1. Desperation (4.92 stars, 918 notes)

Yukiyo wrote:

Remap

kdz pl0x





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Louis Cyphre wrote:

[General]
Fixed? - - There are no preview point

[Grotesque]
Fixed - 00:22:806 (8) - delete this note. There are no beats in this blue tick. And 1/4 is almost impossible to expect here
Fixed - 00:31:089 (5,6) - blanket
Fixed - 00:34:322 (1,2,3) - i suggest to do this wider, something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6210820
Fixed - 00:36:746 (3,4) - blanket
Fixed - 00:38:362 (7,8) - ^ etc
Fixed - 00:41:998 (2) - avoid a weird overlap and reconstruct the pattern somehow like this:
Fixed - 00:48:280 (5,1) - make this structure consistent, so that the behavior of both sliders go in exact way, somehow like this:https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6210861
Fixed - 01:04:013 (4) - avoid overlapping of repeat slider with previous slider
Fixed - 01:27:308 (4) - blanket
Fixed - 01:43:896 (3) - 1/8 jump, 6.84x. This is obvious overdone, don't do this
Fixed - 02:03:572 (3) - the overlap over previous slider start and end looks pretty weird, consider to re-make this pattern
Fixed? - 03:04:102 (1,2,3,4,5) - these notes are off rhythm. Either you use lots of red lines or just ignore this part, even if you time this properly it will be still weird
Was like that before but someone said it was bad, I'm changing it back since I liked it better that way anyways. Fixed - 03:28:896 (7) - +1 repeat
Fixed - 04:12:131 (1) - why is this 1/6 and others 1/8? Make it 1/8 too
Fixed - 04:54:484 (1) - extend till white tick
Fixed - 05:18:086 (6) - timing goes off...
Absolutely fixed~ - 05:18:846 (7) - absolutely off...

1. grotesque, labyrinth, miryle, miyoki, trivecta no need in tags cause is on title and artist, also don't add "," in tags, words will be separated by space only
2. 00:35:130 (3,1) - try to avoid overlap when you have lot of space, looks messy
3. 00:35:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to keep the same distance between each note
4. 00:43:802 (4,5) - if you reaslly want to increase distance here, I strongly recomend you to change 00:43:602 (3,4) - into slider
5. 00:48:662 (1) - why you are overlaping? I recommend you to move this slider to the left of 00:48:280 (5) -
6. 00:56:249 (1,2,2) - they shouldn't be touched, it's an unsightly pattern
7. 01:08:602 (1,2,3) - your patterns don't have any conection, why 01:09:308 (3) - is giving the back to 01:08:602 (1,2) - ? try to make at least something like this
8. 01:10:366 (7,9) - blanquet
9. 04:14:955 (1) - use more imagination pls, the current slider is unsightly
10. 04:28:366 (7) - why not something mirrored of 04:27:660 (6) - ? remove 04:28:366 (7) - , then copy 04:27:660 (6) - with ctrl+c and paste with ctrl+v at 04:28:366 -, when you are done, press ctrl+h and ctrl+j, try to use this kind of shorcuts to make more mirrored patterns like 00:58:013 (3,4,5) - 01:00:131 (1,2,3) - 01:17:072 (1,2) - etc...
11. try to avoid long combos and overlap, you have a lot of space and overlap 03:55:234 (1,3) -? pls

Nao Tomori wrote:

remap kds

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Hey M4M~~

[Grotesque]

Fixed - grotesque, labyrinth, miryle, miyoki, trivecta no need in tags cause is on title and artist, also don't add "," in tags, words will be separated by space only
Fixed - 00:35:130 (3,1) - try to avoid overlap when you have lot of space, looks messy
Fixed - 00:35:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to keep the same distance between each note
Fixed - 00:43:802 (4,5) - if you reaslly want to increase distance here, I strongly recomend you to change 00:43:602 (3,4) - into slider
Fixed - 00:48:662 (1) - why you are overlaping? I recommend you to move this slider to the left of 00:48:280 (5) -
Fixed - 00:56:249 (1,2,2) - they shouldn't be touched, it's an unsightly pattern
Fixed - 01:08:602 (1,2,3) - your patterns don't have any conection, why 01:09:308 (3) - is giving the back to 01:08:602 (1,2) - ? try to make at least something like this
Fixed - 01:10:366 (7,9) - blanquet
Fixed? - 04:14:955 (1) - use more imagination pls, the current slider is unsightly
Fixed - [*]04:28:366 (7) - why not something mirrored of 04:27:660 (6) - ? remove 04:28:366 (7) - , then copy 04:27:660 (6) - with ctrl+c and paste with ctrl+v at 04:28:366 -, when you are done, press ctrl+h and ctrl+j, try to use this kind of shorcuts to make more mirrored patterns like 00:58:013 (3,4,5) - 01:00:131 (1,2,3) - 01:17:072 (1,2) - etc...
Fixed - try to avoid long combos and overlap, you have a lot of space and overlap 03:55:234 (1,3) -? pls

hope to help you

Yukiyo wrote:

Nao Tomori wrote:

remap kds

Not cool bro

... not cool

rickyrox3 wrote:

m4m thing

dank memes - I mean mod

so I did a quick testplay (1:00 testplay best testplay)
very nice map to play

Grotesque

Fixed - 00:09:271 (4) - the degree of arc of this slider bothered me during testplay; it stood out apart from the first few sliders, and there is no reason to music-wise
00:16:342 (1,2) - stacking the circle on top of the slider makes it easier to read and play, in my opinion Denied - I want this to be a sort of lead in.
00:19:776 (1,2,3) - I felt as if the distance between these 3 and previous circle is a little too far, but I guess intro to vocals can support it. also, should probably make it a repeat slider since I thought it was a triple and I spaAAAaaAAm zxz Denied - There is no problem here. You just didn't read it correctly. Also, there is more than enough time for you to get to this point from the last circle.
00:26:039 (8,9,1) - still calm music so I think stack would be noice Denied. As I said before, I want a lead-in.
00:32:503 (8,1) - the blanket should be adjusted a bit
00:34:322 (1,2,3,4) - the symmetry makes the sudden fifth pitch change stand out, and I like that Thank you.~
00:44:802 (1,2,3,4) - still in the "calm" section, so I think sliders may be better. I won't mention from now on, but keep in mind? Denied - I like how it is now. The vocals are sharp and I feel justify an active note for each word/part of word spoken.
00:51:474 (8,1) - I feel as if the piano part should be played as a 1/8 triple, since it is very noticeable. Denied - The BPM change would make it feel weird. Anywhere else I would have done it, but just doesn't play right here. If more people bring it up I may reconsider.
Fixed - 00:59:425 (6,7,1) - blankets!11
01:02:072 (5,6,1) - I guess it's more appropriate to use spaced triple during this part Is that a suggestion or an observation? Either way I'm keeping this.
01:04:543 (5,6,7) - I somehow didnt find this to be a triple since it matched with the vocals, though I got like all 100 lol You're the only one so far~ keeping this.
Fixed - 01:06:484 (2,3,4) - when vocals do the "dudududu" I recommend making 2 a slider and starting the sliders from there, since the slider placed there right now would make it so the beat the vocals start doing the "dududududududu" stuff sound weak
01:18:484 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - oooooh I like this part. it matches with the instrumental, and it utilizes volume to determine distance Thank you~
Fixed using ctrl+g - 01:26:249 (2,3) - the transition, compared to the previous slider (1) and 2, is very broken and feels weird, although rhythmically correct
01:27:308 (4,5) - you can hear the subtle drums in the background, and I kind of want this area to use that Denied - I do use them: 01:30:660 (6,7,8,9), I just want to focus more on the vocals.
Agreed, fixed - 01:37:896 (4,5) - I dont understand why these 2 circles would not also be a slider... I thought it would be nice so you keep consistency, maybe repeat the whole set once more, but I like the jumps, however. they are very smooth for me.
Agreed with NC, but changed it so that it's a jump - 01:41:955 (8) - I think you should make new combo here, so you can tell that you are slowing down from the stream rather than doing a "triple-like repeat slider"
01:44:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I do not find any issue here, except maybe you can make the spacing a little more nerfed?? 1.4x DS to maybe 1.2x, since before during time like 01:41:602 (4,5,6,7,8) - it's building up, so it makes sense to make such distance Denied - They're already much closer than the triples later.
Remapped the whole area. Fixed - 01:52:896 (2,3,4,5,6) - they stay on the same volume, so I don't see why it wouldn't make sense to use same distance space but maybe do some rotations?
N/A - Change with above point - 01:53:425 (5,6,1) - blanket with 5 and 1, fix?
Fixed - 02:05:778 (3,4,1) - not sure if 1 and 3 are supposed to blanket, but if so, fix? if not, it's fine. 3 and 4, however, fix?
02:08:425 (2,3,4,5,6) - I'm looking at this, and the flow is completely fine, but maybe if you made it a perfect hexagon? If someone brings it up again, fine. But it looks close enough.
Fixed - 02:19:896 (4,5) - b l a n k e t
02:25:543 (2) - I focus more on the vocals' mixing, so change slider 2 to a stream of 5 (1/8) Denied - I want to emphasize the bass, the vocals here don't matter to me. If it's brought up again I may consider it.
Agreed, fixed - 02:36:131 (1) - I feel as if you can hold this out for 1 more 1/8 beat until the next slider, it feels much better for some reason
Fixed - 02:37:366 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - once again, you impress me with this cool effect. question is, why is there volume changes @ 9, 10, 11, but none there at previous cool effect at 01:18:484 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ?
02:45:308 (3,4) - transition okay since player should already get a feeling of what this area is like due to earlier part Cool~
02:53:778 (3,4,5) - I'm not saying simply vertical sliders are bad, but they remind me of, like, the old osu! mapping style... Part of the pattern, not changing it.
03:01:543 (9) - insert break afterwards?
Fixed? - 03:04:102 (1,2,3) - this is very difficult to read. I see that the 2 and 3 are 1/16 sliders, so make into repeat slider that goes back and forth to make easier
Fixed - 03:28:896 (7) - this repeat slider is too loud. reduce volume, please...
Added but not sure if it fits. I like the idea so I'll keep it. If anyone complains about it, it gets removed instantly. - 03:33:131 (2,3) - this area has a weird sound effect that stands out, and I think you should map according to it... so it would be a 1/8 triple and then a single circle after 1 beat
Fixed - 03:40:366 (8,9) - this is also difficult to read... maybe make 8 a repeating slider since no one would "expect" a slider at such a strange length
Fixed - 03:52:366 (1) - reduce volume, it doesn't fit in the context of the song, since we're close to reaching a point of the chorus repeat
Fixed? - 04:14:955 (1) - since the background makes this cool sound effect, maybe tweak the volume to follow same thing?
04:19:366 (6,7,8) - now, this I like, since it is a chorus repeat, thus increasing the slider velocity for more emphasis Thank you~
Fixed - 04:25:366 (5,6,7,8) - this is a strange rhythm, and no one would expect it, so make 8 right after slider 7 to show that
Fixed - 04:36:660 (4,5,6,7,8) - also another strange rhythm... try to find a way to make the player be able to sightread it smoothly (maybe use slider)
Fixed - 04:43:720 (2,3,4) - the triple isnt equally spaced out. 2 -> 3 =/= 3 -> 4
Implemented repeating slider, fixed - 04:47:072 (6,7) - make a repeating slider, I would recommend, but still playable, so I wouldn't worry too much about it
04:52:366 (2,3,4) - cool 1/12 rhythm with a predictable path... nice :3 Thanks~
Agreed, implemented - 04:54:484 (1) - neat design, but one suggestion: since the music is slowly returning to the slow part, gradually reduce volume
Fixed - 05:07:318 (3,4) - blanket
05:11:539 (6,1) - should stack 6 on 1, especially since the tempo is slowing down, so it wouldn't cause players to worry about mistimed hitting Denied - As stated in the beginning, I want this to be a sort of lead-in.
Made it a bit clearer and cleaner - 05:14:630 (5,6,7,1) - strange distant spacing... although I might interpret it as a way of indicating more tempo slowing
Fixed - 05:21:610 (1) - slow this down to 25% speed and try listening to it... obviously, it is off by a little. moving it to 1/16 beat later would make it sound nicer, or you could set another timing point there, but I'm not very strong in finding the bpm of a slowing area of a song...

