2016-09-28 14:24 Miryle: If you wanna, you can now
2016-09-28 14:25 Miryle: Though idk if you wanna play it first since I changed quite a bit
2016-09-28 14:26 Net0: 00:03:615 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-09-28 14:26 Net0: when you're starting a map
2016-09-28 14:26 Net0: the player won't know the bpm, ar, etc
2016-09-28 14:27 Net0: you probably want to start the first combo or at least the first 10 seconds
2016-09-28 14:27 Net0: using a constant spacing
2016-09-28 14:27 Net0: 00:10:079 (1) -
2016-09-28 14:27 Miryle: Okay
2016-09-28 14:27 Net0: This is a good point to start making variations
2016-09-28 14:28 Miryle: Variations as in?
2016-09-28 14:28 Net0: spacing
2016-09-28 14:28 Miryle: Ah
2016-09-28 14:28 Net0: this is 0,99x apart
2016-09-28 14:28 Net0: 00:03:615 (1,2) -
2016-09-28 14:28 Net0: 00:05:231 (3,4) -
2016-09-28 14:28 Net0: This is 0,90x
2016-09-28 14:29 Net0: 00:05:231 (3,4) -
2016-09-28 14:29 Net0: ops 00:06:039 (4,5,1) -
2016-09-28 14:29 Net0: And the next ones just go even more spaced
2016-09-28 14:29 Net0: this is not mandatory
2016-09-28 14:29 Net0: I'm just recommending that you make at least the first two combos more consistent in terms of spacing
2016-09-28 14:30 Miryle: Okay will do
2016-09-28 14:30 Net0: so that the person knows better what's he/she is playing
2016-09-28 14:30 Net0: you also want to check Aibot whenever you finish making the modifications on your map
2016-09-28 14:30 Net0: to make sure everything is correct
2016-09-28 14:31 Net0: it seems there're some objects not snapped correctly
2016-09-28 14:31 Net0: 00:45:602 (1) -
2016-09-28 14:31 Net0: 03:16:366 (3) -
2016-09-28 14:31 Net0: 05:09:549 (2) -
2016-09-28 14:31 Net0: 05:09:549 (2) -
2016-09-28 14:32 Miryle: I think I just fixed those
2016-09-28 14:32 Net0: ok
2016-09-28 14:32 Net0: moving on
2016-09-28 14:32 Net0: 00:16:342 (1,2) -
2016-09-28 14:32 Net0: try to stack this
2016-09-28 14:33 Net0: and tell me if you think it fits better
2016-09-28 14:33 Miryle: I don't
2016-09-28 14:33 Miryle: I'd rather it not be stacked
2016-09-28 14:34 Net0: you could improve the structure of this pattern
2016-09-28 14:34 Net0: by stacking this
2016-09-28 14:34 Net0: 00:16:544 (2,5) -
2016-09-28 14:35 Net0: distance here could be smaller as well 00:19:776 (1,2,3) -
2016-09-28 14:35 Net0: the song is really slow right now, and making a triple that big in spacing gives the wrong impression of difficulty
2016-09-28 14:36 Miryle: Agreed with both, fixed both
2016-09-28 14:36 Net0: rotate this 00:22:200 (7) -
2016-09-28 14:36 Net0: -15°
2016-09-28 14:37 Net0: for two reasons
2016-09-28 14:37 Net0: this will make it look like this two are blanket 00:21:392 (5,7) -
2016-09-28 14:37 Net0: also to make
2016-09-28 14:37 Net0: both sliders ends near each other
2016-09-28 14:37 Net0: 00:20:584 (4,7) -
2016-09-28 14:37 Net0: To improve structure overall
2016-09-28 14:37 Miryle: Alright, done :3
2016-09-28 14:38 Net0: stack this
2016-09-28 14:38 Net0: 00:20:584 (4,8) -
2016-09-28 14:38 Net0: to make the spacing a bit bigger after rotation
