This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on martes, 24 de enero de 2012 at 01:12:55 p.m.

Artist: Liz Kay
Title: When Love Becomes a Lie (Nightcore Mix)
BPM: 174,15
Filesize: 8219kb
Play Time: 02:26
Difficulties Available:

1. Intense Love (4,89 stars, 349 notes)
2. No Love (1,94 stars, 132 notes)
3. Strong Love (3,86 stars, 179 notes)
4. Weak Love (3,3 stars, 175 notes)

Download: Liz Kay - When Love Becomes a Lie (Nightcore Mix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Mapset:

No Love ~ Me
Weak Love ~ Me
Strong Love ~ Me
Intense Love ~ Me

SB ~ Me
Skin ~ osuplayer111 (some Images by me)
Custom Hitsounds ~ Lolicore Flandre

Special Thanks To ~ lovhin456 and ziin for mod the SB ^^ New SB files

Timing:
BPM: 174.160
Offset: 4,060

Awesome song.*st=A=r*.Though its not looking good :/

Are you interested in me making a guest diff?

i am also intrested
of making a guest if intrested

NORMAL

00:10:989 - distance snap

00:20:348 put 1 on top of 2 and 3
and distnace snap 4

00:252 move (2) slider to 00:21:773

SonicXPS2 wrote:

Awesome song.*st=A=r*.Though its not looking good :/

Are you interested in me making a guest diff?

Thx And Yea i Want A guest Diff Choose one

Im not quite sure what will come up from my mapping but it will be 100% Hard or Insane

SonicXPS2 wrote:

Im not quite sure what will come up from my mapping but it will be 100% Hard or Insane

Ok Do You Want to Do The Hard Diff Thxx

Heres my easy its kinda of hard looking i dont know XD if you want do a little editing
http://www.mediafire.com/?of9q134ptckob2s

STARED

Nice map =D

Lie should be capitalized

Also, find the original artist of the song, and then put the artist-title as

Artist - When Love Becomes a Lie (Nightcore Mix)

The original Artist is Liz Kay.

so the name should be

Liz Kay - When Love Becomes a Lie (Nightcore Mix)

Ok The Name of the Song is Changed
Im Gonna Do A new SB With New Images
Lover's Difficult Done !! ^^

lDofuz wrote:

Ok The Name of the Song is Changed
Im Gonna Do A new SB With New Images
Lover's Difficult Done !! ^^

Thx lDofuz

hello~

[true love]

00:15:084 (2,3,4) - spacing
01:25:364 (2,3) - spacing
01:54:303 (4) - spacing

please use Distance Snap I see another sometime have erro spacing

[love me]

Sometime erro spacing

but good ryhthm

[love hurt]

this is my suggestions this is not hard I feeling is Normal +
pleasse put more note or slider

00:35:238 (spiner) - sorry is not good remove it and put slider

that all

I I SO love MUCH this music is jus aswome STAR !


Note: I can make Hard? If not that´s okay

[General]
remove "nightcore", "music", "love" from tags and "nightcored music" from source, not sure about "anime" usability = =
remove audio lead-in in every difficulty, i think there's plenty of time before 1st note o.o
add epilepsy warning D:
light.png and black.png are 1024x768 while rest of images is 800x600
re-encode your mp3 to 192 kbps as bitrate of 320 kbps is unrankable

[True Love]
i don't think speed change in easy is good idea :(
01:12:962 (1) - unsimmetrical slider
01:23:986 (1,2,3) - placed somewhat unintuitively, try ctrl+< and then ctrl+h on (1) and move it up
01:27:948 (4) -> circle at 01:28:120(x) ?
01:45:690 (2,3) - try switching them
there are lots of offbeat stuff :(

[Love Me]
try to make yo patterns more curvy, some parts of map feels like square :(
01:32:427 - Slow Down warning's apperance is very sharp imo, try to do smth with it

[Love Hurts]
SV 1.30 and DS 0.8 really? is't tend to be hard or what?
try to make yo patterns more curvy :3
00:35:238 (1) - short spinner
00:44:023 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i don't think this stream suits very much D:

map still needs serious work, though visual part looks great :3
keep working
sorry about unexpected mod and bad english

