22:46 Mir: -pokes-
22:48 MrSergio: pokes
22:50 Mir: hi sensei xd
22:50 MrSergio: hi :"3
22:52 Mir: are you still busy with your project o;
22:52 MrSergio: nah
22:54 Mir: so... check on labyrinth soon(tm)? <:
22:57 MrSergio: where is #2 :<
22:58 Mir: yuii is #3 <:
22:58 Mir: I'm looking for #2
22:58 MrSergio: o
22:58 Mir: (maybe #3 idk yet)
22:58 Mir: (he said he'd check it :eyes)
23:00 MrSergio: 01:04:366 (3,1) - zzz, shouldn't the NC be reversed
23:00 MrSergio: 01:06:837 (1,2,1) - you even do it for this one
23:01 Mir: hm
23:01 MrSergio: 01:19:719 - is it just me or there is no note here @.@
23:01 Mir: but for the first one the vocal starts on the next 1
23:01 Mir: that's why i didn't nc for the kick there
23:01 MrSergio: vocals?
23:01 Mir: it's very quiet but it exists :eyes:
23:02 Mir: 3,1 i meant
23:02 Mir: the first you linked
23:02 MrSergio: if it is quiet why does it have that giant spacing I wonder
23:02 MrSergio: o
23:02 Mir: i can nerf spacing tbh
23:02 MrSergio: then why that pattern lol
23:02 MrSergio: wait wait wait
23:02 MrSergio: let's go in order
23:02 MrSergio: 01:04:366 (3,1) -
23:02 Mir: okay
23:03 MrSergio: either the pattern is meh, or the NC-ing is meh
23:03 Mir: there i didn't nc on 3 because on 01:04:543 (1) - vocal comes in
23:04 MrSergio: then what about https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8195894
23:04 Mir: uwah
23:04 MrSergio: that pattern is misleading and doesn't even leep your particular pattern on vocals
23:04 MrSergio: keep*
23:04 MrSergio: so either follow drums, keep the pattern and switch NC, or change the pattern in a way that resembles vocals
23:05 Mir: what about this
23:05 Mir: wait
23:05 MrSergio: that screen is just random anyway, as long as you keep the two triplets it should be fine
23:06 Mir: .
23:06 Mir: this is hard to read in editor
23:07 Mir: http://i.imgur.com/con0Ng4.png
23:07 Mir: ._.
23:07 MrSergio: zzz
23:07 Mir: basically it goes backwarsd
23:07 MrSergio: are the 1,2,3 in order?
23:07 MrSergio: as you did for 01:06:837 (1,2,1,2,3) - 01:07:719 (1,2,3) -
23:08 Mir: http://i.imgur.com/VlkLnf0.png
23:08 MrSergio: aka, you don't do back and forths
23:08 Mir: maybe this helps
23:08 MrSergio: zzzzzz
23:08 MrSergio: as I thought
23:08 MrSergio: the back and forth isn't present in the other similar patterns and it is clearly different in concept with those I linked above
23:09 MrSergio: I still have no clue why those have special treatment and are with back and forths
23:09 MrSergio: but is it done elsewhere in the map?
23:09 MrSergio: because 01:06:837 (1,2,1,2,3) - and similar ones say the opposite to me
23:09 Mir: 01:06:837 (1,2,1) - is this not back and forth
23:09 MrSergio: umh... no
23:09 MrSergio: 01:07:190 (1) - once the back and forth comes in, you have a NC
23:10 MrSergio: 01:07:190 (1,2,3) - these are in order
23:10 MrSergio: 01:07:719 (1,2,3) - same
23:10 MrSergio: there is no back and forth between those 3 beats
23:10 MrSergio: they are linear
23:10 MrSergio: right now, you have your third beat in the opposite direction of 1 and 2 in that pattern in the screen
23:11 MrSergio: which made me think "oh, he follows the drum, alright" "but it needs a NC then"
23:11 MrSergio: but you said no
23:11 MrSergio: that's why I went for vocals and suggested to make the triplets linear as the other ones
23:11 Mir: so if i just did a simple one like this http://i.imgur.com/VPNA0Dl.png
23:11 Mir: 1 2 3 then back again 1 2 3
23:11 MrSergio: so idk... which is it in the end lol
23:12 Mir: would that work?