2016-09-28 14:38 Net0: the same idea goes for this
2016-09-28 14:38 Net0: 00:23:008 (1,6) -
2016-09-28 14:39 Net0: make 6 the same spot as the sliderend
2016-09-28 14:39 Miryle: Stacked it with end of 00:20:584 (4) -
2016-09-28 14:39 Net0: no this one 00:22:806 (8) -
2016-09-28 14:39 Net0: is with sliderhead
2016-09-28 14:40 Miryle: Ah okay
2016-09-28 14:40 Miryle: I see now
2016-09-28 14:40 Miryle: Done
2016-09-28 14:41 Net0: i recommend that you don't overlap this 00:29:069 (4,1) -
2016-09-28 14:42 Miryle: Agreed, fixed
2016-09-28 14:42 Net0: same goes for this 00:39:170 (1,3) -
2016-09-28 14:42 Net0: you could either stack it with
2016-09-28 14:42 Net0: 00:39:170 (1,1) -
2016-09-28 14:43 Net0: About the spacing here
2016-09-28 14:43 Net0: 00:43:602 (3,4,5) -
2016-09-28 14:43 Net0: I saw that you want to give emphasis to the vocal using spacing
2016-09-28 14:43 Net0: but the difference is really hhuge
2016-09-28 14:45 Net0: Sorry
2016-09-28 14:45 Net0: Internet dc
2016-09-28 14:46 Net0: where did we stop?
2016-09-28 14:46 Miryle: Np
2016-09-28 14:46 Miryle: Emphasis on vocals using spacing
2016-09-28 14:46 Net0: Oh yeah
2016-09-28 14:47 Net0: Mostly you can make that, however the jump here is too big
2016-09-28 14:47 Net0: 00:43:802 (4,5) -
2016-09-28 14:47 Net0: specially considering
2016-09-28 14:47 Net0: this patter here
2016-09-28 14:47 Net0: 00:44:802 (1,2,3,4,1) -
2016-09-28 14:47 Net0: wich is the same musical phrase
2016-09-28 14:47 Net0: which*
2016-09-28 14:48 Net0: My recommendation is
2016-09-28 14:48 Net0: move this 00:44:002 (5) -
2016-09-28 14:48 Net0: to x: 248 y:320
2016-09-28 14:48 Net0: and make sure that this blankets 00:43:202 (2,5) -
2016-09-28 14:49 Miryle: Done
2016-09-28 14:50 Net0: this calls for a finish imo 00:57:308 (1) -
2016-09-28 14:50 Net0: the impact there is really strong
2016-09-28 14:51 Net0: a finish hitsound fits very much there
2016-09-28 14:51 Miryle: agreed, added
2016-09-28 14:51 Net0: also now that you added it there make sure you use it according to a structure on the song
2016-09-28 14:52 Net0: for example, since you used it here
2016-09-28 14:52 Net0: 00:57:308 (1) -
2016-09-28 14:52 Miryle: 01:00:131 (1) - here too
2016-09-28 14:52 Net0: you could probably use it here as well 01:02:955 (1) -
2016-09-28 14:52 Miryle: right>
2016-09-28 14:52 Net0: Yeah that's also a possibility
2016-09-28 14:52 Net0: you can make it every big white tick
2016-09-28 14:52 Net0: or every two
2016-09-28 14:52 Net0: its up to you
2016-09-28 14:53 Miryle: I like the idea so I'll do that
2016-09-28 14:53 Net0: the spacing here should be the same :/ 00:58:013 (3,4,5) -
2016-09-28 14:54 Net0: and it is
2016-09-28 14:54 Net0: o.O
2016-09-28 14:54 Net0: Nevermind this
2016-09-28 14:54 Miryle: xD
2016-09-28 14:55 Net0: this slider could be a straight one
2016-09-28 14:55 Net0: 01:05:072 (8) -
2016-09-28 14:55 Net0: to make this symmetric 01:04:543 (5,6,7,8) -
2016-09-28 14:56 Miryle: wtf
2016-09-28 14:56 Miryle: i can't ctrl-z
2016-09-28 14:56 Miryle: D: I FORGOT WHAT I DID
2016-09-28 14:56 Net0: what do you mean?
