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The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2: The Grand Finale

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Who is the winner of The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2?

Rem
9
64.29%
Momosuzu Nene
5
35.71%
Total votes: 14
Polling ended
Topic Starter
Stomiks


We've finally arrived at the end of the line. To think that this whole tournament started from this simple image. Now it has grown into one of the most fiercest fights in all of waifu history.

We musn't forget all of the other competitors who came so close, yet so far. Everyone in this tournament has dedicated their whole being to grab the title as the best waifu in the 2nd Edition of Waifu Wars, the greatest title you can ever have as a waifu.

Now the remaining waifus here are not just the cream of the crop, they embody near pefection itself. But who's closer to perfection? We'll just have to go and see...

And the winner... for the The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2: The Finals battle is...

No way... I can't believe this...

Ladies and gentlemen... in The Finals of The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2... Both of our competitors have ended in a tie!!!




This has to be one of the most surprising events in The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2 yet! To think that a tie would occur this far in the tournament is just downright preposterous! It seems that our voters couldn't make a clear decision at all!

It seems that we have to rely on our trusted tiebreaker to settle this for the final time.
I call upon you, mywaifulist!


And the winner... for the The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2: The Finals battle is...

Rem!!!






In terms of general popularity, Polyspora has stood no possible chance winning against the 2nd most popular waifu in the history of waifus, Rem! In terms of ranking, Rem has completely beat Polyspora in every aspect, with her rankings in the Top 2 while Poly's in the Top 3000s!

When it comes to a different playing field, this battle is just a walk in the park for Rem! When everyone expected Polyspora to win, our veteran waifu Rem took the spot instead! This is possibly the greatest upset in waifu history!

Preparing for the The Grand Finale, she moves on!!!


Never could I predict that this would be the result of the filled board. In just one picture, a story, is told. The battlefield that took place during the many months of battles is the image that you see here, and now it's finally time to end The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2 in one last battle.


Taking place in the underground battles, a completely different audience of voters watches as my wife Momosuzu Nene slowly makes her way through the more difficult Loser's Bracket and ultimately gets her chance back to become the winner of the 2nd Edition of Waifu Wars!

Ladies and gentlemen, here comes the final battle in the The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2: The Grand Finale! Every single battle so far has contributed to the eventual battle of the 2 greatest waifus of this tournament.

This is the climax of tournament! The highest of points! And your vote completely lies in their victory! So now, choose! Choose and decide the winner of The Great OT! Waifu Wars 2!!!

The Grand Finale's matchup:


Rem






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Singing Performance


Rem is a character from the Re:zero franchise and is a maid of Margrave Roswaal L. Mathers alongside her sister, Ram.

She tends to speak in a superficially polite manner with a soft voice and sometimes acts without thinking.

Rem has a kind heart with a soft personality and holds great respect towards those who saved her and her sister from dangerous situations. She is also strong-willed by the fact that she will still follow Subaru despite him rejecting her.

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VS


Momosuzu Nene






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Singing Performance


Momosuzu Nene is a female Japanese Virtual YouTuber associated with Hololive, debuting as part of its fifth generation of VTubers alongside Yukihana Lamy, Shishiro Botan, Mano Aloe and Omaru Polka.

Nene is a cheerful, bubbly, and friendly girl who loves to talk and sing. She dreams of becoming an idol and having her own anime opening song. She's overconfident in games calling herself "Supernenechi," displaying good aiming skills in Apex despite being a beginner or having a 100% win rate in the first Among Us collaboration stream, however she can also be clumsy such as falling 16 times in her first Minecraft stream and failing Roboco-san's magma test. She often displays a cute smugness when she wins games, and pouts cutely whenever she loses. She playfully flirts with the other hololive members, with some examples including Lamy and Ina.

