Charles helped a bit with timing, he refuses to post here for kd for some reason xD
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18:06 Charles445: ok was uh
18:06 Charles445: fluctuating around +2 ish and +6 ish
18:06 Charles445: until about 03:40:896 -
18:07 Charles445: like 03:45:604 - ish is quite early
18:07 Charles445: you might need to work with this drum segment again
18:07 jonathanlfj: so all red points before are too late?
18:07 jonathanlfj: before 03:40:896 -
18:07 Charles445: early
18:07 Charles445: no no
18:07 Charles445: as in
18:07 Charles445: ok so I'm playing the map locally
18:07 Charles445: and changing my offset as it goes to see how far off the itming is at any point
18:08 Charles445: and mostly I am adding +3ish, +5 ish
18:08 Charles445: 2-6 plus, basically, so overall the map is early but that could be just me, yknow
18:08 jonathanlfj: so these are point estimates of certain sections
18:08 Charles445: yes
18:08 Charles445: but right at 03:45:604 -
18:08 Charles445: I'm hitting like +12
18:08 Charles445: well around taht area
18:08 jonathanlfj: so i need to apply like +10 or something
18:09 jonathanlfj: tbh it doesnt sound like +10, maybe +5
18:09 Charles445: by the time I'm at 04:04:162 - it's back to +2
18:09 Charles445: idk it's just that like, drum segment has some serious weirdness in there
18:09 Charles445: and then you go right back to normal as soon as the next segment starts
18:09 Charles445: yeah +4 ish would be the idea
18:09 Charles445: because I'm getting +5 anyway, lol
18:09 jonathanlfj: ok
18:10 jonathanlfj: so is the whole map off by + offsets or are there any - in there?
18:10 jonathanlfj: it will help me when shifting the time lines
18:11 Charles445: lol why is this 7 stars
18:11 Charles445: wtf
18:11 Charles445: no - yet
18:11 jonathanlfj: star rating is broken
18:11 jonathanlfj: also the red combos are what hikes the star rating
18:11 Charles445: ok review 05:38:591 - this segment
18:11 jonathanlfj: if i remove all of them this is like 6.5
18:11 Charles445: and see if it's significantly later than everything else
18:11 Charles445: I mean
18:11 Charles445: earlier
18:11 Charles445: lol
18:12 jonathanlfj: noted
18:12 Charles445: found myself adding 9
18:12 Charles445: this is all by ear btw so
18:12 Charles445: ehh
18:12 Charles445: not very good but
18:12 jonathanlfj: no i can kind of hear it too now that you mention it
18:12 jonathanlfj: the drums in the music arrive slightly later than the hitsounds
18:13 jonathanlfj: good thing its at least not doing +-+- shifts
18:13 jonathanlfj: that just means my timing is trash lol
18:13 Charles445: 06:15:139 - OK REALLY REVIEW THIS PART
18:13 Charles445: this immediately sounded early, huge spike in it
18:14 Charles445: it slowly evens itself out as it goes but I am hitting like +13
18:14 Charles445: +11~
18:14 jonathanlfj: yep i can kinda hear it
18:14 Charles445: red part right after im hitting +11
18:14 Charles445: so like as soon as that part starts it's +11
18:14 Charles445: then like goes down to +4 ish like the rest of the map
18:14 Charles445: then as soon as the kiai hits bam to +11 again
18:15 Charles445: in the second half it gets to about +2 gradually
18:15 Charles445: this is the kiai at 06:55:344 - btw
18:16 jonathanlfj: sht does that mean the kiai is gonna need decimal bpm
18:16 Charles445: ... probably
18:16 Charles445: or a change of some sort
18:16 jonathanlfj: ok i will see what i can do there
18:16 jonathanlfj: so everything is basically early
18:16 Charles445: yeah
18:16 jonathanlfj: some things are more early than others
18:16 Charles445: with varying earliness
18:16 Charles445: but tbh you don't need to worry so much about offset
18:16 Charles445: so much as variance
18:16 Charles445: yes
18:16 jonathanlfj: but if i can get things within +-5ms it should be good
18:17 Charles445: redo the ending hyping bit
18:17 jonathanlfj: alright
18:17 Charles445: because it starts at like +3 and makes it to like +10
18:17 Charles445: +12*
18:17 Charles445: ok so your range is like, +2 to +12 throughout
18:17 jonathanlfj: wait where does it start doing +3 and then where does it end at +12
18:17 Charles445: TBH for this sort of thing that's not bad
18:17 Charles445: o
18:17 Charles445: as soon as the vocalists are +3
18:17 Charles445: 07:10:766 - .like this bit
18:17 Charles445: lemme see where it starts deviating
18:17 jonathanlfj: first time you said start of the kiai is +12 so im confused
18:18 jonathanlfj: oh thats the outro
18:18 jonathanlfj: you said hype part so i got confused
18:18 Charles445: 07:26:947 (1) - I CAN FEEL IT ON THISG UY
18:18 Charles445: o
18:18 Charles445: loil
18:18 jonathanlfj: ok im gonna get to fixing this then
18:18 jonathanlfj: thanks that was really useful
18:18 jonathanlfj: you should post the log
18:18 Charles445: 07:43:151 - by the time it makes it here it's like, +8
18:18 Charles445: eventually reaches ~+12
18:19 Charles445: nahhh just savelog it
18:06 Charles445: fluctuating around +2 ish and +6 ish
18:06 Charles445: until about 03:40:896 -
18:07 Charles445: like 03:45:604 - ish is quite early
18:07 Charles445: you might need to work with this drum segment again
18:07 jonathanlfj: so all red points before are too late?
