ClariS - Hitorigoto -TV MIX- · forum

Little

Joined November 2012

Little 2017-04-16T21:27:34+00:00

Pentori wrote:
[General]
hitsounding can be improved a bit the 1/4 feedback is a little lacking in some areas (referring to top diff here):
00:23:445 (8,9) - could add whistles from 00:23:536 - here to represent the kick drums Added whistle at 00:23:717 (7) in my Insane.
As for other hitsound things, I mostly had whistles in those parts already. My justification for using whistles rather than claps is that claps feel too strong, and I want to maintain contrast between those 1/4 beats and the strong second and fourth beats of the measure. I think whistles provide sufficient feedback in those cases.

[Little's Easy]
00:35:445 - i rly think you should have more 2/1 rhythms to reflect intensity better, 00:36:899 (3,4) - could easily work as a 2/1 slider + circle I think there is enough contrast in intensity in my current usage. My rhythms in the previous section place emphasis on the second beat clap for each phrase, while the rhythms in this "slow" section are all beats 1 and 3. The difference in excitement between emphasizing clap vs. strong main beats makes this section feel less intense in the map. I really want to save the 2/1 slider + circle for the transition at 00:39:808 (3,4)

[Little's Normal]
00:40:536 (4) - nothing actually snaps to the red tick 00:41:081 - maybe snap to the 1/3? like u did previously at the beginning. or could just snap to white tick Yeah, snapped to white tick.
01:07:990 (6,7,1) - 01:10:899 (6,7,8,1) - rhythms here are achieving completely different things but the music stays mostly the same. moving 01:11:626 (8) - do the downbeat would make the transition a lot nicer Fixed.

[Little's Hard]
00:46:354 (4,5,6) - doesnt really give much attention to the trumpet. at 00:43:445 (4,5) - u had the flow change at the trumpet so mayb try a similar thing Did a similar thing.

[Little's Insane]
00:23:263 (4,6,7,1) - 00:34:899 (4,6,7,1) - autostacking makes this look awful http://puu.sh/vlYmr/5931cf82a9.jpg should try space these a bit more These are fine imo. I don't think it looks awful.
00:37:263 (2,3,4) - u reduced the sv but spacing stays mostly the same as more intense sections Distance spacing doesn't scale with intensity; it's used here for emphasis on (3). It was slightly too large here, especially between (3,4), so I reduced it a bit.
01:07:445 (1,2,3) - 01:10:354 (1,2) - y do the rhythms change so much density-wise It just feels right to me. The vocal rhythm is different here, so I wanted to sit on the sustained notes longer.

Thanks.
http://puu.sh/vmpDh/a42941ecd3.zip

Doormat

2,050 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Doormat 2017-04-16T23:03:26+00:00

updated little's diffs, waiting on xxdeathx now

xxdeathx

2,661 posts

Joined July 2013

xxdeathx 2017-04-17T01:12:00+00:00

Pentori wrote:
[General]
combo 1 and 3 basically look the same in gameplay, i think u should try lighten combo 1 think doormat changed it

hitsounding can be improved a bit the 1/4 feedback is a little lacking in some areas (referring to top diff here):
00:23:445 (8,9) - could add whistles from 00:23:536 - here to represent the kick drums don't have anything there in my diff
00:29:445 (6,7) - i think claps would work really well here cos the triplet consists of two snares agreed
00:35:263 (6,7) - ^ ^
00:39:626 - 00:39:990 - offbeat claps here ^
00:52:717 - 00:52:808 (5) - sound more like claps than whistles ^
01:16:990 (4,5) - clap and whistle. or could use two whistles if you dont want it sounding like a duplet had clap but no whistle
01:25:716 (2,3,4,5,6) - this needs more than just hitnormals i think it is

[Xxdeathx's Insane]
00:00:536 (1) - kinda inconsistent how u have the slider here, but jumps everywhere else i hate starting maps with circles because it fks over hidden players and it's even a bit harder for nomod players to get a 300 before they get in the rhythm. i put a slider in front and changed 00:00:536 (1) - to circles so it's consistent now
00:23:263 (7,8,9) - ehh, theres not much point in having the jumps here when u no longer have the stressed trumpets on 00:22:172 (1,3,5) - to emphasise. the 1/4s are a lot more noticeable decided to put a jump for each of those things: 00:23:263 (7) - trumpet, 00:23:445 (8) - clap, 00:23:626 (9) - trumpet (though less stressed but still not okay as sliderend or anything), 00:23:808 (1) - finish. i feel like the intensity of this part is a good lead in to the calmer section afterwards.
01:10:899 (4,5) - since ur circles are all following vocals, this should be a slider no, in this section until 01:11:808 (1) - i am following the claps on every white tick. because of that i increased slider velocity, and put only sliders that started on white ticks or pairs of circles.