2016-09-28 14:56 Net0: o.o
2016-09-28 14:56 Miryle: Like
2016-09-28 14:56 Miryle: I changed that slider you said nevermind to
2016-09-28 14:57 Miryle: because I also didn't notice
2016-09-28 14:57 Miryle: then you said it was wrong
2016-09-28 14:57 Miryle: then I noticed it was wrong
2016-09-28 14:57 Miryle: Now I can't undo it for some reason
2016-09-28 14:57 Net0: that's strange
2016-09-28 14:57 Net0: also the nevermind was about the spacing not the slider
2016-09-28 14:57 Net0: the slider here
2016-09-28 14:57 Miryle: What coords was it
2016-09-28 14:57 Net0: 01:05:072 (8) -
2016-09-28 14:57 Net0: I mention that this slider could be straight one
2016-09-28 14:58 Miryle: Agreed, changed
2016-09-28 14:58 Net0: stack this 01:08:425 (3) -
2016-09-28 14:58 Net0: with this
2016-09-28 14:59 Net0: 01:07:896 (7) -
2016-09-28 14:59 Net0: and ctrol+g this slider
2016-09-28 14:59 Net0: 01:08:602 (1) -
2016-09-28 15:01 Miryle: Agreed, done
2016-09-28 15:01 Net0: xD
2016-09-28 15:01 Net0: 01:18:484 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
2016-09-28 15:02 Net0: You made a pattern here that is increasing intensity I suppose
2016-09-28 15:02 Miryle: I tried ._.
2016-09-28 15:02 Net0: ok I few tips
2016-09-28 15:02 Net0: make the increase here more logical 01:19:013 (6,7,8,9,10) -
2016-09-28 15:02 Net0: there are two things you could have done
2016-09-28 15:03 Net0: either used a geometric form and increase the distances
2016-09-28 15:03 Net0: or use continuous DS grow of value
2016-09-28 15:03 Net0: like 1,5x/2,0x/2,5x/3,0x
2016-09-28 15:03 Miryle: I see
2016-09-28 15:03 Miryle: Okay I'll figure something out here for the moment
2016-09-28 15:03 Net0: also
2016-09-28 15:04 Net0: 01:19:366 (8,9,10) -
2016-09-28 15:04 Net0: from 8 to 9 the distance is bigger than from 9 to 10
2016-09-28 15:04 Net0: that kills the execution of your idea
2016-09-28 15:04 Net0: you can fix this pattern without worries
2016-09-28 15:07 Net0: move
2016-09-28 15:07 Net0: 01:19:366 (8) -
2016-09-28 15:07 Net0: to x:328 y: 216
2016-09-28 15:07 Miryle: Wait
2016-09-28 15:07 Miryle:
https://puu.sh/rqU6f/94e0b39a05.mp4 ?
2016-09-28 15:08 Net0: mp4?
2016-09-28 15:08 Miryle: Video
2016-09-28 15:08 Miryle: No sound
2016-09-28 15:08 Net0: let me show my suggestion first
2016-09-28 15:08 Miryle: Okay
2016-09-28 15:09 Net0: move 8 to that position
2016-09-28 15:09 Net0: and this 01:19:719 (10) - stack with this slider end
2016-09-28 15:09 Net0: 01:19:896 (1) -
2016-09-28 15:10 Net0: the anti-jump here will give a lot of impact 01:19:719 (10,1) -
2016-09-28 15:10 Net0: and creat difficulty when it calls for it
2016-09-28 15:10 Miryle: Doesn't that seem too intense for this part?
