B1rd would disagreeFrostings wrote:
I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
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nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
keep it in mind
Pending proof from previous mafia gamesHika wrote:
nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
Eh i dunno, i've seen scum do a lot of work to look town, Prolly not a newbie, but I'll reserve my judgement for when i see what conclusions he gets from the data.Frostings wrote:
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I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
You can wait until I bother getting on a computer. @ab
Granted i've never seen scum focus so much effort towards looking town on osu! #SiteMeta ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But so far all abraker has is IIoA until he does something with it
But so far all abraker has is IIoA until he does something with it
Also frostings I'm disappointed you're seriously using trivial reasons for someone being town.
He always makes flowcharts. Don't let your guard down against abraker, he's pretty deadly in that he has the same sort of robot-like methodology whether he's town or scum.
But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
Oh wait I forgot. Why the shit would me and Dawn both be suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
Isn't that exactly why.Hika wrote:
Oh wait I forgot. Why the shit would me and Dawn both be suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
Although probably for different reasons than frosty.
Speaking of reads and pushes, do you have any other scumreads?
Ok nvm i misread something.
Regardless i dont see it impossible for this to be a bus, but slightly unlikely.
And that's even if Dawn flips scum.
Dunno why you not being the hammer vote would excempt you from being scum if Dawn flips town, nor why you not pushing it hard would also excempt you when literally almost everyone and their mother is scumreading him.
Regardless i dont see it impossible for this to be a bus, but slightly unlikely.
And that's even if Dawn flips scum.
Dunno why you not being the hammer vote would excempt you from being scum if Dawn flips town, nor why you not pushing it hard would also excempt you when literally almost everyone and their mother is scumreading him.
it's just weird how frostings always, by default, reads me as scum.
And I'm not being funny, it's just weird.
And I'm not being funny, it's just weird.
Also, I'm going to bed, compiling my reads 2morro around 8pm EST
Oh I'm sorry I meant adding to that in terms of quick hammer but it doesn't apply here so I'm not sure why I even said that last part
But my post about frostings mean smth.
But my post about frostings mean smth.
Going to bed. Will be around 7pm EST
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him
B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read
Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.
Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.
rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.
I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him
B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read
Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.
Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.
rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.
I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.
clear up my mind now
He acts in the RVS stage cause this end quickly by claiming mason.
so I read him to null-scum.
Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town
I never want to hammer Dawn since I don't hammer it after I awake since I feel uneasy about voting him
I just want to look at his defend of those scummy posts.
but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@everyone Why none of you guy think Dawn maybe is town?
I never said that He is town.Why this lead you think?abraker wrote:
-[Jess]-, why is Beeboy123 a townie?
He acts in the RVS stage cause this end quickly by claiming mason.
so I read him to null-scum.
Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town
Call me Jess.I live in GMT+8 and have lot of RL workabraker wrote:
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
I never want to hammer Dawn since I don't hammer it after I awake since I feel uneasy about voting him
I just want to look at his defend of those scummy posts.
but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@everyone Why none of you guy think Dawn maybe is town?
Read:
town(almost):abraker,Frosty
nulltown:b1rd,redo
null:Sakura,Hika
town(almost):abraker,Frosty
nulltown:b1rd,redo
null:Sakura,Hika
Alright I slept 14 hours and now I'm having a bath. I will catch up sufficiently when I'm back, I did have a sneak peek and L-Number simply means that Lynch minus number abraker, I know this because I've had a quick dig around mafiascum forums to see what potential other roles are in this game. Me knowing terminology isn't that far fetched.
Anyway moving Jess to nulltown based off of these posts.
Anyway moving Jess to nulltown based off of these posts.
OH OKAY JESS MAKES ONE POST AND SHES NULL TOWN
AH OKAY
AH OKAY
Dawnsday there is literally 0 town incentive in not explaining why you think Hika is scum. (unless I you did it already and I missed it)
I've got work. I'll be back.
Now I know why draw is scum
vote:draw
vote:Dawnsday
Alright I'm back and yea I see the flaw here. However hear me out just a sec, Jess has been afk for quite some time, It'd be easier for her to come back, jump the wagon (As I WAS back down to L-2) and claim "yeah i see reasoning here" and just hop back to AFK again. I'm not claiming nulltown because of her read on me, being open to suggestion is quite easily just counter to beeboy's claim of "No opposition d1 lynch lul". I'm claiming her nulltown because of motive.
