1. Difficulty Spread : ok
2. Unsnapped objects : ok
3. Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : ok
4. Misc. Setting : ok
5. Metadata Issues : ok
6. Timeline Issues : ok
7. Combo Colors : ok

1. 02:26:832 (1) - would be cool If you move this to a bit right
2. 03:59:510 (4) - maybe you can move this to the left a little to make distances regular
3. 04:56:125 - missing whistle here
4. 05:57:699 (1,2) - considering the music here isn't that intense, why would you keep the distances here a bit large. I'd reduce it since it's kinda easy to choke
5. 06:04:099 (1,2) - hdash between 1 and 2?
6. 06:05:699 (1,2,3) - this part can be more emphasized imo
7. 06:07:399 (2) - consider moving slider end to 06:07:699 -
8. 06:08:899 (1,2) - I'd put hdash between them
9. 06:26:501 (1,2,3,4) - no curve here? try this. Also make sure to put hdash between 4 and 5
10. 07:16:904 (7,8,9) - really easy to choke here lol please move 8 to a bit left
11. 07:19:004 (3,1) - missing hdash here
12. 07:58:805 - I know what you tried here but this is gonna make many people choke at the last part lol
13. 08:11:112 (1,2,3,4) - same issue as above. ctrl+g them?
14. 08:37:583 (1,2) - try this.

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

02:37:909 - 02:38:060 - its nice spot for 1/8 triplet or 1/4 slider like you did 02:41:510 (1) - 1/8 triplet added

04:03:410 (1) - unnecessary NC ok

04:04:310 (2) - should be NC'ed it already is

04:27:994 (1,1) - unnecessary new combos, its pretty weird to put on them NC as there is no any strong or a distinctive sound. removed one of the NCs


05:14:554 -some suggestions 05:14:911 - I think that it should be mapped too as well and then making the shape of stream C-shaped (actually C-shaped but rotated by 30 degrees lol) i think your suggestions is too boring compared to what i have now

check screens and code for my suggestion of patterning that

screens

code is for notes starting at 05:14:554 - and ending at 05:15:947 -

279,93,314554,5,8,0:1:0:0:
240,104,314625,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,128,314696,1,8,0:0:0:0:
188,164,314768,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,204,314839,1,8,0:0:0:0:
196,244,314911,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,272,314982,1,8,1:1:0:0:
260,288,315053,1,8,0:0:0:0:
300,292,315124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,280,315196,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,256,315267,1,4,0:3:0:0:
194,356,315411,6,0,L|284:347,1,80,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,337,315732,2,0,L|423:377,2,40,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
270,266,316054,2,0,L|158:277,1,92.0000017547608,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:

05:21:411 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - it sounds same as 05:20:554 - and 05:23:982 - but here you mapped it as movementless stream, doublets would be more welcome here I guess autumn season is too calm for that sort of repeated jump pattern

05:25:054 (2) - I am not into that flow-stop note, it should be more flat as sound is not that strong to use tap-doublets agreed, i've been meaning to change that

05:37:897 (7,8,9) - I don't like idea of using linear triplet here, maybe try some curves like this: curve added

screen

Placement
05:37:897 (7) - x:268
05:37:997 (8) - x:332
05:38:097 (9) - x:380

05:49:698 (1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9) - while I idea of linear streams is nice here, I suggest curving them a bit for more flow. Like: my aesthetic

screen

05:50:298 (6) - NC for some clear of a platter ok

06:04:299 (2) - should be ended at 06:04:499 - as there's is new measure the sound in bachground, also as transition with 1/2 gap to next note it flows better. ok

06:05:599 (6,1,2) - again, more curved triplet would be welcome not here please

06:09:699 (6) - again NC fixed

06:12:100 - maybe 1/8 triplet here? doesn't sound good imo

06:20:100 (3) - should NC instead 06:19:700 (1) -
done
06:26:501 (1,2,3,4) - some curves would be nice
flat is justice!

screen

06:32:501 (6,7) - oh its nazi, jump, like there is no music background for that sudden jump agreed

06:41:702 (6) - NC fixed

07:30:305 (7,1) - missed hyper dash i like that pattern right now

07:36:262 (6,7) - also I feel that should be hyper'ed too no thanks

07:38:809 (3,4) - and also here too unexpected

Great map, good luck! <3

My maps

some hitsounding ;w; - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/575238
some mods ;w; - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/563979

Spectator wrote:

1. Difficulty Spread : ok
2. Unsnapped objects : ok
3. Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : ok
4. Misc. Setting : ok
5. Metadata Issues : ok
6. Timeline Issues : ok
7. Combo Colors : ok

