_Kise wrote:

Desparation
► 00:03:615 (1) - i would suggest you recuding ds by moving first slider somewhere 280 56 so ds is 1,10x – Fixed!
► 00:06:847 (1) - use same sliders (copy paste) because 00:07:655 (2) – differs – Fixed!
► 00:19:372 (6,1) - maybe reduce ds here? it's 1/2 and you make such a big jump – Ugh, so many people complaining about this. This is enough time for you to get there! It shouldn’t even qualify as a jump! Fixed, though I am against it overall.
► 00:39:170 (1) - you could rotate this slider by 30 and stack slider's beggining with 00:37:352 (4) – Nope! I like it how it is.~
► 00:39:978 (2) - stack with 00:38:362 (7) - end and then 00:40:382 (3,4) - stack with 00:39:978 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231146 Agreed, fixed!
► 00:37:554 (5) - nc
► 00:44:002 (4) - ^ -
► 00:44:802 (1) - remove nc –
► 00:50:161 (5) – nc –
► 00:57:308 (1,2) - fix blanket – What do you mean? This is already perfect. Double-checked anyways.
► 00:58:719 (1) – nc –
► 01:04:543 (1) - ^ -
► 01:10:013 (1) - ^ -
► 01:10:543 (3,4,1) - stack with 01:09:308 (3) – end – Fixed!
► 01:12:837 (1) – nc
► 01:15:660 (1) - ^ -
► 01:16:896 (7) - fix this overlap > 01:15:660 (4,7) – Fixed!
► 01:18:484 (1) – nc –
► 01:21:131 (2) - fix blanket > 01:21:131 (2) - rotate -15 and move somewhere 304 324 – Denied, either I did it wrong or you didn’t explain it well enough because this looks horrible. I’m keeping it as it is.
► 01:22:719 (1) - then maybe move 244 220 – Since above was denied, this wasn’t implemented.
► 01:46:719 (6) – nc
► 02:12:131 (5) - ^
► 02:14:955 (1) - ^
► 02:17:778 (1) - ^
► 02:17:778 (1) - ^
► 02:17:778 (1) - ^
► 02:26:249 (1) - ^
► 02:29:072 (1) - ^ I think you should look by yourself (I'm taking about NCs)
► 03:52:366 (1) - maybe end it here 03:54:837 (on the red tick) – Nope it’s good as it is.
► 03:55:234 (1) - ok here? I think it's not well snapped. I would put on strong white tick because at the moment it feels a little off – Because it is. The vocalist sings this part slightly late. It’s not my fault, blame the song.
► 04:19:013 (4) - stack with 04:19:896 (8) – Fixed!
► 04:20:602 (1) - stack with 04:19:366 (6) – end Fixed! Also changed the vertical sliders!
► 04:54:308 (3) - move to 264 196 and also all other objects that follows – Fixed!
► 05:06:591 (2) - stack with 05:06:591 (2) – Ehm.. stack it with itself? You must have typo’d. x.x
► 05:07:318 (3) - stack with 05:07:318 (3) – end Typo again? I get what you mean here tho, so fixed!
► 05:14:823 (6) - nc /bpm change
► 05:15:223 (1) - remove nc
► 05:16:423 (1) - nc

Pretty sure I fixed all NC problems. I also copy-pasted a few sliders. Added more tags too!

In general, I suggest you copy-pasting sliders and rotating them instead of every single time creating individual sliders and of course NCs. Make nc every 2 1/1, not every 4 1/1. (Talking in musical terms: it's more like 2/4 song than 4/4) Good luck. Maybe add more tags.

Katyusha wrote:

M4M from your Q


Desperation

00:11:695 (1) - Why did you new combo here if you didn't at 00:08:463 (3) - and 00:05:231 (3) - ? delete it – Fixed!

00:09:877 (5) - Look at the DS from this slider 00:06:039 (4) - to 00:06:645 (5) - , now take a loot at the distance from 00:09:271 (4) - to 00:09:877 (5) - , even if they're literally the SAME thing, try to be consistent. - Fixed!

00:14:928 - between this note and 00:16:342 - this other Note, a spinner could fit, not very important, but it would feel better than just waiting for the next note. - Denied. No sound for a spinner, and I don’t like them to begin with so I’m leaving it as a pause.

00:25:433 (3) - This could be a 1/2 slider, as is different to the the base sound you're using for 00:23:817 (2,3,1,2) – Why did I not think of this. I love this idea! Fixed!

00:37:554 (5) - This could be a NC, same on
00:44:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - use tiny grid and try to make this curve more... rounded, current one feels too rigidand weird to play especially in these 00:44:602 (2,3,4) - where there's not enough curve compared to 00:45:202 (5,6,1) – I wanna keep these kinds of patterns as one combo. As for the curve, fixed!

00:50:161 (5) - like on 00:37:554 (5) , NC here - Same as what I said above.

00:57:308 - This is where my main complaint of the map comes into play.
This doesn't feel intense, you really, REALLY need to speed up the slider velocity, is the same as the entire slow part of the song, there are more jumps, this, you nailed this, but the sliders, because is the same speed as the slow initial part, feels really, REALLY awkward, and while yes, the BPM is a bit higher, is just that, "a bit", in my opinion, because near the Kiai you jump to 1.4 and then to 1.7, is to redo the sliders (you can keep the jumps as the are) with 1.2 SV – Nobody else complained about this. And what you’re basically saying is a remap of everything except the ending and chorus. Not happening, sorry.

01:02:778 (6) - This jump doesn't make sense because of the distance from 01:02:778 (6) - to 01:02:955 (1) - , move the note to X:52 Y:88 so it ends with a near 2.5DS between the both, and you still keep the jump but more constant. - Fixed!

01:07:190 (4) - Missing a note – Yukiyo helped explain what you meant here. Fixed! Also in doing this changed the reverse slider at 01:04:013.

01:18:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The sound effect is cool, but the lack of feed is really annoying while in play, I would vol up at least 5 more on each green tick – Fixed!

02:13:366 - Note? There’s no note on this beat. At least none that I can hear nor want to map.

02:16:366 - Starting this part, the sliders should be a bit more faster, I know what you're trying to do, and while I said to be consistent before, I still believe that you're not taking advantage of the potential of the song by keeping most of it on the same DS. - I get what you’re saying but the difference here is I map more circles, and I make larger jumps while also making the angles somewhat wider. This part already feels faster than before and I don’t want to change it. Also, this is basically asking for a remap and if I wanted to increase SV I would have done it in the first place.

02:37:366 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - What I said before, it is cool, but the feedback... try to vol it up by 5 each green tick. - Fixed!

02:54:131 (2) - CTR G – Screws the flow into 02:54:837 (4) so no, not gonna ctrl+g.

03:38:249 (1) - Rotate this slider more in direction of flow of 03:38:072 (4) - , like : http://i.imgur.com/kRneyr6.png – Definitely not. I want this small flow break. Also, as I said in the previous mods, I will not change anything from 03:07:190 – 03:52:366 unless it’s unplayable/unrankable. I spent a lot of time on this part and everything mapped here was intentional. I love how this plays too much to change it.

Most of the suggestion for the rest of the map would be around the DS, in my opinion, you should take a look at it, because right now it feels like I'm playing the same thing during the entire duration, yes, there are jumps and spaced triples forward the ending, but the core of the map, the sliders, are almost the same speed during the entire duration... making it while NOT bad (because the patterns are fun and good) , boring. - I’ll have to disagree with you here. Nobody else has complained about this so far and if I increase DS I’ll have to remap a lot of the map as it is. I’m keeping the DS. I change how the flow works for the parts you have a problem with, I don’t know if you noticed or not.

I could totally see this ranked tho. Aw thanks. <3

Good luck with the map! and sorry if a copypaste timeline doesn't fit!

