today i saw cRyo[iceeicee] online so i decided to ask his opinion about my map
just like before, i bolded the most relevant parts
well, another god-tier veteran agrees with me, clearly the discussion is not one sided, imo by now it should be clear enough that there is no problem about the tick rate 4 at all, it's just that this generation doesn't expect this type of setting to be used...
but i will be getting more opinions as cRyo suggested
more veteran's opinions on the previous page!
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btw thanks to everyone who stalked the map so far. iirc, the map didn't even had 2000 views before the drama, now it has over 6500 views
thanks for the support?!?!?!?!
just like before, i bolded the most relevant parts
cRyo(iceeicee)
2017-12-24 14:56 pimpG: hello
2017-12-24 14:57 cRyo[iceeicee]: hi
2017-12-24 14:58 pimpG: i really need opinions from god tier mappers (only opinion, not mod) will you have some free time to check something very specific in my map in the near future?
2017-12-24 15:00 cRyo[iceeicee]: ok
2017-12-24 15:00 pimpG: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1489084 3L - Macrophylla Parasol]
2017-12-24 15:02 pimpG: slider tick rate 2 was good enough for the most part of my map's slider tick hitsounding
2017-12-24 15:02 pimpG: but there is 11 sliders that requires me to use slider tick rate 4 to be able to custom hitsound
2017-12-24 15:02 pimpG: 01:17:294 (2) - 01:30:022 (8) - 01:39:113 (2) - 01:45:135 (3) - 01:48:772 (1) - 05:03:658 (3) - 05:10:931 (3) - 05:15:476 (5) - 05:23:658 (2) - 05:30:022 (5) - 05:49:794 (2) -
2017-12-24 15:03 pimpG: a few BN's are against me using slider tick rate 4
2017-12-24 15:03 pimpG: so i asked a lot of veterans and, all of them agree with me so far
2017-12-24 15:05 cRyo[iceeicee]: i think you can use SB hitsounds
2017-12-24 15:05 pimpG: i don't like sb hitsounds
2017-12-24 15:05 pimpG: they can't be disabled, will be played even if the player miss the notes
2017-12-24 15:06 pimpG: everything i did in this mapset is rankeable btw
2017-12-24 15:06 pimpG: i silenced the unecessary slider ticks, it is rankeable too
2017-12-24 15:07 pimpG: don't want to take too much of your time, so do you think it's fine to keep slider tick 4?
2017-12-24 15:08 cRyo[iceeicee]: well i dunno what was a purpose of a sliderticks in osu, but since they are audible by the default i think they are about hitsounding, not the gameplay, and back to those days when we were mapping in osu we used slider ticks only to put some hs on them, otherwise 0.5 tick rate
2017-12-24 15:08 cRyo[iceeicee]: so idk whats problem with tickrate 4
2017-12-24 15:09 cRyo[iceeicee]: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/690556/#osu/1479927
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: yeah, it has little to no inpact on gameplay
2017-12-24 15:09 cRyo[iceeicee]: i also used tick 4
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: oh nice
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: gonna check
2017-12-24 15:09 cRyo[iceeicee]: i mean i forsed him to change to tick 4 for hs xD
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: cool!
2017-12-24 15:10 cRyo[iceeicee]: i used them for this part
2017-12-24 15:10 cRyo[iceeicee]: 01:49:736 -
2017-12-24 15:11 cRyo[iceeicee]: you should ask some players, do they care about ticks, in my opinion if smth not affecting gameplay its fine
2017-12-24 15:12 pimpG: i think the tick rate affects your map more than mines, since mines has smaller sliders
2017-12-24 15:12 pimpG: but yours seems ok too
2017-12-24 15:12 pimpG: will ask some players
2017-12-24 15:13 cRyo[iceeicee]: oh yeah i think higher st boost some scores
2017-12-24 15:13 pimpG: wow, the slider has stutters
2017-12-24 15:13 pimpG: is it for loved?