Nao Tomori wrote:

grotesque

this diff name is... eh. it seems not to fit with a calm song like this, but it isn't anything major.

i really like the hitsounding. Thank you~

i think that your rhythm choice throughout is pretty good, but i'm going to point out some things that i think could be improved for the first part of the mod.
note: these are kind of in random order

Added kicksliders, fixed - 04:38:249 (2,3,4) - here, you put down a 1/1 slider *shit its actually 1/2 but im just gonna assume its double bpm dont mind me*. nothing inherently wrong with that. but, the slider end covers the start of a "burst" in the song. putting a note that needs emphasis on the end of a slider makes it seem like the map isn't following the music too well. now, obviously there's a hitsound for the slider end. but it's important to let the player click on those important notes and not just let go of a slider.
a rhythm like http://puu.sh/rtR4N/8b1c94d10b.jpg this could make it better, or even a 4 note burst. just remember to mute that slider end.


00:14:120 (2) - there isn't much under this note, i think you can delete it and just follow the piano that you were following. Denied - Would ruin flow, and there is the low piano note there.

00:51:572 - this could be a triple here to follow the piano. Denied - The BPM change makes it sound awkward. I'll keep it as it is.

Fixed in the mod below - 01:06:837 - here the "duh duh duh duh" thingy starts. you could consider putting clickable objects there.

04:17:690 - you could drop something here too Idk when you last updated the map but there is a sliderhead there, forgive me if I don't understand what you're saying.

04:47:190 (7) - here i would question why there's a slider. all the sounds seem equally strong, so i think it should be mapped as 3 circles. Same as above

Fixed - 04:50:955 (8,9) - i think these are the same sound. kind of. i definitely dont think it needs such a big jump since 9 is basically a continuation of 8 (from what i hear.)

Remapped that area. Fixed - 05:01:190 (4,5) - you could make these into a slider or something, this rhythm is kind of intense compared to the actual intensity of the song (really low.) especially because even in kiai time you were using fairly low-intensity rhythms like circle + 1/1 slider or 1/1 slider into triple into 1/1 slider again.


Fixed - 05:13:856 - you seemed to have been following the high piano for some time, it switches to low piano on the slider after this? only for that slider though. you should make it consistent by following the high piano here.

okay those were most of the rhythm changes or errors that i found.

of course, a map is not just a bunch of correct rhythm. aesthetics (read: looking nice) is also pretty important for a good map.
that includes copying sliders so they look nice together, blanketing, using smooth looking sliders, stuff like that. i'll point out some things that i found, which you may want to revise.

Fixed - 00:07:655 (2) - you could move this up like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6218656
that way the cursor moves straight into the slider. this is a really minor thing.

Fixed - 00:09:271 (4) - you appear to have randomly changed slider shapes, even though you were copying them all before. imo you should stick with the same slider shape...

Fixed - 00:24:625 (4,5,6,7) - this line is like slightly not straight for some reason

Fixed - 00:31:897 (7) - in its current state, 7 looks like it should be placed more like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6218666

Fixed - 00:33:513 (3) - random slider change again.

Fixed most of it, some may have slipped through, also remapped a bit of it - ok enough with the intro you get the idea

Fixed - 01:52:896 (2,3,4,5,6) - this kind of thing tends to look kind of lazy, even if the spacing increase makes sense. you could try rotating them slightly as they get bigger (aka fycho pp jumps xD)

Fixed? They don't overlap anymore so~ 02:03:660 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the overlapping circles here make it look kind of messy. the spacing makes sense, but you could move them around a little to ensure that they arent randomly overlapping.

Fixed all blankets (I think) - ok so overlaps are messy basically
03:10:013 (1) -
03:14:955 (7) - these blankets are off. that's basically unrankable and calls for a nuked mapset.
(kappa)

you should check on all of them, even though its super minor, a bad blanket is something easy to fix that looks weird.


some other stuff
Fixed - 03:51:660 (5) - this appears to be the biggest jump in the map, i don't think it's the most intense part though ._. check that out.

Fixed- 04:44:425 (7) - these are also really big jumps even though theyre on super quiet sounds. i would reconsider.

this map has nice rhythm basically but your aesthetics look kind of eh. nothing some rotation and copypasting wouldn't fix =

• ok first off, your intro seems really unpolished, its really calm and slow in the song, but your mapping does not reflect that.

1. 00:03:615 (1,2,3,4) - these slider shapes arent the same. due to the calmness of the music, they should be. Simply copy paste and rotate the sliders and find something simple that works (there is no one right way to do this)
2. 00:06:645 (5,1) - i would recommend stacking these, the change in tone is very slight, so stacking is ideal
3. 00:07:655 (2,3) - while this is technically speaking OK, you haven't used this type of pattern anywhere else in the intro. This means it is inconsistent, or unstructured with the rest of the map. Id HIGHLY recommend changing this so that the patterns become consistent with each other - how you do that is up to you (remember consistent =/= same. Just similar)
4. 00:09:877 (5,1) - big jump here, music does not reflect that. Id suggest doing something along the lines of this.
   thing

   
   but as long as you remain consistent with the pattern you choose, you should be ok.
5. 00:16:342 (1) - if you stack this with 00:14:928 (4) - its easier for players to predict how your map is going to go, while this is not essential, i think it is still worth considering.
6. 00:19:372 (7,1) - too big of a jump
7. 00:24:221 (3,4,5) - maybe make this a perfect triangle?
8. 00:30:887 (4,5) - inconsistency in spacing
9. 00:31:089 (5,6,7) - flow here can be improved. try something like this
   thing

   
10. 00:35:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this is good!
11. 00:44:602 (5,1,2,3,4) - inconsistency in spacing, even tho i get what you tried to do, i dont think its good.
12. 00:51:474 (8) - make a slider for piano?
13. 00:56:249 (1) - not having this in the exact centre is triggering me a lil xd
    thats all for the intro, the biggest problem is structure, or lack of it. Try and use similar shapes and patterns in how you map the song, and youll find it looks and plays a whole lot better!
    
