Momochikun wrote:

dear 10nya.. sup' ? sup

After some discussion with captin1 over the map, we get conclusion that this map need to be polished a bit before get approved to correct some timing problem, here's what i got :

[Tentative]
00:00:541 (1) - slider started late and offbeat, this should be placed 1/16 later ( 00:00:561 - )
00:20:858 (1,2) - start them 1/16 later ( 00:20:878 - ) , same issues at 01:06:572 (1,2) - 00:41:175 (2,3,4,5) - 01:47:207 (1,2) -
01:00:540 (1) - i'm a bit worried about the readability of this slider, try moving the first red node a bit up or something ?
01:49:588 (4) - rhythm 1/4 nya rada susah kebaca walau ud ada colorhax, ctrl g ?
03:01:493 (6,1,2) - triplet ini nggak fit, dan rasanya aneh.. mending 1/2 pattern biasa saja, sama kayak 04:33:953 (4) -
03:10:143 (4) - seret ke 03:10:170 -

02:10:382 - the timeline here is bugged , it say 3/4 on the metronome but the timeline itself still on 4/4 metronome. Please fix since it could affect the whole map, could be done by removing it and replacing the greenline with the new time signature wait jd metronomenya ttp 3/4 apa gimana ini

The following triplets need to be changed to 1/6 pattern as they're offbeat : 02:25:620 (1,2,3) - 02:27:524 (1,2,3) - 02:33:239 (1,2,3) - 02:35:143 (1,2,3) - 02:40:858 (1,2,3) - 02:42:762 (1,2,3) - 02:44:667 (1,2,3) - 02:48:477 (1,2,3) - 02:50:381 (1,2,3) - 04:51:016 (1,2,3) - 04:52:920 (1,2,3) - 04:58:635 (1,2,3) - 05:00:540 (1,2,3) - 05:02:445 (1,2,3) - 05:06:255 (1) - 05:08:159 (1) - 05:13:874 (1,2,3) - 05:29:112 (1,2,3) -
please double check all the timeline above as we may wrong or missed something, confirm it with your ear :3

untuk yg bagian ini 04:45:301 (1,2,3) - dst instrumen nya aslinya jg ada yg 1/6 tapi di tick biru juga ada suara.. jadi mau 1/6 pattern atau di keep 1/4 triplet masih fine imo

As for the safe way, i'd advise you to find some timing experts to take a look at the snapping. captin1 should come here later to correct mine or pointing other errors. until then good luck :3

Xinely wrote:

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1. 00:10:700 (3) - ini cymbalnya 00:11:017 - kan keras beb, coba di map http://puu.sh/i98VN.jpg terus di stanzanya di buat jump gitu biar lebih kerasa remapped
2. 00:17:366 (5) - rotate 20 derajat beb biar simetris sama next note, jadi flownya ikut nyambung hmm disini pgnnya dari straight sliders terus ke agak melengkung (kea yg ini) terus yg melengkung bgt kea yg (6), keep current deh ;;
3. 00:19:747 (3) - 316,260? kan sebelum2nya kek pattern relax, kalo tiba2 1/2 jumpnya agak jauh gitu kerasa rada agak aneh menurutku beb oki
4. 00:20:382 (7) - mundurin ke 00:20:461 - terus lanjutin stream 00:20:382 - add note? soalnya kerasa aneh ada 1 stream yg kelewat gitu omg baru sadar, added
5. 00:26:255 (1) - somehow kerasa aneh kalo jump pake spacing kecil, dan ini emang intentional krn flow shape nya.. yaa cuma bilang =v=
6. 00:41:195 (2,3,4,5) - tbh ini ambigu snappingnya, gw dengernya di 1/8 mulai 00:41:215 - , kalo ambigu ini mending gw saranin bikin spin aja mulai dari 00:40:858 - disini gw ngikutin apalah suara yg di 00:41:195 -
7. 00:51:334 (2) - kerasa aneh jg karena jump gede di slider ini tp next slider lebih kecil padahal ada cymbalnya mnurut gw 1,2,1 udah jump semua kok ._. keep current deh
8. 00:56:731 (2) - anti jumpnya sengaja? ini cymbal keras jadi harusnya ngejump sih imo, 00:56:731 (2) - coba 216,352? e disitu triplet lho
9. 01:13:874 (1) - kalo circle sih gw ga terlalu nyaranin buat pke anti jump kek slider sebelumnya, mending disamain kek 01:16:413 (1) - biar konsisten jg keep current deh, tbh gw seneng disini ;w;
10. 01:19:271 (8) - jump gedenya gw kerasa kurang srek juga sih, coba 216,56? wanjer ke (1)-nya jauh amat, gw pindah ke 256 152 ajha yha _:'3
11. 01:23:715 (7) - 128,136 biar konsisten spacingnya, kalo fix, 01:24:509 (10) - ini juga ya okidoki
12. 01:44:509 (2,3,4) - somehow gw ga bisa dapet ini kenapa spacing gede disaat musiknya ga keras remapped
13. 01:51:493 (6) - nazi banget tp buat aja 1,0x spacing biar konsisten lol okidoki
14. 02:37:683 (3,4) - gw lebih saranin stack, somehow gw tadi missread lol e--emang sengaja ;-;
15. 04:11:493 (5) - wait i cant find the snap here o-o pas gw denger ke 25% ini 1/4 bisa juga sih _:'3 ga ganti jadi 1/4 slider stream
16. 03:36:889 (3) - menurut gw sih flownya kerasa forced disini. kalo gw sih mungkin move ke 140,184 03:37:048 (4) - terus ctrl+g oki
17. 03:42:762 (4) - lupa nc beb?
18. 03:53:239 (4) - nc?
19. 04:08:477 (1) - whistle? ^^^ all oke
20. 04:19:588 (3) - gimana kalo di jadiin 1/2 terus add circle di 04:19:826 - biar emphasize drumnya sip
21. 04:36:096 (6) - jauh lebih enak jadiin 1/2 soalnya drum di redticknya bener2 keras, aneh kalo di skip imo
22. 04:43:397 (1,2,3) - should be 1/6 like 02:10:382 (1) -
23. 04:45:301 (1,2,3) - 04:47:206 (1,2,3) - ^ udah dibicarain sama mochi jg, disini ada suara di blue tick jadi 1/4 juga gapapa tbh
24. 05:49:270 (1,2) - sorry kalo gw salah tp harusnya 1/8 kan?
25. 05:53:080 (1,2) - ^
26. 06:00:699 (1,2) - ^ di 25% playback ini 1/6 kok :3

