Fort wrote:

hi from siberia

Testplay request

8x retries, RIP mouse only streams

yeah i know im too lazy too acc

- overall this map good at 1/2 pattern and some streams too

some additional suggestion for gameplay
Translated to bahasa

Ganti nama diff dengan "Redemption" (terinspirasi dari mapnya ktgster) diff name nanti aja uwu

01:00:398 (4,1) - ane rasa flow disini terlalu maksa sama susah buat dibaca + SV pelan malah semakin keras aja flow disini. menurut ane coba pindahin slider 1 ke x224y356 sekaligus reshape slider remapped this part o/
01:48:335 (4,5) - sebaiknya gunakan 1/2 slider buat slider 4 keep current deh, kalo 1/2 agak sepi
01:58:811 (2) - ane rasa reverse slider disini harus jelas keliatan, readability disana terbatas bgt, jadi ane harap reverse slider jgn di stack/overlap sama 01:57:382 (1) - .
02:27:224 (5,1,2,3) - entah kenapa ane sering dpt 1x100 disini (include some similiar pattern)
02:31:192 (1) - NC disini kurang enak diliat + gk ngerasain downbeat/upbeat disana
03:01:509 (6) - pakai slider 1/2 aja keep current deh
03:25:636 (1,2) - menurut ane ini lebih baik di stack kalo di stack pada ngga kebaca, udah minta banyak testplay ><"
04:11:509 (6) - lol 1x100 mulu disini, lebih baik kurangi 1 reverse slider (lebih tepatnya ini pattern 1/16 jadi slider end nya di 04:11:589 - ) kalo dikurangin malah jadi aneh sih, see other opinion deh
04:49:128 (1,1,1) - SV changes nya terlalu mendadak, tapi gpp lah
05:24:683 (1,2) - ane kurang setuju sama ini pattern, lebih baik gunakan reverse slider atau 1/2 pattern (kesannya kaya overmapped yg gk enak bgt + pattern selanjutnya itu triplet ditambah deathstrim yg bikin player bingung) dan ane harap jgn hiding notes ini 05:24:842 (2) -
05:31:350 (4,5) - change to 1/2 slider better well nyamain rhythm sama previous pattern disini owo;
05:34:683 (1) - sebenarnya 1/8 notes itu mulai nya dari 05:34:763 - . lebih baik gunakan 1/4 circle stream aja lah
05:39:921 (1,2) - ini juga menurut ane gk terlalu sense sama musik (sama random NCs bikin pattern ini susah banget dibaca)
06:00:715 (1) - rasanya ini seperti notes yg ada di 06:00:556 - (06:00:556 - ane harap kau nambah circle/slider disini, disana itu jelas bgt strong beat)
06:01:271 (1) - delete notes better playback 25% ada suara kok disini, malah kalo dibuat triplet doang nanggung ><

mungkin itu aja yg bisa ane bilang. semoga dapat membantu

goodluck!

1. 00:25:795 (4,5) - this short spacing is hard to play
2. 00:34:684 (5,6) - I prefer to avoid stack pattern in the same way as others
3. 00:40:240 (1,2,3,4) - 1/3 is necessary? no problem to 1/4 sliders, imo
4. 00:58:494 (4,5,6) - round rightward a little for good flow like 00:57:224 (1,2,3) - ?
5. 01:14:525 (1,2) - I prefer to overlap more for good looking
6. 02:04:367 (3,4) - how about exchanging their positions?
7. 02:11:192- whistle
8. 02:15:001- ^
9. 02:16:113 (1,2) - ^
10. 02:31:192 (5,6) - hard to find rhythm, imo. I suggest to start at white line about 1/1 slider
11. 02:32:144 (1,2) - ^
12. 02:48:573- I prefer to follow it and make triplet
13. 03:52:938 (1,2,3) - hard to see. I suggest not to stack correctly
14. 04:07:541- whistle
15. 04:51:033 (1,2,3) - I prefer to avoid setting in the same straight line as 04:50:795 (1,2,3) - like 04:42:779 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -

RandomEffect wrote:

hi, 10nya~hiya randoo o3o

[Tentative]

