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Winnyace


runner up for 1/10 keyboard
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Akumace1 wrote:


I live in a third world country
Like I said before, I don't rank Laptop keyboards. Sorry.

Winnyace wrote:



runner up for 1/10 keyboard
Looks like another rubber dome office board to me.

Well, at least it looks clean.

3/10

Edit: Since so many people posted similar keyboards that have the same ratings, I've grouped all of them into one ranking.
Foxi
Now this is my kinda thread.

Unfortunately, I have like 7 mechs, so I'm not sure which one to post.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Foxi wrote:

Now this is my kinda thread.

Unfortunately, I have like 7 mechs, so I'm not sure which one to post.
If you want you can post all 7 and I'll rank all of them lol.
abraker
One of the best keyboards you can get
Penguin

My keyboard is very crusty because I eat noodles and shit at my desk. I really hate cleaning keyboards and nobody else uses mine, so I don't really care.

Switches are Cherry Reds. Sounds like every single other Cherry Red switches, so I'm not gonna post a video for that.

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

I like keyboards. Post your keyboards here and I will rank them from 1 to 10.
This is not in any way, shape or form sexual.
:^)
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

abraker wrote:

One of the best keyboards you can get
It's one of the best in production stock keyboard that you can buy right now, yes.

Look wise, even though I don't like floating key designs and gamer keyboards, it looks pretty clean ngl.

Build quality is again average for a modern mechanical keyboard with metal mounting plate and braided cables.

The most interesting thing about the whole board though are the switches. The switches on the alpha block on this board are hall effects switches, which means they're contactless switches and therefore super smooth.
I don't have this keyboard but I've tried it on keyboard meetups before and the key feel is one of the smoothest I've felt. And because the switches are hall effects, the life time could potentially reach billions of keystrokes before you wear out one switch. So durability wise, it's literally imortal, unless you deliberately want to break it.

Being hall effects switches also means that you could set the actuation point of the switch so, despite it being light like cherry MX reds, I don't get nearly as many typos on it as I do with MX red switches. So that's one of the board's best feature imo.

There's also a screen on this keyboard that could display game related stuffs or animations or sruffs that you draw on it which is a nice touch.

Now on to the downsides.
First of all, the price. It's pretty pricey. With the same price you could get several other keyboards.
And there isn't a wide variety of switch choices either.
You can only get linear switches on this board. Although admittedly, they're one of the best linears out there.

The 2nd downside is that only the keys on the alpha block are hall effect switches. The others are normal mechanical switches.
Though this is a bit disappointing but I guess it's understandable since it'll be ridiculously priced if the whole board were to use hall effects switches.
I'd rather have the board only have hall effects on the alpha keys and stay at a reasonable price than to add more to the already high price tag.

3rd downside is the keycaps.
You'd think for the price they'd give you decent keycaps, but no they're just keycaps coated in black paint and then lasered.
This makes for very sharp looking keycaps and it makes the back lighting shines through quite well, but these caps aren't very durable and can wear off relatively quick, turning into blobs of light depending on how often you uses it.

Overall, a pricey premium keyboard but it actually have interesting features to back up it's high price.

8/10
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:


My keyboard is very crusty because I eat noodles and shit at my desk. I really hate cleaning keyboards and nobody else uses mine, so I don't really care.

Switches are Cherry Reds. Sounds like every single other Cherry Red switches, so I'm not gonna post a video for that.

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

I like keyboards. Post your keyboards here and I will rank them from 1 to 10.
This is not in any way, shape or form sexual.
:^)
Aesthetic wise, disregarding the crusty state of the board, it looks pretty clean and simple.
A bit plain but I like it. It doesn't try to be showy like most gamer keyboards out there.

Build quality again looks standard for modern mechanical keyboards. Decently tough.

The keycaps from what I read about it on their website said that it's double shot keycaps so it's very durable and the legends will never fade away.
One of the good thing about it is that it doesn't use a gamer cyber font nor the ugly stencil letters. It's just a normal font so it looks nice and clean.

Back lighting seems to be monochrome. But I think this is better than RGB. I don't like RGB or Back lighting as a whole anyways. And RGB lights can never produce a good "white" color so the white LED on this board is actually better than RGB in this case since the color perfectly fits the clean aesthetic of the board.

The weakest part of the board is probably the switches. I personally don't like the weighting of Cherry MX reds, but weighting is subjective.
However, cherry switches are all very scratchy and not that pleasant to use imo.
Even the cherry clones are much better than them. Gateron for example manufacture cheaper, yet much smoother switches than cherry does.

It's a shame that mainstream gaming keyboards usually stick with Cherry since that's what most people think is the best.
I think they're overpriced and overated switches.

Overall, a clean looking, functional mechanical keyboard.

6/10.
Penguin

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Penguin wrote:


My keyboard is very crusty because I eat noodles and shit at my desk. I really hate cleaning keyboards and nobody else uses mine, so I don't really care.

Switches are Cherry Reds. Sounds like every single other Cherry Red switches, so I'm not gonna post a video for that.

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

I like keyboards. Post your keyboards here and I will rank them from 1 to 10.
This is not in any way, shape or form sexual.
:^)
Aesthetic wise, disregarding the crusty state of the board, it looks pretty clean and simple.
A bit plain but I like it. It doesn't try to be showy like most gamer keyboards out there.

Build quality again looks standard for modern mechanical keyboards. Decently tough.

The keycaps from what I read about it on their website said that it's double shot keycaps so it's very durable and the legends will never fade away.
One of the good thing about it is that it doesn't use a gamer cyber font nor the ugly stencil letters. It's just a normal font so it looks nice and clean.

Back lighting seems to be monochrome. But I think this is better than RGB. I don't like RGB or Back lighting as a whole anyways. And RGB lights can never produce a good "white" color so the white LED on this board is actually better than RGB in this case since the color perfectly fits the clean aesthetic of the board.