poke me again after you got confirm for those fark snaps

wendao wrote:

00:00:561 (1,2) - 00:20:878 (1,2,3) - 00:40:858 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:06:592 (1,2) - better ask Charles445 for expert timing stuff :< yeah kk
00:00:859 - 4/4 metronome ok
00:19:906 - unused timing point ^
01:22:763 (3,4,5) - tricky tho not tricky enough imo
01:48:636 (1) - kinda ugly tho ;-;
01:49:905 (1) - intentional combo colour setting? fixed
02:06:413 (4) - 1/16 fit here agree tho
03:06:334 - soft sampleset
03:16:969 - ^
03:26:572 (1) - misread as 3/4 instead of 1/1
04:58:636 - unused timing point sv changes here
04:58:794 - unsnapped (must be 1/6)
05:46:255 - unused timing point

pishifat wrote:

might wanna do something about slidertick hitsounds with this in mind: p/4185785

your map would probably get destroyed since it's the exact same thing as that one





and all the 2ms unsnaps

wendao wrote:

uh... move to pending?

Aleycks wrote:

Hey ! Just some very quick feedback because this map is worth it.

02:29:429 (1,2) - patterns like these are incorrect, I don't think there's any 1/6 here and it feels very odd to play. I think it's 1/4 honestly. Please consider changing that

Charles445 wrote:

Since the sample is delayed you're moving things forward 1/16, which is really weird to play and causes problems in other places (like 03:41:512 - where white and red ticks have prominent beats)
It'd be a better idea to simply ignore the shortcomings of the sample and map intuitively, since the intuitive beat is what the player is going to play anyway, considering they are a mere 20 ms different.

The first slider is good because there is no audio before objects, it's a free 4 notes to establish the BPM and offset.

1/16 repeats are risky if the BPM is high and in this case it causes the repeat to be 20 ms long, which causes easy unfair breaks.


blah blah blah changes that can be made postbubble, so change once you find a BN

Mako Sakata wrote:

Regarding to http://puu.sh/k7owp/dfc215f720.png and http://puu.sh/k7oAG/e64e38d1a8.png there's unsnapped note around 00:35:460 - 00:36:730 -

Sebenernya pas aku periksa secara manual masih banyak yg ga snapped, tapi bedanya cuma selisih 1ms aja kaya di atas. Coba tenya periksa ulang deh siapa tau aku salah

1. 00:59:906 (1,2,3,4,1) - the 1/4 slider jump of 1 and 2 is a bit over imo, and the flow of 01:00:224 (3,4,1) - gives me a bad feedback on gameplay, maybe let the 01:00:541 (1) - begins from left to right works better
2. 02:06:414 (4) - 1/6 snapping, wtf 1/16 is? lol
3. 02:31:175 (5,6,1,2) - well these sliders ends at downbeat make me feel really^n weird when playing, cant even catch the rhythm
4. 02:38:953 (4) - nc?
5. 04:40:540 (1) - it's not a necessary nc imo
6. 05:23:397 (1,2,3) - 1/6, you'd better map it as the similar parts in your map

Minakami Yuki wrote:

1. Just some complaints.
2. My personal suggestions.
3. Highly recommended.
4. Unrankable, you have to fix it.

Tentative

1. 00:59:906 (1,2,3,4,1) - the 1/4 slider jump of 1 and 2 is a bit over imo, and the flow of 01:00:224 (3,4,1) - gives me a bad feedback on gameplay, maybe let the 01:00:541 (1) - begins from left to right works better
2. 02:06:414 (4) - 1/6 snapping, wtf 1/16 is? lol
3. 02:31:175 (5,6,1,2) - well these sliders ends at downbeat make me feel really^n weird when playing, cant even catch the rhythm
4. 02:38:953 (4) - nc?
5. 04:40:540 (1) - it's not a necessary nc imo
6. 05:23:397 (1,2,3) - 1/6, you'd better map it as the similar parts in your map

HelloSCV wrote:

take these and good luck lol

Gloria Guard wrote:

頑張れ ~~~~~~~ :3

Nwolf wrote:

it doesn't change anything but having 04:58:635 - this as a 4/4 section makes me cry, it's 3/4. I wonder how that doesn't disturb while mapping lol

Sonnyc wrote:

Random bubble check.

