1. Futsuu (2.45 stars, 242 notes)
2. Inner Oni (6.64 stars, 718 notes)
3. Kantan (1.53 stars, 144 notes)
4. Muzukashii (3.18 stars, 383 notes)
5. Oni (4.16 stars, 519 notes)

Stingy wrote:

[Inner Oni]
00:23:640 (133) - Change to k because of the "wooh!" vocal. Also, it will match 00:23:095 (128) -. no if you focuses to the music, it sounds quite low. so better if kkd imo

[Oni]
00:20:026 (72) - Change these notes to k. I suggest this because it is more fun to play and also sounds better with 00:21:049 (79,80,81) - because more k.
[] changed
;/ yeah that's it

• k = kat d = don K = big kat D = big don

1. It's just suggestions/corrections, don't take it badly. You are free to accept them or not.
2. If you accept my suggestions/corrections, apply also in similar parts for consistency
3. If you don't accept my suggestions/corrections, clarify why you do not accept them.

[ General]

1. 01:16:484 (1) - Fix the spinner end, I suggest end in 01:18:101 - or 01:18:024 -
2. It's optional, but you can make other diff beetwen Oni-Inner Oni to create a better spread

[ Kantan]

1. 00:11:640 (3,12) - You could remove those notes, there aren't a melody as to add a note. Is better if you follow the melody like 00:14:367 (8) -, is more noticeable and easy to play.
2. 00:35:367 (16,16) - Change to kat, the pitch is similar than 00:33:185 (11) -
3. 01:04:276 (37,39) - I think remove those notes, is some similar than you make in the beginning. Those notes can be confuse by the BPM changes
4. 01:23:746 (12) - Change to don, the pitch is more low than 01:19:383 (3) -
5. 01:32:201 (8) - Same as above

[ Futsuu]

1. 00:13:822 (17) - Change to don, the pitch is low as to set it in kat
2. 00:15:458 (22) - Delete to make consistency with 00:11:095 -
3. 00:18:185 (31) - Same as 00:13:822 (17) -
4. 00:32:640 - 00:36:185 - Is some repetitive the patterns, I think you could vary a bit those.
5. 00:58:276 (14) - Change to kat? Make consistency with 01:02:640 (22) -

[ Muzukashii]

1. 00:14:504 (32) - Change to kat? I think the pitch is more high than 00:12:322 -
2. 00:12:322 - Change to kat if you accept above
3. 00:40:413 (160) - Delete? Keep consistency with 00:31:685 -
4. 01:02:367 (30,31) - Ctrl + G to consistency with 00:58:004 (18,19) - , have similar pitch
5. 01:36:155 (45,51) - Delete those. To improve the gap with futsuu

[ Oni]

1. 00:11:231 (16) - Change to don? I think the pitch is low, like 00:15:595 (44) -
2. 00:17:640 (57) - Change to don, same pitch than 00:15:458 (43) -
3. 00:25:822 (113) - Change to kat? The pitch is more high than 00:24:731 (106) -
4. 00:39:185 (210) - Remove finisher, it don't have a crash cymbal like 00:34:822 -
5. 00:44:095 (4) - Add finisher? I listen a crash cymbal like 00:43:549 (244,9) -
6. 01:08:290 (57) - Add finisher, a noticeable crash cymbal

[ Inner Oni]

1. 01:31:383 (33) - High pitch, would be kat
   
   Too good for me~

gaston_2199 wrote:

Hi!
M4M from my queue ~
Some clarifications:

• k = kat d = don K = big kat D = big don

1. It's just suggestions/corrections, don't take it badly. You are free to accept them or not.
2. If you accept my suggestions/corrections, apply also in similar parts for consistency
3. If you don't accept my suggestions/corrections, clarify why you do not accept them.

[ General]

1. 01:16:484 (1) - Fix the spinner end, I suggest end in 01:18:101 - or 01:18:024 - 01:18:331 - still the best end spinner for me. to emphasize that vocal. also fix end spinner in kantan to here.
2. It's optional, but you can make other diff beetwen Oni-Inner Oni to create a better spread i don't think it needed because inner oni is just an extra diff. also notespread looks okay for me.

