Heatherfield wrote:

No more aiaiclala fans club.

http://puu.sh/i11LW/0a8bb2f10b.osr
很久不做full mod了,贴个1pc的rep吧

主要问题在于slider速度,方向,间距的把握,另外有些遮挡有点刻意为之的感觉,趣味性较低并且在长图中令人生气
本来175+1.8的sv就比较快,这种情况下突然变成0.5x的速度可能要尤其小心,而且很多地方的1.5x显得过快了(特别是非kiai段)
另外有个小问题:NC有点过多

00:55:262 (2) - add note
01:03:147 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - 看起来还可以打起来就很别扭了
01:06:233 (2) - add note
02:08:976 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 这段NC很没有道理
正常NC的话就02:09:662 (4) - 02:10:347 (3) - 02:11:033 (3) - 把02:10:862 (1,2) - 换成note 改了
跟3/2音的话就在02:09:490 (2) - 02:10:004 (8) - 02:10:347 (3) - 02:11:547 (9) - 不过效果好像并不好
kiai段很多slider之间的距离在这个sv下显得短了 改了
02:26:290 (2,3) - 打起来还可以接受然而并不好看
02:31:519 (3) - 并不能懂
05:49:433 (2,3) - 贴太近不好看 可以稍微拉远点 改了
简单看了一遍,重复的问题就不说了.

音效还挺nice的.
GOOD LUCK.

bigjoe97 wrote:

Random mod from a noob mapper

Fantastic map, I thought. The SV changes were done well for the most part, although there were a few that I found to be a bit awkward when playing. I have managed to improve it though...tell me if you got some good idea.

00:54:919 (1) - I'd 'resume' mapping here, instead of 1.5 beats in like you currently have it. This was weird and threw me off the first couple times I went through the map. Maybe a couple 1/2 circles could work here. no..
01:00:062 (1,2) - Align with the sides of the triangle underneath? no..
01:02:804 (1,2) - Ctrl+G and Ctrl+J the next slider for better flow no..
01:04:519 (1,2) - I'd make slider velocity equal to 01:05:204 (1) (extend the slider if necessary) and get rid of the hitcircle no..
01:05:204 (1) - End on red tick and add circles at 01:05:890 and 01:06:062 no..
01:49:776 (1) - Start spinner here instead? yes!
02:08:976 (1,2,3,4) - Straight line instead? These looked like 1/2 circles at first glance. no..it's more fun this way
02:26:462 (3,4) - Ctrl G no..
02:28:690 (1,2,3) - Ctrl G no..
02:38:890 (1,2,3,4) - Ctrl H to improve circular flow into the next combo changed the hitcircle after that
02:40:862 (4,5,6) - Breaks flow - you could probably manage to continue the circular flow from this combo into the next one at 02:41:547 (1) i managed to improve it in my way, hope you like it
03:46:347 (2) - NC here instead of at 03:46:176 (1) sure, it's so chariness of you!

Honestly nothing past there, the second kiai was fantastic.

Sorry if this was complete crap, I'm stiil a noob.

monstrata wrote:

placeholder. I haven't forgotten! (Also i remember modding this map a long time ago)

Quality looks pretty good to me so you can probably expect a bubble after i finish my mod. I'll try and get it done today or tomorrow sry for delays lol.

