Edit: you forgot the irc we had beforehand about hitsounds n stuffProtastic101 wrote:
delet dis map[General]wrong keymode, +1 maybe? sad life
[Disconcerting, like my math test on monday]
00:09:156 (9156|1,9318|1,9480|1,9642|2,10453|1) - Tbh, might just control H this so there's not so much strain on the left hand with the 2 1 2 stacks. Tbh, shouldn't matter too much, but fair point.
00:20:345 (20345|1,20385|0) - I think it'd be easier to hit the burst if you control J this so that the entire burst consists of two 1234 rolls and then control J 00:20:507 (20507|1,20547|0) - to make the final half 1243 splitrolls. Easier to group the notes this way and hit them without the constant changes in direction,
especially at faster BPMs such as this. Sure thing =w=)b
00:26:831 - to 00:27:966 - I know the mirrored pattern here is most likely not intentional, but I'd try to vary the directions a bit to avoid having the same general hand movements but reversed. So maybe like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9047095 Totally not intentional rip me xd
00:40:696 - 00:41:345 - There's a note here so the 1/4 burst is continuous for the entire measure. I'd add the notes in there then to represent a small minibuild up leading into the next phrase.
00:51:074 - 00:51:723 - 00:51:885 - ^ Could do something with trills like this to differentiate it from the broken streams before it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9047117 Fair enough then. Just changed a little bit at this end bc you included OH trill :c
01:23:912 (83912|1,84237|1) - I'd consider moving this to col 1 instead cause col 2 already has quite a bit of weight in this measure just from 01:23:264 (83264|1,83588|1) - in the kick - snare (jump - hand) before it Sure, why not.
01:27:318 - P sure this is in 1/6 because unlike 01:26:993 - where the pitch of the buzzes are all the same, you can hear four distinct and descending pitches.
I think it's ok hear to make an exception for consistency though because it's a very tiny detail of the music that's hard to spot, but you might also consider changing the snap to help lead into the 1/3 at 01:27:642 - . At this difficulty level though, both snaps are easily read and hit by the player. tfw can't hear about what you're trying to get at... there are more distinct ones as 1/6, but the "white noise" ones I kept to 1/8 (that were totally not 1/16 at one point) just for consistency, as you mentioned.
01:38:345 (98345|1) - I think it'd be nice to make this a 1/1 LN for the vocal to act as a bridge into the next section at 01:38:669 - as it forces the player to coordinate both hands to release and hit accurately rather than having the player anticipate the amount of time between one beat for when to hit the next note. The original plan was to have SVs here but I couldn't get it to work well so sure an LN would do nicely.
01:42:885 (102885|2,102885|1,103210|2,103210|1,103534|1,103534|2) - Not the biggest fan of repeating jumps like this, especially of the 23 variety cause it puts all the strain on the middle finger imo. Instead, I'd try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9047153 tfw variety is hardplus no comment about 14 variety?love that stack in col 4 tho. I'll keep as is for now because I haven't thought of anything to replace it with.
01:48:399 (108399|3,108723|0) - I'd try to differentiate these longer held buzzes by making them 1/6 long LNs as that's how long they last compared to 01:48:507 (108507|2,108615|1,108831|3,108939|2) - which are instantaneous Knew there was something different about those two
02:09:696 (129696|3,129750|2,129804|3) - pls gaben stahp https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9047169 . Think the screenshot I made is easier cause the minitrill is two handed rather than one handed, so it's like alternating two 1/3 jacks across col 2 and 3 :thinking:Yeah but that movement in the middle is complete cancer (je le deteste) so I did something else and hopefully it's not more cancer
02:30:074 - Sounds like a very quiet shift in pitch here, but it's really not that noticeable so I can understand why you most likely intentionally left it out. Yeah it didn't really feel that significant to map something like that. Plus I was transitioning map focus here
03:48:561 (228561|0,228723|1,228885|1,229047|0) - Think it'd be easier to hit these if you flipped columns so that there aren't two 1/2 LNs in col 1, one right after the other. So something like this would be easier cause there's less strain in col 1 than what you have now (didnt flip the last note cause it'd have create two ministacks on the left hand I didnt notice before) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9047188 Sure thing =w=)b
05:01:047 - still waiting for this finish :^)))))))) sfdgjnjerkglwebfvjskldfgvqhjerklgefvhujkl
oh yeah, if I said something that contradicts your layering, it's cause I deleted all the bookmarks :^) sigh...