1. 00:25:795 (4,5) - this short spacing is hard to play
2. 00:34:684 (5,6) - I prefer to avoid stack pattern in the same way as others
3. 00:40:240 (1,2,3,4) - 1/3 is necessary? no problem to 1/4 sliders, imo
4. 00:58:494 (4,5,6) - round rightward a little for good flow like 00:57:224 (1,2,3) - ?
5. 01:14:525 (1,2) - I prefer to overlap more for good looking prefer current, doesnt affect anything too :3
6. 02:04:367 (3,4) - how about exchanging their positions?
7. 02:11:192- whistle
8. 02:15:001- ^
9. 02:16:113 (1,2) - ^ too loud imo
10. 02:31:192 (5,6) - hard to find rhythm, imo. I suggest to start at white line about 1/1 slider keep current, it'll be a bit weird if i make 1/1 sliders, in fact this part fit for 1/2 circles xD
11. 02:32:144 (1,2) - ^ ^
12. 02:48:573- I prefer to follow it and make triplet
13. 03:52:938 (1,2,3) - hard to see. I suggest not to stack correctly
14. 04:07:541- whistle
15. 04:51:033 (1,2,3) - I prefer to avoid setting in the same straight line as 04:50:795 (1,2,3) - like 04:42:779 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -

oh, another ver. XD
so cool!
~Good Luck~

smallboat wrote:

Almost finish check,will post in tonight (I will edit this post)

Hello :3
Good mapper nya
Looks like good set,just some suggestion ~ hello smallboat :3

[Tentative]

1. 00:20:382 (7) - Although this slider pattern shape looks okay imo,but I don't know QAT how to think this,also can ask it :3
2. 01:39:588 (3,4) - For reference : rhythm use ctrl+g? Because the playing heavy beat you place the slider end,seems not play so cool feeling imo.
3. 01:46:890 (5,6,1) - Sounds like this music not fit place so small distance,suggest enlarge a bit ?
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4. 01:48:636 (5) - Don't make 01:48:318 (4,5,1) - the same pattern interspace here,it will misunderstanding by QAT viewpoint. Example :
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5. 01:54:667 (4) - The blueline has no sound here,actually the slider end heavy sound at 01:54:826 here?
6. 01:57:366 (1) - Forgot cancel NC? Looks no special so hard to read or music here.
7. 02:24:826 (1) - Also can add a whistle?
8. 02:56:096 (1) - This distance also can change a bit (1/2 distance seems have a bit close,move to (498|218)) :
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9. 03:20:858 (3) - Maybe can make the slider end stack at (6)?
10. 03:54:429 (3) - Remove this note will played better,sounds like the sound not so obviously imo
11. 04:11:334 (4,5,6) - Well,this pattern have (almost) the same dq issue in at HW's map "ESTi - HELIX (EX) diff" in here :
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    and
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    (Proof : https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4179519)
12. 04:39:032 (2,4,6,8,10) - There is no blue tick sound,don't place rhythm here (Obviously too,I think it is overmap imo)
13. 04:50:222 (1,2) - This 1/8 snap
14. 05:12:286 (2) - Forgot add a note here?
15. 05:19:588 (5) - Open 25%,it sounds like 1/6.
16. 05:21:493 (1) - Same above (Suggest check another to fix if I didn't comment (Just like 05:27:842 (4) - and 05:36:731 (1) - etc.))

Momochikun wrote:

dear 10nya.. sup' ? sup

After some discussion with captin1 over the map, we get conclusion that this map need to be polished a bit before get approved to correct some timing problem, here's what i got :

[Tentative]
00:00:541 (1) - slider started late and offbeat, this should be placed 1/16 later ( 00:00:561 - )
00:20:858 (1,2) - start them 1/16 later ( 00:20:878 - ) , same issues at 01:06:572 (1,2) - 00:41:175 (2,3,4,5) - 01:47:207 (1,2) -
01:00:540 (1) - i'm a bit worried about the readability of this slider, try moving the first red node a bit up or something ?
01:49:588 (4) - rhythm 1/4 nya rada susah kebaca walau ud ada colorhax, ctrl g ?
03:01:493 (6,1,2) - triplet ini nggak fit, dan rasanya aneh.. mending 1/2 pattern biasa saja, sama kayak 04:33:953 (4) -
03:10:143 (4) - seret ke 03:10:170 -