1. 02:26:832 (1) - would be cool If you move this to a bit right done
2. 03:59:510 (4) - maybe you can move this to the left a little to make distances regular done
3. 04:56:125 - missing whistle here added
4. 05:57:699 (1,2) - considering the music here isn't that intense, why would you keep the distances here a bit large. I'd reduce it since it's kinda easy to choke reduced
5. 06:04:099 (1,2) - hdash between 1 and 2? i like how it is
6. 06:05:699 (1,2,3) - this part can be more emphasized imo i think it's fine as it is
7. 06:07:399 (2) - consider moving slider end to 06:07:699 - done
8. 06:08:899 (1,2) - I'd put hdash between them done
9. 06:26:501 (1,2,3,4) - no curve here? try this. Also make sure to put hdash between 4 and 5 sigh.. ok
10. 07:16:904 (7,8,9) - really easy to choke here lol please move 8 to a bit left git gud jk fixed <3
11. 07:19:004 (3,1) - missing hdash here added
12. 07:58:805 - I know what you tried here but this is gonna make many people choke at the last part lol easier pattern now
13. 08:11:112 (1,2,3,4) - same issue as above. ctrl+g them? ok
14. 08:37:583 (1,2) - try this. works better!

not many things to point out, it's a solid map

good luck!

Ellyu wrote:

Very good song and very awesome map! thank you

[play]
02:44:810 (4,5,1) - move 1 left to emphasize the kat on it? cuz i see most of the other kat are emphasized with a larger space like 02:48:410 (4,1) - for example. i think the way the pattern works right now is fine
03:35:513 (1,2) - move 2 a bit left cuz it may require a dashhold to catch 2 well which make me fell emphasize 2 too much.and it very easy to choke at there.
03:43:610 (1) - move it a bit left? kinda easy too choke when this space enlargerd too fast at this calm part. moved
04:25:545 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - too static in movement I think.why not move this 04:26:098 (1,2,3,4) - further since there is the strong and special beat on 1? i don't think the sound is strong enough to warrant a complete change of anything like that
05:23:982 (1,2,3,4) - enlarger the space on 3 4 to create a build-up feeling? done
05:44:898 (1,2,3) - this antiflow 3/4 pattern require some really sharp movement to catch them well,but I don't think is fit the music well since the music here have not very strong drumhit. i wanted it to be more unique instead of monotone
06:22:100 (3) - move it further? cuz the beat on 3 is kinda different from 06:21:500 (1,2) - i don't think it's strong enough for a hyper,
and any further movement will make the jump too hard to catch
06:24:000 (4,5) - don't hdash on this i think cuz 5 is a weak beat. and I thought 06:24:000 (4) - is the one need to be emphasize here. i don't think (4) needs to be emphasized that much, but I removed the hyper on (4)
06:43:902 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - curve it more? You place lot of 1/4 dash here but this one is kinda static. and it make me feel like it destroy some consistence. it's meant to serve as a recovery pattern / small break
07:19:604 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is a inconsistent spike at this portion imo. and the music here is kinda smooth so why put continuous 1/4 jumps here? i don't think this is big spike, and i don't think the music is smooth at all
07:32:805 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - make the move ment more clear? the object are all put in the middle of the screen now. this was intentional.
I wanted no hypers or super large jumps here
07:35:475 (2,3,4,5,6) - since the beat is very strong here. so why not put a larger jump here. the jumps were larger at first, but reduced because they were difficult
07:38:222 (6,1,2,3) -07:41:745 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same as^ ^
08:12:266 (8,9) - why are they stacked? it just make the space too small. ? it makes it clean and nicer to look at, without affecting playability
08:15:343 (1,2,3,4,5) - the movement are rapidly become slow at 4 5. fixed
08:36:974 (2,3) - put a hdash here? cuz thre is a very special snare on 3,and it the only snare at this portion so why not try some special movement here. no hypers in refrain
08:45:718 (1) - make it end at 08:48:022 - cuz now it make 08:47:859 - audioable now. i like how it is currently

actually this is my first mod on ctb lol. My playing skill suck so don't blame me. could you please reply them because I am learning ctb now.

05:14:554 -some suggestions 05:14:911 - I think that it should be mapped too as well and then making the shape of stream C-shaped (actually C-shaped but rotated by 30 degrees lol) i think your suggestions is too boring compared to what i have now

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

05:14:554 -some suggestions 05:14:911 - I think that it should be mapped too as well and then making the shape of stream C-shaped (actually C-shaped but rotated by 30 degrees lol) i think your suggestions is too boring compared to what i have now

boring is straight movementless stream you used, and my suggestion is too add more movement and more flow, and still not layouting this 05:14:911 - make it feels is weird.