01:00:541 (1) - The path feels quite abnormal compared to the song since it makes a partial burai overlap. changed otherway
01:06:255 (1,1,2) - I personally feel this has potential readability issue. I recommend increasing the slider velocity multiplier of 01:06:255 (1) to at least 0.8x to make the slider tick of 3/4 slider visible. okay
02:00:224 (1) - Purple in a row in combo color? Check if this is not a mistake. whoops
02:06:414 (4) - Snap should be 1/8, or at least consistent with the counterpart which is 03:25:461 (8) imo. http://puu.sh/o1wQ0/7b6361048a.png some opinions from other bns fyi. it was actually around 1/16 lmao but fixed on 1/8 anyways
05:31:122 (2,3) - More spacing here for a better reading. oki
06:01:175 - Mind reducing the reverse of (2), and adding a note here to make a 5 note stream? That way would be better for players to catch the rhythm imo. fixed otherway~

Nwolf wrote:

it doesn't change anything but having 04:58:635 - this as a 4/4 section makes me cry, it's 3/4. I wonder how that doesn't disturb while mapping lol

Yeah, let's also make 04:58:636 - a 3/4 metronome. okay

popping for that snapping issue, and the time signature issu, but anyways Yuki's bubble should've been #1 since it seems there were other snapping issues back then too lol
Cool map.

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wendao wrote:

>svdx

sdvx boz

Aleycks wrote:

I've already mentionned this here but I see that this is almost getting ranked so allow me to remind you of my opinion...
For the love of peppy, I SWEAR you should change these 02:35:143 (1,2) - it just doesn't make any sense rythmically, you're having a clickable object on a PURPLE tick here ! There are several of these throughout the map, if I were you I would just turn them into a single reverse sliders like you already did for previous patterns.

pls, DO IT. T-T

Okorin wrote:

the fuck is going on here (or more like not going on here lmao)

do you need another icon or is someone already checking this. I'd give this a try after looking through it

Cherry Blossom wrote:

There is a lot of things to improve, don't qualify before I edit this post within 24 hours. (i can bubble pop but for now i don't do anything)

1. 00:34:985 (7,1,2) - this looks a little uncomfortable to play, and not natural. It would look more natural to play if the spacing between 7.1.2 were constant and in a straight line. The little angle between these objects makes them unnecessarily more difficult to aim.
2. 01:20:224 (4,1,2) - It could be better if you tidy the spacing here because it looks a little clunky, even if it changes nothing concerning gameplay, but at least do it for the sake of visual.
3. 02:01:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I don't really know your intention by making the distance between 02:01:652 (1,2) - and 02:02:446 (4,5) - inconsistent, visually it looks weird and it doesn't really give a good impression, and i see many more things like this in this map.
4. 02:53:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Visually this can be immproved, you can make a better shape for this stream, and it will also look more comfortable to play a stream with better shapes, make something better which looks like this :
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 03:52:128 (5,6) - There should be more distance between them if you want to emphasize 03:52:286 (6) - , the long distance between 03:51:810 (3,4) - makes the low distance 03:52:128 (5,6) - really easier in comparison, but may be surprising too because the distance is low, and the player might hit the circle too early.
6. 04:25:620 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This stream is mapped to nothing, there's nothing clearly audible on blue ticks and it really looks weird that you put a stream when the song doesn't really call for it.
7. 05:37:048 (2,3,4,5,6) - Here too, this little shape can be improved to give a better impression visually.
   
   
   NCs are questionable too like 05:24:350 (1,1) - , i don't really see why you add a new NC here, you should avoid some NC spam, it's unnecessary because the map is dense and the HP setting is low for a difficulty like this. Reconsider the way you NC this map.

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Awh well, i just get back to modding, things may not be that accurate.

1. 00:34:985 (7,1,2) - this looks a little uncomfortable to play, and not natural. It would look more natural to play if the spacing between 7.1.2 were constant and in a straight line. The little angle between these objects makes them unnecessarily more difficult to aim. slightly unoticed to me but thanks for pointing ;;
2. 01:20:224 (4,1,2) - It could be better if you tidy the spacing here because it looks a little clunky, even if it changes nothing concerning gameplay, but at least do it for the sake of visual. agreed, fixed to 1,3x
3. 02:01:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I don't really know your intention by making the distance between 02:01:652 (1,2) - and 02:02:446 (4,5) - inconsistent, visually it looks weird and it doesn't really give a good impression, and i see many more things like this in this map. fixed
4. 02:53:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Visually this can be immproved, you can make a better shape for this stream, and it will also look more comfortable to play a stream with better shapes, make something better which looks like this : fixed
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 03:52:128 (5,6) - There should be more distance between them if you want to emphasize 03:52:286 (6) - , the long distance between 03:51:810 (3,4) - makes the low distance 03:52:128 (5,6) - really easier in comparison, but may be surprising too because the distance is low, and the player might hit the circle too early. made 5 a bit far now
6. 04:25:620 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This stream is mapped to nothing, there's nothing clearly audible on blue ticks and it really looks weird that you put a stream when the song doesn't really call for it. changed into 1/2s
7. 05:37:048 (2,3,4,5,6) - Here too, this little shape can be improved to give a better impression visually. changed the ds, hope its fixed now
   
