by making it a hold-slider, whereas 00:58:617 is just continuing the stream but making it less intense which seems contradictive to KiaiTime xd
11. 00:53:152 - I don't find the Clap here very fitting because that's not the same sort of note like those that have been Clapped on before
12. 00:55:742 (5) - I very much like that you only use NCs on the strong notes here, but if you do it that way here I feel like you should also not NC 00:49:543 (1) - 00:50:260 (1) - 00:50:983 (1) -, and not NC at 00:58:976 (1,1,1) at all either
    
13. 01:18:859 (1,1) - NCing here destroys the consistency with the combo at 01:08:826 (1) and also keeps you from highlighting 01:20:685 (2) with an NC which it would very much deserve imo, so I'd suggest not to NC those but the (2) instead. You didn't do it at 02:55:415 (4) anyways so that's just inconsistent hehe
14. 01:25:371 (1) - 01:28:693 (1) - I don't find NCs like these necessary bc again I feel like it destroys the musical pattern, do you?
15. 01:33:659 (1,2) - 01:34:059 (1,2) - 01:34:459 (1,2) - 01:34:848 (1,2) - Why do you space these out so much when you stop doing that at 01:35:238 -? imo since those first notes are generally quieter they should be spaced that low too
16. 02:08:531 - There's no note on the sliderhead here, should just be a circle on the 1/8-tick
17. 02:36:625 - Why did you lower the volume so much to here? Seems very weird when you did it completely different at 01:00:053 -, those sections sound completely the same to me but give completely different feedback
18. 02:45:376 (1,2,3) - This looks really weird to me, visual spacing of (1,3) is really cramped and doesn't really fit to the rest of the patterns in these sections, seems more like a I-had-to-fix-something-and-make-up-for-different-placement tbh lol
19. 03:07:421 (1) - If you put the funky green into the NC-mix here, why not at 01:30:871 (1) too? looks kinda boring there anyways, also the following ones too ofc
    Haha I just realized that all those NC-suggestions/-changes are gonna need you to re-colorhax everything xddd sorry
20. 03:12:925 (1,1,2,3,1) - uuuh since you forced so much variation in that previous pattern-section already I feel like having 03:13:292 (1) - be a slider is really out of place bc it's not special at all anymore, I'd rather suggest to make it like this so that there's some more recognizable difference between these two sections
    Also I just noticed that the timing isn't smooth here which seems stupid to me, my bad, just make 03:12:552 be 162,0 bpm; I'll most likely have to rebubble anything so this doesn't matter anymore either but makes it more accable in case you decide to apply the point I just made
21. 03:27:150 (1) - Why aren't you splitting this slider into 1/1+circle like the previous ones anymore? o:
22. Another thing I mentioned in irc already but you didn't respond, why do you leave out notes from the main-melody-line like 03:31:233 but randomly map some of the perma-background-1/4s like 03:31:638 -? Also your NCing in this section seems completely random so maybe try to bring structure into that too, tho I guess that's hard without bringing structure into the 1/4s first
23. 03:48:669 (3) - 03:50:244 (3) - Again I feel like NCs on these would fit very nicely for strong and equal emphasis on equally strong notes, and not having any on 03:51:036 (5) seems out of place anyways
24. 03:53:542 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - uhmm I can kinda see what the reason for the NCing here is, but just let me tell you that it seems messy as fuck so I'd really recommend to make it a bit more.. logical, like, 03:53:728 (1,2,3,1,2,3) being two 3-object-combos in a musical pattern that only consists of groups of 4 does not fit at all, I guess it would already feel a lot more fitting if you simply don't NC 03:53:728 bc there's really no reason at all for that, and with that not being NCd everything else seems a bit more reasonable
25. 04:04:528 (1) - 04:05:344 (1) - Those being NCd doesn't seem very fitting to me, especially after 04:02:894 (1,2,3) being in one combo too
26. 04:47:213 - seems like the volume here is 10% too high on accident
27. 05:26:379 (2,1) - wth lol, I do see that that blue tick is much louder than the white tick for some reason but really this is weird as fuck and if you just map it normally the hitsounds are much too loud to notice that anyways so I'd suggest mapping it normally xd
28. 05:28:378 (1,2,3) - :thinkgin.. (it's 3, the blanket looks very off)
29. 05:35:570 (1,1,2,3,1,1) - Same issue as before but pointing it out again to make sure, you see, even visually this bundles 05:35:831 (3,1) together but seperates 05:35:919 (1,1) which is the exact opposite of what's happening in the music, I understand that you wanna emphasize 05:35:657 (1,2,3) more than the previous notes, but I strongly recommend to try finding another way to do that that still allows you to seperate these combos/sections fittingly
30. 05:45:824 - You 5%-ed other overmapped tails like this before, why not this one too?
31. 05:47:800 (6) - Shouldn't this be NC'd and in the not-so-fresh green? xd
32. 05:50:451 - NCing in this section is all over the place, like why is 05:54:285 (1) NC'd and why not 05:55:087 (3) but why 05:55:491 (1) - blabla, just try to bring some more structure into it yourself, also I don't feel like it's necessary to NC 05:52:402 (1,1) but whatever
33. 05:57:788 - I didn't double-check but I feel like everytime this section occurs you found a different way to NC it lol
34. 06:03:683 (2) - Feels weird to not put a Whistle on this when it's emphasized just as much as the other notes, I'd rather break the hitsounding-pattern in order to match the gameplay tbh
35. 06:19:154 (1,1,2,1) - Not 100% sure about this but I feel like this will be more playable if you let these reverse five times instead of using circles, like, it doesn't really change how it will be read because someone who would misread the five reverses as four would also misread the four reverses as three; Since the speed of those reverses is higher anyways I think players are less likely to focus on the amount of reverses but simply on the time-gap to the next clickable note, which is shorter when you insert those circles, while it stays the same when jsut using five reverses (bc the rhythm is actually accurate 1/5s to the same BPM)
36. 06:22:113 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - (and a few more 1s) - I don't really get what your Clap-structure is here, I'd just go for always putting Claps on either the first or the second note of the big intervals, so either of 06:23:070 (1,1) and 06:23:896 (1,1) and 06:25:344 (1,1) and 06:25:857 (1,1) and 06:26:456 (1,1) and 06:26:862 (1,1) and 06:27:221 (1,1) - Personally it seems like musically the accentuation is more on the low/first ones of the two, but if you place them on the high/last of the two then you end this pattern with a Clap which might be something you like, so idc ^^
37. 06:45:619 (1,1) - not really important so feel free to ignore: Related to some previous point, here the two (1)s are visually more separated than 06:45:526 (4,1) which is kinda not what's really happening in the music ofc, so maybe not putting that jump between the (1)s and instead just DSing regularly would be cool for you, but I can't recall if that would apply to more streams that just this final one (it probably does), so that's why you can freely ignore it if it does
38. 06:49:403 (1,1) - Highly personal-taste-suggestion again but I feel like it would fit to place these on the borders of the playfield for maximum emphasis ^^

1. Oko apparently gave you an improper blank hitsound-file lol, here's a proper one
2. A few red lines and green lines on the same spot have conflicting settings:
   1. 01:00:053 (kiai)
   2. 04:06:676 (volume level)
   3. 04:55:591 (kiai)
3. These green lines aren't snapped properly, some of them being too late so they don't give the desired effect for the right note so they might actually matter I guess
   
   1. 01:09:011
   2. 03:51:827
   3. 05:30:455
   4. 06:17:722
   5. 06:18:079
   6. 06:18:436
   7. 06:39:213