2016-09-28 15:10 Miryle: it's only a small increase in intensity imo, and what I had before I was also thinking of simplifying
2016-09-28 15:10 Net0: you can nerf the spacing there as well
2016-09-28 15:11 Net0: the pattern of back X seems good
2016-09-28 15:11 Net0: but the idea on the mp4 also works
2016-09-28 15:11 Miryle: I think I like the idea on the mp4 more
2016-09-28 15:11 Miryle: So I'mma use that
2016-09-28 15:12 Net0: np
2016-09-28 15:12 Net0: next
2016-09-28 15:12 Net0: 01:32:425 (3,4) -
2016-09-28 15:12 Net0: the sliderend here of 4 is making this look odd
2016-09-28 15:12 Net0: compared to the rest of the map so far
2016-09-28 15:13 Miryle: I agree x.x but idk how to change it so I left it
2016-09-28 15:14 Net0: lol
2016-09-28 15:14 Net0: just rotate it and change the points
2016-09-28 15:14 Net0: you should be able to do it
2016-09-28 15:15 Net0: about the jump pattern
2016-09-28 15:15 Net0: 01:40:719 (3,4) -
2016-09-28 15:15 Miryle:
https://puu.sh/rqUx9/11a43cdb6d.png ?
2016-09-28 15:15 Net0: this is too close
2016-09-28 15:15 Net0: looks way better
2016-09-28 15:15 Miryle: Okiedokes~
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: about the way you mapped the chorus
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: 01:48:131 (1,2,3) -
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: 01:48:660 (5,6,7) -
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: 01:49:543 (1,2,3) -
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: 01:50:072 (5,6,7) -
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: I'm not sure if triples are the best way to go
2016-09-28 15:16 Miryle: Hmm
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: you can clearly hear that the sounds here 01:48:131 (1,3) -
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: are stronger than
2016-09-28 15:16 Net0: 01:48:219 (2) -
2016-09-28 15:17 Miryle: Kickslider + circle?
2016-09-28 15:17 Net0: but mapping it as triple makes all of them with the same intensity
2016-09-28 15:17 Net0: you could probably keep the triples if you like them
2016-09-28 15:17 Net0: but you need do make sure that the hitsounds will express that
2016-09-28 15:17 Net0: 1 and 3 are stronger than 2
2016-09-28 15:17 Net0: for example clap for this
2016-09-28 15:17 Net0: 01:48:131 (1,3) -
2016-09-28 15:18 Net0: and then you add green point to low the volume of this 01:48:131 (1,3) -
2016-09-28 15:18 Net0: ops this 01:48:219 (2) -
2016-09-28 15:18 Miryle: I'd rather not have a clap on the first note
2016-09-28 15:18 Net0: you can use the hitsounds that you prefer
2016-09-28 15:19 Net0: but only make sure to express that 1 and 3 are stronger than 2
2016-09-28 15:19 Miryle: Okay, gotcha
2016-09-28 15:19 Miryle: I do like them so I'll keep them but change the hitsounds
2016-09-28 15:20 Net0: great
2016-09-28 15:20 Net0: overlap here 01:53:072 (3,1) -
2016-09-28 15:21 Miryle: Fixed
2016-09-28 15:21 Net0: flow here is kinda bad 01:55:013 (6,1) -
2016-09-28 15:21 Net0: this section is using sharp angles
2016-09-28 15:21 Net0: 01:54:308 (2,3,4,5,6) -
2016-09-28 15:22 Net0: but this is linear 01:55:013 (6,1) -
2016-09-28 15:22 Miryle: Rotated by 90 degrees
2016-09-28 15:22 Miryle: the triplets
2016-09-28 15:22 Net0: hmm ok
2016-09-28 15:23 Net0: but I'm not talking about triples here
2016-09-28 15:23 Net0: o.o
2016-09-28 15:23 Miryle: Oh
2016-09-28 15:23 Miryle: Well it flows better anyways if I rotate them so I'll keep that
2016-09-28 15:24 Net0: about this 01:55:896 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2016-09-28 15:24 Net0: I'd ctrol+g this pattern here 01:56:249 (6,7,8) -
2016-09-28 15:25 Net0: I'd also ctrol+g this 01:58:719 (3) -
2016-09-28 15:25 Miryle: Second one I agree with
2016-09-28 15:25 Miryle: First one not so much
2016-09-28 15:25 Miryle: I want it to be somewhat of a jump
2016-09-28 15:26 Net0: np
2016-09-28 15:28 Net0: stack this 02:44:602 (1,4) -
2016-09-28 15:28 Net0: NC to prevent SV changes 03:07:190 (2) -
2016-09-28 15:29 Miryle: Sec stack it with what
2016-09-28 15:29 Miryle: Also fixed NC
2016-09-28 15:30 Net0: stack this 03:17:778 (6,9) -
2016-09-28 15:30 Miryle: waitwaitwait ;-;
2016-09-28 15:30 Miryle: 02:45:837 (4) - stack this how?