    For the main part of the song, ill just point out things that stood out to me when playing through it. Once youve got the intro a lot better, you should be able to go over the whole map and improve it yourself!
14. 01:19:543 (9,10,1) - this spacing feels not so good, so id recommend changing the way this pattern works. Instead of going down up down up etc, id would be better if you reversed that, so that it goes up down up down up down etc. (if that makes no sense to you poke me and ill clarify)
15. 01:41:602 (4,5,6,7,1) - stream isnt consistent in spacing.
16. 01:45:308 (1,2,3,4) - this played bad, adjust spacing.
17. 01:49:543 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing
18. 03:00:131 - the wub sound starts here, so maybe start a slider here?
19. 03:01:366 - unmaped sound, maybe throw in a note that stacks with 03:01:543 (9) -
20. 03:04:102 (1) - i think this is incorrectly snapped
21. 03:14:778 (6) - this not being in the exact middle of 03:14:249 (5,7) - annoyed me
22. 03:18:484 (1) - why did you stack this, keep a consistent pattern
23. 04:01:543 (2,3) - i think these are too close together
24. 04:52:366 (2,3,4) - this rhythm was hard to acc - maybe turn it into a slider?

NucleaRaven wrote:

hi m4m!

[Desparation]
ok first off, your intro seems really unpolished, its really calm and slow in the song, but your mapping does not reflect that.
Fixed - 00:03:615 (1,2,3,4) - these slider shapes arent the same. due to the calmness of the music, they should be. Simply copy paste and rotate the sliders and find something simple that works (there is no one right way to do this)
Fixed 00:06:645 (5,1) - i would recommend stacking these, the change in tone is very slight, so stacking is ideal
Fixed 00:07:655 (2,3) - while this is technically speaking OK, you haven't used this type of pattern anywhere else in the intro. This means it is inconsistent, or unstructured with the rest of the map. Id HIGHLY recommend changing this so that the patterns become consistent with each other - how you do that is up to you (remember consistent =/= same. Just similar)
Fixed 00:09:877 (5,1) - big jump here, music does not reflect that. Id suggest doing something along the lines of this.

thing

but as long as you remain consistent with the pattern you choose, you should be ok.

00:16:342 (1) - if you stack this with 00:14:928 (4) - its easier for players to predict how your map is going to go, while this is not essential, i think it is still worth considering. Denied - Read previous mods. This is intentional.
00:19:372 (7,1) - too big of a jump Denied - You have enough time to get there. Plus the piano starts on a high pitch and goes downwards. I'm keeping it.
00:24:221 (3,4,5) - maybe make this a perfect triangle? Denied - How do you even make a "perfect triangle?" It's fine how it is.
00:30:887 (4,5) - inconsistency in spacing Denied - This is intentional. I'm following the vocalist.
Fixed -00:31:089 (5,6,7) - flow here can be improved. try something like this

thing

00:35:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this is good! Thank you.~
Agreed, fixed - 00:44:602 (5,1,2,3,4) - inconsistency in spacing, even tho i get what you tried to do, i dont think its good.
Agreed, fixed - 00:51:474 (8) - make a slider for piano?
00:56:249 (1) - not having this in the exact centre is triggering me a lil xd Get over it lol.
thats all for the intro, the biggest problem is structure, or lack of it. Try and use similar shapes and patterns in how you map the song, and youll find it looks and plays a whole lot better! Pretty sure I fixed it now, thanks!

For the main part of the song, ill just point out things that stood out to me when playing through it. Once youve got the intro a lot better, you should be able to go over the whole map and improve it yourself!
Fixed - 01:19:543 (9,10,1) - this spacing feels not so good, so id recommend changing the way this pattern works. Instead of going down up down up etc, id would be better if you reversed that, so that it goes up down up down up down etc. (if that makes no sense to you poke me and ill clarify)
Fixed - 01:41:602 (4,5,6,7,1) - stream isnt consistent in spacing.
Fixed - 01:45:308 (1,2,3,4) - this played bad, adjust spacing.
Fixed and a couple other triplets- 01:49:543 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing
03:00:131 - the wub sound starts here, so maybe start a slider here? Denied - It's more noticeable on 03:00:308, so I will keep it as is.
03:01:366 - unmaped sound, maybe throw in a note that stacks with 03:01:543 (9) - Denied - There is no sound there. I have no idea what you're talking about.
03:04:102 (1) - i think this is incorrectly snapped - This is snapped, 03:05:028 (4) isn't. Fixed.
Fixed - 03:14:778 (6) - this not being in the exact middle of 03:14:249 (5,7) - annoyed me
03:18:484 (1) - why did you stack this, keep a consistent pattern Denied - This is to better ease the player into the next part. I like it, I'm keeping it.
04:01:543 (2,3) - i think these are too close together Denied - That was intentional. To set up the jump at 04:03:484 (6,1).
04:52:366 (2,3,4) - this rhythm was hard to acc - maybe turn it into a slider? Denied - I like it because of the pattern and it it's not impossible to acc, I can acc it pretty well (though that might be because I made the map). If it's brought up again, I'll consider changing it.
whew now that was a nice goddamn song hoyl. Although the map can be polished and improved quite a bit, youve actually done a really good job mapping some parts of it! so good job~~

After youve applied the changes, and improved the map as a whole, feel free to call me back and ill go over it with you again if you so wish ^^.

Gl with this map!

NeBuSC2 wrote:

hi again from M4M (I fucking reloaded page with half-made mod, im so done...):

00:04:423 (2) - Make it same look as the three sliders beside (00:06:847 (1,2,3,4) - you did it for example here) Fixed! Also spotted a blanket that was off, so double fix!

00:36:544 (2) - Remove circle and make 00:35:938 (1) - longer. Kinda boring repetitive rhythm, the long slider can fit here because of voice going up. Denied – I like this rhythm, even if it’s repetitive. It sets up the jump at 00:38:968 (8,1).

00:44:602 (5,1,2,3,4) - Maybe smaller distance snap, looks kinda weird. Agreed, fixed!
01:14:955 (2,3,4) - Make it triangle look by moving 01:15:308 (3) - or at least blanket to 01:14:249 (1) – Fixed!

01:18:837 (5,6) - ctrl+r+shift and rotate by 5 – It does look nice but it ruins the consistency of 01:18:484 (3,5,7,9). If you have a different idea I’d be happy to hear it.~
01:19:190 (7,8) - ^ and rotate by 10 - ^
01:19:543 (9,10) - ^ and rotate by 15 - will give some cool look here. - ^

01:20:602 (2) - You can improve slider ball here when it touch the slider wall on red tick. Small thing but easy to fix. Fixed I think, I’m really not sure what you mean but I blanketed better and aligned the slider head and tails of 01:21:308 (2,1).

01:27:308 (4) - Improve blanket. Fixed!

01:30:660 (6,7,8) - Weird distance snap [?] Fixed! Also made it flow better.

01:34:013 (1) - Same with slider ball, cool slider but here you can hear more background sounds, so can be improved (red,white,red ticks) - but not needed. Your choice. Denied – Following vocals here, so not gonna change it.

01:37:190 (2) - rotate by 15
01:37:896 (4) - rotate by -15 - the placement now is boring, you can improve it. Okay for these two points I just Ctrl+G’d 01:36:837 (1,2).

01:39:484 (4) - Overlap, can be avoided. Fixed!

01:43:896 (3,1,2,3) - uhm... it won't get ranked. Kinda unplayable and hard to hit. Something like this at least (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6224496) Fixed!

02:07:013 (2,3) - I would ctrl+g the rhythm, fits cool when the slider starts on this sound in background.
02:12:660 (6,7) - Same here. Denied – I like the way it is now, I want these parts to be really flowy and nice to play but the chorus and stuff to break flow often.

03:17:955 (7,8,9) - Make the rotation trick here too, just move 03:18:308 (9) - between 03:17:602 (4,5,6) - and 03:17:955 (7) – Agreed, but not in the position you mentioned.~ So semi-fixed.

03:25:190 (4) - Would ctrl+g – Denied, definitely not. I love this part and I won’t change anything on how the player taps this part out or how it flows. Sorry.

04:29:072 (1) - Weird slider. It’s for the wubs.