[ Kantan]

1. 00:11:640 (3,12) - You could remove those notes, there aren't a melody as to add a note. Is better if you follow the melody like 00:14:367 (8) -, is more noticeable and easy to play. oops true. deleted.
2. 00:35:367 (16,16) - Change to kat, the pitch is similar than 00:33:185 (11) - changed (16,17,18) to kat
3. 01:04:276 (37,39) - I think remove those notes, is some similar than you make in the beginning. Those notes can be confuse by the BPM changes i want to make smaller gap to futsuu, so i added a note here.
4. 01:23:746 (12) - Change to don, the pitch is more low than 01:19:383 (3) - i want to keep my consistency with 01:19:110 -
5. 01:32:201 (8) - Same as above changed. to keep the consistency.

[ Futsuu]

1. 00:13:822 (17) - Change to don, the pitch is low as to set it in kat changed
2. 00:15:458 (22) - Delete to make consistency with 00:11:095 - true
3. 00:18:185 (31) - Same as 00:13:822 (17) - delete 00:17:640 - instead.
4. 00:32:640 - 00:36:185 - Is some repetitive the patterns, I think you could vary a bit those. revamped
5. 00:58:276 (14) - Change to kat? Make consistency with 01:02:640 (22) - tthe music is actually different, but this looks good though.

[ Muzukashii]

1. 00:14:504 (32) - Change to kat? I think the pitch is more high than 00:12:322 - nice structure.
2. 00:12:322 - Change to kat if you accept above this pitch is lower than previous kat.
3. 00:40:413 (160) - Delete? Keep consistency with 00:31:685 - yeah
4. 01:02:367 (30,31) - Ctrl + G to consistency with 00:58:004 (18,19) - , have similar pitch that pitch is clearly different on the end 1/2 pattern. 01:02:367 - has very high pitch while 00:58:004 - that clap or snare or whatever it's =.= is at 00:58:004 - and go down at 00:58:276
5. 01:36:155 (45,51) - Delete those. To improve the gap with futsuu deleted

[ Oni]

1. 00:11:231 (16) - Change to don? I think the pitch is low, like 00:15:595 (44) - well changed.
2. 00:17:640 (57) - Change to don, same pitch than 00:15:458 (43) - yes
3. 00:25:822 (113) - Change to kat? The pitch is more high than 00:24:731 (106) - yes if i follow the instrument. but i follow the drum here, so better to keep the consistent here.
4. 00:39:185 (210) - Remove finisher, it don't have a crash cymbal like 00:34:822 - oops changed.
5. 00:44:095 (4) - Add finisher? I listen a crash cymbal like 00:43:549 (244,9) - nice catch.
6. 01:08:290 (57) - Add finisher, a noticeable crash cymbal i don't want to put finished at the end of triplet on oni, looks very hard.

[ Inner Oni]

1. 01:31:383 (33) - High pitch, would be kat nope, this even lower than 01:31:246 - and better to emphasize high pitch at 01:31:246 - and 01:31:519
   
   Too good for me~

That's all, really good mapset. Take my stars~
Good luck!

Backfire wrote:

[Inner Oni]
00:25:754 - nice little roll sound so you could add a d here. i want to keep my consistency here.
01:29:474 - I think you can restructure your stream here, to like kkddkk(dddk)d(kkkd) instead of what it was before, I actually think it fits the music better and it's a lot more intuitive on the hands. i don't think so. the music begins from low pitch so i think it'd better with don for the first note.
The inner seems nice thank you

[Oni]
It is really really hard to find much to say here, other than super nitpicky things, like 00:26:095 - making these 2 5 plets 3 plets because I think it's not rly appropriate to do 5's so early on? I dunno, Like I said, nitpicky. that's why i used simple pattern on two 5 plets, it's appropriate for me if used simple pattern like this, i believe. but i deleted 5plets in second kiai for better structure i guess.

[Muzu]
01:02:367 (31,32) - ctrl+g? It's like that in the sequence before the one before this, so like, I guess it's like you're alternating patterns this way. i know, but the pitch is clearly high :/ i will change this if others mention this.