Yeah do what you will. I'm just going to claim Townie Investigative. There is 2 possible townie investigatives. Anyway if by some miracle I survive tonight I doubt maf will hit me, I'm basically doing their work for them rofl. If we have a townie protective buddy I'd say hit beeboy. He's being the voice of reason here.
Anyway yea cool
Yeah do what you will. I'm just going to claim Townie Investigative. There is 2 possible townie investigatives. Anyway if by some miracle I survive tonight I doubt maf will hit me, I'm basically doing their work for them rofl. If we have a townie protective buddy I'd say hit beeboy. He's being the voice of reason here.
Anyway yea cool
However if I DO live to tonight (lmfao not happening) if there's a maf roleblocker their smart play would be to hit me as I've claimed TI, I can confirm in the morning if I did get roleblocked.
My survivalism was down to me being TI and having a hunch. Now that my hunch is beyond obvious, yehaj. This one's down to town.
My survivalism was down to me being TI and having a hunch. Now that my hunch is beyond obvious, yehaj. This one's down to town.
God dammit Jess, that was L-1
OOp nvm looks like thats was L-1, anyway I've had a great deal of emotional stress over the past few days and haven't really been able to focus on this game at all. Good luck to Town.
*waves flag*.
Anyway, told ya I was going to option with the most favorable town outcomes, also is it THAT hard to wait till I'm out of my bath to explain my reasoning.
*waves flag*.
Anyway, told ya I was going to option with the most favorable town outcomes, also is it THAT hard to wait till I'm out of my bath to explain my reasoning.
Yep, I think you're done for. But what do you mean by Townie Investigator? It's not a role I know of and it doesn't seem to be on the list...
I never had you voted in the first place.
Townie Investigator covers all the roles capable of investigating players at night and gaining info (This term comes from Salem which is again, as I have stated. What i have been playing recently.)
I'm going to flip Townie Tracker, I was going to be on Hika or rEdo n1.
Townie Protective is obviously doctor.
I'm going to flip Townie Tracker, I was going to be on Hika or rEdo n1.
Townie Protective is obviously doctor.
@MOD: Can you do an accurate vote count to make sure dawn didn't get rekt
Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.
And if Bird didn't vote you then you're still not lynched.
Otherwise, jess is getting fucked your D2
Otherwise, jess is getting fucked your D2
Fucked up***
B1rd didn't vote me, take him as town. imo. All his posts have given me Townie agenda vibes
Also Frostings never answered why he thought I wasn't new so there's that to work with too. Praying there's a second TI. Who would also be the stronger of both TI roles
Oh, bird has always been town to me. I don't see how he couldn't be
There's hasn't been any unvotes that I can see since the last vote count where Dawnsday was at L-1, so he's is pretty much confirmed lynched at this point.
To be fair, I said I would have voted you but I didn't because it was L-1. Since it seems you're town, sorry for the mislynch, even if it was partly your fault. Well, now you know at least not to make the same mistakes in the future.Dawnsday wrote:
B1rd didn't vote me, take him as town. imo. All his posts have given me Townie agenda vibes
lol, I'm not gonna complain about a townread, but I'm not sure how you can feel so strongly, I don't think you can just rule anyone out so early in the game.Hika wrote:
Oh, bird has always been town to me. I don't see how he couldn't be
"partly" no it was all my fault and I am sorry to town. Emotional stress tilted me irl and I fully take my own blame, even if I made true claims it is still my fault.
@bird
just check out your first few posts and try to argue to me why you wouldn't be.
it's not as bad as dawn townreading jess after one post lol
just check out your first few posts and try to argue to me why you wouldn't be.
it's not as bad as dawn townreading jess after one post lol
I'm not sure really, my first post was pretty much a joke, but it seems whenever I joke people make all sorts of wild implication from them.
@Dawnsday may you find more peace in the next life
Talking about implications, I'm sure there are plenty to be made from this lynch, though I guess I'll wait to the next day to theorise. Honestly with this game, trying to figure out the implications of all the posts and possible scenarios just makes my thoughts go off on tangents and get convoluted and confusing.