04:32:425 (2,3,4) - Make it triangle by moving 04:32:425 (2) - you'll get cooler look 04:31:896 (1,2) - 04:32:778 (4) - in this part and 04:32:425 (2,3,4) – Fixed!

04:33:308 (5) – NC – Fixed!

04:33:837 (6) - x:304 y:312~~ Nope! This note stacks with 04:34:719 (1).

04:54:484 (1) - Like this one. Thank you.~ I think that was a complement? Idk. xD

Overall I love the song, is so chill when there's no dubstep part. Love it. Hope I somehow helped you, gl hf in ranking this one!

Miryle wrote:

NeBuSC2 wrote:

01:18:837 (5,6) - ctrl+r+shift and rotate by 5 – It does look nice but it ruins the consistency of 01:18:484 (3,5,7,9). If you have a different idea I’d be happy to hear it.~
01:19:190 (7,8) - ^ and rotate by 10 - ^
01:19:543 (9,10) - ^ and rotate by 15 - will give some cool look here. - ^

NeBuSC2 wrote:

It doesn't at all - it will make 01:18:660 (4,6,8,10) - easier to hit and give 01:18:484 (3,5,7,9) - better look without changing playability. And after all it's going into slow part. But it's your choice, it was only suggestion.

Still, gl!

yaleufeu wrote:

M4M from #modreqs

Desperation

00:16:544 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Why is the spacing not consistent like you did before ? Increasing intensity of the music. I don’t want it to be constantly cramped, even if it is calm. If brought up again I may consider changing it.
00:20:180 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ - ^

00:23:817 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think you can do something better, by playing with the instrumental music. The instrumental here is going up & down, so I think you can do something like this Agreed, changed!~

00:45:610 (1) - I think you can make that slider stop at the blue tick, since you are mapping the voice, it will follow the voice better – I disagree. I’m keeping it like it is.

01:00:131 (1) - CTRL+G flows better – I disagree with this too, keeping it as it is.

01:00:837 (3,1,2) - Weirdo flow, you should move the 1 somewhere else – Agreed, fixed!

01:06:484 (2,3,4) - Spacing must be consistent, the sound's the same, moreover, why 01:05:072 (8,2) - has a lower distance than 01:06:484 (2,3) - Disagree, the sound is different. Even the lyrics are different. She says “dos” at 01:06:484 (2) and “t-t-t-t” which before would have been tres (3) at 01:06:837 (3,4). I’m keeping it as it is. Also the sounds are different. Dos is a full word while at 01:06:837 (3,4) the artist uses vocal cuts. I’m keeping it how it is unless brought up again.

01:08:249 (2,1) - You could've done a blanket there, it will avoid the overlap 01:08:249 (2,3) – This was changed before you modded.~

01:19:896 (1,2) - You could've done something like this, I think it looks better – Agreed, fixed!

01:21:308 (2,1) - If you followed the last mod, something like this would be better (don't forget to move the other sliders after) – Yep, fixed!

01:33:837 (5,1) - Up the distance between thoses, highlight sound at the 1 – Fixed!

01:38:249 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I think theses jumps needs some rework, it feels random, so I'll just suggest you a jump I made here : 1 2 3 4 – Nope! These jumps were placed according to a pattern! I wanted 01:38:778 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2) to flip the player around to continue to the other side of the map~

01:45:837 (2,6) - Overlap can be avoided – Fixed!

01:46:013 (3,5) - Blanket them – Fixed!

01:47:425 (8,1) - Overlap can be avoided – Fixed!

01:48:660 (5,6,7) - Spacing of theses triples are not the same as the others – Fixed!

02:32:778 (9,2) - Stack them and blanket 02:32:778 (9,10) - it will avoid the overlap - Fixed!


02:50:249 (1,4) - Stack, blanket and you will avoid another overlap – Fixed!

02:53:778 (3,4,5) - Flow's not good there, I suggest you changing it – I disagree, nobody else has complained about this flow, and I think it’s fine for this part. I’m keeping it as it is.

03:51:308 (4,5) - Why does the spacing up so much, the sound's getting weaker but you're boosting up the spacing – Because the intensity of the entire section is increasing. Those notes are also on vocals, hence spacing.

04:13:190 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The spacing is really weird, 04:14:778 (6,1) - should have the highest spacing since the 1 is a highlight sound, and I don't know why 04:13:190 (4,1) - are spaced so much each other – Fixed all of it!

04:45:837 (7,1) - Highlight sound, the spacing's too low compared to what you're done before. - True, but I put a massive flow break instead there, I did it here too: 04:46:896 (5,6,1) . If brought up again I will change it.

Good luck !

_Kise wrote:

Desparation
► 00:03:615 (1) - i would suggest you recuding ds by moving first slider somewhere 280 56 so ds is 1,10x – Fixed!
► 00:06:847 (1) - use same sliders (copy paste) because 00:07:655 (2) – differs – Fixed!
► 00:19:372 (6,1) - maybe reduce ds here? it's 1/2 and you make such a big jump – Ugh, so many people complaining about this. This is enough time for you to get there! It shouldn’t even qualify as a jump! Fixed, though I am against it overall.
► 00:39:170 (1) - you could rotate this slider by 30 and stack slider's beggining with 00:37:352 (4) – Nope! I like it how it is.~
► 00:39:978 (2) - stack with 00:38:362 (7) - end and then 00:40:382 (3,4) - stack with 00:39:978 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231146 Agreed, fixed!
► 00:37:554 (5) - nc
► 00:44:002 (4) - ^ -
► 00:44:802 (1) - remove nc –
► 00:50:161 (5) – nc –
► 00:57:308 (1,2) - fix blanket – What do you mean? This is already perfect. Double-checked anyways.
► 00:58:719 (1) – nc –
► 01:04:543 (1) - ^ -
► 01:10:013 (1) - ^ -
► 01:10:543 (3,4,1) - stack with 01:09:308 (3) – end – Fixed!
► 01:12:837 (1) – nc
► 01:15:660 (1) - ^ -
► 01:16:896 (7) - fix this overlap > 01:15:660 (4,7) – Fixed!
► 01:18:484 (1) – nc –
► 01:21:131 (2) - fix blanket > 01:21:131 (2) - rotate -15 and move somewhere 304 324 – Denied, either I did it wrong or you didn’t explain it well enough because this looks horrible. I’m keeping it as it is.
► 01:22:719 (1) - then maybe move 244 220 – Since above was denied, this wasn’t implemented.
► 01:46:719 (6) – nc
► 02:12:131 (5) - ^
► 02:14:955 (1) - ^
► 02:17:778 (1) - ^
► 02:17:778 (1) - ^
► 02:17:778 (1) - ^
► 02:26:249 (1) - ^
► 02:29:072 (1) - ^ I think you should look by yourself (I'm taking about NCs)
► 03:52:366 (1) - maybe end it here 03:54:837 (on the red tick) – Nope it’s good as it is.
► 03:55:234 (1) - ok here? I think it's not well snapped. I would put on strong white tick because at the moment it feels a little off – Because it is. The vocalist sings this part slightly late. It’s not my fault, blame the song.
► 04:19:013 (4) - stack with 04:19:896 (8) – Fixed!
► 04:20:602 (1) - stack with 04:19:366 (6) – end Fixed! Also changed the vertical sliders!
► 04:54:308 (3) - move to 264 196 and also all other objects that follows – Fixed!
► 05:06:591 (2) - stack with 05:06:591 (2) – Ehm.. stack it with itself? You must have typo’d. x.x
► 05:07:318 (3) - stack with 05:07:318 (3) – end Typo again? I get what you mean here tho, so fixed!
► 05:14:823 (6) - nc /bpm change
► 05:15:223 (1) - remove nc
► 05:16:423 (1) - nc

Pretty sure I fixed all NC problems. I also copy-pasted a few sliders. Added more tags too!

In general, I suggest you copy-pasting sliders and rotating them instead of every single time creating individual sliders and of course NCs. Make nc every 2 1/1, not every 4 1/1. (Talking in musical terms: it's more like 2/4 song than 4/4) Good luck. Maybe add more tags.

Katyusha wrote:

M4M from your Q


Desperation

00:11:695 (1) - Why did you new combo here if you didn't at 00:08:463 (3) - and 00:05:231 (3) - ? delete it – Fixed!

00:09:877 (5) - Look at the DS from this slider 00:06:039 (4) - to 00:06:645 (5) - , now take a loot at the distance from 00:09:271 (4) - to 00:09:877 (5) - , even if they're literally the SAME thing, try to be consistent. - Fixed!

00:14:928 - between this note and 00:16:342 - this other Note, a spinner could fit, not very important, but it would feel better than just waiting for the next note. - Denied. No sound for a spinner, and I don’t like them to begin with so I’m leaving it as a pause.