She greets he viewers with "Konnene"「こんねね」and says good bye with "Otsunene bye bye"「おつねね ばいばい」

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May this be your wisest decision yet.
DM FOR MUTUAL
We got the bad ending 😭
Patatitta
so

the fact that a random waifu in myanimelist has more followers, means, that, in fucking OT, polyspora is worth less?
Topic Starter
Stomiks
Ah nah stop complaining when we've literally had this system since the beginning
Patatitta

Stomiks wrote:

Ah nah stop complaining when we've literally had this system since the beginning
yeah because there was NO rules made for polyspora, this is acutally just bias
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

so

the fact that a random waifu in myanimelist has more followers, means, that, in fucking OT, polyspora is worth less?
well in OT they were apparently worth the same judging by the poll
Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

so

the fact that a random waifu in myanimelist has more followers, means, that, in fucking OT, polyspora is worth less?
well in OT they were apparently worth the same judging by the poll
my point is, I think the fact that polyspora is an OT user, should be worth more than rem being loved in another, different website, it should either been called as a tie due to the lack of rules for this scenario or just give the win to polyspora
Topic Starter
Stomiks
Poly was here because you guys choose him to be here to begin with. If you guys nominated and picked an actual anime character that actually has popularity in the Free-for-all battle then they had more of a chance in the rules that I initally made for this tournament.
Patatitta

Stomiks wrote:

Poly was here because you guys choose him to be here to begin with. If you guys nominated and picked an actual anime character that actually has popularity in the Free-for-all battle then they had more of a chance in the rules that I initally made for this tournament.
it should have been YOUR responsability for allowing that scenario from ever happening, blaming us for just pushing what you allowed us to push, and then punish us for doing so, is absolutely stupid
Rezq Gokou
Not my favorite Vtuber, but still prefer than Rem
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Poly was here because you guys choose him to be here to begin with. If you guys nominated and picked an actual anime character that actually has popularity in the Free-for-all battle then they had more of a chance in the rules that I initally made for this tournament.
it should have been YOUR responsability for allowing that scenario from ever happening, blaming us for just pushing what you allowed us to push, and then punish us for doing so, is absolutely stupid
I never expected for the chosen free-for-all character or any other character for that matter in this tournament to win against any character that has more popularity than them. The tiebreaker system was designed so it can easily resolve any ties so as to not elongate this tournament and put more work on myself. It just so happens that a tie occured between a more popular and a less popular character that you guys picked. A character's background should not affect the results of the tie.
Corne2Plum3
rigged
sametdze
rigged
Patatitta

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Poly was here because you guys choose him to be here to begin with. If you guys nominated and picked an actual anime character that actually has popularity in the Free-for-all battle then they had more of a chance in the rules that I initally made for this tournament.
it should have been YOUR responsability for allowing that scenario from ever happening, blaming us for just pushing what you allowed us to push, and then punish us for doing so, is absolutely stupid
I never expected for the chosen free-for-all character or any other character for that matter in this tournament to win against any character that has more popularity than them. The tiebreaker system was designed so it can easily resolve any ties so as to not elongate this tournament and put more work on myself. It just so happens that a tie occured between a more popular and a less popular character that you guys picked. A character's background should not affect the results of the tie.
in OT, polyspora is more popular than rem, given the ammount of non-weeb users, I think that should be enough

also, isn't your vtuber also not an anime character?

also the fact that you didn't see it coming doesn't mean that it's any less your fault
sametdze
poly might've not have made it to the grand finale, but in our hearts he won the waifu war fair and square.
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

in OT, polyspora is more popular than rem, given the ammount of non-weeb users, I think that should be enough
That's not what the votes say.

Patatitta wrote:

also, isn't your vtuber also not an anime character?
A definition of an anime character or anime is subjective, so in my case I can count for her as one. If she did end up in a tie with anyone else here, she'd automatically lose given how low her popularity is in the database.

Besides I was fine with non-anime characters to enter, that's why the free-for-all battle exists. It's that this is a waifu tournament and all so of course everyone else would be anime characters.