The weakest part of the board is probably the switches. I personally don't like the weighting of Cherry MX reds, but weighting is subjective.
However, cherry switches are all very scratchy and not that pleasant to use imo.
Even the cherry clones are much better than them. Gateron for example manufacture cheaper, yet much smoother switches than cherry does.

It's a shame that mainstream gaming keyboards usually stick with Cherry since that's what most people think is the best.
I think they're overpriced and overated switches.

Overall, a clean looking, functional mechanical keyboard.

6/10.
I'm happy with this score. I feel like I should get bonus points for the price though. $50USD is a steal IMO for a keyboard like this.
Jonarwhal
"This is not in any way, shape or form sexual."

that's what they all say

regardless i am in laptop club
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:

I'm happy with this score. I feel like I should get bonus points for the price though. $50USD is a steal IMO for a keyboard like this.
Well for $40 you could get pretty similar Chinese gaming keyboards as well.
However, they'd almost always comes with ugly ass keycaps that are either lasered or double shot but with stencil letters.

So yeah, I guess I'll raise the score a bit.

6.3/10
keremaru
i can't take a picture of my laptop keyboard (because my tablet keeps crashing whenever i try to open the camera), so just imagine a 70 keyboard with a bunch of dead skin cells stuck to the keycaps.
and a touchstyk with a missing cushion, so there's a crap ton of (insert whatever the hell managed to get inside the gaps of my practically unusable touchstyk) that built up in the corners.
and more dead skin cells in the gaps between the keycaps.

and no, the stuff on my keycaps is NOT cum.
z0z
Taikah
Winnyace
@Taikah

you can use the [img] tag for that. on imgur, be sure to right click on the image and select 'Copy Image Location' or smth along those lines and paste it inbetween the tag so smth like this

[img]link[/img]
Taikah

Winnyace wrote:

@Taikah

you can use the [img] tag for that. on imgur, be sure to right click on the image and select Copy Image Location or smth along those lines.
aah I'm dumb, I was copy/pasting the direct link and not the image link LOL
Penguin

Taikah wrote:

this one probably secures the top spot for a while.
Winnyace

Taikah wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

@Taikah

you can use the [img] tag for that. on imgur, be sure to right click on the image and select Copy Image Location or smth along those lines.
aah I'm dumb, I was copy/pasting the direct link and not the image link LOL
it's fine. you seem to be new to the forums, so it's okay, at least in my book.

Penguin wrote:

this one probably secures the top spot for a while.
I agree. it looks very nice!
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

z0z wrote:

Looks like a logitech board.

Build quality wise, it's yet again, standard for modern mech boards.

This board have media control keys and a roller so they're pretty useful. I like that feature.

Now on to the switches. I'm not sure what model this is, but Logitech keyboards usually comes with either Cherry MX or Omron made "Romer G" switches and the latter is complete fucking cunt licking shit stain.
It's said to be a "tactile" switch but to that I say, your mum is tactile.
Seriously, without reading on them saying that they're tactile, I genuinely thought they were linear switches. They're even worst than cherry MX brown.

Keycaps wise, as you can see, it's lasered keycaps again, with an ugly ass cyber gamer font.
You can see it's been wearing away and the X key has turned into a blob because of that.
Worst yet, if it's using Romer G, it's almost impossible to find replacement keycaps once your keycaps eventually all wear off since they use a different mount than Cherry MX.

Overall, a very mediocre keyboard. It's decent and it works, but I wouldn't say that it's good.

5.5/10
Kolmas
Keychron K6 LK Red
Basically look like this
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Taikah wrote:

Build quality, again not much to talk about. Pretty standard.

Layout wise, it's a 60%. I personally can't stand 60%. I used one a while back and I had to get another board since I can't stand not having the nav keys and the F row.
Though keyboard layout is subjective so I'm not gonna fault it for that.

Switches wise, cherry MX silent is a pretty effective silent switch. One of my friend who is obsessed with noise had a board with them in it and yeah, they're quite silent. I'd say they're pretty close noise wise to a regular rubber dome keyboard and is even more quiet than some rubber domes.
If you also add foam into your keyboard case and maybe a dampening pad underneath it can even be more silent.
But yeah, it feels mushier than a normal mechanical switch. It's not as mushy as a rubber dome though.
The feel is still firmer, somewhere between a rubber dome keyboard and a regular mechanical switch.
I personally don't like the dampened feeling, but if you want a softer feeling switch then you might like it.
Smoothness wise, it's the same as regular cherry MX. Not very smooth.
But overall, it's a functional and effective switch.

Keycaps wise, oh dear.
Well they're taihao made caps so they're doubleshot so the legends will never fade away. Taihao caps are on the thinner side though so they fit pretty well on clicky switches since they make the sound louder. But even on a silenced switch I think they're fine, shouldn't make the sound too much louder, though I'd personally prefer thicker keycaps on them.
But I don't really like the rainbow vomit color. It's just not my thing.
But hey, at least it's using a normal font.

This is one of the case where I'd like to have a typing demonstration video to judge on the sound to see it's effectiveness in silencing the sound. But from what I see, it should still be fairly effective.

Overall, an okay, average keyboard.

6/10
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

tyhjyys wrote:

Keychron K6 LK Red
Basically look like this
Build quality wise, it depends on the version you get I suppose.
I think from what I remember they sold those keyboards in 2 configuration, either with a plastic case or aluminum case.
Although the alu case version is just plates of aluminum slid on the sides of a plastic case, so not a fully aluminum case.
Although, it's still better than most modern keyboards out there.

Layout wise, looks like 68%.
This layout has been pretty popular lately. It's basically between a 60% and a 75%.
I personally prefer more buttons on my keyboard, but if I have to use one with such layout, I would be fine with it.

