abraker wrote:

Hika wrote:

nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted

keep it in mind

Pending proof from previous mafia games

B1rd wrote:

But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.

-[Jess]- wrote:

Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town

abraker wrote:

B1rd wrote:

I'm also waiting on a response from rEdo about Sakura, and I'm waiting for Sakura to respond to a post in which I implicated her, which she seemed not to bother to respond to for some reason. Also Hika, maybe you can elaborate on how she is acting different from usual this game.

For some reason rEdo hasn't been on for 45 hours, I assume rEdo has RL stuff but that's still pretty poor form. And about jess, that's a bit of headache... I think we can deal with that next the next day.

B1rd wrote:

There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.

@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?

Sakura wrote:

OMFG WTF JESS D2 MY VOTE IS GOING TO YOU AND IS NEVER MOVING.

-[Jess]- wrote:

Now I know why draw is scum

Hika wrote:

@MOD: Can you do an accurate vote count to make sure dawn didn't get rekt

Do you mean my votecounts are unreliable?

(Anyways, I did a double check to be sure)

Hika wrote:

Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.

abraker wrote:

Going to bed. Will be around 7pm EST

Need -[Jesse]-'s response

So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.

Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him

B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read

Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.

Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.

rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.

I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.

rEdo wrote:

I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.

rEdo wrote:

rEdo wrote:

I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.

Reading Jess as scum doesn't count to me. She's playing terrible both as town and as scum.

abraker wrote:

Hika wrote:

Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.

Makes me curious why the mafia didn't bother with you then...

rEdo wrote:

Jess, why did you hammer Dawnsday. Just what the fuck, we weren't even done with discussion. If I had been on the forum the moment you said you're gonna hammer, or at least hours after that, I would unvote >_> Don't take it too personally, but why do you even bother signing up to these games if you're not even reading what we're doing here?

abraker wrote:

Hika wrote:

nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted

keep it in mind

Pending proof from previous mafia games

abraker wrote:

mafia tried to get bulletproof townie?

abraker wrote:

Hika wrote:

Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.

Makes me curious why the mafia didn't bother with you then...

Hika wrote:

Yes. I WILL CC THIS ALL MY LIFE.

There is no way he's bulletproof unless Zexion is fucking us up.

Hika wrote:

in an honest, hypothetical way.

Sakura, so far what are your estimations on who is town.
Because it can either be town-scum or town-town.

And I don't wanna vote redo now after reading first page a few times.

Hika wrote:

Oh I'm sorry, I meant in reference with M6 setup between redo and I.
I never looked this deep into the setup of M6 and currently am confused with it.

So there can only be one scum between me and him or can we both flip town together?

Sakura wrote:

@B1rd: how experienced is abraker at mafia (the general game, not the alignment)?

abraker wrote:

Sakura wrote:

@B1rd: how experienced is abraker at mafia (the general game, not the alignment)?

I needed to read your explanations to know what the possible scenarios are. I forgot about the doctor role entirely. Only remembered the BP townie as I was quickly checking the email notification of this thread when gathering my stuff to leave from work.

Sakura wrote:

Also:

Only possible setups atm are 3 and C

Hika wrote:

I think this suspicion with abraker is valid because his graphs and stuff are very fluffy. He's going to generate attention to him, negative or positive, so abraker you should probably fix your game play

Sakura wrote:

@abraker: Because Hika's not a VT silly.

abraker wrote:

I mean for there to be a vanilla townie at all in this game with how things stand

rEdo wrote:

I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.

rEdo wrote:

I also start to question beeboy's alignment due to him getting too silent when the lynch occured. But hey, the same argument applies to me then xd

rEdo wrote:

Jess, why did you hammer Dawnsday. Just what the fuck, we weren't even done with discussion. If I had been on the forum the moment you said you're gonna hammer, or at least hours after that, I would unvote >_> Don't take it too personally, but why do you even bother signing up to these games if you're not even reading what we're doing here?

Sakura wrote:

So i'm just gonna make this clear for everyone so there's no misunderstandings about the setup.

We're either on
C:
1x Town Tracker
1x Town Doctor
5x Vanilla Townie
V.S.
2x Mafia Goon
or
3:
1x Town Tracker
1x Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
5x Vanilla Townie
V.S.
2x Mafia Goon

We cant be in both simultaneously save some serious mod error which i doubt, with this in mind Hika, you're 100% sure rEdo's fake claiming correct?

Sakura wrote:

i had a townread on rEdo at the end of day 1, which makes me go more wtf with that claim.

Frostings wrote:

Hika is suspicious if Dawnsday flips town, because I've seen her pull L-1 at the first opportunity multiple times as scum

beeboy123 wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

Now I know why draw is scum

what do you mean by this Jess o3o

B1rd wrote:

I'd rather lynch deadweight on policy before going after scumreads.

Frosting wrote:

I voted Dawnsday because his posts up to my vote on him were all commentary with little analysis and initiative to find scum
also he keep using the "new to the game" card but I don't believe him

Frosting wrote:

I like Sakura so far

From my experience scum doesn't play that simply
They don't have as much an incentive to quickly get rid of town than making themselves look innocent. Depends a bit on the scum players of course, but I will give the benefit of the doubt they are experienced
It's more likely wagons form with town players voting scummy players.

beeboy123 wrote:

Who do you think is town Abraker?