@Dawnsday may you find more peace in the next life
Talking about implications, I'm sure there are plenty to be made from this lynch, though I guess I'll wait to the next day to theorise. Honestly with this game, trying to figure out the implications of all the posts and possible scenarios just makes my thoughts go off on tangents and get convoluted and confusing.
Anyway making use of this twilight.
Thanks B1rd, I'm sure I will.
Hika is easiest to confirm as VT
B1rd I'm assuming is town. Could be a 4D chess player since I know he's a Trump fan :^
Sakura is just straight up confusing to get a solid read on. N/A for my guess. Still null here.
Jess, ...
rEdo, unusually quiet :d
Frostings, motivations seem all over the place.
beeboy, I'm still convinced this is town. TP on him, if you're doubtful I understand :p
abraker, parked on me over my avatar (it is evil tho so yea I get that.) Still confused over his
Anyway, D2 someone draw up EVERY players communication with EVERY other player. I feel there may be discrepancies here. Put in some context too.
Thanks B1rd, I'm sure I will.
Hika is easiest to confirm as VT
B1rd I'm assuming is town. Could be a 4D chess player since I know he's a Trump fan :^
Sakura is just straight up confusing to get a solid read on. N/A for my guess. Still null here.
Jess, ...
rEdo, unusually quiet :d
Frostings, motivations seem all over the place.
beeboy, I'm still convinced this is town. TP on him, if you're doubtful I understand :p
abraker, parked on me over my avatar (it is evil tho so yea I get that.) Still confused over his
No need to try defending yourself. It will only bring suffering.but hey I guess he was right.
Anyway, D2 someone draw up EVERY players communication with EVERY other player. I feel there may be discrepancies here. Put in some context too.
wtf Jesse. WHY
Jesse didn't even stop to consider we were still deciding.
Dude just saying you know why is not enough. You got some explaining to do is Dawn turns out townie. And even more explaininh if I end up dead overnight.
Jesse didn't even stop to consider we were still deciding.
Dude just saying you know why is not enough. You got some explaining to do is Dawn turns out townie. And even more explaininh if I end up dead overnight.
That or Jesse is dumber than. dawnsday and didn't even look at backlog
Lol I will turn townie. I'm townie tracker.
But yea Jess just says "i know why" hits the hammer and yea im donezo. I think this is either blatant maf or town got very unlucky by having 2 very dumb people be townie
But yea Jess just says "i know why" hits the hammer and yea im donezo. I think this is either blatant maf or town got very unlucky by having 2 very dumb people be townie
don't forgetabraker wrote:
Pending proof from previous mafia gamesHika wrote:
nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
Haven't forgotten, I read ISOs daily
just cbf to get on my laptop at work
just cbf to get on my laptop at work
Now that Jesse answered, I can tellB1rd wrote:
But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
The first post I threw out is an attempt to move Sakura towards a side by requesting an explanation on why Dawnsday is scum. I got a neutral answer and concluded that Sakura will need to be pressured to vote on D2 whether it will be a bad or good thing to show more contrast. Just giving townreads might be just one side of Sakura 's story.
The second post I threw out is questioning Jesse why Beeboy is townie. Now this is an attack from two sides and I did get the reaction I was expecting but also got something I did not expect. First, like Sakura I pressured Jesse to shift towards a side. Spark some movement. Second, Beeboy appears on most town reads, which is kinda suspicious if you ask me. Finally, and the most intriguing thing, there were people defending that they never read Beeboy as townie which might say something in that regard.
I still need to make sense of the results, but now I got some tasty flavors to work with
I'm also waiting on a response from rEdo about Sakura, and I'm waiting for Sakura to respond to a post in which I implicated her, which she seemed not to bother to respond to for some reason. Also Hika, maybe you can elaborate on how she is acting different from usual this game.
For some reason rEdo hasn't been on for 45 hours, I assume rEdo has RL stuff but that's still pretty poor form. And about jess, that's a bit of headache... I think we can deal with that next the next day.
For some reason rEdo hasn't been on for 45 hours, I assume rEdo has RL stuff but that's still pretty poor form. And about jess, that's a bit of headache... I think we can deal with that next the next day.
This a game to find the truth you knucklehead-[Jess]- wrote:
Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is townabraker wrote:
you can a learn a thing or two from cumulative town reads. Now why do you want to know who is thinking who is scum or not?