Professor Gila wrote:

if you were me, i would like to:

02:37:910 (1) - shouldn't you make this part closer to 02:38:210 (2) - ? i find it somewhat wide to do jump applied

03:04:164 (4) - i highly suggest to drag this to the right, closer to end of slider 03:03:564 (3) - or object 03:04:614 (5) - distance is perfectly fine to me

03:19:616 (2,1) - maybe if you'd like to drag this to the left? i intended for tap dash on each of the notes in this pattern

03:34:169 (3) - drag this to the right a bit? why?

05:09:197 (2) - same as above ^

05:20:768 (2,4) - put these sliders to make X position the same as 05:20:340 (4) - ? hypers on all these notes is completely unwarranted

05:31:097 (6,7,9) - i'm not sure if you'd like to put these far to the left? i prefer how they are now

05:45:198 (2) - drag this somewhat far to the right to make hyper part this pattern is already difficult enough, adding a hyper would give way more emphasis to it then i originally intended.

that's all i can mod for now... (i can mod this map again if allowed)

EDIT: i think the winter part should need more to be modded

additional stuffs:

-do you take all the timings from Lan wings' map?
credited in the description

-M4M plz? (i would be highly appreciate if you'd like to so i leave my map here)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/308254 | Overdose only
sure.

Professor Gila wrote:

"03:34:169 (3) - drag this to the right a bit? why?

05:09:197 (2) - same as above ^"

to me, i highly prefer small gap to jump in ctb mapping, and large gap for hypers ._.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

My favourite song of all time, let's go for it.

[After Winter]

You could map the intro? I understand if you don't want to due to this already being the type of map where you get 5 minutes in just to miss but... I do love the intro a lot. Style choice, of course. heavily considered doing that for a long time, but i came to the conclusion that mapping the intro would be too drawn out

00:44:422 (2,3) - I think a jump to 2 here would work really well for the pitch increase and strength increase here. x:248 on this section feels great. moved to x:242
01:02:738 (1) - Dash to this for the strong chime could work well. Try x:424 on it? moved to x:416
01:08:422 (1) - Distance to this feels a little underwhelming right now, due to the section change, I was expecting a bit of a bigger distancing. Ctrl+H and x:452 would fit nicely. done
01:09:370 (3) - This one feels a little too close to the rest of the triple in my eyes, feels a tiny bit uncomfortable to play due to overmoving. A slight increase such as x:312 would be good. increased
01:17:896 (1) - The stronger pitch and bell hitsound you used here makes me feel as though a dash would feel more fitting here. x:396 could work well. fixed
01:42:474 (1) - Such a small distance to 2 right now considering the strong strength and pitch increase on that note. Maybe Ctrl+G on this and move it to x:304? increased distance a different way
01:46:178 (1) - Same with this one, pretty strong note that could do with some more emphasis, maybe try x:352 on it. fixed
01:48:033 (1) - Dash to this one could be nice too, to emphasise the sudden change in intensity. fixed
01:55:489 (1) - Pretty high pitched note both to and from this, dash could better emphasise that, x:288 would fit well. done
01:59:176 (1) - Ensuring a player dashes to this strong note that you used the bell hitsound on would sound nice with the song, try x:124 on it.yep fixed
02:15:799 (1) - Stronger notes and pitches here could do with dashes, try x:476 on them? fixed
02:30:534 (1) - Pretty strong note, extra distancing would fit nicely to it, x:176 fits well. fixed
02:50:510 (1) - HDash from this could fit the flute pretty well in my opinion considering the strong pitch on the next note. Maybe move this slider to x:284? trying to do minimal hdashes here
02:55:610 (6) - Distancing to this slider feels a little strong and difficult to hit right now, maybe try reducing it to something like x:212. done
03:35:963 (3) - Sound here definitely isn't strong enough for that type of strong triple, I'd recommend just a normal one, try moving this to x:188. a bit too small for my tastes, did x:168
03:41:210 (1,2,3,4) - Distancing here felt far too harsh and a lot more difficult than what the music called for, I'd suggest a different type of pattern. did a far easier pattern
03:47:060 (5) - Distancing to this feels really harsh and difficult to hit right now, I'd recommend a slight reduction like x:204 to make the backforth more managable. good call
03:53:510 (1) - I think that having a HDash to this to help promote the buildup through patterning would play nicely. Maybe Ctrl+H and then move it to x:440? i really wanna stick with the minimal hdashes for this season
03:57:110 (1) - HDash to this one could also be nice for a similar reason. Try ctrl+H and x:84 maybe? no
04:00:710 (1) - And again with this one. ctrl+H and x:60 feels good here. ty
04:06:204 (1,2) - Dashing to this section sounds nicer to me with the music, maybe do x:352 on this part? fixed
04:14:731 (2) - Dashing to that feels good, x:156 maybe? done
05:35:297 (1) - HDash to this one would feel nice considering it's the beginning of this strong drum based line. done
05:58:899 (5) - This dash feels really hard to hit right now in my opinion, maybe try reducing it slightly by having it at like x:228? done
06:11:900 (8) - Pretty strong backforth here, maybe reduce it slightly to make the movements feel slightly nicer. x:320 would be solid. fixed
06:41:502 (4) - Quite a strong HDash into this kind of standstill movement is very difficult to play, but I know your style tends to have these kinds of standstill after HDash patterns. I'd suggest making the HDash slightly weaker by moving this to x:308, for flow purposes. yea ok
07:18:004 (3) - Kinda difficult pattern here to hit as a back forth in the middle of these streams, maybe reduce it slightly to x:253 to stack with 1. i think it's perfectly fine as it is
07:21:304 (5) - Quite a strong distancing into this which I feel can be difficult to hit, especially considering the direction change in the slider. I'd just recommend decreasing slightly to x:152. u got it
08:18:997 (4) - Maybe make this slider slightly more vertical? The antiflow being so strong here leads to this pattern being overly difficult in my opinion, only a slight change would be needed though. idk how this makes it easier, since people probably won't hold dash once they see the angle, but changed anyways
08:37:249 (3) - A HDash to this for the strong sound here would fit well, I feel. zero hdash at the ending

