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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 1:23:46 AM

Artist: Cardboard Box
Title: The Limit Does Not Exist
Tags: tristan97 jinjin chiptune 8bit tachyon epsilon stepmania itg in the groove tldne
BPM: 260
Filesize: 3287kb
Play Time: 01:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Another - 7Key (5.04 stars, 1693 notes)
  2. Easy - 7Key (1.19 stars, 201 notes)
  3. Extra - 7Key (6.29 stars, 2399 notes)
  4. Hard - 7Key (2.8 stars, 897 notes)
  5. Infinity - 7Key (7.45 stars, 2835 notes)
  6. Normal - 7Key (1.72 stars, 481 notes)
  7. Tristan97's Insane - 7Key (4.02 stars, 1080 notes)


Download: Cardboard Box - The Limit Does Not Exist
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Jinjin's Extreme Mania Series #2 (The Limit Does Not Exist) - Test the limits of your speed! (jk it's much easier now)
Status: REBUBBLED by LordRaika! REQUALIFIED by Feerum! Now RANKED!
Big thanks to Yuko- for giving me a thorough feedback on the Infinity diff rework.
RIP 8 stars.. but it's all for the better :D
(Download the old infinity diff here!)

Check out the other Extreme Mania Series!
#1 - MANIERA

I'm going to take a break from ranking high sr maps after this (except ones that have already been finished like Freedom Dive GD for KK's mapset). I've had some feedback and it's probably time for me to move on and try to rank a diverse range of good maps. haha jk doppelganger here I come

260 bpm fun
BG made by wafles and mp3 from Fullerene

Difficulties:
Easy (OD 7.0 / HP 7.2) - For players looking to start playing 7K. The ending might be a challenge at first, but once you master the ending you'll feel good about yourself!
Normal (OD 7.2 / HP 7.4) - For novice players. Contains little to no challenging patterns with basic LN patterns
Hard (OD 7.4 / HP 7.6) - For advanced players. More diverse patterns and introducing 1/2 minijacks
Tristan97's Insane (OD 7.6 / HP 7.8) - Introduces full length 1/4 broken streams with some challenging short LNs and Long LN sections. This will be pretty challenging!
Another (OD 7.8 / HP 8.0) - More advanced 1/4 streams with the introduction of 1/6 arpeggios! Players will need a lot of focus and control from this difficulty and above
Extra (OD 8.0 / HP 8.4) - Contains very high level layering of streams, chords, and long notes. Only for the top mania players
Infinity (∞) (OD 8.2 / HP 8.5) - Was the Extra difficulty not hard enough? This difficulty will challenge even the most skilled mania players in the world. Contains extreme streams, chordstreams, difficult long note + stream combinations, and more! Good Luck!

NPS Reference
Easy
Avg NPS: 1.78
Max NPS: 8
Normal
Avg NPS: 4.26
Max NPS: 12
Hard
Avg NPS: 7.94
Max NPS: 17
Tristan97's Insane
Avg NPS: 9.56
Max NPS: 22
Another
Avg NPS: 14.98
Max NPS: 28
Extra
Avg NPS: 21.23
Max NPS: 37
Infinity (∞)
Avg NPS: 25.09
Max NPS: 48
posted
Yeah Buddy

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: The Limit Does Not Exist.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 7399
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 3
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
SpecialStyle: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 2.6

[Metadata]
Title:The Limit Does Not Exist
TitleUnicode:The Limit Does Not Exist
Artist:Cardboard Box
ArtistUnicode:Cardboard Box
Creator:iJinjin
Version:Tristan97's Hard+
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:831952
BeatmapSetID:379758

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:8
CircleSize:7
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

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329,192,112515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,112572,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,112630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,112630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,112630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,112630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,112861,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,112976,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,112976,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,112976,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,112976,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,113207,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,113322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,113322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,113322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,113322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,113553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,113553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,113553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,113553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,113553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
posted
wow
posted
Will update after I fix all the snap issues and polish Tristan's diff :p
posted
wow the new maniera o_O 8-)
good luck for the rank iJinjin <3
posted

joyiteru wrote:

wow the new maniera o_O 8-)
good luck for the rank iJinjin <3
thanks =w=
also thanks to tristan and feerum for stars <3
posted
your last 2 diffnames aren't really speaking to me, if you don't know that ε-δ definition of limit
considering the average age of an osu player to be around 14 and this somewhat advanced mathematical concepts i don't think many are going to understand your diffname and intention behind that unless they had calculus

yea very unlikely at 14 lol (i think there was a public survey and the avg age turned out to be around that which is why we have these strict nsfw rules anyways)

so tldr the above: They do make sense, but:
Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player.
right now your diffnaming makes a lot of sense (smartass actually) but only if you are aware what epsilon-delta is in the first place and so it might not be very clear to everyone who didn't have calculus?_?