The scumread of D1 was Dawnsday. Why to ask for anything else is beyond me, especially since you unconditionally agreed in you most recent posts
OMFG WTF JESS D2 MY VOTE IS GOING TO YOU AND IS NEVER MOVING.
I'm not sure what post you're referring to, all I remember is you asking rEdo about me playing different than usual.B1rd wrote:
I'm also waiting on a response from rEdo about Sakura, and I'm waiting for Sakura to respond to a post in which I implicated her, which she seemed not to bother to respond to for some reason. Also Hika, maybe you can elaborate on how she is acting different from usual this game.
For some reason rEdo hasn't been on for 45 hours, I assume rEdo has RL stuff but that's still pretty poor form. And about jess, that's a bit of headache... I think we can deal with that next the next day.
I don't know if you want my MS Alt meta or what, but sure i can provide that, im just not sure if you're interested on meta diving that or not:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist.p ... le&u=26607
http://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist.p ... le&u=26607
Oh this.B1rd wrote:
There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.
@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?
Yeah well i got that a lot on the alt, but everyone got used to my new playstyle there.
Someone even called it Reverse scumhunting lol.
I mean she did declare intent pages ago to be fair or do you have other reasons to think she is scum?Sakura wrote:
OMFG WTF JESS D2 MY VOTE IS GOING TO YOU AND IS NEVER MOVING.
Except she said she didnt want to hammer him Oo
what do you mean by this Jess o3o-[Jess]- wrote:
Now I know why draw is scum
Topic Starter
Do you mean my votecounts are unreliable?Hika wrote:
@MOD: Can you do an accurate vote count to make sure dawn didn't get rekt
(Anyways, I did a double check to be sure)
Huh? They already decided?!
Votecount 1.4 (D1 Final)
Dawnsday [5] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, -[Jess]- (LYNCH)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Dawnsday, Sakura, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Dawnsday [5] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, -[Jess]- (LYNCH)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Dawnsday, Sakura, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
A lynch has been achieved. Scene coming soon.
^ you're amazing tbh
Topic Starter
The town decided Dawnsday was guilty for defending himself, and was quickly lynched. He did seem shady anyways - he always followed people and was fantastic at not being noticed, but he actually used his abilities for good.
The town seemed satisfied anyways. The broke up the meeting and went to see the poor mayor.
But it didn't seem this was over.
Dawnsday, Town Tracker, was lynched Day 1.
It is now Night 1. It ends 48 hours after this post, that is, February 15th, 10:00 PM UTC.
All actions are due to my inbox until that timeline.
The town seemed satisfied anyways. The broke up the meeting and went to see the poor mayor.
But it didn't seem this was over.
Dawnsday, Town Tracker, was lynched Day 1.
It is now Night 1. It ends 48 hours after this post, that is, February 15th, 10:00 PM UTC.
All actions are due to my inbox until that timeline.
Topic Starter
Sidenote: I know the ruleset says 36 hours for night, however due to the real life (work) I am unable to end the night at such hour. That's why the deadline is 48 hours, as 24 would be too short. Thanks for your understanding.
Topic Starter
"As day came, a person was missing from the town meeting. A body was found in the middle of the streets....
No wait, that's the book I'm reading. Everyone is pretty much fine and accounted for this day's meeting... well.. except Dawnday.
Was the bomb thing a prank? People didn't think so, as the mayor was still seriously injured, and were looking already for others culprits."
No one died Night 1.
It is now Day 2. It ends 8 days after this post, that is, Thursday, February 23th, 10:00 PM UTC.
No wait, that's the book I'm reading. Everyone is pretty much fine and accounted for this day's meeting... well.. except Dawnday.
Was the bomb thing a prank? People didn't think so, as the mayor was still seriously injured, and were looking already for others culprits."
No one died Night 1.
It is now Day 2. It ends 8 days after this post, that is, Thursday, February 23th, 10:00 PM UTC.
Votecount 2.0 (Day 2 Start)
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [8] - Hika, Sakura, -[Jess]-, abraker , Frostings , B1rd, beeboy123, rEdo
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [8] - Hika, Sakura, -[Jess]-, abraker , Frostings , B1rd, beeboy123, rEdo
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
mafia tried to get bulletproof townie?
Dear God why all the RETARDED stuff happens when I have other things in mind...
Claim: 1-Shot Bulletproof
Proper post in a second.
Claim: 1-Shot Bulletproof
Proper post in a second.