• Desperation
  
  00:07:655 (2,1) - make both shapes equal? yea, different sounds but you use the same shape once again here 00:09:271 (2) - so fix the 1
  00:16:342 (5,1) - use the spacing like 00:09:877 (3,1) - ? to make it more "noticeable"? or idk its kinda weird now
  00:22:200 (7,1) - make both shapes equal < like copy + paste the 7 and rotate it to make it looks like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241653
  00:29:069 (4) - nc?
  00:30:079 (2,3) - why is spacing here like this, but then here changes so suddenly? 00:30:887 (4,1) - because the vocals? if thats the point then move it like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241665
  00:31:897 (3,4,1,2,3) - but then you back to the short spacing
  00:34:120 (4,1) - and then long again :<. this feels really unconsistent
  00:40:786 (4) - oke this is not an "error" but you don't need too many white anchors to make the slider perfect :p https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241680 (ohh also notice the 5 slider, 00:41:998 (5) - how I moved it. its a suggestion) was gonna point it out on other line but now that you can see it in the same picture xDD
  00:45:402 (6,1) - spacing
  00:47:708 (2,3,4,5) - and the spacing here is different than 00:44:602 (2,3,4,5) -
  00:51:474 (8) - make this totally vertical
  00:58:719 (1,2) - spacing?
  01:02:955 - lol, while I was playing it I didnt noticed that she says "uno, dos, t-t-t-t-t-t-tres"
  01:12:131 (2) - clap?
  01:16:366 - shouuld be clickable
  01:28:366 (1) - don't use red anchor on this slider :p keep the white ones
  01:45:308 (1) - I feel like this shape should be more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241704
  01:49:543 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move all of this to the left a bit (to stack 01:50:072 (5) - with 01:49:366 (10) - and avoid the overlap on 01:49:013 (8,1,2,3) - )
  02:07:190 (3,1) - both shapes looks akward like that, I mean.... (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241718 like this so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241720 both looks more equal)
  02:07:896 (1,2) - blanket
  02:12:131 (1) - ^
  02:17:778 (1,3) - make both shapes equal
  02:25:366 - why the green tick? nah you don't need it
  02:26:513 (5,6) - should make something with its spacing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241738
  02:26:249 (4,9) - should stack their heads
  02:27:660 (1,2) - here I recommend someting like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241746
  02:41:778 (1,3) - here you can so something like you did 02:40:366 (1,3) -
  02:46:719 (7,1) - something equal, this one its very noticeable and doesnt looks good
  02:59:425 (3) - blanket
  03:00:131 (5,1) - why not something like 01:45:308 - <
  02:50:249 (1,4) - stack these properly
  03:00:131 (5,3) - blnanket?
  03:04:102 (1) - delete this :< just use the reverse (or well... no, its on you but I recommend to deleteeee)
  03:19:190 (3,2,1) - stacj their heads?
  03:22:013 - y u missed this :<?
  03:31:896 - ^ (this one more, because there are vocals! starting too!)
  03:28:896 (4,5) - 03:33:131 (2,3) - both should have same spacing (stack them)
  03:42:308 (4,2) - stack these properly
  04:29:072 (1) - this shape can be better,
  04:29:072 (1,2) - stackl
  04:36:837 (4,1) - avoid overlap
  04:38:955 (1) - > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241773
  04:44:425 (4) - stack this with the 3 and the others stacked there? 04:45:219 (3) -
  04:54:484 (1) - NICE :O!
  05:08:773 (1,2) - from https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241777 t o something more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241782 you got me ?
  05:15:623 (4) - bkanekr
  05:18:050 (1) - ^ blanket

Itasha_S13 wrote:

Hi from my Q

• Desperation
  
  00:07:655 (2,1) - make both shapes equal? yea, different sounds but you use the same shape once again here 00:09:271 (2) - so fix the 1 - Looked pretty similar to me, redid it just in case!~
  
  00:16:342 (5,1) - use the spacing like 00:09:877 (3,1) - ? to make it more "noticeable"? or idk its kinda weird now - Fiiine, since so many people complained about it.
  
  00:22:200 (7,1) - make both shapes equal < like copy + paste the 7 and rotate it to make it looks like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241653 – Fixed!
  
  00:29:069 (4) – nc? - Nope cuz it’s a pick-up note. That’s why NC is 00:29:473 (1).
  
  00:30:079 (2,3) - why is spacing here like this, but then here changes so suddenly? 00:30:887 (4,1) - because the vocals? if thats the point then move it like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241665 Because 00:30:887 (4,1,4,1). It’s following when she uses the higher pitch. Will change if mentioned again. (well it was but I really wanna keep this so I'll change it on next mention)
  00:31:897 (3,4,1,2,3) - but then you back to the short spacing ^
  00:34:120 (4,1) - and then long again :<. this feels really unconsistent ^
  
  00:40:786 (4) - oke this is not an "error" but you don't need too many white anchors to make the slider perfect :p https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241680 (ohh also notice the 5 slider, 00:41:998 (5) - how I moved it. its a suggestion) was gonna point it out on other line but now that you can see it in the same picture xDD – I do need those white anchors to make the slider smooth, also I took your suggestion about 00:41:998 (5)
  
  00:45:402 (6,1) – spacing – Picky, picky. Fixed!~
  
  00:47:708 (2,3,4,5) - and the spacing here is different than 00:44:602 (2,3,4,5) – Because it’s faster.
  
  00:51:474 (8) - make this totally vertical – Fixed! Also made the other sliders look nicer.~
  
  00:58:719 (1,2) - spacing?
  01:02:955 - lol, while I was playing it I didnt noticed that she says "uno, dos, t-t-t-t-t-t-tres" – Neither did I~
  
  01:12:131 (2) – clap? - Woops, yep. Fixed!
  
  01:16:366 - shouuld be clickable – Following the guitar thingy, so I want it to be held. Would also screw up most of my positioning.
  
  01:28:366 (1) - don't use red anchor on this slider :p keep the white ones – Agreed, fixed!
  
  01:45:308 (1) - I feel like this shape should be more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241704 – Personal preference.
  
  01:49:543 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move all of this to the left a bit (to stack 01:50:072 (5) - with 01:49:366 (10) - and avoid the overlap on 01:49:013 (8,1,2,3) – Sure, fixed! (Unless that makes the section feel weird, then I’m reverting it.)
  
  02:07:190 (3,1) - both shapes looks akward like that, I mean.... (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241718 like this so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241720 both looks more equal) Fixed!
  
  02:07:896 (1,2) – blanket – Isn’t meant to be.
  
  02:12:131 (1) - ^ - Fixed!
  
  02:17:778 (1,3) - make both shapes equal – Fixed!
  
  02:25:366 - why the green tick? nah you don't need it – To reset the volume back to normal after silencing the slider end of 02:25:366.
  
  02:26:513 (5,6) - should make something with its spacing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241738 – Fixed!
  
  02:26:249 (4,9) - should stack their heads – Fixed!
  
  02:27:660 (1,2) - here I recommend someting like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241746 – Fixed!
  
  02:41:778 (1,3) - here you can so something like you did 02:40:366 (1,3) – Fixed!
  
  02:46:719 (7,1) - something equal, this one its very noticeable and doesnt looks good – Ahh forgive me Yukiyo for I have failed you. :c Fixed!~
  
  02:59:425 (3) – blanket – Fixed!
  
  03:00:131 (5,1) - why not something like 01:45:308 – Fixed! (Will remove if it looks weird to anyone else though.)
  
  02:50:249 (1,4) - stack these properly – Already fixed!~
  
  03:00:131 (5,3) – blnanket? - Fixixed! Moved it around a bit.
  
  03:04:102 (1) - delete this :< just use the reverse (or well... no, its on you but I recommend to deleteeee) – Still has the effect I wanted, so fixed!
  
  03:19:190 (3,2,1) - stacj their heads? Fixed!~
  
  03:22:013 - y u missed this :<? - Fixed!~
  
  03:31:896 - ^ (this one more, because there are vocals! starting too!) Following bass here, will fix if brought up again.
  