does that make sense
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[Normal]
np
[Hard]
01:52:976 - 01:53:322 - add a note at centre?
[Insane]
np
[Another]
np
[ε-δ]
np
[Ijinjin]
...take my star
posted
IRC modding on Infinity
18:39 iJinjin: feel free to do any diffs :v
18:39 -Kamikaze-: ok hi
18:39 -Kamikaze-: I'll do infinity but I wanna take a look at it first
18:39 iJinjin: herro
18:40 iJinjin: brb bathroom
18:41 -Kamikaze-: btw I hate you for haelequin bursts
18:41 -Kamikaze-: fuck you
18:42 iJinjin: back
18:42 iJinjin: <
18:42 -Kamikaze-: ok this is gay
18:42 iJinjin: wait wat haelequin bursts
18:42 iJinjin: :v
18:42 -Kamikaze-: the end ones
18:42 -Kamikaze-: end of chordstream and later
18:42 -Kamikaze-: those are all gay
18:43 -Kamikaze-: and you are gay
18:43 -Kamikaze-: gaaaaaaaay
18:43 -Kamikaze-: All timing sections have a volume below 5%.
18:43 iJinjin: thanks ' w'
18:43 -Kamikaze-: Audio bitrate is lower than 128kbps. Consider finding a better quality source.
18:43 -Kamikaze-: smhtbh
18:43 iJinjin: ;_;
18:43 -Kamikaze-: ok first section
18:43 -Kamikaze-: why aren't you accenting bass properly
18:44 iJinjin: mmmm
18:44 -Kamikaze-: like 00:01:861 - this should be more notes than 00:02:091 (2091|4,2091|5) -
18:45 iJinjin: i kinda thought of it as like
18:45 -Kamikaze-: ok I sorta get it now but still
18:45 -Kamikaze-: the clap thingy is way quieter/less noticeable
18:45 iJinjin: one note for bass, one note for that hihat sound or whatever it is, and one for the tune
18:45 iJinjin: yeah
18:45 -Kamikaze-: would like bass being accented more because it's the most prominent sound
18:46 -Kamikaze-: or at least second after the tune
18:46 -Kamikaze-: but tune is quite weak
18:46 iJinjin: ill consider it :p
18:46 iJinjin: probably gonna add one more note at
18:46 iJinjin: 00:01:861 - and places similar to these parts
18:47 -Kamikaze-: that's what I wanted to suggest tbh
18:47 iJinjin: one
18:47 iJinjin: done
18:47 -Kamikaze-: 00:06:245 (6245|2,6245|6,6245|0) - why triple
18:47 iJinjin: o baby a triple!!
18:47 iJinjin: i forgot to delete one note from there
18:48 -Kamikaze-: o
18:48 iJinjin: thanks for pointing that out
18:48 -Kamikaze-: go do it
18:48 iJinjin: 'w'
18:48 -Kamikaze-: yay
18:48 -Kamikaze-: ' w'
18:48 iJinjin: yup
18:48 -Kamikaze-: 00:07:399 (7399|0,7438|1,7476|2) - ok you may already know this but wrong snap fam
18:48 -Kamikaze-: there's like 5 or more sounds there
18:48 -Kamikaze-: also red tick does sound like it has a separate sound
18:48 iJinjin: i talked to zenny and fullerene about this, yeah
18:49 iJinjin: the snap is 1/12 with 5 notes, and then a note following shortly after (which goes on the red tick)
18:49 iJinjin: but when i testplayed it, it felt too clumped
18:49 -Kamikaze-: makes sense
18:49 iJinjin: so i decided to map it to 1/6 for emphasis on the roll instead
18:49 -Kamikaze-: would adding a note on red tick be a problem?
18:50 -Kamikaze-: not sure how that would play tho
18:50 iJinjin: tried that too
18:50 -Kamikaze-: wait no I have another idea
18:50 -Kamikaze-: or rather thing to point out
18:50 iJinjin: wew
18:50 -Kamikaze-: you map those rolls in groups of three per one repetition
18:51 -Kamikaze-: example 00:07:399 (7399|0,7438|1,7476|2,7745|0,7784|1,7822|2,8091|0,8130|1,8168|2) -
18:51 iJinjin: right
18:51 -Kamikaze-: but from what I hear, first roll is lower pitch than other two
18:51 -Kamikaze-: so I thought you might move two others 1 right or left
18:51 -Kamikaze-: depends where they are
18:51 iJinjin: all rolls are same pitch, it's just the note on the red tick (that i chose not to map) that's different
18:52 iJinjin: lol
18:52 iJinjin: but yeah
18:52 -Kamikaze-: oh maybe
18:52 iJinjin: it would be nice to emphasize that instead on the rolls
18:52 iJinjin: i'll think about it
18:53 -Kamikaze-: 00:07:399 (7399|0,7438|1,7476|2,7745|0,7784|1,7822|2,8091|0,8130|1,8168|2) - quite an awkward pause there between those streams and chords
18:53 -Kamikaze-: oops
18:53 -Kamikaze-: my c key is broken
18:53 -Kamikaze-: aaa
18:53 -Kamikaze-: 00:12:188 -
18:53 -Kamikaze-: considering that you map 1/4 just before chords, you should map it also after
18:55 iJinjin: to be honest i wanted to emphasize the bass on that part
18:55 iJinjin: the pause is barely noticeable on 260 bpm too ;_;
18:55 iJinjin: i'll take your consideration tho
18:55 -Kamikaze-: yes I know, but that still sounds awkward
18:55 iJinjin: prob tomorrow
18:55 -Kamikaze-: oki