2017-12-24 15:13 cRyo[iceeicee]: idk
2017-12-24 15:14 pimpG: the stuttering slider is unrankeable, so it's probably for loved
2017-12-24 15:15 cRyo[iceeicee]: but they fit the music xD
2017-12-24 15:16 pimpG: i agree
2017-12-24 15:17 pimpG: i guess if it's going for loved, then it won't help my map at all
2017-12-24 15:17 cRyo[iceeicee]: and whats the problem with st4 anyway?
2017-12-24 15:17 cRyo[iceeicee]: aesthetic?
2017-12-24 15:17 pimpG: hmmm
2017-12-24 15:17 cRyo[iceeicee]: or because it boost scores
2017-12-24 15:18 pimpG: they never said anything conclusive about it, only don't want me to use it
2017-12-24 15:18 cRyo[iceeicee]: they should explain the reason behind this
2017-12-24 15:18 cRyo[iceeicee]: st4 is unrankable by the default?
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: no, it's rankeable
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: they claim to be unfitting in my map
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: but silencing ticks is rankeable, and i did that
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: i don't think they are unfitting anyway
2017-12-24 15:20 pimpG: one of them said it's weird to see them, but even with double time he was able to get a B on the map
2017-12-24 15:20 cRyo[iceeicee]: its weird because everyone using 1.0 xD
2017-12-24 15:21 pimpG: my friend is ranked about 9000. was able to fc the map
2017-12-24 15:21 pimpG: yeah, they just don't see it nowadays so they consider it an issue
2017-12-24 15:24 pimpG: wow
2017-12-24 15:24 pimpG: somehow, tick rate 4 helps to notice the stuttering sliders in this map you hitsounded
2017-12-24 15:24 pimpG: so it makes it easier to play, actually
2017-12-24 15:24 cRyo[iceeicee]: ya, that was the point
2017-12-24 15:25 pimpG: then maybe, just maybe, it can be rankeable
2017-12-24 15:29 pimpG: do you allow me to post a chat log in the thread later?
2017-12-24 15:30 cRyo[iceeicee]: but everyone will see my broken inglish <_<
2017-12-24 15:30 cRyo[iceeicee]: ye idm
2017-12-24 15:31 pimpG: they will love you even more because of that xD
2017-12-24 15:31 pimpG: thank you xD
2017-12-24 15:31 cRyo[iceeicee]: yw/
2017-12-24 14:57 cRyo[iceeicee]: hi
2017-12-24 14:58 pimpG: i really need opinions from god tier mappers (only opinion, not mod) will you have some free time to check something very specific in my map in the near future?
2017-12-24 15:00 cRyo[iceeicee]: ok
2017-12-24 15:00 pimpG: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1489084 3L - Macrophylla Parasol]
2017-12-24 15:02 pimpG: slider tick rate 2 was good enough for the most part of my map's slider tick hitsounding
2017-12-24 15:02 pimpG: but there is 11 sliders that requires me to use slider tick rate 4 to be able to custom hitsound
2017-12-24 15:02 pimpG: 01:17:294 (2) - 01:30:022 (8) - 01:39:113 (2) - 01:45:135 (3) - 01:48:772 (1) - 05:03:658 (3) - 05:10:931 (3) - 05:15:476 (5) - 05:23:658 (2) - 05:30:022 (5) - 05:49:794 (2) -
2017-12-24 15:03 pimpG: a few BN's are against me using slider tick rate 4
2017-12-24 15:03 pimpG: so i asked a lot of veterans and, all of them agree with me so far
2017-12-24 15:05 cRyo[iceeicee]: i think you can use SB hitsounds
2017-12-24 15:05 pimpG: i don't like sb hitsounds
2017-12-24 15:05 pimpG: they can't be disabled, will be played even if the player miss the notes
2017-12-24 15:06 pimpG: everything i did in this mapset is rankeable btw
2017-12-24 15:06 pimpG: i silenced the unecessary slider ticks, it is rankeable too
2017-12-24 15:07 pimpG: don't want to take too much of your time, so do you think it's fine to keep slider tick 4?