Makes me curious why the mafia didn't bother with you then...Hika wrote:
Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.
Alright. This is a highly subjective thing, but I would like to address it here and now.
I also start to question beeboy's alignment due to him getting too silent when the lynch occured. But hey, the same argument applies to me then xd
Jess, why did you hammer Dawnsday. Just what the fuck, we weren't even done with discussion. If I had been on the forum the moment you said you're gonna hammer, or at least hours after that, I would unvote >_> Don't take it too personally, but why do you even bother signing up to these games if you're not even reading what we're doing here?
I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.abraker wrote:
Going to bed. Will be around 7pm EST
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him
B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read
Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.
Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.
rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.
I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.
I also start to question beeboy's alignment due to him getting too silent when the lynch occured. But hey, the same argument applies to me then xd
Jess, why did you hammer Dawnsday. Just what the fuck, we weren't even done with discussion. If I had been on the forum the moment you said you're gonna hammer, or at least hours after that, I would unvote >_> Don't take it too personally, but why do you even bother signing up to these games if you're not even reading what we're doing here?
Reading Jess as scum doesn't count to me. She's playing terrible both as town and as scum.rEdo wrote:
I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.
I didn't point anyone else as town either. There are a handful of people here I can't read. However, I shouldn't make up excuses for Hika and Beeboy. I need to look over their data asap. Also Hika's response to my previous statement will be importantrEdo wrote:
Reading Jess as scum doesn't count to me. She's playing terrible both as town and as scum.rEdo wrote:
I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.
Also I didn't read Jesse as scum but only provoked the thought. I don't give readings unless I have evidence to back things up
Because they're not gonna waste their breath on me.abraker wrote:
Makes me curious why the mafia didn't bother with you then...Hika wrote:
Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.
They're just causing WIFOM because I can't get anyone to check me.
If there is an investigative role, please crumb.
Crumb cleverly if you can, at least.
Is that an official claim though?
Scum is good at framing people right now. This isn't anything new. If someone you thought was scum didn't end up getting NK'd, then your first suspicion is because I'm scum and your second thought would be, since I claimed my role, I should've died first.
No. Scum believes my claim at least 75%. Had I been an important role, I wouldn't have fake claimed and taken the risk for claiming.
Scum doesn't want to kill a VT unless they are swaying town to a proper day lynch. They will simply take me last or just hope you all lynch me out.
No. Scum believes my claim at least 75%. Had I been an important role, I wouldn't have fake claimed and taken the risk for claiming.
Scum doesn't want to kill a VT unless they are swaying town to a proper day lynch. They will simply take me last or just hope you all lynch me out.
As i said to bee yesterday, she said the opposite of wanting to hammer, then just came and said "now i see why dawn's scum" and hammered without declaring any sort of intent.rEdo wrote:
Jess, why did you hammer Dawnsday. Just what the fuck, we weren't even done with discussion. If I had been on the forum the moment you said you're gonna hammer, or at least hours after that, I would unvote >_> Don't take it too personally, but why do you even bother signing up to these games if you're not even reading what we're doing here?
Vote: Jess
Claim: VT
bold is the only way to be official apparently.
bold is the only way to be official apparently.
Sakura wtf
I'm live on a computer in a approximately 2 hours max.abraker wrote:
Pending proof from previous mafia gamesHika wrote:
nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
I'll answer this for you shortly.
Mind you, the not voting thing is a 50% thing.
Also:
Only possible setups atm are 3 and C, if rEdo's telling the truth then we're on C, Hika that claim came out of nowhere.
I'm not sure why abraker was so sure that a 1-shot BP was hit, since it's also possible that Doctor protection was hit.
Only possible setups atm are 3 and C, if rEdo's telling the truth then we're on C, Hika that claim came out of nowhere.
I'm not sure why abraker was so sure that a 1-shot BP was hit, since it's also possible that Doctor protection was hit.
This came out before rEdo's claim.abraker wrote:
mafia tried to get bulletproof townie?
He has to be lying. There's no way he's bulletproof.
Vote:redo
Now this.abraker wrote:
Makes me curious why the mafia didn't bother with you then...Hika wrote:
Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.