18:55 -Kamikaze-: 00:46:803 - PSI-m i s s i n g
18:55 iJinjin: atm i prob won't be making too many edits since i wanna testplay things that i fix
18:55 -Kamikaze-: okay
18:55 iJinjin: but my roommate is asleep kek
18:56 iJinjin: o whoa
18:56 iJinjin: didn't notice that
18:56 iJinjin: lmaoooo
18:56 iJinjin: gg
18:56 -Kamikaze-: kek
18:56 -Kamikaze-: #kami4qat
18:57 -Kamikaze-: 00:48:015 (48015|5,48015|4,48072|1,48072|2,48130|4,48130|5,48188|1,48188|2,48245|4,48245|6,48303|0,48303|2,48361|6,48361|4,48418|0,48418|2) - considering how tune plays I think that minijacking those would be way better than trills
18:57 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/lxdXi/267ce2bb6b.png
18:57 iJinjin: too fast :<
18:58 -Kamikaze-: wow do you seriously care about players
18:58 -Kamikaze-: pls it's all about pp
18:58 iJinjin: i care about players pls :v
18:58 -Kamikaze-: also that short of a section shouldn't be too hard
18:59 -Kamikaze-: it's not even half a second lol
18:59 iJinjin: okay :p
18:59 iJinjin: changed to minijacks
18:59 -Kamikaze-: yay
18:59 -Kamikaze-: tbh that will just be a short vibro burst so it's all about control
19:00 iJinjin: yeah i guess so
19:01 -Kamikaze-: 01:17:553 - tune here is quite weak so I suggest mapping one noters, add LN for background thing and start adding notes from around 01:18:938 - where bass kicks in
19:01 iJinjin: good idea
19:02 -Kamikaze-: 01:29:438 (89438|1,89553|1) - wow gross
19:02 -Kamikaze-: 01:31:284 (91284|0,91399|0) - wow even more gross
19:02 -Kamikaze-: 01:33:188 (93188|0,93303|0) - smh
19:02 iJinjin: yeah those parts are kinda iffy
19:03 iJinjin: i remapped those parts like 3 times at least
19:03 iJinjin: for now that's the best i can do
19:03 iJinjin: but i'll try finding better flowing patterns
19:03 -Kamikaze-: yeah I imagine it's very hard to find a perfect pattern
19:03 -Kamikaze-: 01:49:861 - fml those LNs made me lose my ss - _ -
19:04 -Kamikaze-: 01:52:630 - 6 01:52:861 (112861|1,112861|5,112861|0,112861|6,112976|5,112976|6,112976|0,112976|1,113207|6,113207|5,113207|0,113207|1,113322|5,113322|0,113322|6,113322|1) - 4 01:53:553 (113553|6,113553|0,113553|4,113553|1,113553|5) - 5
19:04 -Kamikaze-: pls
19:05 iJinjin: if you're hitting them like you hit normal jumptrills the accuracy stays virtually the same due to really high bpm
19:05 -Kamikaze-: would agree when first would be 4
19:05 iJinjin: the short lns there are just visualizations of
19:05 iJinjin: the
19:05 iJinjin: uh
19:05 iJinjin: chiptune notes
19:05 -Kamikaze-: it's a prank bro
19:05 iJinjin: o
19:05 iJinjin: wew
19:06 iJinjin: wait so what were you suggesting at the end
19:06 iJinjin: the amount of notes in the chord?
19:06 -Kamikaze-: yeah
19:06 -Kamikaze-: sounds are like
19:06 iJinjin: or column placement
19:06 -Kamikaze-: same
19:06 -Kamikaze-: maybe last is a bit stronger
19:06 -Kamikaze-: o wait first is 5 not 6
19:06 iJinjin: now that i hear it
19:06 iJinjin: i should emphasize
19:06 -Kamikaze-: sry can't count
19:06 iJinjin: yeah first is
19:07 iJinjin: jj
19:07 -Kamikaze-: but still it's the exact same sound as rest of 4's
19:07 -Kamikaze-: unless the scratch note sound is diffrent
19:08 -Kamikaze-: I forgot what the sound is called but it's like always on scratch in bms
19:08 iJinjin: but i want to be like zenny and make the same chords have different amount of notes ;_;
19:08 iJinjin: jk
19:08 -Kamikaze-: overchorded
19:08 -Kamikaze-: unrankable
19:08 -Kamikaze-: nuked
19:08 iJinjin: or
19:08 iJinjin: i can
19:08 iJinjin: add a note to
19:08 iJinjin: 01:52:976 and 01:53:322
19:08 iJinjin: since they seem to be more accented
19:08 iJinjin: than the same chord 2 ticks ago
19:09 -Kamikaze-: ye the scratch note sound
19:09 iJinjin: ooo that's the scratchy scratchy
19:09 iJinjin: okie
19:09 -Kamikaze-: fuck what was it called
19:09 iJinjin: actually
19:09 -Kamikaze-: not crash
19:09 -Kamikaze-: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
19:09 iJinjin: maybe it's best to leave it as is
19:09 -Kamikaze-: delete one from first then
19:09 iJinjin: cuz the patterns get pretty awkwards
19:09 -Kamikaze-: consistency fam
19:10 iJinjin: okie
19:10 iJinjin: deleted
19:10 -Kamikaze-: wheee
19:10 iJinjin: yay we're done
19:10 iJinjin: im actually pretty tired now
19:10 -Kamikaze-: fastmodding
19:10 iJinjin: jeajajaieaiejuajuae
19:10 -Kamikaze-: hehehehe
19:10 iJinjin: savelog and i gib u your kids
19:10 iJinjin: kds
19:10 -Kamikaze-: oki 'w '
posted