Switches wise, looks like the version you got has optical switches.
I personally haven't tried these switches before, however I have tried the Gateron optical switches and the LK Libra switches on the Razer Huntsman TE before and both of those switches were very smooth.
The switches you got looks to be the 2nd gen of Optical switch from the same makers of the LK Libra switches that Razer used - which are 3rd gen switches. I'd like to name them here but I can't spell or pronounce their names and I'm too lazy to Google them so I'm gonna refrain from doing so.
So even though I haven't tried them out yet, since they're contactless and from what I tried before, I think it's safe to assume that they're pretty smooth also.

The keycaps is probably the board's weak point. They're not very particularly well made, but at least they looks nice and they use a regular font.

Overall, a decently built keyboard with smooth (maybe) switches.

6.7/10
Taikah

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Taikah wrote:

Build quality, again not much to talk about. Pretty standard.

Layout wise, it's a 60%. I personally can't stand 60%. I used one a while back and I had to get another board since I can't stand not having the nav keys and the F row.
Though keyboard layout is subjective so I'm not gonna fault it for that.

Switches wise, cherry MX silent is a pretty effective silent switch. One of my friend who is obsessed with noise had a board with them in it and yeah, they're quite silent. I'd say they're pretty close noise wise to a regular rubber dome keyboard and is even more quiet than some rubber domes.
If you also add foam into your keyboard case and maybe a dampening pad underneath it can even be more silent.
But yeah, it feels mushier than a normal mechanical switch. It's not as mushy as a rubber dome though.
The feel is still firmer, somewhere between a rubber dome keyboard and a regular mechanical switch.
I personally don't like the dampened feeling, but if you want a softer feeling switch then you might like it.
Smoothness wise, it's the same as regular cherry MX. Not very smooth.
But overall, it's a functional and effective switch.

Keycaps wise, oh dear.
Well they're taihao made caps so they're doubleshot so the legends will never fade away. Taihao caps are on the thinner side though so they fit pretty well on clicky switches since they make the sound louder. But even on a silenced switch I think they're fine, shouldn't make the sound too much louder, though I'd personally prefer thicker keycaps on them.
But I don't really like the rainbow vomit color. It's just not my thing.
But hey, at least it's using a normal font.

This is one of the case where I'd like to have a typing demonstration video to judge on the sound to see it's effectiveness in silencing the sound. But from what I see, it should still be fairly effective.

Overall, an okay, average keyboard.

6/10
Completely fair and was expecting a similar score to yours or lower. My choice in getting a 60% keyboard rather than a full was completely due to my desk size and this was the perfect opportunity to try out a smaller keyboard because why not? Though, if given the chance, I'd gladly go back to a full keyboard any day.

Agree with ya on the thicker key caps, the thinness of these keycaps have a higher pitch sound and quality wise, feels cheaper than the default keys I had prior to when buying this keyboard.

Going from a Logitech G910, this Keyboard felt more personalized as I wanted to match the theme of my desktop setup which generalized in the sunset ocean theme. Once I have the money to invest, I'll definitely want to try and reach out to custom KB makers like Taeha Types or Susboards.

Really appreciate the time you took on judging my keyboard, thanks Tad ❤
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Taikah wrote:

Completely fair and was expecting a similar score to yours or lower. My choice in getting a 60% keyboard rather than a full was completely due to my desk size and this was the perfect opportunity to try out a smaller keyboard because why not? Though, if given the chance, I'd gladly go back to a full keyboard any day.

Agree with ya on the thicker key caps, the thinness of these keycaps have a higher pitch sound and quality wise, feels cheaper than the default keys I had prior to when buying this keyboard.

Going from a Logitech G910, this Keyboard felt more personalized as I wanted to match the theme of my desktop setup which generalized in the sunset ocean theme. Once I have the money to invest, I'll definitely want to try and reach out to custom KB makers like Taeha Types or Susboards.

Really appreciate the time you took on judging my keyboard, thanks Tad ❤
No problem, glad you enjoyed my rating!
Nuuskamuikkunen
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

eblf2013 wrote:

Interesting layout.

But yeah, it looks shit.

3/10
Lapizote
looks like my keyboard still reigns supreme in being a POS.
Isshiki Kaname
Aight, rate my second keyboard.
Nuuskamuikkunen

KatouMegumi wrote:

Aight, rate my second keyboard.
I'm not tad but:
-1/10
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

eblf2013 wrote:

KatouMegumi wrote:

Aight, rate my second keyboard.
I'm not tad but:
-1/10
There you have it then.
Corne2Plum3
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Rate my mobile keyboard then
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pQTXJ_YuGrInC37mv_BFY2GYDZOwOCpA/view?usp=drivesdk
No, thank you.
Corne2Plum3

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Rate my mobile keyboard then
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pQTXJ_YuGrInC37mv_BFY2GYDZOwOCpA/view?usp=drivesdk
No, thank you.
Why ;_;?
abraker
Tad, the numpad are hall switches too. They just don't have firmware support set actuation prob due to the way it is wired up.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

abraker wrote:

Tad, the numpad are hall switches too. They just don't have firmware support set actuation prob due to the way it is wired up.
Huh I see.
Well, even so that won't change my rating.
ninore
tad, rate my mobile keyboard too, please.

Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

nedd83 wrote:

tad, rate my mobile keyboard too, please.

no/10
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci
My current keyboard.





It's the KC84 hotswappable keyboard. I'm currently using lubed and filmed Gateron Milky Yellows on it.
Here's a quick typing demo.



The sound quality and camera angle isn't the best since I'm using my phone for this.
Winnyace
looks very nice. the switches sound very nice as well. how do they feel tho?
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Winnyace wrote:

looks very nice. the switches sound very nice as well. how do they feel tho?
They doesn't feel as smooth as contactless switches. That much is obvious.
But they honestly felt smoother than I anticipated.

They took lubing and filming very nicely and they felt much better after.
Although they're not as smooth as contactless switches, I actually prefer them to some contactless switches since those are often very light, but with these switches they're around 50g of actuation, around mid weight so they fits me better personally. And they're smooth enough for the typing experience to be pleasant. Certainly much better than cherry MX.

