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Sukima Switch - Golden Time Lover (TV Size)

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Derekku
The new video is much better, but the new mp3 sounds barely (if at all) better than the last one. I've searched for about 15 minutes on google and can't find a better quality mp3, so I can't really help anymore from here. I guess for now just put the old mp3 back so that the timing isn't completely screwed up.

I'm terribly sorry that I couldn't help. x_x (I'm sure that someone else will be able to help, though)

Also, I noticed that you have a spinner-circle in the folder, but spinner-metre and spinner-background are missing. Please add those and full submit.

orz
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Lol it's harder than it looks, right?
KIA
hmmm.. Fix all related to new mp3 and video (offset, video offset, timing sections offset, resnap notes...)
Set custom circle colors.
Add more skin elements.. (especially hitcircleoverlay and spinner pictures)
Here is my try D:

Download: Sukima Switch - Golden Time Lover (TV Size) (Death_the_kid) [KIA's Insane].osu
wmfchris
[insane]
*Some snapping problem occured.
*Some clap sound doesn't fit the lyrics?
0:09:940 (3,4,5) Up 1 grid such that (2,3,4) can be on the same level?
0:49:780 (4) Spacing? Can be a bit up.
1:07:660 (2) remove clap?
1:07:780 (3) clap?
1:10:420 (2) Suggestion: (2,4) whistle, (5) remove clap?
1:12:100 (2,3,4) Similar to 1:07:660

[hard]
0:10:180 (4) Take the slope between (3) and (5)?
Good.

[Normal]
Good!

[Easy]
Some sliders does a bigger jump with the previous note. Try to avioud that in easy.

Star~
KIA
rawr ;_;

Download: 01 Golden Time Lover.mp3
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
You got the full version there ^
edit: A clip from the full version
Cheery
^__^

advice on irc~
Derekku
irc modding along with...

[General]
*Again, you're missing spinner-background and spinner-metre in the song folder.
00:57:290 - start kiai here on the big white tick.
End kiai either 1/4th before the new section or in another reasonable place. Right now I see it ending in different places in different diffs and in the middle of spinners. It should be consistent and make sense.
01:12:650 - start kiai here
Again, end in a sensible and consistent place.
*Video fades out before the mp3 ends, but meh.. its offset is good and the vid has nice quality. :U

[Easy]
00:16:010 (5,6,1) - spacing
00:26:330 - All beats from here on out are behind by 1/2. Select them along the timeline to move them all back at once. (At least, I THINK most of them are. Some seem to be on purpose, so please replay through it all and change it to your liking.)
01:07:370 (1) - ends on an awkward note, try ending it on 01:10:490 instead.

[Crimmi's Normal]
*Get rid of the extra inherited section.

[Hard]
*A bit spammy with whistles and claps, but otherwise fine.

[Insane]
*Looks good.

[KIA's Insane]
*Looks fine but...
00:46:610 (1,2) - spacing
01:28:850 (9) - I'd def. end this with a finish instead of a clap. The way the mp3 cuts out is weird enough without ending on an awkward/stale hitsound. :(
Vergence
Sakura
Red = Major issue, you should fix this
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion

[General]
The mp3 ends abruptly couldnt you have done a fade-out cut instead?
Delete .osb file and full submit
The mp3 feels low quality
Considering it repeats itself along all difficulties i must mention Kiai should start on: 00:57:290 and 01:12:650

[Easy]
00:26:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2) - the fact that all theese notes end up on red ticks cant be a good thing... after checking it again, i think maybe the should be on the white ticks ahead (they look half a beat early)
00:57:290 Kiai time should begin here... as well as the notes, they all feel offbeat
01:12:650 ^

[Crimmi's Normal]
Why the heck are 2 red timing sections at the start?
Same comments for kiai than [Easy]
00:38:090 (1,2,5) - 1 grid down

[Hard]
Same kiai comments than on [Easy]
No breaks?

[Insane]
Same comments for kiai than on [Easy]
I guess no breaks can pass on insane

[KIA's Insane]
Same comments for kiai than on [Easy]

This has too many issues to earn my star yet, give me a forum PM for a remod when they are fixed
Lizbeth
spinner is so uncomfortable >< Can you add center or something?

Insane
00:15:530 (3,4) - separate a bit... keep consistency in distance..
00:16:730 (5) - and this one is too far
00:35:450 (4,1,2) - i can notice you didn't use distance snap in some parts (is cool but keep consistency).. these 3 should be farther from each other. Same with the two combos after this. Distance between circle is smaller compared to rest of the map, this is not good ><
00:51:050 (4,5,6) - these are to close together. (should be at the same distance as 00:50:330 (1,2)
Same with the combo that comes after this...
01:26:810 (4,5,6,1) - same problem, are too close together.

Hard
ok

Crimmi's Normal
Can you decrease overall diff a bit?

Easy
00:26:330 to 01:20:090 - Keep it on White ticks<<<

KIA's Insane
01:17:450 (4) - unpredictable anti-jump, add new combo or stack it >.<
Rest of the map plays fine with me =D

have a star!
DJPop
Offset: 1,320

- Music is too soft and the ending is poor D:

~Easy~
00:30:360 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - move 1/2 left
00:44:280 (1) - end on right white tick

~Crimmi's Normal~
00:45:480 (7) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)

~Hard~
Timing is weird, check again.