[Futsuu]
00:45:185 - Maybe add a don here to differentiate like, the map is going into a slow part? so you get hard-ish part idk oni and muzu is even empty here, so i don't want to put tha
HP Drain 6 I think is better than 7. i normally used HP 7 for futsuu on short map

[Kantan]
00:18:458 - Kat? I think you need to make a change for like players who are getting too comfortable with the pattern you laid out, challenge them slightly. sure, at least it's consistent with first kiai


I am pretty embarassed that I could only find small changes in each map, but I really looked quite thoroughly at the maps. You did a really great job with this set!

Invective wrote:

hi

mod

Kantan

1. 00:09:185 - I think having another D here would be fine, it follows a logical progression (spacing is halved every 2 notes) and wouldn't be overly difficult to hit at this level (relative to the rest of the map which uses some 1/1)

but this looks like my futsuu, and i think kantan should be easier and i deleted this.
Futsuu

1. 00:43:823 (58) - Change to k? For consistency with the rest of the kiai section (d k k on 1/1 at the start of every 2 bars). changed

Muzukashii

1. 01:29:746 (4) - Swap with 01:31:928 (18) - ? Like in the previous kiai where the music is roughly the same, the pattern with the higher pitch would use dkkdkk over dkddkk. changed only at 01:29:746 - to kat to keep my consistency.

Oni

1. 00:43:549 (244) - Change to D? Same idea as the one in Futsuu (given this is the only non-occurrence of the pattern in this diff's first kiai, unlike in the Muzu where it differs at several spots), unless the goal was to differentiate these notes on the white ticks from the notes in between.

big kat is easier to hit after hitting triple don. so would be better if make this easier instead of following the structure if it's troubling players imo
Inner Oni

1. 00:43:685 (180,181,182) - Change to ddk? Same consistency idea again. i follow that vocal sound lol. because it's be like something unique part here (that there's no vocals like this in other part)

There's really not much to say about this set. Good luck with it!

Hope it helps

Diva Days wrote:

[ General]

Think again about The SV change on Kantan,Futsuu because song is all time fast also have bpm change. it's seemingly okay, still readable though.

[ Futsuu]

00:22:822 (41),(42),(43) - i don't recommend kkd on Futsuu, change it to kkk. ddd also not recommend since 00:20:640 is ddd. yeah, also changed this whole structure.
00:27:731 (3) - i think it's better change to D here, because next one 00:28:004 is K D K K still better for me, because the vocals is more prominent than drum.
00:31:004 (14),(15),(16) - same as 00:22:822 (41),(42),(43) but change to kdd nope, kkd is still common pattern that easy to read/hit. also it's reverse with 00:29:095 -
00:35:367 (29),(30),(31) - ^ ^
00:37:004 - how about give variety here? revamped by myself


00:44:095 (59),(60),(61) - same as 00:22:822 (41),(42),(43) but change to kkk ^
01:02:640 (22) - u forgot finisher here. oh it was intentional since, i don't want to use many big notes on lower diffs.
01:19:928 (7),(8),(9) - same as same as 00:22:822 (41),(42),(43) as i mentioned above
01:22:110 (16),(17),(18) - ^ ^

[ Muzukashii]

00:27:731 (101) - as i said on Futsuu same here
00:44:504 (185) - uh, seems like this note fine to delete. nope, futsuu even has a note here.
01:02:640 (31) - as i said on Futsuu i don't think this is good to giving an emphasize here. because this 01:02:913 - empty note makes sound weird

1. 00:20:640 - This k ddd k ddd k seems a bit random here compared to the rest of these rhythms. Try making them similiar like k ddk d kkddk or something.

1. 00:23:504 - Hmm, using the triplet instead of it's current place, use kkd starting from this spot to emphasize an actual sound. What I mean is, 00:23:299 (96) - move this note to 00:23:572 - here and 00:23:504 (98,99) - apply ctrl+g on those.
2. 01:29:474 - The first part of the section is too easy compared to Inner Oni. It has 1/4 1/6 streams while Oni only has 1/4 3-plets maximum. (not talking about the next part.) Try increasing the density by using 5-plets and the spread will be more clear.