1. 00:41:204 (1,1) - The stacks are off if you want to fix/
2. 01:22:690 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This part just felt really empty for me The music is very similar (if not the same) as the previous section so the change in density is a bit odd.
3. 02:08:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This feels really overdone...
4. 02:26:290 (2,3) - Are they supposed to be this close together? I feel like you should Ctrl+G 3 and 4 and this is a mistake...
5. 02:37:433 (4,5,6) - This kind of movement is just too flow-breaking.
6. 02:50:976 (1) - This slider is off-screen.
7. 02:54:919 (1) - You should really use these blue colors more often for slowdowns like 02:49:433 (1) - . Grey isn't that noticeable since you use dark/grey colors as your normal combo colors.
8. 03:34:347 - Same thing i mentioned about parts being empty.
9. 04:30:919 (4) - Removing the repeat and just adding a circle on 04:31:262 - would play a bit better imo. Rhythm will be more straightforward.
10. 05:01:776 (1) - As cool as this slider is, i really doubt it'll pass qualified because the slider path is way too difficult to read.
11. 05:34:004 (1,1,2,3,4) - This is going to be very difficult to read because the spacing looks like it;s 1/2 You can compare it to the spacing of 05:33:319 (2,3) - right before and you'll see why its hard to read.

monstrata wrote:

[E.T.]

1. 00:41:204 (1,1) - The stacks are off if you want to fix/ Sure!!!
2. 01:22:690 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This part just felt really empty for me The music is very similar (if not the same) as the previous section so the change in density is a bit odd. As you said, I managed to remapped those part
3. 02:08:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This feels really overdone... I was hesitated too when first using this pattern, but afterwards the testplays show it's fun for most players. but since you pointed this out, I changed the first five notes that used to overlapped on the stream. However, there is only one long stream in this map, so I'd like to emphasize it. And now it's not hard to read, it's just space changing. Please I just want to keep the flower TAT
4. 02:26:290 (2,3) - Are they supposed to be this close together? I feel like you should Ctrl+G 3 and 4 and this is a mistake... umm...02:26:290 (2,3) - is placed to be the same as the order of 02:25:604 (2,3) - ;w; Is that okay?
5. 02:37:433 (4,5,6) - This kind of movement is just too flow-breaking. Changed
6. 02:50:976 (1) - This slider is off-screen. Moved it
7. 02:54:919 (1) - You should really use these blue colors more often for slowdowns like 02:49:433 (1) - . Grey isn't that noticeable since you use dark/grey colors as your normal combo colors. Since the bg in the second kiai time turns blue, and main combo color there also turns blue so I can't really always use blue as slowdowns...I asked the one who made the combo color for me, he said blue here is used as a sign of the changing between different parts.
8. 03:34:347 - Same thing i mentioned about parts being empty. Remapped
9. 04:30:919 (4) - Removing the repeat and just adding a circle on 04:31:262 - would play a bit better imo. Rhythm will be more straightforward. Sure
10. 05:01:776 (1) - As cool as this slider is, i really doubt it'll pass qualified because the slider path is way too difficult to read. Okay, I replaced it with a spinner
11. 05:34:004 (1,1,2,3,4) - This is going to be very difficult to read because the spacing looks like it;s 1/2 You can compare it to the spacing of 05:33:319 (2,3) - right before and you'll see why its hard to read. I think players can recognize the different jump by the music (testplay is fine XD), and 05:12:062 (1,1,2,3,4) - and 05:23:033 (1,1,2,3) - have similar spacing like 05:34:004 (1,1,2,3,4) - , so I think that's fine XD

Very creative map. It's definitely edgy and some design elements forego playability, but I think theres enough quality here. Call me back after you've responded to all the points above^Thank you sooooo much>3333

Default wrote:

Some small suggestions;

[E.T.]

02:26:290 (2,3) - Maybe move 3 a bit down? They are too close. oh! I'll consider it!

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04:49:433 (1,2,3,4) - I think these 4 notes should be a bit more spaced. I want to compare them to 04:50:119 (1,2,3,4) - _(:зゝ∠)_ so that 04:50:119 (1,2,3,4) - can be emphasized.
05:01:090 (1) - This slider is a bit hard to read, I think it looks and plays better like this: this is supposed to be drag like a ♪...

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Also suggested some changes on the spinners a while ago to make them easier to pass with hr, in case you want to give me kds of course!!!!

