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ash
Stats for Pickles (Offline): http://osu.ppy.sh/u/46036
Score: 31,387,102 (#1496)
Plays: 7 (lv20)
Accuracy: 99.78%

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Ash wrote:

1. Yoko Shimomura - Cackletta Soul Battle - m980
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/2789 [Ranked]
(Insane: #1 score)

look at the replay
...again
looks less hacked but is VERY suspicious
Saturos
Perhaps someone has found a way to hax auto-play and/or relax for their own benefit? Hidden/Flashlight/Double Time on that map, We Are Insane, and Pokerap; all SH's and XH's. Normally, I'd say that this person was just playing offline to practice and then logging in to play for real, but these 3 scores were all obtained within the same 2 hours. Definitely not possible.

What I find truly interesting, though, is he has two plays on Virus and no score. Wonder if it failed to work with his hax.
adamskii_uk
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ThePassingShadow
This new hacking really concerns me. I think these people need to be totally wiped before they spread their methods to other users.

Get out your banhammer, peppy.
Gens

ThePassingShadow wrote:

Get out your banhammer, peppy.
Agreed. >:(

Also...
Just Obtained 2nd for "Tsurupetan". (Easy)

xiaoyi54201. >:(
CowNoseThe50PoundCat
I wasn't sure about posting this here, but I will anyways caus it's buggin the crap outta me. I wonder am I doing something wrong?

OK, #1 score guy has 4 100's with no mods.
#2 score person has 100% accuracy, no mods

Me, I get 100% accuracy with no mods and my points are like 75% of any of these top 10 people. So am I doing something wrong? I can't think of anything differently I could do. Does Osu! have some variability in the points?

Maybe it's the spinner, there is 1 in this beatmap, but man I guess these people are really good spinners. But 25,000 more points from a spinner, I guess it's possible.

Anyways the song is "1,2,3,4..007" on easy mode. For some reason my screenshot button isn't working in song select mode.
Saturos
Yes, that's just the difference in spinner bonus.
CowNoseThe50PoundCat
Ok thanks Saturos. So I'm just a noob then. :P
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mattyu007

Diasios
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[deleted user]
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Jeffro
This score is still fishy O_O



I freaking SS'ed it. But he seems to have ended with like 20k more O_O and he A'ed it.
mattyu007
all 4 top scores are above what auto gets with the given mods

Pasonia
1st to 4th of THIS IS SPARTAAAAAA!!!

There seems to be some sort of scoring error. All these scores, when replayed, clearly ended at 110k-ish (one even had a miss to the end) so there was no way these scores would have gotten that high if there wasn't a bug.

I posted because I ended up at 10th despite playing with three mods on.
Willow_old
I did all I could, literally, but couldn't get to the first place on "Neon Genesis Evangelion - Cruel Angel's Thesis" Easy difficulty.

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&b=12787

I know I'm not the best in spinners, but the #1 only has hardrock and doubletime on, when I have also hidden and flashlight, which is supposed to bring 0.22x more points. Should be enough to compensate my sucky spinners and win him with perfect score o.O Check the replays and correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't do any exact calculations. I'm #16 at the moment.

The #9 with no mods on looks kinda fishy too, but can't tell.
Saturos

Willow wrote:

I did all I could, literally, but couldn't get to the first place on "Neon Genesis Evangelion - Cruel Angel's Thesis" Easy difficulty.

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&b=12787

I know I'm not the best in spinners, but the #1 only has hardrock and doubletime on, when I have also hidden and flashlight, which is supposed to bring 0.22x more points. Should be enough to compensate my sucky spinners and win him with perfect score o.O Check the replays and correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't do any exact calculations. I'm #16 at the moment.

The #9 with no mods on looks kinda fishy too, but can't tell.
Tormentor is legit, he's just ridiculous at spinning. Total points on this map is so small that spinner bonus can easily dwarf any mods in terms of points, so it's understandable.