1. 00:10:822 ~ 00:18:731 - Between those two parts there is no 3/2 break, which requires at least one considering the intensity of the kiai. The first part is harder than that, due to breaks. Same applies to the next section until kiai.
2. 00:43:004 - I think something like k d kkk D fits here better, and it'll create some variation between this and the first one.
3. 01:02:640 (31) - I strongly recommend kat on this for two reasons: 1) There is a noticeable high sound on it, 2) You mapped that note as kat on every other diff.
4. 01:16:486 (1) - I recommend moving this spinner to white tick. Plus, it's unsnapped.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Well hello there. Nice map!

[General]

01:14:514 - Put a red point here and omit it, since they are two overlapped lines with different speeds due to the BPM and SV. i did wrong snap actually. my bad. snapped all either timing lines and pattern until the climax of bpm changes.

01:38:201 - End the kiai here maybe, since the intensity of the song is lowering down. i agree, but this spinner is also interesting to be bright so i do when players hit the big don like he turns off the lamp of bar

You could use 1.20 SV on Futsuu and Kantan instead of changing all the green points lol i used to do this lol

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:20:640 - This k ddd k ddd k seems a bit random here compared to the rest of these rhythms. Try making them similiar like k ddk d kkddk or something. well, changed to k ddk k ddd k. the structure still keep for this.

Nothing else lol, the diff is quite solid.

[Oni]

1. 00:23:504 - Hmm, using the triplet instead of it's current place, use kkd starting from this spot to emphasize an actual sound. What I mean is, 00:23:299 (96) - move this note to 00:23:572 - here and 00:23:504 (98,99) - apply ctrl+g on those. i know what you mean. but consistency is my priority first for me. also i follow the music from 00:19:540 - rather than suddenly changing to vocals. so better to keep my consistency here
2. 01:29:474 - The first part of the section is too easy compared to Inner Oni. It has 1/4 1/6 streams while Oni only has 1/4 3-plets maximum. (not talking about the next part.) Try increasing the density by using 5-plets and the spread will be more clear. done

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:10:822 ~ 00:18:731 - Between those two parts there is no 3/2 break, which requires at least one considering the intensity of the kiai. The first part is harder than that, due to breaks. Same applies to the next section until kiai. oops, done
2. 00:43:004 - I think something like k d kkk D fits here better, and it'll create some variation between this and the first one. i agree! changed.
3. 01:02:640 (31) - I strongly recommend kat on this for two reasons: 1) There is a noticeable high sound on it, 2) You mapped that note as kat on every other diff. well i doubt to put don tbh =.= changed back to kat instead, i mean swapped (30,31)
4. 01:16:486 (1) - I recommend moving this spinner to white tick. Plus, it's unsnapped. done

[Futsuu]

Nothing to say about here, I like the diff. thank you

[Kantan]

00:45:458 - How about adding a note here? It will make the kiai ending a bit stronger. oh sure

Pretty good mapset, call me when you apply this mod.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Small IRC on minor SV changes at Muzukashii