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2017-09-07 01:02 Protastic101: tf is the diff name lol
2017-09-07 01:03 Asherz007: lith picked it
2017-09-07 01:03 Protastic101: also, bad preview point thx
2017-09-07 01:03 Asherz007: aw cmon
2017-09-07 01:08 Protastic101: missing a crash at the end :^)))
2017-09-07 01:08 Asherz007: dtfgjgvbyjgiluutxjyrertshfdyflul
2017-09-07 01:08 Asherz007: 9.2 ok for hp then I guess
2017-09-07 01:09 Protastic101: :thinking:
2017-09-07 01:09 Protastic101: would have been great to get a couple more samples tbh
2017-09-07 01:09 Asherz007: true lol
2017-09-07 01:09 Asherz007: I mean these work surprisingly well
2017-09-07 01:10 Asherz007: one minute delayering at the end was super annoying
2017-09-07 01:10 Protastic101: 02:50:345 - stuff for this would have been nice as well
2017-09-07 01:11 Protastic101: and the kicks too probs
2017-09-07 01:11 Protastic101: asking for too much at this point orz
2017-09-07 01:11 Asherz007: Well, can always give lith a nudge :^)
2017-09-07 01:11 Protastic101: 03:14:020 (194020|2) - this is such a perfect fit lmao
2017-09-08 00:52 Asherz007: finished apush stuff now
2017-09-08 00:52 Asherz007: ?
2017-09-08 00:52 Protastic101: yeah
2017-09-08 00:53 Asherz007: nice diff name
2017-09-08 00:53 Protastic101: thx
2017-09-08 00:54 Protastic101: wanna mod strength now?
2017-09-08 00:54 Asherz007: If you want
2017-09-08 00:55 Asherz007: How cancer is it out of 10
2017-09-08 00:55 Protastic101: cancer enough that I wanna play it again :^)
2017-09-08 00:55 Asherz007: lmfao
2017-09-08 00:57 Asherz007: #offsetproblemsmaybe
2017-09-08 00:58 Protastic101: I think that's just me lol
2017-09-08 00:58 Asherz007: you're hitting mega late
2017-09-08 00:58 Asherz007: :P
2017-09-08 00:58 Protastic101: I've been having problems with hitting too late lately
2017-09-08 00:58 Asherz007: rip
2017-09-08 00:58 Protastic101: I cant figure out if that means I move my offset negative or positive though so I've just kept it at 0 :thinking:
2017-09-08 01:02 Asherz007: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9038356 tfw spectator bug]
2017-09-08 01:02 Protastic101: wew
2017-09-08 01:03 Protastic101: I think I made my offset problem worse lol
2017-09-08 01:03 Asherz007: lmfao
2017-09-08 01:03 Protastic101: do I make it negative or positive aaa
2017-09-08 01:03 Asherz007: idk either lul
2017-09-08 01:03 Asherz007: I would think positive
2017-09-08 01:04 Asherz007: anti-mash hp wew
2017-09-08 01:04 Protastic101: HP 9.2 wtf lol
2017-09-08 01:05 Asherz007: map is overrated tho
2017-09-08 01:05 Protastic101: can you make it max 9 cause you literally only have jumptrills to deal with here
2017-09-08 01:05 Asherz007: wat
2017-09-08 01:05 Asherz007: lower wai
2017-09-08 01:05 Protastic101: there's nothing "mashable" about the map except for that one 1/8 burst, but that was only one time in the entire map
2017-09-08 01:05 Asherz007: there's a 1/6 one too
2017-09-08 01:05 Protastic101: there is?