Patatitta wrote:

also the fact that you didn't see it coming doesn't mean that it's any less your fault
I didn't care if I didn't see anything coming since that system is absolute. Every character is not exempted from it. If you had a problem with the tiebreaker system to begin with, you could've told me way earlier when I put it in during the first waifu tie instead of complaining after your favorite to win lost the tournament.
Corne2Plum3
Recheck the votes
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Recheck the votes
Every waifu battle is during a 3-days period. Any votes after that is void. I just set it to 5 days so as to not reveal the results before I make the new thread about it since I'm rather busy with personal and academic matters.
sametdze
i mean now that stomiks explained what he's trying to say, i can't help but sort of be in the middle. while i do think the tiebreaker system is bullshit, stomiks made the tie breaker system like that, and we can't really do anything about it.
Patatitta

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

in OT, polyspora is more popular than rem, given the ammount of non-weeb users, I think that should be enough
That's not what the votes say.

Patatitta wrote:

also, isn't your vtuber also not an anime character?
A definition of an anime character or anime is subjective, so in my case I can count for her as one. If she did end up in a tie with anyone else here, she'd automatically lose given how low her popularity is in the database.

Besides I was fine with non-anime characters to enter, that's why the free-for-all battle exists. It's that this is a waifu tournament and all so of course everyone else would be anime characters.

Patatitta wrote:

also the fact that you didn't see it coming doesn't mean that it's any less your fault
I didn't care if I didn't see anything coming since that system is absolute. Every character is not exempted from it. If you had a problem with the tiebreaker system to begin with, you could've told me way earlier when I put it in during the first waifu tie instead of complaining after your favorite to win lost the tournament.

1- the votes also dont say 100K for rem, that's just gross popularity, and in gross popularity, in OT, in general, not limiting ourselves to voters, poly is probably more popular

2- the system was not absolute, since you added characters that would not apply to that rule, the system was flawed, and you knew of it, the fact that you did nothing about it, killed polyspora only to resurrect your fucking vtuber from the dead for an extra match, what the fuck dude
Kaaruumii
nene has too many husbands therefore she is a slut

rem wins ez clap
sametdze
cant tell if this is an argument or a discussion, but anyways
Kaaruumii

Patatitta wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

in OT, polyspora is more popular than rem, given the ammount of non-weeb users, I think that should be enough
That's not what the votes say.

Patatitta wrote:

also, isn't your vtuber also not an anime character?
A definition of an anime character or anime is subjective, so in my case I can count for her as one. If she did end up in a tie with anyone else here, she'd automatically lose given how low her popularity is in the database.

Besides I was fine with non-anime characters to enter, that's why the free-for-all battle exists. It's that this is a waifu tournament and all so of course everyone else would be anime characters.

Patatitta wrote:

also the fact that you didn't see it coming doesn't mean that it's any less your fault
I didn't care if I didn't see anything coming since that system is absolute. Every character is not exempted from it. If you had a problem with the tiebreaker system to begin with, you could've told me way earlier when I put it in during the first waifu tie instead of complaining after your favorite to win lost the tournament.

1- the votes also dont say 100K for rem, that's just gross popularity, and in gross popularity, in OT, in general, not limiting ourselves to voters, poly is probably more popular

2- the system was not absolute, since you added characters that would not apply to that rule, the system was flawed, and you knew of it, the fact that you did nothing about it, killed polyspora only to resurrect your fucking vtuber from the dead for an extra match, what the fuck dude
how bout we do a coinflip xd
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

1- the votes also dont say 100K for rem, that's just gross popularity, and in gross popularity, in OT, in general, not limiting ourselves to voters, poly is probably more popular
But since the win only counts on voter's votes, that wouldn't matter since they didn't vote for him hmmmm


Patatitta wrote:

2- point is, she has not a myanimelist, what would have you done? pull her youtube subs in order to win the tie? you literally brought her from the dead, dont come on and say you would have made her lose because you would absolutely have not
Not sure what you're referring to so I'll just pull up both of them.