And best yet, compared to other premium switches, they're dirt cheap.
Winnyace
I see.. too bad we here in Romania don't have such a big board market, so loose switches and pretty everything you need for to make a custom board isn't for sale here, which makes me kinda of sad. either way, hoping more people post their boards here.
Lapizote
oh yeah, I've been eyeing on this board for a while now. hotswappable with cherry mx, gateron, and kalih switches and is "relatively" cheap (probably will get expensive if i use expensive switches for it)

maybe next year.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Winnyace wrote:

I see.. too bad we here in Romania don't have such a big board market, so loose switches and pretty everything you need for to make a custom board isn't for sale here, which makes me kinda of sad. either way, hoping more people post their boards here.
I see. That's kind of sad.
Hope you'll be able to experience the joy of building your own custom keyboard one day.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

axl2468 wrote:

oh yeah, I've been eyeing on this board for a while now. hotswappable with cherry mx, gateron, and kalih switches and is "relatively" cheap (probably will get expensive if i use expensive switches for it)

maybe next year.
That looks like a nice beginner board to start customizing and experiencing new switches.

Keyboard kit keyboards are pretty popular lately too. My current keyboard is one of them as well. I got it without switches and keycaps so it's relatively cheap.

But yeah, if you account for the switches and custom keycaps, the price is similar to a normal mechanical keyboard, although you get to customize it more than a pre-built keyboard.
abraker
You know this means someone has to rate Tad's keyboard, right?
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

abraker wrote:

You know this means someone has to rate Tad's keyboard, right?
Well, it's just something I wanted to share.
But if someone wanted to rate it then they should feel free to do so.
Penguin

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

abraker wrote:

You know this means someone has to rate Tad's keyboard, right?
Well, it's just something I wanted to share.
But if someone wanted to rate it then they should feel free to do so.
well, I'm not a keyboard expert, but I think it's pretty cool. We need to find another keyboard expert to rate Tad's keyboard without there being any bias.

I'm pretty sure there's a few keyboard fans in OT.
Winnyace
I do like keyboards, it's just that I haven't tried mechanical keyboards besides the ones at a store
Penguin

Just got this keyboard today. I've never used any switch other than Cherry Reds, so switching to these browns has been a little weird. It's not too different when it comes to actuation force, but it definitely feels weird to my fingers. I'm still not sure whether I like it or not. I ordered some glorious pandas to try them out, but they're not going to get here for another month most likely. As for lubing, I'm going to purchase some lube today and try it out once it arrives. Should be a lot better once I do that.

I kind of impulse bought this keyboard the other day. I did a lot more research about keyboards while the GMMK was shipping and I realized that there is a lot about keyboards that I was unaware about. I'm still happy with this keyboard purchase overall, but I'm definitely not going to quit here.
Winnyace
the keycaps look very nice
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:


Just got this keyboard today. I've never used any switch other than Cherry Reds, so switching to these browns has been a little weird. It's not too different when it comes to actuation force, but it definitely feels weird to my fingers. I'm still not sure whether I like it or not. I ordered some glorious pandas to try them out, but they're not going to get here for another month most likely. As for lubing, I'm going to purchase some lube today and try it out once it arrives. Should be a lot better once I do that.

I kind of impulse bought this keyboard the other day. I did a lot more research about keyboards while the GMMK was shipping and I realized that there is a lot about keyboards that I was unaware about. I'm still happy with this keyboard purchase overall, but I'm definitely not going to quit here.
Owh very nice.

Aesthetics wise, even though it's not really my cup of tea, it looks nice and clean. Again, pretty similar to your previous keyboard, although I liked how that board looked better since it looked slightly thicker if I'm not mistaken.
The lock lights on top of the arrow keys are quite minimalist, but they still do stand out a little bit and affected on the board's clean look.
But overall, not bad.

Build quality wise, pretty standard again. Though it's a floating key design and no bezels so side knocks can potentially damage the key switches.

GMMK is a hot swap keyboard so they're quite useful if you want to try out different types of switches. However, on the models I've seen they often don't have holes for PCB mount switches and that limits the types of switches that it can use.
Although you could still use PCB mount switches on it, you'd need to clip off the plastic legs for them to fit.
It's a workaround, but it's quite time consuming and for some switches that uses different materials for their switch housings, it could be quite challenging to clip them off. Personally, I think you shouldn't have to modify your switches so much in order for them to work so it's quite a big oversight for the GMMK.

From the photos alone, it's hard to know for sure the quality of the caps. They look like they're either back lit keycaps, or they're grey on white keycaps.
Although since the legends are in the middle, if I have to guess I'd say that they're back lit caps.
Obviously I can't comment on the quality of the keycaps since I don't know the materials. But it looks nice and clean, just like the board with a normal font. Would've been better if the legends were in the top left of the caps where they should be though, but I guess being in the middle would work better for back lighting.

Now on to the switches.
This is probably the worst thing about the board so far. Brown MX switches from any manufacturer are fucking horrible imo. Kailh Box browns are probably the best out of them, but they're still not good switches imo.
MX browns, or in this case, Gateron browns are supposed to be tactile but honestly, the tactility feels more like an oversight than an actual thought out switch design.
It feels like they were trying to make a linear switch but fucked up and just call it MX browns and say that it's a tactile switch instead.
I honestly think that it feels exactly like red switches, but just scratchier.

I have heard about the Glorious Panda switches, but I have not tried them out myself yet. Although, I have tried the switches that they were based on - Holy Pandas, before and personally, I didn't get the hype.
They were tactile, sure. But they felt kinda meh. They're not effortlessly smooth like linear switches, nor are they satisfyingly tactile like Kailh BOX clickies.
They're personally not for me, and for their ridiculous price I certainly think that they're not worth it. Their sounds are pretty nice though ngl.
Although if compared to MX browns, they're still a big upgrade compared to that.

