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My replay for Devour [Insane]. It says I get a slider break, but I really didn't.
There were a lot of other replays, I think, like that. I can't remember which ones.
There were a lot of other replays, I think, like that. I can't remember which ones.
Kai's replays in I Believe (http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&s=1149), both "Ultra Violence" and "NIGHTMARE".
Mouse movements are not right, maybe that happened because of the re-ranking.
Mouse movements are not right, maybe that happened because of the re-ranking.
Some of the top replays on the Loituma [SPINNER-MADNESS] are screwed up for some reason. Some of them show the person failing the spinner or something but says they have 200,000+ points. o_O
^Guys, he isn't really talking about broken replays (those are often bugs), he's talking about scores that either involve cheating, or involve unrealistic spinning .
Okay, let's see...
Ootsuki Kenji Hitotoshite Jiku Ga Bureteiru [Easy]
Just watch the #1 replay, not to mention look at the scores. #2 and below already have insane spinner bonuses, BUT they're humanly possible (just really, really difficult). Now, #1 got 40K or so more of spin bonuses (not to mention #2 SS'd it, he got 2 100's, and both weren't using any mods), not to mention the replay comes up with around 112K when his score is 190K.
Suara - Musouka [Easy]
So like, the same thing and all. Now, people below him used mods, for one. He didn't. Okay, he did better accuracy-wise, but 260K to 247K and below is a pretty decent margin on Easy, and again, the people below #1 got insane spin bonuses (like, 20K above me in score worth, even with the same or less multiplier and more 100s...but I got 6th this time. XD).
Again, his replay comes waaaaaay off by the end. It shows him spinning a lot slower than he should have in order to get those insane bonuses. >_>;
Either way, I think those scores are overspun. You can check for yourself if you want. =P
EDIT: Oh, it's the same guy. And what I was getting at was how insane his bonuses were, even though the replays showed him spinning at the speed I usually spin at. Yeah really.
EDIT2:
Allegro Cantabile (Easy)-
Okay, this guy didn't do well, with no mods, and got... #1. People below him used mods, did much better, ect. Yet, he got #1, yet he didn't get good scores (100: 10 | 50: 5, which isn't good at all on this map, especially without mods). This doesn't normally happen, so I think something's wonky here. XP
Okay, let's see...
Ootsuki Kenji Hitotoshite Jiku Ga Bureteiru [Easy]
Just watch the #1 replay, not to mention look at the scores. #2 and below already have insane spinner bonuses, BUT they're humanly possible (just really, really difficult). Now, #1 got 40K or so more of spin bonuses (not to mention #2 SS'd it, he got 2 100's, and both weren't using any mods), not to mention the replay comes up with around 112K when his score is 190K.
Suara - Musouka [Easy]
So like, the same thing and all. Now, people below him used mods, for one. He didn't. Okay, he did better accuracy-wise, but 260K to 247K and below is a pretty decent margin on Easy, and again, the people below #1 got insane spin bonuses (like, 20K above me in score worth, even with the same or less multiplier and more 100s...but I got 6th this time. XD).
Again, his replay comes waaaaaay off by the end. It shows him spinning a lot slower than he should have in order to get those insane bonuses. >_>;
Either way, I think those scores are overspun. You can check for yourself if you want. =P
EDIT: Oh, it's the same guy. And what I was getting at was how insane his bonuses were, even though the replays showed him spinning at the speed I usually spin at. Yeah really.
EDIT2:
Allegro Cantabile (Easy)-
Okay, this guy didn't do well, with no mods, and got... #1. People below him used mods, did much better, ect. Yet, he got #1, yet he didn't get good scores (100: 10 | 50: 5, which isn't good at all on this map, especially without mods). This doesn't normally happen, so I think something's wonky here. XP
Coldplay - Lost! [Easy]
The dude in first used no mods, had a C rank, and is 60000 points above 2nd (an S rank, unmodded). The 30 100s don't seem to help either. Second place has an average of about 8000 in the spinner department. In the best case scenario (where the only difference between the two is the spinner scores, which obviously does not apply to this score), that would mean that he had gotten an average of 25000 on the spinners, if I did the math right.