2017-09-08 01:05 Asherz007: But 9.2 basically makes it failable
2017-09-08 01:06 Asherz007: Because there's essentially only one spot where you can fail more or less
2017-09-08 01:06 Asherz007: 00:20:183 - 1/8
2017-09-08 01:06 Asherz007: 02:09:156 - 1/6
2017-09-08 01:07 Protastic101: :thinking:
2017-09-08 01:07 Protastic101: personally not a fan of the 9.2 tho tbh
2017-09-08 01:07 Asherz007: :c
2017-09-08 01:07 Protastic101: really think it should be reserved for more technical maps rather than bursty maps such as this
2017-09-08 01:08 Protastic101: I might suggest to tone the HP down to 8.7 or so but raise the OD to 9
2017-09-08 01:08 Asherz007: time to make it 9.7 :^)
2017-09-08 01:08 Protastic101: w e w
2017-09-08 01:08 Asherz007: so 9/9 would also be fine
2017-09-08 01:08 Protastic101: I still think HP 9 is too high
2017-09-08 01:08 Asherz007: bleh
2017-09-08 01:08 Asherz007: you're boring :^)
2017-09-08 01:08 Asherz007: I wanna be e d g y
2017-09-08 01:09 Protastic101: dont be edgy in a generic chart :^)
2017-09-08 01:09 Asherz007: *sad*
2017-09-08 01:09 Asherz007: ACTION cri
2017-09-08 01:09 Protastic101: ACTION cri with you
2017-09-08 01:09 Protastic101: other suggestion
2017-09-08 01:09 Protastic101: increase your timeline zoom aaaa
2017-09-08 01:09 Asherz007: *I check hs last*
2017-09-08 01:09 Asherz007: I keep telling you
2017-09-08 01:10 Asherz007: they scroll by too fast otherwise
2017-09-08 01:10 Protastic101: 00:02:345 (2345|1) - and 00:02:507 (2507|0) - are different pitches than the stacked notes in col 2 and 1
2017-09-08 01:10 Protastic101: might move them to 4 and 3 respectively in that case
2017-09-08 01:10 Protastic101: that note always tripped me up when I test played too :/
2017-09-08 01:10 Asherz007: wat
2017-09-08 01:11 Asherz007: no they're not, they're just louder for some reason
2017-09-08 01:11 Protastic101: 00:07:534 (7534|1,7696|0) - same thing for these two. Also, could you not copy pasta the note placements there? :c
2017-09-08 01:11 Asherz007: PR sux
2017-09-08 01:11 Asherz007: copy pasta was not intentional
2017-09-08 01:12 Protastic101: but could u not thx
2017-09-08 01:12 Asherz007: Time to flip second half
2017-09-08 01:12 Asherz007: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2017-09-08 01:13 Asherz007: Would that work tho
2017-09-08 01:15 Asherz007: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9038400 why noma so repetitive] (would something like this do instead)
2017-09-08 01:15 Asherz007: scuse the zoom
2017-09-08 01:16 Protastic101: 00:01:858 (1858|1,2020|1,2183|1) - D#, 00:02:345 (2345|1) - C#, 00:02:507 (2507|0) - B, 00:02:669 - some other pitch I cant figure out
2017-09-08 01:17 Protastic101: also, pls no flip second half either
2017-09-08 01:17 Protastic101: that's pretty much the same thing but reversed
2017-09-08 01:17 Asherz007: eh
2017-09-08 01:18 Protastic101: 00:00:075 - might also suggest using 20% volume or something from here to 00:10:453 -
2017-09-08 01:18 Asherz007: sure
2017-09-08 01:18 Asherz007: hs vols :thinking:
2017-09-08 01:18 Protastic101: 00:02:345 (2345|1,2507|0) - but ye, pitch changes here so I wouldnt stack them kthxbai
2017-09-08 01:19 Asherz007: nuuuuu
2017-09-08 01:19 Asherz007: dun leaf meh
2017-09-08 01:19 Asherz007: ACTION sad
2017-09-08 01:20 Protastic101: but i wanna leave you
2017-09-08 01:20 Asherz007: ACTION sob
2017-09-08 01:20 Protastic101: im going to change things around