00:25:433 (3) - This could be a 1/2 slider, as is different to the the base sound you're using for 00:23:817 (2,3,1,2) – Why did I not think of this. I love this idea! Fixed!

00:37:554 (5) - This could be a NC, same on
00:44:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - use tiny grid and try to make this curve more... rounded, current one feels too rigidand weird to play especially in these 00:44:602 (2,3,4) - where there's not enough curve compared to 00:45:202 (5,6,1) – I wanna keep these kinds of patterns as one combo. As for the curve, fixed!

00:50:161 (5) - like on 00:37:554 (5) , NC here - Same as what I said above.

00:57:308 - This is where my main complaint of the map comes into play.
This doesn't feel intense, you really, REALLY need to speed up the slider velocity, is the same as the entire slow part of the song, there are more jumps, this, you nailed this, but the sliders, because is the same speed as the slow initial part, feels really, REALLY awkward, and while yes, the BPM is a bit higher, is just that, "a bit", in my opinion, because near the Kiai you jump to 1.4 and then to 1.7, is to redo the sliders (you can keep the jumps as the are) with 1.2 SV – Nobody else complained about this. And what you’re basically saying is a remap of everything except the ending and chorus. Not happening, sorry.

01:02:778 (6) - This jump doesn't make sense because of the distance from 01:02:778 (6) - to 01:02:955 (1) - , move the note to X:52 Y:88 so it ends with a near 2.5DS between the both, and you still keep the jump but more constant. - Fixed!

01:07:190 (4) - Missing a note – Yukiyo helped explain what you meant here. Fixed! Also in doing this changed the reverse slider at 01:04:013.

01:18:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The sound effect is cool, but the lack of feed is really annoying while in play, I would vol up at least 5 more on each green tick – Fixed!

02:13:366 - Note? There’s no note on this beat. At least none that I can hear nor want to map.

02:16:366 - Starting this part, the sliders should be a bit more faster, I know what you're trying to do, and while I said to be consistent before, I still believe that you're not taking advantage of the potential of the song by keeping most of it on the same DS. - I get what you’re saying but the difference here is I map more circles, and I make larger jumps while also making the angles somewhat wider. This part already feels faster than before and I don’t want to change it. Also, this is basically asking for a remap and if I wanted to increase SV I would have done it in the first place.

02:37:366 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - What I said before, it is cool, but the feedback... try to vol it up by 5 each green tick. - Fixed!

02:54:131 (2) - CTR G – Screws the flow into 02:54:837 (4) so no, not gonna ctrl+g.

03:38:249 (1) - Rotate this slider more in direction of flow of 03:38:072 (4) - , like : http://i.imgur.com/kRneyr6.png – Definitely not. I want this small flow break. Also, as I said in the previous mods, I will not change anything from 03:07:190 – 03:52:366 unless it’s unplayable/unrankable. I spent a lot of time on this part and everything mapped here was intentional. I love how this plays too much to change it.

Most of the suggestion for the rest of the map would be around the DS, in my opinion, you should take a look at it, because right now it feels like I'm playing the same thing during the entire duration, yes, there are jumps and spaced triples forward the ending, but the core of the map, the sliders, are almost the same speed during the entire duration... making it while NOT bad (because the patterns are fun and good) , boring. - I’ll have to disagree with you here. Nobody else has complained about this so far and if I increase DS I’ll have to remap a lot of the map as it is. I’m keeping the DS. I change how the flow works for the parts you have a problem with, I don’t know if you noticed or not.

I could totally see this ranked tho. Aw thanks. <3

Good luck with the map! and sorry if a copypaste timeline doesn't fit!

• Desperation
  
  00:07:655 (2,1) - make both shapes equal? yea, different sounds but you use the same shape once again here 00:09:271 (2) - so fix the 1
  00:16:342 (5,1) - use the spacing like 00:09:877 (3,1) - ? to make it more "noticeable"? or idk its kinda weird now
  00:22:200 (7,1) - make both shapes equal < like copy + paste the 7 and rotate it to make it looks like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241653
  00:29:069 (4) - nc?
  00:30:079 (2,3) - why is spacing here like this, but then here changes so suddenly? 00:30:887 (4,1) - because the vocals? if thats the point then move it like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241665
  00:31:897 (3,4,1,2,3) - but then you back to the short spacing
  00:34:120 (4,1) - and then long again :<. this feels really unconsistent
  00:40:786 (4) - oke this is not an "error" but you don't need too many white anchors to make the slider perfect :p https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241680 (ohh also notice the 5 slider, 00:41:998 (5) - how I moved it. its a suggestion) was gonna point it out on other line but now that you can see it in the same picture xDD
  00:45:402 (6,1) - spacing
  00:47:708 (2,3,4,5) - and the spacing here is different than 00:44:602 (2,3,4,5) -
  00:51:474 (8) - make this totally vertical
  00:58:719 (1,2) - spacing?
  01:02:955 - lol, while I was playing it I didnt noticed that she says "uno, dos, t-t-t-t-t-t-tres"
  01:12:131 (2) - clap?
  01:16:366 - shouuld be clickable
  01:28:366 (1) - don't use red anchor on this slider :p keep the white ones
  01:45:308 (1) - I feel like this shape should be more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241704
  01:49:543 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move all of this to the left a bit (to stack 01:50:072 (5) - with 01:49:366 (10) - and avoid the overlap on 01:49:013 (8,1,2,3) - )
  02:07:190 (3,1) - both shapes looks akward like that, I mean.... (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241718 like this so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241720 both looks more equal)
  02:07:896 (1,2) - blanket
  02:12:131 (1) - ^
  02:17:778 (1,3) - make both shapes equal
  02:25:366 - why the green tick? nah you don't need it
  02:26:513 (5,6) - should make something with its spacing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241738
  02:26:249 (4,9) - should stack their heads
  02:27:660 (1,2) - here I recommend someting like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241746
  02:41:778 (1,3) - here you can so something like you did 02:40:366 (1,3) -
  02:46:719 (7,1) - something equal, this one its very noticeable and doesnt looks good
  02:59:425 (3) - blanket
  03:00:131 (5,1) - why not something like 01:45:308 - <
  02:50:249 (1,4) - stack these properly
  03:00:131 (5,3) - blnanket?
  03:04:102 (1) - delete this :< just use the reverse (or well... no, its on you but I recommend to deleteeee)
  03:19:190 (3,2,1) - stacj their heads?
  03:22:013 - y u missed this :<?
  03:31:896 - ^ (this one more, because there are vocals! starting too!)
  03:28:896 (4,5) - 03:33:131 (2,3) - both should have same spacing (stack them)
  03:42:308 (4,2) - stack these properly
  04:29:072 (1) - this shape can be better,
  04:29:072 (1,2) - stackl
  04:36:837 (4,1) - avoid overlap
  04:38:955 (1) - > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241773
  04:44:425 (4) - stack this with the 3 and the others stacked there? 04:45:219 (3) -
  04:54:484 (1) - NICE :O!
  05:08:773 (1,2) - from https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241777 t o something more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241782 you got me ?
  05:15:623 (4) - bkanekr
  05:18:050 (1) - ^ blanket

Itasha_S13 wrote:

Hi from my Q

• Desperation
  
  00:07:655 (2,1) - make both shapes equal? yea, different sounds but you use the same shape once again here 00:09:271 (2) - so fix the 1 - Looked pretty similar to me, redid it just in case!~
  
  00:16:342 (5,1) - use the spacing like 00:09:877 (3,1) - ? to make it more "noticeable"? or idk its kinda weird now - Fiiine, since so many people complained about it.
  
  00:22:200 (7,1) - make both shapes equal < like copy + paste the 7 and rotate it to make it looks like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241653 – Fixed!
  
  00:29:069 (4) – nc? - Nope cuz it’s a pick-up note. That’s why NC is 00:29:473 (1).
  
  00:30:079 (2,3) - why is spacing here like this, but then here changes so suddenly? 00:30:887 (4,1) - because the vocals? if thats the point then move it like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241665 Because 00:30:887 (4,1,4,1). It’s following when she uses the higher pitch. Will change if mentioned again. (well it was but I really wanna keep this so I'll change it on next mention)
  00:31:897 (3,4,1,2,3) - but then you back to the short spacing ^
  00:34:120 (4,1) - and then long again :<. this feels really unconsistent ^
  
  00:40:786 (4) - oke this is not an "error" but you don't need too many white anchors to make the slider perfect :p https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241680 (ohh also notice the 5 slider, 00:41:998 (5) - how I moved it. its a suggestion) was gonna point it out on other line but now that you can see it in the same picture xDD – I do need those white anchors to make the slider smooth, also I took your suggestion about 00:41:998 (5)
  
  00:45:402 (6,1) – spacing – Picky, picky. Fixed!~
  
  00:47:708 (2,3,4,5) - and the spacing here is different than 00:44:602 (2,3,4,5) – Because it’s faster.
  
