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Pentori wrote:

[General]
hitsounding can be improved a bit the 1/4 feedback is a little lacking in some areas (referring to top diff here):
00:23:445 (8,9) - could add whistles from 00:23:536 - here to represent the kick drums Added whistle at 00:23:717 (7) in my Insane.
As for other hitsound things, I mostly had whistles in those parts already. My justification for using whistles rather than claps is that claps feel too strong, and I want to maintain contrast between those 1/4 beats and the strong second and fourth beats of the measure. I think whistles provide sufficient feedback in those cases.

[Little's Easy]
00:35:445 - i rly think you should have more 2/1 rhythms to reflect intensity better, 00:36:899 (3,4) - could easily work as a 2/1 slider + circle I think there is enough contrast in intensity in my current usage. My rhythms in the previous section place emphasis on the second beat clap for each phrase, while the rhythms in this "slow" section are all beats 1 and 3. The difference in excitement between emphasizing clap vs. strong main beats makes this section feel less intense in the map. I really want to save the 2/1 slider + circle for the transition at 00:39:808 (3,4)

[Little's Normal]
00:40:536 (4) - nothing actually snaps to the red tick 00:41:081 - maybe snap to the 1/3? like u did previously at the beginning. or could just snap to white tick Yeah, snapped to white tick.
01:07:990 (6,7,1) - 01:10:899 (6,7,8,1) - rhythms here are achieving completely different things but the music stays mostly the same. moving 01:11:626 (8) - do the downbeat would make the transition a lot nicer Fixed.

[Little's Hard]
00:46:354 (4,5,6) - doesnt really give much attention to the trumpet. at 00:43:445 (4,5) - u had the flow change at the trumpet so mayb try a similar thing Did a similar thing.

[Little's Insane]
00:23:263 (4,6,7,1) - 00:34:899 (4,6,7,1) - autostacking makes this look awful http://puu.sh/vlYmr/5931cf82a9.jpg should try space these a bit more These are fine imo. I don't think it looks awful.
00:37:263 (2,3,4) - u reduced the sv but spacing stays mostly the same as more intense sections Distance spacing doesn't scale with intensity; it's used here for emphasis on (3). It was slightly too large here, especially between (3,4), so I reduced it a bit.
01:07:445 (1,2,3) - 01:10:354 (1,2) - y do the rhythms change so much density-wise It just feels right to me. The vocal rhythm is different here, so I wanted to sit on the sustained notes longer.
Thanks.
http://puu.sh/vmpDh/a42941ecd3.zip
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Doormat
updated little's diffs, waiting on xxdeathx now
xxdeathx

Pentori wrote:

[General]
combo 1 and 3 basically look the same in gameplay, i think u should try lighten combo 1 think doormat changed it

hitsounding can be improved a bit the 1/4 feedback is a little lacking in some areas (referring to top diff here):
00:23:445 (8,9) - could add whistles from 00:23:536 - here to represent the kick drums don't have anything there in my diff
00:29:445 (6,7) - i think claps would work really well here cos the triplet consists of two snares agreed
00:35:263 (6,7) - ^ ^
00:39:626 - 00:39:990 - offbeat claps here ^
00:52:717 - 00:52:808 (5) - sound more like claps than whistles ^
01:16:990 (4,5) - clap and whistle. or could use two whistles if you dont want it sounding like a duplet had clap but no whistle
01:25:716 (2,3,4,5,6) - this needs more than just hitnormals i think it is

[Xxdeathx's Insane]
00:00:536 (1) - kinda inconsistent how u have the slider here, but jumps everywhere else i hate starting maps with circles because it fks over hidden players and it's even a bit harder for nomod players to get a 300 before they get in the rhythm. i put a slider in front and changed 00:00:536 (1) - to circles so it's consistent now
00:23:263 (7,8,9) - ehh, theres not much point in having the jumps here when u no longer have the stressed trumpets on 00:22:172 (1,3,5) - to emphasise. the 1/4s are a lot more noticeable decided to put a jump for each of those things: 00:23:263 (7) - trumpet, 00:23:445 (8) - clap, 00:23:626 (9) - trumpet (though less stressed but still not okay as sliderend or anything), 00:23:808 (1) - finish. i feel like the intensity of this part is a good lead in to the calmer section afterwards.
01:10:899 (4,5) - since ur circles are all following vocals, this should be a slider no, in this section until 01:11:808 (1) - i am following the claps on every white tick. because of that i increased slider velocity, and put only sliders that started on white ticks or pairs of circles.
Thanks pentori!