02:10:382 - the timeline here is bugged , it say 3/4 on the metronome but the timeline itself still on 4/4 metronome. Please fix since it could affect the whole map, could be done by removing it and replacing the greenline with the new time signature wait jd metronomenya ttp 3/4 apa gimana ini

The following triplets need to be changed to 1/6 pattern as they're offbeat : 02:25:620 (1,2,3) - 02:27:524 (1,2,3) - 02:33:239 (1,2,3) - 02:35:143 (1,2,3) - 02:40:858 (1,2,3) - 02:42:762 (1,2,3) - 02:44:667 (1,2,3) - 02:48:477 (1,2,3) - 02:50:381 (1,2,3) - 04:51:016 (1,2,3) - 04:52:920 (1,2,3) - 04:58:635 (1,2,3) - 05:00:540 (1,2,3) - 05:02:445 (1,2,3) - 05:06:255 (1) - 05:08:159 (1) - 05:13:874 (1,2,3) - 05:29:112 (1,2,3) -
please double check all the timeline above as we may wrong or missed something, confirm it with your ear :3

untuk yg bagian ini 04:45:301 (1,2,3) - dst instrumen nya aslinya jg ada yg 1/6 tapi di tick biru juga ada suara.. jadi mau 1/6 pattern atau di keep 1/4 triplet masih fine imo

As for the safe way, i'd advise you to find some timing experts to take a look at the snapping. captin1 should come here later to correct mine or pointing other errors. until then good luck :3

Xinely wrote:

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1. 00:10:700 (3) - ini cymbalnya 00:11:017 - kan keras beb, coba di map http://puu.sh/i98VN.jpg terus di stanzanya di buat jump gitu biar lebih kerasa remapped
2. 00:17:366 (5) - rotate 20 derajat beb biar simetris sama next note, jadi flownya ikut nyambung hmm disini pgnnya dari straight sliders terus ke agak melengkung (kea yg ini) terus yg melengkung bgt kea yg (6), keep current deh ;;
3. 00:19:747 (3) - 316,260? kan sebelum2nya kek pattern relax, kalo tiba2 1/2 jumpnya agak jauh gitu kerasa rada agak aneh menurutku beb oki
4. 00:20:382 (7) - mundurin ke 00:20:461 - terus lanjutin stream 00:20:382 - add note? soalnya kerasa aneh ada 1 stream yg kelewat gitu omg baru sadar, added
5. 00:26:255 (1) - somehow kerasa aneh kalo jump pake spacing kecil, dan ini emang intentional krn flow shape nya.. yaa cuma bilang =v=
6. 00:41:195 (2,3,4,5) - tbh ini ambigu snappingnya, gw dengernya di 1/8 mulai 00:41:215 - , kalo ambigu ini mending gw saranin bikin spin aja mulai dari 00:40:858 - disini gw ngikutin apalah suara yg di 00:41:195 -
7. 00:51:334 (2) - kerasa aneh jg karena jump gede di slider ini tp next slider lebih kecil padahal ada cymbalnya mnurut gw 1,2,1 udah jump semua kok ._. keep current deh
8. 00:56:731 (2) - anti jumpnya sengaja? ini cymbal keras jadi harusnya ngejump sih imo, 00:56:731 (2) - coba 216,352? e disitu triplet lho
9. 01:13:874 (1) - kalo circle sih gw ga terlalu nyaranin buat pke anti jump kek slider sebelumnya, mending disamain kek 01:16:413 (1) - biar konsisten jg keep current deh, tbh gw seneng disini ;w;
10. 01:19:271 (8) - jump gedenya gw kerasa kurang srek juga sih, coba 216,56? wanjer ke (1)-nya jauh amat, gw pindah ke 256 152 ajha yha _:'3
11. 01:23:715 (7) - 128,136 biar konsisten spacingnya, kalo fix, 01:24:509 (10) - ini juga ya okidoki
12. 01:44:509 (2,3,4) - somehow gw ga bisa dapet ini kenapa spacing gede disaat musiknya ga keras remapped
13. 01:51:493 (6) - nazi banget tp buat aja 1,0x spacing biar konsisten lol okidoki
14. 02:37:683 (3,4) - gw lebih saranin stack, somehow gw tadi missread lol e--emang sengaja ;-;
15. 04:11:493 (5) - wait i cant find the snap here o-o pas gw denger ke 25% ini 1/4 bisa juga sih _:'3 ga ganti jadi 1/4 slider stream
16. 03:36:889 (3) - menurut gw sih flownya kerasa forced disini. kalo gw sih mungkin move ke 140,184 03:37:048 (4) - terus ctrl+g oki
17. 03:42:762 (4) - lupa nc beb?
18. 03:53:239 (4) - nc?
19. 04:08:477 (1) - whistle? ^^^ all oke
20. 04:19:588 (3) - gimana kalo di jadiin 1/2 terus add circle di 04:19:826 - biar emphasize drumnya sip
21. 04:36:096 (6) - jauh lebih enak jadiin 1/2 soalnya drum di redticknya bener2 keras, aneh kalo di skip imo
22. 04:43:397 (1,2,3) - should be 1/6 like 02:10:382 (1) -
23. 04:45:301 (1,2,3) - 04:47:206 (1,2,3) - ^ udah dibicarain sama mochi jg, disini ada suara di blue tick jadi 1/4 juga gapapa tbh
24. 05:49:270 (1,2) - sorry kalo gw salah tp harusnya 1/8 kan?
25. 05:53:080 (1,2) - ^
26. 06:00:699 (1,2) - ^ di 25% playback ini 1/6 kok :3