  00:51:474 (8) - make this totally vertical – Fixed! Also made the other sliders look nicer.~
  
  00:58:719 (1,2) - spacing?
  01:02:955 - lol, while I was playing it I didnt noticed that she says "uno, dos, t-t-t-t-t-t-tres" – Neither did I~
  
  01:12:131 (2) – clap? - Woops, yep. Fixed!
  
  01:16:366 - shouuld be clickable – Following the guitar thingy, so I want it to be held. Would also screw up most of my positioning.
  
  01:28:366 (1) - don't use red anchor on this slider :p keep the white ones – Agreed, fixed!
  
  01:45:308 (1) - I feel like this shape should be more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241704 – Personal preference.
  
  01:49:543 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move all of this to the left a bit (to stack 01:50:072 (5) - with 01:49:366 (10) - and avoid the overlap on 01:49:013 (8,1,2,3) – Sure, fixed! (Unless that makes the section feel weird, then I’m reverting it.)
  
  02:07:190 (3,1) - both shapes looks akward like that, I mean.... (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241718 like this so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241720 both looks more equal) Fixed!
  
  02:07:896 (1,2) – blanket – Isn’t meant to be.
  
  02:12:131 (1) - ^ - Fixed!
  
  02:17:778 (1,3) - make both shapes equal – Fixed!
  
  02:25:366 - why the green tick? nah you don't need it – To reset the volume back to normal after silencing the slider end of 02:25:366.
  
  02:26:513 (5,6) - should make something with its spacing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241738 – Fixed!
  
  02:26:249 (4,9) - should stack their heads – Fixed!
  
  02:27:660 (1,2) - here I recommend someting like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241746 – Fixed!
  
  02:41:778 (1,3) - here you can so something like you did 02:40:366 (1,3) – Fixed!
  
  02:46:719 (7,1) - something equal, this one its very noticeable and doesnt looks good – Ahh forgive me Yukiyo for I have failed you. :c Fixed!~
  
  02:59:425 (3) – blanket – Fixed!
  
  03:00:131 (5,1) - why not something like 01:45:308 – Fixed! (Will remove if it looks weird to anyone else though.)
  
  02:50:249 (1,4) - stack these properly – Already fixed!~
  
  03:00:131 (5,3) – blnanket? - Fixixed! Moved it around a bit.
  
  03:04:102 (1) - delete this :< just use the reverse (or well... no, its on you but I recommend to deleteeee) – Still has the effect I wanted, so fixed!
  
  03:19:190 (3,2,1) - stacj their heads? Fixed!~
  
  03:22:013 - y u missed this :<? - Fixed!~
  
  03:31:896 - ^ (this one more, because there are vocals! starting too!) Following bass here, will fix if brought up again.
  
  03:28:896 (4,5) - 03:33:131 (2,3) - both should have same spacing (stack them) Fixed!
  
  03:42:308 (4,2) - stack these properly – Already fixed!~
  
  04:29:072 (1) - this shape can be better – Personal preference
  
  04:29:072 (1,2) – stackl – Fixed!
  
  04:36:837 (4,1) - avoid overlap - Fixed!~
  
  04:38:955 (1) - > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241773 – Um. Fixed? Pretty vague here.
  
  04:44:425 (4) - stack this with the 3 and the others stacked there? 04:45:219 (3) – Fixed!
  
  04:54:484 (1) - NICE :O! Thank you!~
  
  05:08:773 (1,2) - from https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241777 t o something more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241782 you got me ? - Gotchu fam. Fixed!
  
  05:15:623 (4) – bkanekr – Fixixr!~
  
  05:18:050 (1) - ^ blanket - Fixed!~

tbh I really liked this song and map You're too kind. xP

Combo1 : 64,0,64
Combo2 : 0,0,255
Combo3 : 128,0,255
Combo4 : 128,0,64

DakiniBrave wrote:

Responding M4M

Sorry really brief mod, i really like your map and really hard to find flaws at least in my eyes anyway. Anything is better than nothing!

Desperation

02:09:308 (1) - I feel that this note could be on a bit more of an angle or slightly more curved to blanket the next note as you can see it seems really off Nice find! Fixed!

Try putting 02:53:778 (3,4,5) - on a 5 degree angle, looks better to me thought you might like it more with no angle – I do like it with no angle, so I’ll keep it vertical.

02:54:484 (5) - could be CNTRL + G, might add for a bit more fun than just upward sliders, really just personally preference – It would be fun if there was a reason to, but since the majority of sliders would be facing the opposite direction, I feel it’s variety where none is needed. The pattern follows the bass which is repeating this same sound, so… yeah.

02:55:013 (7) - try moving it over a bit more to fit the 5 degree angle if you choose to use it – Again, nice find! Fixed!

Other than that, I love your map, really seems well polished and fun, sorry i couldnt be more of a help >.< Aww, thank you so much!

O-Moei wrote:

Hi !, 🌀NM request

✨ = Suggestion (Common opinion. No change, no problem)
💧 = Uuhhh? (Something feels wrong around here...)
💥 = Warning !!! (Yu know wat tu du xD )

Here we go...

General
💧What is "style7" in you beatmap file for ? Um… leftovers? x.x Removed!

✨Still have no combo colors ?. This is my suggestion

Combo1 : 64,0,64
Combo2 : 0,0,255
Combo3 : 128,0,255
Combo4 : 128,0,64

Took them! Except 2, I changed that slightly. Whether they appear or not I don’t know since they never worked for me. Oh well.

💧Hitsounding where ? Everywhere.~

💧I'm not a bpm expert, but i think some timing doesn't went really well. Like here 05:21:610 - . the metronome feels come a little earlier. Try to find another timing check. It doesn’t feel like it hinders play at all. I don’t know. If anyone else complains about it I’ll get a check. The BPM is correct though, it’s just I have to snap it otherwise it acts all weird in-game.

Desperation
✨00:21:392 (5) - NC since you NC every 1 measure – Fixed!
00:40:786 (4) - ^ for variety – Agreed, fixed!

💧03:33:131 (2,3) - Uhhh ?? - Fixed!

💧01:26:249 (2,3) - Their spacing quite tricky for players, since you give lesser gap for longer beat here 01:25:543 (1,2) - . Cuz it's really different with 03:58:013 (1,2,3) - Well obviously it’s a longer gap, there’s a pause.

✨01:41:955 (1,2,3) - Their flow doesn't provides well for players. Trust me ! XDXD. Maybe 01:42:308 (3) - have this stacked with at lest 01:40:896 (4) - is much more fitting - Fixed, but if any issues arise from this change, I will revert immediately.

✨02:07:896 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Have them equal spacing – Fixed!

✨03:18:308 (9) - make this stacked with 03:17:778 (6) - is better – Agreed, fixed!

💧03:55:234 (1,2) - No.. not like this. Delete (2) then extend (1) to replace (2)'s snap is suitable rhythmic play you've been followed – Fixed!

💧04:12:131 (1,2,3,4) - I think they should be triples (if you following melodies of course) – If mentioned again, will change.

✨05:00:484 (2) - Start NC after that big slider, for variety – No because it ends on a downbeat (sue me, it fits for this part) so I want to combo to be consistent.


Overall, you might want to find another modder check for structural ability. Okei, that's all from me. All e best

DJ Fish wrote:

Hi for the m4m of your queue

Desperation

00:03:615 (1,2) - Make these two look like the sliders at 00:04:423 (2,1) so the pattern would look symmetrical (Copy and paste the slider and just flip them)
00:06:645 (3,1) - The distance of these two objects at each other should be similar to the distance of the objects at 00:09:877 (3,1)
00:23:008 (1) - Make this slider's shape look similar to the slider at 00:22:200 (3) (Copy and paste it then press Ctrl + J, Ctrl +H)
00:30:281 (3) - Make this slider's shape look similar to the slider at 00:29:473 (1)
00:33:513 (3) - Make this slider's shape look similar to the slider at 00:32:705 (1)
00:44:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try fixing the curve of these circles
01:30:660 (6,7,8) - These might look better if you made them straight instead of curved but thats only my opinion though
01:44:955 (4,5,6) - Move these so they don't overlap with 01:43:896 (3)
01:45:308 (1) - Maybe make a better slider shape
01:56:602 (1) - ^^^
02:07:013 (2) - Try making the distance of this circle from the previous and next object equal maybe by moving this 3 grids to the left
02:12:837 (3) - Make this slider's look similar to the slider at 02:12:131 (1) by copying the slider at 02:12:131 (1) and flipping it
02:41:072 (3) - Make this slider's look similar to the slider at 02:40:366 (1) by copying the slider at 02:40:366 (1) and flipping it (And ofcourse you have to move 02:41:602 (4) after changing the slider)
03:00:308 (1) - Maybe try chaging this slider's shape
03:05:778 (1) - Move this away from 03:07:190 (1)

Chalwa wrote:

Hello! M4M!
(Sorry, I know, I'm late, but... i wrote on PM)

[Desperation]

1. 00:13:311 (1,2) - Why you didn't make here 1.1x DS like in another places?? And also blanket improve. Fixed!
   