~Insane~
00:15:720 (4) - should be symmetry
00:22:920 (5,6) - stack the ending
00:57:000 (1) - add hitfinish only first note
01:00:840 (1,2) - stack the ending

~KIA's Insane~
00:15:240 (7) - add clap
01:02:760 (7) - new combo


+Star
Sakura
Red = Major issue, you should fix this
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion


[Easy]
00:13:080 (1) - Ends on blue tick? wth? Oo
00:51:480 (1) - Awkward Spinner
01:07:080 (1) - ^

[Crimmi's Normal]
01:25:800 (1) - Awkward Spinner

[Hard]
Looks fine

[Insane]
Looks fine

[KIA's insane]
Looks fine

After issues are fixed or justified, please forum PM me for a remod
Sakura
The spinner: 01:07:320 (1) on [Easy] is still awkward, doesnt seem to be following something that leads me to think a spinner is necessary, try instead putting some notes in this section.

Fix and i'll star

Edit: Star'd
KIA
I'm here again. Hi!
1310 offset is better IMO :<
USE custom circle colors, pleeeeeeaaaase. Standart colors sucks...
[General]
Try to ramap hitsounds on your diffs.
[Insane]
Claps placement look very randomly.
[Hard]
00:57:710 (4) - remove whistle from start and ann to slider end
00:58:670 (7) - remove whistle
00:58:910 (1) - add whislte
01:00:590 (1) - remove whistle from slider start.
[Crimmi's]
whistles a bit werd but anyway ok
[Easy]
ok
ah... sry, have no time to continue
Mok
Updated Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
If I found a beat who must be added, i'll write it.
Remember to check spacing after all modfies :3

[General]
MP3 is too weak, make it louder.
Tags: I don't think Edward Alphonse Elric FMA could be useful like tags, delete them D:
There's two red! Change the second red or cutomize colours D:

[Easy]
01:09:960 - Delete this break time and add a slider.

[Crimmi's Normal]
00:38:760 (3,4,5) - Flip horizontally.
01:27:480 (5) - Symmetrize it.

[Hard]
00:25:320 (2,3,4,5) - They're awful! try to change them with a 1/4 slider D:

[Insane]
Ok.

[KIA's Insane]
Ok.
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun

tmokb93 wrote:

[General]
MP3 is too weak, make it louder.
How exactly do I do that?
YGOkid8

Death_the_kid wrote:

How exactly do I do that?
edit it with a program, or ask someone else (that can) to do it.
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Can you?
YGOkid8
can't, I'm capped D:

2 people I know who can do these stuff are:
Ephemeral, and Matma Rex.
try asking them

EDIT: If you can get Ephemeral to, tell him to deny kudosu! for the post you gave me kudosu! for. There was nothing constructive in it that improved this map :P

EDIT: Don't kudosu! this as well
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Thanks
Btw I really didn't mean to give you kudosu!
Matma Rex
Louder mp3: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/22212755/Opening_3.mp3

Make sure the offset didn't change, modyfying mp3s sometimes causes that.



By the way, Easy has a lot of ugly sliders (not perfectly horizontal/vertical, for example 00:44:040 (1). Fix them all please D:). I didn't look at other diffs.
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Thanks a millions
The new mp3 is a beauty
Nakagawa-Kanon
[Easy]
00:19:080 (6) - spacing check

umm.... It seems to Normal......

[Normal]
01:14:280 (4) - add new combo

[Hard]
01:02:040 (1) - remove new combo

[Insane]
01:26:880 (5,6) - it's too insane!!

[KIA's Insane]
01:06:360 (1) - remove new combo
01:07:320 (3) - add new combo


good map!
+star~
fartownik
Random mod.

The mp3 ends so suddenly. Can't you edit it by adding the fade effect or find better mp3?

[Easy]

00:16:680 (1,2) - Inconsistent spacing. Please space it it with 0,7x Distance Spacing value.
00:52:200 (2) - Sounds far better placed the repeat at [00:53:160] and the end of the slider at [00:54:120].

[Crimmi]

[00:34:440] - [00:39:720] - Strange spacing change. I prefer spacing it with 0,9x Distance Spacing, like previous notes (or space previous notes with 1,1x spacing). The same thing here: [01:25:800].

[Hard]

01:27:480 (3) - The end of this slider sounds weird (considering the sudden, not faded end of the mp3 too). Please expand it to the next white tick (01:28:680).

[Insane]

The same issue as in Hard's.

[KIA]

It's okay.

+star
AdRon Zh3Ro
Here the right post :P

Moded and nothing found.
Beuchi
Hi hi!! :)

Here are some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me :P

Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- The mp3 you have ends really suddenly, and it sounds ugly, could you fade it?
- Delete the .osb file and do a Full Submit next time you update the map.
- I recommend to add "fma" to tags, I think people would rather write "fma" than "full metal alchemist" xP

~Easy~
- Decrease Overall Difficulty, please.
- The slider speed is IMO a bit faster...