  03:28:896 (4,5) - 03:33:131 (2,3) - both should have same spacing (stack them) Fixed!
  
  03:42:308 (4,2) - stack these properly – Already fixed!~
  
  04:29:072 (1) - this shape can be better – Personal preference
  
  04:29:072 (1,2) – stackl – Fixed!
  
  04:36:837 (4,1) - avoid overlap - Fixed!~
  
  04:38:955 (1) - > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241773 – Um. Fixed? Pretty vague here.
  
  04:44:425 (4) - stack this with the 3 and the others stacked there? 04:45:219 (3) – Fixed!
  
  04:54:484 (1) - NICE :O! Thank you!~
  
  05:08:773 (1,2) - from https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241777 t o something more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6241782 you got me ? - Gotchu fam. Fixed!
  
  05:15:623 (4) – bkanekr – Fixixr!~
  
  05:18:050 (1) - ^ blanket - Fixed!~

tbh I really liked this song and map You're too kind. xP

Combo1 : 64,0,64
Combo2 : 0,0,255
Combo3 : 128,0,255
Combo4 : 128,0,64

DakiniBrave wrote:

Responding M4M

Sorry really brief mod, i really like your map and really hard to find flaws at least in my eyes anyway. Anything is better than nothing!

Desperation

02:09:308 (1) - I feel that this note could be on a bit more of an angle or slightly more curved to blanket the next note as you can see it seems really off Nice find! Fixed!

Try putting 02:53:778 (3,4,5) - on a 5 degree angle, looks better to me thought you might like it more with no angle – I do like it with no angle, so I’ll keep it vertical.

02:54:484 (5) - could be CNTRL + G, might add for a bit more fun than just upward sliders, really just personally preference – It would be fun if there was a reason to, but since the majority of sliders would be facing the opposite direction, I feel it’s variety where none is needed. The pattern follows the bass which is repeating this same sound, so… yeah.

02:55:013 (7) - try moving it over a bit more to fit the 5 degree angle if you choose to use it – Again, nice find! Fixed!

Other than that, I love your map, really seems well polished and fun, sorry i couldnt be more of a help >.< Aww, thank you so much!

O-Moei wrote:

Hi !, 🌀NM request

✨ = Suggestion (Common opinion. No change, no problem)
💧 = Uuhhh? (Something feels wrong around here...)
💥 = Warning !!! (Yu know wat tu du xD )

Here we go...

General
💧What is "style7" in you beatmap file for ? Um… leftovers? x.x Removed!

✨Still have no combo colors ?. This is my suggestion

Combo1 : 64,0,64
Combo2 : 0,0,255
Combo3 : 128,0,255
Combo4 : 128,0,64

Took them! Except 2, I changed that slightly. Whether they appear or not I don’t know since they never worked for me. Oh well.

💧Hitsounding where ? Everywhere.~

💧I'm not a bpm expert, but i think some timing doesn't went really well. Like here 05:21:610 - . the metronome feels come a little earlier. Try to find another timing check. It doesn’t feel like it hinders play at all. I don’t know. If anyone else complains about it I’ll get a check. The BPM is correct though, it’s just I have to snap it otherwise it acts all weird in-game.

Desperation
✨00:21:392 (5) - NC since you NC every 1 measure – Fixed!
00:40:786 (4) - ^ for variety – Agreed, fixed!

💧03:33:131 (2,3) - Uhhh ?? - Fixed!

💧01:26:249 (2,3) - Their spacing quite tricky for players, since you give lesser gap for longer beat here 01:25:543 (1,2) - . Cuz it's really different with 03:58:013 (1,2,3) - Well obviously it’s a longer gap, there’s a pause.

✨01:41:955 (1,2,3) - Their flow doesn't provides well for players. Trust me ! XDXD. Maybe 01:42:308 (3) - have this stacked with at lest 01:40:896 (4) - is much more fitting - Fixed, but if any issues arise from this change, I will revert immediately.

✨02:07:896 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Have them equal spacing – Fixed!

✨03:18:308 (9) - make this stacked with 03:17:778 (6) - is better – Agreed, fixed!

💧03:55:234 (1,2) - No.. not like this. Delete (2) then extend (1) to replace (2)'s snap is suitable rhythmic play you've been followed – Fixed!

💧04:12:131 (1,2,3,4) - I think they should be triples (if you following melodies of course) – If mentioned again, will change.

✨05:00:484 (2) - Start NC after that big slider, for variety – No because it ends on a downbeat (sue me, it fits for this part) so I want to combo to be consistent.


Overall, you might want to find another modder check for structural ability. Okei, that's all from me. All e best

DJ Fish wrote:

Hi for the m4m of your queue

Desperation

00:03:615 (1,2) - Make these two look like the sliders at 00:04:423 (2,1) so the pattern would look symmetrical (Copy and paste the slider and just flip them)
00:06:645 (3,1) - The distance of these two objects at each other should be similar to the distance of the objects at 00:09:877 (3,1)
00:23:008 (1) - Make this slider's shape look similar to the slider at 00:22:200 (3) (Copy and paste it then press Ctrl + J, Ctrl +H)
00:30:281 (3) - Make this slider's shape look similar to the slider at 00:29:473 (1)
00:33:513 (3) - Make this slider's shape look similar to the slider at 00:32:705 (1)
00:44:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try fixing the curve of these circles
01:30:660 (6,7,8) - These might look better if you made them straight instead of curved but thats only my opinion though
01:44:955 (4,5,6) - Move these so they don't overlap with 01:43:896 (3)
01:45:308 (1) - Maybe make a better slider shape
01:56:602 (1) - ^^^
02:07:013 (2) - Try making the distance of this circle from the previous and next object equal maybe by moving this 3 grids to the left
02:12:837 (3) - Make this slider's look similar to the slider at 02:12:131 (1) by copying the slider at 02:12:131 (1) and flipping it
02:41:072 (3) - Make this slider's look similar to the slider at 02:40:366 (1) by copying the slider at 02:40:366 (1) and flipping it (And ofcourse you have to move 02:41:602 (4) after changing the slider)
03:00:308 (1) - Maybe try chaging this slider's shape
03:05:778 (1) - Move this away from 03:07:190 (1)

Chalwa wrote:

Hello! M4M!
(Sorry, I know, I'm late, but... i wrote on PM)

[Desperation]

1. 00:13:311 (1,2) - Why you didn't make here 1.1x DS like in another places?? And also blanket improve. Fixed!
   
2. 00:16:342 (5) - Make NC here, cause followpoint from 00:14:928 (4) looks imo ugly. Nope, it’s because it’s a follow in from the last downbeat.
   
3. 00:29:069 (4) - NC too, cause here voices start. ^
   
4. 00:44:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - What do you think about make jumps here? Imo what did you make here doesn't looks good. So make a star like in a screen: click! Nope!~ I like it how it is.
   
5. 00:47:708 (2,3,4,5) - The same like above ^
6. 01:26:249 (2,3,4,5) - This is very hard to read. Imo the best thing what you can make here is stack all – Disagree, this is easy to read.
   
7. 02:02:072 (10) - Stack it with 02:01:367 (5) for better flow? - Intention was to flow break, not create flow.
   
8. 02:11:955 (4,1) - Blanket improve – Fixed!
   
9. 02:16:366 (1,4) - Stack it with end of 02:16:366 (1) for avoid overlap - Fixed!
   
10. 02:30:484 (1,2) - Improve this blanket?? - Fixed!~
    
11. 02:49:719 (7) - Make this curve smaller, cause it looks ugly now - Fixed!
    
12. 02:55:013 (7) - Move it to x:184 y:88, cause it playable then. Now it's too high jump imo. - Moved it, but not that low.
    
13. 04:29:072 (1) - Why this slider looks weird?? Remove first white point... It looks much better! - Woops, fixed.
    