23:12 MrSergio: so confusing, ugh
23:12 MrSergio: as long as it is linear I'm fine with it
23:12 Mir: i knowww im sorry
23:12 Mir: it's linear
23:12 MrSergio: and as long as you keep it DS'd
23:12 Mir: i can update and you can check anyways
23:12 Mir: it's also ds'd
23:12 MrSergio: sure
23:13 MrSergio: (you could have highlighted the first triplet so I could see)
23:13 Mir: oh
23:13 Mir: sorry x.x
23:14 MrSergio: actually, I can see it now
23:14 MrSergio: thanks approach circles
23:15 MrSergio: anyway... we can move on I guess
23:15 MrSergio: 01:19:366 (9,11) - tried deleting them? As far as I can hear, there are no beats in the song supporting those
23:16 Mir: mhm
23:16 MrSergio: the remaining beat can be left where it is
23:16 MrSergio: it creates a nice flow
23:16 Mir: alright
23:17 MrSergio: 01:41:778 (1,2,1) - that spacing still... ugh
23:18 Mir: too much?
23:18 MrSergio: 01:41:426 (2,2) - being stacked also makes it hard to read, but there is nothing really wrong about that
23:18 MrSergio: 01:41:426 (2) - x2.00 DS 01:41:866 (2) - x4.00 DS
23:18 MrSergio: :thinking:
23:19 Mir: 0.5x sv :thinking:
23:19 MrSergio: so it is actually x8.00, wo
23:19 Mir: eh? isn't it less?
23:19 MrSergio: well, whatever are the values, I find it a bit too sudden
23:20 MrSergio: later on it is used again, the same way
23:20 MrSergio: but instroducing this concept at full speed right away feels a bit too much
23:20 Mir: the song is also quite sudden here imo
23:20 MrSergio: later on it is fine to have it larger
23:20 Mir: it's like dada DA DA DA
23:20 MrSergio: not the rhythm you are following tho
23:20 MrSergio: and the DA DA DA is 01:41:955 (1,1,1) -
23:20 MrSergio: not 01:41:778 (1,2) -
23:20 Mir: hm
23:21 Mir: true i suppose
23:21 MrSergio: 01:41:778 (1,2) - these are just background as far as I can tell
23:21 Mir: but the 1,2 sets that up
23:21 Mir: i can reduce it though it's kinda edgy as it is
23:21 MrSergio: no one likes to go against the boss floor as soon as the adventure started
23:22 MrSergio: 01:48:131 (1,2,3) - these are surely not the same as 01:41:778 (1,2,1) - in intensity imo
23:22 MrSergio: and the ones coming later in the map are fine like that
23:22 MrSergio: but I can't really say those above ^ are equal
23:22 Mir: yeah agreed
23:22 Mir: changed it up then
23:23 Mir: now it's like this http://i.imgur.com/SqLHozo.png
23:23 MrSergio: 02:02:249 (1) - sezy
23:23 MrSergio: it's like a nice girl swinging her butt in fron of you
23:23 Mir: LOL
23:23 MrSergio: ahem, you read nothing
23:23 MrSergio: shhhh
23:23 Mir: im screenshotting that
23:23 MrSergio: and that screen looks a lot better now
23:23 Mir: xd
23:24 MrSergio: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
23:24 Mir: <33
23:24 MrSergio: brb, killing myself in a practical meaning
23:24 Mir: NONONO
23:24 Mir: it's okaY ILL DELETE IT
23:24 MrSergio: xD
23:24 Mir: hmph
23:24 MrSergio: moderation powers
23:24 Mir: no fun >:T
23:25 MrSergio: 02:15:484 (3,4,5) - I would reduce spacing BEFORE this triplet, in order to make the kick on the next slider more prominent
23:26 MrSergio: did something like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8196075 but it can be anything with those spacings
23:26 Mir: stack with the head of 2?
23:26 Mir: 1*?
23:26 Mir: o
23:26 MrSergio: in my screen, ye
23:26 MrSergio: also rotate them to make use of a little more spacing difference
23:26 Mir: i did like this http://i.imgur.com/yE5pmG8.png
23:27 MrSergio: as long asa 02:15:131 (2,3) - is smaller than 02:15:660 (5,6) - , sure
23:27 Mir: http://i.imgur.com/WjawBzJ.png
23:27 Mir: :eyes:
23:27 MrSergio: the ideal would be that the speed used to travel 02:15:660 (5,6) - is way faster than the speed used to travel the slider body
23:27 MrSergio: I mean, the idea*
23:27 MrSergio: yeah, good lol
23:28 Mir: \o/
23:29 MrSergio: 02:55:896 (1,2,3) - considering this spacing... 03:07:190 - for how quiet the song becomes here I would say that spacing is a bit too big overall
23:29 MrSergio: and it could have been made less dense too perhaps
23:30 Mir: so after 3:07 it's too much?