Note: I can make Hard? If not that´s okay [/quote]
Sure Just Tell Me

hello~

Sure Just Tell Me

Finished and hitsound finished too

ta dah~

Download: Liz Kay - When Love Becomes a lie (Nightcore Mix) ([Te][Amo]) [Pereira006's Broke Heart].osu

I hope you like

hola
Se que me pediste que revise el timing hace siglos, pero tuve unos cuantos inconvenientes para entrar al osu..
Bueno igual aca estoy y espero ser de ayuda, anque no soy muy buena con timing, quizas quieras pedir el consejo de algún experto mas adelante.

El BPM me parece que está bien. Busqué un offset desde 0, independientemente del que tiene el mapa y el resultado fue: 4,058, que resulta ser solo -2 del tuyo. Después que los probé ambos, creo que 4,060 es mejor.

No me des kds por este post. ^^'
Suerte con tu mapa~

Lizbeth wrote:

hola
Se que me pediste que revise el timing hace siglos, pero tuve unos cuantos inconvenientes para entrar al osu..
Bueno igual aca estoy y espero ser de ayuda, anque no soy muy buena con timing, quizas quieras pedir el consejo de algún experto mas adelante.

El BPM me parece que está bien. Busqué un offset desde 0, independientemente del que tiene el mapa y el resultado fue: 4,058, que resulta ser solo -2 del tuyo. Después que los probé ambos, creo que 4,060 es mejor.

No me des kds por este post. ^^'
Suerte con tu mapa~

Gracias Lizbeth Por la Estrellita y Por Tu Opinion

Sorry im taking so long but i have mappers block.
But today i did some,added hitsounds..will be finishing it in 1-2 days

edit: made hitcircles ;3


*kudostar* Map is wooooah ;3

SonicXPS2 wrote:

Sorry im taking so long but i have mappers block.
But today i did some,added hitsounds..will be finishing it in 1-2 days

edit: made hitcircles ;3


*kudostar* Map is wooooah ;3

Thxx Sonic I >Really Like The Hit Cirlcles ^^

Ok im done with my diff
http://puu.sh/1L5D

Includes

-hitcircle skin
-lighting
-hitsounds
-BG
-and ofc my difficulty ¦3

Awesome map I love it STAR! ^.^

True Love

00:18:873 (3)... add a slider till 00:19:562 (It's confusing for beginners)
00:28:175 ... remove new combo
00:29:209 ... ^
00:29:553 ... end slider
00:30:242 ... start slider http://puu.sh/1M67 make it like this...
00:42:989 ... remove slider make it like this http://puu.sh/1M6c
00:43:678 ... add break
01:54:992 ... add 3 circles... the last one should have the hitsound "finish" http://puu.sh/1M6w

Love Me

01:54:906 ... sounds better http://puu.sh/1M6H

SonicXPS2's Love

Use 1/4 Beat Snap Divisor
Circle Size 4 or 3
Overall Diff. 3-5

And now... map it again .__. ... i won't mod it... there are too many mistakes ... and it doesn't follow the rythm

Or make a "Collab" like the creator said :s

... i will recheck it and i will mod the SB after you finished it :s Good luck ~

Thx Bouncebabe

Thx for the star ^^ ColdChester

English
i've got a suggestion in SonicXPS2's diff: the offset and timing in this diff is off: the timing is 174,160 and SonicXPS2's diff has 174,600; the offset is 4,060 and SonicXPS2's diff has 4, this has to be fixed. You should set the beat snap divisor from 1/8 to 1/4 then resnap (timing setup panel = f6; snap objects to the new timing) and then readjust all beat to its real timing, so it sounds better.