Okoratu wrote:

your last 2 diffnames aren't really speaking to me, if you don't know that ε-δ definition of limit
considering the average age of an osu player to be around 14 and this somewhat advanced mathematical concepts i don't think many are going to understand your diffname and intention behind that unless they had calculus

yea very unlikely at 14 lol (i think there was a public survey and the avg age turned out to be around that which is why we have these strict nsfw rules anyways)

so tldr the above: They do make sense, but:
Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player.
right now your diffnaming makes a lot of sense (smartass actually) but only if you are aware what epsilon-delta is in the first place and so it might not be very clear to everyone who didn't have calculus?_?

does that make sense
yup it does make sense to me, I can simply revert the diff name to 'Extra' but i might keep ε-δ for a while :p (or another solution could be using terms that may be more familiar to a wider audience without having the knowledge of calculus, for example, "unbounded")

NlHIL wrote:

[Normal]
np
[Hard]
01:52:976 - 01:53:322 - add a note at centre? Added for emphasis on the notes being more accented
[Insane]
np
[Another]
np
[ε-δ]
np
[Ijinjin]
...take my star
Thanks for the *really short* mod.. jej and thanks for star 'w'
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hype?!!!
posted

Sern888 wrote:

hype?!!!
hypeee
posted
Good lord we're having some chiptune getting ranked for mania.

Have my double derivative of 3x^2 stars
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pp에 한계 따윈 존재하지 않는다
posted
hi just thought i'd post this thing i noticed while playing owo
[ε-δ]
00:12:938 - add one note here for the bass sound?
01:12:015 - ^
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2nd maniera
posted

Level 51 wrote:

hi just thought i'd post this thing i noticed while playing owo
[ε-δ]
00:12:938 - add one note here for the bass sound?
01:12:015 - ^
still trying to see what pattern fits the best. I think 3 notes is good enough for this part, but we'll see ^^
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you crazy motherfucker

i like it
posted
I hope that this is getting ranked, I don't care how long it will take, I just want to see how much PP it will make. xD
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bublbbbblble plz. 8-)8-)8-)8-)
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