23:30 MrSergio: i feel like it is too big, ye
23:30 Mir: hmm
23:30 MrSergio: 03:18:484 - from here it is fine, but if you notice it is pretty much the same as before
23:30 MrSergio: spacing-wise
23:31 MrSergio: 03:47:778 (5,6,7) - wait, was this a common concept in the map o.O?
23:31 MrSergio: it's suddenly so hard
23:32 Mir: hm well
23:32 Mir: that kind of is situational
23:32 Mir: lol
23:32 MrSergio: 03:47:602 (4,5) - jump to the right, 03:47:778 (5) - movement to the left 03:47:778 (5,6) - jump to the right, 03:48:131 (7) - movement to the left
23:32 MrSergio: x.x
23:32 MrSergio: all of this in a rather calm part
23:33 Mir: if i just lowered spacing there
23:33 Mir: would it be okay
23:33 Mir: or i could remove the triple it's not even that audible hm
23:33 MrSergio: idk... I just don't seem to recall such a pattern before either
23:33 MrSergio: and that spacing + flow is kinda hard out of the blue
23:34 Mir: yeah so i'll just get rid of the triple
23:34 MrSergio: 04:14:249 (5,6,7,8) - I believed this was identical to 04:13:543 (1,2,3,4) -
23:35 Mir: should move the 8 then right?
23:35 MrSergio: it's almost the same sort of reasoning from the triplet at the start lol
23:35 MrSergio: eh
23:35 MrSergio: following your map, that would be logical imo
23:35 Mir: fair enough yeah
23:35 Mir: i just didn't wanna overlap the slider
23:35 Mir: but it seems it's not noticeable in gameplay lol
23:36 MrSergio: in gameplay almost everything is readable as long as it is not completely covered by something
23:36 MrSergio: the concern is more about structure there
23:36 Mir: right
23:36 MrSergio: since your entire map used those linear movements so far
23:37 MrSergio: and as long as there is no drastic change in the song, I don't see how can such a change be warranted in the map either
23:37 MrSergio: 04:33:131 (4) - maybe shift this a bit. That end kinda... idk... might be hard + you never overlapped anything that way
23:38 Mir: so offset it instead of stack it?
23:38 MrSergio: ye
23:38 Mir: okay, done
23:38 MrSergio: take example from the previous version of the pattern
23:38 MrSergio: 04:22:895 (3,4) -
23:39 Mir: right
23:39 MrSergio: 04:43:013 (1,2,1) - similar discussion as before here
23:39 MrSergio: 04:43:719 (1,2,3) - that is quite similar with this one
23:40 Mir: 04:46:543 (1,2,3) - this one though?
23:40 Mir: it's like half of the sounds together lmao
23:40 MrSergio: that still has that... "trrr da"
23:41 MrSergio: or whatever that sound is
23:41 Mir: yeah i suppose
23:41 MrSergio: 04:43:013 (1,2) - this is on the violin and clearly sounds softer
23:42 MrSergio: the other triplets can be scaled if you want, but that is really tiny details and I don't care tvh
23:42 MrSergio: 04:48:837 (1) - ctrl g? .-.
23:42 Mir: ._. sure
23:43 MrSergio: I mean, that flow seemed like it was a misclick lol
23:43 Mir: it kinda was lmao
23:43 MrSergio: 04:52:601 (1,1) - I would have inverted their order, since they are not exactly THAT fast to be attached
23:43 Mir: um what
23:43 Mir: i don't understand x.x
23:44 MrSergio: basically, 04:52:601 (1) - -120 and move instead of 04:52:837 (1) -
23:44 MrSergio: 04:52:837 (1) - +120 and move instead of 04:52:601 (1) -
23:44 MrSergio: make the player go across the angles of the triangle instead of going around it
23:44 Mir: so... do you want me to ctrl+g them?