BTW i had free time and i wanted to map something, so i made an insane diff for this song http://puu.sh/22Sc
no problem if you dont put it i just want to hear ur opinion

And other thing, you should ask in modding queues for help, so it gets better and then be ranked

Español
tengo una sugerencia para la dificultad de SonicXPS2: el timing y el offset en esta dificultad esta mal: el timing es de 174,160 y la diff de SonicXPS2 tiene 174,600; el offset es de 4,060 y la diff de SonicXPS2 tiene 4, esto tiene que ser arreglado. Deberias poner el beat snap divisor de 1/8 a 1/4, despues usa resnap y ajusta las notas para que combinen con el sonido, y asi suena mejor.

Por cierto, tuve tiempo libre y quise hacer un beatmap, asi que hice una dificultad para tu cancion (Link arriba xD)
no hay problema si no lo pones, solo quiero saber tu opinion acerca del mapa

Y otra cosa, deberias pedir ayuda para los mods de tus maps en los modding queues, para que mejoren y los puedan rankear

Aca el link de las modding queues: viewforum.php?f=60

Eso era todo, saludos
From Colombia with love

1 cosa mas: IMPORTANTE!!!

al parecer pusiste los datos del storyboard en el .osb de la carpeta, lo que hace que el evento se vea en todas las dificultades, asegurate de poner los datos de storyboard en el .osu de la diff SonicXPS2's Broken Heart, luego borrar el archivo .osb y hacer un full submit

K o g u r e wrote:

1 cosa mas: IMPORTANTE!!!

al parecer pusiste los datos del storyboard en el .osb de la carpeta, lo que hace que el evento se vea en todas las dificultades, asegurate de poner los datos de storyboard en el .osu de la diff SonicXPS2's Broken Heart, luego borrar el archivo .osb y hacer un full submit

Gracias ^^

General

- Add more hitsounds,more whistles and claps

[True Love]

00:36:960 (1) - New combo?
00:54:186 (1) - ^
00:57:803 (1) - Add finish

[Love Me]

01:49:480 (1) - Remove new combo
01:50:169 (7) - New combo

[SonicXPS2's Love]

Fine

Star~

i Like This Map Starrr =D

Hi~

General
Bitrate of song is too high, you need 128-192 kbps
BG "pereira" is 804x600, resize it to 800x600

True Love
01:08:828 - at that moment BG is included, do it more smoother
Love Me
01:52:236 - where is a logical end? completed to there 01:55:681 -
SonicXPS2's Love
I would have paid attention on a spacing, it's confusing

Nice map, starr

Hola :B

[General]
Recomendaría que para todas las dificultades pongas Slider Tick Rate en 2.

[True Love]
01:03:315 : El kiai debe terminar aquí ya que en el break es innecesario.
01:11:670 : Linea verde innecesaria, elimínala.
01:21:976 : ^

[Love Me]
01:08:828 : El kiai debe terminar aquí.

[SonicXPS2's Love]
Nice.

[Broken Heart]
Nice

Buena suerte ~

hi
i offer my help this are just suggestions, you mustn't do all what i say xD but if it helped, please give kudosu ~

[General]
this mp3 is 320 kbits, but that has already mentioned
set a preview point
only [True Love] has display epilepsy warning, but with a flashing storyboard it has to be at every diff
identic kiai times were nicer

[True Love]
00:24:558 (1,2,3) spacing (you used 1,4x, but the whole map is spacing 1,0x)
01:39:144 (5,1,2) spacing again (now you used 0,6x, must be 1,0x)
that's all i have to say to this diff


[Love Me]
00:09:399 (1) spacing
isn't it finished?

[SonicXPS2's Love]
Offset is 4, but at the other diffs its 4.060?
many notes aren't snapped O.o that isn't rankable
- klick on timing and resnap all notes
spacing mistakes, but i call them "jumps" xDD it must be more difficult sometimes
01:30:495 (4,5) sounds a bit strange to me...
01:39:137 (2,3) bad spacing
02:06:697 - rhythm is going to be a bit too fast
02:21:942 (1) delete new combo

[Broken Heart]
spacing again, but it's an insane... but is still better to revise it
01:19:507 (3) reverse at a blue tick, ending at 01:20:024, and then use soft slidertick without sound
01:28:120 - delete break
finish this diff x33
i really like this storyboard with this thunder x33

but still a good map, i love this song :33
good luck and star ~~

Revived!!