14. 05:21:612 - Imo from here it's 47.5 BPM – It's correct.

END!
It's good map and nice song
GOOD LUCK!!!

Lily Bread wrote:

03:33:131 (2,3) - two objects at one time. please make - 03:33:131 (2) - reverse twice instead of three times.

nice map.

_Meep_ wrote:

m4m

ze mods by ze meep

despair(my soul mate)
00:32:705 (1,2,3) - note 2 isn't centered between them,im triggered - Fixed!
00:40:786 (1) - Why does the sliderend have that small little bump? or why does it have that second last grey bezier? Fixed!
01:22:543 (2,1) - Blanket properly plez https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281495 - The blanket is perfect as it is.

Well polished and I don't see any blanket errors despite the length of the song,nicely done <3
gl for rank

-himei wrote:

from my queue:
00:26:039 (4,5,1) - make it more pretty? http://puu.sh/rHYEc/8df3d9bee9.jpg
00:29:473 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent ds inbetween 3/4
00:48:662 - from here on the sv should be increasing.
01:04:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make them more pretty? select 1,2,3 copy, paste, and use ctrl+h/g
01:10:013 (1) - 333/147
01:32:249 (2,3) - what the point of this object placement? 01:32:425 - theres no palpable sound you can emphasize with silder and whistle
just extend the slider and remove the note instead
anything this section seems to be remaped
01:31:543 - and 01:31:719 - and 01:32:602 - and 01:32:778 - 01:33:308 - 01:33:396 - etc are unmapped for some reason
also, please use 1/8 snap divisor, it just fits to this song.
01:34:013 (1) - same thing, undermapping.
you got a tripplet here 01:34:013 (1) -
alright, you should remap this part from 01:31:190 - to 01:36:837 - the song get more intensive, but you got boring sliders with the same velocity.
01:36:837 (1,2,3,4) - why is (4) angled that bad? lmao
01:41:955 (1,2,3) - these should be sliderkicks. it fits to the song way better
02:09:837 (2,3,4) - dude please ;w;
02:19:190 (1,2) - why didnt you use the same patterns with long slider and a note? like this 02:17:778 (1,2) -
02:21:131 (2,3,4) - same issue, make it more stucked
02:37:366 (3) - i dont recommend you to use <25% volume by any reasons at all. except slide ends and spinners.

alright i think im done for now.
it can be a long mod, but the thing is that the more you will learn from other maps, from mods etc, the more you will remap.
and im pretty sure if you are aimed for ranking you once realize that this map should be remapped like for its entire duration.

gl !

-himei wrote:

from my queue:
00:26:039 (4,5,1) - make it more pretty? http://puu.sh/rHYEc/8df3d9bee9.jpg – This is fine. I don’t get how that is nicer.
00:29:473 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent ds inbetween 3/4 – Fixed that whole area, hopefully.
00:48:662 - from here on the sv should be increasing. - Um it is. The bpm goes up, thus slider velocity does too. I don’t wanna make it a massive change cuz I’m saving that until after the first chorus.
01:04:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make them more pretty? select 1,2,3 copy, paste, and use ctrl+h/g – Fine by me, fixed.
01:10:013 (1) – 333/147 – Sure, fixed.
01:32:249 (2,3) - what the point of this object placement? 01:32:425 - theres no palpable sound you can emphasize with silder and whistle
just extend the slider and remove the note instead
anything this section seems to be remaped
01:31:543 - and 01:31:719 - and 01:32:602 - and 01:32:778 - 01:33:308 - 01:33:396 - etc are unmapped for some reason
also, please use 1/8 snap divisor, it just fits to this song. All of these things I do. Also, they’re following the vocals so I don’t get what you’re trying to say. It’s meant to follow the vocal so the drop has more impact.
01:34:013 (1) - same thing, undermapping. - Yeah, no. Intended.
you got a tripplet here 01:34:013 (1) – Don’t need it.
alright, you should remap this part from 01:31:190 - to 01:36:837 - the song get more intensive, but you got boring sliders with the same velocity. - Jumps later do the intensity increasing stuff for me. 01:36:837 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) -
01:36:837 (1,2,3,4) - why is (4) angled that bad? Lmao – I don’t get it. They’re all the same angle.
01:41:955 (1,2,3) - these should be sliderkicks. it fits to the song way better – There are three sounds yet you want me to map six. Sorry, but this part doesn’t need to be overmapped, it’s hard enough as it is.
02:09:837 (2,3,4) - dude please ;w; - Not a useful comment, but I get it. Fixed.
02:19:190 (1,2) - why didnt you use the same patterns with long slider and a note? like this 02:17:778 (1,2) – Fixed.
02:21:131 (2,3,4) - same issue, make it more stucked - Done.
02:37:366 (3) - i dont recommend you to use <25% volume by any reasons at all. except slide ends and spinners. - Kay. Fixed.

alright i think im done for now.
it can be a long mod, but the thing is that the more you will learn from other maps, from mods etc, the more you will remap.
and im pretty sure if you are aimed for ranking you once realize that this map should be remapped like for its entire duration.

gl !

Chocobo wrote:

Hi, from my queue, M4M req;

MODDING

1. 00:10:079 (1,2,1,2) - make a shape; - Done.
2. 00:23:817 (2,3,1,2) - ummmm, make a square; - Done.
3. 00:30:887 (4) - spacing issue; Intended. Emphasizes vocals.
4. 00:38:968 (8) - I suggest using a slider to replace it, like this: –
but for consistency with other similar parts, think twice before applying that; - No thanks. It’s fine as it is. Would break the patterns I set up.
5. 00:51:474 (8,1) – blanket; - Done.
6. 01:42:484 (1,2,3) - make them better; - Done.
7. 02:45:308 (3,4) – blanket? - Not intended.
8. 04:03:484 (6) - spacing issue; - Intended, emphasizes vocals.
9. 05:21:610 - use green line to gradually decrease the hitsounds; - Done.

ADVISE

1. concentrate on symmetric of objects;
2. try to make shape of circles;
3. avoid sudden change in distance;

Nice map~, hope the modding may help;

Lyssei wrote:

Look it's a mod! More or less.