14:33 frukoyurdakul: yolo
14:34 frukoyurdakul: on sky delta do you want to change anything else?
14:34 Nishizumi: wassup
14:34 Nishizumi: seems no change anything
14:34 Nishizumi: maybe
14:34 Nishizumi: lol
14:34 frukoyurdakul: good, thanks :3
14:34 frukoyurdakul: hmm, do a quick check then i'm about to bubble
14:34 Nishizumi: :3
14:34 Nishizumi: sure
14:35 frukoyurdakul: ye im waiting
14:35 Nishizumi: xDD
14:36 frukoyurdakul: just want to mention something
14:36 frukoyurdakul: 0n muzukashii, 00:53:913 - this SV change looks a bit harsh to me
14:37 Nishizumi: or it looks too fast for muzu?
14:37 frukoyurdakul: yeah the increase seems too much
14:37 frukoyurdakul: you can increase 00:47:913 - this value and adjust the rest of it
14:37 frukoyurdakul: like 0.85x here
14:37 frukoyurdakul: 00:53:913 - 0.9
14:37 frukoyurdakul: 00:54:185 - 0.95
14:37 frukoyurdakul: 00:54:322 - 0.975
14:38 frukoyurdakul: (yes, the editor accepts the 0.975 it just rounds it)
14:38 Nishizumi: better to change 00:47:913 - 0.85x
14:38 frukoyurdakul: yeah I said that to
14:38 frukoyurdakul: too*
14:38 Nishizumi: 00:53:913 - 0.91x
14:38 frukoyurdakul: why 91?
14:38 Nishizumi: 00:54:185 - 0.94
14:39 Nishizumi: and the triplet inreases 0.3x each notes
14:39 Nishizumi: xD
14:39 frukoyurdakul: let me test it but it doesn't sound smooth
14:39 Nishizumi: test it, it looks smooth here
14:40 frukoyurdakul: 00:53:913 (5,6) - if you want a smooth approach these should differenciate 0.6
14:40 frukoyurdakul: not 0.3
14:40 frukoyurdakul: they're 1/1 and 00:54:185 (6,7) - those two are 1/2
14:40 frukoyurdakul: while the SV increase is both 0.3
14:40 frukoyurdakul: 00:53:913 - make this 0.88x and we're good to go
14:41 Nishizumi: i mean, 0.85x > 0.91x > 0.94x > 0.97x > 1.00x
14:41 frukoyurdakul: update and I'll look
14:42 frukoyurdakul: it'll be the best way
14:42 Nishizumi: okay
14:42 Nishizumi: yeah
14:42 Nishizumi: done
14:43 frukoyurdakul: okay yeah looks better
14:43 Nishizumi: xD
14:43 frukoyurdakul: anything else you want to change?
14:43 Nishizumi: nothing
14:43 Nishizumi: except you mention again
14:44 frukoyurdakul: umm
14:44 frukoyurdakul: why did you use 1.30 SV on muzu?
14:44 Nishizumi: my bad..
14:44 frukoyurdakul: remember to snap the sliders too
14:45 frukoyurdakul: since they'll unsnap after the change
14:45 Nishizumi: i think i don't use any slider here
14:45 Nishizumi: maybe fix bpm changes onlyh
14:45 Nishizumi: only
14:46 Nishizumi: i mean on sv transition
14:46 frukoyurdakul: I believe they'll stay the same
14:46 Nishizumi: or keep it wdy think?
14:46 frukoyurdakul: since you only changed the base SV
14:47 Nishizumi: okay
14:47 Nishizumi: so updating
14:48 Nishizumi: updated
14:49 frukoyurdakul: looks good
14:49 Nishizumi:
14:50 frukoyurdakul: ah
14:50 frukoyurdakul: one last thing
14:51 frukoyurdakul: futsuu HP = 6
14:51 frukoyurdakul: noticed now sorry
14:51 Nishizumi: smh my bad
14:51 Nishizumi: lol me too
14:51 frukoyurdakul: okay nice

Bubbled!

Surono wrote:

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Chromoxx wrote:

01:38:065 - why doesn't the kiai end here? the whole spinner is basically a calm fadeout.....

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Well hello there. Nice map!

01:38:201 - End the kiai here maybe, since the intensity of the song is lowering down. i agree, but this spinner is also interesting to be bright so i do when players hit the big don like he turns off the lamp of bar

Surono wrote:

so the concern its about the purpose of kiai usages? ok I would give optional for this. 00:45:867 - since in here is weak flows so 01:27:292 - this end of kiai can be moved to 01:29:201 - here, because it could be give a differences between first kiai to second and third kiai yeah since second and third kiai are still well flows than first kiai that has low flows makes sense. but there's big kat, who does more fit to be "turn on" rather than "turn off" the light of kiai. so i'll keep my effect here. about this effect is rankable or not, i don't know =w= let's wait what qat will say

and then

RC:
Kiai time should only be used for the chorus or emphasized parts of a song. Kiai flashes/short kiais are discouraged for several reasons: they disturb the gameplay experience especially on low-end PC users, and can cause trouble for epileptic users. i know it's only used for it, but "disturb the gameplay experience especially on low-end PC users"? i'm low-mid end pc user but i don't feel bothered about this, and that light is not dazzling and very short.