Good luck with your beatmap [Te][Amo] (fff I'm starting to hate this word limit ;_;)

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Revived!!

Good luck with your beatmap [Te][Amo] (fff I'm starting to hate this word limit ;_;)

Hahahaha Thx Beuchi ^^

General
this mp3 is 320 kbps,must be 128-192. Recompress please.
set a preview point for all diffs in same place.
only True Love has display epilepsy warning, but with a flashing storyboard it has to be at every diff
You need in approachcircle.png file.
BG "pereira" is 804x600, resize it to 800x600. you have pereira's bg, but you havn't pereira's diff.... so... remove this image?
Some of your pictures are not used. remove unused pictures. As example : soft.jpg, slow.png etc.
stack leniency 2 is unrankable, 4 at least please.
Source is no "Nightcored Music". This line must be empty for all diffs in this song.
Your tags must be similar for all diffs and they must be : "electro BounceBabe sonicxps2". Remove other words from the tags. Leave only this.
And I guess title must be "When Love Becomes a Lie (Nightcore Mix)" (L must be capitalized). Read this topic for correct fixing : viewtopic.php?f=56&t=24443&start=0
set slider tickrate 1 in Broken Heart
^ make full submit after all this fixes!

Also you still havent changed my difficulty to "LoliFlan's Love" since i changed my name =.='

Mod

General
• You need to set a Preview Point. (For first 2 diffs)

[True Love]
00:25:591 (3) - Down 2 or 3 grid?
00:36:616 (6) - New Combo
00:36:960 (2) - Remove Combo

[Love Me]
• AR -1
• OD +1
00:35:410 (2) - Spacing...


[Other two]
Coolies

Modding this song because of ur request

True Love:
00:28:348(3) - End the slider till 00:29:037 but make sure it's a repeat slider that starts at 00:28:692 from there fix the spacing

Love Me:
00:48:329(6) - 1 grid left
00:56:597(5) - 1 grid up

LoliFlan's Love:
No Problems here

Broken Heart:
00:32:826(7) - NC
00:33:860(1) - Remove NC if u follow the last suggestion
00:35:410(5) - NC

This is the best i can do. GL

little IRC mod

- new mp3 (http://puu.sh/6Xjo) 192 kb/s now
- removed useless words in tags
- Set preview point
- Suggested to resnap kiai sections and make them same in all diffs

Good luck!

Louis Cyphre wrote:

little IRC mod

- new mp3 (http://puu.sh/6Xjo) 192 kb/s now
- removed useless words in tags
- Set preview point
- Suggested to resnap kiai sections and make them same in all diffs

Good luck!

Thx Louis Cyphre

Nice Map XD
I like Nightcore song<3

but
Broken Heart
OD9→8
AR8→9

MileiyHrmirlt wrote:

Nice Map XD
I like Nightcore song<3

but
Broken Heart
OD9→8
AR8→9

Thx for the Star & I'll just take One Sugestion

Hi there o/

Everything I say is to be treated as a suggestion. Feel free to ignore this post if you so see fit.

[General]
Timing feels off somehow though I have no idea what it is or how to fix it. Try consulting someone with timing experience to check?

Breaks in all diffs are different, and normal doesn't even have breaks. Consider making atleast your own diffs consistent. I suggest 01:08:865 - 01:11:623. I know the break is a bit short, but it's what makes most sense to me. Either that or a part of the slow section.

The hitsounds feels a bit bland to me It's like it's not really giving me that feeling of hitting the notes together with the music. Try using stronger-sounding hitsounds?

the tag "BounceBabe" is in [LoliFlan's Love], which I have no idea why is there? You could also add LoliFlan to the tags actually.