17:42 Mir: did i tell you i remapped my first map for rank xd
17:43 Lyssei: Oh
17:43 Lyssei: nope but show me
17:43 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1092357 Trivecta - Labyrinth (feat. Miyoki) [Desperation]]
17:44 Lyssei: Ohh I saw you map that and watch others play it
17:44 Mir: mhm
17:44 Lyssei: Didn't know that was your first tho
17:44 Mir: cuz it has some really spaced triples in it xD
17:44 Lyssei: I see
17:44 Lyssei: Wanna watch me play it?
17:44 *Lyssei is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1092357 Trivecta - Labyrinth (feat. Miyoki) [Desperation]] -NoFail
17:44 Lyssei: Don't judge my nf k
17:45 Mir: okok
17:50 Lyssei: Huh didn't need nf hm
17:50 Mir: so much edge in that map holy
17:50 Mir: LOL
17:50 Lyssei: Ah, you really like making your maps hard to read tho
17:51 Mir: this one was thematically hard in the sense that
17:51 Mir: a labyrinth is hard to find your way
17:51 Mir: and you end up going back and forth
17:51 Lyssei: Sec lemme play again cuz I need to check smt xD I'll tell you some things after
17:51 Mir: hence copy-paste patterning
17:51 Mir: oki
17:53 Lyssei: Hmm
17:53 Lyssei: It's not that the triples are too hard for 5*, but
17:54 Lyssei: Honestly they are a bit over the top
17:54 Lyssei: Also, I'm pretty sure if you removed them it wouldn't even reach 5* lol
17:54 Lyssei: Bit big of a difference
17:55 Mir: LOL
17:55 Mir: yeah probably
17:55 Mir: im considering nerfing them
17:57 Lyssei: You really should imo xd
17:57 Lyssei: Ah, tho
17:57 Lyssei: I like your slow sv
17:58 Mir: hehe
17:58 Lyssei: 01:07:719 (1,2,3) - These aren't readable though
17:58 Lyssei: Unless you feel like going lindwurm
17:58 Lyssei: A bit the same as your stronger jump triples, can't read either, but
17:58 Lyssei: These ones aren't over the top for spacing I'd say
17:58 Mir: brb x
17:59 Lyssei: It's just that you don't expect it at all at this point
17:59 Lyssei: Sure
18:00 Lyssei: After 01:02:072 (6,7,8) - , nobody is going to ever expect you to suddenly make 01:07:719 (1,2,3) - x_x But yeah overall it's pretty nice, smooth play and all, slow sv fits the music
18:02 Lyssei: The part after 01:31:190 - Is pretty hard to read right away, but personally I don't think it's TOO hard, just making it sliiightly clearer would work better. Also, if you do nerf the triples and it ends up being a 3*, you wouldn't be able to make this this hard to read :^)
18:02 Lyssei: I'm exaggerating a bit but you get the point
18:03 Lyssei: I don't hear any sound on 01:41:866 (2) -
18:04 Mir: will change the 1:31 part as i was considering that anyways
18:04 Mir: concerning the first point you make the music where i space the triple is noticeably different
18:04 Mir: so it sets up "the music is different so spacing will be inverted" idea
18:04 Mir: there also is a sound on 1:41
18:04 Mir: the wub thingy
18:05 Lyssei: No that starts on the 1 after
18:05 Mir: play it on 25%
18:05 Lyssei: Also well yeah sound but surely nothing clickable
18:05 Lyssei: And with this much emphasis wow
18:05 Mir: that's totally clickable like
18:06 Mir: it's a major change in the song
18:06 Mir: and that's another place to set up "song is wildly different so triple spacing will be high" idea
18:06 Lyssei: Not on 01:41:866 (2) - there isn't xd
18:06 Mir: no there's clearly a sound therel mfao
18:06 Lyssei: Your set up needs a set up if you really want it to be this strong >.>
18:07 Mir: well i said id nerf it
18:07 Mir: so ye
18:08 Lyssei: Also
18:08 Lyssei: 01:02:072 (6,7,8) - Is the exact same drum triple as 01:07:719 (1,2,3) -
18:08 Mir: yeah but listen to the overall music
18:09 Mir: in the first one you link the music is generally all calm and normal
18:09 Mir: but the spaced one the background effects stop and the vocals come in with the te-te-te-te
18:09 Lyssei: And in the second as well :./
18:09 Lyssei: :/*
18:09 Mir: 1:02 is just a normal triple to me
18:09 Mir: 1:07 is clearly made to stand out musically so
18:09 Lyssei: So is 1.07 x)
18:09 Mir: i mapped it differently
18:10 Lyssei: Sure
18:10 Mir: listen not to the individual sound but to the music around it
18:10 Lyssei: But I really don't agree in this case ahehe
18:10 Lyssei: Yes I know what you mean
18:10 Lyssei: But I disagree
18:10 Mir: the same sound can have different emphasis based on how the music portrays it
18:10 Lyssei: I know, really, I do xD
18:11 Mir: well then this should make sense from my perspective x)
18:11 Mir: so we can agree to disagree
18:11 Lyssei: mhm
18:11 Lyssei: Also one thing that's eh kinda weird but not technically bad
18:11 Mir: tho i will nerf them all xD
18:11 Lyssei: At first I though you made it to show the lyric "unos" but then this 01:17:072 (1) -
18:12 Mir: you're reading too much into it xD
18:12 Mir: was unintentional on my part at least
18:12 Lyssei: 01:05:778 (1) - >_>
18:13 Lyssei: UNOS "Shows <1>"
18:13 Lyssei: Or maybe I should say uno
18:13 Lyssei: But honestly the way she says it kinda sounds like unos
18:13 Mir: it is uno
18:13 Lyssei: yeah, but
18:14 Lyssei: Well I guess it's more like "uno-[BREATHES OUT]"
18:14 Lyssei: And less uno-s
18:14 Mir: k changed it just for the sake of it
18:14 Lyssei: Sure xD
18:14 Mir: i don't feel like arguing over something so trivial
18:14 Lyssei: Ah, I wasn't trying to argue xd
18:14 Lyssei: Just mentioned it was a bit odd
18:16 Mir: nerfing them xd
18:17 Lyssei: Good luck xD
18:17 Lyssei: Ah, there's a couple combos that seem rather long, but I'm not sure if you paid attention to those yet
18:17 Lyssei: Or maybe you just had to reason to nc specifically
18:17 Mir: example?
18:18 Lyssei: 02:24:837 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
18:21 Lyssei: 04:00:837 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - These are also long but it repeats and it's really on the edge of what you'd call long so personally I feel it's fine, but in case you hadn't noticed them yet, maybe you'll want to nc them somewhere, maybe not
18:22 Mir: the first one i changed
18:22 Mir: second one is okay tbh
18:22 Lyssei: Yeah
18:24 Lyssei: I suggest you make these easier to read, as they're really irregular 04:47:072 (1,1,1) -
18:24 Mir: hm
18:24 Lyssei: It's good to make them sliders but not sure if it's quite alright as is, reading wise
18:24 Mir: yeah
18:24 Mir: since it's the first occurance of 1/3
18:24 Mir: i'll just reverse it
18:24 Lyssei: mhm
18:24 Lyssei: Oh, alright
18:25 Mir: 04:52:366 (1,1,1) - that makes this more expectable then
18:25 Lyssei: Yeah, I was going to mention those as well, but they're cleared after having them before already so those are fine
18:26 Lyssei: Make sure you do keep all six of them nc'd though so it's recognizable
18:26 Mir: yeap
18:26 Lyssei: Well, I think those were about all of my remarks atm
18:27 Mir: sounds good
18:27 Lyssei: Aside from those where I mentioned it wasn't the case, it plays quite well
18:28 Mir: managed to nerf it without killing too much concept xD
18:28 Lyssei: Ah xD Well that should be good
18:28 Lyssei: I gtg but I'll quickly go over the nerfs to see what you changed ah
18:29 Mir: updooted
18:29 Mir: if you want you can actually get kds from it
18:29 Mir: if you do /savelog
18:29 Mir: and post on the thread
18:29 Mir: cuz this was basically a small irc mod lol
18:29 Lyssei: Oh, sure x3
18:29 Lyssei: Although
18:29 Lyssei: I am a bit shy still = -=a
18:29 Mir: shh it's okay
18:31 Mir: a
18:31 Mir: i forgot to nerf the first one
18:31 Mir: LOL
18:31 Mir: actually
18:31 Mir: hmm
18:31 Lyssei: lel
18:31 Mir: slight nerf
18:31 Mir: i still need it to be fairly spaced
18:31 Lyssei: Mhm
18:32 Lyssei: Ah, these though 01:52:896 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think it should be fine since the timing is so vastly different, but perhaps you want to nudge these sets a little to look less like your currently nerfed triples
18:33 Mir: did something else
18:33 Mir: i actually was considering changing that a bit to be more intense
18:33 Lyssei: Ah?
18:33 Mir: i ctrl+g'd 4 and 5
18:33 Mir: so they're switched now
18:33 Lyssei: Oh, I see
18:33 Lyssei: That should make it cleared yeah
18:33 Lyssei: Well, anyway like I said I gtg, so
18:34 Mir: save log D:
18:34 Mir: post for kdsss
18:34 Lyssei: ye ye
18:34 Lyssei: did
18:34 Mir: ayy
18:34 Mir: first kds from me :'3
18:34 Lyssei:
18:34 Lyssei: ty ty
18:34 Lyssei: I'll post it a bit later tho lol
18:34 Mir: okay
18:35 Lyssei: Welp, bbl o/ Good luck with your map, it looks nice so far
18:35 Lyssei: OH where did I suddenly get 2101 pp
18:48 Lyssei: I don't suppose you can send me a copy of the log? :^)
18:49 Mir: holy
18:49 Mir: did you lose it
18:49 Lyssei: Otherwise it'll have to wait till tomorrow lol
18:49 Lyssei: Nah but