2016-09-28 15:31 Net0: slider head of this 02:44:602 (1) -
2016-09-28 15:31 Net0: with slider end of this
2016-09-28 15:31 Net0: 02:45:837 (4) -
2016-09-28 15:31 Miryle: That breaks the blanket tho
2016-09-28 15:32 Net0: you'll have to change the slider
2016-09-28 15:32 Net0: to apply this
2016-09-28 15:32 Net0: just a structure tip
2016-09-28 15:32 Miryle: So
2016-09-28 15:33 Miryle: What if I leave 02:45:308 (3) - as it is?
2016-09-28 15:33 Miryle: Also 03:17:778 (6,9) - stacked
2016-09-28 15:33 Net0: ok moving on
2016-09-28 15:34 Net0: this will give you a lot of problems if you're really planning to rank
2016-09-28 15:34 Net0: 03:28:896 (7) -
2016-09-28 15:34 Net0: 1/16 sliders are controversal
2016-09-28 15:34 Net0: my advice is that you end it
2016-09-28 15:34 Net0: 03:28:984 -
2016-09-28 15:34 Net0: to keep the 1/8 polarity at least
2016-09-28 15:35 Miryle: Agreed
2016-09-28 15:35 Miryle: Fixed
2016-09-28 15:35 Net0: fix overlap
2016-09-28 15:35 Net0: 03:31:366 (5,7) -
2016-09-28 15:36 Net0: about the 1/16 sliders same idea applies to this
2016-09-28 15:36 Net0: 04:14:072 (3) -
2016-09-28 15:36 Miryle: Will fix
2016-09-28 15:37 Miryle: Stacked 03:31:366 (5) - with 03:31:719 (7) -
2016-09-28 15:37 Net0: you could just space it out a bit more
2016-09-28 15:37 Net0: don't need to change the position
2016-09-28 15:37 Net0: but do it the way you prefer
2016-09-28 15:37 Miryle: would ruit spacing consistency wouldn't it?
2016-09-28 15:38 Miryle: Meh on closer inspection that ruins it too
2016-09-28 15:38 Miryle: I'll just move it out like you said xD
2016-09-28 15:38 Miryle: Fixed~
2016-09-28 15:40 Net0: did you also fixed the slider?
2016-09-28 15:40 Net0: 04:14:072 (3) -
2016-09-28 15:40 Miryle: Yep
2016-09-28 15:40 Miryle: All fixed
2016-09-28 15:40 Net0: this could be stacked
2016-09-28 15:40 Net0: 04:41:249 (3,1) -
2016-09-28 15:40 Net0: slider end with circle
2016-09-28 15:41 Miryle: Yep, fixed
2016-09-28 15:41 Miryle: Moved the whole pattern to fit the change as well
2016-09-28 15:41 Net0: I couldn't really find anything else worth mentioning
2016-09-28 15:41 Net0: xD
2016-09-28 15:42 Net0: hopefully this helps
2016-09-28 15:42 Net0: o/
2016-09-28 15:43 Miryle: Yesh it really does :3
2016-09-28 15:43 Miryle: If you post it on the thread I'll kudosu ya~
2016-09-28 15:43 Net0: great