poke me again after you got confirm for those fark snaps

wendao wrote:

00:00:561 (1,2) - 00:20:878 (1,2,3) - 00:40:858 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:06:592 (1,2) - better ask Charles445 for expert timing stuff :< yeah kk
00:00:859 - 4/4 metronome ok
00:19:906 - unused timing point ^
01:22:763 (3,4,5) - tricky tho not tricky enough imo
01:48:636 (1) - kinda ugly tho ;-;
01:49:905 (1) - intentional combo colour setting? fixed
02:06:413 (4) - 1/16 fit here agree tho
03:06:334 - soft sampleset
03:16:969 - ^
03:26:572 (1) - misread as 3/4 instead of 1/1
04:58:636 - unused timing point sv changes here
04:58:794 - unsnapped (must be 1/6)
05:46:255 - unused timing point

pishifat wrote:

might wanna do something about slidertick hitsounds with this in mind: p/4185785

your map would probably get destroyed since it's the exact same thing as that one





and all the 2ms unsnaps

wendao wrote:

uh... move to pending?

Aleycks wrote:

Hey ! Just some very quick feedback because this map is worth it.

02:29:429 (1,2) - patterns like these are incorrect, I don't think there's any 1/6 here and it feels very odd to play. I think it's 1/4 honestly. Please consider changing that

Charles445 wrote:

Since the sample is delayed you're moving things forward 1/16, which is really weird to play and causes problems in other places (like 03:41:512 - where white and red ticks have prominent beats)
It'd be a better idea to simply ignore the shortcomings of the sample and map intuitively, since the intuitive beat is what the player is going to play anyway, considering they are a mere 20 ms different.

The first slider is good because there is no audio before objects, it's a free 4 notes to establish the BPM and offset.

1/16 repeats are risky if the BPM is high and in this case it causes the repeat to be 20 ms long, which causes easy unfair breaks.


blah blah blah changes that can be made postbubble, so change once you find a BN

Mako Sakata wrote:

Regarding to http://puu.sh/k7owp/dfc215f720.png and http://puu.sh/k7oAG/e64e38d1a8.png there's unsnapped note around 00:35:460 - 00:36:730 -

Sebenernya pas aku periksa secara manual masih banyak yg ga snapped, tapi bedanya cuma selisih 1ms aja kaya di atas. Coba tenya periksa ulang deh siapa tau aku salah

1. 00:59:906 (1,2,3,4,1) - the 1/4 slider jump of 1 and 2 is a bit over imo, and the flow of 01:00:224 (3,4,1) - gives me a bad feedback on gameplay, maybe let the 01:00:541 (1) - begins from left to right works better
2. 02:06:414 (4) - 1/6 snapping, wtf 1/16 is? lol
3. 02:31:175 (5,6,1,2) - well these sliders ends at downbeat make me feel really^n weird when playing, cant even catch the rhythm
4. 02:38:953 (4) - nc?
5. 04:40:540 (1) - it's not a necessary nc imo
6. 05:23:397 (1,2,3) - 1/6, you'd better map it as the similar parts in your map

HelloSCV wrote:

take these and good luck lol

Gloria Guard wrote:

頑張れ ~~~~~~~ :3

Nwolf wrote:

it doesn't change anything but having 04:58:635 - this as a 4/4 section makes me cry, it's 3/4. I wonder how that doesn't disturb while mapping lol

Sonnyc wrote:

Random bubble check.