2017-12-24 15:08 cRyo[iceeicee]: well i dunno what was a purpose of a sliderticks in osu, but since they are audible by the default i think they are about hitsounding, not the gameplay, and back to those days when we were mapping in osu we used slider ticks only to put some hs on them, otherwise 0.5 tick rate
2017-12-24 15:08 cRyo[iceeicee]: so idk whats problem with tickrate 4
2017-12-24 15:09 cRyo[iceeicee]: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/690556/#osu/1479927
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: yeah, it has little to no inpact on gameplay
2017-12-24 15:09 cRyo[iceeicee]: i also used tick 4
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: oh nice
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: gonna check
2017-12-24 15:09 cRyo[iceeicee]: i mean i forsed him to change to tick 4 for hs xD
2017-12-24 15:09 pimpG: cool!
2017-12-24 15:10 cRyo[iceeicee]: i used them for this part
2017-12-24 15:10 cRyo[iceeicee]: 01:49:736 -
2017-12-24 15:11 cRyo[iceeicee]: you should ask some players, do they care about ticks, in my opinion if smth not affecting gameplay its fine
2017-12-24 15:12 pimpG: i think the tick rate affects your map more than mines, since mines has smaller sliders
2017-12-24 15:12 pimpG: but yours seems ok too
2017-12-24 15:12 pimpG: will ask some players
2017-12-24 15:13 cRyo[iceeicee]: oh yeah i think higher st boost some scores
2017-12-24 15:13 pimpG: wow, the slider has stutters
2017-12-24 15:13 pimpG: is it for loved?
2017-12-24 15:13 cRyo[iceeicee]: idk
2017-12-24 15:14 pimpG: the stuttering slider is unrankeable, so it's probably for loved
2017-12-24 15:15 cRyo[iceeicee]: but they fit the music xD
2017-12-24 15:16 pimpG: i agree
2017-12-24 15:17 pimpG: i guess if it's going for loved, then it won't help my map at all
2017-12-24 15:17 cRyo[iceeicee]: and whats the problem with st4 anyway?
2017-12-24 15:17 cRyo[iceeicee]: aesthetic?
2017-12-24 15:17 pimpG: hmmm
2017-12-24 15:17 cRyo[iceeicee]: or because it boost scores
2017-12-24 15:18 pimpG: they never said anything conclusive about it, only don't want me to use it
2017-12-24 15:18 cRyo[iceeicee]: they should explain the reason behind this
2017-12-24 15:18 cRyo[iceeicee]: st4 is unrankable by the default?
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: no, it's rankeable
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: they claim to be unfitting in my map
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: but silencing ticks is rankeable, and i did that
2017-12-24 15:19 pimpG: i don't think they are unfitting anyway
2017-12-24 15:20 pimpG: one of them said it's weird to see them, but even with double time he was able to get a B on the map
2017-12-24 15:20 cRyo[iceeicee]: its weird because everyone using 1.0 xD
2017-12-24 15:21 pimpG: my friend is ranked about 9000. was able to fc the map
2017-12-24 15:21 pimpG: yeah, they just don't see it nowadays so they consider it an issue
2017-12-24 15:24 pimpG: wow
2017-12-24 15:24 pimpG: somehow, tick rate 4 helps to notice the stuttering sliders in this map you hitsounded
2017-12-24 15:24 pimpG: so it makes it easier to play, actually
2017-12-24 15:24 cRyo[iceeicee]: ya, that was the point
2017-12-24 15:25 pimpG: then maybe, just maybe, it can be rankeable
2017-12-24 15:29 pimpG: do you allow me to post a chat log in the thread later?
2017-12-24 15:30 cRyo[iceeicee]: but everyone will see my broken inglish <_<
2017-12-24 15:30 cRyo[iceeicee]: ye idm
2017-12-24 15:31 pimpG: they will love you even more because of that xD
2017-12-24 15:31 pimpG: thank you xD
2017-12-24 15:31 cRyo[iceeicee]: yw/
well, another god-tier veteran agrees with me, clearly the discussion is not one sided, imo by now it should be clear enough that there is no problem about the tick rate 4 at all, it's just that this generation doesn't expect this type of setting to be used...
but i will be getting more opinions as cRyo suggested
more veteran's opinions on the previous page!
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
btw thanks to everyone who stalked the map so far. iirc, the map didn't even had 2000 views before the drama, now it has over 6500 views
thanks for the support?!?!?!?!