1. Hanjamon's Oni (4,37 stars, 1931 notes)
2. Natural (4,91 stars, 1155 notes)

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Hanjamon's Oni - 100%
Natural - 100%
Thanks to Hanjamon for the beutiful GD~

Old Diff: http://puu.sh/e9QNz/4a0a4b186d.zip

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Lyrics

• Flawless when she was a drone
  Had it all and still she felt alone
  Clueless 'til she pulled the plug
  Shocked her ties and relied on her luck
  Mm - Resting her weary mind
  Pack up her convictions inside
  Darkness is her energy
  Easily forgotten and often misconceived~
  
  Heart nearly stops when she sees his face
  Big brown eyes that that baptize with a gaze
  Weaving words like it's second nature
  Revolution stories take his paper
  Needs her fix or else she can't sleep
  Both their friends concerned it's a disease
  Shares all the sounds that make up his life
  They dance in the dark to secrets in the night~
  
  (However, light~ However light~ However, light~)
  
  ------------------------------------------------------------------
  
  "This feels really right" she said
  He nodded back with a stare straight ahead
  "I know what we have to do
  Etre ensemble, I want you so bad.."
  "We can create anything" she said
  "I'll be your queen you be my king."
  "Show this world what we have to say,
  Hold my hand and let's blow them away."
  
  Here, dance, when you see her there
  It's imagination, rotation of what is
  Romance sparks their intuition
  Sprint a little faster and master it down he made
  Entrance to her ferris wheel
  Boarded with a smile to melt diamonds and have her
  At the first glance when he shared his wish
  Takes his hand to change the world with him.
  
  ------------------------------------------------------------------
  
  Heart nearly stops when she sees his face
  Big brown eyes that that baptize with a gaze
  Weaving words like it's second nature
  Revolution stories take his paper
  Needs her fix or else she can't sleep
  Both their friends concerned it's a disease
  Shares all the sounds that make up his life
  They dance in the dark to secrets in the night~
  
  (However, light~ However light~ However, light~)
  
  ------------------------------------------------------------------
  
  "This--feels really right" she said
  He nodded back with a stare straight ahead
  "I know what we have to do
  Etre ensemble, I want you so bad.."
  "We can create anything" she said
  "I'll be your queen you be my king."
  "Show this world what we have to say,
  Hold my hand and let's blow them away."
  
  Nobody really gets it cause it's not the same
  Talk out the riddles just to stop the rain
  Thinking of the beauty they could make together
  Dreaming of the reacharound hold on for better weather
  Addicted to the lust that consumes her mind
  Disregards the thoughts she's forced to put on override
  At the same time she really can't say
  They've got a job to do with nothing in the way.

SaD_Olution wrote:

o/

Third Nature

2014-10-25 21:07 SaD_Olution: 00:19:775 (2,3) -
2014-10-25 21:07 SaD_Olution: remove 3
2014-10-25 21:07 SaD_Olution: extend 2 to the timing of 3
2014-10-25 21:08 -Tochi: what do u mean?
2014-10-25 21:09 SaD_Olution: your map?
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: yes
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: but
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: ur 3rd line
2014-10-25 21:10 SaD_Olution: slider end has to be on the timing of note 3
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: oh
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: ok
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: thanks
2014-10-25 21:10 SaD_Olution: youz just extend it to the red tic
2014-10-25 21:10 SaD_Olution: after you removed 3
2014-10-25 21:13 -Tochi: ok
2014-10-25 21:14 SaD_Olution: 00:40:175 (7) -
2014-10-25 21:15 SaD_Olution: increase the spacing between 6, 7 and 8 to 1,4
2014-10-25 21:15 SaD_Olution: like this
2014-10-25 21:15 SaD_Olution: http://puu.sh/cqgwv.jpg
2014-10-25 21:17 -Tochi: i'll go with that

no Kudosu~

-Mo- wrote:

Hey, Mod4Mod from my queue.

Got a lot of mods about overlaps, and I apologise in advance >_<

General
- Delete the .osb file in the song's folder, since it seems to be messing with the background when you play.
- The bitrate of the .mp3 file is too high. At max it can only be 192kbps. If you need help compressing this, feel free to ask me.
- Consider using Custom Combo Colours.
- I don't like the default Clap sound for this song. Consider swapping it out for something else.

Third Nature
- 00:08:289 (1,3) - Make these perfectly stack. +
- 00:08:975 (3) - Improve this blanket slightly. (00:09:403) +
- 00:14:289 (2) - Improve this blanket slightly. (00:14:289) +
- 00:17:032 (2,3) - Avoid this sort of overlap. +
- 00:18:918 (10,1) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 00:22:003 (1,2) - I wouldn't recommend a bow slider here since the repeat arrow is being overlapped by the first slider, which makes it difficult to read. +
- 00:29:546 (3,4) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 00:30:232 (5,1) - Same as before about bow sliders. +
- 00:39:832 (5) - New combo? +
- 00:42:575 (9) - Same as above. +
- 00:49:089 (9,1) - Lower 9 just slightly so it doesn't overlap the tail of 1. +
- 00:53:375 (2,4) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 00:54:918 (1) - This is an odd slider. Try to use less slider points, like this: +

^

- 01:02:803 (7,3) - Either stack 3 under the head better, or don't overlap altogether. +
- 01:09:832 (5,7) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 01:14:632 (4,6) - Stack these. +
- 01:29:546 (2,1) - Make these stack. +
- 01:40:689 (4,5,6) - 6 is closer to 4 than 5 is. +
- 01:45:489 (4,5,6,2,6,7) - Stack these, or offset them a bit more. +
- 01:51:832 (5,6,7,8,1) - This is kind of awkward to read then it's going left. Perhaps make it go right/down-right instead? +
- 01:52:518 (1,3) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 01:56:632 (5,6) - Same as above. +
- 01:56:632 (5,7) - Stack these perfectly. +
- 02:12:061 (2) - The whistle on this slider sounds out of place. +
- 02:40:689 (7,9) - Avoid this overlap? I personally don't like it. +
- 02:43:775 (1,3,4,5) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 02:44:632 (1,3,4) - Same as above. 4 is completely obscured. +
- 02:44:632 (1,3) - Stack these. +
- 03:07:089 (2,3) - Avoid this overlap maybe. +
- 03:08:461 (3) - Make this stack with 03:07:089 (2). +
- 03:10:518 (4) - Improve this blanket slightly (03:10:775).
- 03:12:061 (1,3) - Stack these perfectly. +
- 03:13:432 (1) - Just make the volume increase linearly, rather than it going decreasing again. The music doesn't decrease in volume, just in pitch. +
- 03:41:375 (3) - Make this stack with 03:39:832 (2). +
- 03:44:975 (3,6) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 03:58:689 (1,3) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 04:14:118 (7,8) - Stack the tails better. Use Ctrl+G to find the tail's co-ordinates. +
- 04:27:318 (4,6) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 04:44:118 (2) - This blanket can be improved (Flip 3).
- 04:44:461 (3,6,7,8,1) - Avoid this overlap. +
- 04:52:175 (9) - Improve this blanket (Flip 10).
- 04:52:689 (10) - Same as above (04:53:118). +

I like this a lot. I'll drop a star. Best of luck

SaD_Olution wrote:

~edited my post from before~

SaD_Olution wrote:

o/

Third Nature

2014-10-25 21:07 SaD_Olution: 00:19:775 (2,3) -
2014-10-25 21:07 SaD_Olution: remove 3
2014-10-25 21:07 SaD_Olution: extend 2 to the timing of 3
2014-10-25 21:08 -Tochi: what do u mean?
2014-10-25 21:09 SaD_Olution: your map?
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: yes
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: but
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: ur 3rd line
2014-10-25 21:10 SaD_Olution: slider end has to be on the timing of note 3
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: oh
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: ok
2014-10-25 21:10 -Tochi: thanks
2014-10-25 21:10 SaD_Olution: youz just extend it to the red tic
2014-10-25 21:10 SaD_Olution: after you removed 3
2014-10-25 21:13 -Tochi: ok
2014-10-25 21:14 SaD_Olution: 00:40:175 (7) -
2014-10-25 21:15 SaD_Olution: increase the spacing between 6, 7 and 8 to 1,4
2014-10-25 21:15 SaD_Olution: like this
2014-10-25 21:15 SaD_Olution: http://puu.sh/cqgwv.jpg
2014-10-25 21:17 -Tochi: i'll go with that

/Edit

Third Nature

01:01:089 (2) - feels akward to play, i'd shorten the slider by 1 tic or change it to 2 Hitcircles Done!
01:32:461 (2) - confusing spacing, increase the spacing between 1 and 2 Done!
01:55:261 (1) - Slider end has wrong timing. shorten this Slider by 1 tic Done!
01:58:003 (1) - same as above Done!
01:56:632 (5) - either shorten this by one tic or lenghten this 01:56:975 (6) - by 1 tic Done!
02:02:118 (6,7,8) - should have the same rhythm as above. Done!
02:15:661 (6) - shorten this by 1 tic, add note on current sliderend (02:15:918 - ) Done!
02:53:889 (4,5,6) - starting this on the position of 02:53:203 (2) - feels more natural. Done!
03:13:261 (4) - If you add a Note here it should be a Slider, ending on 03:13:432 - . otherwise remove it Done!
03:30:232 - this is a good timing to add a Note for playability Thanks, but not really :/
03:36:746 (9) - remove this, start spinner here. Done!
04:37:775 (3,4) - shorten slider by 1 tic, add note on current sliderend (04:38:032 - ) Done!

Aldwych wrote:

Ogod, so sad it's too long to make multiple diffs. :<
Hope it will be ranked to test the taiko one.

Edit : 1234 notes
Illuminati confirmed

Faan wrote:

M4M :

3rd Nature:
00:00:061 (1,5) - would look a lot better if stacked Fixed!
00:02:632 (9,2) - somewhat overlapped Fixed!
00:04:346 (6,7) - maybe put it further away so it doesn't stack up like that Fixed!
00:08:289 (1,3) - stack head and tail properly Fixed!
00:13:603 (6,2) - severe overlap Fixed!
00:15:661 (3,4) - unneccessary anti-jump Fixed!
00:24:061 (8) - ctrl+g Fixed!
00:24:746 (1,2) - line up properly Fixed!
00:26:632 (4,6) - slightly overlapped Fixed!
00:40:518 (3) - move up slightly so 2 flows into 3 better Fixed!
01:00:403 (1,1,2,3) - placement overlaps with slider Fixed!
01:14:632 (4,6) - either stack or move away Fixed!
01:27:746 (8) - the slider should have the same DS as the previous circle It is o:
02:08:803 (4,5,1) - why is the triple on this have a larger DS than the others? Because the flow/ mouse will go faster, (there is kiai time, lol)
02:31:775 (2,3) - ctrl+g just a suggestion Fixed!
02:44:632 (1,3) - stack Fixed!
03:22:518 (4,5) - can be confused with 03:21:489 (1,2,3) - rhythm-ise since DS Fixed!
04:24:746 (3,4) - can blanket better , overlap

truonant wrote:

Hello M4M~ from my Mod Queue

Overall hitsounds could use some work.
The beginning was messy, but it started to get much better later on in the song