The dude in first used no mods, had a C rank, and is 60000 points above 2nd (an S rank, unmodded). The 30 100s don't seem to help either. Second place has an average of about 8000 in the spinner department. In the best case scenario (where the only difference between the two is the spinner scores, which obviously does not apply to this score), that would mean that he had gotten an average of 25000 on the spinners, if I did the math right.
It's also a round 420k. Cheatengine, or something?Slain087 wrote:
Coldplay - Lost! [Easy]
The dude in first used no mods, had a C rank, and is 60000 points above 2nd (an S rank, unmodded). The 30 100s don't seem to help either. Second place has an average of about 8000 in the spinner department. In the best case scenario (where the only difference between the two is the spinner scores, which obviously does not apply to this score), that would mean that he had gotten an average of 25000 on the spinners, if I did the math right.
Spinner hacks on Super Mario Bros. (TECHNO remix) [Easy]...
Number one score. Hinyat.
I could sometimes spin over 1000rpm, but that was with the old rpm counter...
Plus, my mouse wasn't directly in the centre like that.
Number one score. Hinyat.
I could sometimes spin over 1000rpm, but that was with the old rpm counter...
Plus, my mouse wasn't directly in the centre like that.
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Even with the flashlight mod, is this possible...?
Nothing wrong with that score, ZZT. Just multipliers in action. He still combo'd the entire song, but probably missed the last 3, so the score is completely believable. A complete FC would have been worth around 2.65mil.
omg this score doesn't look right,
oh wait I'm just awesome(my19082317kjsdakfhdfiuyewiagfaiu3949 looks a little odd but he couldn't dethrone my awesome so
)
oh wait I'm just awesome(my19082317kjsdakfhdfiuyewiagfaiu3949 looks a little odd but he couldn't dethrone my awesome so
)I know this is because the map changed, but ID Software - I Believe [NIGHTMARE!!] Kai replay is lulzy if you watch it.
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#3 and #4 universal dance [easy]
It would appear as though my1908601209 is a repeat offender. I've seen some legal scores from him (meaning, the score appears to be within reason for the rank), but I think this is the third strike against him. Perhaps he should be permabanned?
Speaking of which, peppy, aside from just axing their scores, what is planned for offenders of this type?
Speaking of which, peppy, aside from just axing their scores, what is planned for offenders of this type?
Linkin Park - Numb
fruit's score. No spinners, yet he manages an unmodded score that's higher than the three SS scores? What's weirder, the listing notes buraimaster for the top score, yet the rankings (save for fruit) tell a different story.
EDIT: Can someone check these odd scores' dates and see if they were within the bounds of when a glitch made the spinners frictionless?
fruit's score. No spinners, yet he manages an unmodded score that's higher than the three SS scores? What's weirder, the listing notes buraimaster for the top score, yet the rankings (save for fruit) tell a different story.
EDIT: Can someone check these odd scores' dates and see if they were within the bounds of when a glitch made the spinners frictionless?
Topic Starter
FixedCyclone wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=3699
Inozuma's score
Fixed - this is an ooold score submission (11 months) which probably bugged at the time.Slain087 wrote:
Linkin Park - Numb
fruit's score. No spinners, yet he manages an unmodded score that's higher than the three SS scores? What's weirder, the listing notes buraimaster for the top score, yet the rankings (save for fruit) tell a different story. EDIT: Can someone check these odd scores' dates and see if they were within the bounds of when a glitch made the spinners frictionless?
Topic Starter
PurgedGens wrote:
Nintendo - Super Mario Bros. (TECHNO remix)
http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=3516
dj-jimbo
In the difficulties of Breezin and Crusin of Emoticons, both #1's have no replay data, and they're first without any mods, or even a near perfect rank, for that matter.
Suspicious.
Suspicious.
I think I may have cheated on dribble and spitz highway jazz (not delibratly) [easy] I guess it doesn't hurt to check out the other scores aswell.
Imagine my surprise when I finished someone got 750k-ish, check the guy below me, his spinners are AWESOME. 