Assuming Hika's telling the truth the way for mafia to hit a Town PR, a normal mafia would be looking for a town doctor to shoot, since they wouldnt know which of the 2 cases it is considering they wouldn't have a roleblocker in either of the 2, if anything they WOULD be aiming away from Hika, unless they want to get rid of threat in non PR forms, in which case Hika's claim would be irrelevant.
I take that is a CC?
Yes. I WILL CC THIS ALL MY LIFE.
There is no way he's bulletproof unless Zexion is fucking us up.
There is no way he's bulletproof unless Zexion is fucking us up.
Unvote
There's some things i need to parse in my mind first, as of yesterday's lynch i had a TR on rEdo, and wasnt reading Hika as town, a town BP generally doesnt claim out of the gate when shot by scum unless they are about to be lynched, since scum doesnt know if they hit BP or Doctor a BP not claiming will force scum to keep PR hunting or worst case scenario shoot again.
But that day opening idk, abraker opening with "Scum shot BP?" with then rEdo claiming "i'm BP" and then abraker going "i wonder why scum didnt bother with claimed VT then".
All these things are bothering me, and will need further inquiry.
@B1rd: how experienced is abraker at mafia (the general game, not the alignment)?
There's some things i need to parse in my mind first, as of yesterday's lynch i had a TR on rEdo, and wasnt reading Hika as town, a town BP generally doesnt claim out of the gate when shot by scum unless they are about to be lynched, since scum doesnt know if they hit BP or Doctor a BP not claiming will force scum to keep PR hunting or worst case scenario shoot again.
But that day opening idk, abraker opening with "Scum shot BP?" with then rEdo claiming "i'm BP" and then abraker going "i wonder why scum didnt bother with claimed VT then".
All these things are bothering me, and will need further inquiry.
@B1rd: how experienced is abraker at mafia (the general game, not the alignment)?
Besides, I claimed myself D1 because people still wanted to push my wagon.
That's two scumreads for me.
Ok so he's confscum unless he flips town, in which case you're confscum.Hika wrote:
Yes. I WILL CC THIS ALL MY LIFE.
There is no way he's bulletproof unless Zexion is fucking us up.
So i'll put that in the back burner for now and will try to figure out what's with abraker's posts at the start of the day and wont vote yet coz i dont want any more funny hammers from certain Jesses
Sakura you're my townread.
because you voted Jess.
because you voted Jess.
I think this suspicion with abraker is valid because his graphs and stuff are very fluffy. He's going to generate attention to him, negative or positive, so abraker you should probably fix your game play
in an honest, hypothetical way.
Sakura, so far what are your estimations on who is town.
Because it can either be town-scum or town-town.
And I don't wanna vote redo now after reading first page a few times.
Sakura, so far what are your estimations on who is town.
Because it can either be town-scum or town-town.
And I don't wanna vote redo now after reading first page a few times.
Topic Starter
"Isn't that time of the day when you start posting random stuff?"
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Votecount 2.1
rEdo [1] - Hika
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [7] - Sakura, -[Jess]-, abraker , Frostings , B1rd, beeboy123, rEdo
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
rEdo [1] - Hika
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [7] - Sakura, -[Jess]-, abraker , Frostings , B1rd, beeboy123, rEdo
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
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I'm sorry. I'm stupid. I'm still town :p
Currently im thinking the team might just be rEdo + abraker.Hika wrote:
in an honest, hypothetical way.
Sakura, so far what are your estimations on who is town.
Because it can either be town-scum or town-town.
And I don't wanna vote redo now after reading first page a few times.
abraker's Day 1 was a lot of IIoA, and his entrance today felt coordinated with rEdo to say the least.
i had a townread on rEdo at the end of day 1, which makes me go more wtf with that claim.
I'm fairly certain on my townreads on bee and frosty, then i have a townread on B1rd.
I'm not in favor of not punishing what Jess did coz otherwise she wouldn't learn, but if the above is the team then why the hell waste more time.
Whether you're town or not depends a lot on what rEdo flips, but... do you think rEdo's motivations were something else (i.e fake claiming as Town) and abraker just happened to be on the wrong place at the wrong time with his words?
Oh I'm sorry, I meant in reference with M6 setup between redo and I.
I never looked this deep into the setup of M6 and currently am confused with it.
So there can only be one scum between me and him or can we both flip town together?
I never looked this deep into the setup of M6 and currently am confused with it.
So there can only be one scum between me and him or can we both flip town together?