Nene MyWaifuList profile
Nene MyAnimeList profile

Patatitta wrote:

3- the system was not absolute, since you added characters that would not apply to that rule, the system was flawed, and you knew of it, the fact that you did nothing about it, killed polyspora only to resurrect your fucking vtuber from the dead for an extra match, what the fuck dude
That's right. If the chosen character didn't appear in the mywaifulist database, I'd probably just do some bullshit move and decide popularity from something like views on a video or something. And since this is waifu wars, in respect to its disrespect for waifus, I can't have this whole tournament be civil and proper y'know? Such is the essence of waifu wars.

sametdze wrote:

cant tell if this is an argument or a discussion, but anyways
I mean I do hope for this to be an argument. What's the essence of waifu wars in a civil discussion?
Patatitta

Stomiks wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

1- the votes also dont say 100K for rem, that's just gross popularity, and in gross popularity, in OT, in general, not limiting ourselves to voters, poly is probably more popular
But since the win only counts on voter's votes, that wouldn't matter since they didn't vote for him hmmmm


Patatitta wrote:

2- point is, she has not a myanimelist, what would have you done? pull her youtube subs in order to win the tie? you literally brought her from the dead, dont come on and say you would have made her lose because you would absolutely have not
Not sure what you're referring to so I'll just pull up both of them.

Nene MyWaifuList profile
Nene MyAnimeList profile

Patatitta wrote:

3- the system was not absolute, since you added characters that would not apply to that rule, the system was flawed, and you knew of it, the fact that you did nothing about it, killed polyspora only to resurrect your fucking vtuber from the dead for an extra match, what the fuck dude
That's right. If the chosen character didn't appear in the mywaifulist database, I'd probably just do some bullshit move and decide popularity from something like views on a video or something. And since this is waifu wars, in respect to its disrespect for waifus, I can't have this whole tournament be civil and proper y'know? Such is the essence of waifu wars.

sametdze wrote:

cant tell if this is an argument or a discussion, but anyways
I mean I do hope for this to be an argument. What's the essence of waifu wars in a civil discussion?
1- okay so:


tie: check myanimelist, the more popular wins

rem 100k, other character 5k, 100K did not vote for rem, but that's not the point, in general it's more popular, so we go with that



this scenario: tie, check myanimelist, no myanimelist, no rule for this scenario, so, probably count how popular they are on OT in general

rem 100K, polyspora very popular in OT, but hey, if they're so popular why didn't they vote for them????


you see how this logic is stupid, why didn't more people vote for rem then?


2- I retracted this point after I saw that she had for whatever weird reason

3- this is literally admiting that the tournament was literally rigged, which was the thing I was fucking complaining about
DM FOR MUTUAL
Bruh wtf I was sat on my ass writing an assignment and you guys wrote more than me
Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Bruh wtf I was sat on my ass writing an assignment and you guys wrote more than me
do better I gess, go do your assignment
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Bruh wtf I was sat on my ass writing an assignment and you guys wrote more than me
do better I gess, go do your assignment
Finished 😎
Behrauder
How would the tie happen if it was the Attack Helicopter and not Polyspora? community/forums/topics/1771678?n=1
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

1- okay so:


tie: check myanimelist, the more popular wins

rem 100k, other character 5k, 100K did not vote for rem, but that's not the point, in general it's more popular, so we go with that



this scenario: tie, check myanimelist, no myanimelist, no rule for this scenario, so, probably count how popular they are on OT in general

rem 100K, polyspora very popular in OT, but hey, if they're so popular why didn't they vote for them????


you see how this logic is stupid, why didn't more people vote for rem then?
Cause they didn't vote for her? The number of votes are what I only count as a win. Outside factors don't count unless a tie happens and then a popularity judgement occurs. And I don't understand why you're using myanimelist as a figure for my popularity judgement, I use mywaifulist.

And measuring popularity on OT is just your idea of breaking ties. There could be several other suggestions for the tiebreaker if you guys have an idea.

Patatitta wrote:

2- I retracted this point after I saw that she had for whatever weird reason
Cause she's a cutey that's deserving of one. I liked how she got to voice a character in an anime too. I was shocked when I first heard her voice watching the anime lmao.