Lumael wrote:

Interesting mapping :3 Have a star!

monstrata wrote:

Uh, Check AiMod

1. Offset(62) is a bit late，try 48~50.

1. 00:43:690 (1) –这个到00:43:947 (1) –的间距大，很突兀。
2. 02:49:433 (1,1,1) –不建议突然切换到跟人声，况且这首曲子根本就不适合跟人声。尤其是你这个02:50:462 –重要的鼓点被滑条覆盖掉导致很没打击感，跟的人声节奏并不合演奏也没整体性。整个音乐里KIAI的演奏强弱是几乎一样的，而你使用了从大跳到急刹车，并不符合音乐的气氛。后面似乎还有几个类似的。
3. 06:10:690 (1,2,3) –(2)这个滑条起在了弱拍蓝线，还和1间距那么大，却把06:11:033 -白线置于滑条尾，并不符合音乐氛围打击感也弱。由于滑条尾表现力虚弱，一般是弱音，滑条尾到圈的跳用的比较多因为不难打，存在尾低判定，于是06:10:947 (2,3) – 这种排列一般是1/4的三连音，1/4滑条起于红线收于蓝线，圈在白线。而你现在这样摆会被误读为2跟3之间是1/4的间隔。
4. 02:31:262 (2,3) -^

Fycho wrote:

[General]

1. Offset(62) is a bit late，try 48~50. 谢谢纠正，改成了49

[E.T.]

1. 00:43:690 (1) –这个到00:43:947 (1) –的间距大，很突兀。 这个没改 因为觉得00:43:947 (1) –这里的嚓音很强
2. 02:49:433 (1,1,1) –不建议突然切换到跟人声，况且这首曲子根本就不适合跟人声。尤其是你这个02:50:462 –重要的鼓点被滑条覆盖掉导致很没打击感，跟的人声节奏并不合演奏也没整体性。整个音乐里KIAI的演奏强弱是几乎一样的，而你使用了从大跳到急刹车，并不符合音乐的气氛。后面似乎还有几个类似的。 一共有三处这样的地方，我按照你的建议改了前两处，最后一处人声非常突出且过渡到了结尾就没有改了
3. 06:10:690 (1,2,3) –(2)这个滑条起在了弱拍蓝线，还和1间距那么大，却把06:11:033 -白线置于滑条尾，并不符合音乐氛围打击感也弱。由于滑条尾表现力虚弱，一般是弱音，滑条尾到圈的跳用的比较多因为不难打，存在尾低判定，于是06:10:947 (2,3) – 这种排列一般是1/4的三连音，1/4滑条起于红线收于蓝线，圈在白线。而你现在这样摆会被误读为2跟3之间是1/4的间隔。 谢谢，全曲一共八处这样的地方，我都改了，包括节奏下法和摆放
4. 02:31:262 (2,3) -^ 同上

Above are suggestions, not checked the map completely. You may call beatmap nominators for rebubble #1 if you take something.
加油 谢谢你，我会加油的∑(っ °Д °;)っ

Echoy wrote:

真实情况就是因为玩物丧失我错过了一次考研机会

Narcissu wrote:

Echoy wrote:

真实情况就是因为玩物丧失我错过了一次考研机会

↓↓↓

真实情况就是因为玩物丧志我错过了一次考研机会

Karen wrote:

Are you still alive? I'd like to push this map forward.

Karen wrote:

[General]

1. Files unused:
   {sb\thanks to\v.png}
2. Unused hitsounds:
   {normal-hitclap.wav} {soft-hitwhitstle6.wav}

[E.T.]