Thanks pentori!

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Doormat

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Doormat 2017-04-17T01:17:57+00:00

all diffs updated now

ErunamoJAZZ

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ErunamoJAZZ 2017-04-17T02:48:49+00:00

no one take me serious about weird spread T___T

VINXIS

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VINXIS 2017-04-17T02:55:57+00:00

its ok cuz sr doesnt matter when ur talking about spread anyway Lol

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-04-17T02:58:48+00:00

I wonder how far we can take this tho, since it doesn't specify exactly that you CAN'T use a shitton of diffs of the same level or make a double spread (we've also treated most mapsets like this anyway, so it would be strange to start doing so out of the blue) (this doesn't imply it wouldn't be a good chance to do it anyway...)

Little

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Little 2017-04-17T03:01:51+00:00

Well, there aren't any significant gaps even if we remove my Normal, but does removing my Normal improve the spread at all? I don't think so.

Doormat

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Doormat 2017-04-17T03:01:54+00:00

MrSergio wrote:

I wonder how far we can take this tho, since it doesn't specify exactly that you CAN'T use a shitton of diffs of the same level or make a double spread (we've also treated most mapsets like this anyway, so it would be strange to start doing so out of the blue) (this doesn't imply it wouldn't be a good chance to do it anyway...)

the difficulties do follow a consecutive order, and the ranking criteria is ambiguous on difficulties that are of the same star rating. i don't think the rules are being broken in this case.

VINXIS

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VINXIS 2017-04-17T03:04:15+00:00

yea i dont c how this set is rule breaking the rule just states that the diff names should b aligned with the sr which they r

ErunamoJAZZ

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ErunamoJAZZ 2017-04-17T03:06:33+00:00

but what sense have 2 normals and 2 hards that feels like same...
It is boring

A better solution will be a Little's Advanced or something like this

VINXIS

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VINXIS 2017-04-17T03:07:56+00:00

nonsense ≠ boring

thts not rly a solution tho cuz theres no problem in the first place

doule spreads may b useless/lame to ppl but they rnt problematic

Doormat

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Doormat 2017-04-17T03:13:03+00:00

explained this in game, but posting here for context as well.

the [Normal] and [Little's Normal] difficulties fundamentally have different rhythm and pattern designs. there are some places where they overlap, but the majority of the map is distinct from each other.

this is more apparent in the [Hard] and [Little's Hard] difficulties, since [Hard] introduces 1/4 beat distance spacing whereas [Little's Hard] doesn't.

overall, the difficulties are different enough from each other, and so the spread is acceptable.

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-04-17T04:49:51+00:00

pentori denied my kds, why?

If you didn't know the context it was me point out 1/3 snaps and not have them be so strict with DS as to improve readability (overlapping objects that aren't 1/2 gaps are hard to read)

Pentori

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Pentori 2017-04-17T06:08:20+00:00

spread exists so players of any level can enjoy a song, having the additional difficulties doesn't harm the mapset at all lol.

and kisses your post doesn't even look like a mod, u couldve had the context in the post itself and i wouldnt of denied

oh and qualified!

Doormat

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Doormat 2017-04-17T06:14:10+00:00

cheers, thanks karen and pentori

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xxdeathx

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xxdeathx 2017-04-17T06:18:02+00:00

Underforest

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Underforest 2017-04-17T07:50:21+00:00

congrats!

Gaia

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Gaia 2017-04-17T07:52:11+00:00

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Linada

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Linada 2017-04-17T07:59:13+00:00

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Kalibe

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Kalibe 2017-04-17T09:24:24+00:00

wew grats

scanter

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scanter 2017-04-17T10:43:54+00:00

nice

SnowNiNo_

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SnowNiNo_ 2017-04-17T12:02:35+00:00

u didnt poke me for free mod
sa d :<

Sieg

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Sieg 2017-04-17T12:35:42+00:00

brilliant

Anxient

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Anxient 2017-04-17T12:49:02+00:00

something something something IRU YO!
something something something IRU YO!

yep i know the lyrics of this song yup yup

Metaku

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Metaku 2017-04-17T13:41:32+00:00

Gratz Little for Qualify

DreaM117er

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DreaM117er 2017-04-17T15:50:16+00:00

Graz

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-04-17T20:50:50+00:00

Honestly, it's kinda ironic that the song "hitorigoto" has a double spread and a tonne of diffs haha. Doesn't hitorigoto mean something like "talking to oneself / being alonef" or something? xD.

Grats, good jumps

Underforest

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Underforest 2017-04-17T20:56:30+00:00