Patatitta wrote:

3- this is literally admiting that the tournament was literally rigged, which was the thing I was fucking complaining about
Yeah the plan was to always put my waifu as the final competitor in the tournament. But yeah if the votes are clearly in favor for Rem then I don't mind having her losing.

I am the host of the 2nd Edition of Waifu Wars first and foremost. If you want a different take on things then you could host the 3rd Edition yourself if you wanna, you've already met the qualifications for doing so.

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Bruh wtf I was sat on my ass writing an assignment and you guys wrote more than me
Arguing is fun.

Behrauder wrote:

How would the tie happen if it was the Attack Helicopter and not Polyspora? community/forums/topics/1771678?n=1
Probably make an arbitrary decision if a tie happens.
sametdze

Stomiks wrote:

And measuring popularity on OT is just your idea of breaking ties. There could be several other suggestions for the tiebreaker if you guys have an idea.
how about instead of all of this complicated stuff, you just redo the whole round again? if it happens, you redo, again and again. or as another guy said, coin flip it. or maybe you could have 2 AIs play rock paper scissors. idk how you'd get the AI, but there are a few very basic coding languages that could be used to make the AIs..

Stomiks wrote:

Yeah the plan was to always put my waifu as the final competitor in the tournament. But yeah if the votes are clearly in favor for Rem then I don't mind having her losing.
so it was rigged from the start? tf?? at least rem actually has a chance of winning so.. yay?
Jangsoodlor
The waifulist tie-breaking system, When not used in the finals, is superior than what I implemented during the first war (which is me literally hand-picking who I like more). But since this is the finals and poly is not even in the database, it's more appropriate to held a re-vote. Yes he has Tewi Inaba as his pfp. But he's not Tewi Inaba. (Although It's true that it's quite time-consuming to format the waifu war lol)

But at the end of the day, I, as the original creator, meant to be a fun tournament not to be taken seriously as opposed to what's held in r/anime.
Topic Starter
Stomiks

sametdze wrote:

how about instead of all of this complicated stuff, you just redo the whole round again? if it happens, you redo, again and again. or as another guy said, coin flip it. or maybe you could have 2 AIs play rock paper scissors. idk how you'd get the AI, but there are a few very basic coding languages that could be used to make the AIs..
Yeah just do that the next waifu wars comes around. I'm really busy on top of being sick rn so I barely have any time to implement new ideas nor am I willing to do so.

sametdze wrote:

so it was rigged from the start? tf?? at least rem actually has a chance of winning so.. yay?
Yes.

Jangsoodlor wrote:

The waifulist tie-breaking system, When not used in the finals, is superior than what I implemented during the first war (which is me literally hand-picking who I like more). But since this is the finals and poly is not even in the database, it's more appropriate to held a re-vote. (Although It's true that it's quite time-consuming to format the waifu war lol)
I'm having the itch to make a poll on how many of you actually read these threads. Poly IS in the database. It's clearly seen in the thread if you go and read it.

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But at the end of the day, I, as the original creator, meant to be a fun tournament not to be taken seriously as opposed to what's held in r/anime.
I wanted my own take to resemble waifu wars as closely as possible.
Jangsoodlor

Stomiks wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

The waifulist tie-breaking system, When not used in the finals, is superior than what I implemented during the first war (which is me literally hand-picking who I like more). But since this is the finals and poly is not even in the database, it's more appropriate to held a re-vote. (Although It's true that it's quite time-consuming to format the waifu war lol)
I'm having the itch to make a poll on how many of you actually read these threads. Poly IS in the database. It's clearly seen in the thread if you go and read it.
Yes he has Tewi Inaba as his pfp. But he's not Tewi Inaba. But this is your war so I'll respect your choice.