1. 00:53:020 (4) - 音效不要加到滑条身体上，不然会有滋的一声很难听
2. 01:15:820 (1,1) - 这么快的滑条，打完会有甩出去的惯性，所以下一个物件叠在尾巴上不怎么合适，移远一点
3. 01:21:306 (1,1) - 这也有一点，而且叠滑条头尾看起来不错但是实际上很丑，两个滑条都碰擦了，跟前面的blanket十分不搭调
4. 03:27:820 (1) - 03:33:306 (1) - ^
5. 01:55:077 - 钢琴在这，转盘在这停比较好，如果可以的话加个音效
6. 04:49:420 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这个差距实在太大了，要么前四个扩大一点，要么后四个缩小一点，突然这么大的距离达不到这个梗的效果。。

不想说太多，十分独特的风格，搞完了我来泡。

BeatofIke wrote:

4 month old bubble...
Call me back if you are still alive.

BeatofIke wrote:

Your soft-hitwhitstle6.wav is usused and your normal-hitclap4 has delays (replace with this one)
Also, your flash.png, darkness.png, THUNDER2.PNG, THUNDER1.PNG are too big. Maybe reduce these images to 1366x768.

Other than that, good map. Call me back, so I can re-check and add 2nd bubble =w=b

Hula wrote:

Hi there, I just saw this map and thought that it needed more attention, so I hope I can help out

Also, please use tick rate 2 actually cos of hi hats.

00:22:591 - , 00:23:277 - the song strongly relies on the hi hat for its rhythm, like it's super obvious, how come you haven't placed an object here? It sounds really empty [Through this whole section]
00:30:049 (9) - Why is there a clap on the slider end?
00:24:563 (3,1) - Why is this DS slightly less than the previous, when it should be obviously more, it has a 'stalling' effect.
00:26:020 (7) - Now you introduce actually mapping this hi-hat here, though for no real reason, cos you could've done it earlier in that bar, it's a random introduction, just include it from the beginning.
00:27:477 (1) - Spacing?
00:32:963 (1,2) - The flow here is unnecessarily awkward. It would be better to have a more straight forward pattern where objects lead onto each other in a much more standard/intuitive manner giving the stage of the song we're in.
00:30:906 (3,4,5) - What's the reason for the spacing to stay the same?
00:33:649 (3,4,5) - ^But it doesn't stay the same here
00:34:677 (2,3) - Spacing?
00:41:191 (1) - This could be executed much better
00:43:677 (1) - Have the spinner end earlier and just have it 1/4 circles going into the slider instead
00:46:334 (1,2,3,4,5) - These 'whistles' (who in their right mind puts these in Finish combo? >_>) are awfully loud and probably could do with being quietened down in audacity.
00:46:677 (1) - NC instead? Just stick to simple NC every bar? Idk why you're constantly NCing the red tick straight after each downbeat.
00:45:649 (1,2,3,4) - I'm confused by the spacing. The 1-2 has really high spacing, yet compared to 2-3 there is less in the music, yet you haven't emphasised 2-3 at all. I recommend 1-2 being low ds and 2,3,4 being higher DS.
00:46:849 (2) - Why are you stacking here?
00:47:020 (3) - Why is there a finish on the slider end? This is really misleading in terms of rhythm and sounds bad.
00:49:420 (5) - Why this hitsound? I can't hear any substantial change in the song for this, it just seems odd
00:49:591 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - You were mapping the rhythms of the song up until this point, at which you seemingly stopped caring about the rhythm and just spammed 1/2 circles with poor spacing.
00:52:163 (1) - Odd hitsound randomly again - Remember hitsounds are for player feedback and are best used consistently and not just as a one off feature =]
00:53:020 (4) - Not a fan of stacking kicks and claps onto one slider
00:57:991 (3) - These finishes on the slider ends sound really bad, sorry.
01:03:134 (1,1,1,1) - Very confused by the use of decreasing slider velocities here, I would have imagined fast sliders going around in a flowy pattern somehow. Not a slow and reducing spacing/velocity
01:04:506 (1,1) - Bit drastic SV change?
Also, I think you should use slider tick 2 here and maybe you could also hitsound some slider ticks which go over the top of kicks and claps?
01:11:363 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Once again, strange choice of rhythm for no reason. Cos it doesn't follow anything
01:28:506 (1) - Why the clap?
01:29:877 (5) - Why the finish whistle thing? Like this whole section is plagued by odd hitsound pattern and is really way too loud
01:43:934 (6) - not even blanket
01:47:706 (7) - polish thing where you could make this section look super neat and not have anything overlap at all :p
01:48:563 (2,3,4,5,6) - You can have this looking better executed and with proper use of editor tools by rotating 2,3 objects by 120 and 240 degrees for a proper triangle, it would end up like this -