[Third Nature]
00:00:061 (1) – Although your points may be symmetrical, the slider itself is not. Just use one point. http://puu.sh/cJjT5/5dde463da0.jpg Fixed!
00:00:746 (3) – for symmetry copy and flip - 00:00:061 (1) - ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+j, ctrl+g Fixed!
00:00:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – since there are no jumps, at least make your distance consistent between notes Fixed!
00:00:746 (3) – ctrl ctrl?
00:01:946 (7) – jump doesn’t fit - sound in the music is too quiet. Fixed!
00:02:289 (8) – this would be a better jump Fixed!
00:00:746 (3,3,6,7) – The drums are really dominant. Please consider mapping them. Maybe..
00:03:489 (3,6) – slider overlap doesn’t look good Fixed!
00:04:175 (5) – feels better to stack on slider head of 00:04:346 (6) – Fixed! But a better way tho
00:04:861 (7) – blanket on 00:05:375 (8) – Fixed!
00:06:232 (3) – blanket No thanks, i like it as it is now
00:07:175 (2,5) - Delete, feels like overmapping to me Only the first one then.
00:08:118 (8) – move to x72 y148 – looks more neat Fixed!
00:08:289 (1) – blanket Fixed!
00:10:518 (9,10,11) – random drum sounds? – too random, doesn’t fit and it’s too loud I'll keep the drum sounds, but i lowered them.
00:12:146 (4) – delete Fixed!
00:16:346 (6) – move to x108 y200 – more neat I stacked it with (3) instead
00:17:632 (4) – dlete No thanks, i'll keep it as it is.
00:20:632 (7) – nc More like 7 is.
00:21:489 (11) – same as 00:10:518 (9,10,11) I'll keep the drum sounds, but i lowered them.
00:22:518 (2) – unrankable positioning. The repeater is hidden. Also, blanket Fixed!
00:23:375 (6) – nc Fixed!
00:24:061 (8) – blanket Fixed!
00:25:089 (2) – delete and elongate 00:24:746 (1) - Fixed!
00:25:861 (5) – delete [color=#FF4000]I'll keep it as it is[/color]
00:27:146 (7,8) – don’t stack please. Doesn’t suit music and Ruins flow Fixed!
00:27:489 (1) – blanket Fixed!
00:28:175 (3) – overlap looks bad. Move up a bit Fixed!
00:29:203 (2,3) – for sake of neatness, you could stack on 00:28:003 (2,3) – Fixed!
00:30:232 (1) – blanket Fixed!
00:34:346 (6) – nc Fixed!
00:40:518 (3) – blanket Fixed!
00:53:375 (2) – blanket I'll keep as it is.
01:09:832 (5) – blanket Fixed!
01:10:518 (7) – blanket Fixed!
01:14:803 (5) – blanket Fixed!
01:16:003 (9) – Blanket Fixed!
01:30:575 (1) – reposition to stack on 01:29:546 (2) – for neatness Fixed!
01:31:432 (4) – perfect stack Fixed!
01:31:089 (2,3,4,5,6,1) – create a more symmetrical shape Fixed!
01:32:632 (3) – reshape slider so that it stacks head on 01:31:089 (2) – and tail on 01:31:261 (3) – Fixed!
01:31:946 (1) – copy slider from ^ Fixed!
01:37:946 (8) – blanket Fixed!
01:40:861 (5,6) – blanket – make sure slider heads and tails both blanket each other Fixed!
01:41:203 (6) – ctrl + g for better flow Fixed!
01:44:289 (1) – blanket Fixed!
01:44:975 (3) – blanket Fixed!
01:47:546 (2,3,4) – stack on 01:46:861 (7) – for neatness Fixed!
01:48:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – fix these stacks, they just look messy. If you’re not using a hurricane-like pattern, just stack them Fixed!
01:53:032 (2,3) – stack on 01:53:889 (5,7) – for neatness Fixed!
01:57:318 (7) – blanket I'll keep this as it is.
I think you get the idea with blankets… I’ll stop pointing them out Yeah.
02:02:118 (6) – NC Fixed!
02:02:803 (8,1) – avoid overlap – doesn’t look good Fixed!
02:04:861 (5,6,7,8) – ^ Fixed!
02:04:861 (5) – NC Fixed!
Too many things going on, I haven’t been checking NC consistently; go through the rest yourself for NC Ok.
02:08:803 (4,5,1) – reposition so 02:08:889 (5) – stacks on slider head 02:07:946 (2) – Fixed!
02:09:318 (2,3,4,5,6,7) – fix stacks Fixed!
02:21:832 (9) – red point at x436 y296 Fixed!
02:23:203 (2,3,4) – same as 02:08:803 (4,5,1) – Fixed!
02:23:889 (5) – stack on 02:25:003 (3) – Fixed!
02:26:975 (7) – perfect stack on slider tail Fixed!
02:40:518 (1,2,3,4) – better star shape Fixed!
02:43:775 (4) – make this slider look nicer Fixed!
02:46:003 (3) – perfect stack Fixed!
03:04:518 (3) – slider doesn’t fit – start at 03:04:346 – end at 03:04:518 (3) - I'll keep it as it is.
03:05:032 (4) – slider doesn’t fit here – no emphasis on downbeat. Start it at 03:05:203 – I'll keep it as it is.
03:07:946 (1,7) – perfect stack Fixed!
03:43:432 (6) – start at 03:43:603 – Fixed!
03:43:432 – add circle Fixed!
03:43:775 (8) – delete and add circle at 03:43:946 – I'll keep it as it is
03:46:518 (1,2,3,4) – rotate 25 degrees for something like this, looks nicer Fixed!
03:47:718 (1) – and you can have tail stack on head of 03:47:032 (4) – Fixed!
03:54:918 (2,3,4,5,6,7) – fix the stacks Fixed!
04:01:432 (5) – looks messy, stack Fixed!
04:12:232 (10) – perfect stack Fixed!
04:13:261 (4) – perfect stack Fixed!
04:17:032 (1,2,3,4,5) – make perfect star shape Fixed!

Sorry but I’m going to have to stop here. This is getting too long.
Good luck with getting it approved!

Project Railgun wrote:

When creating a storyboard, remember to check the "Enable Widescreen Support" option under the design tab in Song Setup.

1. 00:07:089 (1) - NC isn't needed, remove it for constant combos.
   ^ Also, I'd suggest not to stack for better flow and jump, can place like this (possible arrange the whole set including 00:07:432 (3,4,5) - to your desired places):
   
   Image

   
2. 00:09:832 (1) - Maybe Ctrl+G would fit better with the flow, same as 00:10:175 (2) -
3. 00:43:603 (5,6,7) - Looks over hitsounded, and I can hear like no 5-hit streams in the song. Maybe either remove the claps or the stream
4. 00:45:489 (5) - A bit overmapped imo, patterns don't cover everything
5. 00:47:546 (3) - ^ imo it doesn't have to be continous
6. 00:48:403 (6) - ^
7. 00:50:975 (5) - ^
8. 00:57:661 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ think I'll stop it here~ change them if you agree~
9. 01:26:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Umm I don't really recommend this kinda shape tho, it looks like incomplete oval shape.
   Anyways, try to snap all of them into a same DS instead of getting further and closer
10. 01:27:832 - Hitsounds at the KIAI time feels more like soft sample set rather than the normal ones :3
11. 01:32:289 - Missing Clap
12. 01:39:318 (4,5,6) - Distance is too close compared to other jumps
13. 01:41:203 - Missing Clap
14. 01:49:775 - Need some claps from here
15. 02:10:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - For these kinda pattern, you can use the Creat Polygon Circle function (Ctrl+Shift+D), and it shows your hard work too instead of random placing:
    
    Image

    Before:
    
    _
    After:
    
    _
    Or you can do it like this, which would be more suggested:
    
16. 03:18:232 (3) - Try not to stack with 03:17:546 (1) -
17. 03:18:918 (6) - This one doesn't make sense imo, vocal and bg music sounded at 03:19:089 - , 03:19:261 - and 03:19:432 -
18. 03:39:146 - 100% volume is too loud here
19. 04:23:718 (1) - Remove NC, not needed imo
20. 04:31:603 (1) - Minor, not to stack with 04:30:746 (3) -

Rakuen wrote:

( =`･ω･´) Rakuen's Modding Queue (NM/M4M)

Default = Normal mods
Opt. = Optional / Minor / Nazi
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

[General]
:3

[Storyboard]
The background pictures of the storyboard are kinda blur, it's like not framed well, can see all the squares around them.

[Hitsounds]
Suggest to add a custom clap. Tell me if you need one from me

[Third Nature]

1. 00:07:089 (1) - NC isn't needed, remove it for constant combos.
   ^ Also, I'd suggest not to stack for better flow and jump, can place like this (possible arrange the whole set including 00:07:432 (3,4,5) - to your desired places):
   
   Image

   
2. 00:09:832 (1) - Maybe Ctrl+G would fit better with the flow, same as 00:10:175 (2) -
3. 00:43:603 (5,6,7) - Looks over hitsounded, and I can hear like no 5-hit streams in the song. Maybe either remove the claps or the stream
4. 00:45:489 (5) - A bit overmapped imo, patterns don't cover everything
5. 00:47:546 (3) - ^ imo it doesn't have to be continous
6. 00:48:403 (6) - ^
7. 00:50:975 (5) - ^
8. 00:57:661 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ think I'll stop it here~ change them if you agree~
9. 01:26:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Umm I don't really recommend this kinda shape tho, it looks like incomplete oval shape.
   Anyways, try to snap all of them into a same DS instead of getting further and closer
10. 01:27:832 - Hitsounds at the KIAI time feels more like soft sample set rather than the normal ones :3
11. 01:32:289 - Missing Clap
12. 01:39:318 (4,5,6) - Distance is too close compared to other jumps
13. 01:41:203 - Missing Clap
14. 01:49:775 - Need some claps from here
15. 02:10:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - For these kinda pattern, you can use the Creat Polygon Circle function (Ctrl+Shift+D), and it shows your hard work too instead of random placing:
    
    Image

    Before:
    
    _
    After:
    
    _
    Or you can do it like this, which would be more suggested:
    
16. 03:18:232 (3) - Try not to stack with 03:17:546 (1) -
17. 03:18:918 (6) - This one doesn't make sense imo, vocal and bg music sounded at 03:19:089 - , 03:19:261 - and 03:19:432 -
18. 03:39:146 - 100% volume is too loud here
19. 04:23:718 (1) - Remove NC, not needed imo
20. 04:31:603 (1) - Minor, not to stack with 04:30:746 (3) -

Rakuen wrote:

( =`･ω･´) Rakuen's Modding Queue (NM/M4M)

Default = Normal mods
Opt. = Optional / Minor / Nazi
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

[General]
:3

[Storyboard]
The background pictures of the storyboard are kinda blur, it's like not framed well, can see all the squares around them.

[Hitsounds]
Suggest to add a custom clap. Tell me if you need one from me

[Third Nature]

1. 00:07:089 (1) - NC isn't needed, remove it for constant combos. I'll keep it as it is.
   ^ Also, I'd suggest not to stack for better flow and jump, can place like this (possible arrange the whole set including 00:07:432 (3,4,5) - to your desired places):
   
   Image

   
2. 00:09:832 (1) - Maybe Ctrl+G would fit better with the flow, same as 00:10:175 (2) - I'll keep it as it is.
3. 00:43:603 (5,6,7) - Looks over hitsounded, and I can hear like no 5-hit streams in the song. Maybe either remove the claps or the stream I'll keep it as it is.
4. 00:45:489 (5) - A bit overmapped imo, patterns don't cover everything I'll keep it as it is.
5. 00:47:546 (3) - ^ imo it doesn't have to be continous I'll keep it as it is.
6. 00:48:403 (6) - ^ I'll keep it as it is.
7. 00:50:975 (5) - ^ I'll keep it as it is.
8. 00:57:661 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ think I'll stop it here~ change them if you agree~ I'll keep it as it is.
9. 01:26:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Umm I don't really recommend this kinda shape tho, it looks like incomplete oval shape.
   Hmm....It's fine
   Anyways, try to snap all of them into a same DS instead of getting further and closer It is the same DS
10. 01:27:832 - Hitsounds at the KIAI time feels more like soft sample set rather than the normal ones :3 I'll keep it as it is.
11. 01:32:289 - Missing Clap Yes.
12. 01:39:318 (4,5,6) - Distance is too close compared to other jumps I agree!
13. 01:41:203 - Missing Clap Yes ><
14. 01:49:775 - Need some claps from here Naah, i think it's best like this.
15. 02:10:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - For these kinda pattern, you can use the Creat Polygon Circle function (Ctrl+Shift+D), and it shows your hard work too instead of random placing: Hehe, i agree!
    