I kicked his ass regardless.
I kicked his ass regardless.
Fishy looking score--Symbolic's replay on All The World in One Girl, Medium. The maximum combo on this stage is 375, but he has a 379-combo. .__.
Number 1 score for "Rabbit Joint - Legend of Zelda - Easy" looks odd. Even the replay shows him with only 1000 (or 2000 after viewing it a second time?) on the spinner, no mods, less accuracy than 100%, and is at the top.
Number 2 looks a bit suspect as well considering how well #3 did.
Is it maybe from a earlier, unmodified version of the beatmap?
Number 2 looks a bit suspect as well considering how well #3 did.
Is it maybe from a earlier, unmodified version of the beatmap?
Hmmm crystal kay motherland score is not right.
Eyup fced it with 1 100 and verkel got an SS with double time and hard rock on.
Eyup fced it with 1 100 and verkel got an SS with double time and hard rock on.
Silvertide - Devil's Daughter [Easy] (#1 _-Black_Navy-_)
This player has 317,826 with no mods, an X, and 5 50s, whereas Auto can only spin up 284,172 with a perfect run without mods.
This player has 317,826 with no mods, an X, and 5 50s, whereas Auto can only spin up 284,172 with a perfect run without mods.
Legend of Zelda (easy) - Rank #1 and #2 (tldr thread, maybe mentioned before)
Devil Daughter Easy #1's score. No mod but score is higher than HardRock S.
So They Say [Normal].
Dakeyrus's combo is higher than the max combo. His score is as well.
Dakeyrus's combo is higher than the max combo. His score is as well.
Over the Distance [Normal] SecksyJennie's max combo is higher than others.
1. Yoko Shimomura - Cackletta Soul Battle - m980
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/2789 [Ranked]
(Insane: #1 score)
look at the replay
ummmmmmm, yeah.
Edit:
<peppy> hellavenger is gone
<peppy> deleted account
<peppy> banned ip range
<peppy> removed all scores
okay.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/2789 [Ranked]
(Insane: #1 score)
look at the replay
ummmmmmm, yeah.
Edit:
<peppy> hellavenger is gone
<peppy> deleted account
<peppy> banned ip range
<peppy> removed all scores
okay.
no u. (oops i page stretched)
Stats for Pickles (Offline): http://osu.ppy.sh/u/46036
Score: 31,387,102 (#1496)
Plays: 7 (lv20)
Accuracy: 99.78%
um
looks less hacked but is VERY suspicious
Score: 31,387,102 (#1496)
Plays: 7 (lv20)
Accuracy: 99.78%
um
...againAsh wrote:
1. Yoko Shimomura - Cackletta Soul Battle - m980
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/2789 [Ranked]
(Insane: #1 score)
look at the replay
looks less hacked but is VERY suspicious
Perhaps someone has found a way to hax auto-play and/or relax for their own benefit? Hidden/Flashlight/Double Time on that map, We Are Insane, and Pokerap; all SH's and XH's. Normally, I'd say that this person was just playing offline to practice and then logging in to play for real, but these 3 scores were all obtained within the same 2 hours. Definitely not possible.
What I find truly interesting, though, is he has two plays on Virus and no score. Wonder if it failed to work with his hax.
What I find truly interesting, though, is he has two plays on Virus and no score. Wonder if it failed to work with his hax.
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This new hacking really concerns me. I think these people need to be totally wiped before they spread their methods to other users.
Get out your banhammer, peppy.
Get out your banhammer, peppy.
Agreed.ThePassingShadow wrote:
Get out your banhammer, peppy.
Also...
Just Obtained 2nd for "Tsurupetan". (Easy)
xiaoyi54201.
I wasn't sure about posting this here, but I will anyways caus it's buggin the crap outta me. I wonder am I doing something wrong?
OK, #1 score guy has 4 100's with no mods.
#2 score person has 100% accuracy, no mods
Me, I get 100% accuracy with no mods and my points are like 75% of any of these top 10 people. So am I doing something wrong? I can't think of anything differently I could do. Does Osu! have some variability in the points?