01:00:541 (1) - The path feels quite abnormal compared to the song since it makes a partial burai overlap. changed otherway
01:06:255 (1,1,2) - I personally feel this has potential readability issue. I recommend increasing the slider velocity multiplier of 01:06:255 (1) to at least 0.8x to make the slider tick of 3/4 slider visible. okay
02:00:224 (1) - Purple in a row in combo color? Check if this is not a mistake. whoops
02:06:414 (4) - Snap should be 1/8, or at least consistent with the counterpart which is 03:25:461 (8) imo. http://puu.sh/o1wQ0/7b6361048a.png some opinions from other bns fyi. it was actually around 1/16 lmao but fixed on 1/8 anyways
05:31:122 (2,3) - More spacing here for a better reading. oki
06:01:175 - Mind reducing the reverse of (2), and adding a note here to make a 5 note stream? That way would be better for players to catch the rhythm imo. fixed otherway~

Nwolf wrote:

it doesn't change anything but having 04:58:635 - this as a 4/4 section makes me cry, it's 3/4. I wonder how that doesn't disturb while mapping lol

Yeah, let's also make 04:58:636 - a 3/4 metronome. okay

popping for that snapping issue, and the time signature issu, but anyways Yuki's bubble should've been #1 since it seems there were other snapping issues back then too lol
Cool map.

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wendao wrote:

>svdx

sdvx boz

Aleycks wrote:

I've already mentionned this here but I see that this is almost getting ranked so allow me to remind you of my opinion...
For the love of peppy, I SWEAR you should change these 02:35:143 (1,2) - it just doesn't make any sense rythmically, you're having a clickable object on a PURPLE tick here ! There are several of these throughout the map, if I were you I would just turn them into a single reverse sliders like you already did for previous patterns.

pls, DO IT. T-T

Okorin wrote:

the fuck is going on here (or more like not going on here lmao)

do you need another icon or is someone already checking this. I'd give this a try after looking through it

Cherry Blossom wrote:

There is a lot of things to improve, don't qualify before I edit this post within 24 hours. (i can bubble pop but for now i don't do anything)

1. 00:34:985 (7,1,2) - this looks a little uncomfortable to play, and not natural. It would look more natural to play if the spacing between 7.1.2 were constant and in a straight line. The little angle between these objects makes them unnecessarily more difficult to aim.
2. 01:20:224 (4,1,2) - It could be better if you tidy the spacing here because it looks a little clunky, even if it changes nothing concerning gameplay, but at least do it for the sake of visual.
3. 02:01:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I don't really know your intention by making the distance between 02:01:652 (1,2) - and 02:02:446 (4,5) - inconsistent, visually it looks weird and it doesn't really give a good impression, and i see many more things like this in this map.
4. 02:53:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Visually this can be immproved, you can make a better shape for this stream, and it will also look more comfortable to play a stream with better shapes, make something better which looks like this :
   
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5. 03:52:128 (5,6) - There should be more distance between them if you want to emphasize 03:52:286 (6) - , the long distance between 03:51:810 (3,4) - makes the low distance 03:52:128 (5,6) - really easier in comparison, but may be surprising too because the distance is low, and the player might hit the circle too early.
6. 04:25:620 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This stream is mapped to nothing, there's nothing clearly audible on blue ticks and it really looks weird that you put a stream when the song doesn't really call for it.
7. 05:37:048 (2,3,4,5,6) - Here too, this little shape can be improved to give a better impression visually.
   
   
   NCs are questionable too like 05:24:350 (1,1) - , i don't really see why you add a new NC here, you should avoid some NC spam, it's unnecessary because the map is dense and the HP setting is low for a difficulty like this. Reconsider the way you NC this map.

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Awh well, i just get back to modding, things may not be that accurate.