    Image

    Before:
    
    _
    After:
    
    _
    Or you can do it like this, which would be more suggested:
    
16. 03:18:232 (3) - Try not to stack with 03:17:546 (1) - Ok.
17. 03:18:918 (6) - This one doesn't make sense imo, vocal and bg music sounded at 03:19:089 - , 03:19:261 - and 03:19:432 - True.
18. 03:39:146 - 100% volume is too loud here Yes.
19. 04:23:718 (1) - Remove NC, not needed imo You are right.
20. 04:31:603 (1) - Minor, not to stack with 04:30:746 (3) - I'll keep it as it is.

baraatje123 wrote:

Hi
From M4M

[Third Nature]

Blue color might be not good visible due to SB, please look at that Fixed

Hp 7.5? WTF DUDE, IT'S 5+ MIN LONG, ARE YOU CRAZY? Please, 5-6 Is already high enough, and it's rather long Fixed

00:04:003 (4) - Try to get a better blanket, 248;232 is a example place Fixed
00:18:918 (10,1) - IMO, this looks rather bad. It would be better w/o curve at (10) I'll keep it as it is now.
00:28:175 (3) - Make this 1/2, there is a clap like sound in the music at the red tick I'll keep it as it is now.
00:29:546 (3,1) - Ugly overlap. Maybe you can both set them at the same coordinate Fixed
00:33:661 (4,1) - Overlap? Fixed
00:35:546 (4,1) - Overlap looks ugly Fixed
00:59:461 (4) - As it's a slow part, I would remove it, for the 1/2 (Also, there is no sound at 00:59:461 (4) - so deleting it is better IMO) Fixed
01:37:432 (6,7,8) - Put (7) in the exact middle, it looks weird for me Fixed
01:56:632 (5) - As this goes together with (6), delete the curves, and make it straight, just like (6) ( 464;84-413;164 would be good for example) Fixed
2nd kiai - break - to much streams. Consider deleting some, and make 1/2 jumps I don't want to, it's fine as it is, and it's more exciting IMO >.<
04:32:803 (4) - Slider looks weird, consider changing it a little Fixed

Good map, but some parts look kinda bad, but as it's mostly personal, I decided not to type them Okay, thanks for the mod, it was helpful ^^

Hanjamon wrote:

Hi Tochi~ here the taiko gd you requested and sorry for keep you waiting

Taiko Diff ---> http://puu.sh/cMmqO/a1ecccfc4b.rar :3

1. 00:05:546 (1) - in begin, Clap needed? I prefer remove, shound good with only finish
2. 00:43:946 (1) - in begin, could add finish, I know beat is weak but vocal is strong, Finish with soft sound good imo
3. 01:00:403 (1) - ^ same
4. 01:49:775 (1) - remove clap in begin, but finish stay
5. 02:19:603 (6) - Missing add clap
6. 02:25:432 (1) - missing finish
7. 02:30:918 (1) - ^ same
8. 02:43:603 (2) - missing clap
9. 02:54:746 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - just saying this stream, could add all whistle ? like you did pattern before I kidding like it IMO
10. 03:01:089 (1) - add whistle in begin could fit with melody strong IMO
11. 03:03:832 (1) - ^ same
12. 03:06:575 (1) - ^ same
13. 03:09:318 (1) - ^ same
14. 03:12:061 (1) - ^ same
15. 03:20:289 (1) - missing add finish in begin
16. 03:34:003 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - everthing could add clap like you did pattern in 01:22:346 because that ryhthm is same IMO
17. 03:39:489 (1) - missing finish in begin
18. 03:41:889 (6) - missing add clap
19. 03:55:603 (6) - ^ same
20. 04:22:089 (7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same in 02:54:746 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)
21. 04:24:746 (1) - missing finish in begin
22. 04:33:318 (6) - missing clap in begin
23. 04:45:318 at 05:03:146 - where claps ? the ryhthm still there IMO
24. 05:04:518 (1) - ryhthm stop but vocal + melody is there could fit add whistle in begin IMO
    
    Nice use, just lot missing with you style patten, pls recheck ( I did full check )

1. 00:04:175 (5) - could nc music is change
2. 00:24:746 (1) - I not like overlap with 00:25:432 (3), do blanket or something
3. 00:26:632 (4,6,7) - they are very close, would be nice if out space more, just need clean border like this http://puu.sh/cPagB/0811dbd996.jpg is better IMO
4. 00:28:175 (3,4) - intentional or not, blanket ?
5. 00:30:232 (1) - need grid 1 right to perfect stack
6. 00:41:546 (2,3) - would be nice flow and jump, try CTRL + G with (2,3) then try again CTRL + G alone (2) and (3) see this picture http://puu.sh/cPaC4/e563739a0d.jpg try testplay, jusy my opinion
7. 00:50:803 (3) - Need NC
8. 01:52:261 (6,7,8) - this stream with spacing 0.2x kindy bad IMO would be good if 0.5x or 0.6x
9. 02:25:432 (1) - this need remove new combo, Nc is no there sense
10. 02:25:775 (1) - this need move place x:280 y:44 better, just clean border with 02:26:118 (3)
11. 02:40:518 (6) - need nc
12. 02:48:918 (1,2) - kindy ugly overlap http://puu.sh/cPaXA/80918a7817.jpg this is better imo
13. 03:59:375 (3) - move place x:32 y:152
14. 04:01:432 (5) - Missing NC
15. 04:27:318 (4) - ^ same
16. 04:33:146 (5) - ^ same
17. 04:41:203 (5) - ^ same
18. 04:47:718 (1) - remove new combo, better imo
19. 05:03:318 (5) - new combo

Pereira006 wrote:

hi

[Third Nature]

hitsound:

1. 00:05:546 (1) - in begin, Clap needed? I prefer remove, shound good with only finish The finish and clap starts there so i'll keep it as it is ^^
2. 00:43:946 (1) - in begin, could add finish, I know beat is weak but vocal is strong, Finish with soft sound good imo Fixed!
3. 01:00:403 (1) - ^ same Fixed!
4. 01:49:775 (1) - remove clap in begin, but finish stay The finish and clap starts there so i'll keep it as it is
5. 02:19:603 (6) - Missing add clap Fixed!
6. 02:25:432 (1) - missing finish Fixed!
7. 02:30:918 (1) - ^ same Fixed!
8. 02:43:603 (2) - missing clap That sounds a bit overmapped if i add clap
9. 02:54:746 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - just saying this stream, could add all whistle ? like you did pattern before I kidding like it IMO Fixed!
10. 03:01:089 (1) - add whistle in begin could fit with melody strong IMO I'll keep it as it is.
11. 03:03:832 (1) - ^ same Nope.
12. 03:06:575 (1) - ^ same Same ^
13. 03:09:318 (1) - ^ same Same ^
14. 03:12:061 (1) - ^ same Same ^
15. 03:20:289 (1) - missing add finish in begin Fixed!
16. 03:34:003 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - everthing could add clap like you did pattern in 01:22:346 because that ryhthm is same IMO Fixed!
17. 03:39:489 (1) - missing finish in begin Naah, that sounds a bit sudden.
18. 03:41:889 (6) - missing add clap Fixed!
19. 03:55:603 (6) - ^ same I'll keep it as it is.
20. 04:22:089 (7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same in 02:54:746 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) No, i'll keep it as it is.
21. 04:24:746 (1) - missing finish in begin A bit sudden if i add it
22. 04:33:318 (6) - missing clap in begin Sounds a bit overmapped with it.
23. 04:45:318 at 05:03:146 - where claps ? the ryhthm still there IMO Fixed!
24. 05:04:518 (1) - ryhthm stop but vocal + melody is there could fit add whistle in begin IMO I'll keep it as it is.
    
    Nice use, just lot missing with you style patten, pls recheck ( I did full check )

Gameplay:

1. 00:04:175 (5) - could nc music is change Yes, but i'll keep it as it is.
2. 00:24:746 (1) - I not like overlap with 00:25:432 (3), do blanket or something Fixed!
3. 00:26:632 (4,6,7) - they are very close, would be nice if out space more, just need clean border like this http://puu.sh/cPagB/0811dbd996.jpg is better IMO Fixed!
4. 00:28:175 (3,4) - intentional or not, blanket ? It's fine as it is now.
5. 00:30:232 (1) - need grid 1 right to perfect stack Fixed!
6. 00:41:546 (2,3) - would be nice flow and jump, try CTRL + G with (2,3) then try again CTRL + G alone (2) and (3) see this picture http://puu.sh/cPaC4/e563739a0d.jpg try testplay, jusy my opinion Kinda Fixed!
7. 00:50:803 (3) - Need NC No.
8. 01:52:261 (6,7,8) - this stream with spacing 0.2x kindy bad IMO would be good if 0.5x or 0.6x Fixed!
9. 02:25:432 (1) - this need remove new combo, Nc is no there sense Fixed!
10. 02:25:775 (1) - this need move place x:280 y:44 better, just clean border with 02:26:118 (3) Fixed!
11. 02:40:518 (6) - need nc Fixed!
12. 02:48:918 (1,2) - kindy ugly overlap http://puu.sh/cPaXA/80918a7817.jpg this is better imo Fixed!
13. 03:59:375 (3) - move place x:32 y:152 Fixed!
14. 04:01:432 (5) - Missing NC Fixed!
15. 04:27:318 (4) - ^ same Fixed!
16. 04:33:146 (5) - ^ same Nope.
17. 04:41:203 (5) - ^ same Fixed!
18. 04:47:718 (1) - remove new combo, better imo Fixed!
19. 05:03:318 (5) - new combo Fixed!

Well done, Hitsound only missing and gameplay, general good
I wish good luck

Aiceo wrote:

Love this song m4m maybe?( if you have the time) Maybe.... just Forum PM me your map. crappy mod incoming:

newbie mod

01:33:317 (1) - should change this slider, I don't think anybody likes sliders like that. No, i'll keep it like that.
01:47:545 (2,3) - move to 01:46:860 (7) - and make it a double into slider. Idk what you mean?
01:51:145 (1,2,3,4) - would be more fun with highly spaced two short sliders. Nice idea, but it's fine like this.
01:57:831 (4) - insert a triple? You have one right here 01:52:260 (6,7,8) - and tose two parts have the same vocals. That would be weird, because of the next slider.
02:33:660 (1) - change the slider and don't connect it to the other triple? It's better like this.
03:35:374 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - really frustrating and boring to play for me. Change it up a bit. Yes, you are right.
03:58:517 (7,1) - triple into slider? There's already some tripples at that part, and the player will be tired of it. lol
04:18:317 (2,3) - move one tick forward so the double goes into a the slider? I agree
I'm not a pro, and this might not help you much, those are only personal suggestions. You helped me a bit, so it's fine ^^

1. I suggest to add an audio lead in of at least 2000ms, this can be fixed in the notepad
2. Offset is a bit late, im not good with offset so i cant really give you a suggestion, ask someone good at timing for help lol

1. 00:00:317 - the image starts off clear, blurs then goes clear again, unless you intended for this i suggest starting the blur at the start of the song, so it comes in blurred and then gets clear, not coming in clear and going blur and clear again xD
2. 00:02:888 - Should start at 00:02:802 - or else it seems late
3. 00:16:602 - start it on white tick 00:16:517 -
   same thing applies to any other place using this concept
4. 01:27:831 - i suggest having a flash here or something because the slower flash at 01:28:002 - seems extremely awkward
5. 04:01:431 - Try and make this transition smoother.. probably start it on the white tick as well

1. 00:00:745 (3) - not sure why you wanna miss an opportunity to map the bass sound and make this part easier than it should be
2. 00:03:488 (3) - ^
3. 00:04:174 (5) - add nc, make sure you keep them consistent
4. 00:06:745 (4) - this note sounds really awkward because it ends on a downbeat, i would suggest trying another rhythm
5. 00:08:288 (1,3) - stack is off
6. 00:11:031 (1) - imo if you moved this lower the flow wouldnt be so stiff and flows better
7. 00:11:717 (3) - just some aesthetics; it would look nice if this were to follow the curve of (1) , i also added in the suggestion above this one to show you the visuals
   SPOILER

