Though I'd like to hear what she has to say-[Jess]- wrote:
Sigh,the dead is real
Will post some of my thought on this tmr since I am tried
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Actually, why are you saying it's dead when we had a ton of content @ Jess
you're not even trying anymore
you're not even trying anymore
I was hoping that was a typo much like many other things she writesHika wrote:
Actually, why are you saying it's dead when we had a ton of content @ Jess
you're not even trying anymore
I'm *pretty* sure a policy lynch on Jess is an alright move for us today. I'm tired of her not talking.
Vote: -[Jess]-
Sorry for my inactivity earlier, was busy with a job talk.
Vote: -[Jess]-
Sorry for my inactivity earlier, was busy with a job talk.
Still feel uncomfortable voting on Jesse due to the lack of info. I am staying on Frostings unless I get evidence that is as good or better than what I got for him.
Also it kinda feels weird that nobody questioned my vote in him. Can somebody at least point out if I have any faults in my reasoning?
Also it kinda feels weird that nobody questioned my vote in him. Can somebody at least point out if I have any faults in my reasoning?
Because everyone won't listen of my word,they just want to get a "safe lynch" for me and help scum to lynch a townHika wrote:
Actually, why are you saying it's dead when we had a ton of content @ Jess
you're not even trying anymore
Two of people voted reason is because my vote in D1 make them think it is a scum move and My action in past make them think they should PL Jess again is a right move.they just saying whom player are scum for them and still want to vote me.Just why would you think it's is a right move to lynch a town player?why don't you vote the one that you think it is more scummy than me?
I had to read this twice to full understand.-[Jess]- wrote:
Because everyone won't listen of my word,they just want to get a "safe lynch" for me and help scum to lynch a town
Two of people voted reason is because my vote in D1 make them think it is a scum move and My action in past make them think they should PL Jess again is a right move.they just saying whom player are scum for them and still want to vote me.Just why would you think it's is a right move to lynch a town player?why don't you vote the one that you think it is more scummy than me?
Because:
a) You're not contributing at all. We are listening, and we want to listen to you, but it just seems like you have nothing constructive to say.
b) You hammered without even talking to anyone about this (I know you posted a few hours earlier you're gonna hammer if nobody else does)
c) The reason people vote you over the people they find scummy is to (quoting Frostings here) "save us a headache later". The behavior from b) is an outright scum move or a vanillia idiot one. So even if you actually do flip town, it's at least going to make the game progress instead of stagnating like it's happening right now. But I guess it's not just because of you, but because of bboy's inactivity.
My reads are not as clear as I want them to be, that's why my vote sits on you.
I would say something, but rEdo's pretty much said what i wanted to say.
Only thing to add is Jess you keep saying PL this, PL that, you made something scum would do, and are doing something scum does (lots of words, zero contribution, just being self preserving, not scumhunting). In your eyes, why should I believe you're town when you've been acting like scum does? from my PoV you have higher chance of flipping scum than town.
Only thing to add is Jess you keep saying PL this, PL that, you made something scum would do, and are doing something scum does (lots of words, zero contribution, just being self preserving, not scumhunting). In your eyes, why should I believe you're town when you've been acting like scum does? from my PoV you have higher chance of flipping scum than town.
So that all my fault for not contribute enough ,I can understand that why it's all happen to me and since I am very terrible at say out of my thoughts
vote:Jess If you want to
vote:Jess If you want to
...well you're not gonna do yourself any favours by self-voting and sulking (or town, for that matter). Jess, maybe you should consider that if you made more of an effort to improve your gameplay you wouldn't always end up in situations like this in the first place.
Zexion wrote:
@Sakura, beeboy: do you consider a 24h day extention neccesary?
I'll post tonight once I can put time into this game without worrying about needing to do anything else.
I should have posted last night but I forgot oops?
No hammer until I am back pls.
What's funny is that while that is a self-vote related topic some of the things pointed out such as:
Can apply pretty much to most of what Jess does.Thor665 wrote:
Why should I be allowed to get away with that? Why should town need to try to sort out whether someone is a derp town or a vile scum just due to a single vote?
I ain't hammering that due to wanting to hear bboy.
Afterward, we can hammer her because sulking ain't gonna save your "town" behind at the end of the day.
Afterward, we can hammer her because sulking ain't gonna save your "town" behind at the end of the day.
Jess, why...-[Jess]- wrote:
So that all my fault for not contribute enough ,I can understand that why it's all happen to me and since I am very terrible at say out of my thoughts
vote:Jess If you want to
Either you are a scum who now sees no way out
Or you are the second most unfortunate and extremely stupid townie
Dawnsday, I assume.
Jess takes the cake because she hammered him without explanantion, actually.
Sorry for getting emotional
unvote
unvote
Btw i'd still advise against putting Jess at L-1, she can self-hammer to cut off discussion before we hear from bee.
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Votecount 2.7
-[Jess]- [3] - Sakura, B1rd, rEdo (L-2)
Frostings [1] - abraker
rEdo [0] -
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Frostings, beeboy123, Hika, -[Jess]-
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
-[Jess]- [3] - Sakura, B1rd, rEdo (L-2)
Frostings [1] - abraker
rEdo [0] -
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Frostings, beeboy123, Hika, -[Jess]-
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline for Day 2 has been extended by 24 hours!
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Because you would have been CC'd by now if you were scum. A bullet proof has no reason to not CC and I don't think a doc would value there action over lynching conf scum.rEdo wrote:
Beeboy, explain why do you think I'm conftown. Tell me who's scum.