   
   NCs are questionable too like 05:24:350 (1,1) - , i don't really see why you add a new NC here, you should avoid some NC spam, it's unnecessary because the map is dense and the HP setting is low for a difficulty like this. Reconsider the way you NC this map. fixed yea actually i was nc'd this for hp restoring orz

wendao wrote:

no kd lol

00:05:938 (4,1) - swap NC
00:21:176 (3,1) - ^
00:28:954 (2,5) - avoid overlap (?)
00:58:478 (4) - NC to make the combo only 3 notes is somehow bad for me, i'll keep mine
01:00:541 (1) - nazi
01:51:176 (5,1) - swap NC
01:56:573 (5) - NC
01:58:636 (1,2) - swap NC
02:42:128 (1,1) - avoid overlap nothing wrong with this overlap imo
02:44:032 (1,1) - ?? (overlap) sengaja gk ditempat yg sama orz
02:45:620 (1,1,1) - ??? ^ ^
02:45:620 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - any reason to not put red combocolor?
03:19:905 (4) - NC keep mine for the consistency
04:41:810 - honestly I don't think this Timing Point is necessary, because there's strong beat on 04:42:762 -
04:58:636 - Timing Point because there's 1 ms difference, rly color=#BF00FF]metronome changed, about timing i already asked some bns/staff so there's should nothing wrong with it[/color]

10nya wrote:

might Okorin post some issues too?

updated

10nya wrote:

wendao wrote:

00:58:478 (4) - NC to make the combo only 3 notes is somehow bad for me, i'll keep mine well make sense, just point it because of 00:56:573 (1,1) -
04:41:810 - honestly I don't think this Timing Point is necessary, because there's strong beat on 04:42:762 - this is somehow important, but it's fine to skip this one
04:58:636 - Timing Point because there's 1 ms difference, rly metronome changed, about timing i already asked some bns/staff so there's should nothing wrong with it are you sure there's change of metronome? for the timing itself, it's just weird (for me at least) that someone can hear 1 ms differences

metronome

MisterDinner wrote:

hey, thats pretty good.
Im a noob but ill mod the best i can

mod

00:03:081 (3,3) - the way the ends of these dont point directly at the next note, bleh it stands out for me
00:17:684 (2) - ^
00:45:303 (4) - ^ no problem here imo
01:20:700 (1) - ^
02:46:889 (1) - ^ also make the elbow appear earlier to make better use of momentum
03:17:524 (3) - ^ *another elbow timing complaint*
03:37:048 (4) - ^ you can keep the elbow just point the start at the next note, youll have to change the position of this 03:38:001 (1) - as well which will put it in the direct path of the previous note

00:25:144 (2) - maybe this could be pointed directly away from the previous note for flow reasons
01:25:144 (3) - ^ could be wrapped around the next slider
03:15:620 (3) - ^ make it curve away from the previous slider itll flow better
03:20:858 (3) - ^
03:35:143 (5) - ^

01:29:906 (2,3) - these stand out, it doesnt seem right to have the ends snapped to orchestral hits it's full of 1/1 notes so making slider would be better to follow
01:34:985 (2,3) - ^
01:40:065 (2,3) - ^

01:09:430 (1,2,3,4) - for me it doesnt look nice to have sliders touching eachother in that way, Kappa idk i like these xD
00:49:112 (1) - ^

01:14:192 (3,4,1) - make this straight it looks ugly well i prefer my own atm ><
02:28:794 (3,4,5) - ^

02:46:572 (1) - the second segment should be horizontal to the slider above it
04:49:428 (1) - ^

04:20:858 (5) - ew, make it bend around the previous note more

05:34:985 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - make this perfectly round
05:58:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - ^
06:01:175 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ this should bend around the note before it

Those 2 spinners at the end are un needed, the map already has almost 6 minutes of play time so you can use it as a result screen outro bit to end the map at first spinner is somehow 'hanging' the song tbh

Its a nice map, just a bunch of flow problems

10nya wrote:

just realized it went to graveyard gg

1. 00:05:938 (1,2) - i don't see what's different here from the previous measures, why suddenly twice as many circles ah no wait i see it, but that way
2. 00:15:462 (3) - makes less sense as it's the same thing
3. 00:14:192 (2,1) - this comes out of nowhere and doesn't really do anything it's not indicated or anything so idk i can't make sense of as to why you do that
4. 00:24:668 (4,1,2) - thiss doesn't make sense with the way you did rhythm before (00:22:287 (5) - 00:23:557 (5) - ) besides 00:25:144 (2) - isn't really helping achieve anything
5. 00:26:255 (1) - might want to have this stand out through either breaking flow or spacing
6. 00:28:636 (5,1,2) - crtl+g ing rhythm here would make way more sense with what the song does and what your map usually does for this
7. 00:32:446 (6,1,2) - similar thing, just not with the reverse
   at this pint imma just say this applies to most of the intro lol
8. 00:33:239 (3,4) - 00:35:779 (3,4) - song is constantly picking up pace in this part but you alternate between sliders and not sliders
9. 00:41:176 (2,3,4,5,1) - the cutoff from stream to slider doesn't look very neat mostly due to the sliders shape not complimenting anything the stream did
10. 00:56:890 (4) - would make more sense as just circles i think
11. 01:00:541 (1) - should not go back over itself (which it kinda does now)
12. 01:20:065 (3,4) - would be more expected to be stacked
13. 01:20:700 (1,2) - doing something like https://puu.sh/sMpt5/59c24ed929.png would make way more sense with what's happening in the song and what's happened in the map so far, alternatively you should maybe also reconsider ending 01:20:224 (4) - in the same sound you had clicked at 01:18:001 (4) -
14. 01:22:287 (2) - same
15. 01:24:033 - 01:24:351 - not clicking these goes against everything you established with 01:08:795 (1,2) - 01:11:335 (1,2) - 01:13:874 (1,2,3,4) -
16. 01:16:414 (1,2,3,4) -
17. 01:25:938 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - music isn't suggesting groups of 3, it's doing three groups of two instead so emphasis should be on each white tick ideally
18. 01:29:906 (2,3) - not too much a fan of these for known reasons
19. 01:42:446 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - represent the song much better, the rest of this section kinda doesn't do that though
20. 01:48:319 (4) - 01:49:589 (4) - i don't hear anything that would suggest anything being held, playing these in this part kinda doesn't fit anything
21. 02:33:239 (1,2) - playing these or any others of this is kinda uncomfortable because the way you simplified them they play like an 1/3 pattern with a weird cutoff at the end
22. 02:45:620 - extends seem kinda unnecessary for this but i guess that's preference
23. 03:08:477 (5,6) - doesn't really reflect what's happening music wise
24. 03:22:762 (1,2,3,4) - 03:23:715 (6,7) - should be way more similar since they represent the same
25. 03:51:810 (3) - music doesn't suggest this, kinda overmappwed for no reason
26. 03:53:080 (3) - could leave 1/4 delay between sliders like this if they're followed by objects, would make interpreting them less mean for players
27. 03:56:096 - would prefer clicking this as it's quite essential to the song but not represented in the map
28. 04:31:334 (6,1,2) - 04:34:032 (1,2) - 04:35:620 (4) - why do you suddenly switch to red ticks nothing really suggests this ;_;

Xinely wrote:

entah dah brp lama ini map sampe udah ga ada di osu gw lagi

Okorin wrote:

yeah only took like half a year <3

[general]
combo 1 is much darker than the rest making it harder to read over this dark bg and complete black, would suggest making it brighter works okidoki

[map]

1. 00:05:938 (1,2) - i don't see what's different here from the previous measures, why suddenly twice as many circles ah no wait i see it, but that way i feel like want to emphasize the Bell(??) sound so i put circles there
2. 00:15:462 (3) - makes less sense as it's the same thing
3. 00:14:192 (2,1) - this comes out of nowhere and doesn't really do anything it's not indicated or anything so idk i can't make sense of as to why you do that fixd
4. 00:24:668 (4,1,2) - thiss doesn't make sense with the way you did rhythm before (00:22:287 (5) - 00:23:557 (5) - ) besides 00:25:144 (2) - isn't really helping achieve anything
5. 00:26:255 (1) - might want to have this stand out through either breaking flow or spacing
6. 00:28:636 (5,1,2) - crtl+g ing rhythm here would make way more sense with what the song does and what your map usually does for this
7. 00:32:446 (6,1,2) - similar thing, just not with the reverse
   at this pint imma just say this applies to most of the intro lol
8. 00:33:239 (3,4) - 00:35:779 (3,4) - song is constantly picking up pace in this part but you alternate between sliders and not sliders
9. 00:41:176 (2,3,4,5,1) - the cutoff from stream to slider doesn't look very neat mostly due to the sliders shape not complimenting anything the stream did
10. 00:56:890 (4) - would make more sense as just circles i think
11. 01:00:541 (1) - should not go back over itself (which it kinda does now)
12. 01:20:065 (3,4) - would be more expected to be stacked
13. 01:20:700 (1,2) - doing something like https://puu.sh/sMpt5/59c24ed929.png would make way more sense with what's happening in the song and what's happened in the map so far, alternatively you should maybe also reconsider ending 01:20:224 (4) - in the same sound you had clicked at 01:18:001 (4) -
14. 01:22:287 (2) - same
15. 01:24:033 - 01:24:351 - not clicking these goes against everything you established with 01:08:795 (1,2) - 01:11:335 (1,2) - 01:13:874 (1,2,3,4) -
16. 01:16:414 (1,2,3,4) -
17. 01:25:938 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - music isn't suggesting groups of 3, it's doing three groups of two instead so emphasis should be on each white tick ideally
18. 01:29:906 (2,3) - not too much a fan of these for known reasons
19. 01:42:446 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - represent the song much better, the rest of this section kinda doesn't do that though
20. 01:48:319 (4) - 01:49:589 (4) - i don't hear anything that would suggest anything being held, playing these in this part kinda doesn't fit anything
21. 02:33:239 (1,2) - playing these or any others of this is kinda uncomfortable because the way you simplified them they play like an 1/3 pattern with a weird cutoff at the end
22. 02:45:620 - extends seem kinda unnecessary for this but i guess that's preference
23. 03:08:477 (5,6) - doesn't really reflect what's happening music wise
24. 03:22:762 (1,2,3,4) - 03:23:715 (6,7) - should be way more similar since they represent the same
25. 03:51:810 (3) - music doesn't suggest this, kinda overmappwed for no reason
26. 03:53:080 (3) - could leave 1/4 delay between sliders like this if they're followed by objects, would make interpreting them less mean for players
27. 03:56:096 - would prefer clicking this as it's quite essential to the song but not represented in the map
28. 04:31:334 (6,1,2) - 04:34:032 (1,2) - 04:35:620 (4) - why do you suddenly switch to red ticks nothing really suggests this ;_;