The best tactile switch that I liked the best was probably tactile Alps switches from an Apple Keyboard back in the day that I got to borrow from a meetup. They feel really nice and smooth and the sound was amazing. Although it was a while ago so I don't remember which particular switch it was though. But yeah they're a joy to type on. It was the board that changed my mind about how I thought that all tactile switches are shit since I've only tried MX tactile switches.
I honestly think that rubber domes, especially the well made ones are even better than MX tactile switches.

Well, that was just me ranting.

Overall, a nice and clean looking keyboard with a workable layout but got held back by it's switches, though that can be easily changed since it's a hot swap keyboard so I'm not gonna be too harsh on the raing.

6.5/10
Penguin

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Though it's a floating key design and no bezels so side knocks can potentially damage the key switches.
yeah, after looking at more types of keyboards, I definitely prefer enclosed keycaps.

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

From the photos alone, it's hard to know for sure the quality of the caps. They look like they're either back lit keycaps, or they're grey on white keycaps.
Although since the legends are in the middle, if I have to guess I'd say that they're back lit caps.
Obviously I can't comment on the quality of the keycaps since I don't know the materials. But it looks nice and clean, just like the board with a normal font. Would've been better if the legends were in the top left of the caps where they should be though, but I guess being in the middle would work better for back lighting.
The keycaps are backlit abs doubleshot. They are pretty much the exact same as my other keyboard. This keyboard has full rgb though, which I keep turned off 100% of the time.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:

The keycaps are backlit abs doubleshot. They are pretty much the exact same as my other keyboard. This keyboard has full rgb though, which I keep turned off 100% of the time.
Lol same.
Whenever I have a backlit or RBG board, I only use it with the lights on for like 3 days until it's turned into an eye sore and I have it permanently off.
Penguin

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Penguin wrote:

The keycaps are backlit abs doubleshot. They are pretty much the exact same as my other keyboard. This keyboard has full rgb though, which I keep turned off 100% of the time.
Lol same.
Whenever I have a backlit or RBG board, I only use it with the lights on for like 3 days until it's turned into an eye sore and I have it permanently off.
yeah, I want to get a board with no rgb, but I feel like thats hard to come by unless you are going custom made.

also, I've done a few side by side tests with both my keyboards now. and I can 100% say that the GMMK sounds a lot better than the km360. Still sounds like poop, but not as bad. The stabilizers in the gmmk are actually good. The actual keys don't sound as scratchy as the cherry reds. still scratchy though. I like the feel of the linear switches better. browns feel like shit.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:

yeah, I want to get a board with no rgb, but I feel like thats hard to come by unless you are going custom made.

also, I've done a few side by side tests with both my keyboards now. and I can 100% say that the GMMK sounds a lot better than the km360. Still sounds like poop, but not as bad. The stabilizers in the gmmk are actually good. The actual keys don't sound as scratchy as the cherry reds. still scratchy though. I like the feel of the linear switches better. browns feel like shit.
Great to hear that the stabs are actually nice. Although, I still suggest moding it yourself since even great stock stabs are still a bit rattly. the differences between unmodded stabs and modded stabs are is pretty huge.

And yeah, I think the switches being smoother than cherry reds because it's Gateron. Although Gateron browns have the same design as cherry brown so they're equally as bad.
But yeah, it's a hot swap board so switches can be changed easily.
Penguin

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Penguin wrote:

yeah, I want to get a board with no rgb, but I feel like thats hard to come by unless you are going custom made.

also, I've done a few side by side tests with both my keyboards now. and I can 100% say that the GMMK sounds a lot better than the km360. Still sounds like poop, but not as bad. The stabilizers in the gmmk are actually good. The actual keys don't sound as scratchy as the cherry reds. still scratchy though. I like the feel of the linear switches better. browns feel like shit.
Great to hear that the stabs are actually nice. Although, I still suggest moding it yourself since even great stock stabs are still a bit rattly. the differences between unmodded stabs and modded stabs are is pretty huge.

And yeah, I think the switches being smoother than cherry reds because it's Gateron. Although Gateron browns have the same design as cherry brown so they're equally as bad.
But yeah, it's a hot swap board so switches can be changed easily.
I really want to get some milky yellows for this board, but I can't seem to find any 3 pin versions. I also don't want to go through the extra effort of modifying them to fit a 3 pin board, so I'll probably just wait to get some yellows whenever I get another hotswap 5 pin board.

actually, now that I think about it.. what's the actual difference between black bottom clear top gat yellows versus milky yellows? I can get the former in 3 pin and if it's not much of a difference between the two, then I may as well get them for my gmmk.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:

I really want to get some milky yellows for this board, but I can't seem to find any 3 pin versions. I also don't want to go through the extra effort of modifying them to fit a 3 pin board, so I'll probably just wait to get some yellows whenever I get another hotswap 5 pin board.

actually, now that I think about it.. what's the actual difference between black bottom clear top gat yellows versus milky yellows? I can get the former in 3 pin and if it's not much of a difference between the two, then I may as well get them for my gmmk.
They're basically the same switches but with different housing materials.
It won't affect smoothness or performance so the 2 are very similar. However, I found the switches with the clear housing have a higher pitched sound, so they don't sound as good as milky housing or black nylon housing.

But if you don't mind the pitch, I'd say they're pretty good.
If you do decide to grab them though, do try and lube them. They work really well with lubing.
Filming them also improves the sound but I'd say they're not that important since they don't affect key feel. it does makes the sound quite a lot deeper and nicer though. Less high pitched.
sadave
acer aspire 5 laptop keyboard
Winnyace
Tad doesn't review laptop keyboards
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci
SO I just bought and try out Cherry plate mount stabilizers.

Here's what I think.
I bought them because they were hyped in the community to be a very thocky, clacky and nice stabs.
So yeah I got them.
Clipped and lubed them, all that good stuff.