18:07 jonathanlfj: before 03:40:896 -
18:07 Charles445: early
18:07 Charles445: no no
18:07 Charles445: as in
18:07 Charles445: ok so I'm playing the map locally
18:07 Charles445: and changing my offset as it goes to see how far off the itming is at any point
18:08 Charles445: and mostly I am adding +3ish, +5 ish
18:08 Charles445: 2-6 plus, basically, so overall the map is early but that could be just me, yknow
18:08 jonathanlfj: so these are point estimates of certain sections
18:08 Charles445: yes
18:08 Charles445: but right at 03:45:604 -
18:08 Charles445: I'm hitting like +12
18:08 Charles445: well around taht area
18:08 jonathanlfj: so i need to apply like +10 or something
18:09 jonathanlfj: tbh it doesnt sound like +10, maybe +5
18:09 Charles445: by the time I'm at 04:04:162 - it's back to +2
18:09 Charles445: idk it's just that like, drum segment has some serious weirdness in there
18:09 Charles445: and then you go right back to normal as soon as the next segment starts
18:09 Charles445: yeah +4 ish would be the idea
18:09 Charles445: because I'm getting +5 anyway, lol
18:09 jonathanlfj: ok
18:10 jonathanlfj: so is the whole map off by + offsets or are there any - in there?
18:10 jonathanlfj: it will help me when shifting the time lines
18:11 Charles445: lol why is this 7 stars
18:11 Charles445: wtf
18:11 Charles445: no - yet
18:11 jonathanlfj: star rating is broken
18:11 jonathanlfj: also the red combos are what hikes the star rating
18:11 Charles445: ok review 05:38:591 - this segment
18:11 jonathanlfj: if i remove all of them this is like 6.5
18:11 Charles445: and see if it's significantly later than everything else
18:11 Charles445: I mean
18:11 Charles445: earlier
18:11 Charles445: lol
18:12 jonathanlfj: noted
18:12 Charles445: found myself adding 9
18:12 Charles445: this is all by ear btw so
18:12 Charles445: ehh
18:12 Charles445: not very good but
18:12 jonathanlfj: no i can kind of hear it too now that you mention it
18:12 jonathanlfj: the drums in the music arrive slightly later than the hitsounds
18:13 jonathanlfj: good thing its at least not doing +-+- shifts
18:13 jonathanlfj: that just means my timing is trash lol
18:13 Charles445: 06:15:139 - OK REALLY REVIEW THIS PART
18:13 Charles445: this immediately sounded early, huge spike in it
18:14 Charles445: it slowly evens itself out as it goes but I am hitting like +13
18:14 Charles445: +11~
18:14 jonathanlfj: yep i can kinda hear it
18:14 Charles445: red part right after im hitting +11
18:14 Charles445: so like as soon as that part starts it's +11
18:14 Charles445: then like goes down to +4 ish like the rest of the map
18:14 Charles445: then as soon as the kiai hits bam to +11 again
18:15 Charles445: in the second half it gets to about +2 gradually
18:15 Charles445: this is the kiai at 06:55:344 - btw
18:16 jonathanlfj: sht does that mean the kiai is gonna need decimal bpm
18:16 Charles445: ... probably
18:16 Charles445: or a change of some sort
18:16 jonathanlfj: ok i will see what i can do there
18:16 jonathanlfj: so everything is basically early
18:16 Charles445: yeah
18:16 jonathanlfj: some things are more early than others
18:16 Charles445: with varying earliness
18:16 Charles445: but tbh you don't need to worry so much about offset
18:16 Charles445: so much as variance
18:16 Charles445: yes
18:16 jonathanlfj: but if i can get things within +-5ms it should be good
18:17 Charles445: redo the ending hyping bit
18:17 jonathanlfj: alright
18:17 Charles445: because it starts at like +3 and makes it to like +10
18:17 Charles445: +12*
18:17 Charles445: ok so your range is like, +2 to +12 throughout
18:17 jonathanlfj: wait where does it start doing +3 and then where does it end at +12
18:17 Charles445: TBH for this sort of thing that's not bad
18:17 Charles445: o
18:17 Charles445: as soon as the vocalists are +3
18:17 Charles445: 07:10:766 - .like this bit
18:17 Charles445: lemme see where it starts deviating
18:17 jonathanlfj: first time you said start of the kiai is +12 so im confused
18:18 jonathanlfj: oh thats the outro
18:18 jonathanlfj: you said hype part so i got confused
18:18 Charles445: 07:26:947 (1) - I CAN FEEL IT ON THISG UY
18:18 Charles445: o
18:18 Charles445: loil
18:18 jonathanlfj: ok im gonna get to fixing this then
18:18 jonathanlfj: thanks that was really useful
18:18 jonathanlfj: you should post the log
18:18 Charles445: 07:43:151 - by the time it makes it here it's like, +8
18:18 Charles445: eventually reaches ~+12
18:19 Charles445: nahhh just savelog it