   
8. 00:13:260 (5,6,1) - flow here is pretty awkward, i suggest ctrl + g 00:13:774 (1) - , might need some minor adjustments to its positioning after
9. 00:15:317 (1) - maybe move somewhere around x244 y336 for better, circular flow
10. 00:16:345 (6) - ^ x100 y228
11. 00:17:545 (3,4,5) - move to the bottom left for better flow from tail of previous note
12. 00:18:060 (1,2) - this stack seems awkward and not so consistent
13. 00:20:802 (1,2,3) - ^ would prefer you did some nice jumps
14. 00:26:802 (5) - unstack? stacking makes it a bit repetitive
15. 00:27:488 (1) - ctrl + g, imo it flows better
16. 00:37:088 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - personally not a fan of this jump.. it doesnt really even make sense tbh, would prefer just normal jumps here
17. 00:45:317 (3) - you might wanna use silent slider slide here , have this one xD http://puu.sh/cR8o9/494441f3cc.wav , but IMO i feel that this entire section should be a break, the music is not very dominant and personally, mapping the vocals is hard to get good accuracy on and also feels weird to play
    01:05:888 (1) - i dont hear in the music why you have all these finishes here, doesnt match at all imo, and your hitsounding is a bit off too, if you want to keep these i suggest having one on every beat (white tick) not on every note or it sounds really ugly and inconsistent >_<, but the finishes are okay starting here 01:16:860 (1) - as long as they are kept consistent
18. 01:19:431 (9) - remove, dont really see purpose of it
19. 01:29:545 (2) - move down a bit so it flows better and the distant spacing isnt so inconsistent 01:29:374 (1,2) - far away and 01:29:545 (2,3) - too close
20. 01:37:945 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - overmapped, the sound in the music is only 1/2 yet you have all these 1/4 that dont make sense,
21. 01:40:174 - should be a note here?
22. 01:45:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - personally i find these stacking jumps to be really annoying and repetitive, try something else ?>.<
23. 01:48:574 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
24. 01:51:145 (1) - add whistle
25. 01:58:174 - why is this part unmapped lol
26. 02:03:488 (1) - follow the curve of 02:02:802 (3) - (why does (1) have 4 points anyway? 3 is much easier
    SPOILER

    
27. 02:10:345 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - uh stream gets confusing because it overlaps itself, try something other than a circle please.. also all the new combos isnt needed, just follow your normal combo pattern
28. 02:22:345 (4,5) - overmapped, the sound in the music is only 1/2
29. 02:25:602 - add circle? so its not so empty
30. 02:35:374 (4) - this isnt stacked properly if that was your goal lol, also i suggest moving it down a bit more for smoother flow
31. 02:44:288 (5,6) - same as 02:22:345 (4,5)
32. 02:45:145 (2) - ^
33. 03:01:088 (1) - uh personally i dont think you should map this part, the music is so faint it just feels unnecessary to be mapped, also you only have 1 tiny tiny break in a whole 5+min marathon map
34. 03:17:545 (1) - same thing as 01:05:888 (1) , also for this part im really not sure what you are following, seems like its overmapped quite a bit. Even though this is an insane/marathon theres no need to make parts harder than they actually are beyond the music of the song,
35. 03:36:231 (6,7,8) - this stacking doesnt look good, lol i have the same complaints as all the other jumps that you've stacked too much on xD
36. 03:36:745 (1) - remove whistle and clap
37. 03:54:402 (6,1,2) - i would rather you not stacked these thx xD
38. 04:09:660 (1) - weird slider shape lol
39. 04:12:402 (1) - imo would flow better if you ctrl + g , you'll probably need to make adjustments to the next few notes too like i would suggest ctrl + g 04:12:917 (2) - (gotta move 04:13:174 (3,4) - as well) then ctrl + g 04:13:431 (5) - for a circular flow altogether
40. 04:23:717 (2) - NC because kiai starts here :/
41. 04:45:317 (1) - same thing about finishes as 01:05:888 (1)
    Well overall i think this map requires some work, although you're doing a great job as this is only your second map, you still have a while to go, i feel like i could of said a lot more about this map but i didnt since they'll mostly be repeats, of what i've previously stated. Try to look at some mappers you admire and see how they map so you can get a better sense, since the overall quality of this map is (im sorry) not that great >__< '' Ask me if you have any questions :3

GyroX20 wrote:

From my M4M Queue

[Third Nature]

00:01:431 (5) - Start Combo here instead of here: 00:01:774 (1) - Agreed. Fixed!
00:04:174 (5) - NC Fixed!
00:09:831 (1) - Do you want to stack the end of this on this?: 00:08:802 (2) - Fixed!
00:15:145 (6) - Start combo here instead of here: 00:15:317 (1) - Fixed!
00:17:888 (6) - ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 00:18:060 (1) - Fixed!
00:20:631 (7) - ^ 00:20:802 (1) - Fixed!
00:53:202 (1) - I suggest removing the NC here Oh, naah...
01:33:317 (1) - Maybe try to make this slider a little more neat (unless you dont want to) Just a bit more neat :p
01:43:260 (2,5) - Maybe try to stack the end of 01:43:945 (5) with (2) Fixed!
02:37:088 (5,1) - Stack Fixed!
03:02:460 (5) - NC Fixed!
03:10:517 (4) - Dont make this a slider, maybe make the end of this slider and 03:10:860 (1) into a slider Fixed!
03:32:802 (2,4) - Dont Overlap Fixed!
03:50:631 (2,5) - ^ Fixed!


Very Good Map!
Hope it gets ranked!

kakifly wrote:

yo m4m here :3

General

1. I suggest to add an audio lead in of at least 2000ms, this can be fixed in the notepad Fixed!
2. Offset is a bit late, im not good with offset so i cant really give you a suggestion, ask someone good at timing for help lol Fixed!

Storyboard

1. 00:00:317 - the image starts off clear, blurs then goes clear again, unless you intended for this i suggest starting the blur at the start of the song, so it comes in blurred and then gets clear, not coming in clear and going blur and clear again xD Fixed!
2. 00:02:888 - Should start at 00:02:802 - or else it seems late Lol, it was fixed before i did it
3. 00:16:602 - start it on white tick 00:16:517 - I did it with all the others, after offset change.
   same thing applies to any other place using this concept Yes.
4. 01:27:831 - i suggest having a flash here or something because the slower flash at 01:28:002 - seems extremely awkward Fixed!
5. 04:01:431 - Try and make this transition smoother.. probably start it on the white tick as well

Fixed!

Third Nature

1. 00:00:745 (3) - not sure why you wanna miss an opportunity to map the bass sound and make this part easier than it should be Fixed!
2. 00:03:488 (3) - ^ Fixed!
3. 00:04:174 (5) - add nc, make sure you keep them consistent Fixed!
4. 00:06:745 (4) - this note sounds really awkward because it ends on a downbeat, i would suggest trying another rhythm Fixed!
5. 00:08:288 (1,3) - stack is off It isn't?
6. 00:11:031 (1) - imo if you moved this lower the flow wouldnt be so stiff and flows better Fixed!
7. 00:11:717 (3) - just some aesthetics; it would look nice if this were to follow the curve of (1) , i also added in the suggestion above this one to show you the visuals Fixed!
   SPOILER

   
8. 00:13:260 (5,6,1) - flow here is pretty awkward, i suggest ctrl + g 00:13:774 (1) - , might need some minor adjustments to its positioning after Fixed!
9. 00:15:317 (1) - maybe move somewhere around x244 y336 for better, circular flow Fixed!
10. 00:16:345 (6) - ^ x100 y228 Fixed!
11. 00:17:545 (3,4,5) - move to the bottom left for better flow from tail of previous note Fixed!
12. 00:18:060 (1,2) - this stack seems awkward and not so consistent Fixed!
13. 00:20:802 (1,2,3) - ^ would prefer you did some nice jumps Naah...
14. 00:26:802 (5) - unstack? stacking makes it a bit repetitive Fixed!
15. 00:27:488 (1) - ctrl + g, imo it flows better Fixed!
16. 00:37:088 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - personally not a fan of this jump.. it doesnt really even make sense tbh, would prefer just normal jumps here I'll keep it as it is here.
17. 00:45:317 (3) - you might wanna use silent slider slide here , have this one xD http://puu.sh/cR8o9/494441f3cc.wav Fixed! , but IMO i feel that this entire section should be a break, the music is not very dominant and personally, mapping the vocals is hard to get good accuracy on and also feels weird to play Nope.
    01:05:888 (1) - i dont hear in the music why you have all these finishes here, doesnt match at all imo, and your hitsounding is a bit off too, if you want to keep these i suggest having one on every beat (white tick) not on every note or it sounds really ugly and inconsistent >_<, but the finishes are okay starting here 01:16:860 (1) - as long as they are kept consistent I'll keep it as it is.
18. 01:19:431 (9) - remove, dont really see purpose of it Fixed!
19. 01:29:545 (2) - move down a bit so it flows better and the distant spacing isnt so inconsistent 01:29:374 (1,2) - far away and 01:29:545 (2,3) - too close Fixed!
20. 01:37:945 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - overmapped, the sound in the music is only 1/2 yet you have all these 1/4 that dont make sense, No change.
21. 01:40:174 - should be a note here? Fixed!
22. 01:45:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - personally i find these stacking jumps to be really annoying and repetitive, try something else ?>.< Fixed!
23. 01:48:574 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ Fixed!
24. 01:51:145 (1) - add whistle No change
25. 01:58:174 - why is this part unmapped lol No change.
26. 02:03:488 (1) - follow the curve of 02:02:802 (3) - (why does (1) have 4 points anyway? 3 is much easier Fixed!
    SPOILER

    
27. 02:10:345 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - uh stream gets confusing because it overlaps itself, try something other than a circle please No change... also all the new combos isnt needed, just follow your normal combo pattern Fixed!
28. 02:22:345 (4,5) - overmapped, the sound in the music is only 1/2 No change, it's like a stream just easier, lol
29. 02:25:602 - add circle? so its not so empty No, player must have a breather
30. 02:35:374 (4) - this isnt stacked properly if that was your goal lol, also i suggest moving it down a bit more for smoother flow Fixed!
31. 02:44:288 (5,6) - same as 02:22:345 (4,5) No change.
32. 02:45:145 (2) - ^ Fixed!
33. 03:01:088 (1) - uh personally i dont think you should map this part, the music is so faint it just feels unnecessary to be mapped, also you only have 1 tiny tiny break in a whole 5+min marathon map Only the first.
34. 03:17:545 (1) - same thing as 01:05:888 (1) , also for this part im really not sure what you are following, seems like its overmapped quite a bit. Even though this is an insane/marathon theres no need to make parts harder than they actually are beyond the music of the song, No change
35. 03:36:231 (6,7,8) - this stacking doesnt look good, lol i have the same complaints as all the other jumps that you've stacked too much on xD No change
36. 03:36:745 (1) - remove whistle and clap No change
37. 03:54:402 (6,1,2) - i would rather you not stacked these thx xD No change
38. 04:09:660 (1) - weird slider shape lol No change
39. 04:12:402 (1) - imo would flow better if you ctrl + g , you'll probably need to make adjustments to the next few notes too like i would suggest ctrl + g 04:12:917 (2) - (gotta move 04:13:174 (3,4) - as well) then ctrl + g 04:13:431 (5) - for a circular flow altogether No change D:
40. 04:23:717 (2) - NC because kiai starts here :/ No change xD
41. 04:45:317 (1) - same thing about finishes as 01:05:888 (1) No change
    Well overall i think this map requires some work, although you're doing a great job as this is only your second map, you still have a while to go, i feel like i could of said a lot more about this map but i didnt since they'll mostly be repeats, of what i've previously stated. Try to look at some mappers you admire and see how they map so you can get a better sense, since the overall quality of this map is (im sorry) not that great >__< '' Ask me if you have any questions :3 Maybe because you have many opinions, since it's not ur mapping style etc. I'll contact you when i need help xD
    This is not my #2 map btw xD it's just my #2 DnB submitted map c:

good luck!