#9 is questionable, though.
Jarby
What?

mattyu007
Greater max combo = higher score generally
Starrodkirby86
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Celestral
Omg this is actually my first bord post O:
I'm not sure about this one.
I guess the scores were from an earlier version of the beatmap?
I don't know about the other difficulties, but at least easy mode seems off =/

Gens
>:(

Is this possible?
LuigiHann
In easy maps like that the score is all about the spinner.
Gens

LuigiHann wrote:

In easy maps like that the score is all about the spinner.
And... the Combo?

Mine 296 and those... 298? (Note: Misses, 0 Mine)
Saturos
The top 4 on that map are ancient scores when scoring methods were a bit different. I guess they snuck by without being purged.

#5 is where the actual legit scores start for that map.
FurukawaPan
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adam2046
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sesito71
In Masayo Matsura - Paradise (Easy), I did it perfect with hidden, hardrock, double time and flashlight and i'm only the fourth. I've seen the replays of 1#HenkieBP, 2#Macned and 3#Quester 115 and the score doesn't look right...

bye, and sorry for my poor english :oops:
ash
http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=2834 <-- wtf @ top scores

replay looks normal though; just multiple accounts
James
#1 on kawada mami - sense [hard]
dodgy spinning technique?
the player spins differently at other replays..
i hope its legit

edit: after watching for a few times, i think its legit..
how the hell do they press circles that arent visible anymore
MetalDart
I am completely dumbfounded right now.
I saw Saturos's score for Three Point One Four [Hard] and decided to watch the replay. I have no idea what happened. I'm thinking this is someone else's playthrough. Watch the replay, I started laughing because it seems so unlike him. I wonder if it's just me though. :/ :\

If you see this post Saturos, watch the replay hahahahaha.
Here's a preview.

adamskii_uk
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Gens
What the crap?!
"Loituma - Ievan Polkka"
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&s=2463

The 1st score.
>:(
Saturos

MetalDart wrote:

I am completely dumbfounded right now.
I saw Saturos's score for Three Point One Four [Hard] and decided to watch the replay. I have no idea what happened. I'm thinking this is someone else's playthrough. Watch the replay, I started laughing because it seems so unlike him. I wonder if it's just me though. :/ :\

If you see this post Saturos, watch the replay hahahahaha.
Here's a preview.
There was a couple builds of test osu a few months ago that had broken replays for a few hours. This was probably one of them that I scored on during that time. ;x
Larto
#1 on "Coldplay - Lost! [Easy]" dj-jimbo

I lol'd

This isn't possible, I guess?
ZZT the Fifth
Bogus lookin' #1 score here... Watched the replay and it didn't look like the score would come anywhere near the reported amount. Add in the fact that no mods were used, and... yeah, I'm pretty sure this score is bogus.



Slain087
I would ask that the submitters in this topic please read the entire thing before submitting. Multiple postings of the same score don't help matters much.
nomedeusuarionaodisp
Something's strange with this guy's replay (CtB, first place,Wizards in Winter [Insane]).

Last fruit:

Score screen:

Check it for yourselves.
The score is also kinda hard to believe, because auto play got only a bit higher than that. Seeing salad! playing CtB is awesome, due to its teleportation powers.
UnknownID_old
How does this work (same for the other two below him)? lol, can't view their replays
They got higher scores then me without mods, no 100% and also no spinners in this song



Starrodkirby86
Those were the old scores before there was a new algorithm, or something like that.

As mentioned by Saturos here: viewtopic.php?p=63359#p63359

Or rather quoted:

Saturos wrote:

The top 4 on that map are ancient scores when scoring methods were a bit different. I guess they snuck by without being purged.

#5 is where the actual legit scores start for that map.
Pasonia
How can a B get top rank? So I went to check the score and voila.

Not sure if this is a repeated report though...





Cabasho
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DeathxShinigami
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Starrodkirby86
I remember this was mentioned in Chat weeks ago. Long story short, dj-jimbo was a spinner hacker. That's what peppy said at least. There was also a report similar to this on Okuru Kotoba...
Chozx
On the song Genbu - Ganymede Beginner Macned had a SS without mods and has with spins 5000 his score in the game is rond 99.000 but his score is 120.148 and thats not fair.