Stomiks wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But at the end of the day, I, as the original creator, meant to be a fun tournament not to be taken seriously as opposed to what's held in r/anime.
I wanted my own take to resemble waifu wars as closely as possible.
I think you succeeded in that regards considering the heated arguments lol
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

The waifulist tie-breaking system, When not used in the finals, is superior than what I implemented during the first war (which is me literally hand-picking who I like more). But since this is the finals and poly is not even in the database, it's more appropriate to held a re-vote. (Although It's true that it's quite time-consuming to format the waifu war lol)
I'm having the itch to make a poll on how many of you actually read these threads. Poly IS in the database. It's clearly seen in the thread if you go and read it.
Yes he has Tewi Inaba as his pfp. But he's not Tewi Inaba. But this is your war so I'll respect your choice.
I see I see. Yeah I did make the decision for poly to be a stand-in for tewi since I doubt that he'd be willing to sing and make videos for this tourney lmao.

Also poly if you're seeing this I apologize for making you represent an anime character.

Jangsoodlor wrote:

I think you succeeded in that regards considering the heated arguments lol
I want more.
Patatitta
tewi inaba does not count for polyspora

my first point, is that, for a anime waifu, you go, "oh, she's overall more popular, that's how we break the tie", and then for polyspora you go "why didn't they win then? why did they only tie?, shame, going to give the win to the other waifu", is just NOT the same system, it's actually just unfair

and yeah, having your waifu always as a grand finals is actually just rigging the tournament which kinda ruins the whole fucking point of the thread
Kaaruumii

Patatitta wrote:

tewi inaba does not count for polyspora
poly killed tewi and wears her flesh
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

tewi inaba does not count for polyspora

my first point, is that, for a anime waifu, you go, "oh, she's overall more popular, that's how we break the tie", and then for polyspora you go "why didn't they win then? why did they only tie?, shame, going to give the win to the other waifu", is just NOT the same system, it's actually just unfair
I don't treat poly as any different in this tournament. Everyone is treated as an anime waifu and will follow the rule that you stated in the first phrase. I don't get why you think I give poly different treatment when all I did was follow the rules that I've always gone through since the very beginning.
Reyalp51
it seems my vote did count

Polyspora
Shit
Duck o-o
rigged, we need a recount
edit: also rem unironically cuter just due to the fact that i still havent watched the show so i can schrodingers rem her into having a cuter personality in my head
Kobold84
It's rigged, but it's for the best. I vote Nene.
anaxii
Momosuzu Nene lost against Poly who also lost against Rem lol
Patatitta

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

tewi inaba does not count for polyspora

my first point, is that, for a anime waifu, you go, "oh, she's overall more popular, that's how we break the tie", and then for polyspora you go "why didn't they win then? why did they only tie?, shame, going to give the win to the other waifu", is just NOT the same system, it's actually just unfair
I don't treat poly as any different in this tournament. Everyone is treated as an anime waifu and will follow the rule that you stated in the first phrase. I don't get why you think I give poly different treatment when all I did was follow the rules that I've always gone through since the very beginning.
it's different treatment, since you knew that the system did not really work for polyspora, and did nothing to really prevent it
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

tewi inaba does not count for polyspora

my first point, is that, for a anime waifu, you go, "oh, she's overall more popular, that's how we break the tie", and then for polyspora you go "why didn't they win then? why did they only tie?, shame, going to give the win to the other waifu", is just NOT the same system, it's actually just unfair
I don't treat poly as any different in this tournament. Everyone is treated as an anime waifu and will follow the rule that you stated in the first phrase. I don't get why you think I give poly different treatment when all I did was follow the rules that I've always gone through since the very beginning.
it's different treatment, since you knew that the system did not really work for polyspora, and did nothing to really prevent it
The system will not be in favor for anyone who isn't as popular as the character they're facing against. Doesn't matter if it's poly himself or another character.
Polyspora
:P
Jangsoodlor
reminder that the poll ends tmrw at 11 am UTC
Topic Starter
Stomiks
I'm a lazy bum + busy so can't be bothered much. So uhh... whatever you do don't look at the results of the poll!!!
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