2. 00:16:342 (5) - Make NC here, cause followpoint from 00:14:928 (4) looks imo ugly. Nope, it’s because it’s a follow in from the last downbeat.
   
3. 00:29:069 (4) - NC too, cause here voices start. ^
   
4. 00:44:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - What do you think about make jumps here? Imo what did you make here doesn't looks good. So make a star like in a screen: click! Nope!~ I like it how it is.
   
5. 00:47:708 (2,3,4,5) - The same like above ^
6. 01:26:249 (2,3,4,5) - This is very hard to read. Imo the best thing what you can make here is stack all – Disagree, this is easy to read.
   
7. 02:02:072 (10) - Stack it with 02:01:367 (5) for better flow? - Intention was to flow break, not create flow.
   
8. 02:11:955 (4,1) - Blanket improve – Fixed!
   
9. 02:16:366 (1,4) - Stack it with end of 02:16:366 (1) for avoid overlap - Fixed!
   
10. 02:30:484 (1,2) - Improve this blanket?? - Fixed!~
    
11. 02:49:719 (7) - Make this curve smaller, cause it looks ugly now - Fixed!
    
12. 02:55:013 (7) - Move it to x:184 y:88, cause it playable then. Now it's too high jump imo. - Moved it, but not that low.
    
13. 04:29:072 (1) - Why this slider looks weird?? Remove first white point... It looks much better! - Woops, fixed.
    
14. 05:21:612 - Imo from here it's 47.5 BPM – It's correct.

END!
It's good map and nice song
GOOD LUCK!!!

Lily Bread wrote:

03:33:131 (2,3) - two objects at one time. please make - 03:33:131 (2) - reverse twice instead of three times.

nice map.

_Meep_ wrote:

m4m

ze mods by ze meep

despair(my soul mate)
00:32:705 (1,2,3) - note 2 isn't centered between them,im triggered - Fixed!
00:40:786 (1) - Why does the sliderend have that small little bump? or why does it have that second last grey bezier? Fixed!
01:22:543 (2,1) - Blanket properly plez https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281495 - The blanket is perfect as it is.

Well polished and I don't see any blanket errors despite the length of the song,nicely done <3
gl for rank

-himei wrote:

from my queue:
00:26:039 (4,5,1) - make it more pretty? http://puu.sh/rHYEc/8df3d9bee9.jpg
00:29:473 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent ds inbetween 3/4
00:48:662 - from here on the sv should be increasing.
01:04:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make them more pretty? select 1,2,3 copy, paste, and use ctrl+h/g
01:10:013 (1) - 333/147
01:32:249 (2,3) - what the point of this object placement? 01:32:425 - theres no palpable sound you can emphasize with silder and whistle
just extend the slider and remove the note instead
anything this section seems to be remaped
01:31:543 - and 01:31:719 - and 01:32:602 - and 01:32:778 - 01:33:308 - 01:33:396 - etc are unmapped for some reason
also, please use 1/8 snap divisor, it just fits to this song.
01:34:013 (1) - same thing, undermapping.
you got a tripplet here 01:34:013 (1) -
alright, you should remap this part from 01:31:190 - to 01:36:837 - the song get more intensive, but you got boring sliders with the same velocity.
01:36:837 (1,2,3,4) - why is (4) angled that bad? lmao
01:41:955 (1,2,3) - these should be sliderkicks. it fits to the song way better
02:09:837 (2,3,4) - dude please ;w;
02:19:190 (1,2) - why didnt you use the same patterns with long slider and a note? like this 02:17:778 (1,2) -
02:21:131 (2,3,4) - same issue, make it more stucked
02:37:366 (3) - i dont recommend you to use <25% volume by any reasons at all. except slide ends and spinners.

alright i think im done for now.
it can be a long mod, but the thing is that the more you will learn from other maps, from mods etc, the more you will remap.
and im pretty sure if you are aimed for ranking you once realize that this map should be remapped like for its entire duration.

gl !

-himei wrote:

from my queue:
00:26:039 (4,5,1) - make it more pretty? http://puu.sh/rHYEc/8df3d9bee9.jpg – This is fine. I don’t get how that is nicer.
00:29:473 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent ds inbetween 3/4 – Fixed that whole area, hopefully.
00:48:662 - from here on the sv should be increasing. - Um it is. The bpm goes up, thus slider velocity does too. I don’t wanna make it a massive change cuz I’m saving that until after the first chorus.
01:04:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make them more pretty? select 1,2,3 copy, paste, and use ctrl+h/g – Fine by me, fixed.
01:10:013 (1) – 333/147 – Sure, fixed.
01:32:249 (2,3) - what the point of this object placement? 01:32:425 - theres no palpable sound you can emphasize with silder and whistle
just extend the slider and remove the note instead
anything this section seems to be remaped
01:31:543 - and 01:31:719 - and 01:32:602 - and 01:32:778 - 01:33:308 - 01:33:396 - etc are unmapped for some reason
also, please use 1/8 snap divisor, it just fits to this song. All of these things I do. Also, they’re following the vocals so I don’t get what you’re trying to say. It’s meant to follow the vocal so the drop has more impact.
01:34:013 (1) - same thing, undermapping. - Yeah, no. Intended.
you got a tripplet here 01:34:013 (1) – Don’t need it.
alright, you should remap this part from 01:31:190 - to 01:36:837 - the song get more intensive, but you got boring sliders with the same velocity. - Jumps later do the intensity increasing stuff for me. 01:36:837 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) -
01:36:837 (1,2,3,4) - why is (4) angled that bad? Lmao – I don’t get it. They’re all the same angle.
01:41:955 (1,2,3) - these should be sliderkicks. it fits to the song way better – There are three sounds yet you want me to map six. Sorry, but this part doesn’t need to be overmapped, it’s hard enough as it is.
02:09:837 (2,3,4) - dude please ;w; - Not a useful comment, but I get it. Fixed.
02:19:190 (1,2) - why didnt you use the same patterns with long slider and a note? like this 02:17:778 (1,2) – Fixed.
02:21:131 (2,3,4) - same issue, make it more stucked - Done.
02:37:366 (3) - i dont recommend you to use <25% volume by any reasons at all. except slide ends and spinners. - Kay. Fixed.

alright i think im done for now.
it can be a long mod, but the thing is that the more you will learn from other maps, from mods etc, the more you will remap.
and im pretty sure if you are aimed for ranking you once realize that this map should be remapped like for its entire duration.

gl !

Chocobo wrote:

Hi, from my queue, M4M req;

MODDING

1. 00:10:079 (1,2,1,2) - make a shape; - Done.
2. 00:23:817 (2,3,1,2) - ummmm, make a square; - Done.
3. 00:30:887 (4) - spacing issue; Intended. Emphasizes vocals.
4. 00:38:968 (8) - I suggest using a slider to replace it, like this: –
but for consistency with other similar parts, think twice before applying that; - No thanks. It’s fine as it is. Would break the patterns I set up.
5. 00:51:474 (8,1) – blanket; - Done.
6. 01:42:484 (1,2,3) - make them better; - Done.
7. 02:45:308 (3,4) – blanket? - Not intended.
8. 04:03:484 (6) - spacing issue; - Intended, emphasizes vocals.
9. 05:21:610 - use green line to gradually decrease the hitsounds; - Done.

ADVISE

1. concentrate on symmetric of objects;
2. try to make shape of circles;
3. avoid sudden change in distance;

Nice map~, hope the modding may help;

Lyssei wrote:

Look it's a mod! More or less.