Plz look the replay of that guy and ban him :x :x :x

fuffolo
"You are an Idiot! [Easy]"

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/14648

I've done better then the the first and the second, spinners too.
VincentLaw
this is his score... (98% HardRock + Flashlight )



and watch mine now... ( with 100% Hidden + HardRock + Flashlight )



O_o'

i thought it would be spinners but in the replay he has a weird form of doin the spinners and gets low score on them
maybe a replay bug or a score bug? dunno

also 2nd place doesn't have replay and also other places show the same bug

pasonia also pointed this map before
fuffolo
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VincentLaw
hmmm faster than osu auto? :D

i have seen guys that spin at 400 - 470

and it shows the score

maybe thats a replay bug and he did spin fast but wth? 2 mods 98 vs 3 mods 100?

anyway thats not the case... also u can check the other places replays like larto's one?

and the 2nd place doesn't have replay
Ryohan
There is the new formula for score.... before that people can spin over 1000 spins per minute :P
mattyu007
The new formula is for calculating the spinning RPM and has no effect on score
Soaprman
So yeah, fuckgou321 is pretty good at osu!
Kitty McWittles

UnknownID wrote:

How does this work (same for the other two below him)? lol, can't view their replays
They got higher scores then me without mods, no 100% and also no spinners in this song



Old quote yes, but same guy.



Ignore the scribbles... there's no horribly embarassing score there, I swear ._.;; (Iwasbored)

But yea... fruit gets A-rank #1 with no mods and ShaggoN uses Hard Rock and Flashlight AND gets SS but #2? And there's no spinners at all, so those aren't a possible reason.
FurukawaPan
I found this odd:

The score is higher than usual for a [None] mod situation.
deepsea
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tonychiu1208
i am not sure about it is a repeat post.
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something about loituma- ievan polka.

dragoon's score is a lot larger than auto's score, even with the mod.
he got over 30k, but auto get only 20k, and my qmarco (spins around 475-477rpm) got only 199000.
it is weird, and if it is the ancient score, than i'll sorry about it.
mattyu007
Don't bot or you're gonna get banned for it
mattyu007
Wondergirls - Nobody [Easy], #1 score by KuGaMeZa on Taiko
Wojjan
So, yes found a verrry odd score:

Silver Forest - Tsurupettan [cx_time's Easy]

1. xiaoyi54201
Score: 611.758 Combo: 222
Mods: Hard Rock
(total spin bonus: 10K)

3. Wojjan (boastboast)
Score: 604.223 Combo: 222
Mods: Hidden, DoubleTime, Hard Rock, Flashlight
(total spin bonus: 163K)

This feels odd, if anything.
Eddycted
This seems off by about 30k.



anonymous_old
Crystal Kay - Motherland's top three scores.
SS Hard Rock/Double Time/Flashlight beaten by S, S, and A sans mods. No spinners.
[deleted user]
how come ledzur did Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy), catch the beat mode with hardrock, double time , hidden and flashlight if u cant see at all? explain that to me -.- . smells to cheat* cough* extract.osu cough* i wont explain the extract stuff but if some of u played audi and changed some .acv files u know.
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-
anonymous_old
High scores #1 (eyup), #2 (Lumino), and #5 (Extor) of Phantasma - Fall Memories look too high without mods. Only one spinner; shouldn't make that big of a difference.
anonymous_old
High scores #1 (SkyStriker), #2 (xerxes_oli), #3 (Skits), and #4 (Larto) of Rabbit Joint - Legend of Zelda look pretty high. #2 may be ligit, though -- I'll look into it a bit. #33 (Kyuuri) looks somewhat suspicious, too.
Daru
Barusa of Mikosu [TAG4]- http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24722
#1 by UnixUbuntu- http://osu.ppy.sh/u/92372


His play history as a whole looks rather suspicious, as well as the replay of Barusa of Mikosu #1.