I literally used them for 5 mins and then changed back to my old stabs.
They're fucking shit.

Seriously, they're overhyped as fuck.
My first impression of them is that they're scratchier than my old stabs.
Okay, smoothness isn't too important for stabilized keys anyways, at least for me. If it sounds nicer and less rattly, I'm fine with it being a bit scratchier.
But no, they sounded higher pitched, very inconsistent and rattly as hell.
I even relubed them several times just to make sure that it wasn't just because of me doing a bad job lubing them, but no.
They just sounded like that. They're fucking horrible.

I guess they're not so much different to cherry switches lol.
Mediocre and scratchy.
Penguin
how were they mounted?

What kind of stabs are you currently using? Also, have you tried gmk stabs?
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:

What kind of stabs are you currently using? Also, have you tried gmk stabs?
I'm currently just using the stock stabs of the KC84. They don't have branding anywhere on them so I'm not sure who made them. But they look exactly like Gateron stabs so I'm guessing that they are Gateron stabs.

And no, I don't think I've tried GMK stabs yet. I might have in meetups before but if I did, I wasn't aware of it. Usually I'm more interested about switches so that's what I mostly focused on.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci
There hasn't been any new keyboards recently, so I decided to share one of the more interesting keyboard that I own.

https://i.imgur.com/oDZeghy.jpg

This is a Japanese keyboard that I'm not sure what it's name is so I'm just gonna call it the Century keyboard since the manufacturing company is called Century.

What's interesting about this board is that it uses Alps style switches. Though they're not genuine Alps, they're Alps clones.



This is what the switches and the stabilizers looks like.
It took me 5 minutes to reattach the stabs back into it's original positions lol.

It also came in a very interesting looking box.

https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/discord/786935303977435136-786935409942069288-Century_KB_3.jpg

Ngl I kinda like it lol.

Look wise, the board looks quite simple. Although the metal colored case looks funky.
The Japanese keycaps gives the board quite a nice look though imo.
Overall, it's not a bad looking board.

On to the build quality, it has a plastic case and a metal mounting plate. Although I thought the plate was plastic at first since the board itself is relatively light for a full size keyboard and it flexes a lot when you twist it.
I think the board is fairly decently built, although it feels a bit floppy.

The switches feels quite interesting. It feels nothing like any other MX type switches.
I first got this board a few years ago for $30 from a guy on a mechanical keyboard group online I'm a member of. It was brand new as well, so it was a pretty good deal I think.
At the time that I got this board, the only clicky switches that I've ever tried were MX blues and it's clones and the Alps clone switches on it blew my mind.
Compared to the Cherry MX blues on the keyboard that I was using atm, it's much more tactile, louder and higher pitched.
And when I say tactile, I meant tactile. It made the MX blues feel absolutely linear by comparison.
The only switches that are even more tactile that I've tried is probably Kailh BOX Jades and Navies.
It was much smoother than MX Blues too. Though it's not really a smooth switch I'd say.

The tactility was very satisfying. However, the switches feels a bit rough and unrefined.
I have not tried genuine clicky Alps switches yet so I can't compare these switches to those. However, compared to the genuine tactile Alps switches that I've tried, the Alps switches doesn't feel as rough, smoother and more comfortable to use. Though this comparison might not be fair since they're in 2 different categories of keyboard switches.

The Keycaps are made out of ABS and they are pad printed, so they're not of very good quality. I'd reckon the legends won't last very long if I were to use this board a lot.

This board uses the JIS layout, which could come with either an ISO enter key or a big ass enter key. Tbh, I'd prefer the big ass enter key better but this one comes with an ISO enter.
However, the backspace key is reduced to a single unit key to make place for the missing key, which makes it too small for my liking. And no, I can't get used to it. I need a full sized backspace in my life.
The spacebar was also shortened. This makes it harder to hit, although it's not too bad on this particular board. I've seen JIS boards with even smaller spacebars and those I can't stand using.

Overall, quite an interesting keyboard. The switches are satisfying but they're pretty rough feeling.
I'd love to use it more, but the single unit backspace key is a deal breaker for me, which is why I don't use it very often lol.

Also, here's a sound test.



Edit: For some reason some of the pics won't show up so I'll just post the links instead.
Akumace1
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Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Akumace1 wrote:

Tad. What is your opinion on Ahegao Anime keycaps?
Ngl, I'm kinda tempted to try them out for the memes.

But no, I'm not willing to throw away my humanity just yet.
Akumace1
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Tad Fibonacci

Akumace1 wrote:

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Akumace1 wrote:

Tad. What is your opinion on Ahegao Anime keycaps?
Ngl, I'm kinda tempted to try them out for the memes.

But no, I'm not willing to throw away my humanity just yet.
Very interesting. Mr Keybaord Expert, What is your opinion on curved keyboards?
By curved keyboards, if you meant ergo keyboards then I'm not a fan.
They're just too weird for me.

Also, I wouldn't call myself a keyboard expert. There are a lot of keyboard stuffs that I haven't experienced for myself.
I'm just a guy on the internet that likes keyboards to a concerning degree.
abraker
what about a 103 year old keyboard?

Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci
I don't know much about type writers, but from what I heard Olivetti type writers are some of the best ones out there.

Also, I'm a bit disappointed that abraker doesn't use an IBM keyboard despite calling himself a mad scientist smh.
Winnyace
what does the keyboard expert, Tad Fibonacci, think of scissor switches?
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Winnyace wrote:

what does the keyboard expert, Tad Fibonacci, think of scissor switches?
You mean the ones in laptops and chicklet keyboards?

Don't like em. They're quite tactile but the travel is very short and that in combination with flat keycaps doesn't provide a enjoyable typing experience imo.
I don't type very fast on them and they hurt my fingers if I type on them for too long.

Although, some people really likes them for some reason.
abraker
I have an IBM thinkpad I broke
Winnyace

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

what does the keyboard expert, Tad Fibonacci, think of scissor switches?
You mean the ones in laptops and chicklet keyboards?