ryuu wrote:

hi :3
as requested.
it's all just my suggestions
feel free to ignore

general

check aimod, please. Yes, i don't really know how to fix the Taiko problems, and i can't unselect Letterbox

third nature

00:01:260 (4) - why don't make it symmetrically 00:00:574 (2) - ? Fixed!
00:02:802 (1) - why don't make it specularly 00:03:488 (3) - or conversely. No change
00:05:545 (1) - blanket Fixed!
00:11:717 (3) - ctrl+j-form? Fixed!
00:32:117 (2) - make it straight, please Fixed!
00:38:460 (1,3) - same as 00:02:802 (1) - Huh?
01:01:774 (1) - don't really like this shape, but nvm When of all time did i make this slider? xD Fixed!
01:38:802 (1,3) - mb make something like this? Naah, that slider is a blanket
01:52:517 (1) - delet red point or make more bend Fixed!
03:01:774 (3) - make a bend in the opposite direction? Fixed!
03:12:745 (3) - m? Fixed!
03:18:574 (5) - make a bend in the opposite direction? Fixed!
03:55:945 (8,11) - same as 00:11:717 (3) - No change
04:45:488 (1,2,3,1,2) - make perfect star-form? No change

nice diff
good luck ~ Thank you c:

1. Third Nature diff offset is 57, but Hanjamon's Oni diff offset is 61, it's unrankable, you need to unity them

1. Check AImod, there are so many unsnapped object
2. 00:04:514 - do same thing with 00:09:142 - ?
3. 00:20:799 (2,3) - i recommend don't stack them, i think you can move 00:20:971 (3) - to x408 y336
4. 00:25:428 (3,4,5) - i think this pattern can make more natural
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:26:457 (3) - try move to x124 y300
6. 00:32:457 (3,4,5) - i suggest use same distance snap here
7. 00:37:771 (5,6,7,8) - imo it's bad flow with 00:37:085 (1,2,3,4) - , make square pattern again can solve this
   
   SPOILER

   
8. 02:22:514 (5) - ctrl+g
9. 03:14:796 - unsnapped green line, snap it to 03:14:799 -
10. 04:09:399 (4,5,6) - it's hard for play
11. 04:16:342 (6,4) - stack better
12. 04:20:628 (1) - beat are 04:20:799 - , but not 04:20:885 - , you are used 1/1 slider on 04:15:142 (1) - , i think you should use 1/1 slider here (04:20:628 - )

Kawaiwkyik wrote:

[General]

1. Third Nature diff offset is 57, but Hanjamon's Oni diff offset is 61, it's unrankable, you need to unity them Fixed!

[Third Nature]

1. Check AImod, there are so many unsnapped object Fixed!
2. 00:04:514 - do same thing with 00:09:142 - ? No change
3. 00:20:799 (2,3) - i recommend don't stack them, i think you can move 00:20:971 (3) - to x408 y336 Fixed!
4. 00:25:428 (3,4,5) - i think this pattern can make more natural Fixed!
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:26:457 (3) - try move to x124 y300 Fixed!
6. 00:32:457 (3,4,5) - i suggest use same distance snap here Fixed!
7. 00:37:771 (5,6,7,8) - imo it's bad flow with 00:37:085 (1,2,3,4) - , make square pattern again can solve this Fixed!
   
   SPOILER

   
8. 02:22:514 (5) - ctrl+g Fixed!
9. 03:14:796 - unsnapped green line, snap it to 03:14:799 - Fixed!
10. 04:09:399 (4,5,6) - it's hard for play No change
11. 04:16:342 (6,4) - stack better Fixed!
12. 04:20:628 (1) - beat are 04:20:799 - , but not 04:20:885 - , you are used 1/1 slider on 04:15:142 (1) - , i think you should use 1/1 slider here (04:20:628 - ) Fixed!

1. Fine

1. 00:42:999 (5) - k? It would fit more the song.
2. 00:47:028 (24,25) - d k instead of k d? (match the vocal melody)
3. 00:55:942 (4) - k?
4. 02:10:685 (164) - k?
5. 03:35:028 (71) - k?

Underflow wrote:

[General]

1. Fine

[Hanjamon's Oni]

1. 00:42:999 (5) - k? It would fit more the song. no change, i like the actual stream
2. 00:47:028 (24,25) - d k instead of k d? (match the vocal melody) okay
3. 00:55:942 (4) - k? okay
4. 02:10:685 (164) - k? no change, i like the actual stream
5. 03:35:028 (71) - k? no change, is not bad but i want this more simple

I'm really sorry, i can't find more than.

Hanjamon wrote:

Underflow wrote:

[General]

1. Fine

[Hanjamon's Oni]

1. 00:42:999 (5) - k? It would fit more the song. no change, i like the actual stream
2. 00:47:028 (24,25) - d k instead of k d? (match the vocal melody) okay
3. 00:55:942 (4) - k? okay
4. 02:10:685 (164) - k? no change, i like the actual stream
5. 03:35:028 (71) - k? no change, is not bad but i want this more simple

I'm really sorry, i can't find more than.

Thanks for the mod ^^

Update ---> http://puu.sh/cZttz/7166402df7.rar

Thanks for the mod Underflow ^^

I've updated it

1. 00:34:171 (200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211) - i found that you use the similar pattern as former part, but the former part is more calm to me, so i suggest you try another pattern like this
2. 00:39:828 (242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252) - same as above
3. 03:09:142 (31) - how about use d? the pattern and the melody almost the same with 03:02:628 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -
4. 04:23:371 (1) - try to cut down the volume on this note, may increase next part's power
5. 04:23:714 (2) - add finish? to make this song more exciting
6. 05:07:257 (1) - this spinner is too long , try make this shorter, you can make this spinner end on 05:09:999 - when the sb ended

qoot8123 wrote:

hi o/

[ Taiko]

1. 00:34:171 (200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211) - i found that you use the similar pattern as former part, but the former part is more calm to me, so i suggest you try another pattern like this sounds good, fixed :3
2. 00:39:828 (242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252) - same as above ^ :3
3. 03:09:142 (31) - how about use d? the pattern and the melody almost the same with 03:02:628 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ :3
4. 04:23:371 (1) - try to cut down the volume on this note, may increase next part's power done
5. 04:23:714 (2) - add finish? to make this song more exciting nice
6. 05:07:257 (1) - this spinner is too long , try make this shorter, you can make this spinner end on 05:09:999 - when the sb ended done but ended in

05:09:314 -

good taiko diff as usual :3

call me back when you are ready

TwistedDuck wrote:

Heyho

chatlog

00:05 TwistedDuck: from playing, this: 00:00:057 (1) - could be more curvy
00:05 TwistedDuck: like the other sliders into the map
00:06 TwistedDuck: 00:01:257 (5) - too far off
00:06 TwistedDuck: breaks the flow imho
00:07 TwistedDuck: 00:28:857 (1) - this is nice
00:07 TwistedDuck: blanketing from 3, i should do that more often
00:07 TwistedDuck: 00:32:971 (1) - this could blanket as well instead of straight 00:32:971 (1) -
00:08 TwistedDuck: ok 01:00:228 (3) - this should face opposite side
00:09 TwistedDuck: of 01:00:399 (1) - 1
00:09 -Tochi: brb
00:09 TwistedDuck: 01:08:285 (5) - u can curve this opposite to 4
00:09 TwistedDuck: ok
00:12 TwistedDuck: Curve 01:54:571 (5) - http://puu.sh/d1aYs/d5b2b977a2.png to http://puu.sh/d1aV9/cbd34e7942.png smoother to connect to 6
00:12 -Tochi: back
00:12 TwistedDuck: wb~
00:12 -Tochi: thanks
00:12 TwistedDuck: This you can blanket as well, it will be godly 01:55:942 (3) -
00:13 TwistedDuck: like this shape
00:13 -Tochi: can u /np me the map again?
00:13 TwistedDuck: )(
00:13 *TwistedDuck is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/527181 Starz ft Veela - Second Nature [Third Nature]]
00:14 -Tochi: um, can u continue the mod on my maps thread?
00:14 TwistedDuck: 02:13:599 (2) - This breaks flow as well http://puu.sh/d1b8u/3b214a2292.png u could direct 2 towards 1 slider a bit more
00:14 -Tochi: i can't really do irc right now
00:15 TwistedDuck: ill just post this log
00:15 TwistedDuck: if that's fine?
00:15 -Tochi: well, it's easier for me to edit when u post it normally
00:16 TwistedDuck: that takes a lot of pains to do a forum mod
00:16 TwistedDuck: ill just post this chat in the chat
00:16 TwistedDuck: forum*
00:16 -Tochi: ok, fine
00:16 TwistedDuck: either make 2 02:43:085 (1) - connect bertter to those small stream or allign the stream to connect: smootheness
00:17 TwistedDuck: 5 should be curved, a bit 02:48:399 (5) -
00:18 TwistedDuck: 03:09:828 (2) - shuld be closer to previous beat than next since it's off set
00:19 TwistedDuck: feels weird for me: 03:51:657 (8,9,10) - but not sure
00:19 TwistedDuck: prolly have to ask other modders to chip in
00:20 TwistedDuck: this is what you could do for the other straight blanket sliders, just a bit of curve makes it so much smoother and nicer http://puu.sh/d1byP/1bee8fe7f1.png
00:21 TwistedDuck: Curve this 04:37:085 (8) - or move 1 100s zone
00:22 TwistedDuck: Overall nice map
00:22 TwistedDuck: Could be a repeater slider then followed by a beat http://puu.sh/d1bHV/aee57c6184.png

Lunatic Raccoon wrote:

lol this is a STD map
I can't mod this sorry (My Queue is for mania only)

Spelly wrote:

Great map! Keep up the good work

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

Here's my mod from the team's queue~

I can only mod standard. Looks like Taiko diff doesn't need further modding anyway XD

Most of my mod will use references from this thread. If you don't understand something in this mod, refer to that thread.

General

1. Letterbox during breaks in inconsistent in the difficulties. Check that. I can't change it somehow:
   
   Delicious image :^)

   
2. Offset ok, bpm MUST be ok since this is DnB XD Offset and bpm is fine (Most DnB maps is 175 BPM btw)

[notice] Third Nature

1. 00:00:742 (3,4) - This is a recurring problem throughout your intro. The sliderend is the only beat with a hitsound. I would suggest reversing the order of 3 and 4 in the timeline so that the slider actually starts from the more significant impact point that is the red tick. Fixed!
2. 00:02:114 (4,5) - Same issue here. Same solution as well! It feels more natural as it is now.
3. 00:03:485 (3,4) - Again same issue. No change.
4. 00:04:857 (3) - Not really sure why this is a 1/1 slider, you're missing a great opportunity for 1/2 here since there is a sound in the red tick which is easily mappable, but you skipped it. Circle into slider would work the best here to accentuate the slider's start in the red tick with the clap sound. No change.
5. 00:06:228 (3,4) - This one is done right! Thanks!
6. 00:08:971 (3) - Same issue as the previous 1/1 slider I mentioned, except this time you have also hitsounded the slidertick in the middle. This technique is best left for easier difficulties. Again, a circle followed by a slider 1/2 apart is the best choice here. Fixed!
7. 00:11:714 (3,4) - Same as everything else Fixed!
8. 00:14:285 (2) - Turning this into a slider into circle or even three circles would be way better for the same hitsound reason. No change
9. 00:17:028 (2) - The same as above. No change.
10. 00:18:399 (4,5) - Same as everything else, hitsounding in the last swing in a slider and not hitsounding anything else previously is just bad. This would be better if you went with two circles followed by a slider and finishing things off with a circle. Fixed!
    
    kawaii box look at me!