2017-09-08 01:20 Protastic101: and check hitsounds first and chart second :D
2017-09-08 01:20 Asherz007: ok lol
2017-09-08 01:21 Asherz007: absence of hitsounds where there aren't any at all is deliberate
2017-09-08 01:21 Asherz007: jus sayin
2017-09-08 01:21 Protastic101: 00:20:831 - might consider adding a finish here since there's a quieter crash here or whatever
2017-09-08 01:21 Protastic101: o ok
2017-09-08 01:21 Protastic101: inb4 deletes all hs
2017-09-08 01:21 Asherz007: I did think about that one but lithsound is too loud for it
2017-09-08 01:21 00:23:020 - tfw no note for vocal here *sad life*
2017-09-08 01:21 Protastic101: lithsound
2017-09-08 01:22 Protastic101: fucking
2017-09-08 01:22 Protastic101: dead
2017-09-08 01:22 Asherz007: <3
2017-09-08 01:22 Asherz007: Yeah I told ya layering focus changes between bookmarks
2017-09-08 01:22 Protastic101: but pls add note for vocal
2017-09-08 01:22 Protastic101: well shit
2017-09-08 01:22 Protastic101: I already removed all the bookmarks
2017-09-08 01:23 Protastic101: ughhh
2017-09-08 01:23 Asherz007: THEY WERE USEFUL FOR ONCE
2017-09-08 01:23 Protastic101: ACTION time to reupdate
2017-09-08 01:23 Protastic101: I HATE BOOKMARKS THAT AREN'T MINE
2017-09-08 01:23 Asherz007: :thinking:
2017-09-08 01:25 Asherz007: cus noma repetitive
2017-09-08 01:25 and we can't be too *generic*
2017-09-08 01:25 Protastic101: :ccc
2017-09-08 01:26 Asherz007: The layering's not that obscure tho
2017-09-08 01:27 Protastic101: 00:57:156 - tbh, I'd have started the 1/1 claps here rather than at 01:02:345 - as the claps are present in the music throughout, the only difference between the two parts is that 01:02:345 - is 1/2 instead of 1/1
2017-09-08 01:27 Asherz007: I was thinking about that
2017-09-08 01:27 Asherz007: keep finish there?
2017-09-08 01:28 Protastic101: yeah, I would cause there's one in the music too
2017-09-08 01:28 Asherz007: jus checkin
2017-09-08 01:29 Protastic101: 02:09:696 (129696|3,129750|2,129804|3) - w e w
2017-09-08 01:29 Asherz007: I tried
2017-09-08 01:29 Protastic101: 02:09:804 - add a finish for the start of a new section?
2017-09-08 01:30 Asherz007: get lith to put something different in there maybe? :^)
2017-09-08 01:30 Asherz007: "crash" dun fit that well here
2017-09-08 01:30 Asherz007: Trying to remember why triple tho
2017-09-08 01:31 Protastic101: kick + crash in the music?
2017-09-08 01:31 Asherz007: It's a crash-ish sound, but not cymbal
2017-09-08 01:31 Protastic101: yeah
2017-09-08 01:32 Protastic101: either way, it's loud tho
2017-09-08 01:32 Asherz007: true dat
2017-09-08 01:32 Asherz007: pls no kill meh I had to vocal map for variety
2017-09-08 01:32 Protastic101: ACTION shoots
2017-09-08 01:32 Asherz007: :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
2017-09-08 01:33 Asherz007: It's like 90s of basically the same thing in the middle tho
2017-09-08 01:33 Protastic101: 03:22:453 (202453|2,203102|3) - dont think the finishes here are necessary since there's really nothing in the music but the kicks at that point in time
2017-09-08 01:34 Protastic101: would have been better to replace them with claps instead
2017-09-08 01:34 Asherz007: fair point
2017-09-08 01:34 Protastic101: cause the structure is snares on 1/1, kicks on upbeats
2017-09-08 01:35 Asherz007: the rest of the map is kinda generic hs, sadly
2017-09-08 01:35 Protastic101: 03:53:588 (233588|2) - consider using a finish to represent the build down or whatever it's called?
