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Newbie Game 15: Rise From The Ashes [Game over!]

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Dawns
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Dawns
Alright I slept 14 hours and now I'm having a bath. I will catch up sufficiently when I'm back, I did have a sneak peek and L-Number simply means that Lynch minus number abraker, I know this because I've had a quick dig around mafiascum forums to see what potential other roles are in this game. Me knowing terminology isn't that far fetched.

Anyway moving Jess to nulltown based off of these posts.
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
OH OKAY JESS MAKES ONE POST AND SHES NULL TOWN

AH OKAY
beeboy123
183 posts
Joined June 2013
beeboy123
Dawnsday there is literally 0 town incentive in not explaining why you think Hika is scum. (unless I you did it already and I missed it)
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
I've got work. I'll be back.
-[Jess]-
1,086 posts
Joined March 2014
-[Jess]-
Now I know why draw is scum
-[Jess]-
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Joined March 2014
-[Jess]-
vote:draw
-[Jess]-
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Joined March 2014
-[Jess]-
vote:Dawnsday
Dawns
215 posts
Joined July 2014
Dawns
Alright I'm back and yea I see the flaw here. However hear me out just a sec, Jess has been afk for quite some time, It'd be easier for her to come back, jump the wagon (As I WAS back down to L-2) and claim "yeah i see reasoning here" and just hop back to AFK again. I'm not claiming nulltown because of her read on me, being open to suggestion is quite easily just counter to beeboy's claim of "No opposition d1 lynch lul". I'm claiming her nulltown because of motive.

Yeah do what you will. I'm just going to claim Townie Investigative. There is 2 possible townie investigatives. Anyway if by some miracle I survive tonight I doubt maf will hit me, I'm basically doing their work for them rofl. If we have a townie protective buddy I'd say hit beeboy. He's being the voice of reason here.

Anyway yea cool
Dawns
215 posts
Joined July 2014
Dawns
However if I DO live to tonight (lmfao not happening) if there's a maf roleblocker their smart play would be to hit me as I've claimed TI, I can confirm in the morning if I did get roleblocked.

My survivalism was down to me being TI and having a hunch. Now that my hunch is beyond obvious, yehaj. This one's down to town.
Hika
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Joined February 2010
Hika
God dammit Jess, that was L-1
beeboy123
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Joined June 2013
beeboy123
Welp
Dawns
215 posts
Joined July 2014
Dawns
Oh was that L-1? I was pretty sure B1rd unvoted.
Dawns
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Joined July 2014
Dawns
OOp nvm looks like thats was L-1, anyway I've had a great deal of emotional stress over the past few days and haven't really been able to focus on this game at all. Good luck to Town.

*waves flag*.

Anyway, told ya I was going to option with the most favorable town outcomes, also is it THAT hard to wait till I'm out of my bath to explain my reasoning.
B1rd
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B1rd
Yep, I think you're done for. But what do you mean by Townie Investigator? It's not a role I know of and it doesn't seem to be on the list...
B1rd
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B1rd
I never had you voted in the first place.
Dawns
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Dawns
Townie Investigator covers all the roles capable of investigating players at night and gaining info (This term comes from Salem which is again, as I have stated. What i have been playing recently.)

I'm going to flip Townie Tracker, I was going to be on Hika or rEdo n1.

Townie Protective is obviously doctor.
Hika
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Joined February 2010
Hika
@MOD: Can you do an accurate vote count to make sure dawn didn't get rekt
Dawns
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Dawns
Too late, am rekt.
Hika
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Hika
Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.
Hika
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Hika
And if Bird didn't vote you then you're still not lynched.
Otherwise, jess is getting fucked your D2
Hika
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Hika
Fucked up***
Dawns
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Dawns
B1rd didn't vote me, take him as town. imo. All his posts have given me Townie agenda vibes
Dawns
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Dawns
Also Frostings never answered why he thought I wasn't new so there's that to work with too. Praying there's a second TI. Who would also be the stronger of both TI roles
Hika
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Hika
Oh, bird has always been town to me. I don't see how he couldn't be
B1rd
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B1rd
There's hasn't been any unvotes that I can see since the last vote count where Dawnsday was at L-1, so he's is pretty much confirmed lynched at this point.

Dawnsday wrote:

B1rd didn't vote me, take him as town. imo. All his posts have given me Townie agenda vibes
To be fair, I said I would have voted you but I didn't because it was L-1. Since it seems you're town, sorry for the mislynch, even if it was partly your fault. Well, now you know at least not to make the same mistakes in the future.