    
11. 00:21:485 (5) - Remove the reverse and add a circle, same reason as everything else XD No change.
12. 00:22:514 (2) - Exactly the same as above. No change.
13. 00:24:057 (3) - Same 1/1 slider issue as the rest. Fix the same way. Fixed!
14. 00:25:428 (3) - This has to turn into two circles to give a good transition to the next triple, instead of beginning the triple with a sliderend. It is, but no change.
15. 00:26:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is really good, more circles would serve you well in this map. Ok.
16. 00:28:171 (3,4) - Recurring issue, reverse the two in the timeline. No change.
17. 00:29:542 (3) - This is getting boring No change.
18. 00:30:914 (3,4) - Same as everything else. No change.
19. 00:32:114 (2,3,4) - I feel the slider fits more where 3 is rather than where it is now. Reversing the two circles with the slider in the timeline would be awesome! No change.
20. 00:33:657 (4) - Would definitely turn this into two circles.No change.
21. 00:35:028 (3) - Again same issue. No change.
22. 00:36:228 (2,3,4,5) - I feel the triple fits more where 2 begins rather than where 3 begins. Try it and see! No change.
23. 00:39:142 (3) - Same 1/1 slider issue as everywhere else No change.
24. 00:40:514 (3) - ^ No change.
25. 00:41:885 (3,4) - Reverse these two objects in the timeline here as well. No change.
26. 01:15:485 (1,2) - Reverse here as well, vocals are stronger on 1 rather than 2 or 2's sliderend. No change.
27. 01:22:342 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - All these sliders are better off as circles since you feel both the starts and ends have the same significance. No change.
28. 01:32:628 (3) - 1/1 slider issue again. No change.
29. 01:33:999 (3) - Same. No change.
30. 01:36:742 (4) - ^ No change.
31. 01:39:485 (3) - ^ No change
32. 01:40:857 (4,5) - For the same reasons, circle into slider into circle works the best here. No change.
33. 01:42:228 (3) - 1/1 slider issue. No change.
34. 01:43:599 (4,5) - Same as previous issue. No change.
35. 01:44:971 (3) - Aaaaaa What? No change.
36. 01:47:714 (4) - :'( No change. Don't cry already xD
37. 01:50:457 (4,5) - Again, circle into slider into circle works better. No change.
38. 01:51:828 (5) - 1/1 slider issue. No change, it would sound weird.
39. 01:53:199 (3,4) - Let's call this double slider issue since it feels to be occuring quite a lot. Okay, but no change.
40. 01:54:571 (5) - 1/1 slider issue also here. No change.
41. 01:55:942 (3,4) - Double slider issue. No change
42. 01:57:314 (3) - 1/1 slider issue. No change.
43. 01:58:685 (8,9) - If you wanna keep 9, I suggest turning 8 into two circles. No change.
44. 02:00:228 (5,6) - Slider into circle works better. No change.
45. 02:01:428 (4,5) - Double slider issue here. No change.
46. 02:02:799 (3) - 1/1 slider issue. No change.
47. 02:04:171 (7,8) - Double slider issue, I think I'll stop mentioning those, you already get the drift. No change.
48. 02:08:285 (3) - I think I'll also stop mentioning this 1/1 slider issue since you also get how it should work already. No change.
49. 04:06:057 (4) - Remove reverse and add circle instead. No change.
50. 04:11:714 (5) - Remove reverse, add circle at the start of the slider and start the actual slider at the red tick. No change.
    
    The design is good, and you seem to be mapping the vocals pretty well. Mapping to the music while no vocals are there feels lackluster, though. I think i mapped both thing pretty well, but i think u focused most on the hitsound's beat, and not the other beats.

Good luck with your map~ Thanks~ ^^

Secretpipe wrote:

Hey there.

We basically fixed the major rhythm issues and fixed some placement and stacks issues too!

Here's the log if anyone reclaim it:

log

21:01 Secretpipe: Checking this map later!
21:01 Secretpipe: Be here!
21:01 -Tochi: OK ^^
21:01 Secretpipe:  \o/
21:01 -Tochi: \:D/
21:02 Secretpipe: happeh?xD
21:02 *Secretpipe is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/527181 Starz ft Veela - Second Nature]
21:02 -Tochi: Im kinda excited xD
21:02 Secretpipe: xD
21:02 Secretpipe: Well , this doesn't mean I'm gonna icon this xD
21:03 -Tochi: I know xD
21:03 Secretpipe: *cough*
21:03 Secretpipe: I'll see :3333
21:03 -Tochi: ok o.o
21:03 Secretpipe: afk League hue
21:03 -Tochi: D:
21:03 -Tochi: ok xD
22:24 -Tochi: was it fun?
22:28 Secretpipe: I did a second
22:28 Secretpipe: almost finished
22:28 -Tochi: ah
22:39 Secretpipe: back
22:40 -Tochi: wb~
22:40 Secretpipe: ~
22:40 Secretpipe: lemme take a drink
22:40 -Tochi: ok
22:40 -Tochi: must be hard to play league
22:41 -Tochi: exhausting*
22:47 Secretpipe: xDD
22:48 -Tochi: what if u made some food, you forgot to turn it off
22:48 -Tochi: and....well, ur kitchen burned down, because u were in ur room
22:52 Secretpipe: and I just escaped from the kitchen
22:53 Secretpipe: link again plz
22:53 -Tochi: ok
22:54 -Tochi: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/226005
22:56 Secretpipe: play time!
22:56 -Tochi: ok :o
22:56 Secretpipe: im noob
22:56 -Tochi: im more....with mouse
22:59 Secretpipe: ohshit
22:59 Secretpipe: xD
22:59 -Tochi: Isn't this ur first map after league xD
22:59 Secretpipe: first map of the day lol
22:59 -Tochi: ok :o
23:00 Secretpipe: cool
23:02 Secretpipe: oooh
23:02 Secretpipe: nerves
23:02 Secretpipe: I'm falling in love with the song
23:02 -Tochi: xD
23:03 Secretpipe: oooo
23:03 Secretpipe: xD
23:04 -Tochi: xDD
23:06 Secretpipe: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2289307 :DD
23:06 Secretpipe: I DID IT
23:06 -Tochi: :D
23:06 -Tochi: you did better than before even with nofail :D
23:06 Secretpipe: xD
23:06 -Tochi: so you passed it without failing :D
23:07 Secretpipe: ye
23:07 Secretpipe: :D
23:07 Secretpipe: there's not nofail XD
23:08 Secretpipe: 00:17:542 (3,4,5) - this is bothering me
23:08 Secretpipe: I remember missed it two times
23:09 -Tochi: i don't really like it too tho
23:09 Secretpipe: the alignment of the triplet could be better or you can stack these notes
23:10 -Tochi: yees
23:10 Secretpipe: 00:17:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can see the parallelogramm shaped pattern here but 00:17:885 (1,2,3) - 's placement sound a bit random to me
23:11 -Tochi: ok
23:13 Secretpipe: 00:28:171 (3,4) - Curve this and make a blanket maybe?
23:14 Secretpipe: 00:28:857 (1,2,3) - If you follow the logic of your sliders , the 3rd one HAS to be similar in my opinion
23:14 -Tochi: good idea!
23:15 Secretpipe: 00:32:114 (2,3) - The rhythm here isn't following the song. Basically , you have this : slider+circle. You should select these circles and Ctrl+G them , it'll make "circle+slider"
23:15 Secretpipe: It'd be really better for the rhythm
23:17 -Tochi: ok
23:18 Secretpipe: 00:42:571 (1,2,3,4) - There's a rhythm issue here. the circles aren't following the synth I think
23:18 Secretpipe: 00:46:685 (1,2) - There's no linearity here , maybe try to do symmmetrical sliders?
23:21 Secretpipe: 01:00:228 (3) - Is it even in the rhythm?
23:21 Secretpipe: 01:02:285 (2) -  This slider isn't ugly but has nnothing of special. Make a better shape 
23:21 -Tochi: xD
23:22 Secretpipe: 01:11:885 (2) -  and 01:12:571 (4) -  remove, this sounds  abit overmapped. By removing this , you'll let the player breathe
23:22 Secretpipe: damn
23:23 -Tochi: ok :o
23:23 Secretpipe:  Tell me what you're fixing or not oAo
23:23 -Tochi: wait
23:23 Secretpipe: 01:36:742 (4) - Your sliderwave isn't perfect
23:23 -Tochi: the (4) is fine
23:24 -Tochi: i fixed everything except 01:12:571 (3) -
23:24 Secretpipe: well , I think that you must fix those things cause this is really important
23:24 Secretpipe: the map has issues with rhythm actually
23:24 -Tochi: ok :x
23:26 Secretpipe: Don't be annoyed
23:26 Secretpipe: It' up to you
23:26 Secretpipe: lol
23:26 -Tochi: i've heard rumors about the QAT
23:26 -Tochi: i not annoyed xD
23:26 Secretpipe: ":x"
23:26 -Tochi: i've heard the QAT is nazi
23:26 Secretpipe: 01:38:799 (1,3) - You could symmetrical those
23:26 Secretpipe: Well  , it's not QAT time actually cause your map hasn't any icon
23:27 Secretpipe: Just trying to help you to push it forward
23:27 -Tochi: ywa, i know, but when i come to that part
23:27 Secretpipe: 01:53:199 (3,4) - why these slider aren't aligned?
23:27 -Tochi: how should i symmetrical them?
23:29 -Tochi: ok, i fixed everything
23:31 Secretpipe: sure
23:32 Secretpipe: 02:15:142 (3,5) - this overlap is bothering me a bit but I guess that's fine 
23:32 Secretpipe: 02:30:057 (2) - That shape
23:32 Secretpipe: 02:42:057 (2,1,4) - There must be a symmetrical here too though
23:33 Secretpipe: 02:51:485 (3) - You should rotate it a bit cause of the extended slider, it doesn't go toward 02:51:999 (4) - 
23:35 Secretpipe: 03:56:457 (2,3) - You can stack these notes on the slider cause it's a bit akward when playing
23:35 Secretpipe: 03:55:942 (1,4) - a symmetrical could be better
23:35 Secretpipe: 03:58:685 (1,3) - It could be adjusted a bit
23:36 Secretpipe: 04:07:428 (2) - I thought it'll be blanketed by 04:06:914 (1) - and 04:07:599 (3) - 
23:36 Secretpipe: 04:15:142 (1) - What does that shape means ? xD
23:36 Secretpipe: 04:17:028 (1,2,3,4,5) - nice star :3
23:36 Secretpipe: 04:20:628 (1) - That wave is akward to play , it goes toward out of the screen xD
23:37 Secretpipe: 04:23:714 - I don't get why kiai start here with SB flashes
23:37 Secretpipe: 04:23:371 (1) - it has to begin here for being consistnet
23:38 Secretpipe: 04:24:057 (3,4) - maybe reduce 04:24:057 (3) - a bit and add a note at 04:24:314 - 
23:38 Secretpipe: 04:27:314 (1,3) - you could blanket them
23:39 Secretpipe: 05:07:257 (9,1,1) - you could alternate with another ending
23:39 Secretpipe: and I guess that's all
23:42 Secretpipe: you here?
23:43 -Tochi: yes
23:43 -Tochi: i finished it
23:43 -Tochi: i mean, i fixed it c:
23:43 Secretpipe: fixed what?
23:43 Secretpipe: xD
23:43 -Tochi: xD
23:43 -Tochi: LOL
23:43 Secretpipe: huh?
23:44 -Tochi: the things you think could be fixed xD
23:44 -Tochi: in my map xD
23:44 Secretpipe: all of them?
23:44 -Tochi: yes
23:44 Secretpipe: really?
23:44 Secretpipe: xD
23:44 -Tochi: YES :D
23:44 -Tochi: and that means i can update now?
23:45 Secretpipe: yeah
23:45 Secretpipe: It still needs polishment though
23:45 -Tochi: yea
23:46 Secretpipe: update