23:44 Mir: oh
23:44 Mir: hmm
23:44 Mir: i like the circular motion though
23:44 MrSergio: 04:52:601 (1,1) - yeah, but then ctrl G them again, one by one
23:45 MrSergio: well, it works both ways anyway
23:45 Mir: i like the circular cuz
23:45 Mir: 04:53:072 (1,1) - contrasts here
23:45 Mir: breaks flow nicely
23:45 MrSergio: ye
23:45 MrSergio: that's why it works both ways
23:46 MrSergio: fundamentally, we had the same concept in mind, but I went for a more specific one while you kept the general one
23:46 MrSergio: same thing
23:46 Mir: i guess so ;w;
23:47 MrSergio: 05:21:148 (1,1) - damn, this can't be a slider, right
23:47 Mir: the last 1?
23:47 MrSergio: because it would make more sense to increase the slider length, considering the song slows down
23:47 MrSergio: no, merge those into a slider
23:48 Mir: that would kill the pattern x.x
23:48 MrSergio: that fast slider kills the song atmosphere tho
23:48 Mir: or i could slow the sv
23:48 MrSergio: extend the slider and silence the end?
23:48 Mir: HA
23:48 Mir: IM SMART
23:48 Mir: SEE
23:49 MrSergio: and obviously slow down SV
23:49 MrSergio: since that's the issue, mainly
23:49 MrSergio: (btw, it works nicely even the way I suggested. Just tested it)
23:49 Mir: i just deleted the 1 circle
23:49 Mir: slowed sv by 0.5
23:50 Mir: snapped it and it works perfectly
23:50 Mir: keeps the pattern too
23:50 MrSergio: ye
23:50 MrSergio: noice
23:50 Mir: you know 05:24:026 (1) - used to be offscreen
23:50 Mir: for meme's sake
23:50 Mir: until a modder pointed it out
23:50 Mir: like "?????????????????"
23:50 MrSergio: o
23:50 Mir: then i realized I forgot to change it back
23:50 MrSergio: LOL
23:51 Mir: yeah that was funny the guy who suggested it be offscreen was laughing just as hard as i was
23:51 Mir: updating
23:51 MrSergio: is meta confirmed
23:52 Mir: pretty easy to confirm
23:52 Mir: soundcloud link
23:52 Mir: one sec
23:52 Mir: https://soundcloud.com/trivectamusic/la ... eat-miyoki
23:52 MrSergio: perfect
23:53 Mir: should put that in desc lo
23:53 MrSergio: ye
23:53 Mir: im still learning how to rank stuff ;w;
23:54 MrSergio: https://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/z3S5d4fB.png
23:54 MrSergio: or should I redl
23:54 *MrSergio is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1092357 Trivecta - Labyrinth (feat. Miyoki)]
23:54 Mir: redl probably
23:54 MrSergio: ye, moment
23:54 Mir: im pretty sure they're all used unless i fucked up lol
23:54 Mir: which is entirely possible since this is the first time i used two different custom sets
23:55 MrSergio: https://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/UeBfbWr5.png !
23:55 Mir: !!!
23:56 MrSergio: timing sections look ok
23:57 Mir: bonsai-approved!
23:57 MrSergio: lul tags
23:57 MrSergio: why do I always feel like I forget something to check...
23:58 Mir: did you check aimod :%)
23:58 Mir: colon-percent-closed-bracket
23:58 MrSergio: lmao
23:58 MrSergio: I ran Navosu and it looked fine
23:58 Mir: hitsound volume? ;eyes;
23:58 MrSergio: if I missed something, blame Navosu
23:59 MrSergio: nah, that is something I notice while I check
23:59 MrSergio: if it sounds strange I point it out
23:59 MrSergio: I won't ask for 15% volume fixes unless they are really off tbh
23:59 MrSergio: ah well, let me recheck the patterns we changed and I can bubble
00:00 Mir: there is an issue
00:00 Mir: with here
00:00 Mir: 04:59:249 -
00:00 Mir: weird volumes
00:00 Mir: i just changed it
00:00 MrSergio: ?