Here you go x3
Good luck with the map~

Landwii wrote:

5 mins... Okthen, here goes mod from queueee

[Mod]- Make the approach rate higher to avoid messy looking things like in 01:18:484. - the ar is already a lot higher than usual making it higher is lol
- HP drain rate has to be at least 6. - not really needed tbh
- Flow changes in the map feel extremely unsmooth sometimes. like in 01:53:072 (3). - that's intentional
- Some Combo Colors blend too much with the BG. This would make the map Unrankable (And we don't want that). - honestly i don't think they're that bad but if a bn tells me to change it i will
from 00:03:615 (1) to 00:18:968 (4) - try further distance snap. It makes it look more dynamic and help it flow better. - it's not supposed to be dynamic it's supposed to be slow and lazy just like the song is
from 00:20:584 (4) to 00:25:433 (4) - Same here. ^
00:19:776 (1) - Try making this a triangle rather than a line. - no lmao this is completely intentional
00:45:202 (10) - Move this a bit so that it doesn't overlap with the 8 and make the distance less with (11). This looks weird here because of (5). - it's okay tbh
00:54:484 (1) - A break would feel better but if you wanna keep the score it's all right not to change anything. - nah I like this spinner better because the sound is whooshy
01:04:543 (1) - This is akward with the rythm (doesn't feel like the song calls a jump.) - agree made the 3 a jump instead of the 1
01:06:484 (2) - This is too far for what the map has stablished. - ok ctrl+g'd it
from 01:06:837 (1) to 01:08:425 (3) - Looks really messy, try making it a series of jumps. - this is all part of the concept, so i won't change this
02:36:131 (1) - The player would expect this to be diagonal from the last slider. - flow change for emphasis
02:53:778 (1) - This is a thing you should have introduced earlier, it's too late and the player will most likely lose at this time. - ??? this is super easy it's just singletapping
04:00:484 (9) - So many reasons why why should move this, Mainly cause the player will probably go back to move another slider that doesn't exist and then notice there was a circle stuck to a 1/2 gap. - this will never happen because the 9 appears when you hit the 8 so there's NO way that situation will happen unless the player sucks
04:03:484 (9) - Same here. - ^
04:38:602 (3) - This is all cluttered into an unreadable ball. - nope, this is fine because it's a circular stream and is easily readable in that sense
04:44:249 (2) - There was a 2 right here so players will NOT see this. - you underestimate players, this is definitely readable as i've seen in the various testplays i've gotten
05:24:026 (1) - This overlaps a UI. - cool, not really needed to change

I gotta say good Job, I see a bunch of potential there especially if it is still a WIP. As You can see, this is also a hard song for me since I'm pretty new.

sdafsf wrote:

Desperation

1. 00:26:039 (5,6,1) - this triple seems visually out of place imo. either blanket it with the head of 00:25:433 (4) - or make it one curve with 1 - changed
2. 00:27:049 (2,3) - id space this similar to 00:52:366 (6,1) - since you spaced all the 1/1s and this 1 is pretty dominant - i don't think it's so dominant, the bpm change creates an overall emphasis so i'll keep them the same spacing
3. 01:18:484 (4,5,6,7,8) - increasing spacing overtime would be neat here since the sounds get louder - mmm only slightly though, i think just having them move around is enough for me
4. 01:36:837 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - this is pretty underwhealming considering this is the big build up. its also way more intense than this 01:34:543 (2,3,4,5) - - remapped cuz i agree
5. 02:44:602 (1,2) - maybe tilt these against each other. parallel isnt always the neatest imo - think it's fine tbh
6. 02:54:484 (1,1,1) - ignoring the vocals here seems weird to me - focusing on the unique wubs
7. 03:17:425 (7) - the sound here is too weak to be mapped here imo. the song seems to suggest a 1/1 gap - agreed
8. 04:07:896 (1,2,3,4) - make the visual spacing consistent here. i dont hear anything that suggests the decline - i tried
9. 05:10:789 (1,1,2,1) - feels weird to me that all of these areconsistently spaced. make something besides the nc to show that theres no strong sound on 2. maybe move it closer to 05:11:352 (1) - I think 2 has a strong sound on it even though it's not high pitched. It's just a different tone so I'll keep this

neat map! really clean too. gl i hope to see it ranked soon

1. These combo colours aren't really discernible visually, and white combo colours shouldn't be used in kiai cuz it hurts people's eyes. (Hint: Ranking Criteria)
2. Unused hitsounds:
   
   1. soft-hitfinish2.wav
3. Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
   
   1. soft-hitclap2.wav

1. 00:25:433 (4) - Should be 2 circles. There's another piano sound coming in so using a different rhythm to differentiate it from 00:23:008 (1,2,3) would be cool, since they have different sounds.
2. 00:31:089 (5) - Using a curve slider combined with 00:31:897 (7) doesn't really show a clear relation on vocals compared to how 00:29:473 (1,3) - are used to present the repetitiveness of vocals.
3. 00:47:136 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - Could do something with your flow here to make it a bit trickier and more consistent with 00:43:602 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - since vocals on both of these measures are pretty much similar, 00:44:002 - this measure you switched the flow around between clockwise and counter-clockwise, how about applying the similar thing on 00:47:136 as well? Since the flow is going counter-clockwise through the entire pattern.
4. 01:18:484 (4,5,6,7,8) - These are barely audible lol, really edgy in terms of rankability.
5. 01:27:308 (7,8) - Could use a 1/2 slider instead here, since the vocal is held longer. Same applies to 01:30:131 (7,8) - 03:59:778 (7,8) - 04:02:602 (7,8) as well if you apply my suggestion.
6. 01:35:248 (1,2) - Swap NC?
7. I don't know if you're using an entirely different concept or whatever in the later half of that kiai but it doesn't look too good since these sections aren't that different rhythmically:
   
   1. 01:55:190 (1,2) - 01:58:013 (6,7) - Was expecting these to be long sliders like 01:43:896 (1) - 01:46:719 (1) . This is not a really good variation cuz you're using different rhythms between these 01:53:778 (1) - 01:55:190 (1,2) - 01:56:602 (1) - 01:58:013 (6,7) in the later half but you didn't do the same thing with the earlier half.
   2. 01:45:308 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - And tbh you should do something like this in the later half of that kiai too for consistency in terms of relation between patterns.
8. 01:58:013 (6,1) - Swap NC? For consistency with 01:46:719 .
9. 02:04:366 (4,5) - 02:04:719 (6) - Might as well use the same rhythm on both of these cuz this 02:04:366 is pretty much same as 02:04:719 and 02:04:543 is same as 02:04:896 respectively.
10. 02:08:425 - Was expecting a circle here like 02:05:602 (2,5) - 02:11:249 (2,6) .
11. 02:11:955 (4) - Can be removed for consistency with 02:06:308 .
12. 02:17:072 (3,4,5) - Any reason for having a different rhythm on this from 02:18:484 (3,4) - 02:19:896 (3,4) . Currently it looks like an inconsistency rather than a variation zz
13. 02:20:602 (5) - Could NC here too actually for consistency with 02:16:366 (1,1,1) .
14. 03:01:719 (1,1) - You can silence the spinner ends too so they don't stick out too much.
15. 03:24:133 (1) - 03:30:843 (5) - Unsnapped zz
16. 03:25:896 (7,8,9) - The placements look like they're in the same pattern but you didn't do this kind of thing at 03:20:602 (3,4) - 03:23:425 (9,10) - despite having repetitive rhythms zz, actually 03:25:896 (7) could be circles too to differentiate from 03:26:249 (8,9) .
17. 03:28:896 (8,1) - Not playable for me lol even after several tries cuz you hid 03:28:896 (8) under 03:28:719 (7) and there's no clear indication on how this spacing 03:28:896 (8,1) is different from the rest. Sure the slider 03:28:896 (8) could indicate something but probably not as 1/4 lol, I read this 03:28:896 (8,1) as 1/2 for a first few times since the spacing on this is an entirely different scale from spacings used in the section before.
18. 04:04:366 (3,4,5,6) - Is there any meaning for overlapping these in particular? You overlapped stuff like this most of the time to present repetitiveness of the song but this one doesn’t have anything from the song to support the overlaps in particular.
19. 04:14:955 (1,2) - Visually cramped more than anything else in that part. Ctrl+H 04:14:955 (1) could work, it will look pretty much same as 04:26:249 (1,2) .
20. 04:34:719 (1) - Why are you doing a different shape when you didn't do it with other sliders like 04:23:425 (1) zz
21. 05:14:823 - Conflicted volume settings between timing lines.
22. 05:16:423 (1,2,3) - Could apply something like 05:13:275 (3,4,5) on this one too for a more consistent variation, you only did 05:13:275 (3,4,5) once tho so the variation atm is more on the inconsistent side.