But the beatmap still need some polishment imo. Find two more mods , apply them and call me afterwards~

1. 00:00:057 (1) - why don't finish on head?
2. 00:00:742 (3) - finish on reverse? maybe you didn't add it intentional but hmm I think it's more fit when add it, if you agree, add all finish to every cymbal on music. you missed a lot.
3. 00:01:771 (3) - stack is not fit well imo, move 2 to another place? or stack with 00:01:257 (4) . it need to be a jump imo.
4. 00:05:371 (4,1) - the spacing are too close to each other imo because both are cymbal beat, increase distance or make it jump would more fit with music.
5. 00:07:771 - spread it to two notes and place a circle like this? or similar, slider is not fit with music very well on that part imo. jump and circle is more fit.
6. 00:26:114 (1) - move like this? that spacing is too close imo.
7. 00:27:314 (8) - what about move to 232|82 for make it jump to fit with music.
8. 00:38:457 (1) - suggest to stack with 00:38:114 (7) instead or further than recently beause it's weird if cymbal has more short spacing than normal beat.
9. 01:59:885 (3,4,5,6) - suggest to make these four have balance spacing, it will more playable.
10. 02:55:257 - why suddenlt normal-whistle? not fit at all imo.
11. 02:57:485 - change this green line to S:99 or something and doesn't have custom normal-hit to make the sound more calm.
12. 03:10:514 (4,2) - I know you want to make your own rhythm but if you remove this note and add note on 03:10:685 . it will be really fit as well.
13. 03:36:057 (5) - 292|292 and 03:35:714 (3,8) to 216|328 for better star symmetry.
14. 04:06:914 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/d9WmA/7e64ee608a.jpg
15. 04:34:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - these jump play weird. try this (sorry if force your style, you can reject it.)
    

    404,208,274342,5,4,0:0:0:0:
    220,264,274514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    404,308,274685,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    284,332,274857,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    324,176,275028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    404,308,275199,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    244,192,275371,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    424,112,275542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    332,268,275714,5,0,0:0:0:0:
    280,108,275885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    404,208,276057,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    192,260,276228,2,0,P|128:196|120:96,1,190

P A N wrote:

1. 00:00:057 (1) - why don't finish on head? Fixed!
2. 00:00:742 (3) - finish on reverse? maybe you didn't add it intentional but hmm I think it's more fit when add it, if you agree, add all finish to every cymbal on music. you missed a lot. Wow, it sounds good!
3. 00:01:771 (3) - stack is not fit well imo, move 2 to another place? or stack with 00:01:257 (4) . it need to be a jump imo. Fixed!
4. 00:05:371 (4,1) - the spacing are too close to each other imo because both are cymbal beat, increase distance or make it jump would more fit with music.I have no idea to fix that, and it's fine since there's a blanket for it.
5. 00:07:771 - spread it to two notes and place a circle like this? or similar, slider is not fit with music very well on that part imo. jump and circle is more fit. Fixed!
6. 00:26:114 (1) - move like this? that spacing is too close imo. Fixed!
7. 00:27:314 (8) - what about move to 232|82 for make it jump to fit with music. Fixed!
8. 00:38:457 (1) - suggest to stack with 00:38:114 (7) instead or further than recently beause it's weird if cymbal has more short spacing than normal beat. Fixed!
9. 01:59:885 (3,4,5,6) - suggest to make these four have balance spacing, it will more playable. Fixed!
10. 02:55:257 - why suddenlt normal-whistle? not fit at all imo. Fixed!
11. 02:57:485 - change this green line to S:99 or something and doesn't have custom normal-hit to make the sound more calm. Fixed!
12. 03:10:514 (4,2) - I know you want to make your own rhythm but if you remove this note and add note on 03:10:685 . it will be really fit as well. I'll keep this
13. 03:36:057 (5) - 292|292 and 03:35:714 (3,8) to 216|328 for better star symmetry. Fixed!
14. 04:06:914 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/d9WmA/7e64ee608a.jpg Fixed!
15. 04:34:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - these jump play weird. try this (sorry if force your style, you can reject it.) No, it good
    

    404,208,274342,5,4,0:0:0:0:
    220,264,274514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    404,308,274685,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    284,332,274857,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    324,176,275028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    404,308,275199,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    244,192,275371,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    424,112,275542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    332,268,275714,5,0,0:0:0:0:
    280,108,275885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    404,208,276057,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    192,260,276228,2,0,P|128:196|120:96,1,190

GL!

Thank you very much for the mod You modded it at the right time :p

Secretpipe wrote:

But the beatmap still need some polishment imo. Find two more mods , apply them and call me afterwards~

Kawatta wrote:

I love it, osu needs more good drum and bass beatmaps.
Good job Tochi!

Moecho wrote:

Requested mod~ Modding only for STD mode.

Second Nature

[Metadata]
Add tag "Starzz Music", "Liquid Drum & Bass" and maybe also "Josh Cambridge" (Starzz Music composer's real name). Fixed!

[BG]
Why not name background to "BG.jpg"? It would be more convient. (Just a suggestion, if you change, don't forget to change file name for BG in *.osu files) It caused some problems and stuff, if you gave me the .osb and .osu files, it would be perfect >.<

[Timing]
02:57:485 - What's this timing point? There is no real usage of having it set to SC:99, and there are no notes mapped from that point to next timing point, so why not just use S? xD Fixed!

[Storyboard]
01:16:857 - Maybe set fade a bit earlier? It feels kind of strange that it hasn't finished fading while already inside the section. Fixed!

[Mapping]
00:09:485 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - This section here, I recommend this timeline. Explaination: It feels nicer to click to a slider which starts on a white line than a red; Also that there is no real strong beat you click to if you have them on red line in this part. Fixed!

Image

00:20:628 (1,2,3,4,5) - This part is similar to the one above, try to make both sliders start on a white line than a red, how you place notes is up to you~ Fixed!

Image

01:29:028 (1,2) - Same here, slider on white line? Since red line doesn't really have any good rhythm for starting a slider. This one has a real point to be here.
01:48:228 (5,1) - Not necessary but recommend. (Same issue as above) Same as above
01:52:257 (6,7,8) - This doesn't fit very well, it sounds better if you just have note on 01:52:342 (7) only. This one is fine imo
02:34:085 (2,3,4) - Same as above. Same as above
02:24:057 (1,2) - Here too, it felt really wierd that slider started on red line, even tho there is a kick there, it still feels better if you start slider on 02:24:057 instead. not really

00:48:399 (2) - Imo that part fits better if you remove this note, and move 00:48:571 (3) a bit further to avoid confusion. Fixed!
00:51:828 (5) - A bit same with this one, if you feel it's a bit too empty, just make that slider to repeat once. Fixed!
01:34:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Nice pattern, but it's used in wrong place, I don't have any suggestion where you can put it instead but it doesn't fit well there, well...idk where to put it, and change. also, 01:34:857 (1,3,5,7) - these notes can be snapped a bit more from each other. It was confusing in play mode~ Fixed!

01:26:457 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream flow could be improved, or more rounded. At the moment it's kind of semi-round shaped and could be confusing(if they draw a circle but since it's not circle it can be a bit annoying too), suggestion could be that you make it more round, or make it more obvious that it's not more like fully round circle flow. Just a suggestion for this tho. Fixed!
02:16:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stream shape. Same as above. Fixed!
02:42:914 (7,1) - A bit wierd flow here, maybe try this? Fixed!

Image

00:42:228 (4,1) - Not a big spacing issue but I still recommend you to separate it a bit more. Fixed!
00:41:028 (5,1,2) - Also if you don't feel like moving them, you can put these notes to same position. What do you mean?
04:45:314 (1,2,3,4,2,3) - A bit too large jump between these notes here since the song is starting to tone down, as well as you have decreased speed multiplier for this section. Fixed!

01:23:371 (4,2) - Hm.. Not stacked properly? Fixed!

02:30:914 (1,3) - Why not 2 finish here while there was 2 finishes on 02:28:171 (1,2) ? Consistency is nice. Fixed!


[Random]
01:49:771 - Nice effect here, felt like whole map rotated a bit. Made it feel like 01:50:457 (4,5) rotated owo Thanks xD

Nice map, not far from ranked~ Good luck~ Thanks ^^

And thanks for the mod

Avishay wrote:

SPOILER

2014-11-29 18:08 -Tochi: Hi, do you mod maps?
2014-11-29 18:08 Avishay: Um.. I can mod maps yeah..
2014-11-29 18:09 -Tochi: do you take requests then?
2014-11-29 18:09 Avishay: maybe
2014-11-29 18:10 Avishay: depends on my mood I gues
2014-11-29 18:10 Avishay: I guess*
2014-11-29 18:10 -Tochi: ok
2014-11-29 18:10 -Tochi: wanna take a look at my map?
2014-11-29 18:10 Avishay: sure link it
2014-11-29 18:11 -Tochi: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/226005
2014-11-29 18:14 Avishay: /np
2014-11-29 18:14 Avishay: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/527181 Starz ft Veela - Second Nature [Third Nature]]
2014-11-29 18:14 -Tochi:
2014-11-29 18:15 Avishay: 00:10:514 (3,1) - they overlap a bit, it looks ugly Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:15 Avishay: 00:18:228 (3,5) - stack properly Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:16 Avishay: 00:28:514 (4,5,6,1) - try to line the stream with 4 in a better line What do you mean?
2014-11-29 18:17 Avishay: 00:52:514 (2,3) - CTRL + G them individualy, this part will play much nicer like that Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:18 Avishay: 01:02:285 (2,3) - stack properly Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:19 Avishay: 01:19:599 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - honestly, you can make the SV increase here slowly from 0.7 to 1 Nice idea, but i like this better ^^
2014-11-29 18:20 Avishay: 01:30:057 (5) - repeating slider starting on a red tick doesn't play that well most of the times, use a normal 1/2 slider instead of the circle (4) and remove the repeat here, it will be nicer Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:21 Avishay: 01:38:799 (1,3) - this pattern looks ugly together, consider modifying it Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:21 Avishay: 01:40:685 (3,5) - stack properly Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:22 Avishay: 01:47:714 (4,5,1) - the flow here is really bad, consider creating an other pattern I'll keep it as it is ^^
2014-11-29 18:22 Avishay: 01:55:257 (1,2) - stack properly Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:23 Avishay: 02:14:285 (5,2) - ^ Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:25 Avishay: 02:43:771 (4,5,6,1) - first of all, 4 and 6 aren't stacked properly, and the pattern 4,5,6 is creating a really weird spacing and it is really messy, try to modify it Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:26 Avishay: 02:47:371 (1,2) - they don't fit to anything, they came from nothing, no flow with other patterns and they don't contribute that well Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:26 Avishay: oh
2014-11-29 18:26 Avishay: actually my editor messed it up a bit
2014-11-29 18:26 Avishay: I guess I don't like the fact they overlap the previous sliders
2014-11-29 18:27 Avishay: but they have some connection to the next pattern, I missed it
2014-11-29 18:27 -Tochi: yea
2014-11-29 18:28 Avishay: 03:07:085 (2) - it sounds much better if it starts a slider Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:28 Avishay: 03:09:828 (2) - same here Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:29 Avishay: 03:20:114 (7,1,2,3) - really messy spacing again Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:30 Avishay: 03:36:742 (1) - place a much much softer hitsound on the end of the spinner, the clap / whistle unfits Keeping it.
2014-11-29 18:31 Avishay: 04:14:114 (2,3) - stack properly Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:32 Avishay: 04:30:742 (3,1) - don't overlap Fixed!
2014-11-29 18:32 -Tochi: ok
2014-11-29 18:33 Avishay: well that's it, the map is really well done and there wasn't much I could note out of it
2014-11-29 18:33 -Tochi: ok, thank you
2014-11-29 18:34 -Tochi: u gonna post it, right?
2014-11-29 18:37 Avishay: yeah I will

SpajdeR wrote:

Great map! Go Tochi! \o/

1. Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For most uses (e.g. full-screen images), the maximum is 800x600 pixels for 4:3 aspect ratio images, although 640x480 is highly preferred. For widescreen mode (recommended) the maximum is 960x540 pixels for 16:9 aspect ratio images and 960x600 for 16:10 images. The editor is 640x480 at default, so there's really no need to use anything larger for full-screen purposes.
   