[True Love]
00:24:742 (1) - Finish on beginning
00:27:500 (4) - Newcombo?
00:29:568 (6) - New combo?
00:29:568 (6,7,8) - Do you need finish on all of them? I suggest removing on (6,7)
00:32:670 (4) - New combo, then remove new combo at 00:34:394 (1) and add at 00:35:428 (4).
If you like this kind of new-combo pattern, consider doing it for the rest of the diff as I'm lazy to point them out again xD It's following the vocals.
00:34:394 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern might be confusing and hard to read in an easy, since it's overlapping.
00:35:428 (1) - Finish
00:46:804 (1) - Finish on beginning
01:08:865 (1) - Center this?
I guess this diff in general needs more finishes :p
01:48:162 (3,4,5) - Confusing again I think. You can move it like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168437

[Love Me]
Yeah, you could try following vocals with the newcombo here too.
00:29:913 (6) - Move this upwards so it looks like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168439 Then move 00:30:258 (1) - here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168444 and finally move 00:30:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - so 00:31:981 (4) - is directly above 00:33:705 (1). http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168445
00:56:628 (5,6) - Move up 1 grid?
00:46:631 (1) to 01:05:246 (6) <-- I love the finishes <3 Try using them in the other diffs?
01:09:210 - Add a break here
01:13:002 - 01:20:068 <--- try using the defaul soft-hitwhistle here and see if you can come up with something. It feels a bit empty.
01:20:585 - Add a spinner here, ending at 01:22:654. You need to remove that slider. Add a note on the current endpoint.
02:05:570 (5,6) - Down 1 grid
02:17:635 - 02:28:838 <-- where are the hitsounds D:
02:25:219 (7,1) - This is weird. Try this pattern: http://puu.sh/7oYt

[LoliFlan's Love]
00:05:438 - 00:05:783 - <-- unused timing sections? Delete them
This diff has some weird spacing and sliderslowdowns that you should consider fixing.
For example:
00:27:327 (1,2) -
00:28:362 (3,1) -
00:32:670 (1,2) - This can be fixed by reversing the 2nd slider
00:34:566 (5,1) - And this slider
00:38:358 (1,2,3) -
I feel they kill the flow.

00:25:432 (3,4,5) - All 1/2, but different spacing that doesn't feel right.
00:26:466 (2,3,1) - Spread out the blue sliders so the yellow one fits perfectly in between.
00:46:631 - Aww, kiai time and the whole section feels slow :<
01:02:316 (5) - Remove this
01:06:797 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - You suddenly switch what you're following here. I think it makes more sense to change at 01:06:107
01:09:037 - Break
01:25:928 (1) - This feels really unnatural.Either begin it on the blue tick at 01:26:014 - or just have it on the white tick.
01:30:754 (5) - End this slider at 01:30:927 -
01:39:200 (2,3) - spacing :<
01:55:746 - More natural to have kiai begin here imo.
02:04:881 (6,7,8) - Spacing again.
02:25:908 (1) - Extend spinner to 02:28:838
Try using some more finishes too.

[Broken Heart]
OD -1
AR -1? <-- This is fine either way, but for me AR 8 felt much better.

00:23:363 - 00:29:396 <-- You should add hitsounds in this part too.
00:35:773 (9) - Finish
01:22:654 (1,2,3) - This is kinda covered by the "Clear" from the spinner. Consider moving?
01:26:101 (7,1) - Swap new combos

Well, the spacing is a bit inconsistent here too, but it is an insane, so I'm not pointing them out. Some of them did feel a bit weird though, mainly those slower ones in the kiai sections. Try some more finishes here too I think.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, all in all the mapset is good. I'd like to hear some louder hitsounding though, as I said
Good luck~~

CXu wrote:

Hi there o/

Everything I say is to be treated as a suggestion. Feel free to ignore this post if you so see fit.

[General]
Timing feels off somehow though I have no idea what it is or how to fix it. Try consulting someone with timing experience to check?

Breaks in all diffs are different, and normal doesn't even have breaks. Consider making atleast your own diffs consistent. I suggest 01:08:865 - 01:11:623. I know the break is a bit short, but it's what makes most sense to me. Either that or a part of the slow section.

The hitsounds feels a bit bland to me It's like it's not really giving me that feeling of hitting the notes together with the music. Try using stronger-sounding hitsounds?

the tag "BounceBabe" is in [LoliFlan's Love], which I have no idea why is there? You could also add LoliFlan to the tags actually.