I said I wasn't a mason 16 posts into the game so I didn't really do what you were saying at all.B1rd wrote:
Firstly, I think beeboy is suspicious. The first reason maybe isn't objective but it's been a personal tell of mine that have achieved results in the past: everyone usually jokes at the start, but when someone continues a jokes past its worth, or continues to act not serious, that is an indicator that that person is scum. And that's what he did with the whole 'I'm mason' thing. The other reason is that he pretty much was a fence sitter the whole first day, and the second day he hasn't done much except jump on bandwagons of already suspicious people. This seems like typical scummy behaviour.
I mean I am pretty sure I said Dawnsday was town all of day 1 so I am not exactly sure what I fence sat on.
And all I have done this day phase was the vote counter claim and ask people questions. I don't see how voting a counter claim is scummy and I don't know why you are referring to bandwagons as a plural when I haven't voted anyone else.
Like literally nothing you said is true.
I'd vote Jess for this considering she declared intent to hammer earlier so idk why she would suddenly think Dawnsday is at L-2.-[Jess]- wrote:
About "now I see why dawn is scum"
It means nothing that he trust a people who only said and read it as town,I don't know how to said and my mind is unclear.I thought he was in L-2 so I voted to push him.
That all
This is against the rules.B1rd wrote:
I'm wondering why beeboy suddenly VL/A'd right after Sakura in exactly the same way, it could just be a coincidence but it could also him buying himself time to think of way to get out of the heat he's in.
Uh anyway I kinda suck at catching up I think that was everything directed at me?
Anyway I'll post my reads in a bit.
Anyway I'll post my reads in a bit.
Hika - could be scum. I don't get the whole obbession with not wanting to be copped. The only time I have actually seen this happen with a town player before was when that player was a commuter and didn't want to claim ascetic cause they thought they could block a NK.
Sakura - I am pretty sure Sakura is town here. Pretty sure she would be more apathetic if she was scum in this game after a decently sized break from mafia. And as scum I find her reads to feel more like attempts at pushing people and doing things (like her read on me in musical mafia in that 1/2 day before she replaced out) rather then actual attempts at solving the game.
abraker - I don't think abraker is actually trying to push people for someone with such a high volume of posts. It is a scum tell for me when people have such a high volume of posts without ever really pushing people or changing the pace of the game. so he could also be scum.
-[Jess]- - I literally don't understand how Jess would think Dawnsday wasn't at L-1 when she declared intent on an earlier page.
Frostings - I think Frosting defending Hika isn't something scum would do, it's a defense that I'd imagine would bring on more questions and attention he wouldn't want. He is also generating content and moving the game forward so he is prolly town.
B1rd - I think B1rd's attempts of solving the game and the fact he is push me in general to develop his read is pretty town but I also think his read on me is total garbage which evens that out.
Sakura - I am pretty sure Sakura is town here. Pretty sure she would be more apathetic if she was scum in this game after a decently sized break from mafia. And as scum I find her reads to feel more like attempts at pushing people and doing things (like her read on me in musical mafia in that 1/2 day before she replaced out) rather then actual attempts at solving the game.
abraker - I don't think abraker is actually trying to push people for someone with such a high volume of posts. It is a scum tell for me when people have such a high volume of posts without ever really pushing people or changing the pace of the game. so he could also be scum.
-[Jess]- - I literally don't understand how Jess would think Dawnsday wasn't at L-1 when she declared intent on an earlier page.
Frostings - I think Frosting defending Hika isn't something scum would do, it's a defense that I'd imagine would bring on more questions and attention he wouldn't want. He is also generating content and moving the game forward so he is prolly town.
B1rd - I think B1rd's attempts of solving the game and the fact he is push me in general to develop his read is pretty town but I also think his read on me is total garbage which evens that out.
I'll vote Jess if no one has any problems in a decent chunk of hours. (like tomorrow morning
nice try
also my thoughts didn't change even after bboy' post sadly. So we're gonna wait until D3.
Still waitingHika wrote:
Also heads up, I'll have a list of reads when I get more posts from bboy.
yeah you can wait I'm at work
Buuuut for now I'm gonna say scum team is probably you and frosty
And btw I will have a better confirmation on that day 3
lol called it.Sakura wrote:
what's with the sudden OMGUS threat? Am I also going to suddenly turn to scummy for you as well? :^)Hika wrote:
Keep pushing me as not town and I might have to vote you because you'll just suddenly turn to scummy for me :^)
stuff happens
I'm not gonna read/reply to everything at this point in time, but I've read every rule, and there is nothing that remotely pertains to this.beeboy123 wrote:
This is against the rules.B1rd wrote:
I'm wondering why beeboy suddenly VL/A'd right after Sakura in exactly the same way, it could just be a coincidence but it could also him buying himself time to think of way to get out of the heat he's in.
4.9 I'd be loopholing the prod system by abusing VLA.
Faking V/LA is against the rules yes. bee wouldnt do something like that.
lol wtf where did this come fromHika wrote:
Buuuut for now I'm gonna say scum team is probably you and frosty
Beeboy reads as town for me. Idk why a scum would want to fake a role to be questioned throughout the game later. That will be a handicap from the start. Also dawn claimed the fake role and turned town, so I can believe Beeboy is town despite the fake claim.
I always fear that scum can be good at acting. I tend to ignore statements "scum wouldn't do x" or "x is not something scum would do" because of this.
I always fear that scum can be good at acting. I tend to ignore statements "scum wouldn't do x" or "x is not something scum would do" because of this.