Alright, done. I'd recommend getting a few more mods before calling me back.

1. 03:17:665 - A note should be at this point, you have been placing objects on the same sound before and after this point so to keep it consistent with the beats you follow it would be better to just place a note here. This wouldn't have been a problem if there was a slider tick here but there isn't.
2. 04:42:840 - Not sure why you broke the pattern of going 4 singles into 2 sliders, the music never changed from before and it starts to take away from what sounds you were trying to emphasise with sliders to begin with. It would also play nice if you used the same pattern as 04:41:125 (1,2,3,4) but flipped like you did with 04:38:554 (5,6) at 04:40:268 (5,6)
3. 04:56:982 (2) - This should be a slider and 04:57:197 (3) this should be a single note, the slider end is a stronger sound than all the others so you should try and emphasise this instead of having it on a slider end.
4. 05:05:982 (3) - The slider should start at 05:05:929 if you are not following the piano.
5. 05:12:411 (2,3,4) - This part should be mapped in 1/6, 05:12:482 place single note here, 05:12:518 (3) - this slider should start at 05:12:554 and end at 05:12:697 with a single note placed at 05:12:768
6. 05:15:267 (11) - delete this and make 05:15:196 (10) a slider ending at 05:15:304
   
   
7. 00:38:107 (1) - would be cool if the section up to 01:38:775 was able to be only plate walked, the reason I am suggesting this is because the way everything is mapped the longer you play the harder the map gets so having the intro of this map havthing the ability to be platewalked would be cool, this would require; 01:08:422 (1) to be moved to x:420 and 01:17:896 (1) being moved to x:344 and 01:25:159 (5) being moved to x:244
8. 02:45:110 - It would be a cool concept to have jumps getting further and further as the flute plays higher notes, this would only take effect to 02:50:810 if you do this than the objects should be like this; 02:46:910 (1) x:268, 02:47:210 (2) x:444, 02:48:710 (1) x312, 02:49:010 (2) x:456, 02:50:510 (1) x:264, 02:50:810 (2) x:109

wwwww_ wrote:

[Last Judgement]
first is rhythm last bit is gameplay.

1. 03:17:665 - A note should be at this point, you have been placing objects on the same sound before and after this point so to keep it consistent with the beats you follow it would be better to just place a note here. This wouldn't have been a problem if there was a slider tick here but there isn't. im kinda following the flute sounds, i dont think this is a strong enough sound to warrant a note
2. 04:42:840 - Not sure why you broke the pattern of going 4 singles into 2 sliders, the music never changed from before and it starts to take away from what sounds you were trying to emphasise with sliders to begin with. It would also play nice if you used the same pattern as 04:41:125 (1,2,3,4) but flipped like you did with 04:38:554 (5,6) at 04:40:268 (5,6) i think that's boring. i wanted to emphasize the end of that mini section by using sliders only.
3. 04:56:982 (2) - This should be a slider and 04:57:197 (3) this should be a single note, the slider end is a stronger sound than all the others so you should try and emphasise this instead of having it on a slider end. i really like this pattern... ill think about changing it but the triplet pattern is more interesting and fun to play imo
4. 05:05:982 (3) - The slider should start at 05:05:929 if you are not following the piano. following the background piano sounds, yes
5. 05:12:411 (2,3,4) - This part should be mapped in 1/6, 05:12:482 place single note here, 05:12:518 (3) - this slider should start at 05:12:554 and end at 05:12:697 with a single note placed at 05:12:768 i mean, technically yes, but for simplicity sake i used the current rhythm. if i use the rhythm you suggested, it sounds horrible, very bunched up.
6. 05:15:267 (11) - delete this and make 05:15:196 (10) a slider ending at 05:15:304 sure
   