Maybe it's the spinner, there is 1 in this beatmap, but man I guess these people are really good spinners. But 25,000 more points from a spinner, I guess it's possible.
Anyways the song is "1,2,3,4..007" on easy mode. For some reason my screenshot button isn't working in song select mode.
OK, #1 score guy has 4 100's with no mods.
#2 score person has 100% accuracy, no mods
Me, I get 100% accuracy with no mods and my points are like 75% of any of these top 10 people. So am I doing something wrong? I can't think of anything differently I could do. Does Osu! have some variability in the points?
Maybe it's the spinner, there is 1 in this beatmap, but man I guess these people are really good spinners. But 25,000 more points from a spinner, I guess it's possible.
Anyways the song is "1,2,3,4..007" on easy mode. For some reason my screenshot button isn't working in song select mode.
Yes, that's just the difference in spinner bonus.
Ok thanks Saturos. So I'm just a noob then.
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This score is still fishy O_O
I freaking SS'ed it. But he seems to have ended with like 20k more O_O and he A'ed it.
I freaking SS'ed it. But he seems to have ended with like 20k more O_O and he A'ed it.
all 4 top scores are above what auto gets with the given mods
1st to 4th of THIS IS SPARTAAAAAA!!!
There seems to be some sort of scoring error. All these scores, when replayed, clearly ended at 110k-ish (one even had a miss to the end) so there was no way these scores would have gotten that high if there wasn't a bug.
I posted because I ended up at 10th despite playing with three mods on.
There seems to be some sort of scoring error. All these scores, when replayed, clearly ended at 110k-ish (one even had a miss to the end) so there was no way these scores would have gotten that high if there wasn't a bug.
I posted because I ended up at 10th despite playing with three mods on.
I did all I could, literally, but couldn't get to the first place on "Neon Genesis Evangelion - Cruel Angel's Thesis" Easy difficulty.
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&b=12787
I know I'm not the best in spinners, but the #1 only has hardrock and doubletime on, when I have also hidden and flashlight, which is supposed to bring 0.22x more points. Should be enough to compensate my sucky spinners and win him with perfect score o.O Check the replays and correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't do any exact calculations. I'm #16 at the moment.
The #9 with no mods on looks kinda fishy too, but can't tell.
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&b=12787
I know I'm not the best in spinners, but the #1 only has hardrock and doubletime on, when I have also hidden and flashlight, which is supposed to bring 0.22x more points. Should be enough to compensate my sucky spinners and win him with perfect score o.O Check the replays and correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't do any exact calculations. I'm #16 at the moment.
The #9 with no mods on looks kinda fishy too, but can't tell.
Tormentor is legit, he's just ridiculous at spinning. Total points on this map is so small that spinner bonus can easily dwarf any mods in terms of points, so it's understandable.Willow wrote:
I did all I could, literally, but couldn't get to the first place on "Neon Genesis Evangelion - Cruel Angel's Thesis" Easy difficulty.
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&b=12787
I know I'm not the best in spinners, but the #1 only has hardrock and doubletime on, when I have also hidden and flashlight, which is supposed to bring 0.22x more points. Should be enough to compensate my sucky spinners and win him with perfect score o.O Check the replays and correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't do any exact calculations. I'm #16 at the moment.
The #9 with no mods on looks kinda fishy too, but can't tell.
#9 is questionable, though.
What?
Greater max combo = higher score generally
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Omg this is actually my first bord post O:
I'm not sure about this one.
I guess the scores were from an earlier version of the beatmap?
I don't know about the other difficulties, but at least easy mode seems off =/
I'm not sure about this one.
I guess the scores were from an earlier version of the beatmap?
I don't know about the other difficulties, but at least easy mode seems off =/
Is this possible?
In easy maps like that the score is all about the spinner.
And... the Combo?LuigiHann wrote:
In easy maps like that the score is all about the spinner.
Mine 296 and those... 298? (Note: Misses, 0 Mine)
The top 4 on that map are ancient scores when scoring methods were a bit different. I guess they snuck by without being purged.