#Osu wrote:

16:41 <Daru> : Does this look suspicious to anyone else? http://osu.ppy.sh/u/92372
16:41 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : eh, I don't want to be a jerk
16:41 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : but that does seem really odd
16:41 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : checking replay
16:41 <Daru> : Took 6 tries as well. :/
16:42 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : bit high score too lol
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : the cursor jumps on sliders
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : like from start to end
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : Daru did you check the replay?
16:43 <Daru> : Yeah... seems rather odd.
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : those jumps on sliders look really odd tbh
16:44 <Daru> : ^ Was what I was thinking
16:44 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : rythm is kind of odd though
16:44 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : look at the long sliders though
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : it looks interesting
16:45 <Daru> : The end as well...
16:45 <Daru> : he nearly FC'ed that last bit.
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : yeah the spinner looks really odd
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : cursor jumps everywhere
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : uh, I might be overstepping my bounds. But I think this needs to be checked
16:46 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : neither am I, suggest you let someone badass look at it. Then take it to peppy...
16:48 <CheeseWarlock> : It's definitely suspicious, Priest.
16:48 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : I thought so Cheese
16:48 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : you notice the spinners in the end?
16:48 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : that should be proof if anything imho
16:50 <CheeseWarlock> : The spinners in the end, the perfectly linear movement in the beginning...
16:51 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : and the jumps during sliders
16:51 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : from start to endpoint if you noticed it
16:51 <CheeseWarlock> : And IMMEDIATE jumps
16:51 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : so I can't really say... but I personally don't like the looks of it
And from there CheeseWarlock told us to post.
Zerostarry
His cursor acts exactly like auto on jumps..

I say hax.
running_lemon

mierdur wrote:

how come ledzur did Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy), catch the beat mode with hardrock, double time , hidden and flashlight if u cant see at all? explain that to me -.- . smells to cheat* cough* extract.osu cough* i wont explain the extract stuff but if some of u played audi and changed some .acv files u know.
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-
memorize the song.

Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy) is very easy and very short. If someone put in the effort it wouldn't be that hard to remember everything and on top of that Ledzur is very good at CTB.

Edit:Hell I just did it myself in like two tries. Without hardrock and double time mind you, but its still very possible with them on, just takes a little more skill and effort.
happy30
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Topic Starter
peppy
@happy30: dirty hacks. He will be purged before the night is over - I'm just collecting info at the moment.
ledzur

running_lemon wrote:

mierdur wrote:

how come ledzur did Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy), catch the beat mode with hardrock, double time , hidden and flashlight if u cant see at all? explain that to me -.- . smells to cheat* cough* extract.osu cough* i wont explain the extract stuff but if some of u played audi and changed some .acv files u know.
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-
memorize the song.

Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy) is very easy and very short. If someone put in the effort it wouldn't be that hard to remember everything and on top of that Ledzur is very good at CTB.

Edit:Hell I just did it myself in like two tries. Without hardrock and double time mind you, but its still very possible with them on, just takes a little more skill and effort.
Thx lemon, for that 100% true ^^

His just a random noob, before the 100 combo at ctb u can c perfectly the fruits even with hidden, so, its a 61 combo that difficult, and i just did it to pwn a guy called Hanyou bcuz he pissed me off 1 day ^^.

HF :)

Topic Starter
peppy
Please guys, don't accuse people of cheating in this thread. Just bring up scores that you don't think look correct and leave the rest to us. Accusing people will get you nowhere..
Henkie

Eddycted wrote:

This seems off by about 30k.



Lol xD I never actually noticed that, I almost never watch my own replays unless the map is epic.
But I think it's because of an update, at the time I achieved that, spinners were worth more... I think xD
(my first time on this part of the forum btw o.o)
Mystearica
Maybe I'll add some screens this time for this score:





I'm pretty new to osu! and it might just be me but it looks like to me ShaggoN deserves that #1 ._.

Thanks for looking.
mattyu007
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Disturbed_old

That one.
(This is my first time posting on this site, I'm hoping the attachment works so I don't need to upload to an image hosting site)
Starrodkirby86
Anenew feat. Saori Sakura - True My Heart [Normal]:


What seems so wrong? It's the max combo. The score can't even get that high...(Or the combo rather), so it seemed all too strange.