   
7. 00:38:107 (1) - would be cool if the section up to 01:38:775 was able to be only plate walked, the reason I am suggesting this is because the way everything is mapped the longer you play the harder the map gets so having the intro of this map havthing the ability to be platewalked would be cool, this would require; 01:08:422 (1) to be moved to x:420 and 01:17:896 (1) being moved to x:344 and 01:25:159 (5) being moved to x:244 the very first draft had that idea in mind, but i decided that at the end of the day, this map was overall for experienced players. i don't want the beginning to be toooo boring
8. 02:45:110 - It would be a cool concept to have jumps getting further and further as the flute plays higher notes, this would only take effect to 02:50:810 if you do this than the objects should be like this; 02:46:910 (1) x:268, 02:47:210 (2) x:444, 02:48:710 (1) x312, 02:49:010 (2) x:456, 02:50:510 (1) x:264, 02:50:810 (2) x:109 i like the concept but the problem is that some of these jumps are already borderline hyperdashes, and i don't want to cross that line just yet

This is all I have to say about the gameplay, I really like how the winter season is mapped and it flows really nicely, good job.

Thanks for requesting mod, good luck on rank!

Sanyi wrote:

From my modding queue

Kudosu only when helpful!

General

1. Don't know why you changed the preview point, but I think the old one was better since it was actually part of the map, the new one is part of the preview which is confusing when you skip the preview since then you don't hear that section at all (I also like the old one more but that's not important here). The start of the song is really amazing imo, i wanted people to at least hear it since most would skip the intro.
2. 05:25:697 (1) - Is it really necessary to toggle kiai time just for this single note? It has no real impact so it can be deleted imo. i think it's impact is strong enough. it's the first real strong note in the whole song. it also pays homage to lan wings' preview point.
3. When you place a timing point and an inherited point at the same time you are only allowed to change the SV with the inherited point but nothing else. Therefore please adjust the following timing points so that the inherited points are rankable: 04:04:310 - , 04:30:840 - , 05:25:697 - , 07:33:705 - , 07:43:116 - , 07:52:535 - , 07:58:805 - and 08:37:249 - . as far as i know, the new RC disregards this rule as green always takes precedent, but "fixed"
   anyways.

I don't know much about hitsounds, so it may be that the following 2 suggestions are nonsense, please keep that in mind!

1. My modding assistant states that there are unused hitsound files. Sometimes the assistant is wrong though, maybe you check that yourself before deleting anything. The mentioned hitsounds are: normal-slidertick3.wav, normal-sliderwhistle5.wav, soft-sliderwhistle2.wav, soft-sliderwhistle3.wav and soft-sliderwhistle4.wav.removed
2. drum-hitclap3.wav and drum-hitfinish4.wav have a delay over 5ms which is unrankable (unless there is a special purpose for it). Please change them. removed these hitsounds

Every season is great!