1. 00:34:985 (7,1,2) - this looks a little uncomfortable to play, and not natural. It would look more natural to play if the spacing between 7.1.2 were constant and in a straight line. The little angle between these objects makes them unnecessarily more difficult to aim. slightly unoticed to me but thanks for pointing ;;
2. 01:20:224 (4,1,2) - It could be better if you tidy the spacing here because it looks a little clunky, even if it changes nothing concerning gameplay, but at least do it for the sake of visual. agreed, fixed to 1,3x
3. 02:01:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I don't really know your intention by making the distance between 02:01:652 (1,2) - and 02:02:446 (4,5) - inconsistent, visually it looks weird and it doesn't really give a good impression, and i see many more things like this in this map. fixed
4. 02:53:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Visually this can be immproved, you can make a better shape for this stream, and it will also look more comfortable to play a stream with better shapes, make something better which looks like this : fixed
   
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5. 03:52:128 (5,6) - There should be more distance between them if you want to emphasize 03:52:286 (6) - , the long distance between 03:51:810 (3,4) - makes the low distance 03:52:128 (5,6) - really easier in comparison, but may be surprising too because the distance is low, and the player might hit the circle too early. made 5 a bit far now
6. 04:25:620 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This stream is mapped to nothing, there's nothing clearly audible on blue ticks and it really looks weird that you put a stream when the song doesn't really call for it. changed into 1/2s
7. 05:37:048 (2,3,4,5,6) - Here too, this little shape can be improved to give a better impression visually. changed the ds, hope its fixed now
   
   
   NCs are questionable too like 05:24:350 (1,1) - , i don't really see why you add a new NC here, you should avoid some NC spam, it's unnecessary because the map is dense and the HP setting is low for a difficulty like this. Reconsider the way you NC this map. fixed yea actually i was nc'd this for hp restoring orz

wendao wrote:

no kd lol

00:05:938 (4,1) - swap NC
00:21:176 (3,1) - ^
00:28:954 (2,5) - avoid overlap (?)
00:58:478 (4) - NC to make the combo only 3 notes is somehow bad for me, i'll keep mine
01:00:541 (1) - nazi
01:51:176 (5,1) - swap NC
01:56:573 (5) - NC
01:58:636 (1,2) - swap NC
02:42:128 (1,1) - avoid overlap nothing wrong with this overlap imo
02:44:032 (1,1) - ?? (overlap) sengaja gk ditempat yg sama orz
02:45:620 (1,1,1) - ??? ^ ^
02:45:620 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - any reason to not put red combocolor?
03:19:905 (4) - NC keep mine for the consistency
04:41:810 - honestly I don't think this Timing Point is necessary, because there's strong beat on 04:42:762 -
04:58:636 - Timing Point because there's 1 ms difference, rly color=#BF00FF]metronome changed, about timing i already asked some bns/staff so there's should nothing wrong with it[/color]

10nya wrote:

might Okorin post some issues too?

updated

10nya wrote:

wendao wrote:

00:58:478 (4) - NC to make the combo only 3 notes is somehow bad for me, i'll keep mine well make sense, just point it because of 00:56:573 (1,1) -
04:41:810 - honestly I don't think this Timing Point is necessary, because there's strong beat on 04:42:762 - this is somehow important, but it's fine to skip this one
04:58:636 - Timing Point because there's 1 ms difference, rly metronome changed, about timing i already asked some bns/staff so there's should nothing wrong with it are you sure there's change of metronome? for the timing itself, it's just weird (for me at least) that someone can hear 1 ms differences

metronome

MisterDinner wrote:

hey, thats pretty good.
Im a noob but ill mod the best i can

mod

00:03:081 (3,3) - the way the ends of these dont point directly at the next note, bleh it stands out for me
00:17:684 (2) - ^
00:45:303 (4) - ^ no problem here imo
01:20:700 (1) - ^
02:46:889 (1) - ^ also make the elbow appear earlier to make better use of momentum
03:17:524 (3) - ^ *another elbow timing complaint*
03:37:048 (4) - ^ you can keep the elbow just point the start at the next note, youll have to change the position of this 03:38:001 (1) - as well which will put it in the direct path of the previous note