SPOILER

01:51:820 - Might as well delete this forest of green lines
01:55:249 (1) - put soft whistle on it?
02:00:734 (1) - like the last section, I think this hitsound patterning is very odd and is also way too loud
02:08:963 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Inaudible, especially considering the hitsound volumes prior. The whole stream is compeltely overmap with no basis of 1/4.

02:11:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sorry, but this should not even be ranked.

I am a bit perplexed why you would use normal-hitnormal in the kiais though, seeming as you have put a lot of effort into finding custom hitsounds and all.

02:16:506 (1) - Very odd, you're kinda making things up in the song with this hitsound at this point, and I personally think that's the cardinal sin of hitsounding, is when you start making your own rhythms up with it. I say this cos the sound ends up justifying the slider, without the hitosund the slider doesn't have a place imo.
02:19:849 (4) - Why is this a clap?
02:21:991 (1) - What's the jusitifcation of this hitsound?
02:22:334 (3,4,5,6,1) - All of a sudden you've changed how you're mapping these hi hats for no reason, I think you should keep to one thing, at least within sections on this song. (Use your soft finish whistle thing)
02:24:391 (3,5) - Both these sliders should be further than 1.0 ds from their previous objects, they have both a clap and vocal on them.
02:27:477 (1) - hitsound thing like mentioned earlier
02:31:249 (2,3,4) - ?
02:41:791 (4) - Why is there a clap?
02:44:963 (2,3,4) - I am confused by the constant use of this spaced 1/4 here, I don't think it really fits with the map as a whole, it's too spaced, shitmiss baity and too accelerating. A stacked 3,4 plays much better (this comment is for previous and future ones)
02:47:534 (2,2) - Could avoid that overlap
02:49:420 (1) - WHOAH. All of a sudden you change like all your hitsound samples, the song hasn't changed that drastically. You change to hi hat ones, soft sample set, different clap, like damn.
02:52:849 (2) - Missing hitsound
02:55:934 - Missing object
02:57:649 (2) - Strange hitsound and I'm not a fan of this slider mimmicking the previous 2 sliders because 02:56:449 (4,4) - both do the kick and clap right, but this one does a different part of the rhythm, but it rotates by just as much and seemingly is meant to represent the same part of the rhythm, but it doesn't.
02:58:849 (2) - Why this random finish again?
03:01:077 (1) - Once again, random finish. Sure, you might have used it a minute prior and might be in the same spot or whatever, but it's too far in distance from last used to be called consistent in this scenario .
03:03:991 (2) - Not a fan of you starting a slider on this red tick of nothingness and ending on the clap, takes away any emphasis on the rhythm of the song.
03:08:620 (4) - Another random whistle >_>
03:09:220 (4) - This clap again, it doesn't have a place here.
03:09:649 (3) - Same with this finish
03:12:220 (2,3) - Why this spacing? 2-3 should be the bigger spacing.
03:16:163 (1) - You use this hitsound here, but the prior use of this was on a really slow slider, but this time it's used on a really fast slider, it's too inconsistent.
03:23:021 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Once again, this rhythm is too underwhelming and doesn't represent the song well enough, especially considering that this map is explicitly an extra and doesn't need dumbed down rhythms. If you were thinking the rhythms of the song weren't making an exciting map btw, map a more interesting song (i like the song btw).