1. 01:11:896 (4,1) - No real issue here, but for me it would feel better rhythm-wise to make here a change of movement direction like you did beforehand. Same goes for upcoming similar parts. i think it flows better as it is
2. 01:57:330 (1,2) - As it is right now you need to accelerate to catch 01:58:560 (2) - even though it is completely silent. I would make the flow of the slider and the single note in a way where the single note is perfectly in the flow the slider produces so that the silent note is better emphasized (= not overemphasized). I would just reduce the distance a bit. done
3. 02:15:799 (1) - Putting this to the right site instead of the left matches the flow of the rest of the section better. much of the previous patterns have been on the right side. it was getting too cramped.
4. 02:48:410 (4,1,2) - It would make sense to me if 02:50:210 (4,1,2) - had more spacing than 02:48:410 (4,1,2) - because of the build-up in the music but not the other way round. done
5. 03:04:914 (1,2,3,4) - I think it is a bit early to introduce consecutive back and forth notes here (I think it is more stylistic to save that for the section that starts at 03:06:714 - ). I would change it to something less movement-change based like the rest of the pattern you mapped in this section. ok
6. 03:06:414 (6,1) - Making here a hyperdash is fitting imo since it would introduce the new section better - you already did that beforehand to introduce new sections. It would also fit rhythm-wise since you made 03:20:816 (3,1) - a hyperdash as well. nevermind I am blind like a mole :)
7. 03:26:816 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is quite hard compared to the rest of the section, especially 03:28:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . I would nerf it a bit to match the difficulty of the the rest of the section better. around the middle of each season i wanted a slight difficulty boost, i think this is fine
8. 04:13:625 (3,1) - I would buff the distance a bit to emphasize 04:13:783 (1) - better. slightly buffed
9. 04:42:840 (1,2) - It makes rhythm-wise no sense to introduce 1/2 sliders here, making it similar to 04:41:125 (1,2,3,4) - is rhythm-wise correct imo. i think it makes sense, i explained my reasoning in a previous mod reply
10. 04:55:482 (2) - The piano is pretty remarkable here so I wouldn't make it one slider but instead following the piano here. feels gross switching the instrument im mainly following just for this little pattern
11. 05:18:572 (4,1) - This should be atleast a proper dash if not a hyper rhythm-wise. made it more of a dash
12. 05:26:297 (3,4) - I don't see a reason why this should be a hyper, I would make it a normal dash instead. done
13. 07:06:303 (9,1) - This antiflow doesn't match the flow of the other patterns at all, I would put 07:06:503 (1) - to the right instead (the direction of the slider is unimportant then imo). i think the drums call for something more unique than following the already flow-y pattern.
14. 07:57:041 (4,5,1) - I would reduce the distance here a little bit to nerf this a bit - it is pretty hard to catch imo which makes no sense right before the intense part of Winter. reduced!
15. 08:45:718 (1,1) - Is it really necessary to make here two spinners instead of one? I didn't even realize the gap when I testplayed the map. this was to manipulate the spinner fruits to go a specific way, and since the second spinner starts on a different note, i think it's justified
16. 08:48:185 (1,1) - According to RC you need to have atleast 1/2 distance between the end of a spinner and the next object. I think 1/2 is a bit too big here but 1/4 would be better imo than 1/8 as it is right now (I think you should talk with a BN/QAT if an exception of the rule is ok here because the bpm is so low). will get help from qat/bn on the matter

Hopefully my mod was atleast a bit helpful, it is not easy to mod a 9 min song ^^ very helpful, thanks for the mod!

Please try to rank it! It is an unique map which would be an enrichment for the ranked section! The bns are already aware of this map and want to see it ranked one day too so don't miss out on that opportunity

Good Luck!

P.S.: Forget about the mod for Ofuzake Mode. I am not planning to rank this anytime soon (and I don't know if i will ever try it), so use your time for something else

Professor Gila wrote:

(and the hitsounds also taken from Lan wings' map)

alienflybot wrote:

Hello!

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[ General]

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  Tags

1. Add: 'Shiki' , '-Haru-'. They are the japanese romaji of '四季-春-'. done
2. Add: '東方花映塚'. The full name of the game is '東方花映塚 ～ Phantasmagoria of Flower View' which include the kanji part. done
3. You may also add the tags of the game developer such as '上海アリス幻樂団' and 'Team Shanghai Alice'. done

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  Gameplay

1. 02:38:210 (2,3,4,5,6) - Curve it more? There is no movements in gameplay. done
2. 02:40:910 (5,6,7,8,1) - ^ done
3. 03:28:016 (8,1,2) - Transition at 03:28:316 (1,2) - is a bit strange because of the anti-flow jump there. How about something like this: *Screenshot done
4. 04:25:152 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Same as 02:38:210 (2,3,4,5,6) - . done
5. 04:44:554 - 04:49:697 - The whole part here can be fully caught without dashing. Consider increasing distances for dashing. done
6. 04:55:482 (2) - Change this to the timeline pattern like 04:52:054 (2,3) - so the beat at 04:55:697 - can be mapped. ok done
7. 06:37:301 (6,7) - Reduce the distance here slightly to allow easier recovery after the hyperdash at 06:37:101 (5,6) - . done
8. 07:01:903 (2) - How about flipping this horizontally and place at the original position - x:319? The flow seems a bit smoother. done
9. 07:06:103 (8,9,1) - Transition of (9,1) is quite surprising and unexpected. Maybe you can change the placements of (8,9) to this: *Screenshotdone

I am not a storyboarding expert so I cannot say anything about that, maybe you can find someone good at that to mod / check. For the gameplay part it is well done. will do

alienflybot wrote:

Hello! Winter hype!