most of the problems i have with this are things that just dont really represent what the song is putting emphasis on through rhythm, my willingness to push this further basically depends on how you go about addressing the fundamental things (read as rhythm things i pointed out and generalised)
a few parts of this work pretty well so i'd hope to push this

Yohanes wrote:

Gz Gz Gz!!

My Angel Azusa wrote:

I don't really think this map is ready for rank...

[Descendant]

1. You have used a lot of variation of rhythms for intro. These include 1/1, 1/2 sliders, 1/1,1/2 reverse sliders and 2 1/2 circles. However the music is kinda similar for the whole intro.
   00:01:811 (3,4) - this, for example, idk why you use 1/1 slider plus a circle to emphasise 00:02:287 (4) - instead of 00:02:128 - ,which has a louder drum beat. Kinda weird 00:01:176 (1,2,3,4) - not consistent when the music is basically 1/2 drum spam. i want to make a 'relaxing' opening and will become harder (1/1 with less 1/2 and then a lot of 1/2 with less 1/1), spamming this all with 1/2 will make the quiet intro kinda disturbed imo
   00:05:938 (1,2) - this is even worse cuz i dont think music is intense enough for you to use 2 circles instead of a slider. Music doesn't change. emphasize the bell sound
   00:12:922 (3) - weird 1/1 reverse slider here, what's your intension? You never used this pattern when music is similar, and i think you ignored some red tick sounds that you mapped before. the music is kinda similar with 00:18:001 - part so i want to use those pattern
   00:14:192 (2,3,4,5) - i feel like you are creating a kind of rhythm in your mind...00:14:192 (2,4) - totally inconsistent with other parts. Even in your hitsound the downbeats are on white ticks, so idk why you do this here. there's not only drum on (2,3) - um idk what that ringing(?) sound along 2,3,4,5,6,7 and yes i know its my bad to creating my own kind of rhythm, but i cant? i still think this part is still nonstop 1/2 and then there's that ringing sound. and yes i did ignore the ringing sound except this part
   00:18:001 (3) - same here, i think 2 sliders will be more appropriate umm im still going with slow and relaxing intro part.. orz
2. 00:28:954 (1,2) - blanket my bad, but i think its not too noticeable since its only need 1grid down uwu
3. 00:31:970 (4,6,3) - 00:33:557 (5,2) - overlaps here seem really random, id prefer clean them up a bit its intentional.. i dont really like perfectly stacked or slightly un-overlapping
4. 00:40:224 (1,2,3,4) - why is ds increasing so much here? 00:40:541 (3,4) - too far away, music isn't intense. um from 1,2,3,4,1 the music is increasing so i moved 3,4 kinda far to emphasize next slider
5. 00:49:112 (1,3) - overlap feels messy i liked this one tho qwq
6. 00:51:335 (2) - should be 2 circles. Unlike 00:43:716 (2) - 00:46:255 (2) - 00:48:795 (2) - , 00:51:493 - has a downbeat so should be mapped imo. hmm, i was following the music while it has similar sound with previous slider. the music is actually the same as 00:45:938 - this part too so yeah u.u
7. 00:58:478 (4) - NC whoops my bad orz
8. 01:01:732 - shouldn't slider end here? Having 80% volume 01:01:493 - is really too loud. ending it on the blue tick doesnt seem to be my preferable but i was thinking like "rather than finish this on blue tick i think finish it as 1/1 to next note is noticeable" _:3
9. Slider tick rate 2 is unnecessary imo ,for sliders such as 01:00:541 (1) - the ticks are too loud. i aware about this but i dont really want the hp drain nukd when people HR, also some part isnt kinda recognized that its end at blue tick so i hope adding the slider tick would help it orz
10. 01:09:906 (2,3) - keep some symmetry? :cries: i kinda like this part but i think current one is ok
11. 01:13:874 (1,2,3,4) - i dont get why you suddenly choose 4 circles instead of 2 sliders here. There's no change in music and 01:14:033 (2,4) - don't deserve such emphasis umm i want to make variety here orz previous part was 1/2 slider so i tried to change the style since i think it'll be boring to put it as sliders again
12. 01:16:414 (1,2,3,4) - same as above
13. 01:26:097 (2,4,6) - dont think there should be circles here, the music here is too weak compared to 01:25:938 (1,3,5) - i think the jump pattern actually help it to emphasize the (1,3,5) and since the music is going to change at the next part, so i decided to make this a lil bit harder
14. 01:26:811 - this should be mapped but you ignored.. at this part, i really want to follow the sound rather than the drum on the white tick >< because i think all part following the drum would be boring... thus last part is following the drum so much, thats why i intended to make this part not following the drum ;w;