#5 is where the actual legit scores start for that map.
#5 is where the actual legit scores start for that map.
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In Masayo Matsura - Paradise (Easy), I did it perfect with hidden, hardrock, double time and flashlight and i'm only the fourth. I've seen the replays of 1#HenkieBP, 2#Macned and 3#Quester 115 and the score doesn't look right...
bye, and sorry for my poor english
bye, and sorry for my poor english
http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=2834 <-- wtf @ top scores
replay looks normal though; just multiple accounts
replay looks normal though; just multiple accounts
#1 on kawada mami - sense [hard]
dodgy spinning technique?
the player spins differently at other replays..
i hope its legit
edit: after watching for a few times, i think its legit..
how the hell do they press circles that arent visible anymore
dodgy spinning technique?
the player spins differently at other replays..
i hope its legit
edit: after watching for a few times, i think its legit..
how the hell do they press circles that arent visible anymore
I am completely dumbfounded right now.
I saw Saturos's score for Three Point One Four [Hard] and decided to watch the replay. I have no idea what happened. I'm thinking this is someone else's playthrough. Watch the replay, I started laughing because it seems so unlike him. I wonder if it's just me though. :/ :\
If you see this post Saturos, watch the replay hahahahaha.
Here's a preview.
I saw Saturos's score for Three Point One Four [Hard] and decided to watch the replay. I have no idea what happened. I'm thinking this is someone else's playthrough. Watch the replay, I started laughing because it seems so unlike him. I wonder if it's just me though. :/ :\
If you see this post Saturos, watch the replay hahahahaha.
Here's a preview.
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There was a couple builds of test osu a few months ago that had broken replays for a few hours. This was probably one of them that I scored on during that time. ;xMetalDart wrote:
I am completely dumbfounded right now.
I saw Saturos's score for Three Point One Four [Hard] and decided to watch the replay. I have no idea what happened. I'm thinking this is someone else's playthrough. Watch the replay, I started laughing because it seems so unlike him. I wonder if it's just me though. :/ :\
If you see this post Saturos, watch the replay hahahahaha.
Here's a preview.
#1 on "Coldplay - Lost! [Easy]" dj-jimbo
I lol'd
This isn't possible, I guess?
I lol'd
This isn't possible, I guess?
Bogus lookin' #1 score here... Watched the replay and it didn't look like the score would come anywhere near the reported amount. Add in the fact that no mods were used, and... yeah, I'm pretty sure this score is bogus.
I would ask that the submitters in this topic please read the entire thing before submitting. Multiple postings of the same score don't help matters much.
Something's strange with this guy's replay (CtB, first place,Wizards in Winter [Insane]).
Last fruit:
Score screen:
Check it for yourselves.
The score is also kinda hard to believe, because auto play got only a bit higher than that. Seeing salad! playing CtB is awesome, due to its teleportation powers.
Last fruit:
Score screen:
Check it for yourselves.
The score is also kinda hard to believe, because auto play got only a bit higher than that. Seeing salad! playing CtB is awesome, due to its teleportation powers.
How does this work (same for the other two below him)? lol, can't view their replays
They got higher scores then me without mods, no 100% and also no spinners in this song
They got higher scores then me without mods, no 100% and also no spinners in this song
Those were the old scores before there was a new algorithm, or something like that.
As mentioned by Saturos here: viewtopic.php?p=63359#p63359
Or rather quoted:
As mentioned by Saturos here: viewtopic.php?p=63359#p63359
Or rather quoted:
Saturos wrote:
The top 4 on that map are ancient scores when scoring methods were a bit different. I guess they snuck by without being purged.
#5 is where the actual legit scores start for that map.
How can a B get top rank? So I went to check the score and voila.
Not sure if this is a repeated report though...
Not sure if this is a repeated report though...
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I remember this was mentioned in Chat weeks ago. Long story short, dj-jimbo was a spinner hacker. That's what peppy said at least. There was also a report similar to this on Okuru Kotoba...
Chozx
"You are an Idiot! [Easy]"
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/14648
I've done better then the the first and the second, spinners too.