03:25:421 (2,1) - So, this map is kind of plagued as a whole with this sort of thing, notice how the flow from the slider into the 1 is broken, like it looks and plays just not quite right? The map is littered with sort of thing, as if patterns were made and just stuck together as individuals, it often doesn't feel like a cohesive map. I thought I'd bring this up here randomly, since I didn't want to make an essay about it .

03:39:477 (1) - Strange use of claps in this section considering there's only a constant piano rhythm, a soft whistle spam would be more appropriate. This whole section could even be unmapped, I think it would be okay personally since it's such a dull rhythm to map interestingly for like 21 seconds
04:23:020 (6,1) - Gross overlap
04:23:363 (1) - This should be a faster slider if anything

04:50:791 (1,1,1) - Random rhythm in the buildup. It breaks the flow. If you keep them use the same slider shape and use ctrl+shift+S on them and decrease size

04:57:991 (3,6) - Blanket
05:01:077 (1) - This is ugly lol
05:07:249 (1) - Intrusive hitsound

05:07:591 (1,2,3) - This is how the previous kiai should have been spaced with these 1/4 imo.

05:09:820 (3) - Unnecessary clap -
05:12:049 (1) - Once again, I really don't agree with this use of hitsound and slow slider - I won't mention this again cos I think I made myself clear on this one.
05:15:305 (5) - Unnecessary clap
05:21:477 (2,3) - Gross overlap
05:40:162 (7,8) - This is very ugly and not a pattern, it looks very unpolished.
05:40:849 (2,3) - Use same sliders
05:20:620 (5) - Clap on slider end is unnecessary
05:26:277 (3) - Unecessary clap - I won't mention these again - you should remove all these claps that land on this tick
05:32:449 (1,2) - Suddenly you use this rhythm instead of circles, why?
05:43:591 (1,2,3,4) - Proper square please
05:43:934 (3,4,1) - This spacing is bad, 4-1 should be the increase in spacing
05:44:106 (4) - Unnecessary clap
05:44:963 (1) - Why have you changed clap? It's unnecessary and is very surprising, it's a louder clap than the kiai. Also, in this section reduce the volume, it's 100% and the loudest of all the song, lol.
05:52:420 (1,2) - Stack
05:57:991 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Once again, I'm not a fan of this choice of rhythm here for no reason. Also this pattern could be executed much more tidily with no overlaps etc.
05:59:191 (2,3,1) - This whole spacing here feels very odd, coupled with the unnecessary changing hitsounds you apply every couple of downbeats
06:00:049 (1) - Remove these hitsounds, the song once again isn't doing anything interesting to warrant such hitsounds
06:19:934 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Why this rhythm again
06:22:506 (2,3) - Really broken play, doesn't flow at all.
06:22:506 (2,3,1,2,3) - The spacing here is just really odd to play, like I don't understand it .
06:23:706 (1,2,3,4,5) - This has no reason to be like this, it's ugly, it's deliberately for gimmick and will cause people to shitmiss and not enjoy the map.
06:26:791 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This is wholly underwhelming in terms of spacing
06:28:849 (1,1,1) - Poor choice of rhythm here.
06:44:106 (1,2,5) - Could be made neater
06:50:106 (5,6,7) - This is an example of poor flow
06:52:163 (3,1) - Space more



On the whole, some interesting ideas, not executed greatly though, since the map doesn't seem to use the tools there which would make nice neat patterns instead of messy ones by freehand. Also, on a whole I noticed that the flow between patterns felt very disjointed a lot of the time which leads to uncomfortable and unenjoyable play. This is caused by you changing the direction of flow so drastically so frequently and don't take into consideration which way the cursor is moving.

The hitsounds could also do with a rework. The song doesn't need fancy random whistles and cymbal crashes which you've added in, they feel really out of place and a bit silly, I recommend you remove those. The base hitsounds of kicks and claps and whistles are quite cool, but you've overdone it on the hitsounds.

GL and I hope this helps