Sakura wrote:

I want to hear more from abraker tho.

B1rd wrote:

I'm annoyed at abraker and jess for not posting much.

Dawnsday wrote:

So Frostings, would you be willing to elaborate on why you think I am actually not new? I'd be sure as hell interested to see why.

Dawnsday wrote:

Meh it's my first maf game what're ya gonna hold me to, I'm a tad nervy I get that's indicative but this is by no means the be all and end all (as is proven by my Role PM). I sheeped mostly for vote pressure, I'm not gonna bother unvoting (even tho I've considered) till I have someone else in mind, also if I unvoted now it just looks like im panicking to remove heat which just makes my case even worse.

Dawnsday wrote:

Also since I'm L-2 I'm guessing potentially 1 scum has a vote on me already since I could just be hammered and then have scum either feign ignorance to L-# or just agree with the already stupidly high sus. Woo, go town.

Dawnsday wrote:

Beeboy protected me in the face of Sakura calling my going along with the Mason thing sus, this is would be an incredibly weird move for maf as the early confusion makes a nice snowballing target for accusations, instead he opted to bring up meta about the facts from his previous mason falseclaims and made my own arguments for me which is obviously anti beneficial since the confusion which could lead to a mislynch (since this is my first recorded game on the osuforums), it'd simply be easier for him to leave it to me and hope I make a flawed newby argument and get myself voted up a bunch.

Dawnsday wrote:

Closest thing I've played to Mafia is Town of Salem (which I have only JUST got back into because of my performance in this game.), Not sure why there is a claim from Frostings that I am potentially faking the "new" card

abraker wrote:

Sakura, if you are not joining the bandwagon, please defend Dawnsday.

Sakura wrote:

First of all, a vote from me would equal to a lynch.

Sakura wrote:

My 3 straight up townreads in general were pretty much rxn testing but most people ignored it, and i already solidified a townread on you due to something else so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sakura wrote:

Hika's not off the wagon :V

Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown

No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.

Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.

abraker wrote:

Sakura wrote:

First of all, a vote from me would equal to a lynch.

No need to vote. Simply declaring a scumread would suffice

Sakura wrote:

You also seem to have missed my B1rd townread :V

Sakura wrote:

Maybe he's just avoiding outing any more connections at this point u.u
All he keeps talking about is "The outcome if im lynched" instead of scumhunting or elaborating on his Hika scumread.
I would want to hear more from Jess but im 100% sure i cant read her even if she posted more.
I want to hear more from abraker tho.
B1rd looks town.

Frostings wrote:

I voted Dawnsday because his posts up to my vote on him were all commentary with little analysis and initiative to find scum
also he keep using the "new to the game" card but I don't believe him

B1rd wrote:

There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.

@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?

abraker wrote:

Sneak peak at the event list I am making

Frostings wrote:

I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time

Hika wrote:

nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted

keep it in mind

Frostings wrote:

-Snip-
I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time

Hika wrote:

Oh wait I forgot. Why the shit would me and Dawn both be suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.

Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.

abraker wrote:

-[Jess]-, why is Beeboy123 a townie?

abraker wrote:

Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.

Dawnsday wrote:

B1rd didn't vote me, take him as town. imo. All his posts have given me Townie agenda vibes

Hika wrote:

Oh, bird has always been town to me. I don't see how he couldn't be

No need to try defending yourself. It will only bring suffering.

abraker wrote:

Hika wrote:

nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted

keep it in mind

Pending proof from previous mafia games

B1rd wrote:

But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.

-[Jess]- wrote:

Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town

abraker wrote:

B1rd wrote:

I'm also waiting on a response from rEdo about Sakura, and I'm waiting for Sakura to respond to a post in which I implicated her, which she seemed not to bother to respond to for some reason. Also Hika, maybe you can elaborate on how she is acting different from usual this game.

For some reason rEdo hasn't been on for 45 hours, I assume rEdo has RL stuff but that's still pretty poor form. And about jess, that's a bit of headache... I think we can deal with that next the next day.

B1rd wrote:

There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.

@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?

Sakura wrote:

OMFG WTF JESS D2 MY VOTE IS GOING TO YOU AND IS NEVER MOVING.

-[Jess]- wrote:

Now I know why draw is scum

Hika wrote:

@MOD: Can you do an accurate vote count to make sure dawn didn't get rekt

Do you mean my votecounts are unreliable?

(Anyways, I did a double check to be sure)

Hika wrote:

Alright, if I don't vote you, you'll investigate me?
I prefer you not to because I'm VANILLA TOWNIE.

abraker wrote:

Going to bed. Will be around 7pm EST

Need -[Jesse]-'s response

So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.

Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him

B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read

Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.

Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.

rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.

I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.

rEdo wrote:

I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.

rEdo wrote:

rEdo wrote:

I find it really disturbing that abraker didn't point to anyone else as scum besides a safe lynch guy Dawnsday. To me it looks like a try to letting the lynch pass after a very long inactivity.

Reading Jess as scum doesn't count to me. She's playing terrible both as town and as scum.