00:25:144 (2) - maybe this could be pointed directly away from the previous note for flow reasons
01:25:144 (3) - ^ could be wrapped around the next slider
03:15:620 (3) - ^ make it curve away from the previous slider itll flow better
03:20:858 (3) - ^
03:35:143 (5) - ^

01:29:906 (2,3) - these stand out, it doesnt seem right to have the ends snapped to orchestral hits it's full of 1/1 notes so making slider would be better to follow
01:34:985 (2,3) - ^
01:40:065 (2,3) - ^

01:09:430 (1,2,3,4) - for me it doesnt look nice to have sliders touching eachother in that way, Kappa idk i like these xD
00:49:112 (1) - ^

01:14:192 (3,4,1) - make this straight it looks ugly well i prefer my own atm ><
02:28:794 (3,4,5) - ^

02:46:572 (1) - the second segment should be horizontal to the slider above it
04:49:428 (1) - ^

04:20:858 (5) - ew, make it bend around the previous note more

05:34:985 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - make this perfectly round
05:58:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - ^
06:01:175 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ this should bend around the note before it

Those 2 spinners at the end are un needed, the map already has almost 6 minutes of play time so you can use it as a result screen outro bit to end the map at first spinner is somehow 'hanging' the song tbh

Its a nice map, just a bunch of flow problems

10nya wrote:

just realized it went to graveyard gg

1. 00:05:938 (1,2) - i don't see what's different here from the previous measures, why suddenly twice as many circles ah no wait i see it, but that way
2. 00:15:462 (3) - makes less sense as it's the same thing
3. 00:14:192 (2,1) - this comes out of nowhere and doesn't really do anything it's not indicated or anything so idk i can't make sense of as to why you do that
4. 00:24:668 (4,1,2) - thiss doesn't make sense with the way you did rhythm before (00:22:287 (5) - 00:23:557 (5) - ) besides 00:25:144 (2) - isn't really helping achieve anything
5. 00:26:255 (1) - might want to have this stand out through either breaking flow or spacing
6. 00:28:636 (5,1,2) - crtl+g ing rhythm here would make way more sense with what the song does and what your map usually does for this
7. 00:32:446 (6,1,2) - similar thing, just not with the reverse
   at this pint imma just say this applies to most of the intro lol
8. 00:33:239 (3,4) - 00:35:779 (3,4) - song is constantly picking up pace in this part but you alternate between sliders and not sliders
9. 00:41:176 (2,3,4,5,1) - the cutoff from stream to slider doesn't look very neat mostly due to the sliders shape not complimenting anything the stream did
10. 00:56:890 (4) - would make more sense as just circles i think
11. 01:00:541 (1) - should not go back over itself (which it kinda does now)
12. 01:20:065 (3,4) - would be more expected to be stacked
13. 01:20:700 (1,2) - doing something like https://puu.sh/sMpt5/59c24ed929.png would make way more sense with what's happening in the song and what's happened in the map so far, alternatively you should maybe also reconsider ending 01:20:224 (4) - in the same sound you had clicked at 01:18:001 (4) -
14. 01:22:287 (2) - same
15. 01:24:033 - 01:24:351 - not clicking these goes against everything you established with 01:08:795 (1,2) - 01:11:335 (1,2) - 01:13:874 (1,2,3,4) -
16. 01:16:414 (1,2,3,4) -
17. 01:25:938 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - music isn't suggesting groups of 3, it's doing three groups of two instead so emphasis should be on each white tick ideally
18. 01:29:906 (2,3) - not too much a fan of these for known reasons
19. 01:42:446 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - represent the song much better, the rest of this section kinda doesn't do that though
20. 01:48:319 (4) - 01:49:589 (4) - i don't hear anything that would suggest anything being held, playing these in this part kinda doesn't fit anything
21. 02:33:239 (1,2) - playing these or any others of this is kinda uncomfortable because the way you simplified them they play like an 1/3 pattern with a weird cutoff at the end
22. 02:45:620 - extends seem kinda unnecessary for this but i guess that's preference
23. 03:08:477 (5,6) - doesn't really reflect what's happening music wise
24. 03:22:762 (1,2,3,4) - 03:23:715 (6,7) - should be way more similar since they represent the same
25. 03:51:810 (3) - music doesn't suggest this, kinda overmappwed for no reason
26. 03:53:080 (3) - could leave 1/4 delay between sliders like this if they're followed by objects, would make interpreting them less mean for players
27. 03:56:096 - would prefer clicking this as it's quite essential to the song but not represented in the map
28. 04:31:334 (6,1,2) - 04:34:032 (1,2) - 04:35:620 (4) - why do you suddenly switch to red ticks nothing really suggests this ;_;