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/14648
I've done better then the the first and the second, spinners too.
this is his score... (98% HardRock + Flashlight )
and watch mine now... ( with 100% Hidden + HardRock + Flashlight )
O_o'
i thought it would be spinners but in the replay he has a weird form of doin the spinners and gets low score on them
maybe a replay bug or a score bug? dunno
also 2nd place doesn't have replay and also other places show the same bug
pasonia also pointed this map before
and watch mine now... ( with 100% Hidden + HardRock + Flashlight )
O_o'
i thought it would be spinners but in the replay he has a weird form of doin the spinners and gets low score on them
maybe a replay bug or a score bug? dunno
also 2nd place doesn't have replay and also other places show the same bug
pasonia also pointed this map before
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hmmm faster than osu auto?
i have seen guys that spin at 400 - 470
and it shows the score
maybe thats a replay bug and he did spin fast but wth? 2 mods 98 vs 3 mods 100?
anyway thats not the case... also u can check the other places replays like larto's one?
and the 2nd place doesn't have replay
i have seen guys that spin at 400 - 470
and it shows the score
maybe thats a replay bug and he did spin fast but wth? 2 mods 98 vs 3 mods 100?
anyway thats not the case... also u can check the other places replays like larto's one?
and the 2nd place doesn't have replay
There is the new formula for score.... before that people can spin over 1000 spins per minute
The new formula is for calculating the spinning RPM and has no effect on score
So yeah, fuckgou321 is pretty good at osu!
Old quote yes, but same guy.UnknownID wrote:
How does this work (same for the other two below him)? lol, can't view their replays
They got higher scores then me without mods, no 100% and also no spinners in this song
Ignore the scribbles... there's no horribly embarassing score there, I swear ._.;;
But yea... fruit gets A-rank #1 with no mods and ShaggoN uses Hard Rock and Flashlight AND gets SS but #2? And there's no spinners at all, so those aren't a possible reason.
I found this odd:
The score is higher than usual for a [None] mod situation.
The score is higher than usual for a [None] mod situation.
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i am not sure about it is a repeat post.
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something about loituma- ievan polka.
dragoon's score is a lot larger than auto's score, even with the mod.
he got over 30k, but auto get only 20k, and my qmarco (spins around 475-477rpm) got only 199000.
it is weird, and if it is the ancient score, than i'll sorry about it.
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something about loituma- ievan polka.
dragoon's score is a lot larger than auto's score, even with the mod.
he got over 30k, but auto get only 20k, and my qmarco (spins around 475-477rpm) got only 199000.
it is weird, and if it is the ancient score, than i'll sorry about it.
Don't bot or you're gonna get banned for it
Wondergirls - Nobody [Easy], #1 score by KuGaMeZa on Taiko
So, yes found a verrry odd score:
Silver Forest - Tsurupettan [cx_time's Easy]
1. xiaoyi54201
Score: 611.758 Combo: 222
Mods: Hard Rock
(total spin bonus: 10K)
3. Wojjan (boastboast)
Score: 604.223 Combo: 222
Mods: Hidden, DoubleTime, Hard Rock, Flashlight
(total spin bonus: 163K)
This feels odd, if anything.
Silver Forest - Tsurupettan [cx_time's Easy]
1. xiaoyi54201
Score: 611.758 Combo: 222
Mods: Hard Rock
(total spin bonus: 10K)
3. Wojjan (boastboast)
Score: 604.223 Combo: 222
Mods: Hidden, DoubleTime, Hard Rock, Flashlight
(total spin bonus: 163K)
This feels odd, if anything.
Crystal Kay - Motherland's top three scores.
SS Hard Rock/Double Time/Flashlight beaten by S, S, and A sans mods. No spinners.
SS Hard Rock/Double Time/Flashlight beaten by S, S, and A sans mods. No spinners.
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how come ledzur did Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy), catch the beat mode with hardrock, double time , hidden and flashlight if u cant see at all? explain that to me -.- . smells to cheat* cough* extract.osu cough* i wont explain the extract stuff but if some of u played audi and changed some .acv files u know.
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-