17:42 Mir: did i tell you i remapped my first map for rank xd
17:43 Lyssei: Oh
17:43 Lyssei: nope but show me
17:43 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1092357 Trivecta - Labyrinth (feat. Miyoki) [Desperation]]
17:44 Lyssei: Ohh I saw you map that and watch others play it
17:44 Mir: mhm
17:44 Lyssei: Didn't know that was your first tho
17:44 Mir: cuz it has some really spaced triples in it xD
17:44 Lyssei: I see
17:44 Lyssei: Wanna watch me play it?
17:44 *Lyssei is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1092357 Trivecta - Labyrinth (feat. Miyoki) [Desperation]] -NoFail
17:44 Lyssei: Don't judge my nf k
17:45 Mir: okok
17:50 Lyssei: Huh didn't need nf hm
17:50 Mir: so much edge in that map holy
17:50 Mir: LOL
17:50 Lyssei: Ah, you really like making your maps hard to read tho
17:51 Mir: this one was thematically hard in the sense that
17:51 Mir: a labyrinth is hard to find your way
17:51 Mir: and you end up going back and forth
17:51 Lyssei: Sec lemme play again cuz I need to check smt xD I'll tell you some things after
17:51 Mir: hence copy-paste patterning
17:51 Mir: oki
17:53 Lyssei: Hmm
17:53 Lyssei: It's not that the triples are too hard for 5*, but
17:54 Lyssei: Honestly they are a bit over the top
17:54 Lyssei: Also, I'm pretty sure if you removed them it wouldn't even reach 5* lol
17:54 Lyssei: Bit big of a difference
17:55 Mir: LOL
17:55 Mir: yeah probably
17:55 Mir: im considering nerfing them
17:57 Lyssei: You really should imo xd
17:57 Lyssei: Ah, tho
17:57 Lyssei: I like your slow sv
17:58 Mir: hehe
17:58 Lyssei: 01:07:719 (1,2,3) - These aren't readable though
17:58 Lyssei: Unless you feel like going lindwurm
17:58 Lyssei: A bit the same as your stronger jump triples, can't read either, but
17:58 Lyssei: These ones aren't over the top for spacing I'd say
17:58 Mir: brb x
17:59 Lyssei: It's just that you don't expect it at all at this point
17:59 Lyssei: Sure
18:00 Lyssei: After 01:02:072 (6,7,8) - , nobody is going to ever expect you to suddenly make 01:07:719 (1,2,3) - x_x But yeah overall it's pretty nice, smooth play and all, slow sv fits the music
18:02 Lyssei: The part after 01:31:190 - Is pretty hard to read right away, but personally I don't think it's TOO hard, just making it sliiightly clearer would work better. Also, if you do nerf the triples and it ends up being a 3*, you wouldn't be able to make this this hard to read :^)
18:02 Lyssei: I'm exaggerating a bit but you get the point
18:03 Lyssei: I don't hear any sound on 01:41:866 (2) -
18:04 Mir: will change the 1:31 part as i was considering that anyways
18:04 Mir: concerning the first point you make the music where i space the triple is noticeably different
18:04 Mir: so it sets up "the music is different so spacing will be inverted" idea
18:04 Mir: there also is a sound on 1:41
18:04 Mir: the wub thingy
18:05 Lyssei: No that starts on the 1 after
18:05 Mir: play it on 25%
18:05 Lyssei: Also well yeah sound but surely nothing clickable
18:05 Lyssei: And with this much emphasis wow
18:05 Mir: that's totally clickable like
18:06 Mir: it's a major change in the song
18:06 Mir: and that's another place to set up "song is wildly different so triple spacing will be high" idea
18:06 Lyssei: Not on 01:41:866 (2) - there isn't xd
18:06 Mir: no there's clearly a sound therel mfao
18:06 Lyssei: Your set up needs a set up if you really want it to be this strong >.>
18:07 Mir: well i said id nerf it
18:07 Mir: so ye
18:08 Lyssei: Also
18:08 Lyssei: 01:02:072 (6,7,8) - Is the exact same drum triple as 01:07:719 (1,2,3) -
18:08 Mir: yeah but listen to the overall music
18:09 Mir: in the first one you link the music is generally all calm and normal
18:09 Mir: but the spaced one the background effects stop and the vocals come in with the te-te-te-te
18:09 Lyssei: And in the second as well :./
18:09 Lyssei: :/*
18:09 Mir: 1:02 is just a normal triple to me
18:09 Mir: 1:07 is clearly made to stand out musically so
18:09 Lyssei: So is 1.07 x)
18:09 Mir: i mapped it differently
18:10 Lyssei: Sure
18:10 Mir: listen not to the individual sound but to the music around it
18:10 Lyssei: But I really don't agree in this case ahehe
18:10 Lyssei: Yes I know what you mean
18:10 Lyssei: But I disagree
18:10 Mir: the same sound can have different emphasis based on how the music portrays it
18:10 Lyssei: I know, really, I do xD
18:11 Mir: well then this should make sense from my perspective x)
18:11 Mir: so we can agree to disagree
18:11 Lyssei: mhm
18:11 Lyssei: Also one thing that's eh kinda weird but not technically bad
18:11 Mir: tho i will nerf them all xD
18:11 Lyssei: At first I though you made it to show the lyric "unos" but then this 01:17:072 (1) -
18:12 Mir: you're reading too much into it xD
18:12 Mir: was unintentional on my part at least
18:12 Lyssei: 01:05:778 (1) - >_>
18:13 Lyssei: UNOS "Shows <1>"
18:13 Lyssei: Or maybe I should say uno
18:13 Lyssei: But honestly the way she says it kinda sounds like unos
18:13 Mir: it is uno
18:13 Lyssei: yeah, but
18:14 Lyssei: Well I guess it's more like "uno-[BREATHES OUT]"
18:14 Lyssei: And less uno-s
18:14 Mir: k changed it just for the sake of it
18:14 Lyssei: Sure xD
18:14 Mir: i don't feel like arguing over something so trivial
18:14 Lyssei: Ah, I wasn't trying to argue xd
18:14 Lyssei: Just mentioned it was a bit odd
18:16 Mir: nerfing them xd
18:17 Lyssei: Good luck xD
18:17 Lyssei: Ah, there's a couple combos that seem rather long, but I'm not sure if you paid attention to those yet
18:17 Lyssei: Or maybe you just had to reason to nc specifically
18:17 Mir: example?
18:18 Lyssei: 02:24:837 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
18:21 Lyssei: 04:00:837 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - These are also long but it repeats and it's really on the edge of what you'd call long so personally I feel it's fine, but in case you hadn't noticed them yet, maybe you'll want to nc them somewhere, maybe not
18:22 Mir: the first one i changed
18:22 Mir: second one is okay tbh
18:22 Lyssei: Yeah
18:24 Lyssei: I suggest you make these easier to read, as they're really irregular 04:47:072 (1,1,1) -
18:24 Mir: hm
18:24 Lyssei: It's good to make them sliders but not sure if it's quite alright as is, reading wise
18:24 Mir: yeah
18:24 Mir: since it's the first occurance of 1/3
18:24 Mir: i'll just reverse it
18:24 Lyssei: mhm
18:24 Lyssei: Oh, alright
18:25 Mir: 04:52:366 (1,1,1) - that makes this more expectable then
18:25 Lyssei: Yeah, I was going to mention those as well, but they're cleared after having them before already so those are fine
18:26 Lyssei: Make sure you do keep all six of them nc'd though so it's recognizable
18:26 Mir: yeap
18:26 Lyssei: Well, I think those were about all of my remarks atm
18:27 Mir: sounds good
18:27 Lyssei: Aside from those where I mentioned it wasn't the case, it plays quite well
18:28 Mir: managed to nerf it without killing too much concept xD
18:28 Lyssei: Ah xD Well that should be good
18:28 Lyssei: I gtg but I'll quickly go over the nerfs to see what you changed ah
18:29 Mir: updooted
18:29 Mir: if you want you can actually get kds from it
18:29 Mir: if you do /savelog
18:29 Mir: and post on the thread
18:29 Mir: cuz this was basically a small irc mod lol
18:29 Lyssei: Oh, sure x3
18:29 Lyssei: Although
18:29 Lyssei: I am a bit shy still = -=a
18:29 Mir: shh it's okay
18:31 Mir: a
18:31 Mir: i forgot to nerf the first one
18:31 Mir: LOL
18:31 Mir: actually
18:31 Mir: hmm
18:31 Lyssei: lel
18:31 Mir: slight nerf
18:31 Mir: i still need it to be fairly spaced
18:31 Lyssei: Mhm
18:32 Lyssei: Ah, these though 01:52:896 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think it should be fine since the timing is so vastly different, but perhaps you want to nudge these sets a little to look less like your currently nerfed triples
18:33 Mir: did something else
18:33 Mir: i actually was considering changing that a bit to be more intense
18:33 Lyssei: Ah?
18:33 Mir: i ctrl+g'd 4 and 5
18:33 Mir: so they're switched now
18:33 Lyssei: Oh, I see
18:33 Lyssei: That should make it cleared yeah
18:33 Lyssei: Well, anyway like I said I gtg, so
18:34 Mir: save log D:
18:34 Mir: post for kdsss
18:34 Lyssei: ye ye
18:34 Lyssei: did
18:34 Mir: ayy
18:34 Mir: first kds from me :'3
18:34 Lyssei:
18:34 Lyssei: ty ty
18:34 Lyssei: I'll post it a bit later tho lol
18:34 Mir: okay
18:35 Lyssei: Welp, bbl o/ Good luck with your map, it looks nice so far
18:35 Lyssei: OH where did I suddenly get 2101 pp
18:48 Lyssei: I don't suppose you can send me a copy of the log? :^)
18:49 Mir: holy
18:49 Mir: did you lose it
18:49 Lyssei: Otherwise it'll have to wait till tomorrow lol
18:49 Lyssei: Nah but

Here you go x3
Good luck with the map~