Don't like em. They're quite tactile but the travel is very short and that in combination with flat keycaps doesn't provide a enjoyable typing experience imo.
I don't type very fast on them and they hurt my fingers if I type on them for too long.

Although, some people really likes them for some reason.
yeah those.

I do want to try them out, especially with playing games. after some time, all of my membrane keyboards start to get loud. maybe I just press too hard on them or something.

abraker wrote:

I have an IBM thinkpad I broke
rip.... I heard those laptops are some of the greatest made and have good keyboards, at least the older models. I wonder how true is that statement
Lapizote
TIL thinkpads were sold by IBM before Lenovo started selling it.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

abraker wrote:

I have an IBM thinkpad I broke
That's not an IBM keyboard.
THIS is an IBM keyboard.



A keboard fit for any aspiring mad scientist out there.

Winnyace wrote:

yeah those.

I do want to try them out, especially with playing games. after some time, all of my membrane keyboards start to get loud. maybe I just press too hard on them or something.
For playing video games (or anything else really lol), I don't really recommend a chicklet switch.

If you an afford it then you should definitely go mechanical.
If not, then I suggest getting an old but tough rubber dome keyboard. Especially dome with slider keyboards. Those usually feel much better than normal rubber domes and their boards are also usually much more well built.
Some even have Cherry stems lol.
Winnyace

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

If you an afford it then you should definitely go mechanical.
If not, then I suggest getting an old but tough rubber dome keyboard. Especially dome with slider keyboards. Those usually feel much better than normal rubber domes and their boards are also usually much more well built.
Some even have Cherry stems lol.
I don't really have the money and even if I had, most boards here have Outemu Blue switches which is a massive no. I have my computer where my parents sit and I also hate loud switches in general
Lapizote

Winnyace wrote:

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

If you an afford it then you should definitely go mechanical.
If not, then I suggest getting an old but tough rubber dome keyboard. Especially dome with slider keyboards. Those usually feel much better than normal rubber domes and their boards are also usually much more well built.
Some even have Cherry stems lol.
I don't really have the money and even if I had, most boards here have Outemu Blue switches which is a massive no. I have my computer where my parents sit and I also hate loud switches in general
if by any chance that you had the budget and it's available in your country, consider getting a tecware phantom tkl. they sell variations with outemu browns or reds.
Phantonym
Do 2-Key keypad counts?
I made it myself.

Yes, im poor lol
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

ChargeIon wrote:

Do 2-Key keypad counts?
I made it myself.

Yes, im poor lol
Well I don't think that this would count as a key'board' anymore.
But, the keypad you've made looks pretty chunky, so I'm guessing that it's heavier and better built than most Osu keypads that you could buy online. Which is good since the keypads that are too light slides and moves around a lot while being used and that's quite annoying.
Winnyace

axl2468 wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

If you an afford it then you should definitely go mechanical.
If not, then I suggest getting an old but tough rubber dome keyboard. Especially dome with slider keyboards. Those usually feel much better than normal rubber domes and their boards are also usually much more well built.
Some even have Cherry stems lol.
I don't really have the money and even if I had, most boards here have Outemu Blue switches which is a massive no. I have my computer where my parents sit and I also hate loud switches in general
if by any chance that you had the budget and it's available in your country, consider getting a tecware phantom tkl. they sell variations with outemu browns or reds.
buy from Amazon is super expensive and sadly I don't have it available. maybe some day I'll buy one, but for now, I'm perfectly okay with what I have. I need a better computer anyway, not a mechanical keyboard.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci
Haven't had any new boards for a while.
abraker said he'd post the 2 keyboards he found in a dumpster here but he's taking his sweet time doing it.

In the mean time, here's a typing demo of Kailh BOX Jades with SA keycaps.



These switches are extremely tactile. One of the most tactile switches I've ever felt. Although, for me they're a just too over the top with the tactility lol.
They feel really nice and satisfying though.

They're also very loud despite how it may sound on my phone's microphone.
abraker
I'll post it by 1/3
Winnyace
since this is a keyboard thread, I guess we can talk about keyboard layouts. so, have you guys tried other keyboard layouts besides qwerty?
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Winnyace wrote:

since this is a keyboard thread, I guess we can talk about keyboard layouts. so, have you guys tried other keyboard layouts besides qwerty?
I saw a guy who brought his Dvorak keyboard with him during a meetup and got to try it.

Obviously I can't type sufficiently with it, and I can't be bothered to learn the layout.
I'm just too used to Qwerty.

Edit: Also, I don't really think that the speed improvement in typing would be worth it to learn Dvorak. If you can already type fast with QWERTY then I don't really think learning Dvorak would improve your speed by that much.
Not to mention the only good thing about Dvorak is with typing. Using it as a daily driver would suck since now the keys are in a different location, windows or even mac shortcuts are much harder to use.
For example Crtl C, v and z on Dvorak are very far from each other so you either have to reach further or have to use 2 hands in order to use them.

Not to mention gaming on that thing lol.
Winnyace
I see. since my typing speed is quite bad and I'm a massive hipster, I did try out Dvorak, but I got too used to Qwerty.
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci
Oh yeah, not to mention, you type quicker with Dvorak since it puts all the letters that are used the most in the middle row.
That works well in English, however if you translate that to other language, it doesn't hold up.