[True Love]
00:24:742 (1) - Finish on beginning
00:27:500 (4) - Newcombo?
00:29:568 (6) - New combo?
00:29:568 (6,7,8) - Do you need finish on all of them? I suggest removing on (6,7)
00:32:670 (4) - New combo, then remove new combo at 00:34:394 (1) and add at 00:35:428 (4).
If you like this kind of new-combo pattern, consider doing it for the rest of the diff as I'm lazy to point them out again xD It's following the vocals.
00:34:394 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern might be confusing and hard to read in an easy, since it's overlapping.
00:35:428 (1) - Finish
00:46:804 (1) - Finish on beginning
01:08:865 (1) - Center this?
I guess this diff in general needs more finishes :p
01:48:162 (3,4,5) - Confusing again I think. You can move it like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168437

[Love Me]
Yeah, you could try following vocals with the newcombo here too.
00:29:913 (6) - Move this upwards so it looks like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168439 Then move 00:30:258 (1) - here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168444 and finally move 00:30:602 (2,3,4,5,6) - so 00:31:981 (4) - is directly above 00:33:705 (1). http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/168445
00:56:628 (5,6) - Move up 1 grid?
00:46:631 (1) to 01:05:246 (6) <-- I love the finishes <3 Try using them in the other diffs?
01:09:210 - Add a break here
01:13:002 - 01:20:068 <--- try using the defaul soft-hitwhistle here and see if you can come up with something. It feels a bit empty.
01:20:585 - Add a spinner here, ending at 01:22:654. You need to remove that slider. Add a note on the current endpoint.
02:05:570 (5,6) - Down 1 grid
02:17:635 - 02:28:838 <-- where are the hitsounds D:
02:25:219 (7,1) - This is weird. Try this pattern: http://puu.sh/7oYt

[LoliFlan's Love]
00:05:438 - 00:05:783 - <-- unused timing sections? Delete them
This diff has some weird spacing and sliderslowdowns that you should consider fixing.
For example:
00:27:327 (1,2) -
00:28:362 (3,1) -
00:32:670 (1,2) - This can be fixed by reversing the 2nd slider
00:34:566 (5,1) - And this slider
00:38:358 (1,2,3) -
I feel they kill the flow.

00:25:432 (3,4,5) - All 1/2, but different spacing that doesn't feel right.
00:26:466 (2,3,1) - Spread out the blue sliders so the yellow one fits perfectly in between.
00:46:631 - Aww, kiai time and the whole section feels slow :<
01:02:316 (5) - Remove this
01:06:797 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - You suddenly switch what you're following here. I think it makes more sense to change at 01:06:107
01:09:037 - Break
01:25:928 (1) - This feels really unnatural.Either begin it on the blue tick at 01:26:014 - or just have it on the white tick.
01:30:754 (5) - End this slider at 01:30:927 -
01:39:200 (2,3) - spacing :<
01:55:746 - More natural to have kiai begin here imo.
02:04:881 (6,7,8) - Spacing again.
02:25:908 (1) - Extend spinner to 02:28:838
Try using some more finishes too.

[Broken Heart]
OD -1
AR -1? <-- This is fine either way, but for me AR 8 felt much better.

00:23:363 - 00:29:396 <-- You should add hitsounds in this part too.
00:35:773 (9) - Finish
01:22:654 (1,2,3) - This is kinda covered by the "Clear" from the spinner. Consider moving?
01:26:101 (7,1) - Swap new combos

Well, the spacing is a bit inconsistent here too, but it is an insane, so I'm not pointing them out. Some of them did feel a bit weird though, mainly those slower ones in the kiai sections. Try some more finishes here too I think.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, all in all the mapset is good. I'd like to hear some louder hitsounding though, as I said
Good luck~~

Thx for your Help

Use this skin please. Your spinner is unrankable.

Also you should add SliderBorder=255,255,255 under [colours] in each difficulty because you are skinning the hitcircle.