00:00 Mir: apparently i didn't remember to switch them x.x
00:00 Mir: 05:00:131 (1,2,3,4,5) - are 20%
00:00 MrSergio: eh
00:00 Mir: 05:02:955 (1) - sudden switch to 10%
00:01 Mir: so i made it less jarring
00:01 MrSergio: as you wish xD
00:01 Mir: if it doesn't trigger you it triggers me >:
00:01 MrSergio: told you that 15% and below won't be much of deal
00:01 Mir: okie
00:01 MrSergio: I prefer not being too nazi, otherwise I really would burn out after just one map
00:02 Mir: i suppose so hehe
00:03 MrSergio: ah, 00:45:202 (3) - maybe move slightly on the right? That straight pattern seems strange if you compare it with the rest, idk
00:03 MrSergio: now that I saw the whole map it felt strange
00:03 Mir: 00:47:708 (3,4,5) - but ;-;
00:03 MrSergio: 00:47:899 (4) - ah, ye
00:03 MrSergio: focl
00:03 MrSergio: whatevs
00:03 Mir: LOL
00:04 MrSergio: it feels strange anyway tho, dunno
00:04 MrSergio: 01:04:013 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - sexy
00:04 Mir: o.o
00:04 Mir: ayy
00:05 MrSergio: 01:48:660 (1,2,3) - isn't comboing... screwed here?
00:05 MrSergio: shouldn't that be a red or something
00:05 MrSergio: pretty sure it was red before
00:06 MrSergio: or I'm imagining things
00:06 Mir: it was red before
00:06 Mir: it fucked up
00:06 Mir: soemhow
00:07 Mir: i fixed it
00:07 MrSergio: noice
00:07 Mir: yeah, safeu!
00:08 MrSergio: 03:07:190 - feels so much better now
00:08 Mir: \o/
00:09 Mir: 03:32:602 (1,3) - a
00:09 Mir: nani kore desu ka
00:09 Mir: tabun dame
00:09 Mir: doushio
00:09 MrSergio: 03:49:366 (10,11,1) - ah, maybe reduce this jump lol
00:09 MrSergio: I mean, 03:49:190 (9,10) -
00:09 Mir: oh right lol
00:09 MrSergio: oh, that should be fine I guess
00:10 MrSergio: you can stack shift it as you did later on tho
00:10 MrSergio: shift it*
00:10 Mir: did it for consistency
00:10 MrSergio: 04:09:308 (1) - ah, slider ends
00:11 MrSergio: argh
00:11 Mir: should i
00:11 Mir: silence
00:11 Mir: them
00:11 Mir: i can do it
00:11 MrSergio: ye xD
00:12 Mir: done desu
00:12 MrSergio: 04:44:602 (1) - ctrl G maybe makes flow a bit better here
00:12 MrSergio: more in entrance, rather than exit
00:12 Mir: true
00:12 Mir: did so
00:13 MrSergio: I guess that's all
00:14 Mir: alright
00:14 Mir: do you want me to add anything to tags?
00:14 Mir: or even remove anything x.x
00:14 MrSergio: tags are optional, actually
00:14 MrSergio: as long as they are not dumb
00:14 MrSergio: they can stay
00:14 Mir: alright
00:15 Mir: updating~
00:15 Mir: aaand updated
00:17 MrSergio: 01:49:543 (1,2,3) - shouldn't this be red/pink/whatever
00:17 Mir: Oh
00:17 Mir: my
00:17 Mir: GOD
00:17 Mir: WHY
00:17 Mir: FUCKING COLOR HAXING
00:17 Mir: FUCKING DIE SHITTY EDITOR HOLY SHIT
00:17 MrSergio: he died
00:18 Mir: okay i did that
00:18 Mir: fucking hell im triggered
00:18 MrSergio: the rest loooks good
00:18 Mir: if it updates
00:18 Mir: and then changes
00:18 MrSergio: lol
00:18 Mir: i'm uninstalling
00:19 Mir: okay
00:20 Mir: im the worst person to do checks with tbh
00:20 Mir: i always somehow fuck something up
00:20 Mir: i feel like it's going to annoy a lot of bns in the future
00:20 MrSergio: ok, seems like it is fixed now
00:20 Mir: finally
00:20 Mir: i hate color haxing
00:20 MrSergio: were there any other triplets likethose ahead tho
00:20 MrSergio: inb4 one of them is screwed lol
00:20 Mir: which ones
00:20 MrSergio: idk
00:21 MrSergio: I was asking
00:21 Mir: i checked it should be okay
00:21 Mir: yeah it seems okay
00:21 MrSergio: 04:45:131 (1,2,3) - okay, they seem fine
00:22 Mir: they're red for me
00:22 MrSergio: ye
00:22 MrSergio: they are
00:22 Mir: oaky
00:22 Mir: okay
00:22 Mir: phew
00:22 MrSergio: I guess... we can call it a day then