2017-09-08 01:35 Asherz007: whoops
2017-09-08 01:35 Asherz007: Quite sure there was meant to be one there anyway
2017-09-08 01:35 Asherz007: hence triple
2017-09-08 01:36 Protastic101: lel
2017-09-08 01:36 Protastic101: 03:56:507 (236507|2,236507|0,236507|3,237156|1,237156|3,237156|0) - I'd make these jumps tbh. There's no snare in the music on the downbeats, only the crashes every 2/1 on 03:56:183 - 03:56:831 -
2017-09-08 01:36 Protastic101: would replace the claps with whistles too
2017-09-08 01:37 Asherz007: but there's now physical claps there :^)
2017-09-08 01:37 Asherz007: clap for clap
2017-09-08 01:38 Protastic101: I dont hear it though :c
2017-09-08 01:38 Protastic101: it just sounds like all the same dry snare to me
2017-09-08 01:38 Asherz007: :thinking:
2017-09-08 01:38 Asherz007: It's slightly more intense than the other kicks as well
2017-09-08 01:39 Protastic101: 03:57:480 (237480|0,237804|0,238129|0,238453|0) - could also add some finishes here for the 1/1 crashes in the music
2017-09-08 01:39 Protastic101: eh, guess it's ok then
2017-09-08 01:39 Asherz007: Ahead of you on that one
2017-09-08 01:39 Protastic101: 03:58:777 (238777|0) - also this too
2017-09-08 01:39 Protastic101: >:ccccc
2017-09-08 01:39 Asherz007: Was debating that last one tbh
2017-09-08 01:39 Protastic101: stop self modding so then I find less errors and be happier
2017-09-08 01:39 Protastic101: wait what
2017-09-08 01:40 Protastic101: 04:26:183 (266183|3,266345|2,266507|3,266669|2,266831|3,266993|2,267156|3,267318|2) - oh yeah, this stuff is p a i n f u l btw
2017-09-08 01:40 Asherz007: Like, the crash there feels barely audible to me
2017-09-08 01:40 Asherz007: dw it happens in lh too
2017-09-08 01:40 Protastic101: it'd be easier if there were no LNs on the upbeats, but cause there is, the timing is all screwed up and the strain is just :/
2017-09-08 01:40 Protastic101: yeah no, it's still painful as all hell though
2017-09-08 01:41 Asherz007: do I have to :c
2017-09-08 01:41 Protastic101: pls
2017-09-08 01:41 Asherz007: ACTION cri
2017-09-08 01:41 Asherz007: modding = making generic
2017-09-08 01:41 Asherz007: :^)
2017-09-08 01:42 Protastic101: 05:01:047 (301047|3) - dunno if I mentioned this or not, but adding a finish would be a nice end to the chart :^)))))))
2017-09-08 01:42 Asherz007: you did, and over my dead body
2017-09-08 01:42 Protastic101: 04:26:020 - for the parts like this, I'd recommend alternating the LNs around the note, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9038485
2017-09-08 01:43 Protastic101: damn, I gotta do a better job of remembering what I suggest :thinking:
2017-09-08 01:43 Protastic101: can you update what you've done real quick?
2017-09-08 01:43 Asherz007: hold on lemme fix that suggestion first
2017-09-08 01:43 Protastic101: wanna give the chart a quick once over and then go take a nap
2017-09-08 01:43 Protastic101: which one, the 4 minute one?
2017-09-08 01:43 Asherz007: `mhm
2017-09-08 01:44 Protastic101: if you apply something similar to that, make sure the following measures flow ok-ish
2017-09-08 01:44 Protastic101: actually, Im going to go take my nap now and Ill finish the rest in a forum post tonight or tomorrow
2017-09-08 01:44 Protastic101: or saturday
2017-09-08 01:44 Asherz007: okie dokie then lol
2017-09-08 01:44 Protastic101: or three weeks from now is most likely :^)
2017-09-08 01:44 Asherz007: o