01:29:201 - ~ 01:29:269 - and then entering 01:29:474 - this, my laptop fine and well almost 2018 use reason sense still works? let QAT decided it i don't know this is rankable or not, but i believe someday this would be a new meta mapping xDD return to first point, let's wait what qat will say xDDD

I expecting this would be fixed, just an half day being qualified tho.

Nishizumi wrote:

Surono wrote:

so the concern its about the purpose of kiai usages? ok I would give optional for this. 00:45:867 - since in here is weak flows so 01:27:292 - this end of kiai can be moved to 01:29:201 - here, because it could be give a differences between first kiai to second and third kiai yeah since second and third kiai are still well flows than first kiai that has low flows makes sense. but there's big kat, who does more fit to be "turn on" rather than "turn off" the light of kiai. so i'll keep my effect here. about this effect is rankable or not, i don't know =w= let's wait what qat will say
then it seems you "agreed" this but you rather like to being Subjectively with this, its good way if that big kat emphasized with end of 2nd kiai like 01:42:565 - you did here then start to enter 3rd kiai, yeah I meant your current concept really good tho.. the pippidon/flashes 01:27:292 - start to be off then you wanted 01:29:201 - shock effects in here.. yaaa this 01:29:474 - when continue to here really imo the flashes kiai doesnt really give a strong feeling with this thingy, even it feels nothing with costume skin unless the players are using default skin. im not forcing you to accept this and at all up to you, your map. I just tried to be more spesific with my reasoning about the differences emphasis of kiais, the weak ones and both of part those arent weak. kiai suppossed to emphasized chorus/a part of song right?
SVs already enough to give smth epic gameplay

i don't know, hmmm. thanks for checking anyway im rechecking this b4 cuz I take my responsible as the last user who icond your map. yeah yw tho

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

The music from 01:38:201 - onward is relatively calm, so it would be better to end the kiai there and lower the volume of the spinner to about 80%, like you did previously at 00:45:867 - to show the intensity difference. You may also make 01:27:292 - this part softer as well in order not to overpower the background siren-like sound.

In addition, the kiai flash at 01:29:201 - seems to be a bit unnecessary as the kiai appears 1/1 quickly after. The loud sound could already be emphasized using an increase of SV without the frequent toggling.

Feel free to tell me your thoughts about these.

• [Kantan]

1. 00:53:913 - unnecessary timing point since nothing has been mapped inside. You may remove it.
2. 01:18:565 - consider adding a green line here with 0.9x SV as you did in other 220BPM sessions ?

• [Futsuu]

1. 01:31:383 - maybe add k here to correspond the difficulty increase like other difficulties ?
2. 01:33:155 (18) - moving this note to 01:32:883 - would provide greater pattern variety in this kiai.
3. 01:35:746 - similar to 01:31:383 - , you may add d here as well.

• [Inner Oni]

1. 00:45:731 - you may add a green line here with 100% volume to end the kiai at the same spot as lower difficulties.

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

• [Kantan]

1. 00:53:913 - unnecessary timing point since nothing has been mapped inside. You may remove it. oops
2. 01:18:565 - consider adding a green line here with 0.9x SV as you did in other 220BPM sessions ? wtf after 5 days and still exist. added

• [Futsuu]

1. 01:31:383 - maybe add k here to correspond the difficulty increase like other difficulties ? oh is it allowed to use long notes? add if so
2. 01:33:155 (18) - moving this note to 01:32:883 - would provide greater pattern variety in this kiai. yep, and changed it to kat
3. 01:35:746 - similar to 01:31:383 - , you may add d here as well. added

• [Inner Oni]

1. 00:45:731 - you may add a green line here with 100% volume to end the kiai at the same spot as lower difficulties. oops

You may call me back for a recheck later.

• [General]
  
  Addition of timing points for Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni.

1. 01:27:292 - 80%
2. 01:38:201 - 80%

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

• [General]
  
  Addition of timing points for Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni.

1. 01:27:292 - 80%
2. 01:38:201 - 80%