Hika wrote:

Oh, bird has always been town to me. I don't see how he couldn't be
lol, I'm not gonna complain about a townread, but I'm not sure how you can feel so strongly, I don't think you can just rule anyone out so early in the game.
Dawns
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Dawns
"partly" no it was all my fault and I am sorry to town. Emotional stress tilted me irl and I fully take my own blame, even if I made true claims it is still my fault.
Hika
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Hika
@bird

just check out your first few posts and try to argue to me why you wouldn't be.
it's not as bad as dawn townreading jess after one post lol
B1rd
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B1rd
I'm not sure really, my first post was pretty much a joke, but it seems whenever I joke people make all sorts of wild implication from them.

@Dawnsday may you find more peace in the next life

Talking about implications, I'm sure there are plenty to be made from this lynch, though I guess I'll wait to the next day to theorise. Honestly with this game, trying to figure out the implications of all the posts and possible scenarios just makes my thoughts go off on tangents and get convoluted and confusing.
Dawns
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Joined July 2014
Dawns
Anyway making use of this twilight.
Thanks B1rd, I'm sure I will.

Hika is easiest to confirm as VT
B1rd I'm assuming is town. Could be a 4D chess player since I know he's a Trump fan :^
Sakura is just straight up confusing to get a solid read on. N/A for my guess. Still null here.
Jess, ...
rEdo, unusually quiet :d
Frostings, motivations seem all over the place.
beeboy, I'm still convinced this is town. TP on him, if you're doubtful I understand :p
abraker, parked on me over my avatar (it is evil tho so yea I get that.) Still confused over his
No need to try defending yourself. It will only bring suffering.
but hey I guess he was right.

Anyway, D2 someone draw up EVERY players communication with EVERY other player. I feel there may be discrepancies here. Put in some context too.
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker
wtf Jesse. WHY

Jesse didn't even stop to consider we were still deciding.

Dude just saying you know why is not enough. You got some explaining to do is Dawn turns out townie. And even more explaininh if I end up dead overnight.
abraker
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abraker
That or Jesse is dumber than. dawnsday and didn't even look at backlog
Dawns
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Dawns
Lol I will turn townie. I'm townie tracker.

But yea Jess just says "i know why" hits the hammer and yea im donezo. I think this is either blatant maf or town got very unlucky by having 2 very dumb people be townie
abraker
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abraker

abraker wrote:

Hika wrote:

nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted

keep it in mind
Pending proof from previous mafia games
don't forget
Hika
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Hika
Haven't forgotten, I read ISOs daily
just cbf to get on my laptop at work
abraker
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abraker

B1rd wrote:

But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
Now that Jesse answered, I can tell

The first post I threw out is an attempt to move Sakura towards a side by requesting an explanation on why Dawnsday is scum. I got a neutral answer and concluded that Sakura will need to be pressured to vote on D2 whether it will be a bad or good thing to show more contrast. Just giving townreads might be just one side of Sakura 's story.

The second post I threw out is questioning Jesse why Beeboy is townie. Now this is an attack from two sides and I did get the reaction I was expecting but also got something I did not expect. First, like Sakura I pressured Jesse to shift towards a side. Spark some movement. Second, Beeboy appears on most town reads, which is kinda suspicious if you ask me. Finally, and the most intriguing thing, there were people defending that they never read Beeboy as townie which might say something in that regard.

I still need to make sense of the results, but now I got some tasty flavors to work with
B1rd
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B1rd
I'm also waiting on a response from rEdo about Sakura, and I'm waiting for Sakura to respond to a post in which I implicated her, which she seemed not to bother to respond to for some reason. Also Hika, maybe you can elaborate on how she is acting different from usual this game.

For some reason rEdo hasn't been on for 45 hours, I assume rEdo has RL stuff but that's still pretty poor form. And about jess, that's a bit of headache... I think we can deal with that next the next day.
abraker
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abraker

-[Jess]- wrote:


Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town

abraker wrote:

This a game to find the truth you knucklehead

you can a learn a thing or two from cumulative town reads. Now why do you want to know who is thinking who is scum or not?

The scumread of D1 was Dawnsday. Why to ask for anything else is beyond me, especially since you unconditionally agreed in you most recent posts
Sakura
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Sakura
OMFG WTF JESS D2 MY VOTE IS GOING TO YOU AND IS NEVER MOVING.
Sakura
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Sakura

B1rd wrote:

I'm also waiting on a response from rEdo about Sakura, and I'm waiting for Sakura to respond to a post in which I implicated her, which she seemed not to bother to respond to for some reason. Also Hika, maybe you can elaborate on how she is acting different from usual this game.

For some reason rEdo hasn't been on for 45 hours, I assume rEdo has RL stuff but that's still pretty poor form. And about jess, that's a bit of headache... I think we can deal with that next the next day.
I'm not sure what post you're referring to, all I remember is you asking rEdo about me playing different than usual.
Sakura
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Sakura
I don't know if you want my MS Alt meta or what, but sure i can provide that, im just not sure if you're interested on meta diving that or not:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist.p ... le&u=26607
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