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Topic Starter
Doormat
all diffs updated now
ErunamoJAZZ
no one take me serious about weird spread T___T

VINXIS
its ok cuz sr doesnt matter when ur talking about spread anyway Lol
Seijiro



I wonder how far we can take this tho, since it doesn't specify exactly that you CAN'T use a shitton of diffs of the same level or make a double spread (we've also treated most mapsets like this anyway, so it would be strange to start doing so out of the blue) (this doesn't imply it wouldn't be a good chance to do it anyway...)
Little
Well, there aren't any significant gaps even if we remove my Normal, but does removing my Normal improve the spread at all? I don't think so.
Topic Starter
Doormat

MrSergio wrote:




I wonder how far we can take this tho, since it doesn't specify exactly that you CAN'T use a shitton of diffs of the same level or make a double spread (we've also treated most mapsets like this anyway, so it would be strange to start doing so out of the blue) (this doesn't imply it wouldn't be a good chance to do it anyway...)
the difficulties do follow a consecutive order, and the ranking criteria is ambiguous on difficulties that are of the same star rating. i don't think the rules are being broken in this case.
VINXIS
yea i dont c how this set is rule breaking the rule just states that the diff names should b aligned with the sr which they r
ErunamoJAZZ
but what sense have 2 normals and 2 hards that feels like same...
It is boring

A better solution will be a Little's Advanced or something like this
VINXIS
nonsense ≠ boring

thts not rly a solution tho cuz theres no problem in the first place

doule spreads may b useless/lame to ppl but they rnt problematic
Topic Starter
Doormat
explained this in game, but posting here for context as well.

the [Normal] and [Little's Normal] difficulties fundamentally have different rhythm and pattern designs. there are some places where they overlap, but the majority of the map is distinct from each other.

this is more apparent in the [Hard] and [Little's Hard] difficulties, since [Hard] introduces 1/4 beat distance spacing whereas [Little's Hard] doesn't.

overall, the difficulties are different enough from each other, and so the spread is acceptable.
_handholding
pentori denied my kds, why?

If you didn't know the context it was me point out 1/3 snaps and not have them be so strict with DS as to improve readability (overlapping objects that aren't 1/2 gaps are hard to read)
Pentori
spread exists so players of any level can enjoy a song, having the additional difficulties doesn't harm the mapset at all lol.

and kisses your post doesn't even look like a mod, u couldve had the context in the post itself and i wouldnt of denied

oh and qualified!
Topic Starter
Doormat
cheers, thanks karen and pentori :D/
xxdeathx
Underforest
congrats!
Gaia
Linada
e
Kalibe
wew grats
scanter
nice
SnowNiNo_
u didnt poke me for free mod
sa d :<
Sieg
brilliant
Anxient
something something something IRU YO!
something something something IRU YO!

yep i know the lyrics of this song yup yup
Metaku
Gratz Little for Qualify
DreaM117er
Graz :)
Monstrata
Honestly, it's kinda ironic that the song "hitorigoto" has a double spread and a tonne of diffs haha. Doesn't hitorigoto mean something like "talking to oneself / being alonef" or something? xD.

Grats, good jumps :D
Underforest

Monstrata wrote:

Doesn't hitorigoto mean something like "talking to oneself / being alone" or something? xD.
yes, it's the meaning. since it's translated to "soliloquy"
Agatsu
gratz!
scanter
nice
Asuka_-
gratz~
Topic Starter
Doormat
wa so many grats comments o: thanks >///<

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

u didnt poke me for free mod
sa d :<
next time ;)
Senko-san
Time for the ED now?
Xinying

Anxient wrote:

something something something IRU YO!
something something something IRU YO!
EightBitLoxs
StaR-sensei's insane
00:53:808 1
Can't tell where to go without sliderendcricle.
Little

EightBitLoxs wrote:

StaR-sensei's insane
00:53:808 1
Can't tell where to go without sliderendcricle.
That's your own problem for not having a sliderendcircle. lol
SnowNiNo_
100k plays looool
congratz doormap :>
Kawayi Rika
gz 口工动漫先生 moe :)
Topic Starter
Doormat

Kawayi Rika wrote:

gz 口工动漫先生 moe :)
o: thanks ><
Kingdookoo921
Not a bad map, was pretty painful to play tho.
Nghibro
PLS PLS PLS PLS SEND ME THE FULL PICTURE OF THE BACKGROUND OF THIS BEATMAP
sorry for caps :/
frozz
sagiri!
Surono
i shuld farm pp std again ,.
IAmRelapse
Doormat, do the ending this time. Gratz on the beatmap
SSH Thunderclap
Ew.
Siparo
Spasibo za pp
MrDamn29
Loli albina incestuosa FTW
Naren
HITORIGOTO DAYO
HikuyS
Good job mam
siberbule
fuck this shit map
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