Electoz wrote:

Hi I'm suck at modding

[General]

1. These combo colours aren't really discernible visually, and white combo colours shouldn't be used in kiai cuz it hurts people's eyes. (Hint: Ranking Criteria)
2. Unused hitsounds:
   
   1. soft-hitfinish2.wav
3. Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
   
   1. soft-hitclap2.wav

For the hitsound thing I just pasted it from MA so might as well double check with Audacity or something just in case. - all fixed

[Desperation]

1. 00:25:433 (4) - Should be 2 circles. There's another piano sound coming in so using a different rhythm to differentiate it from 00:23:008 (1,2,3) would be cool, since they have different sounds.
2. 00:31:089 (5) - Using a curve slider combined with 00:31:897 (7) doesn't really show a clear relation on vocals compared to how 00:29:473 (1,3) - are used to present the repetitiveness of vocals. - yes and 00:31:089 (5) - has a higher pitch on it so it's not straight, while 1,3,7 are since the pitch is the same. Same goes for 00:34:322 (5) -
3. 00:47:136 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - Could do something with your flow here to make it a bit trickier and more consistent with 00:43:602 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - since vocals on both of these measures are pretty much similar, 00:44:002 - this measure you switched the flow around between clockwise and counter-clockwise, how about applying the similar thing on 00:47:136 as well? Since the flow is going counter-clockwise through the entire pattern. - did things here that fits with the rest of the map more
4. 01:18:484 (4,5,6,7,8) - These are barely audible lol, really edgy in terms of rankability. - raised volume
5. 01:27:308 (7,8) - Could use a 1/2 slider instead here, since the vocal is held longer. Same applies to 01:30:131 (7,8) - 03:59:778 (7,8) - 04:02:602 (7,8) as well if you apply my suggestion. - kinda want the drums for 01:27:660 (8,9) - to be clickable so not gonna apply this
6. 01:35:248 (1,2) - Swap NC? - yeah woops
7. I don't know if you're using an entirely different concept or whatever in the later half of that kiai but it doesn't look too good since these sections aren't that different rhythmically:
   
   1. 01:55:190 (1,2) - 01:58:013 (6,7) - Was expecting these to be long sliders like 01:43:896 (1) - 01:46:719 (1) . This is not a really good variation cuz you're using different rhythms between these 01:53:778 (1) - 01:55:190 (1,2) - 01:56:602 (1) - 01:58:013 (6,7) in the later half but you didn't do the same thing with the earlier half. - yeah i really don't know what i was thinking, i assumed it was slightly different but varied it too much, fixed this
   2. 01:45:308 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - And tbh you should do something like this in the later half of that kiai too for consistency in terms of relation between patterns.-
      did this too but kept the triangles because the rhythm is actually different there
8. 01:58:013 (6,1) - Swap NC? For consistency with 01:46:719 . -mhm
9. 02:04:366 (4,5) - 02:04:719 (6) - Might as well use the same rhythm on both of these cuz this 02:04:366 is pretty much same as 02:04:719 and 02:04:543 is same as 02:04:896 respectively. - made it a line
10. 02:08:425 - Was expecting a circle here like 02:05:602 (2,5) - 02:11:249 (2,6) . - true
11. 02:11:955 (4) - Can be removed for consistency with 02:06:308 . - yep
12. 02:17:072 (3,4,5) - Any reason for having a different rhythm on this from 02:18:484 (3,4) - 02:19:896 (3,4) . Currently it looks like an inconsistency rather than a variation zz - was a mistake i suppose
13. 02:20:602 (5) - Could NC here too actually for consistency with 02:16:366 (1,1,1) . - fixed ncs
14. 03:01:719 (1,1) - You can silence the spinner ends too so they don't stick out too much. - seems good
15. 03:24:133 (1) - 03:30:843 (5) - Unsnapped zz - no idea how but fixed lol
16. 03:25:896 (7,8,9) - The placements look like they're in the same pattern but you didn't do this kind of thing at 03:20:602 (3,4) - 03:23:425 (9,10) - despite having repetitive rhythms zz, actually 03:25:896 (7) could be circles too to differentiate from 03:26:249 (8,9) . - okay
17. 03:28:896 (8,1) - Not playable for me lol even after several tries cuz you hid 03:28:896 (8) under 03:28:719 (7) and there's no clear indication on how this spacing 03:28:896 (8,1) is different from the rest. Sure the slider 03:28:896 (8) could indicate something but probably not as 1/4 lol, I read this 03:28:896 (8,1) as 1/2 for a first few times since the spacing on this is an entirely different scale from spacings used in the section before. - removed the slider lol i was thinking about this but turns out it's a pretty shit idea
18. 04:04:366 (3,4,5,6) - Is there any meaning for overlapping these in particular? You overlapped stuff like this most of the time to present repetitiveness of the song but this one doesn’t have anything from the song to support the overlaps in particular. - fixed
19. 04:14:955 (1,2) - Visually cramped more than anything else in that part. Ctrl+H 04:14:955 (1) could work, it will look pretty much same as 04:26:249 (1,2) . - yeah it's visually cramped because i wanted to make the 1 stand out, ctrl+h won't hurt so will do that
20. 04:34:719 (1) - Why are you doing a different shape when you didn't do it with other sliders like 04:23:425 (1) zz - fixed lo
21. 05:14:823 - Conflicted volume settings between timing lines. - fixed
22. 05:16:423 (1,2,3) - Could apply something like 05:13:275 (3,4,5) on this one too for a more consistent variation, you only did 05:13:275 (3,4,5) once tho so the variation atm is more on the inconsistent side. - agreed

Would have a great potential for an icon if I still were a BN lol, good luck~

Halfslashed wrote:

I'm late.
[Desperation]
00:06:645 (5) - I cannot hear what this is mapped to. While I could see it making sense as an additive rhythm due to 00:09:877 (5), I think that it takes away from the impact of the next note in favor of making the rhythm more predictable. Consider removing this. - i'd rather keep it, there is a piano note there
00:09:877 (5) - This could be stacked under the slider tail of 00:09:271 (4) for some more emphasis to 00:10:079 (1), or use your overlap concept from 00:16:342 (4,1). - that concept is different cuz it's after a pause and is supposed to be sort of lax into the next section, i think this is okay because it's not especially different nor needing of special emphasis
00:19:776 (1,2,3) - This pattern doesn't put too much stress on the strong beat, 00:20:180 (3) due to the constant linear motion and spacing. It's not strong enough to justify a spacing increase, so how about using a triangle pattern here instead for the angle difference? - did something here
00:22:806 (7) - Yeah this beat is here, but you were following piano, so I don't really see the purpose here unless you are using additive rhythm. - yeah thats too quiet, removed
00:25:433 (4) - I don't think this is getting enough emphasis despite being a stronger piano note. Making a distinction from 00:23:008 (1,2,3) as a pattern or incorporating a spacing change would work here, and changing this to two circles could also work if you stacked them or something. - fixed previously
00:26:241 (1,2,3) - 00:51:661 (5,6,1) - This rhythm doesn't indicate the decrease in intensity at all. If I were you i'd just use a 1/1 reverse here, maybe raising the volume of the slider ticks or just completely ignoring the red ticks. - true but there's that tick on the red i've been consistently mapping so ignoring it is really weird, I lowered spacing but that's about as much as i'm willing to nerf this
00:29:069 (4,5,1) - 00:41:998 (5,6,1) - This equal/close to equal spacing doesn't provide too much emphasis to 1, try using your overlap concept for 4 and 5.
00:29:473 - Honestly the consistent spacing in this section doesn't really match the feeling of the song here. The white tick vocals have more emphasis than the spacing currently describes, and this section just feels way too fluid. Lowering spacing of stuff like 00:29:473 (1,2) even a little, something like https://halfslashed.s-ul.eu/ukdcl8tH would improve this. - agreed, done
00:39:978 (2) - This is mapped to a barely audible beat that isn't the piano. I suggest removing this since the intensity dies down, and it'd put more focus on the piano. - changed
00:43:602 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - The intensity did not increase enough to justify such a big spacing increase. Combined with the circle spam, this is adding way too much stress for this section. - keeping circles but lowered spacing, it's now more linear
01:04:366 (3) - 01:07:190 (1) - This may sound weird, but I think you can both set up your overlapping triple ideas in the kiai and add more emphasis to the vocals here by not mapping this. - sounds too weird imo and i think i set it up decently enough as it is
01:05:778 (1) - I suggest using a slower SV here, there's quite a bit of motion here for that wub sound and you can provide some nice contrast with all of the motion in the rest of the section. Cool shape though. - I think the long slider into short slider contrast works pretty well as it is imo and if I slowed it down it would be a bit too slow for my tastes so I won't change this
01:06:837 (1,2,1,2,3) - I dunno about this spacing to be honest, seems like a really stark contrast to 01:04:013 (1,2,3,1,2) - for not that big of an intensity difference. - i agree, I can change the former to be less spaced
01:08:072 (1,2,3) - I think this would reflect the decrease in intensity better if you used spacing like what you have/had for 01:07:190 (1,2) - and the sort.
01:18:131 (3,4) - I don't think the pause in motion is appropriate here. Not to mention, you don't really mix stacks with different timeline gaps throughout the rest of the map from what I've noticed. I suggest some big 1/2 spacing here. - i can agree with this
01:39:660 (1,2,3) - This even spacing doesn't emphasize the snares or the kicks. I'd suggest either stacking 2 and 3 to have motion for the snares, or stacking 1 and 2 to have motion for the kick. - stacked 1/2
01:41:602 (3) - I suggest changing this to a circle, as there isn't anything on the yellow tick and it takes away from the effect of 01:41:955 (1,2,3). - agreed
01:53:072 (3,4,5,6) - These are pretty strong beats, so I'd experiment with using a larger spacing here to try to force the player to snap to each circle. - did something
02:15:131 (2) - Since the beat on this slider end is pretty weak, try replacing this with a circle to add some more impact to 02:15:484 (3,4,5). - changed to buzz actually since there's the vocal stuff
02:49:366 (6,7,8) - These jumps are quite large considering 02:49:190 (5,6) were stacked, so there is a disproportionate amount of emphasis here. Reduce this spacing. - nerfed slightly
02:54:484 (1,1,1) - I hate to break your pattern a bit early, but the vocals come in, so while this worked before when there were no vocals, I'm going to suggest a 1/2 slider here as the return to "normal rhythm". Also can you please do something about the NC spam... - found a way to work this in so gonna do this
03:17:072 (5,6) - I suggest lowering this spacing, since it takes away from the effect of your spacing on 03:17:249 (6,7). - done
03:19:543 (1) - Try a 1/2 slider and a circle here instead. I think the rhythm gap would add a better effect than the current filler rhythm. - fixed previously?
03:50:778 (6,7) - You forgot to emphasize 7. I'd increase the spacing here, since you don't normally use anti jumps to emphasize beats like this. - done
04:47:072 (1) - This would work better if you had some much higher slider velocity. It feels pretty boring that you can just stop and hold this when motion actually means something for the other wubs. I'll leave the experimentation to you as to what is appropriate, but i'm suggesting something along these lines. - increased sv
04:52:366 (1,1,1) - Actually, I think stacking these slider ends would work better to emphasize these sounds. The player has to follow the slider a short distance each time, if you do this. - tried something else

It looks like a lot, but I still think this is your best map.

Good luck!

Nozhomi wrote:

[Timing :]

1. should be offset 310257
2. 05:11:727 - there is also a problem here, but I can't really tell if you have to put the BPM change (77,50) at 05:12:501 - and remove the one at 05:11:727 - OR move your timing point at 05:11:752 - and put an other one at 05:12:501 - ;w;

[Desperation :]

1. Aimod said stuff you already fixed.
2. 01:04:013 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Stack like you did for 01:06:837 (1,2,1,2,3) - ? - actually it should be unstacked
3. 01:08:072 (1,2,3) - Would be nice to use a similar spacing than you other 1/4 like 01:04:543 (1,2,3) - or 01:07:190 (1,2,3) - . - will do
4. 02:01:719 (1,2,3) - Could they fit in the slider 02:02:249 (1) - ? - no but this is fucking ugly so i made it nicer
5. 02:24:837 (1) - / 02:36:131 (1) - I would CTRL+G them to keep a nice flow also do a better transition on rest of your pattern (especially 02:36:837 (1) - ). - the transition in the song is REALLY harsh, that's why i made the flow break so horrifying :3
6. 02:40:190 (3,4) - I told you on discord why it's a big jumpy jump XD - yes, and now it's a small jumpy jump \o/
7. 03:31:543 (7) - Move the end point to 257:119 to make the start and end with same shape/direction. - done
8. 03:52:366 (1) - A bit on lifebar. - made a cooler shape instead!
9. 04:24:837 (2) - blanket aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol - yesh

Probably better to have a clean timing check if possible ><
Call me back after that.
Mukyu~

Timing checku by Bonsai!

23:08 Mir: bonsaiiii!!
23:08 Mir: are you busy? x.x
23:08 Bonsai: yea ;_;
23:08 Bonsai: whatcha need tho
23:08 Mir: quick timing check for the ending slowdown of a map
23:08 Bonsai: I still haven't finished timing that Beethoven-map lol
23:08 Bonsai: gimme
23:08 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1092357 Trivecta - Labyrinth (feat. Miyoki) [Desperation]]
23:08 Mir: oh you're timing it o:
23:09 Mir: 05:00:131 - when you're able to, it's around here
23:12 Bonsai: uintil 05:10:227 (1) - everything seems fine but from there on suddenly everything seems veeeery early
23:12 Bonsai: like 20ms early
23:12 Bonsai: is fine at 05:12:501 (2) - again
23:12 Bonsai: yeah rest is fine
23:12 Mir: okay cool
23:13 Mir: thanks!!
23:14 Bonsai: some tecvhnicalities though: 05:21:148 (1,1) - aren't connecting / smooth
23:14 Mir: ah shoot
23:14 Mir: will fix these too
23:14 Bonsai: and the very last section should be doubled
23:14 Bonsai: and second-to-last doesn't connect too ^^
23:14 Mir: so from 25 to 50?
23:14 Mir: and fix from 41 to 25
23:15 Bonsai: aaaaa nah from 41 to ~55
23:16 Mir: okay
23:19 Mir: thanks bonsai!
23:20 Mir: also can i post this for proof
23:20 Bonsai: you're welcome
23:20 Bonsai: sure ^^
23:20 Mir: hehe thanks!