   Every image you used in storyboard is 1364×767.
   
   
2. There must not be any unused files in the map's folder except for the map's .osb file (since they sometimes get added even if the map doesn't have a storyboard) and storyboard .thumb files (since they are automatically created in image directories). Unused files add extra file size which is unnecessary.
   
   The following hitsound is unused:
   
   1. normal-slidertick2.wav
3. Chances are the title is wrong. It's either missing a period after "ft" or should be completely different, according to artist's SC (https://soundcloud.com/starzzmusic/second-nature, obviously without "Please read description!")
   

1. Remove dripping and slurping hitsounds at all (all hitnormals), as they don't fit the clear tune music provides. What made you think using hitsounds from popular skins is a good idea?
   
   
2. Re-do hitsounding on some parts; example is hi-hats (finish) spam in the very beginning of the map and, say, 04:01:428, or random unfitting hitsounds like these on 03:36:742 (1) -
   
   
3. Get your new combo markup more consistent; most, if not all of your new combos should be tied to big white ticks and never — to patterns. Don't also jump between different ticks or the main beat and vocals when setting new combos;
   
   
4. Do not add unnecessary triplets, especially when vocals don't call for it, and neither does the drum line; example is 02:17:885 (3,4,5)
   
   
5. Between jumps, use the same spacing multiplier. Stick to it and don't change often, unless you have a real reason to do so;
   
   
6. Do not overmap! Things like 02:16:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a stream when there's none in the music - or 02:19:599 (5,6) - absolutely unnecessary and dumb 1/4 slider jump (man, there's even no 1/4!) - or 01:37:942 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - or 01:52:257 (6,7,8) - the list goes on! - are unacceptable and seriously damage your map in terms of fitness and following the music;
   
   
7. Think of a better way to denote speed-ups. 01:19:599 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is not ANY different from 01:22:342 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - while it should be;
   
   
8. Polish your stream curves more. some of them may look like eggs;
   
   
9. Think of better patterns. Stuff like 01:34:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - or 01:46:171 (3,4,5,6,7) - or 01:59:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - not only plays awkward, but looks awkward and unfitting, too;
   
   
10. 02:11:714 (1,2,3,4) - avoid copypasting and using the same patterns with only slight alterations;
    
    
11. Think of a better name for the difficulty. "Third Nature" looks silly with the song's title and doesn't have any real meaning;
    
    
12. I doubt you designed your storyboard to have random blackouts from time to time. You could also think of better transition effects.

TicClick wrote:

1. Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For most uses (e.g. full-screen images), the maximum is 800x600 pixels for 4:3 aspect ratio images, although 640x480 is highly preferred. For widescreen mode (recommended) the maximum is 960x540 pixels for 16:9 aspect ratio images and 960x600 for 16:10 images. The editor is 640x480 at default, so there's really no need to use anything larger for full-screen purposes.
   
   Every image you used in storyboard is 1364×767.
   
   
2. There must not be any unused files in the map's folder except for the map's .osb file (since they sometimes get added even if the map doesn't have a storyboard) and storyboard .thumb files (since they are automatically created in image directories). Unused files add extra file size which is unnecessary.
   
   The following hitsound is unused:
   
   1. normal-slidertick2.wav
3. Chances are the title is wrong. It's either missing a period after "ft" or should be completely different, according to artist's SC (https://soundcloud.com/starzzmusic/second-nature, obviously without "Please read description!")

via





Now about the quality part. This map is far from receiving a bubble and needs to be worked on. You may want to:

1. Remove dripping and slurping hitsounds at all (all hitnormals), as they don't fit the clear tune music provides. What made you think using hitsounds from popular skins is a good idea?
   
   
2. Re-do hitsounding on some parts; example is hi-hats (finish) spam in the very beginning of the map and, say, 04:01:428, or random unfitting hitsounds like these on 03:36:742 (1) -
   
   
3. Get your new combo markup more consistent; most, if not all of your new combos should be tied to big white ticks and never — to patterns. Don't also jump between different ticks or the main beat and vocals when setting new combos;
   
   
4. Do not add unnecessary triplets, especially when vocals don't call for it, and neither does the drum line; example is 02:17:885 (3,4,5)
   
   
5. Between jumps, use the same spacing multiplier. Stick to it and don't change often, unless you have a real reason to do so;
   
   
6. Do not overmap! Things like 02:16:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a stream when there's none in the music - or 02:19:599 (5,6) - absolutely unnecessary and dumb 1/4 slider jump (man, there's even no 1/4!) - or 01:37:942 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - or 01:52:257 (6,7,8) - the list goes on! - are unacceptable and seriously damage your map in terms of fitness and following the music;
   
   
7. Think of a better way to denote speed-ups. 01:19:599 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is not ANY different from 01:22:342 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - while it should be;
   
   
8. Polish your stream curves more. some of them may look like eggs;
   
   
9. Think of better patterns. Stuff like 01:34:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - or 01:46:171 (3,4,5,6,7) - or 01:59:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - not only plays awkward, but looks awkward and unfitting, too;
   
   
10. 02:11:714 (1,2,3,4) - avoid copypasting and using the same patterns with only slight alterations;
    
    
11. Think of a better name for the difficulty. "Third Nature" looks silly with the song's title and doesn't have any real meaning;
    
    
12. I doubt you designed your storyboard to have random blackouts from time to time. You could also think of better transition effects.

Each item is only an example and not a full list of mistakes of that kind.
Secretpipe, why?

TicClick wrote:

1. Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For most uses (e.g. full-screen images), the maximum is 800x600 pixels for 4:3 aspect ratio images, although 640x480 is highly preferred. For widescreen mode (recommended) the maximum is 960x540 pixels for 16:9 aspect ratio images and 960x600 for 16:10 images. The editor is 640x480 at default, so there's really no need to use anything larger for full-screen purposes. fixed!
   
   Every image you used in storyboard is 1364×767.
   
   
2. There must not be any unused files in the map's folder except for the map's .osb file (since they sometimes get added even if the map doesn't have a storyboard) and storyboard .thumb files (since they are automatically created in image directories). Unused files add extra file size which is unnecessary.
   
   The following hitsound is unused:
   
   1. normal-slidertick2.wav
   fixed!
   
   
3. Chances are the title is wrong. It's either missing a period after "ft" or should be completely different, according to artist's SC (https://soundcloud.com/starzzmusic/second-nature, obviously without "Please read description!")

fixed!
via





Now about the quality part. This map is far from receiving a bubble and needs to be worked on. You may want to:

1. Remove dripping and slurping hitsounds at all (all hitnormals), as they don't fit the clear tune music provides. What made you think using hitsounds from popular skins is a good idea? I got the clap from Aka, but the finish was from my skin, and i thought it would be fine to use in this map.
   
   
2. Re-do hitsounding on some parts; example is hi-hats (finish) spam in the very beginning of the map and, say, 04:01:428, or random unfitting hitsounds like these on 03:36:742 (1) - I will reset all objects samples, and start from the beginning.
   
   
3. Get your new combo markup more consistent; most, if not all of your new combos should be tied to big white ticks and never — to patterns. Don't also jump between different ticks or the main beat and vocals when setting new combos; Fixed
   
   
4. Do not add unnecessary triplets, especially when vocals don't call for it, and neither does the drum line; example is 02:17:885 (3,4,5) fixed!
   
   
5. Between jumps, use the same spacing multiplier. Stick to it and don't change often, unless you have a real reason to do so; The most is the same DS, and the others that isn't is because it has a reason.
   
   
6. Do not overmap! Things like 02:16:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a stream when there's none in the music - or 02:19:599 (5,6) - absolutely unnecessary and dumb 1/4 slider jump (man, there's even no 1/4!) - or 01:37:942 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fixed! or 01:52:257 (6,7,8) - This is fine imo, idk think it's overmapped. I confirmed it too when i asked a BAT lol the list goes on! - are unacceptable and seriously damage your map in terms of fitness and following the music;
   
   
7. Think of a better way to denote speed-ups. 01:19:599 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is not ANY different from 01:22:342 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - while it should be; fixed!
   
   
8. Polish your stream curves more. some of them may look like eggs; Already got this, already fixed. There's like only 2 streams over 10 notes, and they look perfectly fine. And the others plays well too.
   
   
9. Think of better patterns. Stuff like 01:34:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - or 01:46:171 (3,4,5,6,7) - or 01:59:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - not only plays awkward, but looks awkward and unfitting, too; fixed!
   
   
10. 02:11:714 (1,2,3,4) - avoid copypasting and using the same patterns with only slight alterations; It's fine like this, it doesn't play bad or something, but i'll remember to next time.
    
    
11. Think of a better name for the difficulty. "Third Nature" looks silly with the song's title and doesn't have any real meaning; fixed!
    
    
12. I doubt you designed your storyboard to have random blackouts from time to time. You could also think of better transition effects. Im foing to delete the SB since im still new at it.

Each item is only an example and not a full list of mistakes of that kind. Yea, i know
Secretpipe, why?

[ Joey ] wrote:

Hello, m4m. I forgot to mod you map before I went out of town. I'm sorry No problem ^^

General
Note placement / positioning could use a lot of work. I won't go into much detail about it in this mod, but I recommend looking at your favorite maps and taking ideas from them. I'll remember that, i might remap some places to fix the most.

A lot of parts are overmapped Damn.

Third Nature

I did reset the samples, so all the hitsound suggestion will be ignored, but thanks!

00:04:514 - I wouldn't skip this clap
00:04:685 - I would do more of a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dd5sy/e45982c020.jpg That sounds a bit weird imo.
00:05:371 (5,1) - The music calls for a larger jump here. Look for things like this throughout the rest of your beatmap Fixed!
00:14:799 (3,4,5) - You are overmapping by using triples like these. Try to go more to the music Fixed!
00:17:542 (3,4,5) - ^ Fixed!
*A small note on using triples: Triples should start on red-ticks most of the time. Sounds a lot better Yeah,
00:38:114 (7,1) - Overlaps like this are pretty ugly. You have overlaps everywhere in your map, which gives it a very messy look. Some people don't mind, but I don't like it =/ There will be no change here since the pattern is good.
01:26:457 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Add some reverse sliders in here so its not just a loooong stream. No change.
02:16:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Really overmapped. There isn't anything in the music that calls for a stream Fixed!

So yeah, I would say the biggest problems with you map is your overmapping, and object placement. Okay.
Listen really hard to the music and try not to add too many random notes. Okay, thanks for the tips

Good luck with your map Thanks!

Kocari wrote:

Here as requested from meh modding queue.

[Natural]

00:10:857 (6) - Form a triangle with this note for better cursor movement to the next slider (Fixed) http://puu.sh/dhE8e/75801c9974.jpg Fixed
00:29:885 (4,5) - I did this and though it was pretty cool and challenging at once =) Only an idea though (Fixed) http://puu.sh/dhEfW/da16cb896d.jpg No change, it's too hard to read in this part because it's the only place with this thing.
00:42:571 (1,2) - Possible stackage on the note before that is fading Fixed
I really can't find issues on this, it was a well done map. No kudos for this because it's a bad mod imo. Only if you insist. I will try to gather more insight on songs like these to mod later for personal use in the future. If something comes up I will try to remod your map with great intentions. All the errors were possible fixed by this time, but Thanks for your time Thank you very much for the mod The things u modded is very helpful, even if it's just suggestion, or a little thing. And thanks for the support ^^

lovehina99 wrote:

I JUST GAVE YOU ALL MY KUDOSU!!! I love this map btw xD