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[ Last Judgment]

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  Gameplay

1. 00:43:791 (1,2) - Guess you may want to add a dash here, just to keep consistent with 00:39:685 (5,1) - which the hitsound is emphasized by a dash.
2. 00:48:212 (3,4) - Same here, maybe add a dash? Since adding a dash here would make 00:48:843 (4,5) - a dash too, maybe the following solution helps: *Screenshot
3. 00:55:159 (1,2) - Add a dash here? You can achieve by moving 00:55:475 (2,3,4,5,6) - altogether to the right.
4. 01:05:896 (4,5) - Aren't these notes not fitting the song? How about this: I think it should follow the sound at 01:05:975 - which is 1/8 tick after (4). Maybe you can remove (5) as well and change the pattern here a little bit.
5. 01:57:330 (1) - Curve this more, I think the movement can be increased slightly for this slider as it is longer than the previous ones.
6. 02:28:347 (4,1) - Add a dash here? Since 02:27:741 (2,3,4,1) - is becoming progressively stronger in the music right there. In addition, 02:28:666 (1,2) - can also be emphasized by a dash like what you have done at 02:30:534 (1,2) - . So one solution is to move 02:28:666 (1) - to the left.
7. 03:07:614 (4,5) - Strange to have a dash here. I think it can be removed so the beat at 03:08:514 (1) - is emphasized more by the dash. Also, 03:08:514 (1,2) - is good for a dash spot. Hence one way to change is to move 03:08:214 (5,1) - altogether to the left slightly.
8. 04:09:994 (1) - Curve more?
9. 06:43:702 (6,7) - Reduce the distance here? I find myself keep missing this because of the overshooting. You can move 06:43:902 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - altogether to the right slightly to fix it.
10. 08:34:490 (1,2,3) - Strange. I find 08:34:490 - 08:35:134 - similar to 08:33:159 - 08:33:790 - so both parts should be mapped with the same timeline. As it is impossible to put a 1/1 reversed slider here to cross with multiple offset lines, how about replacing 08:34:490 (1,2) - with circles and add dashes between each other?

Call me back after the fix!

all applied! thanks for the mod, these are really nice changes

Californian wrote:

Hi, I probably should have noticed/spoken up sooner but as of recent maps, I don't think "東方Project" is a valid source anymore. Instead, the recent maps seem to favor more of the game's direct source titles instead of just touhou.

So the correct source of this map should be "東方花映塚　～ Phantasmagoria of Flower View."
source

best of luck ranking the map!

Absolute Zero wrote:

Just a reminder to address the mod above for source; I would agree that would be preferable. yya

[Last Judgement]
00:41:580 (5) - Don't think this should be a 1/4 slider as I don't really hear anything that justifies the end of the slider. This comment applies to other sections like 00:45:370 (4) and 00:52:949 (5). the slider was to hold out the sound that its mapped over
00:46:317 (2,3,4,5,6) - This feels weirdly underspaced compared to something like 00:38:738 (2,3,4,5). the reason it's different is because it still provides a different movement for each note while being a different pattern than the one you mentioned. will space them out though instead of changing completely
00:48:212 (3) - Stronger sound is on the end of this slider right here. Make these two hitcircles with a dash in between instead. You run into a similar problem as places like 00:48:212 (3) and 00:54:843 (5). definitely trying to avoid too many dashes at the start so all applied except for that part
01:22:633 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Feels like this stream is a bit overmapped tbh--if you could give justification for these 1/4 streams that would be nice. overmapped ur right, changed
01:31:791 (2,3,4,5) - Personally I don’t really like this pattern here—It’s kinda bland and standstill. i like the pattern but i spaced it out to make it less standstill
01:33:054 (1,2) - Would accompany the pitch increase with a stronger dash. done
01:36:528 (4,1) - This is completely walkable but still is a pitch increase. I would increase distancing. done
01:49:889 (1,2,3,1,2) - These sliders are pretty constricted to the center. I would consider making the pattern more mobile. was aiming for some slight symmetry here, it's my _ _ _ _ _!
02:00:439 (3) - I think this slider works better as a 1/2 slider. i feel like im missing too much of the sound that way
02:15:486 (2,1) - Increase distancing a little more to accent the huge pitch change. I would move (2) leftwards. big agree
02:24:059 (2,3) - I would making this (3,4) larger than (2,3), even making (2,3) almost stagnant. This is because the melody doesn’t change pitch until (3,4). done
03:28:766 (3,4,5,6) - I think this pattern is excessive for the soft sounds it’s hitting. lowered spacing but i think its fine
04:34:910 (4,5) - The bell sound is quite strong; I would consider making this a stronger dash to reflect that. did that
04:44:125 (4,1) - Consider increasing this to a hyper because of the new phrase and a strong bell and higher pitch in the melody. done done
04:58:268 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - The same music is treated differently between these two patterns. ya fix
05:13:697 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - what the fuck was the accordionist drunk here (working snapping out) owob wasnt sure what consensus you came to so its still the same
05:15:411 (1) - Covering a note with a slider at 05:15:518. Make this three hitcircles instead. ya
05:51:298 (1,2) - I always miss this pattern for some reason—I’m used to it being a 1/4 hypers like at 05:50:698 (5,6). Maybe it’s just me. i feel like it plays fine :,
07:19:704 (5,6,7,8) - Personally, I’m not a huge fan of this pattern as it kinda sticks out a little too much compared to the flow you have before. You can keep it if you want, but I would suggest changing it. at long last i have changed this pattern
08:34:490 (1,2,3,4) - What are these notes following?

alienflybot wrote:

08:34:490 (1,2,3) - Strange. I find 08:34:490 - 08:35:134 - similar to 08:33:159 - 08:33:790 - so both parts should be mapped with the same timeline. As it is impossible to put a 1/1 reversed slider here to cross with multiple offset lines, how about replacing 08:34:490 (1,2) - with circles and add dashes between each other?