Xinely wrote:

entah dah brp lama ini map sampe udah ga ada di osu gw lagi

Okorin wrote:

yeah only took like half a year <3

[general]
combo 1 is much darker than the rest making it harder to read over this dark bg and complete black, would suggest making it brighter works okidoki

[map]

1. 00:05:938 (1,2) - i don't see what's different here from the previous measures, why suddenly twice as many circles ah no wait i see it, but that way i feel like want to emphasize the Bell(??) sound so i put circles there
2. 00:15:462 (3) - makes less sense as it's the same thing
3. 00:14:192 (2,1) - this comes out of nowhere and doesn't really do anything it's not indicated or anything so idk i can't make sense of as to why you do that fixd
4. 00:24:668 (4,1,2) - thiss doesn't make sense with the way you did rhythm before (00:22:287 (5) - 00:23:557 (5) - ) besides 00:25:144 (2) - isn't really helping achieve anything
5. 00:26:255 (1) - might want to have this stand out through either breaking flow or spacing
6. 00:28:636 (5,1,2) - crtl+g ing rhythm here would make way more sense with what the song does and what your map usually does for this
7. 00:32:446 (6,1,2) - similar thing, just not with the reverse
   at this pint imma just say this applies to most of the intro lol
8. 00:33:239 (3,4) - 00:35:779 (3,4) - song is constantly picking up pace in this part but you alternate between sliders and not sliders
9. 00:41:176 (2,3,4,5,1) - the cutoff from stream to slider doesn't look very neat mostly due to the sliders shape not complimenting anything the stream did
10. 00:56:890 (4) - would make more sense as just circles i think
11. 01:00:541 (1) - should not go back over itself (which it kinda does now)
12. 01:20:065 (3,4) - would be more expected to be stacked
13. 01:20:700 (1,2) - doing something like https://puu.sh/sMpt5/59c24ed929.png would make way more sense with what's happening in the song and what's happened in the map so far, alternatively you should maybe also reconsider ending 01:20:224 (4) - in the same sound you had clicked at 01:18:001 (4) -
14. 01:22:287 (2) - same
15. 01:24:033 - 01:24:351 - not clicking these goes against everything you established with 01:08:795 (1,2) - 01:11:335 (1,2) - 01:13:874 (1,2,3,4) -
16. 01:16:414 (1,2,3,4) -
17. 01:25:938 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - music isn't suggesting groups of 3, it's doing three groups of two instead so emphasis should be on each white tick ideally
18. 01:29:906 (2,3) - not too much a fan of these for known reasons
19. 01:42:446 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - represent the song much better, the rest of this section kinda doesn't do that though
20. 01:48:319 (4) - 01:49:589 (4) - i don't hear anything that would suggest anything being held, playing these in this part kinda doesn't fit anything
21. 02:33:239 (1,2) - playing these or any others of this is kinda uncomfortable because the way you simplified them they play like an 1/3 pattern with a weird cutoff at the end
22. 02:45:620 - extends seem kinda unnecessary for this but i guess that's preference
23. 03:08:477 (5,6) - doesn't really reflect what's happening music wise
24. 03:22:762 (1,2,3,4) - 03:23:715 (6,7) - should be way more similar since they represent the same
25. 03:51:810 (3) - music doesn't suggest this, kinda overmappwed for no reason
26. 03:53:080 (3) - could leave 1/4 delay between sliders like this if they're followed by objects, would make interpreting them less mean for players
27. 03:56:096 - would prefer clicking this as it's quite essential to the song but not represented in the map
28. 04:31:334 (6,1,2) - 04:34:032 (1,2) - 04:35:620 (4) - why do you suddenly switch to red ticks nothing really suggests this ;_;

most of the problems i have with this are things that just dont really represent what the song is putting emphasis on through rhythm, my willingness to push this further basically depends on how you go about addressing the fundamental things (read as rhythm things i pointed out and generalised)
a few parts of this work pretty well so i'd hope to push this