15. 01:28:636 - etc. why put this as reverse? Clearly you are not following drums so this is downbeat. ^
16. 01:30:858 (4) - use a slider is better. Not good to keep it empty. i was trying to make some variety and small break here, since previous part is a lot of 1/1 slider so yeah, i think it can make player rest for a bit
17. 01:31:970 (3,4) - should be smaller ds i was trying to make somehow the jump is similar but leads to 01:32:287 (1) - 's but yeah i think i should've rearranged this one
18. 01:37:049 (2,3,4,5) - 3 and 5 isnt that clear, 1.0x ds stream seems overdone. You could try 2 1/4 sliders instead. i dont think its unreadable as well. also it doesnt affect the gameplay since its has a circular(?) flow. and i was using 1/4 sliders on this kind of part so i decided to not use that again on this part since it will be kind of boring imo
19. Not going to mention similar places throughout this section.
20. 01:42:922 (4,2,1) - kinda messy overlaps i agree but it doesnt affect the gameplay much, i think this part has a good flow and following rhythm too
21. 01:48:478 - why empty here..
22. 01:49:747 - 01:49:827 - same,should map a 1/4 slider here this part.. is actually has been mentioned on previouses mod, so decided to let those part empty and follow the loud part instead
23. 02:16:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - should be grouped in 3s so 02:16:096 (1,2,1) - 02:17:048 (2,1,2,3) - and you should delete 02:17:524 (2) -
24. 02:21:175 (3,2) - can probably stack them there is actually a sound on the red ticks (02:17:524 - and 02:17:842 - ) but i think to not follow the last sound on the red tick one because i want some variation. i know its inconsistent but i think it lead to some variety like "follow and then not follow"
25. 02:32:286 - downbeat here, why mapped as slider end? my bad, i was trying to emphasize 02:31:969 (3) - since previous pattern that have the same rhythm start with a slider
26. 02:35:143 (1,2) - sudden change from 1/6 reverse to 2 sliders, very inconsistent and confusing. i think its not quite confusing because i made 02:33:239 (1) - a 1/6 slider on the same pattern like this one, also the ds made it clear to see that it's 1/6
27. 02:37:048 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - same as above same
28. 02:52:683 - why ignore the drum? because its not loud as next part, also i want to focus on only 1/2 since the 1/2 sound is pretty loud
29. 02:58:477 (3,4,5) - aesthetics. :cries:
30. 04:11:493 (1) - might use a bigger sv, and 04:11:731 - 04:12:048 - there are 1/4 beats here. hmm talked this part with Natsu long time ago, decided to follow the loud sound and make it catchable (by making it triplet). making it as stream, i think its not very catchable. to increase the sv.. i think no orz
31. 04:23:953 - not sure why it's 1/4 my bad orz. i was thinking it'll fit to put triplet to make some variation (of course i created my own rhythm here)
32. 04:52:603 - etc should be emphasised rather than mapped as slider end.. i know its kinda absurd but i tried a different style of making triplet rhythms here
33. 04:52:206 (3) - 04:54:111 (3,5) - etc i think they are ghost notes. my bad, but i was intended to make some rhythm variation to make some "energetic" opening which lead to the kiai part
34. 04:54:111 (3,5) - aesthetics. i dont feel it will affect the gameplay too much
35. 05:43:397 (3,1) - ds feels too small i do agree but stacking it would be bad imo and put it far doesnt make a clear point because the music is going down
36. 05:43:080 (1,1) - overlap is a bit messy i want to make a 'rounded' flow since the previous stream was rounded(?) shape. so if i separate (2) into zigzag movement is kinda strange imo
37. 06:00:699 (1) - 1/8d i'll talk to other person about this snapping because some of them said its 1/6
38. 06:01:016 (2) - use a 1/4 slider instead? drum 06:01:096 - i was planning to make this as 1/4 slider but next part was a spaced stream so i think its better to make the player rest and can prepare for the aim to the spaced stream ><
    80% is kinda too loud imo so maybe reduce some volumes. Also its better to silence some slider ends on blue tick. i think the volume is applies differently to all people but thank you for pointing those out!
    I didné mention everything, sometimes there are similar problems.

I really hope this can be improbed a bit.

Pentori wrote:

hello 10nya!
decided to give this a look since the hitsounds made me feel uneasy :/