^ explanation, was two sliders before to cover the sound (1) starts on
08:36:974 (2,3) - Would make this a hyper to accent the drum. really wanna keep my vision of no hypers at the end :'(

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

recheck!

00:07:879 - u should really map here cuz it sounds nice never
06:16:900 - could u lower the bpom here its a little fast thx not done


okay call me back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Storyboarder wrote:

sb finished! thanks for waiting

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

alright looks good!


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Absolute 0 wrote:

hey its me ABSOLUTE ZERO here's your bubble fii:

Absolute Zero wrote:

just coming back for this quick stuff
00:55:475 (2,3,4,5) - Saw this as well--same overmap argument as mentioned before--I only hear sounds every 1/2.
08:37:249 - Two conflicting timing points here in terms of sample set. Change the uninherited to S:C5.

Ascendance wrote:

hi

08:34:490 (1,2,3,4) - please fix this as we discussed, should definitely be 1/1 and is not unrankable at all, dunno why afb said that
hp -> 6

6* marathon and it's hp5, too forgiving for sure

hopefully the twitter meme dies, gl

Absolute Zero wrote:

Had a very long discussion with Nokashi, celerih, Hareimu, and Fii about this a while ago and decided that it's best that we approximate in evenly for playing and to an extent (as much as I hate to use this word) aesthetics. The relatively exact snapping actually plays on 1/12 and 1/16 ticks, and looks visibly uneven in play. I'm not going to post the screenshot as it is a sore sight.

Kisses wrote:

@AZ Yes I can see that but having 05:13:697 (1) and 05:15:411 (1) play as constant 1/4s and 05:14:554 (1) as constant 1/6 does feel like a sin, given the fact there is almost no contrast between the 3 sections. This is why I stated it come across as very artificial.


edit: @wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww what are the different instruments you're mapping?

Kisses wrote:

edit: @wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww what are the different instruments you're mapping?

Ascendance wrote:

there was no 1/16 and only 1 1/12 in the snapping I discussed with others.

Ascendance wrote:

find something that works better then instead of implying i'm not doing a good enough job fixing your map

-wwwww wrote:

Kisses wrote:

edit: @wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww what are the different instruments you're mapping?

accordion and then the percussion

Kisses wrote:

The percussion does include some 1/6 snaps but it's definitely not a continuous, maybe overmapping would be what some people would go for but it does clash with a problem that I'll state below.

You've mapped the accordion > percussion > accordion all in the space of a few seconds. Switching layers this frequently sounds incredibly off putting and focusing on one instrument is much preferred over mapping different instruments as you please. It does come off as awkward to switch to percussion from the accordion after when the accordion is still very much audible to the player and you've shown so much focus to it at the start

alienflybot wrote:

Recheck!

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[ General]

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  Tags

1. Remove 'phantasmagoria flower view' as these words are included in the Source.

[ Last Judgement]

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  Gameplay

1. 02:15:174 (1,2,1) - Movement here seems to be lacking a bit, so the emphasis at this point is not so well. Maybe you can try this: Ctrl+H 02:13:955 (1,2,1) - altogether and move this to x:428. In that way, the mentioned part will become back and forth movements which can emphasize the beat at 02:15:799 (1) - pretty well by the dash.
2. 02:17:631 (1,2) - Why not a dash? Feels a bit inconsistent since most of these long slider patterns have dashes between each other (for emphasizing Whistles), such as 02:12:128 (1,2) - .
3. 02:25:591 (2) - Maybe change this to 1/2 patterns? The beat at the red tick, i.e. 02:25:900 - is not mapped.
4. 07:08:103 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Maybe just keep them being NC'ed every 2 complete white tick snaps? Only this part has denser amount of NC while the later-on parts are less dense (with at least 6-8 combo each).
5. 07:53:710 (7) - How about inclining this more to the vertical? I think this is less intense than the parts at 07:52:535 (1) - and 07:54:102 (1) - .
6. 07:58:997 (3,4) - I find the distance here a bit large, mind shortening it by moving (4) to x:444 or a few pixel larger? In this case the distance is likely similar to the inner distance of a 1/4 slider.

Poke me after.

-wwwww wrote:

Yes