Look here even:

Notice the Max combo there.

:o

anonymous_old
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anonymous_old
Top three scores of Marta - The SMRPG Song are much too high.
Rono_old
Access - Doubt & Trust #1

It seems perfect...

...but on replay:

Here we see a 50 (and combo lose)


And here is in the song, it is a 600k point end, not a 900k one
Azu_old


Check out the first two replays.
mattyu007
#1 replay, Taiko, Hito's Ready Steady Go
Azu_old
Almost everyone who plays Taiko uses a Macro. I've seen D's above S's.
anonymous_old

Azu wrote:

Almost everyone who plays Taiko uses a Macro. I've seen D's above S's.
Isn't there a notice every time you play Taiko which says the score formula is under development? These high D's could have used an older formula, or a newer one (test build).
mattyu007

strager wrote:

These high D's could have used an older formula, or a newer one (test build).
The old formula scores were all wiped before the newer scoring formula came into effect

Azu wrote:

Almost everyone who plays Taiko uses a Macro. I've seen D's above S's.
Please don't make assumptions like that, it just seems that way because macro'd scores get more points, and are therefore shown in the scoreboard more often
awp
Why would you macro if you can't even FC? You'd get busted so easily.
mattyu007
Tsukiyo wo Kakusanai Teido whatever

<Taiko> [Hard] #6 - Marisa-Alice
Subaru
anonymous_old
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ShaggoN
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Atmey
100%+ acc?

anonymous_old

Atmey wrote:

100%+ acc?
It's a workaround for another bug. Just ignore it for now.

I may be wrong. =X
wohdin
Taiko mode...

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=19402&m=1
Ahem.

Replay is rather hilarious to watch tho.
Subaru
do you think something's wrong with the replay? or 100% Accuracy cheat?

RANK #1
Result
The part before the player misses
The part after the player misses
After the song he is rank 21 or less

The replay says it's not a FC song but nevertheless he used hard rock.
The result says the player FCed the song although he got a miss on that song.
Andrea
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mtmcl

osuplayer111 wrote:

Flyin' to your soul

Difficulty : FREEZE!!!

Look replay #1.

Aimbot hacking !
If you want more evidence on this one, check out Canseidon's DT replay on Dejavu [Ultimate]
Andrea
Do it all night

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

Another aimbot hacking!!!

Kiss no yukue (TV Size) Mapped by me

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

The same player, ever aimbot hacking!!!
Hanyuu

osuplayer111 wrote:

Do it all night

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

Another aimbot hacking!!!

Kiss no yukue (TV Size) Mapped by me

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

The same player, ever aimbot hacking!!!

..... :?

Edit: watch the replay of RevenG - Sakura [Insane]
he made #1 again but i dont think he is a cheater. just very excellent player 0.0
Inozuma
His movements are too perfect, always straight to the next beat...
and the replay on DejaVu is just impossible plus e FC'd it...
anonymous_old

mtmcl wrote:

If you want more evidence on this one, check out Canseidon's DT replay on Dejavu [Ultimate]
I looked at the replay of Deja Vu. It seems as if he played the match without DT then replayed it with a bot at twice the speed. That's probably how he got 477 spins and had some human-looking movements in places (see small repeating sliders).

osuplayer111 wrote:

Flyin' to your soul

Difficulty : FREEZE!!!

Look replay #1.

Aimbot hacking !
Looking at the replay to Flyin' To Your Soul seems to result in a similar conclusion: he played with Half-Time then replayed at twice the speed to play normal time. Again, spinners are pretty fast (except the end, where he spun less than 200 on half-time =S).

Hanyuu wrote:

watch the replay of RevenG - Sakura [Insane]
he made #1 again but i dont think he is a cheater. just very excellent player 0.0
Probably the same Half-Time trick.

osuplayer111 wrote:

Do it all night

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

Another aimbot hacking!!!
Doesn't look like it to me.
Henkie
Canseidon on Twister (Subarashiki Mix)



Hmm yea.. sure :U
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