00:28:680 (4) - Fix Spacing.
00:50:280 (2) - ^
01:14:280 (4) - ^
01:17:160 (2) - ^
01:18:120 (1) - ^

~Crimmi's Normal~
- Well... Having those long chains of sliders and circles this diff looks more like a Hard (actually this appears as H on web)... :/ Maybe making those chains shorter and having some more blank spaces will help =x

00:37:080 (8) - Fix Spacing.
01:15:000 (4,5) - Looks ugly, maybe do something like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723
01:25:800 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix spacing.

~Hard~
01:10:680 (3) - Fix spacing.

~Insane~
00:15:720 (4,5) - Fix Spacing.
00:36:600 (4,5,6,7) - ^
00:51:000 (5,6) - ^
01:26:880 (5,6) - ^

~KIA's Insane~
No problems, good job! :3

Fun map, just some spacing inconsistences on some places but that's all. Good luck! :3 *star*
Sallad4ever
Well I've mod this long ago, and when I check again I don't any major issue, so it's better for you to find BAT to take a look at this :)
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
It's pretty hard
Ekaru
Had a little of IRC modding. Basically I had one of the combo colors changed to something that didn't blend in with the BG.

Good job, star!
TheVileOne
Hey! I checked your maps. Not a lot to say.

Real minor issue but 01:22:560 (2,3) - could be moved one unit down in Insane.

Star
minyeob
1. Add spinner approaching circle
2. I suggest deleting osb. file

Map looks fine, I guess
You can reconnect me ^^
ouranhshc
i didn't find anything
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
X_x BATs are so hard to find.
minyeob
Your fixed map is fine but

I forgot to redownload.......

Umm Did you do full submit?
There's still osb file, and there's no spinner approach circle, either.
Would you remind re full submitting?

And==================================
Well really sorry for saying this but accroding to rule,
More than 2 Insane(I)s can't be ranked.
But I won't force you to remove one.

Do you think is Hard HARD but not INSANE?
:D
YGOkid8

minyeob wrote:

Well really sorry for saying this but accroding to rule,
More than 2 Insane(I)s can't be ranked.
I wouldn't say that's true, it's if there aren't enough [I]> diffs to balance it out...

eg. [E][N][I][I] would be rankable, but not [E][H][I][I]

...just keep that in mind ;)
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Cool, so I make my normal easier, then I'm good
Edit: x_X harder than I thought, I'm gonna need some AID
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
I was told by others that [E] [H] [I] [I] [I]
is quite alright
YGOkid8

Death_the_kid wrote:

I was told by others that [E] [H] [I] [I] [I]
is quite alright
really? I'm a bit skeptical about it :|
MaxwellDemon
[Easy]

What a strange hitsound placement... but it is okay considering Easy's beat placement. XD

00:47:880 (1) - I can kinda see what you are doing with Easy (easiest way of mapping easy is to map beat by beat...)... but this slider simply doesn't fit. I think it has to be mapped to the singing... so, move this slider 1/2 forward, repeat one less and then map an additional beat 00:49:320
01:06:120 (3) - Funny slider XD

[Normal]

Technically, nothing wrong... but I find the beat placement a little repetitive (especially for the verse), which, I supposed, is an expected thing considering the nature of the song. Or maybe it is just because I know I wouldn't have mapped the song like that. XD XD

[Hard]

... I think I still find the hitsounds designed haphazardly. Like, why are there so many strange whistles? :(
This song is suitable for whistles, but I think that is too many whistles in one go. XD

00:04:920 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - Considering how many beats you have later on in the song, I really won't used that many beats just for the opening sequence. It sets up for repetitiveness to the player (e.g what, this again?).
01:27:480 (3) - Don't really agree with the slowdown slider either. :/

[Insane]

For the intro of the song, same thing as hard. You are using the same mapping techniques for two very different part of the songs.
Same problems with hitsounds, too many whistles in strange places, I think. XD XD
Also, still don't find myself agreeing with the final slowdown slider. :P

[KIA's Insane]

Well... hahaha, yeah, I don't actually find any problems here in particular, I think. XD XD

Strange spinner circle... can't you find something that covers the entire circle?

ztrot's Link has a completely mapped spinner circle (a good one, unlike the one from my skin, hahaha), so maybe you can ask for his permission to use it? In addition to that, why don't you skin the slider ball as well? You already got a slider follow circle for it.

Anyway, as your first map, it's good. But you can definitely do a lot of improvement. Right now, your mapping style seems to be consisting of mapping every single possible beat in the song (1/2 beats in hard, full beats in easy). Throw some variation in the mix. There is a lot of things going on in this song, but you don't necessarily have to map every single thing. If you want to figure out something "nice" from this song, KIA's difficulty is a nice way to learn a few things from (hitsound patterns, variations, streams, non-linear design, etc.). Don't feel discouraged though! If you have any questions regarding my mod, you are always free to ask me any questions online and I'd be happy to try to explain and help you through my critique. XD

Oh yeah, in regards to the difficulty spread... I personally don't really mind since there IS a normal... but that normal could definitely be toned down if possible.

As an encouragement, here is a BAT star. :P
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