So yeah, depending on the language you type, it won't really be faster than QWERTY and might actually be even slower.
Nikolai
Current collection: OTD 360c, TGR Jane v2 ce, HHKB pro 1, FLX Virgo, Dolphin v3

I've owned like 20+ kustoms/customs in the past :)
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Nikolai wrote:

Current collection: OTD 360c, TGR Jane v2 ce, HHKB pro 1, FLX Virgo, Dolphin v3

I've owned like 20+ kustoms/customs in the past :)
Yeah, I wish I'm rich enough to own that many lol.
Nikolai

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Nikolai wrote:

Current collection: OTD 360c, TGR Jane v2 ce, HHKB pro 1, FLX Virgo, Dolphin v3

I've owned like 20+ kustoms/customs in the past :)
Yeah, I wish I'm rich enough to own that many lol.
Just gotta have connections to not worry about fcfs group buys or get in private ones :cool:
_ralsei

switches: logitech gx blues
keyboard: logitech g pro
sounds:
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

_ralsei wrote:


switches: logitech gx blues
keyboard: logitech g pro
sounds:
Aesthetics wise, I think I like it.
It looks pretty clean, but the top bezel looks a bit out of place because of how thick it is.
But overall, not a bad looking board.

Build quality wise, not much to talk about. Metal mounting plate yadi yadi yada.
It's what you'd expect from a standard mechanical keyboard.

The keycaps looks fine. Although it uses a square looking font so it doesn't look as good as a normal font. Well, at least it doesn't use a cyber font and try to be hip and cool.
But from what I see, they looks like your standard lazered keycaps so they won't last very long I reckon.

I did a quick Google search for the switches since I've never heard of them before. But I think it's just another Cherry MX blue clone.
Assuming they're like Cherry blues, I think they're not bad but I don't really like them. The tactility is a bit on the weaker side and the sounds that those switches produce is pretty unpleasant.
They sound plasticky, rattly and high pitched.
They're the type of switches that you can instantly recognize through voice chats and such lol.

By the look of it, this board uses the German layout or the QWERTZ layout. It also uses an ISO enter key. I personally likes ISO enters better than ANSI enters since I sometimes miss while trying to hit the enter key while using ANSI enter. Although, ISO keyboards usually shortens the left shift key to make space for the missing key. And since I type exclusively with the left shift, this would be an disadvantage for me. But yeah layout is subjective, even more so than switch feel so I won't lower it's score for that.
I think the better way to do it would be putting the missing key where the windows key would be, or to split the right shift key and put it on the right of the right shift.

Overall, an okay keyboard. 5.5/10
Penguin
I noticed something very odd with my GMMK while playing osu today. I noticed that while my RBG is on, I have a weird chord splitting effect, as if my polling rate is really trash. I then tested it without RGB on, and the effect is gone.

these pictures are from the first 100 combo of the same map.


for some reason, the RGB on this keyboard seems to affect the polling rate somehow? it's very odd. As soon as I turned my RGB off, I instantly got a lot better acc on ColdTooth's new map. went from high 97% - low 98%, all the way up to 99%+ acc.
Lapizote

Penguin wrote:

I noticed something very odd with my GMMK while playing osu today. I noticed that while my RBG is on, I have a weird chord splitting effect, as if my polling rate is really trash. I then tested it without RGB on, and the effect is gone.

these pictures are from the first 100 combo of the same map.


for some reason, the RGB on this keyboard seems to affect the polling rate somehow? it's very odd. As soon as I turned my RGB off, I instantly got a lot better acc on ColdTooth's new map. went from high 97% - low 98%, all the way up to 99%+ acc.
i remember someone on G&R posting something similar.

community/forums/topics/1154270
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Penguin wrote:

I noticed something very odd with my GMMK while playing osu today. I noticed that while my RBG is on, I have a weird chord splitting effect, as if my polling rate is really trash. I then tested it without RGB on, and the effect is gone.

these pictures are from the first 100 combo of the same map.


for some reason, the RGB on this keyboard seems to affect the polling rate somehow? it's very odd. As soon as I turned my RGB off, I instantly got a lot better acc on ColdTooth's new map. went from high 97% - low 98%, all the way up to 99%+ acc.
Welp, another reason to not use RGB lol.
Meguro
finally, a proper mech keyboard to post here. It's a Fuhlen M87S TKL Keyboard

Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Meguro wrote:

finally, a proper mech keyboard to post here. It's a Fuhlen M87S TKL Keyboard

Aesthetics wise, it looks okay I suppose.
I like the shape of the case. Looks pretty non aggressive and clean.
The lock lights on the right side of the board looks a bit out of place though, I don't know how I feel about that.

Build quality is similar to most keyboards posted in this thread. About what you'd expect from a modern mechanical keyboard.

The keycaps from what I found are made out of ABS doubleshot, so they're very durable and the legends will never fade away. However, the font they used for this board is fuck ugly.
It's a combination of the cyber gamer font and the stenciled font.
It kinda ruined the board sleek aesthetics imo.

Switches wise, from what I found it only comes will Cherry MX blue clones. I'm not sure which manufacturer made them but tbh it doesn't really matter much since they feel virtually the same and they all sound very annoying. You can recognize their infamous sound from a mile away.

The board is pretty meh, but I guess on the bright side, it's dirt cheap. You can get it for only $30 from the sites that I've found them on. So I guess that's the board's biggest strength, although you don't get a lot of choice in switches.

Overall, an okay keyboard. 5/10

PS: I've also noticed the scroll lock and pause break buttons are damaged and warped. Looks kinda like cigarette marks to me. Although this isn't inherent to the board so I'm not gonna lower it's scores because of that.
Hydreigon
aight tad, how would you rate my new keyboard

look, it has lights now
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci

Hydreigon wrote:

aight tad, how would you rate my new keyboard

look, it has lights now
Hmm I can't find the exact model on Google so I'll need additional info before I judge it.
ninore

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Hydreigon wrote:

aight tad, how would you rate my new keyboard

look, it has lights now
Hmm I can't find the exact model on Google so I'll need additional info before I judge it.
probably a standard rubber dome keyboard
looks like it's made of plastic
i think it's just one of those cheap "gamer" keyboards
you can judge by that i suppose
Hydreigon

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

Hmm I can't find the exact model on Google so I'll need additional info before I judge it.
https://www.fantech.com.ph/product/fantech-k511-hunter/
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