00:40:224 (1,2,3,4) - i feel this is a little too intense for what the music provides. 00:41:176 (2,3,4,5) - feels a lot more powerful, yet is easier to play ah yeah, fixed
00:42:128 (3,1) - combo usage here seems inconsistent with how you did combo's later on 00:44:668 (3,4) - 00:47:208 (3,4) - etc.
01:00:541 (1) - and yeah this is really awkward because of how close it is to 01:01:811 (2) . ending it on the red or blue tick would've been more appropriate
01:06:255 (1) - there is nothing on the white tick specifically, the fade in comes a little after it. tbh you might as well remove it i do believe the fade starts here tho
01:17:684 (3,5) - not entirely sure what these are following, the other ticks you skipped feel a lot stronger 01:17:843 - 01:18:319
01:19:747 (2,4) - ^
01:22:287 (2,3) - similar kind of thing, the emphasis feels off. also you should add whistles to 01:22:605 - 01:23:081 - and remove the one on 01:22:763 - to follow the main melody
01:27:208 - i feel as if your hitsounding doesn't complement your rhythms at all. you are hitsounding to every 2nd beat, yet your rhythms are following the melody which leads to lots of anticipated claps to be skipped 01:28:795 - 01:30:065 - etc. imo, using whistles or something for the melody would've been more appropriate. sliders like 01:44:985 (1,2) - have no hitsounds on the head yet at 01:46:414 (4) - you're emphasising the melody with a clap hitsound which is extremely strange

01:47:208 (1,2) - using whistles here instead of claps works better with the strings. also there is nothing in the music that sets apart 01:47:366 (2) - and 01:47:208 (1) - so the hitsounds should be the same
01:47:843 - 01:51:017 - 01:51:970 (3) - another example of how you're hitsounding to a track that you generally aren't following.
01:48:636 - whistle?
01:49:589 - missing a circle or something? generally you utilised 1/1 pauses 01:48:319 (3,1) - 01:52:128 (4,1)
01:50:382 (3,4,5) - quite uncomfortable to play imo. after everything was so back and forth, using linear flow can catch ppl off
01:54:033 (2,3,4,5) - 01:55:144 (1,2,3,4) - why dont you stay consistent with previous patterning? the kinda stuff you did with 01:52:605 (1,2,3,4,5) - works well here
02:03:239 (4) - finish cos strong beat, like you did with 02:02:763 (1)
02:02:763 - you should probably take another look at the clap usage in this part. there is no reason why you should hitsound 02:03:081 (3) - over 02:02:922 (2) - when all of the beats are the same kick drum in the music. removed all clap till 02:06:652 -
02:04:271 - add note for triplet? u mapped the other triplets in this section 02:03:319 (5) - 02:03:795 (9) somekind of break to player because next part is stream
02:06:255 (3) - why not something like http://puu.sh/tXDIE/ae81be90c5.jpg to keep the circular movement from the stream? tried it but the pattern 'exit' would be strange at the last slider imo
02:06:652 (1) - you can finish this spinner on the red or blue ticks, since the sound doesnt actually end that early and you dont need as much recovery time in an extra
02:13:874 (3) - why finish this on the blue tick? there are still melodies on the red 02:14:032
02:19:588 (3) - ^ same with the rest of the extended sliders. they dont really work in this section imo ;w;
02:31:969 (3,1,2) - ctrl g rhythm? emphasis seems the wrong way around
02:35:143 (1,2) - i dont see the need to do this, the music hasn't really picked up or changed yet to be changing your patterns. ppl will just break here since they are expecting a 1/6 reverse
02:56:255 (2) - not really a fan of this artificial hitsounding
02:59:905 (1,2) - seems inconsistent since you normally started ur claps on the red tick 02:56:255 (2)
03:07:842 - 03:08:477 - hitsounding every 2nd beat no longer works out that well since the time signature is 3/4 so the claps end up on all sorts of beats
03:08:477 (5) - nc for downbeat?
03:13:397 (2,3,4) - misleading, since the hitsounds imply that you are hitting 2 notes yet there are 3 here i follow my previous HS pattern and if i put clap on the blue tick it'll sound strange and not fit, and also the AR helps player to recognize its triplet despite the hs is 1/2
03:18:953 (1,2,3) - flow seems pretty restricted here, when everything else has such high spacing
03:28:159 (1) - extended slider doesn't work well since you are skipping over the strings on 03:28:318
03:28:159 (1,2) - comboing seems a bit strange. shouldn't these be swapped?
03:30:381 (1,2,3,4) - could pay more attention to the violin here by making 03:30:858 - clickable, since most of your rhythms were following the melody 03:29:429 (5,6,7)
03:35:778 (1,2) - swap nc
03:41:810 - dont think the clap is necessary
03:45:937 (2,3) - ctrl g rhythm? emphasis on strings
04:12:921 (5) - clap should be here instead of 04:12:604 (4) - ? since you normally put claps on the 3rd white tick of each measure 04:13:874 - 04:14:826 - 04:15:778
04:18:635 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - claps all over the place
04:27:524 - and in this section you don't use many claps, when it's just a repeat of the last section which makes it very inconsistent
04:51:492 - you should change red tick samplesets to soft, so you can emphasise white ticks with hitsounds. you did this in the last kiai 02:57:207 - 02:57:524 - and it works well
05:57:524 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the drums are so weak at this point, it's honestly overkill to map this as a full stream. breaking this up with 1/4 reverse sliders would be a lot more appropriate and makes the build up stronger yeah i agree but since its the end of the map i feel like to add streams here, thus the ds is increasing i think its ok to build the feeling
05:49:270 (1,2) - 05:53:080 (1,2) - 06:00:699 (1) - these are 1/8

the hitsounds are really concerning, since they aren't really following the music at all and don't work with the time signature. imo you should just use normal sampleset for strong drums, whistles for the melodies and soft sampleset for everything else that isn't important. 02:40:858 - is a great example of this

best of luck !